There Oughta Be a Law!

Imagine you’re job hunting and you come across the following job requirement in the job listing:

Applicant must be at least 35 years old and a natural born citizen of the United States having resided here at least 14 years

That’s it. Nothing else. 

Now look at the following job qualification:

Applicant must be at least 8 feet tall and be able to understand what the “top” of something is. He must also be familiar with Christmas trees and ornaments. Applicant must be able to take instruction

The second reasonably detailed qualification applies to the Abominable Snow Monster from the holiday special, Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer. 

The first job qualification is for the leader of the free world, able to launch enough nuclear missiles to destroy the planet. 

I have to think the founders had such profound faith in the American people that they wanted the presidency open to just about everyone. Of course, in the 1780’s “everyone” was white men but I digress. 

The notion of a President “of the people” is quite seductive. Andrew Jackson sold himself on this premise. However Old Hickory had been a Senator and Governor. 

It is simply amazing that despite this skimpy job qualification statement from Article II of the constitution, all we have gotten so far for Presidents have been folks with a military or government service record, without exception. Folks like Herman Cain or H. Ross Perot tried to break the pattern but failed. The pattern has remained undisturbed … until now. 

I think it’s time Article II was amended. I can’t say that military or government service, per se, should be a requirement but some evidence of past civic duty should be in there somewhere. Donald Trump, unique among the 44 men who have held this office (remember Grover served two non-consecutive terms) has no history of civic duty. This does not make him a bad man but it does raise the question of whether he really understands how to serve others in a selfless fashion. 

The daunting truth is that Donald Trump is no more qualified to be President than you or I. He is a successful businessman with no real interest in government except when it serves as an opportunity for self-aggrandizement. His ride to the White House was fueled on the catharsis he provided to millions of disaffected Americans. But catharsis must be backed up by minimal qualification. I absolutely love driving my car but I have no business running a car company. 

Donald Trump is a mixture of Cliff Clavin from the sitcom Cheers (the pub know-it-all) and Archie Bunker, a man possibly very decent but severely limited by a world view shaped by stereotypes and checkout counter tabloids. I didn’t consider Bunker a racist. I considered him profoundly ignorant with a fear of the unfamiliar born of ignorance. I feel the same way about Trump. 

Someone with civic experience would never have leaped into the travel ban that Trump implemented. Cliff and Archie would. 

Age and citizenship are no longer sufficient qualifications for the Presidency. Not when the very existence of a nation (and even the world) is at stake. Until now, the common sense of the American people has relatively protected us. That barrier to calamity has disappeared. 

We have a man in the Oval Office no better prepared for the presidency than the Abominable Snow Monster. Article II is partly to blame and needs fixing in no short order. 

What do you think? The bar is open. 

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1,054 thoughts on “There Oughta Be a Law!

  1. Tiger nailed it. You leftist pussies keep getting away with violence. Over and over. Let me ask you R, how much is enough?

  2. Fuck off. Just read your cowardly tripe.

    Amend the Constitution so that the republic becomes even more oligarchical? WTF. That’s your knee jerk reaction…. You want more blood pulsing through Leviathan?

    Is your gut reaction ever NOT running to the teet for protection?

    You embarrass me that you call yourself an American. Fucking cuckold wants to amend the Constitution so that elite dominance is entrenched in stone. You deserve Civil War II. You really do.

  3. Trump IS oligarchy. WTF are you talking about? Do you know the net worth of his cabinet appointees? You’ve lost your mind.

    Rabbit, be 100% honest. Is Trump qualified to be POTUS?

    P.S. I don’t condone violence.

  4. Let the law be. We the People deserve what we get no matter how that sword swings.
    Rutherford you seem to be caught up in the notion that We look for something We quite simply don’t. We look for a leader. It is why Obama was such a disappointment and why W had moments of undeniable greatness. It is how a pompous fascist like FDR can exude determination and poise aka leadership and find himself surrounded by admirers. Leadership was present in JFK,Reagan and Truman too and they benefited greatly from emerging mediums. Our earlier POTUSs relied on their personal histories to tease out the belief they were leaders. All Trump did was dig into the psyche of the herd and present himself as the person who could lead them to tge green pastures.
    Americans don’t like technocrats. I would put it to the floor that our two most technocratic Presidents (imo Wilson &Hoover) bolstered their cause via pushing us to follow certain traits. Wilson framed things in a morality gig. We bought into his leadership even though it was actually an anti American agenda. Hoover was hobbled by government and the intellectual deficiencies of We. His greatest technocratic feats occurred befire and after his Presidency.
    Sorry to ramble. Go Pats!

  5. “P.S. I don’t condone violence”

    No, but you used to spend alot of time and energy condemning violence. It was fake, of course. But that didn’t stop the prose.

    Yoy don’t get it. I’m thrilled with Trump so far. This is exactly what I hope for. So, of course he is qualified.

  6. Your article is shit. Yeah…Refugees in the past weren’t terrorists. Some of them are now.

    There are Arab countries that agree with the temporary ban. Actually…. It’s not temporary for them. They say fuck that. Never. And those are Muslim countries.

    Look at Europe. How have refugees behaved in Europe? There is your case study. Not Hmong refugees from ’86.

  7. I’m not sure I follow your technocrat theme but the two presidents you cite do have something in common : minimal gov experience. Wilson NJ Governor and Hoover, commerce secretary.

  8. Alfie, yes I did. But it still is hard for me to account for Americans for two centuries having a basic consensus on proper prep for the presidency and then departing from that this time. I get your assertion that the common thread across our history is a search for a leader. But until now, it’s always been a little more than that.

  9. Rabbit, until someone says otherwise, I’m pretty sure you are the only one here who could have killed Trump in the political womb (the primary) and instead, gave him life.

    Therefore I fully expect you will be the last to face the disaster you may have wrought.

  10. My thesis is that We look for a leader not some well qualified executive of the Constitution an administrator .
    You know the slogan I like Ike? It had more to do with actually liking him than thinking a general becoming POTUS was a good idea. We were well off the “bloody rag (shirt) ” path by then.

  11. The problem with my thesis is I can’t pin down HOW Article II should be changed.

    Anyone with two eyes and two ears knows Trump is an anomaly but I don’t know how you weed him out. Until 2016, the American people weeded such a man out but something broke last year and I don’t know what the fix is.

  12. “Rabbit the study goes to 2015 and the numbers are compelling. Trump is hitting a fly with an anvil”

    The game changed after 2015, dummy.

    As for me refusing to hold Trump accountable….I’m not like you. I am not remotely emotionally vested in Trump like you were with your manboyhood hero. Hell…I’m a lot of things….. But I don’t think you can find a person on Earth that says Rabbit doesn’t own up to his mistakes.

    Lastly, I WANT some instability. I see us heading towards the ledge of a cliff. We desperately need to jar the left.

    If Trump is too much…And the left has a new found appreciation for things like checks and balances, states rights, limiting the Fed….Win.

    Why do you think I hate your post so much. It’s having the opposite effect on you. But than again…You’ve always been dependant on others…So I don’t think freedom is in your soul.

  13. And the left has a new found appreciation for things like checks and balances, states rights, limiting the Fed

    Oh yes, the left is getting a new found appreciation for checks and balances as the court tells Trump, “STOP IT, MAN!”

  14. “Oh yes, the left is getting a new found appreciation for checks and balances as the court tells Trump, “STOP IT, MAN!””

    Yes, that is absolutely right and it is what DR has always claimed was the most attractive prospect of a President Trump.

    Those same checks and balances were in play during the Obama administration. The courts overturned many Obama actions…MANY. And the legislature stopped many before it got to that. Prior to Nov. 4 you guys called it “obstruction”.

    It was “obstruction”…and now you guys know why it’s there.

  15. LOL. Yeah. What would Trump know about being an “executive.” Pffft.

    Time for a Constitutional Amendment.

    You’re ignorance is breathtaking.

  16. BiC, since you’re closer to the action, lemme axe you sumpin.’ How does a 9th district trial court, watching the flood of immigrants from the very injunction itself, find irreparable harm or a balancing of equities, regardless of whatever-da-fuck-manufactured-bullshit-rationale, for a TRO?

    I guess I shouldn’t pull a Rutherford and just go read the opinion. . .

    never mind.

  17. What would Trump know about being an “executive.”

    One of the dumbest things you’ve ever said here and that’s a tough record to break.

    News flash: the country is not a corporation.

  18. Rubart’s opinion is probably the most empty order I have ever read. And that’ saying a lot.

    What’s your analysis Rutherford? You’ve got a bead on what it takes from all of that MSNBC training you’ve spent a lifetime engaged in.

  19. Rubart’s opinion is probably the most empty order I have ever read. And that’ saying a lot.

    Well at least that means I might possibly understand it. 😀

    I’m like our president. I get my info from the TV. What I heard was that the judge found insufficient FACTS to say the ban was proportionate to the danger of not having it. Another way of saying hitting a fly with an anvil.

    But it should warm your heart to know, Tigre, that I also heard the higher up this goes, the MORE likely Trump is to be vindicated based on the fact the executive has great latitude when it comes to border protection.

  20. I don’t think any honest person can fail to draw a line of equivalency between Obama and Trump.

    Only after many drinks. Can we point to similarities? Sure. Both helped tremendously by the cult of personality. That’s the most obvious equivalency.

    But the simple fact is Obama’s failures were in spite of his preparation for the job not because of too little.

    LBJ built relationships in Congress that allowed him to effectively strong arm while POTUS. Obama expressly did not like building relationships. His time in the Senate (albeit short) familiarized him with how the game is played. He simply refused to play and that cost him.

    Everyone here can talk until they are blue in the face. Donald J. Trump has NO business running this country and I may indeed have to convert to Christianity because it will be by the grace of God that we get through this without substantial damage.

  21. “I’m like our president. I get my info from the TV. What I heard was that the judge found insufficient FACTS to say the ban was proportionate to the danger of not having it. Another way of saying hitting a fly with an anvil.”

    No it’s not. Sheesh.

    Now, it’s set out in the order. Which side carries the burden of proof when seeking a TRO?

    The so-called statement of “facts” in the order are entirely conclusory. They exclude all of the regular foundational findings, which is very odd given the gravity of this issue.

    What the judge found was a desire to reach an outcome without a real analysis.

  22. Donald J. Trump has NO business running this country and I may indeed have to convert to Christianity because it will be by the grace of God that we get through this without substantial damage.

    The bar is open? What do I think? I think this one ranks right up there with your blaming Sarah Palin’s crosshairs for the shooting of Giffords and would have eliminated about half our founders, many who were successful businessmen, from holding office.

    In short, I think you’re a dumb ass and weak hack. The man has been in office 15 days and you’ve already reverted back to We Are The World Obama healing, PotatoHead™.

    👀
    👃
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  23. “And that means … what?”

    The standards under Art II are reflective of the whole constitutional scheme. The omission of particular qualifications other than age and citizenship is deliberate, you ignorant mimbo. Welcome to it.

    I love when you try to sound authoritative because of some stupid MSNBC piece you watched.

  24. “But it should warm your heart to know, Tigre, that I also heard the higher up this goes, the MORE likely Trump is to be vindicated based on the fact the executive has great latitude when it comes to border protection.”

    p.s. this would eliminate one of the other elements for a TRO: probability of success on the merits. If the higher up it goes the more likely the EO will be upheld, the less justified the trial court in entering the TRO. Did your “source” mention that? I would think Mika has some heavy thoughts on this.

  25. I love when you try to sound authoritative because of some stupid MSNBC piece you watched.

    There you go again. Do you realize how dumb you look when that’s your constant go-to? It’s a month late for resolutions but resolve right now to find a new line of attack.

    Where did I say the omission was an oversight? What I SAID is that the American people have proven in the 21st century that it is insufficient.

  26. The source wasn’t Mika. I think it was an attorney but I don’t recall.

    Mika is a broken woman. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she quit broadcasting in the near future.

  27. “Where did I say the omission was an oversight? What I SAID is that the American people have proven in the 21st century that it is insufficient.”

    No they haven’t. MSNBC is saying that, so you’re saying that. Nobody’s “proven” any such requirement.

    R, everyone here has been around long enough to know “your source.” It’s particularly obvious MSNBC has some hold on you when you get all wee weed up, like now. This is the endless drone of “Trump is unqualified and illegitimate” that emanates from your liberal thought-box 24 hrs per day. My calling it out is not “a line of attack.” It’s observation. Your “source” is pretty conspicuous when you take on the air of an expert about things that you’re too lazy to even Google and investigate for yourself out of intellectual curiosity, which is pretty much everything.

  28. If Trump loses this, wouldn’t this be one of the most important State’s Rights wins in our life time. The precedent being a state could simply show an adverse effect from an EO and have standing to sue. Am I wrong?

  29. @ Rutherford ya just not getting it brother. Obama had no standing to be elected…NONE. His “standing” was as credible as Trumps. He was elected for the same reasons as Trump.
    For crying out loud you had college educated professionals in allegedly objective fields who actually used Messianic as an adjective for the guy. That does not speak to his qualifications,that was all the Hope & Change& Unicorns shit.

  30. @ DR I’m with you on this one and for my part I’ll go further. This country needs to end the 14th’s intrusion upon the laws of this country.
    This is what I meant in a prior thread about maybe I need to sue my state under the 14th. I also asked in the last thread what folks who trend “state’s rights” thought about that now.
    When one brings up the notion of addressing the misinterpretation and outright abuse of the 14th in either the bottom up or top down direction one gets looked at like you’re some kind of extremist. People like Frum are actually using that in framing how they believe the USA has become an illiberal democracy and is on the road to autocracy.
    If America is on the road to autocracy when it obeys it’s laws but not when the Executive was dictating them I think you can see exactly how fucked up the Left is.
    You say you want a revolution….well you know be careful what you wish for.

  31. It’s amazing to me that the actual decision by the judge is damn well hard to find. I’m googling it and it ain’t easy. USA Today waxes on about it but no link. Most MSM doesn’t link. Don’t get me wrong, I’m basically bitching that I couldn’t find it in 10 seconds.

  32. I was quite proud of that artwork, Rutherford. Hence the need for a trademark. Let’s not get snarky about my limited artistic abilities. Like Obama, my ego quite fragile, my abilities quite limited, my career as leader abysmal.

  33. Guys, it’s a federal district court ruling.

    I find most links at the Legal Insurrection blog.

    The opinion says nearly nothing from a legal standpoint.

  34. “The opinion says nearly nothing from a legal standpoint”

    Yeah…The opinion is pretty much a cease and desist.

  35. I compared the WA decision to the MA decision and was pleased to see my state,albeit at the federal level,doesn’t suck as bad as Washington. 🙂

  36. I don’t think the law should be changed. Our founding fathers knew the power of unassimilated mass migration and they wanted to preserve features of their new country.

  37. We have tried management of people trained in government, and it is time to see if another style works better.

    I argued against Trump at our caucus, and I wrote letters to the editor as I recommended someone like Rubio. In the end, I voted for Trump to avoid an even worse alternative.

    I am still unsure about Trump’s interrupting immigration from seven countries. It was mismanaged at first and gave the left heart wrenching stories of people unfairly detained. I agree about slowing immigration to be sure we know who is moving here, but what happens after the dead line?

    No one knows yet, but something like this issue could be the beginning of a stalemate similar to what destroyed Hitler and Napoleon on the Russian plains.

    So far, I have liked most of the outcome. He reminds me of another man who was as much a part of the political system as Trump was. Economic favoritism and mismanagement offended him, and personal ambition fueled his campaign.

    Alaric the Goth sacked Rome as Trump is sacking Washington DC.

  38. The New York Times says President Marcri has issued a decree limiting immigration to Argentina to stop crime and disorder. It will also be easier to deport people.

    The President says Argentina must care for itself. Argentines compare the decree with Trump’s with the same level of opposition and support as here.

    Maybe Trumpism will become a world-wide movement. Wouldn’t that be interesting?

  39. Bill Maher hates the NE Patriots…..another reason to root for them!
    Seriously though there are folks on the political left who are blasting the Patriots. They hate Brady over his hat,Belichick over his letter and Kraft because even though he is an Obama supporting Jewish Democrat Trump was a standup friend when his wife died. Ironically Kraft sat behind the Clintons at Trumps wedding.
    Anyway a bunch of rich fucks are going to have a game today. Enjoy it if you choose.

  40. I officially loathe the New England Patriots. Never have been a Tom Brady fan either.

    Until now.

    I want that PoS Roger Goodell, a SJW toad if there ever was, to hand the MVP to Tom Brady. And I would kiss the hand of Tom Brady if he wore a ‘Make America Great Again’ hate in the acceptance.

  41. After watching Face the Nation and Meet the Press, I gotta say I love Mike Pence. There needs to be some award invented for this guys attempts to carry Donald’s water. As Trump tweets, I picture him saying to himself “let’s see how Mike defends THIS.”

    LOL

  42. Nancy Pelosi’s daughter went on MSNBC and lied about Trump’s ban. This is the kind of thing that pisses me off. You cannot fight the opposition with lies. IT DOES NOT WORK!

  43. Your “source” is pretty conspicuous when you take on the air of an expert

    First of all, a very happy Super Bowl fuck you, Sir.

    Second, your insecurity is showing. I’ve claimed expertise on nothing.

    Third, we have a semi-successful businessman-reality TV star-attention whore as President. If you really think I need MSNBC to tell me that’s an anomaly, you Sir are a fucking idiot.

  44. That does not speak to his qualifications,that was all the Hope & Change& Unicorns shit.

    And what did I already tell you? They both benefited greatly from the cult of personality. You do a disservice to the discussion when you leave it at that.

  45. “Third, we have a semi-successful businessman-reality TV star-attention whore as President. If you really think I need MSNBC to tell me that’s an anomaly, you Sir are a fucking idiot.”

    Then I’m a fucking idiot. You seem to need it.

    Thanks for validating TLCT for me. You prove for me every day why the dems lost the election and are collapsing.

  46. “Second, your insecurity is showing. I’ve claimed expertise on nothing.”

    Oh, sorry. I should’ve said “strident proclamations.”

  47. “Tigre must openly root for Pats but secretly be mighty happy if the Falcons pull one off.”

    Tigre forgot his roots.

  48. p.s. claiming that Trump leads a cult of personality like Obama is more proof that you really, really don’t get it.

  49. But Tigre is donning his Gronkowski jersey and Pats cap. It seems to piss off the dumb libbies as much as a MAGA hat.

  50. “The revolution is in the streets.”

    Lol…Ooooooooh…..The violent pussies wearing masks and beating old men up in Trump hats after breaking windows. Do you know how many boxes of 7.62x39mm I have, bro? Just me?

  51. Maybe Trumpism will become a world-wide movement. Wouldn’t that be interesting?

    One could easily argue Trumpism didn’t start here in the first place. Nigel Farage in the U.K. and that lady in France whose name escapes me.

  52. And I would kiss the hand of Tom Brady if he wore a ‘Make America Great Again’ hate in the acceptance.

    Notice how “hate” didn’t get spellchecked? Coincidence, I think not. 😀

  53. You prove for me every day why the dems lost the election and are collapsing.

    I have a very clear idea why we lost the election and it wasn’t Comey and it wasn’t the Russians. It was a party that has become arrogant with a noted hostility toward the flyover states and white folks in general.

    You love to argue too much to remember I’ve said this more than once in the past.

  54. R you don’t get me at all 🙁
    The revolution is based in one either believing in pure states rights or federalism. We’ve mismanaged,misinterpreted and abused the original intent of the 14th to the point that it is not working.

  55. “You love to argue too much to remember I’ve said this more than once in the past.”

    Then you turn around and keep doing it. Imagine that.

  56. claiming that Trump leads a cult of personality like Obama is more proof that you really, really don’t get it.

    You are delusional beyond all belief. Even your BFF Tex said in the heat of the primary campaign that the ONE thing he disliked about Trump was the similarity to the Obama mystique. Another version of skittle shitting unicorns.

  57. “Words matter and on that accusation I plead guilty as charged. Expert, no.”

    Yet the source of both is precisely the same. Go ahead. . . guess which one.

    Fiscally? R, you’re not unlike others I know on the left. But you unquestionably have a cog missing or something when it comes to rudimentary economic concepts. Saying you’re “fiscally” anything is like me saying I am “sartorially” something. Unless yours is followed by “ignorant” and mine “slob” there’s no other descriptors to accurately complete the thought.

  58. Rutherford abandon the notion you’re anything but a fiscal liberal. Unless you’ve utterly abandonded the curmudgeon from VT you’re still a libbie in fiscal matters

  59. “An EO does not a revolution make. The revolution is in the streets.”

    The left is creating the narrative that can be used against it by some heavy duty shit. Stay with me here….

    We keep hearing about “anarchists” any time there is violence at a protest. Whenever stuff gets burned, broken, and/or beaten…”It wasn’t us, we’re peacefully protesting. It’s the Black Bloc.”

    And when all of this is going on, there are few if any arrests…..ever. The police forces in our cities and on our college campuses are clearly (we shall say for the sake of messaging) unable to adequately deal with this….this….what is it?

    I say we need to start calling it “terrorism”. On and on and on. Don’t blame it on the left…the loyal opposition exercising their god-given rights. Take the left at its word….it’s someone else. It’s the anarchists.

    What are anarchists? They are those who espouse to the absence of government. Since we currently have government, these anarchists are those who espouse the overthrow of our current system. And they are obviously willing to use political violence to do it.

    They threaten the safety of everyone around them…both right AND left. After all, the left is peacefully protesting based on constitutional rights. Rights that are supposed to be protected by the government. If there is no government, there is no protection of rights.

    Our streets are not safe from these terrorists. Our businesses and property are not safe from these terrorists. Even our schools are not safe from these terrorists. Look at what happened at Berkeley. The peaceful protesters were in just as much danger by those rockets and fires as anyone else. Maybe even more so.

    There is a mechanism within the law to address this….the National Guard. Trump needs to start threatening to use them. Not against Chicago gangs, but against anarchist terrorists spreading violence throughout the country.

    When the left starts shitting its pants over that threat, start pinning them down. Do you endorse the violence committed by these terrorists or do you endorse law, order, and government’s responsibility to assure both? Which is it? When they stutter and hedge, ask them what alternatives there are. They won’t have an answer because if they did, we’d have heard it when these anarchist terrorists were spreading violence during the Obama administration.

    They key, though, is taking time to foment the message. If Trump just suddenly starts tweeting about it, the plan is ruined. He needs to stop telegraphing every punch.

  60. “You are delusional beyond all belief.”

    Holy fuck. You really, really, really, really, really don’t get it.

    Trump is arrogant, narcissistic, thin-skinned and a lot of other Obama qualities. But the right does not come close to the cult of personality you still can’t let go of. Inauguration at the schools did not include the inauguration. Not permitted. It was “Falcons Appreciation Day.” When it was Obama? My kids were forced to write poems, and attend assemblies with requisite praise and chants.

  61. The revolution is based in one either believing in pure states rights or federalism.

    Then the premise of the revolution is flawed. I don’t see how it’s an either/or. We don’t have 50 countries. We have one. The trick is figuring out how much to leave up to the states. I don’t have a pat answer for that. I do know the COUNTRY needed to stand against slavery and the civil war was worth the effort to have a national stand on the matter.

    As others have suggested, maybe we are headed for CW II? The country, as a whole, has to stand for something.

  62. Then you turn around and keep doing it. Imagine that.

    You confuse why Trump is in the White House with whether he should be.

    You cut your finger slicing tomatoes. It hurts like hell. So you chop your hand off to stop the finger pain. We both know WHY you chopped your hand off. But should you have done that?

  63. Saying you’re “fiscally” anything is like me saying I am “sartorially” something. Unless yours is followed by “ignorant” and mine “slob” there’s no other descriptors to accurately complete the thought.

    LOL That made me laugh.

    Let me ‘splain. I’m for work-fare not welfare. I’m for just enough regulation to help businesses find their moral center. I’m for a simplified but still progressive tax code.

    I think that makes me fiscally centrist. Now am I claiming fiscal expertise such that I can have an in the weeds conversation about it. No.

  64. Damn those Freudians. I think I actually screwed that one up, Rutherford. My typing is for the birds. My typing on a phone is for the chit. I guess the new I-phone was a little too obvious, hey? LOL

    🏈🏈🏈

  65. I agree, Trump is almost unique. The other movements led by Le Pen and others in Europe differ from Trump but you are right, Rutherford. They began before Trump.

    Detractors of the Argentinian president charge he is copying Trump because of earlier business connections. Is there nowhere that Trump has not invested money? Greenland, maybe?

    I agree with Alfie. Alaric the Goth was not a true nationalist either. He also created unintended consequences. One was Rome’s withdrawing from Britain.

  66. Well for one thing I’m not 100% behind Bernie on min wage. A 50 year old grown ass man shouldn’t get the idea he can support a family of 4 saying “would you like fries with that?”

  67. Rutherford 631PM You sound more like a moderate Republican the way a Kentucky man told me I was more like a moderate Democrat than the Republicans in his neighborhood.

  68. Obama: America has not always been squeaky clean – right calls it apology tour.

    Trump: America has not always been squeaky clean – left calls it outrageous moral equivalency to Russia!!!

    Ain’t politics fun?

  69. “Alaric the Goth was not a true nationalist”

    He wasn’t one at all. Was there even a notion of such a thing in 430?

  70. P.S.S. I take that back. The half time was the absolute worst. I can’t believe I actually watched that POS. 😆 I just knew she was going to make an ass of herself, and all Gaga did was convince me today’s music sounds the same and sucks.

  71. If I allowed politics to influence my sports I would have stopped watching football before week 1.

    So I am enjoying watching the Patriots get their asses kicked.

  72. Good question, rabbit.

    It is more interesting to me than some others. A concept called Romanitas evolved in Rome. My history professors taught us that the Romans were the first to incorporate divergent people into one governmental unit to create loosely speaking a nation state. Romans made former alien barbarians citizens and required them to pay taxes and to defend the empire. In return, the empire built roads and other projects to transplant Roman culture on the provinces. They also encouraged the construction of schools. Romans let ethnically non-Romans progress economically and politically.

    Rome’s tendency to let subjects maintain their customs and economies to the point that some almost felt they were independent enhanced a sense of Roman identity and loyalty over time.

    As Rome evolved, soldiers tended to fight for the empire, not the emperor.
    After the Roman army retreated from Britain, those left behind maintained their Roman identity for many years. The legend of King Arthur may have been the history of a chiefton fighting a rear guard war against barbarians. Or not. Similar enclaves of Roman law and culture survived in France after the western empire fell.

    Tribal and personal loyalities often were stronger than nanscent patriotism, but the concept was growing much like an unborn baby in 476.

  73. The

    Germanic tribes borrowed
    Roman ideas and though they were considered barbarians in some ways, they were virtual Romans.

    The Huns drove some Goths to seek refuge in the eastern empire. Eventually, they became virtually autonomous with the obligation to defend Rome.

    Alaric, while ostensively
    Roman still identified with his Gothic tribe. He resented the governments’ imposing higher burdens on Goths to weaken their positions. Alaric was also angry because he was not promoted beyond commander.

    Roman type factionalism and tribalism still exists in large countries like ours. Now, we fight political and media battles instead of leading armies.

    Alaric was not especially loyal to the central government in 410 when he sacked Rome. Personal grudges and loyalty to his ethnic group ruled his political life. Trump is not very loyal to our current political organization. Half of the country wants him to drain the swamp as Alaric did. The comparison is very thin but something I noticed.

  74. Huck’s comment on liberal condemnation of anarchist activity (or lack thereof) is interesting. McKinley was killed by an anarchist and I wonder how turn of the century liberals reacted to it. Good term paper assignment from Huck.

  75. We didn’t watch the Super Bowel because of the political ads Rabbit mentioned and Lady Ga Ga’s likely preaching.

    No term paper because this is from memory. McKinley was a business oriented conservative or moderate. He was part of the
    Republican Old Guard who was comfortable for the people who profited from the Gilded Age.

    TR was a progressive who consorted with Booker T Washington. Many Republicans were happy that Roosevelt was safely constrained by the office he held.

    Anarchists who would be equivalent to Occupy Wall Street who are on the Democratic fringe now, were beyond the pale for many 1900 Democrats.

    Anarchists were arrested and mistreated after McKinley was shot, and others, including Democrats were also sanctioned, so they learned to keep still. For example, the congregation of one preacher tared and feathered him after he disparaged McKinley.
    Democrats also tended to keep quiet. Many Republicans were as frightened of the results as Democrats. A Republican power broker exclaimed, something like “Now we have that damned cowboy in the White House.”

  76. “Huck’s comment on liberal condemnation of anarchist activity (or lack thereof) is interesting.”

    That wasn’t really the point I was making.

    The point is…stop trying to connect the anarchists to the left and start saying the left needs protection from them.

  77. I had no idea how much I wanted the Pats to win.

    Goodall getting booed countered the preachy commercials. The boos were real. The ads were not.

  78. Suck it, Huck. Even Jesus would have to admit that Brady is the greatest man to walk the earth.

    You may return to whatever loser team you root for that didn’t go to the Superbowl. 😆

    Tomorrow’s gonna suck at work.

  79. Every morning, I look at my weather instruments after 6AM and file an on line report. When it snows, I measure in over 20 locations to find an average. If snow continues, I measure every hour or less and file special reports.

    I am also a trained storm spotter, and have sometimes been responsible for local severe or tornado warnings.

    When we are in Omaha, I use radar and other means to estimate what has happened. I also have a weather station with current information sent to my computer. I call people at home and when the sky is clear, I look at satalite pictures. My snowfall estimates are usually perfect. If I miss by .1 inch, I correct my report.

    The Weather Service has sent us letters of praise for our accurate records, sometimes made when I was in Omaha.

    I tell you this because I am enraged this morning. The Daily Mail reports how NOAH and others cooked the books to influence the 2015 climate conference.

    I know enough about climate and weather to know warmists are lying, but for the organization I ostensively work for as a volunteer to violate the rules it sets for us is a betrayal of truth and the scientific method.

    Thank God Trump and the Republicans won. I hope they clean the rat bastards out of the house.

  80. Every morning, I look at my weather instruments after 6AM and file an on line report.

    Every morning I look at my thermometer on the back patio and observe the trees and shrubs to know if there’s wind. I record the temperature. I look at the sky once the sun rises. I record any ‘persistent contrails’ in the sky with picture or video.

    Today we are totally overcast with what appear to be fake clouds. They don’t float or hold together like the real ones and always rain down a whitish ‘dust’ that visually obscures the mountain views that surround us. The weatherman calls it cloud cover, but they are not real clouds formed by actual moisture. The particles that cover ground, plants, and vehicles can sometimes be crusty and difficult to remove. Some people have tested the samples and lab reports show high levels of metals like barium and aluminum.

    The rise of dementia and alzheimer’s can be linked to these metals that are present in high percentages in our living spaces.

    The experts admit they do it, but claim it is designed to reduce global warming or study the jet stream. The climate change talk is all about deception and control. Many are sucked in believing we need to do something. The air force claims they will control the weather by 2025, but I think everything they do has uncontrollable consequences. It’s not nice to fool mother nature. .

  81. James,

    Of all the corrupt things the Dimocrats have latched onto, “AGW/Global Warming/Climate Change,” is the most utterly craven, IMO. It ranks right up there with access to unrestricted abortion.

    I have no idea if the earth is truly warming or not. What I do know is that these people have now been busted time and again for manipulating data, and using it to punish the rest of us.

  82. BiC, since you’re closer to the action, lemme axe you sumpin.’ How does a 9th district trial court, watching the flood of immigrants from the very injunction itself, find irreparable harm or a balancing of equities, regardless of whatever-da-fuck-manufactured-bullshit-rationale, for a TRO?

    Don’t get me started.

    First of all, I’m trying to figure out how my idiot AG, whom those of us in the know refer to as “Sideshow Bob” even established standing in this matter.

    When I heard his rationale, I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry, considering the state of Washington itself, through the auspices of out idiot governor, and the idiot mayor of Seattle, Mr. Excitement Ed Murray, has done far more concrete harms with obvious causality.

    Then when I was listening to Sideshow Bob’s comments after the hearing, blood wash shooting out of my eyes. It was “horrifying” for him to contemplate that the Executive could make such a determination on the basis of “national security”, as if there should somehow be a committee to make a determination and act when necessary.

    I’m quite confident that if we let some terrorists in through this avenue, because of issues with vetting, and they did what terrorists do, Sideshow Bob would be among the first to affix blame and outrage securely to Trump’s lapels.

  83. Tex…That is top tier bad ass shit. Dude fished out a 16 pound bass with his bare hands. I’ve seen “noodling” with cat fish…Never bass.

    Next challenge is to get him up here and try that with one of our Northern Pike!!

  84. As you can see from my dearth of comments, I’m late to the party, but I applaud your almost machine-like ability to look squarely at an issue, and completely miss the point, R.

    First, what Trump as a business executive, and many former military generals would share are the following: An ability to see the big picture, and chart a course from where they are at any given time, and the ultimate objective. An understanding of efficiency, and the cost of waste, not only to the ability to reach the objective, but to the morale of the average person paying the cost or following orders. An understanding that even if they do a fantastic job, their role is still a temporary one. A drive to succeed, because their opportunities and options are reflective of their performance. A desire to refine, rethink, and streamline processes and procedures. A review of different departments to see if they still meet their intended purpose, and to determine if they are still needed, even if they do, and if the cost is justified by the result. An understanding that no matter how much power they may wield, it is temporary, because ultimately, it doesn’t belong to them.

    Is ego part of the equation? Undeniably, but neither generals or executives could be successful without an abundance of confidence in their own abilities and leadership skill.

    I get your assertion that “OMG! TRUMP IS THE MOST UNQUALIFIED PRESIDENT EVER!!!11!!Elventy!!!ZOMG!!!”. When you understand as little as you have consistently demonstrated you do about the Constitution, it is easy to fall into the trap of thinking that government is so difficult and monumental that only those experienced in government should run it. It’s wrong, and would be repugnant to the Founders for a myriad of reasons, but I understand the mindset. I used to have it myself.

    However, Trump’s resume is much better than Obama’s ever was, and you may recall me saying many times over the last nine years that Obama’s resume wouldn’t have even been qualified for consideration if it weren’t for the fact that, a la Joe Paste Eater Biden, he was such a “clean and articulate negro”. It was paper thin, and had he been white he would have been laughed out of the room. A “community organizer” (aka not smart enough to make it in private practice, or too lazy to do the work [or in his case, both]), and a state senator who’s one shining accomplishment was to vote to deny palliative care to babies with the temerity to survive their mother’s attempts to kill them in the womb, and one term in the US Senate where he lacked the courage to even vote yes or no consistently, his favorite vote being “Present”. I guess he was just “bearing witness” to the activities of his colleagues.

    Whether you like Trump, or hate him, he couldn’t have had a career by voting “Present”. Much is said about him “squandering” the fortune his father left him. Being a businessman myself, I understand that risk is part of growth. Sometimes, it pays off, sometimes, it doesn’t. Unlike Obama, Trump has had to make a payroll. Unlike Obama, Trump understands that business is not simply a cash register till for government to reach into whenever it needs to pay for something. Unlike Obama, Trump understands that a tax on business isn’t really a tax on business, but ultimately, a tax on consumers, and employees. Unlike Obama, Trump has had to bear the weight of failures. Much is made of his bankruptcies. As a businessman, and attorney, I can tell you that bankruptcy in business is not always the sole fault of the business. Sometimes it is as much about what partners have done. About the failure of suppliers, and economic downturns in general. Which doesn’t matter to the Bankruptcy court, or the creditors. Ultimately, it’s Trump’s name on the petition. And it is ultimately Trump who has to deal with the consequences of that moving forward.

    Obama has never once had to really “work” for it. Own his decisions, take risks, or face consequences. He can fail, and break things, and walk away, while blaming others for his numerous failures and overreaches.

    I am confident that if for no other reason than the fact that Trump, a man of successes of failures in a career outside of government, chose to put his own life on hold, and take a cut in pay to do so, and then go back to his life when he is done, would be subject to the approval of the founders and framers both, who would be rightly horrified by the careerism that infects government like a malignant cancer, let alone a “School of Government” at a university that was one of the few in existence during their lifetimes.

  85. Rutherford, why do you have a croquet mallet as your visual on this post?

    LOL – supposed to be a clip-art version of a judge’s gavel. If you haven’t already noticed, I go real cheap on the graphics.

  86. BIC, you also described the average farmer.

    I agree, Tex. The world has been warming with interruptions since the Little Ice Age ended in the 1800’s. At its height Londoners held winter carnivals on the frozen Thames. Per Hansa’s Giants in the Earth describes a much colder Dakota frontier of the 1880’s than now. The sun spot vacation may have caused the chill, and another may be in our future.

    Europeans have more visible mutations than other races. They are the scars of extreme, rapid climate fluctuations of heat and cold ten or twenty thousand years ago. Blonde hair, blue eyes, and other physical features are testament to desperate competition for survival in hard times.

    The flood story may be a relic of even more rapid warming than anyone alive has ever seen.

    Such changes occurred long before industrialization could have altered the climate. I think the sun, volcanoes, ocean cycles and other factors influence our climate more than we do. Though people also affect change external factors are still more powerful.

  87. Seriously dude you all need to die,or move. Nonsensical whimpering about birth certificates and blow jobs didn’t prevent Cabinets and never shit on the LAW. So yeah round them up!

  88. I agree with Alfie. I’d like to do it, but I’m afraid I wouldn’t be able to stop. Yes, Rutherford and his family need to stay here.

    What about Lady GaGa? She knows people here and most like her. She nearly bought a house near Omaha six years ago. Lady GG will return around Valentine’s Day. Perhaps we can use her music to torture the older Democrats.

  89. Methinks Dennis Prager is in need of a psychiatrist.

    That’s got to be one of the biggest piles of paranoid bullshit I have read in some time.

    Let’s start with “liberal”. Is he talking the classical definition? His distinction between liberal and left seems concocted to me. Unless he is not talking the modern day meaning of liberal. No one who refers to a liberal nowadays is using the classical definition.

  90. Do you lack the IQ for basic comprehension? He simply gave a quick run down of what “liberalism” once was and what it is now. The “now” part, of course, being the crux of his essay.

  91. “smoking gun”

    Ha. Smoking gun. Trump is a rich business man.

    Don’t get me wrong, I like that you liberals are on him like flies on shit over this. But can we wait to impeach him when he does something corrupt? He can’t liquidate if he wanted to. Gave the business to his son to run. America elected him knowing the situation.

  92. He simply gave a quick run down of what “liberalism” once was and what it is now. The “now” part, of course, being the crux of his essay.

    No actually, you’re wrong. Read it again. He distinctly differentiates between the CURRENT liberal and the CURRENT leftist. He makes them two different things.

  93. America elected him knowing the situation.

    America was all out of fucks when they voted last year.

    Yes you’re right. Liquidation would have been near impossible based on preexisting partnerships, etc. Oh boo hoo 😩😩😩 That’s exactly why he should have been ineligible to run. Hence, the major premise of my piece.

    Hey hey.
    Ho ho.
    Article II has got to go!

    I think I’m gonna march! Or maybe scooter. 😀😀😀

  94. He distinctly differentiates between the CURRENT liberal and the CURRENT leftist. He makes them two different things.

    Yeah, Prager did that. And he also details what “liberal” once meant, dummy. You read it again. I swear, Rutherford. You must scan these links from your Evelyn Woodhead sped redin courese. You’re reading comprehension isn’t for chit.

  95. “next one is told he will not be addressing Parliament.”

    Are you sure that’s what he was told? Because the NYT reports:

    “Mr. Bercow said that an invitation to address Parliament was not up to him alone, although he added that he would be one of only a handful of people involved in asking a foreign leader to speak, either in Westminster Hall or in the Royal Gallery, another chamber of the Parliament building.”

    Not to mention…who gives a fuck? The guy talks to the entire world on Twitter.

    The UK is going to need all the trade partners it can get. When the rubber meets the road, they’ll come a’puckerin’

  96. “You’re reading comprehension isn’t for chit.”

    Because he reads things from his damn phone, probably devoting only the time required to taper one off.

  97. Your own link even says the guy doing all the talking is only 1 of 3 who can invite him to speak. Until we hear the other 2 chime in, this guy is making a bunch of self-aggrandizing noise undoubtedly meant only for domestic consumption.

  98. From the Prager piece:

    With the defeat of the left in the last presidential election, the defeat of the left in two-thirds of the gubernatorial elections and the defeat of the left in a majority of House and Senate elections, this is likely the last chance liberals, conservatives and the right have to defeat the American left. (Emphasis mine.)

    Let me repeat. He’s differentiating between CURRENT day liberals and CURRENT day leftists. If not, then this paragraph has liberals trying to defeat themselves which makes no sense.

    So I repeat: I find his characterization of liberal a concoction I don’t understand. I’ve heard folks talk about classic liberalism which is not what we call liberals today. Is that what he is getting at?

  99. And by the way…. He means the traditional liberal before the era of identity politics and environmental radicalism. The blue collar lib. He sets up that context throughout the essay.

  100. One can argue that the traditional liberal is now a Republican. The anarchist who was in vogue in 1900 is currently a Democrat.

    Betsy’s page chronicles the descent into degeneracy traveled by formerly liberal Democrats since the 1960’s. Her quotations also reveal the probably millions of deaths they have caused during that time.

    Now, the trash left by the pipeline demonstrators is becoming a potential health hazard. The government may have to help remove the rubbish and crap before the spring thaw. If it gets into the Missouri River, that stuff will move by one of our farms and into the city water of millions of down stream families.
    I remember the contrast between the left and Tea Party protesters who were non violent and cleaned up after ourselves. We are better than they are, and Rutherford by associating with us is also better than they are. We have helped him be a better man.

  101. Trump and some of his appointees may have such interlocking financial operations it is virtually impossible to untangle them, but what of Hillary?

  102. Sometimes, I still regret not spitting in Jane Fonda’s face when I met her.

    Our lawyer’s daughter has spent summers with relatives in Sami land. She has met Sophia Jannok and likes her.

    A video of the demonstration in North Dakota showed protesters joiking in a style of what could have been an Indian chant. The cultures are so similar that some northerners call themselves white American Indians.

    Had I been able, I would have been less forbearing than with Jane Fonda. I would have spit in Sofia’s face. I respect her accomplishments but this time, she was wrong.

    I would have been charged with assault and would have been punished more severely than leftist rioters who get off scot free.

  103. Liberalism — which was anti-left, pro-American and deeply committed to the Judeo-Christian foundations of America; and which regarded the melting pot as the American ideal, fought for free speech for its opponents, regarded Western civilization as the greatest moral and artistic human achievement and viewed the celebration of racial identity as racism — is now affirmed almost exclusively on the right and among a handful of people who don’t call themselves conservative.

  104. Now, the trash left by the pipeline demonstrators is becoming a potential health hazard.

    I don’t know where you get your news. Obviously it is meant to discredit the water protectors. The BIA has been helping cleanup the camp that froze over after the veterans were there in October. The ‘trash’ was all frozen under the snow and ice. That has thawed so that it can be cleaned. They have relocated the campsites and have been involved in the cleaning for 2 weeks. The tribes are doing the cleanup along with local help. The BIA brought in bobcats and trash bins for the job.

  105. Muffy, that video is a good one. Glad I had 7 minutes to watch. I’m surprised the Clinton News Network let him on. Don’t get me wrong, you ignore CNN at your own peril, but. . .

    notice the total lack of self-awareness of the CNN host? It’s Rutherford-grad “don’t get it.” And it is sooooo delicious.

  106. Poolman, our local station showed a video of trash stretching to the horizon. Loaders are dumping it into trucks, and the trash appears to be four to five feet deep.
    The Indian tribe and others say it will take weeks to clean. Once the ground thaws, heavy equipment will damage the soil. Locals may have to ask the Feds for help.

    Many were arrested for squatting on private land. Their disregard for others’ property matches the foreign, rotten ideology entertainers, news casters, and pundits espouse.
    . They don’t care about us or our nation’s welfare.

    Those so called water protectors occupy the same moral territory as Leonardo De Caprio who flies his private jet to and fro in the name of reducing CO2 production.
    They are leftist scum, despoilers of the very land and air they claim to protect.

  107. Glorious… A 50/50 split where Pence breaks the tie. The harpy choir should be in great voice tonight.

    Should be superb viewing on MSNBC to watch Chaz and Pajama Boy in sack cloth and ashes.

  108. Now, the trash left by the pipeline demonstrators is becoming a potential health hazard.

    If true, the irony is mind blowing. They protest to keep the environment clean and in so doing, they contaminate the environment.

  109. Trump and some of his appointees may have such interlocking financial operations it is virtually impossible to untangle them, but what of Hillary?

    I’m glad you asked that. I wonder just how many presidents have violated the emoluments clause, by strict interpretation, and gone unnoticed?

  110. Liberalism — which was anti-left, pro-American …

    Tex thanks for the quote. What liberalism is Prager talking about, especially when it comes to any elevation of Judeo/Christian or rejection of celebration of racial identity?

    WTF is he talking about? Liberals stand for equal rights. You can’t have a discussion of equal rights without “identity politics” playing a role. Someone’s rights have to be unequal to someone else before the conversation can begin.

  111. “I’m glad you asked that. I wonder just how many presidents have violated the emoluments clause, by strict interpretation, and gone unnoticed?”

    Isn’t this really just a by-product of modern globalism? If people are going to espouse a globalist ideology, they need to be ready to accept all that comes with it.

  112. I honestly appreciate the disgust over a number of the “alt” media entities but after listening to ten minutes of NPR I want to know why I should respect the “respectable ” media”

  113. Mmmm another constitution change needed? 🤔🤔🤔

    Maybe the real question is whether we’re talking about a lawful business arrangement, entered into before the office holder even ran for office, or if a transaction has some indicia of actual influence peddling, like payments to a “foundation” in exchange for access, or speech honoraria that make no sense, or maybe even YYYUUUGGGEEEE publishing advances for “memoirs” that say nothing and that can’t be given away for anything other than door stops.

  114. Rutherford, a North Dakota newspaper estimates at least 250 additional truck loads of refuse must be hauled away. Most has gone to the Bismark land fill so far.

    If the work continues after the ground thaws, compaction will be a problem as it probably has been for the camp sites.

    I am sure other presidents have had interlocking financial situations as you do, and if Trump was not president, the problem would be virtually unnoticed.

    I could choke on the irony.

  115. No changes are necessary. The only needed is for leftards to grow the fuck up!

    Alfie, I don’t recall. Are you an originalist like Scalia (and apparently Gorsuch)? If so, then constitutional verbiage that is outdated needs amendment.

    Otherwise, so called originalists need to shut the fuck up when we try to interpret the founders words through a modern lens.

  116. [Otherwise, so called originalists need to shut the fuck up when we try to interpret the founders words through a modern lens.]

    Like finding gay marriage in the 14th Amendment? The kind of modern lens that told us Barack Obama would begin to heal the planet and the Republican Party would go the way of the Whigs?

  117. I listened to a smidgen of the oral argument in today’s ban-of-the-ban appeal and what I found interesting was the whole question of whether Trump’s campaign statements were admissible as evidence of intent (i.e. Muslim ban or not).

    I can honestly say, not having any EXPERTISE (Tigre) that I could see it going either way. If protecting the country is the purview of the executive, should the judicial have the ability to interfere?

    Another good research assignment. Did FDR’s internment camps get judicial challenge?

  118. Like finding gay marriage in the 14th Amendment?

    Why don’t we stick to Huck’s scenario? We have an emoluments clause written at a time when complicated foreign entanglements were less common or likely. Now, it’s quite reasonable for any successful businessman to have foreign connections.

    So again, either we trust the courts to adapt the intent of the Fathers to our modern society OR we amend what they wrote to reflect current conditions.

  119. Yes I would consider myself an originalist. I would also say that I am the kind of originalist that accepts a natural evolution is inherent with the Constitution.
    For example although written to only bestow voting rights upon property owning white males it easily allowed for the evolution that Americans had that right. It wasn’t/isn’t perfect but it works very well.
    That said I am one of those freaks that would’ve preferred it never having been amended other than the the Bill of Rights aka 1-10. Once we stepped away from the Bill of Rights we allowed that inherent evolution to swing both ways and allowed the government to become stronger than the People. Example….you didn’t need 12-14 secondary to 9.

  120. No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

    What’s the beef????

  121. If protecting the country is the purview of the executive, should the judicial have the ability to interfere?

    The whole scenario is absurd from a legal standpoint, R.

    1.) The state of Washington should not even have standing to challenge.

    2.) Even if the state of Washington had standing to challenge, the burden of proof is on it as the party seeking a TRO. It didn’t meet that burden last week, it merely alleged a harm, and that is not enough.

    3.) Federal Statute explicitly gives the President the exact manner of the authority he invoked in the order, and for the very reason stated. 8 USC 1182 could not be more explicit. What’s more, that authority has been invoked before, to little or no objection.

    4.) The District Court judge was wrong last week when he asked and answered his own question last week about whether anyone from that list of countries had committed terrorist acts, the most recent example being the Somali “refugee” who went jihadi at Ohio State University late last year.

    5.) The judge also asked about knowledge of plots by people already here from those countries, or intending to come from those countries. The DOJ attorney couldn’t answer him, but if such plots have been discovered and foiled, the government wouldn’t talk about them (the Coventry conundrum), and if they could be compelled to do so, it would only be in front of a FISA court.

    All of that aside, ask yourself a very simple question.

    “If Trump received intelligence that suggested that refugees or migrants from those countries were involved in plots to come here and commit terrorist acts, and he did NOT exercise the authority to put a stay on travel into the country from that list, and some did come, and kill a number of Americans in one or more terrorist attacks, what do you think the headlines would read then?”

    Take this one step further.

    “Trump gets credible intelligence of such plots, and issues the Order, which is stayed while the judiciary reviews the order and hears arguments, then overturns the order, and terrorists get in, who is the legacy media going to blame?”

    If he’s going to bear the blame, he should at least get the deference to make the call…as Congress intended.

  122. The following is the conclusion from a Brookings report that is a partisan hit piece meets elitist douche bag factory meets (most importantly) “Oh no We the People might actually have to use our Constitution”

    Conclusion
    The Emoluments Clause, until recently not much discussed because its constraints have been taken for granted, constitutes a clear barrier to the intermingling of business and governmental interests that Donald J. Trump proposes to build into his conduct of the Presidency. That is a conclusion without partisan or ideological inflection; it would apply with equal force to any person or party occupying this position of public trust.
    It is plain that a President Trump would be subject to removal from office for the intentional abuse of power that this manifestly unconstitutional intermingling of private and public concerns would entail. When this guillotine might fall is a matter of political more than legal calculation, and is thus beyond the scope of our analysis. Likewise, just how the ongoing prospect of such an ignominious end to a Trump presidency would embolden his political adversaries at home and abroad, and undermine his legitimacy in the eyes of the American public and global community, is impossible to predict. So too, we cannot anticipate how the omnipresent prospect of such a disgraceful end would distort the dynamics of a President Trump’s ability to serve the domestic and national security interests of the nation. But that this looming constitutional shadow over his time in office would grievously dissolve the people of the United States is beyond doubt.

    Bottom line an amendment or new parts of speech are not necessary. Use the Constitution if/when Trump violates it. The clause is a warning not a barrier and fully affords itself to being validated and acted upon using another clause… Article II Section IV

  123. I would also say that I am the kind of originalist that accepts a natural evolution is inherent with the Constitution.

    The problem with that is finding agreement on what is a “natural evolution”, and what is more than that.

    For example although written to only bestow voting rights upon property owning white males it easily allowed for the evolution that Americans had that right. It wasn’t/isn’t perfect but it works very well.

    Except that it wasn’t a “natural evolution” The franchise was expanded first with the 15th Amendment, and then again with the 19th, then the 24th, and most recently with the 26th.

    And this Originalist says “As it should be.”

    The Constitution, as the bylaws of the nation, sets the expectations for how every citizen is entitled to live. It is designed to require a certain degree of difficulty to upend those expectations, as many people make decisions about how they will live their lives based on those expectations. Changing those expectations should not be able to be accomplished merely by vote of Congress, or by activist judges inventing new rights out of whole cloth or mystically divining them from penumbras and eminations of other rights recognized and guaranteed by those bylaws. If it makes a change to the fundamental assumptions that people have been guaranteed the right to make about how they can live their lives, then the process for doing so should be the one that affords the greatest amount of participation in that process, and a threshold higher than that of a statute, ordinance, or regulation.

    That isn’t to say that I can’t recognize an “evolution” argument. I take for granted that the first amendment freedom of the press should incorporate television broadcasts, and internet editions of newspapers. It is this same recognition that means that second amendment protections extend to semi-automatic pistols and rifles, even though the primary firearm of the day was a musket. It is why I can recognize that the fourth amendment protects the records on my computer just as it would a diary or an accounting ledger. Having said that, I don’t deny that I’m uncomfortable with the fact that these guarantees aren’t “updated” by the process provided for doing so, because accepting these leads to other, more tenuous, or even absurd variations, such as abortion not only being a matter for federal jurisdiction because the court said so, but it being an outgrowth of a general right of privacy in the 4th Amendment that had been inexplicably invisible to the Court prior to Griswold and then Roe.

  124. Interesting. I think evolution for me it is the People who evolve and not the law per se. I agree with your examples on the First and Second. I think We would’ve or should’ve gotten around to recognizing that slavery was peeordained to end. That a citizen is a citizen regardless of Peoples prejudices. We obviously had rhe mechanisms to levy taxes and who the fuck cares about the citizens of the District. This is why I find 12+ so maddening.

  125. What’s the beef????

    Believe it or not, that was my initial reaction. But I have to assume the legal scholars losing their shit see a problem with Bibi staying at the D.C. Trump hotel thereby profiting Trump. Such a profit is the textbook definition of an emolument. The only way to avoid this according to the folks losing their shit is for Trump to sell EVERYTHING and then put the proceeds in a blind trust.

    Again: research item – what did Obama do about the proceeds from his two books while in office? What did Kennedy do about the profits from Profiles in Courage, while in office?

  126. and terrorists get in, who is the legacy media going to blame?”

    Trump anticipated this in a recent tweet, saying that the judge should be blamed for any near term attack.

    I think the Fed statute you reference is circa 1952 and has conflicting court opinion since then so folks are whistling two different tunes depending on their predisposition.

    As for what intelligence Trump may have received, Trump has so badly damaged his credibility with outrageous stupid claims that many don’t believe his travel ban is based on anything factual. Another reason why he has NO BUSINESS in the White House. He’s fucking crazy.

  127. Use the Constitution if/when Trump violates it.

    I guess I missed the point of your Brookings excerpt. According to them, there is no “if”. He is already in violation and has the cloud of potential impeachment over his head.

    So I assume where you differ with Brookings is that you are saying “stop fretting over it. Let it play out and let the Constitution do its thang.”

  128. Having said that, I don’t deny that I’m uncomfortable …

    So in summary, you’re comfortable with an evolving constitution so long as it evolves in accordance with your preferences. Musket evolving to semi-no problem. Privacy extending to the most intimate aspect of a woman’s life – PROBLEM!!!

  129. I wouldn’t mind Trump coming out an edict that any judge overruling Security will be tried as an accomplice to terrorism should terrorism follow, and if found guilty, put before a firing squad should we find out the murderers are one of these refugees.

    I’ve had a belly full of these Leftist, activist (one and the same) Federal judges. It’s time to pay some of them a visit as well George Soros and his demon spawn to have a little discussion of the new rules. Time to roll out the Thug Obama Option to join the ‘Harry Reid’ option.

    Put the responsibility on these feckless judges and let them pray everyone of these refugees are flying straight for the remainder of their days. 😉

  130. Remember way back, like a few months ago, when Democrats insisted we are at an “OMFG WE MUST DO SOMETHINGS!!!!!!!!!” point on guns because of the continuously rising death rates?

    We kept saying they were talking shit. That violent crime and murders were actually down, and it was just that we’re hearing more about them. We cited FBI figures. We tried using logic. But it was fruitless. They simply wouldn’t be swayed.

    Who knew that all it would take was for President Donald Trump to make a single comment about the murder rates for the media to fact check it and the Rutherfords to declare it what we told them it was all along….”talking shit”.

    So from all of us to all of you Rutherfords…welcome to reality. We’re glad to have you…really we are.

  131. So in summary, you’re comfortable with an evolving constitution so long as it evolves in accordance with your preferences. Musket evolving to semi-no problem. Privacy extending to the most intimate aspect of a woman’s life – PROBLEM!!!

    In summary, you didn’t fucking read what I said. I can see an obvious extension. 1st covering a printing press, or a video camera, or computer. 4th covering the papers in my safe or the files on my laptop. 2nd covering a musket, or a 9mm, (although if I wanted to parse it, the extension on the 2nd would actually be easier to justify, based on the wording alone).

    But IF you were paying attention, you’d realize that I’m critical of the general “right to privacy” and how it has been recognized from Griswold (largely because I understand the history of the case, and because of this, I know it shouldn’t have been heard in the first place), and then the idea that this nebulous and derived “right” should somehow trump the 14th Amendment and the ideal set forth in the nation’s mission statement…again, not only because I understand legal philosophy, but because I’ve actually read the damn case, and understand that “The 14th Amendment doesn’t apply because we said it doesn’t apply.” is neither logical or suitable legal rationale. Blackmun would have failed Con Law at my school with that answer…as he should have.

  132. “Musket evolving to semi-no problem. Privacy extending to the most intimate aspect of a woman’s life – PROBLEM!!!”

    Privacy isn’t guaranteed by the constitution. Why do you think that is? I don’t know. But the Framers were very specific with words when they wanted to be. Instead, the right to privacy is only implied, which means even recognizing the concept, itself, is an evolution. An interpretation.

    And does it supersede the right to life, which IS explicitly stated in the constitution?

    If Trump gets to pick another judge and the Supremes end up tossing Roe v. Wade, it’s going to be almost funny to imagine the future history books. “The United States experienced two civil wars in a period of less than 200 years. One to free the slaves and the other to keep women from killing their unborn children.”

  133. As for what intelligence Trump may have received, Trump has so badly damaged his credibility with outrageous stupid claims that many don’t believe his travel ban is based on anything factual.

    R, when I refer to intelligence he may have received, I mean from our intelligence agencies. Unlike Obama, you’ll find intelligence briefings on the Trump’s schedule regularly. As for what is factual, when you demonstrate that you have a clue what I’m talking about when I say things like the “Coventry conundrum”, then I might think that something other than your Trump Derangement Syndrome might be driving statements like the one you made there.

  134. Remember way back, like a few months ago, when Democrats insisted we are at an “OMFG WE MUST DO SOMETHINGS!!!!!!!!!” point on guns because of the continuously rising death rates?

    Actually no. I don’t remember that. In fact, the liberal objection to gun proliferation was not based on rates but on the simple senselessness of the murders.

    No one said shit about rates when 20 innocent kids got killed in a school. We wanted mentally ill assholes to not get their hands on a gun.

    You may find the rate argument somewhere but you won’t find it from me.

  135. And further, Huck your endless quest to seek out lib hypocrisy wherever you might find it is going to cause you to miss the forest for the trees.

    Libs may have quoted death rates up the yin yang and it wouldn’t change the fact Trump is a loony tune.

  136. In summary, you didn’t fucking read what I said.

    So you’re saying your objection to Roe (and Griswold, which is new to me) is a cold analytical conclusion based on “the law” unaffected by your personal feelings?

    Well good for you!! 🙄

  137. Unlike Obama, you’ll find intelligence briefings on the Trump’s schedule regularly.

    Wow! Who’s your source for that doozie? Word has it (from the mans own mouth) that he don’t need no daily stinking briefing.

    When Trump says the intelligence agencies have briefed him, why should I believe it? He said his investigators found amazing things about Obama when they went to Hawaii. Bullshit then … bullshit now … or is it? THATS the problem. No credibility.

    BTW, I inferred what Coventry conundrum meant from the context of your comment. Because the POTUS is a pathological liar (Ted Cruz’s words, not mine) whether the Coventry conundrum applies is a conundrum indeed!

  138. So you’re saying your objection to Roe (and Griswold, which is new to me) is a cold analytical conclusion based on “the law” unaffected by your personal feelings?

    Anything but.

    More like “making shit up out of whole cloth”.

    Wow! Who’s your source for that doozie?

    You can actually find the POTUS schedule online. No shit, it’s for real.

    BTW, I inferred what Coventry conundrum meant from the context of your comment.

    Then you won’t mind explaining it to the class.

    Google. Oh the things you can learn.

  139. Then you won’t mind explaining it to the class.
    Google. Oh the things you can learn.

    Damn right there Sparky. If only to avoid the wrath of Tigre, I’d look it up before offering a definition. 😊

  140. Very very interesting. The general notion of the Coventry conundrum was a plot point in the film The Imitation Game where it was necessary for a German attack to be allowed to proceed lest the Germans discover Great Britain had broken the secret code of German messages.

    Imitation Game, great film, by the way. 😀

  141. “Libs may have quoted death rates up the yin yang and it wouldn’t change the fact Trump is a loony tune.”

    I’ve called out Trump when I feel it is warranted, and in 2 weeks it’s been about as much as you called out Obama in 8 years.

  142. “Word has it (from the mans own mouth) that he don’t need no daily stinking briefing.

    When Trump says the intelligence agencies have briefed him, why should I believe it? ”

    Translation: When trump says something that suits me I believe him and when he says something that doesn’t I don’t.

    Wow indeed

  143. Guys, you’re going to go around and around with Rutherford on Constitutional questions/limitation because he refuses to understand the difference between legislative policy, political agenda, separation of powers and federalism, and the limitations imposed (and indeed the purpose) of the constitution itself. You’re speaking two different languages. Rutherford is a cheerleader and anything advances the left’s agenda or impedes the right’s is what “the law” should be.

  144. Projection. We all do it. Trump’s a blunt tool, as his handlers claim.
    A bull in a china shop to the left and a pied piper to the right.
    He will lead us into war for Israel’s sake. The treaty with Iran is on the chopping block.
    Mystery Babylon is no longer a mystery. We’ll be tested by the fire.

  145. Dumbass is calling out private companies for making private company decisions on how to run their private company.

    Stupid. Run the fucking country and let Nordstom’s run its business how it wants.

  146. @ Huck you’re right on that one and proof someone needs to put a leash on him. Twitter is no longer his friend.
    On an apolitical note since some of you insert your meteorological happenings. 60 with a slight breeze absolutely unseasonably awesome. Tomorrow? 45 mph gusts 2-3 inches per hour of wet snow expected with totals rangung between 6-12″s 😱😱😱😱😱

  147. “Stupid. Run the fucking country and let Nordstom’s run its business how it wants.”

    What a dumb fuck, indeed. Oh no!…His snow flake got canned from peddling Daddies perfume. Let’s have the POTUS weigh in.

  148. When trump says something that suits me I believe him and when he says something that doesn’t I don’t.

    Ahhhh I see. So when he said that he only needed briefings if something has changed – doesn’t need them daily – he was lying then! Now the truth is he loves his daily briefing and reads it first thing every morning.

    Huck, when Trump said he didn’t need daily briefings, it didn’t “suit me”. I thought it was crazy shit coming from a crazy man. And at 70+, there is no cure for crazy.

  149. Of course Trump has as many good luck charms going for him as the NE Patriots did in the second half of SB51. He talking deep shit and what is the other side doing. Stalling and preventing the government to even try to function and getting smacked down for trying to enter into the Senate record hearsay garbage from a racist profiteering whore bag.
    #killalldems
    #letlizdie

  150. I stopped reading the Williamson article the minute he mentioned Sessions. You guys are idiots. His premise is totally off – Dem’s have been screaming about Sessions since the day he was nominated. ANY tamped down objections are likely due to him being a fellow Senator which leads me to my next comment.


    During the night long rant against Sessions yesterday (were you paying attention Kevin Williamson?) you boys got a wet dream delivered to your door step (or your night table, whatever) when Senator Lizzie Warren was rebuked for quoting Coretta Scott King in opposition to Sessions. In vernacular, it was a “bitch, shut up and sit down” moment. I could hear Tex moaning and groaning all the way from OK.


    Twitter is no longer his friend.

    Twitter was never his friend. And the leash should be a straight jacket.

  151. Trump probably will self destruct by 2018. President Pence paging President Pence.

    Smartest thing you’ve said in some time. The funny part for Dem’s is that Pence will probably bring all the odious aspects of Trump with one difference – government competence. The libs may be longing for the Trump days after the transition is over.

    Regardless, Trump will not finish his term. Resignation, impeachment or the unmentionable. But one of the three will happen with 95% certitude (h/t to the late great John McLaughlin).

  152. Are you out of your fucking mind?!

    Twitter was and continues to be his friend WITH HIS BASE. The rest of the world was either shocked by, or mocked, or ignored his tweets.

  153. Of course if private citizens want to counter the attacks other private citizens have engaged the scorecard looks a little something like this.

    Do Not Support:
    Apple*
    Amazon*
    TJX which includes: TJ Maxx,Homegoods,Marshalls and Bob’s
    Neman Marcus
    Nordstrom.
    Do Support:
    Vice
    Under Armour
    Carrier
    Ford

    *= Although I appreciate richie white c**ts who lean (D) can rain pain down on a number of retailers Apple and Amazon are a different matter. Both are hypocritical cocksuckers,and in the case of the Apple CEO that is meant both literally as well as figuratively. Both companies are incredibly racist in their dealings. Sure they’re rent visa supporters although they are more involved with India and Asia than the flood of tech geniuses flowing out of Syria,Somalia and Iraq but get them to hook up a brother. I can tell you in one case Amazon was shamed by others over Bezos racist same day delivery model. Both companies are disgracefully harsh on their host communities. They both strong arm with great capitalistic zeal when it comes to local ordinances and tax breaks. They also are quite brazen about disengaging from those communities when they ,along with Google,build their dream campuses. Apple actually proposed a private transit service for their “star ship” HQ. Both companies are actively engaged in deceptive practices and outright lying regards the new Administration.

  154. Assuming the Women’s Strike scheduled for later this month is what it implies – women not going to work that day – is that activity protected by any labor laws? What I’m getting at is, can these women’s employers fire them for not showing up to work due to a non-labor related protest?

  155. Smartest thing you’ve said in some time
    Fuck you I’m consistently raining truth and reality up in here and will not tolerate such insolence from someone who drives an EV 🙂

  156. I’ll leave deeper analysis to the lawyers but since I’ve been involved in HR and such I can tell you that if someone actually calls something a labor action and is not party of a CBA they don’t have any protections per se.
    I think most people will just tolerate and in most office settings this means no cat fights over the thermostat. Fucking hey that’s heaven baby!

  157. Hands down Sessions will be a superior AG and simply does not ,nor does the nation deserve the continued silliness from the democrats. At worst and mean at worst right down to where the rubber hits the road…. Sessions has been proven to be LESS OF A RACIST and far less race conscious than ERIC HOLDER. THAT’S JUST FACT.

  158. Twitter was and continues to be his friend WITH HIS BASE. The rest of the world was either shocked by, or mocked, or ignored his tweets.

    Which is a hell of a lot larger than the Demcong Party recognized. R, you don’t get it, and doubling down will only serve to further decimate the Demcong Party.

    The desperation in the party and its media surrogates is palpable. The harder you flail, and the more you sneer, the more you will lose. Flyover country is sick of your shit.

  159. Hands down Sessions will be a superior AG and simply does not ,nor does the nation deserve the continued silliness from the democrats. At worst and mean at worst right down to where the rubber hits the road…. Sessions has been proven to be LESS OF A RACIST and far less race conscious than ERIC HOLDER. THAT’S JUST FACT.

    I’m not sure how many other people there are who are as qualified for the position, but I doubt that many are MORE qualified. I’m looking forward to a DOJ that is more committed to law than “social justice”. It will be a fantastic pallet cleanser after the unbridled nonsense of the Obama years.

    Lizzie is a tool. She has had the good fortune of making a great living without having to demonstrate any remarkable skill or acumen, let alone any proof of heritage she “appropriated”. In many ways, she is the epitome of the form over substance that so accurately defines the American Left.

  160. Regardless, Trump will not finish his term. Resignation,

    Galactically unlikely.

    impeachment

    Given their propensity to double down on their disdain and contempt for the average American, its more likely that monkeys will start flying out of my butt than Demcong getting enough seats in Congress to even consider the attempt during Trump’s term.

    or the unmentionable.

    I’ve seen and heard it mentioned a lot lately for being “unmentionable”….usually by wildly unhinged leftists (BIRM), and usually without the otherwise predictable expressions of “outrage” by other leftists.

    I guess they’re too busy committing violence against people who don’t agree with them and trying to destroy their lives.

    Odd, that.

    But one of the three will happen with 95% certitude (h/t to the late great John McLaughlin).

  161. In other news, much like Jimmy Carter owes Barrack Obama for displacing him as the Worst President of the last 50 years, W. should buy Trump a bottle of really good scotch for single-handedly subsuming all the lingering Bush Derangement Syndrome in the Left’s consciousness and turning into this YUUUUGGGGGEEEE rage against Trump. Yes sir, W. owes Trump bigley for this.

  162. R, you don’t get it

    Oh I get it much better than you think and if I allowed myself to ponder it too much, I would lose sleep.

    The right wanted a course correction badly after 8 years of identity politics on steroids. The proper course correction would have been minimally Jeb Bush. The more exotic solution, a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. Or if you want the Trump “candor” without the crazy, a Chris Christie.

    But no. You guys went batshit crazy putting your uncle who emails you Alex Jones articles into the White House. And then you wonder why the Vietcong , errrr, Demcong is doubling down.

    This is not going well. It will not end well. You wanted to put out the SJW fire but instead of using water, you used gasoline. There will be hell to pay.

  163. There will, indeed, be hell to pay.

    The real question is….who’s going to pay it?

    One thing’s for sure, we’re living in interesting times.

  164. We have an Attorney General ladies and gents. I hope Manchin doesn’t pay for his Yea. I saw him in a few things recently and he’s been fair. I imagine W.VA likes him. Be interesting to see him on Pruitt given the coal hard facts 🤔

  165. So I’ve been walking about the resourve village and have come across the point that may be DeVos first significant act. Canceling Obama Title IX findings. This will “flush” the trans guidance down the drain.

  166. I wonder if America would be wholly impressed with say half a million Trump men who marched on Washington with three foot knit penises on their head? I don’t know if we could make it anatomically correct – I guess we would have to put our caps on backwards to keep the cotton balls from blinding us while we walked.

  167. The right wanted a course correction badly after 8 years of identity politics on steroids.

    No, the right wanted to be the ones doing the steering. The country wanted a course correction.

    The proper course correction would have been minimally Jeb Bush.

    If JEB! is the answer, you’re asking the wrong question.

    The more exotic solution, a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul.

    Actually, either would have been the course correction you were waxing poetic about.

    Or if you want the Trump “candor” without the crazy, a Chris Christie.

    Aside from his open and continuous hostility towards public sector unions, which will destroy the bottom line for most states, he’s anything but a “conservative”.

    But no. You guys went batshit crazy putting your uncle who emails you Alex Jones articles into the White House.

    No, the Left, through their surrogates in the media (BIRM) put Trump in the White House.

    I would have been much happier watching Cruz, or even Rubio rhetorically eviscerating Felonia Von Pantsuit in the debates, and beating her up and stealing her lunch money on election night.

  168. This is not going well. It will not end well. You wanted to put out the SJW fire but instead of using water, you used gasoline. There will be hell to pay.

    How so?

    The QUILTBAG crowd will conduct a protest, and hit people with their dildos? The purple armpit haired “feminists” will withhold sex from the beta males and imaginary men who populate their lives? Only Black Lives Matter will call police names and riot, loot, and burn their own neighborhoods? Environmentalists will chain and lock themselves to the electrified gates of oil refineries? Lefty wymyn will continue to remove their genetic material from the gene pool while enriching the murderous harpies at Klanned Murderhood? Wymyn and gheys will demonstrate in favor of enacting sharia law here so they can be beaten with impunity and thrown off the tops of buildings?

    You don’t get it. The people who grow the food, build things, fight the battles you won’t, and own guns are sick of the Left’s shit. If the Left’s proficiency grew to match its violent impulses, the pushback would be horrifying…and I say that as someone who recognizes that it will take a bloody manifestation of reality to realign the Left’s priorities and snap it out of the delusion and fantasy that it has been trying to declare reality for sometime now.

    To paraphrase Gen. Mattis, I’m coming in peace, and I’m begging you with tears in my eyes…DO NOT FUCK WITH THESE PEOPLE, or they WILL kill you.

  169. The country wanted a course correction.

    Sorry Sport, roughly half did NOT want a course correction. That’s precisely why civil war (currently rhetorical, potentially violent) is under way. A country with an overwhelming mandate is not a candidate for civil war. Trump has no mandate.

  170. You boys and girls laugh at the snowflakes. It’s funny to me how none of us learn from example.

    The libs laughed at Trump and got their comeuppance. The right now mocks the snowflakes completely unaware that it is acid rain about to come down on them. Each battle the left loses – DeVos, Sessions, will crank up the rage. I see it on Facebook every day.

    As I said, if I dwell on this too much it will keep me awake. Everyone from the left to the right to the media is knowingly or unknowingly conspiring to bring us to a state of crisis not seen since the 1960’s.

  171. The only course correction I see is the shortcut or bushwacker route. The bankers are still managing things their way. Their goal is still global. The revolving door between congress/lobby/industry/regulating agency remains intact.

    Spin to the right or spin to the left, no matter. It deposits the same patron saints.

  172. “completely unaware that it is acid rain about to come down on them.”

    What the fuck are they going to do?Attack my family?

    I will curb stomp them to death. Get a socialist can elected President? I’ll deal with it while Congress obstructs. It’s like you don’t understand how many State seats your party has lost. Do you realize you have no ground game outside of breaking windows and attacking old people?

  173. Everyone from the left to the right to the media is knowingly or unknowingly conspiring to bring us to a state of crisis not seen since the 1960’s.

    They desire pandemonium. They need chaos to use their standard problem>reaction>solution control tactic to take the rest of our rights. It has worked well for them so far. We are a conditioned culture. Social media is spreading fear and hate. Mainstream media dramatizes and amplifies it.

    It really helps to turn all that garbage off. It is all meaningless. Where’s the value?
    Take back control of your life. Your mind. Your time. Your power. Your peace.
    Go outside and take a walk in nature. Barefoot if you dare.

  174. Sorry Sport, roughly half did NOT want a course correction.

    Keep telling yourself that, but out in Realsville, beyond the coastal enclaves, people understand that government can’t “give” them anything…it can only take, extract a not insignificant shipping and handling fee, then redistribute to someone else.

    Half the country didn’t want Lord Zero either, because we understood that like you, he didn’t believe in America, only in taking, and redistributing, because at some pint of the government’s choosing, the government can determine how much you can achieve, how much you can keep, and how much you need to render unto.

  175. Each battle the left loses – DeVos, Sessions, will crank up the rage. I see it on Facebook every day.

    There will be pussy hats in the streets…on the steps of Congress, and preventing people with opposing views from speaking in publicly funded universities!

    The rage is comical. Your party holds the fewest Congressional seats it has had in decades. It has the fewest governorships it’s had in decades. It has the fewest statehouses it’s had in decades. This isn’t a fluke. This is the product of arrogance coupled with an absolute inability to actually persuade. People don’t like being lectured to by others who have no idea how to actually make things work, People do not like being ridiculed and mocked by their employees when they register their objections. It isn’t an accident that this shrinkage became precipitous under Obama…it was a natural progression. Trump is an extreme swing of the pendulum. I believe he’s going to screw some things up…just like Obama screwed some things up, but the minute ONE PARTY shoved ObamaDoesn’tCare down the throats of this country, and demanded that people be FORCED to purchase a product as consequence of their existence, the Democrats were doomed to failure. If it wasn’t for Obama’s unilateral changes to the law to forestall many of its most odious provisions, this shit would have blown up in his face in the his second term.

  176. What the fuck are they going to do?Attack my family?

    I’m thinking more along the lines of protester/police/military conflicts and attempts of violence against the government.

    I’m not thinking violent attacks against families like yours. I envision families on both sides of the divide seeing this play out on the evening news.

  177. I kinda think MENSA is overrated. Last time I looked (years ago) my SAT scores made me a MENSA candidate.

    In any case, Mad Dog is supposed to be a brilliant man. I’m actually glad they gave him the waiver to serve.

  178. Your acid rain snowflakes will be met with the same derision at the vagina helmets – the butt of global jokes. And if it gets too personal, the end of their miserable lives.

    Guys like Rabbit and myself, probably guys like BIC, Tigre, James, and Alfie, put up with stupid shot for awhile because none of your Leftist spawn is worth spending a night in the pokie, embarrassing our families, or paying a Soros fine as long as the assholes are kept in their safe spaces of campuses and ghetto America. Frankly, they can burn Berkeley or ghetto Baltimore down with my consent. Makes for good TV. Clean those shitholes up and we’ll wash the ash down the sewer.

    The minute millions of us honestly believe any of you assholes are truly a threat to family, life, limb or even personal property, don’t be so stupid to think we won’t unleash hell. And somewhere in there will be a few guys I know that have been itching to put large caliber bullets in your skulls for at least 20 years. I shudder to think what some of my gun toting fanatical acquaintances might do a crowd of Anarchists with little more than Obama mush in their heads walking around with bats. None of this pussy rubber bullet shit – military hardware that will vaporize heads.

    You think I’m going to get into a pepper spraying contest with some masked loons and vagina headwearers screaming with foul breath and spitting in my face?

    Fuck that. If I’m going to make the nightly news and probably going to prison, I’ll make a trip down to the depository and buy some flouric acid that dissolves flesh on contact coming out the end of a motorized tree sprayer. The EMs won’t be spraying down the snowflakes with water. They’ll be putting out a grease fire smelling of burning hair and flesh, unable to lay a hand on them until the acid can be neutralized. Within 60 seconds, most of these snowflakes will look like zombies – real zombies.

    You have no idea how many white men want to go medieval on assholes from the Left, do you? Damn Rutherford, you are naive.

  179. “I’m thinking more along the lines of protester/police/military conflicts and attempts of violence against the government.”

    Military conflicts?

    So the left intends to provoke something because they lost an election. I know you’ll do your part to restore sanity to the Trigglypuffs. 🙄

    As I said, your brothers in arms have relied on the general decency and passivity of the right it accuses of violent tendencies. The right obviously invited domestic terrorism and riots for not voting Hillary. I’m sure this will rally itself to victory for the left — or doom it forever.

  180. Military?????? Can you imagine these campus fags fucking with the milatry??? Lol.

    What could be dangerous is if the left decides to start a race war and gets the black panther types to start randomly murdering urban whites.
    Of course, feral blacks could burn down businesses, too. Yawn.

    But, at the end of the day…You don’t see many blacks with the anarchist (code word for violent left).

    I suppose some college kids could move on from beating up old men and breaking windows and blow something up.

    It is possible the radical left teams up with ISIS.

    But man…. Rutherford acts like these sissy fucks are going to rock the nation with violence. Total disconnect from reality as usual. But b but b b Facebook!

    Dude just doesn’t get how many millions of gun safes are out there flush as fuck.

    I’ll give Rutherford once thing. His peeps have set up violent theocracies on the college campuses all across the land. They have shut down free speech there. They also made a free speech coup attempt on America once after Palin shot Gifford or whatever her name is.

  181. The right obviously invited domestic terrorism and riots for not voting Hillary. I’m sure this will rally itself to victory for the left — or doom it forever.

    Wait until we reject Lizzie Warren….Hillary Clinton without the charm.

    After the Democrats salted the earth in the Senate with their shallow and vapid opposition to Sessions, I’m sure we’ll be treated to endless hand wringing about the “loss of colegiality in the Senate” and numerous explanations of how that is the fault of the Republicans.

    Sessions is a better man than I.

    I don’t think I would have endured the baseless slander from Senator Liawatha with his calm and composure…which again shows that he’s got the right character for the AG position.

  182. “As I said, if I dwell on this too much it will keep me awake. Everyone from the left to the right to the media is knowingly or unknowingly conspiring to bring us to a state of crisis not seen since the 1960’s.”

    What is the right doing to bring us to a state of crisis? Not playing along with the pussy tantrum?

  183. “Wait until we reject Lizzie Warren….Hillary Clinton without the charm.”

    I don’t know about that. I think Warren has the fickle mob buying the”fighting the good fight” shtick.

    Hopefully she is too old.

    I see the Presidency becoming a populist clown show for quite some time, thanks to the info revolution and the slow death of legacy media.

  184. I don’t know about that. I think Warren has the fickle mob buying the”fighting the good fight” shtick.

    No doubt. Have to agree with that observation, being Warren is as stupid as the next regressive turd and has a microphone. Same with that ignorant Bernie Sanders, a hypocrite that needs to be waxed.

    That’s why we can’t let our guard down now and need to constantly be on the attack from here on out. The louder the Left is whining, the harder the gas pedal needs to be depressed. The more mendacious the rank propaganda gets, the more personal and vicious we need to make it, Saul Alinsky style. Take that insufferable POS Graychin as personal example. 😆

    Go directly after the sons of bitches than the party itself.

  185. Spicer raised a good point today I hadn’t considered.

    Basically, remember when Barack Obama, during his State of the Union address, disrespected the judiciary and talked mad shit about the Supreme Court ruling on Citizens United and the left completely lost its shit?

  186. Basically, remember when Barack Obama, during his State of the Union address, disrespected the judiciary and talked mad shit about the Supreme Court ruling on Citizens United and the left completely lost its shit?

    Not to mention that it could have had an effect on Barry professionally…if he was still an attorney.

  187. Why is it more wrong for the Executive to publically disrespect the Judicial than it is for the Legislative to publically disrespect the Executive?

    I find this whole line regarding Trump and the “so-called judge” to be missing the larger point. Yeah, he talked shit about a judge. But he did so while respecting the judge’s ruling. It’s not like he made some Jacksonian statement about a lack of enforcement and then turned around and did it anyway.

  188. “Everyone from the left to the right to the media is knowingly or unknowingly conspiring to bring us to a state of crisis not seen since the 1960’s.”

    “What is the right doing to bring us to a state of crisis? Not playing along with the pussy tantrum?”

    Correct.

    And how exactly does one unknowingly conspire?

  189. Man, as a Conservative Republican the feckless Washington Governor and his merry band of political hacks masquerading as judges did me a massive favor. I want others to realize this. This is what we wanted – a big fight against liberalized institutions.

    Who doesn’t want to start a national referendum to undermine and marginalize these feckless stacked courts of Leftist stooges and return power to the will of the people?

    You will never restore this country until start cleaning house of the Obama assholes loitering around courtrooms.

    Shit, bring it on. I don’t see how Trump politically loses on this one. And not meaning to macabre, but if anybody gets killed by any scumbag coming out of any of these seven countries, what do you think is going to happen to the 9th court.

  190. DR, the 9th cir ct of appeals opinion is a joke, and predictable. Total. Joke.

    The fortunate or unfortunate part is that it’s more of the precedent setting stupidity that the ignorant idiots that cheer will later wish they had not.

  191. Especially for the Rabbit. Everyone but Rutherford will get a hoot out of this one. A composite of Dear Leader Obama’s athletic prowess – the man of twitching pecs and perfectly creased pants. 😆 😆

    These are classics. From missing the golf ball, to missing the rim on a lay up, to gutter ball, to not getting a pitch to the plate – the whole shebang. I don’t know whose the bigger fraud; Obama or the media.

    http://freebeacon.com/culture/fact-check-obama-not-good-kite-surfing-sport/

  192. remember when Barack Obama, during his State of the Union address, disrespected the judiciary and talked mad shit about the Supreme Court ruling on Citizens United and the left completely lost its shit?

    No but I so remember the right lost theirs and now they’re mum about Trump.

    You need to get off the hypocrisy train Huck. It ain’t workin’.

    This is The United States of Hypocrisy. EVERYBODY, right and left is completely full of shit.

  193. Tex – unanimous decision and one of the three judges was a Bush appointee.

    I heard that San Francisco circuit court always leans left. There’s another (I don’t recall which one) that always leans right.

    It matters not. Many legal gurus (like Dershowitz for example) say the Supremes will side with Donald.

  194. “EVERYBODY” nothing. We are not the same. If we were there would be no more violent “protests.” The mob is LEFTIST and so far the right has not returned fire.

    This “EVERYBODY” stuff is a lie.

    The LEFT is a scourge, with operatives running around hiding behind masks and hoods trying to beat people down and punish them for NOT being like the left.
    The LEFT is destroying businesses and neighborhoods.
    The LEFT wants to burn this bitch down.

    Mass media is almost entirely LEFTIST propaganda.
    Academia is almost entirely LEFTIST indoctrination.
    The entertainment industry is almost entirely LEFTIST clowns.

    The LEFT is trying to ruin the lives of and eradicate the opposition. The LEFT is trying to subjugate the right.

    “EVERYBODY” nothing.

  195. “This is The United States of Hypocrisy. EVERYBODY, right and left is completely full of shit.”

    Yep. And the right heard for 8 years how they were. You’ve suffered 3 weeks of it.

    3 fucking weeks. Suck it up, buttercup. I’m going to be up the left’s ass for a while.

  196. I actually had a degree of concern for my friends Tigre and BIC. Your chosen profession, of which I am sure you guys smart enough you could have picked your field, has lost so much credibility the last 20 years because of politic, that it’s bleeding a slow death. I’m old enough to remember when the Supreme Court actually held a great measure of prestige.

    Let’s face it. If Barack Obama had invoked the same privilege, on the same issue, with the same words, with the identical rollout, would we even be having a discussion of legality? Would a couple of Dim weasel governors in Washington and Minnesota ever raised an eyebrow, much less filed to sue?

    Since when did I become so stupid that I need The words of Constitution, which is a pretty easy read I might add, interpreted for me by a bunch of political hacks playing judge in black robes apparently so profoundly arrogant to believe only an expert team of legal weasels can determine intent? Do words mean nothing anymore?

    I watched a little of Chrissie Hayes last night for grins. They were treating this like they had won the Superbowl with a bunch of yuck yucks. It didn’t even anger me because I know soon, the sides will change and those sissy looking grins will be changed to gnashing of teeth.

    The entire judicial system is being undermined by shit like this. All of it.

  197. Reuters , I think gives Trump a 59% approval rating, and another gave him 53%. Still another poll says more people believe Trump than believe the news media. I don’t know if the polls are accurate but if Obama was the subject, the media would have been discussing the numbers. There may be some truth to the polls because I have heard nothing about Trump’s ratings lately.

  198. Rutherford I haven’t seen much to complain about besides the free advertising for Avanca’s business and sloppy mistakes with implementing the executive order.

    We have lived in a reverse world for many years.

    The left is frustrated, angry, and scared. They are showing their true colors when before now, they at least put on a marginably unbiased face. They are traitors to the nation we grew up in and which made them and us what we are.

    Marco Rubio, I think, said it is terrible that both sides are so mutually hostile that they can not compromise. I think one side will destroy the other before we find peace. The left was forced to go underground after McGovern lost. Now, I hope the Republicans are wise enough to fire all influences in our schools and government.

  199. Man, as a Conservative Republican the feckless Washington Governor and his merry band of political hacks masquerading as judges did me a massive favor.

    Actually, while our governor is dumber than a bag of hammers and is agenda driven beyond the point of reason (his proposed budget was so far removed from reality that even the Dems in the state house rejected it), the problem is our idiot AG. The two are trying to out-idiot each other on this, but the AG has the upper hand, as he had the ability to bring the suit to begin with.

    The Judge is a federal one, so Jay Inslee had nothing to do with his appointment.

  200. No but I so remember the right lost theirs and now they’re mum about Trump.

    R, there were distinct differences between the two.

    1) Lord Zero deliberately insulted guests in a venue in which they had no opportunity to respond. And what little they had available to them, they were roundly criticized for using. Remember every leftist medial shill (BIRM) losing their shit over Alito’s reaction? But what did he know? The guy criticizing the court’s ruling was doing so with demonstrably false statements, and was such a good lawyer that he voluntarily surrendered his license to practice.

    2) The court actually had authority to rule on the matter of Citizens United, which did not involve the question of the use of authority by the executive of power EXPLICITLY granted to the Executive.

    3) Even as a “voluntarily retired lawyer”, Lord Zero is an honorary member of the Illinois Bar Association, and his actions violated their professional rules of conduct. Had he actually been licensed by the Illinois attorney licensing authority, he could have been subject to disciplinary proceedings by that authority for his actions. Trump is many things, but an attorney is not one of them. While his comments also undermine the authority of the judiciary, they do not pose the same professional and ethical problems that Barry’s did.

    https://threesurethingsoflife.wordpress.com/2010/01/29/a-professional-ethical-and-legal-problem/

  201. It matters not. Many legal gurus (like Dershowitz for example) say the Supremes will side with Donald.

    I don’t share his, or your, confidence.

    Sotomayor, Kagan, and Ginsberg will be happy to uphold the 9th, and Kennedy has been increasingly nonsensical as his tenure has progressed.

    One thing I look forward to in Gorsuch’s appointment is his ability for consensus building and the high potential that he will bring Kennedy back on the the legal reservation.

  202. Trump needs to withdraw and reenter an improved order. This one will blocked up too long.

    And now we have illegals streaming across the border — the very reason for the immediate and unannounced immigration order.

    Huck, fuck Rutherford and keep going. Every fucking thing Trump does is disingenuously met with histrionic and manufactured reactions for the idiot press. It’s all gonna be the end of the world. When you point to the shit the MSM and idiots like rutherford sat idly by and watched, then actively applauded, who are now trying to play everything up, it makes a point beyond “I know you are but what am I.”

  203. I agree Trump needs to by pass the court with an improved order. I have a feeling the Supreme Court will end this order with a tie.

  204. the only person it aint working for is you.

    No it ain’t working with almost half the country.

    Let me repeat: neither party has any monopoly on hypocrisy. In fact I’m beginning to think hypocrisy is a fundamental ingredient of politics.

  205. I’m going to be up the left’s ass for a while.

    Be my guest while your country goes down the toilet. Your considerable analytical skills are better used elsewhere IMHO.

  206. If Barack Obama had invoked the same privilege, on the same issue, with the same words, with the identical rollout, would we even be having a discussion of legality?

    If you had tits you’d be a woman. Obama would NEVER have rolled this out like Trump because unlike Trump, he’s not CRAZY.

    In fact, as we all know, Obama rolled out a similar move years ago and did it in such a way that it passed muster.

    Instead of calling Rudy 911 Giuliani, Don should have called Barry and said “hey remember when you did that immigration slowdown shit a few years ago? How do I pull that off again?”

  207. You know what should piss you off Tex? A chick from AZ who didn’t bother to learn a lick of English after 22 years here illegally, got her ass kicked back to Mexico earlier this week. All hell broke loose. Obama did this 65,000 fucking times last year: not a peep from anyone.

  208. In fact, as we all know, Obama rolled out a similar move years ago and did it in such a way that it passed muster.

    No, he just did it in a way that neither the left or the media (BIRM) bothered reporting about, and some of the media have been honest enough to admit it.

    Obama could do no wrong, despite being so lawless that he made Nixon look like an amateur.

  209. And now we have illegals streaming across the border — the very reason for the immediate and unannounced immigration order.

    We do? Says who? More Mexicans leaving than coming from what I hear. It has to do with that failed Obama economic recovery you like to snark about.

  210. Remove the restriction as it applies to the current visa holders and I think we’re good to go.

    Nope. Also gotta remove exceptions for religious minorities e.g. Christians. Otherwise it will still be viewed as a Muslim ban.

  211. Here’s what I had to do on the tax payer dime today: Get into groups of colleagues, in a forum run by the Department of Education, and tell my workmates what my preferred gender pronouns are.

    Department of Ed then showed us a baby picture of Teddy Roosevelt in a dress as a baby, yes that Teddy Roosevelt that wrote a book on the importance of masculinity and manliness, and told us gender roles were not what they are in 1890. Total disingenuous crap. Teddy Roosevelt!

    Good one Fed….Babies used to wear gender neutral dresses….Proof masculinity is fleeting.

    We then saw a painting of Revolutionary War King George as proof real men wear wigs, tights and make up. I’m not making this up.

  212. “I’ll see you at the bottom of the ocean after the Trump ship sinks”

    I promise you that you and your liberal bretheran will be at Davey Jones’ locker before any of us are if the ship sinks.

  213. Your thoughts on his reported criticism of Trump’s comments?

    I saw nothing wrong with them, although I don’t believe that he himself was “demoralized”.

    If he didn’t know that Trump says silly things, then he isn’t as smart as I give him credit for.

    The difference between Trump and the Chicago Messiah is that while they both say stupid things, Trump still manages to land on the correct side of an issue more often than not.

    Well, that and the fact that the Trump could stand up and give the more brilliant doctoral thesis of the decade, and the media will still find something they believe to be wrong or stupid, and make it news coverage for a week.

    Barry could stutter his way through a few pages of Noam Chomsky (or the Greater Chicago phone book…same difference, actually) , and the media would have reported it as the most brilliant doctoral thesis of the last decade.

  214. BiC twist yourself in knots. Obama “insulted” the court and so did Trump. Even Steven baby. Game over.

    Hardly. Obama’s conduct is the kind of behavior that gets lawyers admonished or disbarred…and even as a “former” lawyer and hahahahahahahahahahahahagasphahahahahahahahaha “Law professor”, he knew it. He also wasn’t criticizing on twitter. He was exhibiting the kind of smallness and petulence he exhibited whenever his mask slipped. With Trump, we KNEW he didn’t play by the Marquis of Queensbury rules, nor did he pretend to, or have the unmittigated gall to lecture us about civility one moment, and insult his guests to their faces in the next.

  215. “Tigre, almost every time you defend Trump you demonstrate you left your brain in the voting booth.”

    Which “defense” are you referring to this time?

  216. You’re deranged regarding BHO, BiC. As are many others here. I’ll see you at the bottom of the ocean after the Trump ship sinks.

    Regarding Lord Zero, it is more incredulity than derangement. He was the biggest fraud perpetrated on this country, and he managed to do lasting damage.

    Trump ain’t my guy. He never was, but I will admit to being endlessly amused at how he makes the media and the left (BIRM) continually chase their tails as they persist in the mistaken belief that they can cow him into silence with the same tactics they have used against spineless Republicans, despite the fact that it hasn’t worked yet.

    I do think that he is actually likely to make the country better, in spite of his antics, rather than because of them, and if the only thing he does is continue to cause the spittle flecked raging trigglypuffs, beta males, and specific victim groups perpetrated by the left dissolve in a screaming, impotent rage, and maybe even be pushed to violence against free speech because they need to feel safe from words that trigger them, causing the country to turn away from them in growing numbers with each passing day, I’d consider that a good term’s work.

  217. Hey Rabbit, serious question. What would have happened if in the middle of that “choose your pronoun” symposium, you whispered to yourself “this is bullshit” and walked out? Would you have been fired?

    IMO, you shouldn’t have to listen to that crap.

  218. If I were consulting Trump I would have him rewrite the immigration EO. Mine would immediately close all immigration for a period up to 120 business days while the Executive Branch Departments audit the immigration process with particular four on the reciprocal security arrangements between countries. My trick here would be that wham immediately most countries would be “checked” off my list. I would then actually audit the trust level of other countries. Ultimately all the failed states and countries without formal diplomatic relations would find themselves on the 120 end of the spectrum.
    That’s what Trump should’ve done in the first place anyway but wtf do I know I don’t vote for him.

  219. “You don’t need a significant number to commit atrocities,” he noted. He also said that the 9/11 attacks were pulled off by fewer than 20 terrorists, “out of maybe millions of immigrants in the United States. So it’s not about the number, it’s about the quality, it’s about the intentions.”

    True Dat! Who is that wise sage? Oh Shit! Bashar H Assad

  220. Okay. Someone here help me locate video or other reliable proof of the marauding Trump supporters beating a minority, or immigrant, burning the bitch down or any of the shit we see being done to Trump supporters by Rutherford’s brothers in arms. I am serious. I’m really looking for it. One of the ladies at work has said “it happens all the time, you just deny it because of confirmation bias.” She mentioned some video teenage school girl near the mexican border that was surrounded by white boys chanting Trump that beat her down, but I couldn’t find it. So I Googled the fuck out of this, and all I find are the Trump supporters being beaten or the admitted/proved hoaxes.

    Anybody know of a real incident (not the shit at the Trump rally we saw) or the gangs of Trump supporters incited to violence? The Trump induced craziness. Not the made up clock boy bullshit. The real violence. It must occur ’cause there’s whackjobs in every group. I honestly can’t find it though.

  221. this is bullshit” and walked out?

    Fired probably. They would love to. Luckily, I am amabassador to the trailer park while on the other hand autistic kids seem to mysteriously like the rabbit. In other words…I’m the only one who can handle the turds, probably because I am also a turd.

    My department hates me. Administrators hate me. I’ve simply been at the same place too long and can’t hide the inner asshole that I am. It will be a miracle if I make it at this point.

  222. Damn Rutherford, I think you’re starting to crack. Seriously.

    A died in the wool atheist and a militant one at that talking about seeing you on the bottom?

    I got a question for you. Old Hippy? Remember the day before when Old Hippy was dissing God and religion and you guys were having a great yuck yuck over it? Simple question.

    You think Old Jim would have done the same if he knew he was going to be dead in 12 hours? Really, it’s a probing question. A serious question.

    I worry a little about you, Rutherford. Not your death. That’s beyond my control. Your life. Man, you appear to me to be entering a period of mild depression and it appears to read to me it is getting worse.

    You vacillate between hidden Obama withdrawal and Trump Derangement Syndrome, mixed in with a hint at personal issues dragging you down. Did this election season damage you, more than just us constantly ragging you? I know you take this crap a lot more seriously than I do.

    You okay, bud? You starting to give up? None of my business, of course. Should we attenuate the force a little as you use your board to sound off?

    I promise I’m not pulling your chain.

  223. “One of these days the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals may declare the Constitution unconstitutional.” -Thomas Sowell, 2003

  224. The Trump induced craziness.

    I smell a setup. How in Gods name can anything be determined to be “Trump induced” unless the perp declares his allegiance to Trump.

    They say the recent anti-Muslim attack in Canada was Trump induced. I assume you’re not buying that. (I can’t say I buy it either.)

  225. You think Old Jim would have done the same if he knew he was going to be dead in 12 hours?

    Can’t say. I didn’t know him well enough to know if atheism was a posture or true belief for him. True atheists use other means to reconcile a fear of death.

    I’m juggling a lot of balls, truthfully. Finances are tight, health is not tip-top and yes, I’m gobsmacked by current politics. I don’t back off my disdain for Hillary. I don’t regret my boycotting the POTUS election and only voting down ticket. But I’ll be damned if I understand where we are and where we are going. I feel like an airline passenger and the only one in the cockpit is Carrot Top (remember him?). I feel like I’m in a plane and have no idea how long it will stay in the air.

    So there’s a lot conspiring to effect my mood. And honestly, for all the razzing back and forth, there’s not a one of you I truly believe to be stupid and your lack of fear for where we are right now dumbfounds me.

  226. By the way most of you think I’m only blaming Republicans for the current state of affairs. I’m not.

    Case in point: Kellyanne Conway makes a dumbass remark urging women to buy Ivanka branded merchandise and the left (and Jason Caffitz LOL) start screaming ETHICS VIOLATIONS!!!! Every little thing is under a microscope. Any opportunity to undermine. It’s 20 days in and it feels like 2 years already.

  227. “your lack of fear for where we are right now dumbfounds me”.

    I can only speak for myself, I do fear for our future. There is much I don’t like about where I think this new world is heading.

    The Information Revolution is a destabilizing force much like the printing press was.

    In a way, the nation is becoming more of a city state. The mob is there for the taking, at all times.

    We saw it with the unqualified liar.

    And we see it with current backlash blowhard.

    Meanwhile, notions of basic privacy are vanishing in front of my eyes while the government’s tenticals are wrapping around us all.

    It’s a sci fi nightmare, really.

    At the one point in history we all need to respect things like individual freedom and the Constitution we have bat shit crazy libs who are either so afraid of risk that they are willing to sign it all away to Nanny or those who want to use Nanny to fulfill their nihilistic orgasm of destroying the West.

    Fucked up. Bad moon rising.

  228. Speaking for myself Rutherford I don’t really do fear unless I’m given a really good reason and the current state of civics ain’t making the cut.
    We will persevere at a minimum and there’s a good chance we’ll experience some definite positives.
    For all his bluster Trump is falling in line kind of. America is going to have an international reset and that is a good thing. Domestically I think we need to remember the Reagan years regards the proles bitching. There wasn’t a loud mouth anti-Ronnie that didn’t take his tax cut. I’m convinced our politicians are less classy than then but again we’re going to be okay.
    Not to be a prick but if I had to predict some stuff I would say 2.5 of the regulars here are apt to experience some angst yet be afforded some opportunities. You are one of those and I wish you and yours the very best.

  229. Rutherford, why do you continie choose to follow all this political shit so closely?

    You could be free.

    I need to quit my job to liberate my self. I’m looking at the the new Common Core social studies standards that might pass in Michigan and have realized it nothing but Globalist brainwashing. No distinction between cultures. Just an endless (and very boring) repeated mantra how everything has always been connected.

    Anything “West” is being eliminated or being watered down. Rome is on the same footing as Oceania.

    And any kind of narrative involving an individual? Forget about it.

    It will be as boring as it will be harmful.

  230. At the one point in history we all need to respect things like individual freedom and the Constitution we have bat shit crazy libs who are either so afraid of risk that they are willing to sign it all away to Nanny or those who want to use Nanny to fulfill their nihilistic orgasm of destroying the West.

    Bravo! Bravo! Well said. Couldn’t agree more.

    I’m sure I would call my feelings apprehension because I don’t have the control I used to. Of my kids, of my health. I worry about my wife a little these days as we are not getting any younger, though she is aging much more gracefully than I am. 😛

    I can’t shake this feeling of doom upon the land. I think we’re going to war. The Left is melting down and out of control, the hysteria levels is rising, and I see no way to tap it down without making an example of some of them. I guess my decision is have I gotten too long in the tooth to help the tap down and what are my wife and mother going to think if they see me beating a lib like a seal club on TV?

    I read today where my KU Jayhawks contract to play a home and home with California was canceled because the University of Cal refuses to recognize the state of Kansas for its discrimination and “transphobia.” And now I read the NFL is doing the same to the Texas teams, threatening them with no more Superbowls.

    The Left has even fucked up sports. I really hope Texas doesn’t cave and just tells Roger Goodell and the rest of fascists to suck it. I think more and more of us are really not giving a shit anymore if the NFL is canceled.

    And the feckless NBA? I won’t watch it.

  231. “How in Gods name can anything be determined to be “Trump induced” unless the perp declares his allegiance to Trump.”

    No set up. We see guys with MAGA hats being attacked, riots with all kinds of damage and violence where the anti Trump motive is obvious easy, we had a kid tortured for days with video of the Trump comments while they were cutting his scalp, girls hair being lit on fire etc. There’s gazillions of videos on the news and when I went searching for the pro Trump violence hundreds of attacks by anti Trumpers.

    I did find an anti Trumper get pepper sprayed when he went to Trump rally before the election that appeared to me to be totally unjustified. That kind of shit. Don’t make it Trump, make it “the right” or “conservatives” or whatever that are marauding or attacking. I’m sure it’s out there but I keep seeing the hoaxes and bullshit. I’m serious about finding it. I want to deliver my colleague something with reciprocal attacks because all I hear from her is “I strongly disagree” without examples. It was the same thing with all of the dangerous Tea Party protesters.

    This ain’t hard, Rutherford. I’m looking for the opposite of the attacks, rioting, property damage and intimidation that we say daily coming from the left. I’m not trying to convince you becuase you’re beyond convincing IMO. The left speaks of fear and hatred and oppression and racism — so scared for their safety. You know, the same stuff that was being said when Obama was elected because there was going to be this big racist backlash, only now it’s referred to as a “Whitelash.” Just looking for the real deal.

  232. At work is where it bothers me the most. Today there were chalkings promoting violence against those who don’t follow groupthink (“Punch Richard Spencer again!”) and others calling those who are for the defunding of Planned Parenthood “Nazi scum”. I’ve seen Email strings with teachers calling students “Trumpites” if they think gender and race studies are “indoctination”…as if that is some new idea. Outside my office I see signs mocking things to which I subscribe…there is still one celebrating the death of Scalia.

    And I can say nothing. To be quite honest, I would fear for my physical safety at this point if I even tried.

    In the cynical state I am in at this point…I really don’t care if it all sinks to the bottom. Trump didn’t do this. He only got people to show their true nature. We were already fucked.

  233. And for the record, I think Richard Spencer is abhorrent. But I absolutely support his right to say whatever the fuck he wants. Speech we like doesn’t need to be protected.

  234. Just think Huck, Rutherford dreams of retiring there and spending the rest of his days with the optimistic, free thinking youth….

    Man……Makes me want forgo college for my kids. Just turn into post apocalyptic Viking raiders of the left.

    In all seriousness, that was the most depressing thing I’ve read today.

  235. “Huck is Winston in the USA. Is that the 1984 guy?”

    You lost me. If that was an autocorrect for Richard Spencer, then he the alt-right guy who was filmed doing “hiel Trump” and recently got sucker punched while talking to the press.

  236. “In all seriousness, that was the most depressing thing I’ve read today.”

    You know, what really sucks is that I really love being in the classroom and teaching. But I hate dealing with the out-of-class bullshit. I guess that’s probably a common thing, but it’s quite disheartening.

  237. Rutherford dreams of retiring there and spending the rest of his days with the optimistic, free thinking youth….

    Nope. That wasn’t the Cambridge, MA that I wanted to retire to. I wanted to retire to where there was a free exchange of ideas – where the youth invigorated the mind, not stifled it.

  238. I thought you quit that Amazon thing a long time ago, Rutherford.

    What trades?

    There are all kinds. Humans still work on cars. They still build houses. They still install plumbing and electricity.

    Automation is not replacing skilled jobs. It’s replacing no- and low-skilled jobs. People who think they deserve as much for flipping burgers and greeting Wal-Mart customers as the people with actual skills.

  239. When I was in CT, Amazon kicked CT residents out of the affiliate program for tax reasons. I was hoping I could get back in when I moved to IL but IL got killed too … until sometime in the past couple of years. I discovered I could become an affiliate again late last year.

    So I rebuilt my newsfeed site http://4youranewsment.com and put a bunch of Amazon links on it. I just figured out how to post links on Facebook and Twitter today.

  240. People who think they deserve as much for flipping burgers and greeting Wal-Mart customers as the people with actual skills.

    This is the only reason I am not thrilled about minimum wage.

  241. Rutherford, a bad thought cross my mind this evening. I’ve given you so much chit over the years, I no longer think you can distinguish genuine concern with me setting you up for the kill. At another time that might give me a giggle, but not tonight.

    And I got admit, I regret that.

  242. And Huck. I regret giving you crap to about your chosen profession. There’s an honor in proper education – even a virtue. And I am sorry that you find yourself in a predicament not of your own making. That’s frustrating to read. Can’t imagine what it’s like to experience.

    I’m beginning to wonder if there really is a panacea for jobs. Let me tell you at 56 the drawbacks of trade schools. Your knees and your back. You better make your money early and save like a dog. Because most trade guys are facing an early retirement when the body breaks down. And it will.

    Tell you what happened to me this week. As all you guys and gal are aware, since I’m part of LT unemployment, 🙂 , I like to do most of the stuff myself around the house – frankly because I’ve gotten cheap and I got tired of paying for substandard work. It’s the only thing left making me feel useful these days.

    But I broke down this week and called a guy that had done some work for me seven years to build a few thresh holds around doors leading to the outside. Has done if for 40 years. He can do it better than I can. It’s what he does for a living.

    So I have these french doors leading to the outside that were just pouring in cold air when I leave the dog door open on a windowed patio and you get a gale out of the north. Scott is 69. I told him I wanted a thresh hold to match what he did previously. Looked nice. Tells me I don’t need one and it would work just as well to weather strip. I believe him, kind of and don’t argue.

    For an hour he groans and grunts and struggles to his feet. All he does is use stick on weather stripping and put some shit on the outside of the door I could have bought at Home Depot for $5 bucks and done it both better, neater, cheaper, and faster. It pissed me off but he’s a nice, old man and I wasn’t going to trash him. I’ll fix it myself.

    And the thought occurred to me later why he did it that way. He would have to drag out the saws, the tools, and do some pretty laborious work taking off some damn heavy doors which I volunteered my help.

    He can’t afford to retire but he can’t cut the labor anymore. That’s the drawback of a trade profession.

  243. Yeah…. Success in the trades must mean building an expanded business. And it’s so hard to keep people because if they have an IQ over 100, they build their own business. So you must rely on functioning drug addicts and drunkards for labor. Roofing being the most extreme of this model.

  244. I don’t know a plumber, an electrician, a carpenter, a heating and air that hasn’t experienced exactly what you just said, Rabbit. All of them have crashed and burned, and gone back to individual work because they can’t find the same quality help they produce. Some of them had their reputations tarnished on account of it. It’s hard to recapture that when you’re a real small business.

  245. He can’t afford to retire but he can’t cut the labor anymore.

    It’s the first part of that sentence that bothers me. I consider retirement part of the American Dream. There should come a time in a mans life when he works because he wants to, not because he has to.

  246. When it is slow I do my own tile, electric, and plumbing on my pools. Actually I have been doing all my tile and electric for the past 3 years because I enjoy it and am picky about the job. It sometimes kicks my ass, but a cold beer tastes so much better after a day of ditch digging.

    I don’t do big concrete jobs anymore. I don’t tie steel much anymore. I spend a lot more time drafting and bidding.projects. A lot more computer/desk time. I’ll be 60 in a couple months, Lord willing.

  247. My strength is waning. I can still pick up heavy objects. But they feel a lot heavier. 🙂

    What I’ve noticed isn’t so much I can’t do the work, but I hurt the next day after the work and I move slower than I used to. When my knees went four years ago, that was the beginning of the end. But I didn’t realize it until much later.

  248. Yesterday, my wife and I celebrated our 49th wedding anniversary. I cross country skied twice before the snow all melted, and I am going again to catch the last patches today.

    I hang on to my good health with more of a sense of urgency and gratitude. It will end eventually, and I will have fun while I can. Our daughter’s boss’s psychic has a theory.

    Our grand daughter should not be how she is according to the doctors, and I am partly responsible.

    The psycic said my good health was part of a plan to protect our grand daughter.

    With all of the mishaps I have had there is little reason I should still be alive, let alone fit. I think I am lucky with good genes, not part of a grand plan.

  249. there’s not a one of you I truly believe to be stupid and your lack of fear for where we are right now dumbfounds me.

    Fear of what, exactly?

    I saw this question last night, before signing off for the evening to go binge watch Season One of The Expanse with Heir No. One (who is now hooked), and I tried to wrap my brain around it.

    I’m sitting here eating breakfast in a house that I will lose in probably a month or so. I don’t have an apartment yet. My marriage is largely a technical state of affairs at the moment, but I do believe that we are both trying in our own ways.

    My youngest son, who I adore, is sitting next to me watching a Thomas video on his tablet and telling me all about it.

    My phone has been ringing a LOT more since the election, and I seem to be on track for my best month since going out on my own. The average people I meet seem to have a confidence that things are going to get better.

    The President is a buffoon, and a bore, but he seems to have surrounded himself with smart people who are not trained up in the mold of “No matter the question, government is the answer.” The Left is powerless, a consequence of its arrogance and overreach, and through its media arm, it has suddenly rediscovered the Constitution (sort of) and the notion of separation of powers. We will have a much less politicized AG, and several agency heads will actually be looking to reduce the impact of their agencies.

    I don’t think that things could get much worse than they have been, and I’m feeling pretty good about the future.

  250. Congratulations James. You guys have us beat by 9 years. Unusual to find that kind of longevity nowadays. It’s against the odds. The cultural norms. But that is generally the right way to travel in this realm.

    No skiing at these coordinates. 74 on the patio right now. It’s spring here for sure. Shorts and barefoot weather. Open up the house time. Mrs poolman is busy gardening.

    I’m looking forward to the good things coming.

  251. James, congratulations. Something to be proud off, for sure. So is Poolman’s. Man, you guys married young. I was an old man at 27. 🙂

    Going on 30 for me. God forbid something ever happened to her, I would never find another one like her.

  252. God forbid something ever happened to her, I would never find another one like her.

    It’s the thing about marriage I hate the most. One of us has to die first and I don’t like either alternative. 😟

  253. Why dwell today on that? We all will get there one day. Make it your proudest day.

    Remeber, stagnation leads to death. How many of us old farts can still learn new shit?

    A Flat Earth Awakening Story

    Challenge yourself everyday and stay accountable to someone. That will help your vision and focus.

  254. Thanks for the good wishes and you all deserve congratulations too.

    Once in a while, a spouse dies soon after the first. After many years, they become a matched set.

  255. In 2015, I think,President Obama by executive order installed several unisex restrooms around the White House. I just read that the Justice Department has rescinded it. Whether or not the government has, this Latvian video illustrates the risks of using a uni sex restroom.

    You will hate it. I think it is funny.

  256. I have really come to value the enjoyment of a nice, stiff drink and/or a good live band during the weekends. Yeah, I had plenty of both in my younger years, but I think I appreciate it more now. Tonight I am staying home, but I have plenty of booze and mixers and just enough knowledge to make me think I know how to put them together.

    A perfect setting for grading exams 😀

  257. I think if we passed state laws where “mostly peaceful protesters” could no longer go around with their identity concealed, we would see less violent activity by these groups.

  258. Oh sure, more laws. Laws have done so much over the years to curb violence and keep the peace. 🙄 ‘There oughta be a law’, just like Rutherford’s title. Silly. Most of the violent activity during protests is incited by paid provocateurs. The media then takes that, adds their spin, and runs with it.

    There are none as violent and oppressive as government. Let’s just go ahead and chip everybody so nobody can conceal their identity.

  259. The nuance of the terms we give groupings leads to a ball of confusion.

    First and foremost we need to keep the word RIOT reserved for the highest level.

    CROWD is a neutral word which is probably why people don’t like to use it when numbers and or actions reach a certain level. It is rather non descriptive when tossed out on its own. It is embraced by law enforcement ironically to soften the narrative and public perception. This is actually a good idea. (ex”crowd control” is better than “riot control”)
    PROTESTERS is actually too much of a catch all and fails to serve as a proper descriptor of what one is facing. It fits well in the media and the mind of the general public but it is a false path.
    CROWDS have distinct levels of science applicable to them. How a CROWD morphs including growth,violence,RIOT and dispersing is very clear and isn’t only influenced by agent provocateurs .
    CROWDS of any make-up can and usually do go through a defined order of change.

    There is clearly a need to balance the rights of free speech,assembly and association with the rights of others to use of public space and enjoy a level of assumed safety and order.

  260. I’ve thought that a great idea for some time, Muffy. And with today’s technology, I think there should be a blog board posting their faces and their criminal records just like you can look up in any state.

    But here is something that needs to change. I understand in DC, these bozos pepper spraying people and busting out windows are being slammed with a felony.

    Why does that need to be limited to DC? Their businesses are no more valuable than everyone else’s businesses.

  261. It would be great to hear of active screening on the part of organizers instead of the post account denial of allegiance. This is part of the problem with crowds. No matter how invested organizers are they simply do not or can not control them. One case in crowd science relies on the common ground to build the crowd into a cohesive unit. This is what one gets with big crowds that actually don’t get violent.

  262. @Tex – something like “Websleuths” which is a community that works to solve cold cases.

    I came across a discussion thread somewhere identifying one of the UC Berkeley brawlers as a university staffer making $70k/yr. People scoured the available footage for this guy after he was recorded suckerpunching and stomping one of his victims, and his face had popped out from behind the mask a time or two. Some unskilled former UC student in his 30s costumed in the latest in anarchist fashion.

    But yea a possible deterrent to the violence might be in the form of a neo-kkk hoodie statute.

  263. I think the left needs to step up regarding UC Berkeley-type situations. I find the “I dont condone violence but I understand the anger” infantilizes and incentivizes people to act out to bring attention to their own perceived virtue. Same for BLM outbursts.

  264. BLM an excellent example of the crowd dynamic destined for disturbances. The founding element itself is intentionally confrontational. The lack of audiences who actually care/are receptive ratchets up the crowds innate anger. The tipping point is easily met without outside agitators. That demographics as well as interlopers are guaranteed it is a marvel that any given BLM action doesn’t end in violence & vandalism.

  265. I don’t think a modern day variation of the Stamp Act is a good idea. As for law enforcement actions in terms of crowd control both violent and nonviolent the science speaks loudly. Containment and funneling of crowds helps to maintain order and minimize human injury and death.

  266. I have plenty of booze and mixers and just enough knowledge to make me think I know how to put them together.
    A perfect setting for grading exams.

    Tex and I were recently talking about Jim, The Hippie Professor. So Huck, do you need to start a blog called The Drunk Professor? 😀

  267. Let’s just go ahead and chip everybody so nobody can conceal their identity.

    Since I’m hawking 1984 on Twitter and Facebook I decided I better read it (DOH!) so I started it yesterday. Funny, within the first few pages the iconic “Big Brother is watching you” makes its first appearance. Orwell wastes no time painting this picture of dystopia.

  268. MOB would be a descriptor which as a word also has other meanings (mafia,criminal elements,rabble as a class label) therefore I don’t use it. I accept it fits and people readily understand it but in crowd science its a no-go.

  269. It is sad nobody will see Lizzie Warrens hatchet job on the confirmation votes and alter their opinion of her. She is a {#<%^£¥ disgrace.
    #makeMAmoreirrelevant

  270. How the {#€% did you make it into your fifth decade without reading 1984????

    I’m well into my sixth decade but who’s counting? 😊

    I knew I’d catch some heat on that but in all seriousness it is very interesting how varied people’s literary backgrounds are despite similar educations. My wife and I are both college grads but we differ in what we’ve read. This disparity is particularly true at the high school level where local school board practices influence curricula. For example, my wife has not read any Dickens. This blows my mind. Just as it blows your mind that I haven’t read 1984.

  271. Alfie, I’m puzzled by your Warren statement. She is a hero to the far left BECAUSE of her recent behavior.

    I think the better question is why her total abandonment of Sanders in primary season did not alter people’s opinion of her.

    I was a fan until she did a vagina-based 180 on Hillary last year. She’s on record saying hrc was bought and sold by the bankers and then she endorsed her anyway.

  272. Since I’m far from TV ready – one of the least photogenic folks I know – I hesitate to call out folks on their looks. That said, Donald needs to keep Stephen Miller behind closed doors. Dude was on Face the Nation today. He looks like a fucking robot. Completely expressionless face. Like an honest to goodness psycho film villain. The dude may be brilliant. I know very little about him but damn! He don’t belong in front of the camera.

    P.S. He was Trump’s warm up act at many of the campaign rallies.

  273. I’ll forgive you, Rutherford. After I graduated college, I was determined to read, cover-to-cover, all of the books I was supposed to have read in HS. Here’s what I learned: so much of what’s handed out to elementary and HS students requires life experience and maturity to fully appreciate and I think that’s where it’s lost most of all. Seriously, Fitzgerald and Hemingway as an adolescent?

    I did read John Barleycorn with a beer in hand on a FL beach with no intention of doing it to be ironic.

    Given all of the commentary here though, I wish you’d read up on some western political philosophy and our founding. So many of the debates here you totally miss because you dismiss in favor of popular politics. You’d gain a lot of perspective if you knew the “whys” and origins.

    I think Walter Russell Mead’s “Special Providence” should be assigned reading. Based on his numerous references, I think Alfie would agree.

  274. Ha. Just watched Stephen Miller. He is robotic and kinda creepy in the presentation.

    I was wondering whether he was just answering questions with prep-prepared answers on a monitor or cue cards. But his eyes weren’t traveling. Very, very odd delivery.

  275. I first heard about Miller in a Trumpcast podcast, a show explicitly anti-Trump. Their description of him was so bizarre that I had to go find a video of him, and despite their extreme bias, they nailed Miller completely.

    That’s why I did a double take when I found out he’d be on Face the Nation today.

    From a Trump tweet, I gather Miller may be doing close to the full Ginsburg today.

  276. The producer wants the Grammies to be so political they approach the line with out using swear words. My wife wants to see Adel. I will be watching an old movie on Comet TV’s live stream.

    I play mostly oldies and European music now. They may be as self righteously vapid as Americans, but I don’t know what they think or say.

  277. I’ve never read 1984, either. And Fitzgerald in HS was completely wasted on me. Or was it that I was completely wasted in HS? Ah well, they are probably both applicable.

  278. Elizabeth Warren is no surprise. She used the quota system for her benefit and insodoing, she stole a position and career from a true Native American. That woman is a thief, and untrustworthy. If she said she had your back she would put a knife in it to profit herself.

    My wife thought Stephen Miller had Spocke’s ears. Creepy.

  279. A crowd can become a cohesive violent mob. It becomes an independent organism capable of murder. I have seen it happen. I have also read about past mobs.

    I have also seen police operate as a psychological unit of destruction.

    When an angry crowd gathers, it becomes more than its parts and commits acts different from what an individual would do. We all know that, but little changes because a mob is also a weapon of intimidation. Dedicated people use crowds like a carpenter uses hammers.

  280. The Daily Mail printed another story about NOAH’s and others hoodwinking politicians who signed the Paris Agreement of 2015. By 2030 Brits will be paying almost three times what they now pay for national health care, and they will pay an extra sum to help poor countries’ incomes.

    The persuasion was based on a lie. Our scientists are becoming as untrustworthy as our corporate news industry is. Citizens of the Soviet Union had Radio Free Europe. Thank God for the internet,

  281. I had an epiphany today. Maybe not profound but interesting nevertheless.

    You can tell how different independent government entities TRULY feel by how they behave when the admin changes. ICE seems to be going whole hog on their mission now that Trump is in place. I suspect despite stories to the contrary, that our intel agencies are also happy to have Trump there. They want their hands untied.

  282. I think Walter Russell Mead’s “Special Providence” should be assigned reading. Based on his numerous references, I think Alfie would agree.
    I do!
    Not for nothing I just naturally assumed 1984 (& Animal Farm) had been part of the American Public Education System basics. It’s where I first got hit with them in middle school and then first year college too.

  283. Chuck Todd was a hack on an ESPN special. What you don’t realize until you see these shoehorns out of character is they are also miserable POS out from behind the desk. A dick with bad hair. Where does Todd get his haircut? WalMart?

  284. “As for law enforcement actions in terms of crowd control both violent and nonviolent the science speaks loudly. Containment and funneling of crowds helps to maintain order and minimize human injury and death.”

    I was speaking more to the inaction of law enforcement standing around doing nothing while people are being assaulted.

    But vigilante justice serves the purpose just was well. Anything beats standing around while the mostly peaceful protesters swarm in and beat people up.

  285. Well, since everybody is noting their shortcomings, I hadn’t read Animal Farm until last year when I found it my daughter’s closet. Why is that a classic? A Tale of Two Cities, yes. But not that. 🙂

    And Animal Farm would have been utterly meaningless to me in Jr. High or High School. As it was, I had to review the content and culture of Orwell to completely understand the meaning it was written.

    It’s amazing what public schools believe are classics that would interest preteen and teen.

  286. Can you imagine what some of these insecure twatwaffkes like Chuckles and Chrissy were like as kids?

    “Ooh ooh teacher you forgot to give us our homework!”

  287. It’s amazing what public schools believe are classics that would interest preteen and teen.

    I don’t think schools care what will interest the student. I don’t know what criteria goes into what’s important for a student to read but I think “interest” is near the bottom of the list.

  288. I’ve read more Orwell as an adult than when I was a kid. He is a weird read and having sampled a number of his works I find it funny how both right and left think he’s speaking to them.
    I agree much of his work requires the reader to know more than han what he presents.

  289. His demeanor reminds me of mine when I’m reciting the 84 Tigers with the hope I can last another 3 minutes with the ol’ lady.

  290. I have to say, I had no problem putting Orwell into context in highschool and I was a sub 1.0 student in possibly one of the worst white schools in Michigan. Y’all troglodytes.

  291. “His demeanor reminds me of mine when I’m reciting the 84 Tigers with the hope I can last another 3 minutes with the ol’ lady.”

    LOL.

    I can’t recite the members of my household, so I just go with, “you want a quickie, or the whole 2minutes?”

  292. And in related news, hundreds of no talent fucks are throwing themselves a pud-pulllin’ party, handing out Grammys with the rigor of an Obama Nobel Prize.

    Good luck, Kanye. If it’ll shut you the fuck up once and for all, we racists think it’s time you received the recognition your delusions and ego think they deserve.

    Couldn’t pay me to watch the shit.

  293. File under IRONY:
    One of the popular jokes back in 2008 was that if all qualifications being equal if Barack Obama was instead Barry O’Bannon or something along those lines he would never have gotten the nod.
    Now the Obama’s are going to be awarded honorary citizenship in Dublin Ireland. 😄

  294. “Couldn’t pay me to watch the shit.”

    I suspect the only ones who do are middle aged ladies who drink box wine. And maybe Rutherford? I wonder who really does watch those shows.

  295. Al Jarreau, died.

    Unique jazz vocalist. I just watched Grammy tributes to George Michael and Prince. Both tributes didn’t do the honoree justice.

    Last night I watched a 71 year old Debbie Harry try to recapture the excitement of “Hangin’ on the Telephone”. Yikes.

  296. And in related news, hundreds of no talent fucks

    I know this is blasphemy but I just watched Tribe Called Quest and as far as I’m concerned they should be renamed Tribe Called Noise.

    I think Rabbit likes them.

  297. And maybe Rutherford?

    Damnit! I outed myself. Well in my defense, the TiVo was tuned to CBS. I didn’t go out of my way to watch it. I’ll be turning to Last Week Tonight soon.

  298. I actually watched the train wreck formerly called the Grammy’s in between commercials of Lycans dueling it out with Vampires just to see if any of these animals could carry a tune. They couldn’t. Sounded like two dogs fucking. It dulled my senses like Mad 20/20. What was that?

    What they ought to really be protesting is what passes for music these days.

  299. “Not a rap fan but I make an exception when they sample a solid tune.”

    I had absolutely no idea what this comment was referring to until I read the comments section of the one I posted above.

    Stevie Wonder – Pastime Paradise (1976)

    I read comments that said Stevie worked with Coolio on his version. I don’t know the accuracy of that.

    I’m a metalhead at heart, but I LOVE black music (except the new stuff).

  300. Ha….That Nirvana live is a classic. Dummy cranks himself in the head with the bass. David Grohl is an animal on the drums. Cringe worthy diiss on GNR. They were at the peak of star-hood and it would be hard to even watch if they weren’t rocking the rock music in such a way that rocks so much.

  301. Debbie Harry is 71? When did that happen? My wife was happy that Adel won her categories.

    If I want to watch any of it, I will google You Tube.

  302. it would be hard to even watch if they weren’t rocking the rock music in such a way that rocks so much.

    I’m sorry but that phraseology cracked me up. Could you have possibly fit a fourth “rock” in there? 😀😀😀

  303. I didn’t read 1984 in HS. I did read Animal Farm, which too many of my classmates believed was about animals.

    I’d let the little mushy skulls get tuned up on Philip K. Dick’s “A Scanner Darkly”, then hit ’em with Heinlein’s “Farnham’s Freehold” and “A Stranger in a Strange Land”.

  304. Kurt Cobain was the absolute worst candidate for rock stardom. Fucked in the head combined with chronic digestive problems, the latter of which resonates with me big time.

    But they mastered the alternating soft/hard song structure. Some really great music.

  305. So Gerry Brown called up #NotMyPresident to ask for money to fix the leaking dam in #CalExit

    Oh, how I wish Trump would tell him to go fuck himself.

  306. What makes sarah silverman even relevant? When did stupid become marketable? Without going to the twitter link, I can tell those are blue stake markings put there to locate utilities. The swastika itself is a hijacked image anyway.

  307. “[Orwell] is a weird read and having sampled a number of his works I find it funny how both right and left think he’s speaking to them.”

    Better late than never for catching 1984 wave. Discovering the phrase “alternative facts” in the text is catnip to poorly read lefties, but if it gets them to read it – thats a good thing.

  308. I should be using those separation lines instead but NO to Petraeus and also the new Schlichter piece on turnabout of the rules for radicals is gooooood.

  309. A book club sounds interesting. Our school had a monthly book club with a chance to order paper back books for $.20 to $.40 a piece. I read most of the books mentioned because of that.

    One of my favorites was serialized in Saturday Evening Post. “No Blade of Grass” and “On the Beach” taught me a lot of human nature when I was in Junior High.

  310. An article in Tru News speculates that Obama has formed a shadow government to damage the new administration. Protests and leaked information are signs of their work.

    A Brit says his country has had a shadow government since 1867 legislation. The solution is to insure that they don’t have political power by constantly disproving their statements.

  311. I don’t think obama has the power to form anything other than sentences, and most of those are written for him. I think he could be a scapegoat or some other useful tool for the soros type globalists. He has served them well thus far. However, I believe we have had a shadow government in place for quite some time. Don’t take my word for it…

    Past presidents of the United States and other high profile political leaders have repeatedly issued warnings over the last 214 years that the U.S. government is under the control of an “invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.”

    According to six of our former presidents, one vice-president, and a myriad of other high profile political leaders, an invisible government that is “incredibly evil in intent” has been in control of the U.S. government “ever since the days of Andrew Jackson” (since at least 1836). They “virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties… It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”

    As a result, “we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”

    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/09/13/former-presidents-warn-about-the-invisible-government-running-united-states/

  312. LOL I can’t believe that guy wasted a good 15 minutes of his life that he can’t get back writing that silly post nor that American Thinker (LOL) thought that was publish-worthy as anything but satire.

    I will give you the skinny on the EC owners that bug me. It’s the ones that go lecturing others about the environment. If you get pleasure out of polluting less than the next guy, keep it to yourself. Shut the fuck up and drive.

    There are two memes in the EC world that do come off pansyish. First, the aforementioned eco-sensitivity and second, the constant griping about public charging etiquette.

    With that said, the Thinker has too much time on his hands. I guess anything to avoid writing about the latest Trump clusterfuck.

  313. Speaking of which … I’m getting the new pattern here in the bar. Whenever the Trump admin shits their pants the bar goes silent.

    Thoughts about Flynn?

    Bueller? Bueller?

  314. Rutherford I don’t see where the Flynn thing hasn’t gone the way it should’ve. I don’t buy the Russian hysteria stuff but agree Flynn should be gone more so for dishonesty than Logan Act angle.
    I’m still more concerned about the obstruction by the democrats and the anti Constitutional aspect of the judiciary.

  315. “Thoughts about Flynn?”

    Trump deserves the hit for bringing an Obama appointee and Democrat into his fold. They’re known to be corrupt liars who shouldn’t be trusted.

  316. “Trump deserves the hit for bringing an Obama appointee and Democrat into his fold. They’re known to be corrupt liars who shouldn’t be trusted.”

    Bullseye.

  317. “I can’t believe that guy wasted a good 15 minutes of his life that he can’t get back writing that silly post nor that American Thinker (LOL) thought that was publish-worthy as anything but satire.”

    From the guy that watched the Grammys? How girly of you.

    I shall read the rest of your comment aloud and with a slight lisp to mimic your internal dialogue on the subject.

    p.s. yo, virtue signalers, the fucking machines are million times worse for the environment than gas powered. Rutherford drives one so the honeys know where the action is.

  318. A cover up without a charge. The insufferable black spook and racist Cumming and Pelosi talking about impeachment for Trump? 😆 😆

    Chit Rutherford, I like to let you walk over the cliff when you’re heading down that path. Give you a little hope before we push over the cliff.

  319. One of my favorites was serialized in Saturday Evening Post. “No Blade of Grass” and “On the Beach” taught me a lot of human nature when I was in Junior High.

    On the Beach gave me a recurring nightmare I had for years.

    Jurassic Park was the same way, but I eventually wrote that nightmare out as a short story and it hasn’t bothered me since.

    Asimov was the other side to the fiction coin shared with Heinlein. Good novels, good short stories, good insight into humanity…I still think about the first three “Foundation” books (I swear Barrack Obama was our own version of “the Mule”) and Heinlein short stories like “The Logic of Empire”.

  320. “Im noticing a pattern or two here myself.”

    The pattern fits a old lawyer saying: “if you want to know what your opponent is up to, look no further than what they accuse you of.”

  321. Trump deserves the hit for bringing an Obama appointee and Democrat into his fold. They’re known to be corrupt liars who shouldn’t be trusted.

    LOL I swear I didn’t see that coming. 😀

  322. virtue signalers, the fucking machines are million times worse for the environment than gas powered.

    I assume you’re referring to battery disposal? It would be hard to argue that that end-of-life event is more harmful than the constant CO emissions over the life of the gas guzzler.

    At best it’s six of one, half a dozen of ten. 😊

  323. A cover up without a charge.

    You might not like the charge but there is one. Flynn shouldn’t have been chatting with the Russians about sanctions. And that is born out by the fact he lied to Pence about it. Lie=cover up.

    I lean toward Alfie’s assessment that the Russian connection is overblown but it would be hilarious after all of Trump’s Obama insinuations if Trump himself turned out to be a Manchurian candidate.

  324. I truly envy those who devour books. Reading has always been a chore for me. If I’m hooked, no problem. Trouble is, I’m seldom hooked. Heaven forbid the book develops its plot slowly.

    I’m a dialogue guy. That’s one reason why my favorite reads have been plays.

    I guess I should be ashamed to admit it but one of my fav reads was a book about the careers of Andy Griffith and Don Knotts that my wife gave me a couple of Christmases ago.

    P.S. I prefer non-fiction. 😐

  325. My favorite books have also been non-fiction.

    Alive (The soccer team that crashed in the Andes)
    Luckiest Man (Biography of Lou Gehrig)
    McCullough’s 1776
    The Longest Day & A Bridge Too Far

    If told properly, the best stories are the ones that are real.

  326. I consider myself an above average writer but I can’t write fiction to save my life.

    Starting 1984, I realized why. Orwell was describing someone’s face and I realized I’m not observant enough to describe anything. “The yellow sun rose in the blue sky” is about the limit of my ability to write descriptive narrative.

  327. I know Rutherford will find this one really sick. I’ve got all the O’Reilly Killing Series and a few of his WWII books. 😆 😆

    I thoroughly enjoyed all of them. The Kennedy one was probably my favorite and the Reagan one probably my least favorite, but I still enjoyed it. Killing the Rising Sun was a good read, because although I was familiar with Hiroshima to a degree, I knew very little about Nagasaki – one very harrowing story that for some reason, history has really overlooked. Somebody ought to do a movie on that tale.

    Those guys had balls of tungsten steel.

  328. Extensive reading usually puts me to sleep unless it is something I am fascinated about. That was problematic in grade school. I enjoy non fiction and generally skim over things that I find redundant. I prefer learning new stuff. Often it is just old stuff society has forgotten that is being rediscovered and so totally new to me.

  329. “I consider myself an above average writer but I can’t write fiction to save my life.”

    And with all the practice you had as an Obama supporter over the years. Imagine that 😀

  330. “Starting 1984, I realized why. Orwell was describing someone’s face and I realized I’m not observant enough to describe anything. “The yellow sun rose in the blue sky” is about the limit of my ability to write descriptive narrative.”

    It’s a fine line that can certainly be crossed and overdone when people try too hard.

    What amazes me about fiction writing is dialog.

  331. As I said on Facebook earlier today, Melissa McCarthy has ruined Sean Spicer for me. I can’t watch the dude anymore without thinking of her impersonation.

    It may surpass Tina Fey as Palin.

  332. Tex, how is his research in your opinion?

    That is what really got me with Cornelius Ryan. The guy did so damn much solid research and was so good at weaving the facts into an interesting story. His writings are a true gift to us all.

  333. “Melissa McCarthy has ruined Sean Spicer for me. I can’t watch the dude anymore without thinking of her impersonation. It may surpass Tina Fey as Palin.”

    You know what really sucks about that–and I don’t blame the actors–is that when the impersonator says something, people will remember it as said by the actual person.

    Do you have any idea how many people really think Palin actually said she can see Russia from her house?

  334. Tex, how is his research in your opinion?

    It’s amazing and what makes the books. But the research is done by another guy whose name escapes me at the minute. I believe O’Reilly actually pens the books, but the real work is the guy gathering the facts.

    Worth a read if you like recent history. I liked the Kennedy book because that was my child hood and they go into great depth about all the characters, from Kennedy to Sinatra. Plus I learned a great deal about the Bay of Pigs fiasco and Cuban Missile Crisis I didn’t know.

  335. I find a lot of the nonfiction we have today is too biased and often well sourced but then suffers by coming off more like a compilation of facts & opinions.
    I’ve always hated sci-fi and as far as the sub genre of dystopian I pretty much trend hypercritical of tgat which I find all too often to be thoroughly unoriginal.

  336. Do you have any idea how many people really think Palin actually said she can see Russia from her house?

    Yup, which speaks to how Fey nailed the impersonation. For many, the two became indistinguishable.

    Trump is a master of branding and image. We already know he told Spicer to change his wardrobe. But Spicer can’t change that high pitched voice which made him vulnerable to impersonation by a woman.

    The other issue is that parody is based in truth. Fey was effective because Palin was/is a nincompoop. Similarly, McCarthy is tapping into the impossible job Spicer has defending a clown who has no business in the White House. Spicer’s under the surface rage is beautifully lampooned by McCarthy.

  337. Some, in particular Tigre, may be interested to know I’m getting a bit tired of Morning Joe. They devote 90% of the first block to lecturing the White House and the GOP every day. Joe’s lectures have really become tiresome. A failed pol who took refuge in the media.

    I no longer watch it every day because by the time I get to it (at lunch), Trump has already done something that makes MoJo stale news.

  338. The notion that the Government Office of Ethics wants Conway investigated is ludicrous. She wasn’t hawking Ivanka merchandise. She was making a rhetorical point.


    If I were an enemy of USA, (Iran, North Korea), I would strike right now. Trump can’t find his buttcheeks with both hands. We are totally unprepared for an attack.

  339. Tex do you actually remember the assassination? I was only 2 years old. Weren’t you only 3 or 4?

    No, I have no memory of the assassination, but I do of what followed a year or two thereafter – as much as a little kid could understand. Actually, some of my first memories in life. My first memories of life are probably around 3, my age at the assassination. But they’re of eating dog food and my babysitter – not Presidential assassinations.

    I actually came away after reading of Kennedy a degree of respect for the man, and the distinct impression Kennedy had a really dark side too. Personally, he was really a scumbag. But he also seemed to have a degree of bravery feckless cowards like Clinton and Obama never had.

  340. If I were an enemy of USA, (Iran, North Korea), I would strike right now. Trump can’t find his buttcheeks with both hands. We are totally unprepared for an attack.

    Actually now would be the absolute worse time those parties could do something

  341. “Yup, which speaks to how Fey nailed the impersonation.”

    Sorry, but no…that’s not at all what it speaks to.

    It speaks to how utterly fucking stupid far too many people are.

  342. OK, I have been actively avoiding bringing some Poolman level conspiracy shit here, but Ace has been showing some pretty damn convincing stuff on the activities of the “Deep State” and how leftovers of the Obama administration and the Anti-Trump Intelligence Community are seriously out to fuck the democratically elected president.

    All the neocons that flipped to Hillary are losing their shit and the game is starting to be exposed. Anti-Trumper Bill Krystal has taken to Twitter

    So has Evan McMullen

    Not enough for you? Oh yeah, there’s more…

    This is some serious shit

  343. Make sure to notice the dates on those Tweets. They aren’t talking pre-election or hypotheticals. This is happening right now.

  344. Morning Joe is insufferably bad. Broken record, desperate hosts, lame lectures. That’s all of MSNBC. Don’t know how you take any of it seriously.

  345. I said many weeks ago Trump was a fool to fuck with the IC.

    Huck are you going so far as to say Obama is running a secret government?


    Yes folks were stupid to believe that Fey’s comments were Palin’s but I still say had Fey not captured the idiot so brilliantly it would not have gone that way. And remember some of Fey’s dialogue WAS lifted directly from Palin.

  346. I clearly wrote “leftovers of the Obama administration” and I clearly stated it isn’t only them.

    The people who continue to be left in place while Democrats sit with their thumbs up their asses during the confirmation process. Agency employees who make rogue twitter accounts and openly defy their elected boss. This is happening.

    We already know OFA has retooled to fight Trump. That isn’t just some paranoid Paul Sperry bullshit, we know it.

    We’ve known for months the Intelligence Community and the neocons that run it were not on board the Trump train. It is to the point they aren’t even trying to hide their insurrection. And why should they? The only people who would really be against it are 63 million voters….and that isn’t enough to matter. The press will aid them, the Democrats will aid them. Even many in the Republican party will aid them.

    Trump wants to topple the existing order. Too many see that as unacceptable.

    This should scare the fuck out of everyone.

  347. California is in a hell of a pinch. Secede or beg for federal monies to fix their imploding dams.

    Damn Rutherford, you Dims are hapless tools. 😆 😆 Talk about not being able to find both butt cheeks with two hands. Talks of impeachment, accusations of fascism while your clan is throwing bicycles through windows to curtain free speech, millions of marching vaginas….

    And you still think you’re the party of the intellect, do you?

  348. I find it funny people think the wheels are coming off the Trump Presidency…wishful thinking, followed by delusions.

    I conclude by reading headlines like this: After Likening Trump to Hitler, Journalists Upset They’re Not Getting Called on for Questions.

  349. I know folks disagree but this insurrection arises from putting someone wholly unsuitable into the Oval.

    This would not be happening with most of the 17 Trump vanquished. Shit, even Jim Gilmore would be doing better. Even Carly would be doing better. The only one I think would have had as rough a road as Trump is Ben Carson.

  350. Part of the problem is comments like Tex’s latest. This is not a shot at Tex but …

    THIS IS NOT A GAME!!

    Folks are following these developments like some sort of high school grudge match. The need for catharsis has to end. We are in deep shit.

    Bibi was fucking laughing at Trump today. There’s no respect there. We’re now a joke. I liked it better when BO was pissing Bibi off.

  351. Rough road? You’re making one egregious error after another…like these hapless saps. Which one goes off the roof first do you think? I vote for that little butt fucker down on the end. The goat fuckers will make use of pasty, fat ass first I reckon…

  352. No Rutherford, I don’t think Obama is RUNNING a shadow government, but I do think he set some of the mechanisms in motion on his way out. I do think he either has or is actively engaging with those who are attempting to subvert what our democracy has wrought, and I think he is more than happy to give them advice when asked.

    You think that motherfucker is just out windsurfing? Please…. He couldn’t go a week without running his mouth. He knows what’s going on.

    Everyone from the top down…EVERYONE…was in on the plan to maintain the status quo. Everyone except 63 million voters spread out over just the right areas.

  353. It’s a deadly game, Rutherford. There were millions of guns bought during the Obama Administration.

    You really think there was no plan to use them one day? You think they’re not going to come looking for your feckless ilk for payback. I know some hapless Libs that are going to die a gruesome death, probably soon.

    When a 30/30 hits the chest of a Progressive, it’s like a cannon hitting a watermelon. There ain’t nothing left but the splattered insides a little core dripping off the end.

  354. “I know folks disagree but this insurrection arises from putting someone wholly unsuitable into the Oval.”

    Does that make it acceptable?

    “Bibi was fucking laughing at Trump today. There’s no respect there. We’re now a joke. ”

    We’ve been telling you we’re a joke for years, man. Welcome to the party. Better late than never.

  355. There first time Kim Jong-Un shoots as much as a bottle rocket that comes within 500 miles of a U.S. shore, the only lip licking that will be going down is Kim Jong Un licking his lips to kiss his ass goodbye.

    The shit we got sitting in holes today doesn’t just fire bomb people. It removes mountains, thousand of times more powerful.

  356. Rutherford, you really need to learn ‘The Art of the Deal.’ 😆 😆 Now if we were all South Koreans, I might be a little paranoid. But we’re on the other side of the world. You really need to learn a little science, Rutherford.

    You ever wonder why a country no larger than the state of New Jersey, daily calling for its extermination by hostile forces surrounding it, is never carried forth.

    Because even crazy people like the Mad Mullahs have a innate understand of death by fervent heat.

    Like my wise mother once said when I blathered on about the Soviets having more nuclear bombs, “Tex, you only need a few when they’re pointed at the right people.” 😉

  357. Rutherford, had the deep state deemed Obama “unsuitable” how would you be reacting? Hell, before this month the only people even using the term “Deep State” were the Poolmen, and now Bill Krystal and others are openly embracing it.

    Remember, Obama the idealist dove started out winning a Nobel Peace Prize just because he talked a good game. How long did that last? He went on to make a failed attempt to keep troops in Iraq, we still have a presence in Afghanistan, he toppled the regime in Libya under the guise of the UNSC and Responsibility to Protect, and then he used that vacuum to run guns into Syria. War, war, war, war, war. Using “our unique capabilities” to bring stability around the world. That is wording right out of the neocon playbook and they are words right out of Obama’s mouth. You think that’s a coincidence?

    If you think Barack Obama wasn’t in on the IC/neocon game you’re a fucking fool. And there’s no question his 1st Sec. of State was. Hell, they all openly endorsed her for president.

    I could give a fuck about Donald Trump. I’d have preferred he were not our president. But he won the election. I don’t care about him but I do care about the system. And right now it is being grossly and overtly subverted on a massive scale. I don’t even think it’s the scale that has me so pissed off, but the blatancy of it and the fact that far too many are fine with it.

    To paraphrase Niemöller,

    First they came for the others, and I did nothing……

  358. Rutherford, there’s a lot of people in this world who should be taken seriously, but Kim Jong-X (meaning any of ’em) isn’t one of them. N. Korea acts out simply to seek attention, much like a child does. He’s a joke, his daddy was a joke, and whoever comes after him will be a joke.

    Like Tex said, unless you live in S. Korea they aren’t even worth a thought during your morning breakfast.

  359. You craven zombies blaming Trump and Trump voters for the Democray-cray insurrection gets me right here. What is it exactly that Trump is supposed to have done? Instructed the Russians to send a phishing missive to Podesta?

    Republicans need to stop being the mortified parent of the incorrigible demon child misbehaving in the restaurant and kick its fucking ass.

    I only hope Trump and Sessions know the full measure of the enemy and have the stomach for the fight

  360. R, you seem mighty unconcerned about the near treasonous actions of the unelected, subsersive, democrats embedded in the State Dept. and intel agencies. Why is that? You’re just swept up in the usual dumb dem “Trump is dangerous and illegitimate” narratives again because of course he’s working directly with The Rooooskies!!!!!! Oh, and MSNBC and tge tearful Chaz Maddow.

  361. Seen discussing the fact Elizabeth Warren is becoming the new face of the Dimocratic Party:

    She combines the unpopular policies of Obama with the unlikeability of HRC.

    😈

  362. As I was saying, Rutherford….

    N.S.A. Gets More Latitude to Share Intercepted Communications

    “WASHINGTON — In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.
    […]
    “Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch signed the new rules, permitting the N.S.A. to disseminate “raw signals intelligence information,” on Jan. 3, after the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., signed them on Dec. 15, according to a 23-page, largely declassified copy of the procedures.

    “Previously, the N.S.A. filtered information before sharing intercepted communications with another agency, like the C.I.A. or the intelligence branches of the F.B.I. and the Drug Enforcement Administration. The N.S.A.’s analysts passed on only information they deemed pertinent, screening out the identities of innocent people and irrelevant personal information.

    “Now, other intelligence agencies will be able to search directly through raw repositories of communications intercepted by the N.S.A. and then apply such rules for “minimizing” privacy intrusions.”

    You might think this is the type of thing that is common sense and needs to be done. If so, why did he wait 8 years to do it?

    Oh yeah…Obama and his people are in on this bullshit.

  363. The bottom line is…Obama set it up so that more people have inside information regarding who is talking to whom. More people means it is easier to cover up who is leaking that information. And it doesn’t even matter if the discussion is legal or not, as we are seeing. All that has to be leaked is that people talked. We’ve seen that with Manafort, Flynn, and there are others. Lots of leaks saying discussions took place but for some reason the leaks don’t mention evidence of illegal activity.

  364. Remember when Democrats were front and center on hating the shadowy folks of the intelligence community. They demanded oversight,disclosure and the curtailing of actions ranging from FBI wiretaps to the CIA and other alphabets whacking foreign leaders.
    TODAY? They’re the Orwellian cheerleaders telling us all that we should respect the fear the IC is seemingly willing to foment and that the fear and disorder is good.

  365. Trump is dangerous and illegitimate

    Words matter. I’ve NEVER said he’s illegitimate and in fact have pissed off Facebook friends by refuting such nonsense. He was elected fair and square and I’ve noted many times here that the Russians had nothing to do with it.

    Flynn’s discussion of sanctions may be a different can of worms.

  366. If so, why did he wait 8 years to do it?

    I’ve got a wild ass guess. Maybe Obama and company felt all the IC related agencies needed as much free reign as possible to compensate for an unprepared president?

    What is MORE troubling are reports that the IC is keeping info from Trump for fear he will divulge it (Twitter, etc.).

  367. Huck I have zero problem calling out hypocrisy so long as it isn’t a one trick pony sort of deal.

    When a comment thread goes on and on about hypocrisy and totally ignores the bizarre spectacle of today’s press conference then we’ve got a problem.

  368. FWIW, I find Time magazine’s latest cover quite offensive. A Time cover should not look like a cover of fucking MAD magazine. Even Donald deserves more respect than that.

    What many of you partisan hacks fail to recognize is that the office of the presidency is worthy of respect. I’m old enough to remember a time when polite society recognized this.

  369. near treasonous actions of the unelected, subsersive, democrats embedded in the State Dept. and intel agencies.

    I like how you slipped “Democrats” in there. Folks who stay employed across administrations cannot be assumed to be Dem or GOP. Have you not heard the phrase “career professionals”, particularly in reference to folks at the FBI?

    I’m getting the impression the government writ large is trying to undermine Trump. And yes it’s scary.

  370. “When a comment thread goes on and on about hypocrisy and totally ignores the bizarre spectacle of today’s press conference then we’ve got a problem.”

    Didn’t see it.

  371. “Didn’t see it.”

    Nobody saw it. It happened in the middle of the work day. But its a pattern with you guys.

    The president took questions for 90 minutes. He answered the shit out of most of the questions that I saw. He also excoriated the press as he is want to do. And he said some stupid impulsive shit as is his tendency. It was 10 times as informative and interesting as a typical stammering Obama slobberfest, and 20 times more real than the chats Obama had with all the comedians and the idiot who bathed in cereal.

    Be sure not to ignore the bizarre spectacle now.

  372. I dont know whether to laugh or vomit.

    SHARPTON: Looks like there is real trouble in the White House. This whole question around the forced resignation and I emphasize the forced resignation, of the National Security Adviser Flynn, General Flynn, seems to really be something that could be a serious threat to the presidency of Donald Trump. From the beginning, there have been those that have observed his softness at best with Vladimir Putin, his connection to Russia. But let’s not forget Central to this is the intelligence report that they tried to interfere and have direct influence on an America election. Our concern should be that any time a foreign government particularly a combative one can influence our election and have direct contact and some talks of negotiation with one in that administration, we need to be clear that is a real threat and that we ought to dig deep until we hit dirt here and find out what is going on. So that the American people won’t be trumped.

    JOYNER: Won’t be trumped. Good one rev. So you think we’ll have enough to impeach? Should I get excited yet?

    SHARPTON: You should begin. Don’t get excited yet just begin. Because the beginning of this is that if there was dialogue and negotiations with the Russians which is clearly against the law and clearly an act that can not be pardoned. If the president knew while it was going on and did not stop it or in some way authorized it that can be impeachable. So it’s going to come down to what he knew and when did he know it. Cause it is clear that it was done by Flynn and possibly others. What many of us are wondering is how could they do this without the knowledge of the president if not the tacit support. That is where you can get into where you can start getting excited and start doing high fives with Bill Bellamy. -The Tom Joyner Morning Show, 2/15/16

    “Good one rev.” Vomit it is.

  373. “I like how you slipped “Democrats” in there. Folks who stay employed across administrations cannot be assumed to be Dem or GOP. Have you not heard the phrase “career professionals”, particularly in reference to folks at the FBI?”

    I pray this is a joke.

  374. Rutherford it’s undeniable that the Left has new found moisture for the IC while at the sane time preaching they’re dangerous abd serious people We tge People should cower before as we pay homage to their awesomeness.
    That my friend is fucked up.

  375. “Watch a few excerpts and then tell me if it strikes you as presidential.”

    If he’s acting weird that’s one thing. I don’t care if the president is or is not acting “presidential”.

  376. Rutherford, none of you on the left are getting it yet.

    People care whether or not Trump does what he says he was going to do. As long as he does so through legal means (and for me, works it through the legislative process), that’s all that matters.

    People want jobs to sustain their families. They want to feel safe. They want to be able to think America is great again. They don’t give a damn about a bunch of pretty talk.

    We’ve had 8 years of a nice orator who could woo the masses from the teleprompter. We’re over it.

  377. We’ve had 8 years of a nice orator who could woo the masses from the teleprompter. We’re over it.

    Pretty much, except I might remove the word nice. Obama surprised me with the degree of thug and pettiness in him. And his wife was just a racist, angry black woman – perhaps even more arrogant than The One.

    Off the cuff, Barack Obama made 43 sound like Patrick Henry – ignorant, stuttering, poorly read bench warmer.

  378. “Watch a few excerpts and then tell me if it strikes you as presidential.”

    I got no problem with it. Fuck the petty catty bullshit. You need to stop getting yourself swept up in the left-wing manufactured, manipulative drama being spewed by the idiots on the boob tube. Their agenda and strategies are for losers. Some adult perspective is needed for you guys to regaining powers so you can revert to segregating and ruining the country on the backs of the white working class people you hate.

  379. Obama is dangerous, not so much personally but because of the people behind him. He has a history of taking out political opponents in races for office. Supporters find compromising information and publicize it at strategically advantageous times.

    Obama is not a nice man. He wears a handsome mask , as we know.

    If it is true he now is in charge of a shadow government a la Britain, people attempting to discredit Trump are embedded within the government. Trump had best investigate and clean house quickly.

    A guest on KFAB, Omaha believes the Flynn case is more dangerous and complex than it appears. Flynn was still a private citizen when eaves droppers listened to the conversations.

    If they could do it to Flynn, they could do it to any of us.

    Since Flynn lied to Pence, he had to go, but that is a separate issue.

  380. The biggest lefty in my office said Trump mopped the floor with the lefties and lefty media. I gotta watch this thing.

    Hey R, thinking Trump is going be a potted plant is going to be the death of you. You guys are soooo fucking used to controlling the media and messaging. . . and pud pullin’. . . you can’t see anything outside of your bubble. And you’re being played.

    Turn. Off. The. Tee. Vee. Or, at least try and objective view instead of playing along with the histrionics. This ain’t partisan hackery. You’re totally lost right now.

  381. Huh? What?

    I was just doing the dumb MSNBC “do you disavow” game tailored for its feeble-minded viewers. Are you saying he’s rumored to be a pedophile?

  382. No, I was just demonstrating how easy it is to cast doubt in peoples’ minds. I made it up. Katy Curic for one is good at it.

  383. I can’t even begin to respond to the reaction here re the press conference. Hopefully those defending it really didn’t watch it. He does not understand he is the president. He still thinks he’s a real estate mogul or Apprentice host.

    Gang, EVERY person shifts from campaign to governing. Clinton, both Bushes, Obama. Everyone. You can play a campaign speech and a presser back to back and see the difference.

    YOU CAN’T DO THAT WITH TRUMP!!! The dude is still talking about his nonexistent electoral landslide. Let me repeat HE IS FUCKING CRAZY!!!! Not so crazy that he can’t marginally manage a big company. Not so crazy that he can’t host a reality TV show. Those allow for a wide margin of eccentricity. THE PRESIDENCY DOES NOT!!!!

    I feel like I’m talking to a bunch of 10 year olds who giggle when Billy razzes the teacher. This ain’t fucking elementary school!!!

    On a different note, why is everyone assuming Pence did not knowingly lie on Face the Nation? Why is there a broad consensus that Pence was duped? I see no reason to believe he was not completely in on this.

    Open ended question: should we read anything from Harward turning down the NSA job?

  384. Where’s the prosecution of Flynn? Nowhere to be found right now so WTF is all the congressional investigations shit?!

    Also filed under WTF is WTF is up with the liberal media bitching about Trumps “campaign style” event. Hello Obama???

  385. The only one reacting to the press conference is you. Overreacting as usual. Youre all in a flap because nobody saw it and nobody cares about what the left thinks is “presidential.” Twenty years later slimy Bill Clinton is sneaking on planes to conspire with the slimy Obama DOJ to cover the slimy next president’s crimes and you want to play psychiatrist by repeating your mindless crazy talk without offering a shred of substance or insight. Nary a shred.

    We suffered your fool for 8 years now its your turn. Everyone plainly sees that the left is swirling in a frenzy of disbelief that Trump fucking won. He won Wisconsin dummy. Pennsylvania. Michigan. He pulled off the impossible and you still cant believe it.

    Obama said do it for me and the people said bye you!

    THIS WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!

  386. “I can’t even begin to respond to the reaction here re the press conference. Hopefully those defending it really didn’t watch it. He does not understand he is the president. He still thinks he’s a real estate mogul or Apprentice host.”

    Oh, quit being a fucking drama queen, MSNBC Boy. Jesus. So easily manipulated.

  387. “Gang, EVERY person shifts from campaign to governing. Clinton, both Bushes, Obama. Everyone.”

    Phew. Talk about alternative facts.

  388. CNN is fake news. Seriously I just finished watching a whine fest over State Dept shake-up. The CNN folks simply don’t get that the perpetual elitist douche club has been closed now for the next 47 months.

  389. Where’s the prosecution of Flynn?

    Dude just resigned a few days ago. What’s your rush? Reports are he lied to FBI.

    Question-is prosecution up to Sessions? If so, it won’t happen.

  390. Hello Obama???

    I don’t know what you’re smoking. Obama’s press conferences looked like press conferences, not incoherent stream of consciousness shit resembling zero evolution from the campaign style.

  391. I’m getting worried Rutherford won’t vote for Trump in 2020.

    If that was meant to make me laugh, it failed. Not to worry. There will be no Trump candidacy in 2020. After almost a month in, this is not sustainable.

  392. I’m gonna watch it too. I have to.

    But even before I do, all I want to see is if Trump communicates a message, in a language that the people he needs onboard accept, works to further his interest. Fuck the press, fuck Rutherford, fuck the hysterical fucking fucks. Is he effective? The more it drives the dumb lefties bananas, the more I know he’s doing something right.

    Methinks he’s taking apart his real opponent, the liberal media, apart one piece at a time, one day at a time. The “don’t get it” is just mindblowing.

    Gawl. Transitioning from campaigning to office with Obama? Obama? Obama????

  393. Trump communicates a message, in a language that the people he needs onboard accept, works to further his interest.

    He barely discussed his agenda or policy. If Huck finds this presser a Trump win I’ll be sorely let down. Tigre won’t admit to the clusterfuck even if he sees it with his own eyes.

  394. Rutherford is back to status quo. I was beginning to worry Rutherford was actually starting to make some sense after eight insufferable years.

    Nothing a crushing election result won’t fix. 😈

  395. @ Rutherford my comment Hello Obama??? was all about BHO’s constant campaign style speeches for his entire tenure. THEN the media was all about O’s energy,opens and comfort level. NOW Trump is a piece of shit hiding amongst friendly faces.
    I haven’t said a fucking thing about the presser.

  396. The only reason Rutherford sounded reasonable for a few months was because his tv said dissent was ok. In other words, a primary.

  397. Rutherford having reviewed the presser I will gladly disappoint you and tell you you’re being an idiot. I personally do not like Trumps “style” in fact I find it quite grating;however,he does actually know what he is doing and it is displayed on many levels.
    You might as well just shoot yourself or something because it is telling that you’re personally in for levels of angst and discomfort you’re going to have a hard time dealing with. The media is absolutely besides itself over its inability to get any traction or credibility restored. They are jumping head first into a pile of manure hell bent on a childish adversarial engagement with a guy that pretty much wrote the book (albeit with a ghost writer) on how to make you look like the punk.
    The media has proven they are failures and their prophet Barack Obama actually set the cornerstone for what is going to happen to oh so many of their alleged “unnamed sources close to…” When that starts to happen watch on as they totally forget the Obama AP stuff etc and really ramp up the Orwell rhetoric.

  398. The networks are confirming Trump’s charge that they are lying. Trump doesn’t care what the press or people like Rutherford think. He is talking to his supporters who believe him over what they see on television.

    I haven’t seen the press conference, but maybe I will later. Trump’s supporters and many others trust Trump over the reporters. They are losing, and had better change their ways.

  399. I have just watched American Experience, the shootings at Ruby Ridge. Janet Reno and Eric Holder were responsible as the peak authorities, and their incompetence killed many people.

    I hope Janette Reno died a painful death.

  400. Michigan is booming. Just had beers with auto suppliers and a civil egineer. Some of them from old school Dem families (known them for years). The consensus was Hail Trump!

  401. Circa says that just before he left office Obama expanded the power of the National Security Agency so it could share intercepted phone conversations and other communications with sixteen other agencies.

    They cite a writer who believes the source of the leaks rests with the people working for those organizations.

  402. Some thoughts as I listen to the infamous presser.

    5 minutes in, it sounds like classic Trump being Trump.

    Yeah he’s still talking about his electoral college win. I don’t find it shocking that he is still needing to show his legitimacy to a bunch of crybabies and media that still challenge his legitimacy. I take this as the Trump version of “I won” What I find more silly is that a guy gets his 1 chance to ask a question and his question is to point out Trump is wrong about his margin of victory. If his electoral victory doesn’t matter to anyone but him, then why are other people discussing it? I like the follow up later where Trump jokingly asks that same guy for confirmation on something else being correct or not.

    I’m hearing a Trump version of Obama. “Waiting on congress to stop delaying things.” “I inherited a mess.” “I’m fixing the mistakes of the past administration.” The message is what we’ve heard before, it’s just coming through in Trumpspeak. (yeah I started reading 1984)

    HA! I love the part where he accurately predicts how the media was going to spin that presser. And then less than 90 seconds later he has the whole place cracking up–including the guy he is ripping a new asshole! He’s funny and personable and even when he’s being a dick you can’t help but laugh sometimes. And they weren’t laughing at him, they were laughing with him.

    This stupid motherfucker Jim Acosta is sniveling about Trump undermining the credibility of the press as if the press still has any credibility to undermine. Rutherford, you know as well as anyone that we’ve been screaming about the media for years before Donald Trump came along. The press has been digging its own grave since Rathergate.

    No, he didn’t talk much about policies. I also didn’t hear anyone asking him about his policies. If his policies are so important to discuss, then why isn’t anyone asking out them? He mentioned stuff he’s working on, he mentioned he could do more if his people were in place. Then he opened it up for questions, which he answered–including the ones that were repeated 2 and 3 and 4 times.

    Question: “Will there be a response to the Russian provocation?” Paraphrased answer: “None of your fucking business. You’ll see my response to things if and when they come, not before.”

    At times I could almost hear Ted Cruz telling him “Focus, Breathe, Donald. Breathe”

    “This country was seriously divided under President Obama. Donald Trump didn’t come along and divide this country.” I love that one for an ending.

    I’m not going to call this a win for Trump. I don’t like him or his style and I’ve never felt it’s a winning style. I’ve made that clear since the primaries. But the fact is he won by being Donald Trump, and this was Donald Trump. He didn’t lose anyone he already had and he didn’t gain anyone he’s already lost. He came out and said he was speaking to the American people and the press was invited too. To me, Donald Trump is like various forms of art–if you don’t get it, then it’s not meant for you, anyway. It’s not really for me, but I can appreciate it at times.

    Trump said the media was going to lose their shit over this presser, the media lost its shit over this presser, now here you are as part of the echo chamber losing your shit over this presser.

  403. The only reason Rutherford sounded reasonable for a few months was because his tv said dissent was ok.

    I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

    If you were such a genius you would have voted for ANYONE besides a narcissistic assclown in the primary when you had the chance. You were so embarrassed by your foolishness you expressed your embarrassment right here on this blog.

    I on the other hand sit exactly where I said I would. The election was a win/win (or lose/lose) for me. I could not go wrong because I did not vote for the corrupt witch nor the assclown. So I can … and I will sit in judgment on your sorry ass.

    Thank you and goodnight.

  404. I used to work with a guy like Trump. Him repeating the “landslide” win is calculated. It’s an easy way of rubbing the asshole Leftist’s face in the dogshit Obama left by continually reminding them of it.

    And it obviously works…

    Trump has all the right enemies. That’s how you know Trump is effective.

    Most importantly, the military loves Trump. These turds from the Left become more irrelevant by the day.

    http://www.salon.com/2017/02/02/military-convoy-seen-flying-a-trump-flag-belonged-to-navy-seals/

  405. You might as well just shoot yourself or something because it is telling that you’re personally in for levels of angst and discomfort you’re going to have a hard time dealing with.

    Oh believe me, I’m already full of angst.

    Many of you think I’m defending the media. I’m not. Yes, their credibility is badly damaged. And this is the worst time in history for that to happen. They are our window to the truth. If they can’t be trusted we are screwed because the POTUS is delusional.

  406. Huck let’s get specific. How bout the guy who asked about antisemitism in America and prefaced the question by telling Trump that he did NOT think Trump was an anti-Semite. And then … Trump lost his shit.

    When the question was rephrased by another reporter suddenly Trump regained his composure.

    Honest to God, if I viewed the presidency as performance art, I would LOVE Trump. He’s entertaining as hell. But this ain’t art that I don’t get. It’s the leader of the free world.

  407. They are our window to the truth. If they can’t be trusted we are screwed because the POTUS is delusional.

    Delusional? You’re charging somebody with delusional when you cried over Obama beginning to heal the planet, usher in world peace, and reducing the debt?

    Rutherford. Your account for credibility was in default eight years ago. The media fawned over your loser for eight years. Trump doesn’t need to undermine the media.

    The media has been fake news since the days of Cronkite.

  408. A week or two ago I posted a video of all the reporters laughing at Trump juxtaposed with his election night win. I didn’t post it just for you guys. I enjoyed that video.

    While I’ve been lucky to always have someone in my corner, I know what it feels like to be dismissed and underestimated. I’ve been defying expectation my entire life. I LOVE the fact that Trump showed a bunch of smug assholes up. And I AM gobsmacked by the media’s belief that they are some kind of authority in light of how badly they got this election wrong. They are not the least bit humbled.

    But I doubt how much good can get done if more than 50% of Trump’s effort goes into rubbing shit in the faces of the naysayers.

  409. “I on the other hand sit exactly where I said I would. The election was a win/win (or lose/lose) for me. I could not go wrong because I did not vote for the corrupt witch nor the assclown. So I can … and I will sit in judgment on your sorry ass.”

    You did what Alfie and Huck told you to do. What you call your judgement is really your suggestibility. You cast an inexplicable protest vote no more principled than the idiot protesters who didnt bother to vote at all.

    The media lost all credibility for half the country before Trump came along. Trump is hitting the rest of you over the head with it because clearly you havent gotten the message yet.

  410. “How bout the guy who asked about antisemitism in America and prefaced the question by telling Trump that he did NOT think Trump was an anti-Semite. And then … Trump lost his shit.”<\i>

    Theres something about life that you dont seem to understand. Trump was dead wrong there. But he doesnt have to be right all the time to be right.

  411. “If you were such a genius you would have voted for ANYONE besides a narcissistic assclown in the primary when you had the chance.”

    Huh? I’m thrilled with Trump so far. He is killing it! There hasn’t been optimism like this in Michigan since Ronald. Sure…it could all go poof! But can’t you let a nigga enjoy a picnic?

  412. My last job I had to work with this mess:

    http://www.wusa9.com/mb/news/local/gang-recruiting-seen-as-early-as-elementary-school/409171264

    I see it has gotten worse.

    This is a direct result of being weak illegal immigration.

    One of the gangs I worked with would slash the Achilles heel of unsuspecting soccer moms as an initiation rite.

    This gang is often suburban while being ruthless. Some of them refused to speak English and we had no idea how old they were.

  413. “But I doubt how much good can get done if more than 50% of Trump’s effort goes into rubbing shit in the faces of the naysayers.”

    A big part of the alpha-male schtick is teaching everyone that you ARE the alpha, and bitch-slapping those who seek to undermine your authority is top priority. Legitimate criticism can be either addressed or not, but blatant attempts at de-legitimizing his presidency must be dealt with immediately and with dispatch.

    Later he will have to deal with the likes of John-I-wrecked-five-airplanes-McCain – but for now, the press.

  414. James: “I hope Janette Reno died a painful death.”

    Me, too. An FBI recruiter and I nearly squared off for a fistfight at a “career-day” at the college where I was taking some undergrad EE classes. It was ’round about ’99, and Waco and Ruby Ridge were still fresh. I think it was because I told him the reason I didn’t want to work for the FBI was that I “had to consider my reputation.”

    Tsk, tsk, tsk … such thin skin, these Feds …

  415. If you were such a genius you would have voted for ANYONE besides a narcissistic assclown in the primary when you had the chance.

    I did, actually, but the irony of you saying this after 8 years of you fawning over the crease of Obama’s pants while he delivered speeches brimming with “I me my” just pegged the irony meter to toxic levels.

    Many of you think I’m defending the media. I’m not. Yes, their credibility is badly damaged. And this is the worst time in history for that to happen. They are our window to the truth. If they can’t be trusted we are screwed because the POTUS is delusional.

    The media is our window to the truth? Are you for real, esse? The media has NEVER been about the truth. It’s been about what IT decides to CALL the truth.

    And no PRESIDENT has been as delusional as our last one.

  416. From my FB feed this morning:

    The latest report from Martin Simpson, the Cautious Optimism Roving Correspondent for Affairs (and stuff) has been filed……

    Advice for my lefty friends on how to react to Donald Trump

    No, none of my lefty friends has asked my opinion on this topic. But should that stop me from giving it?

    After all, no sentient being anywhere has ever asked, “I wonder what Ashley Judd thinks about this political issue?” or “Why won’t alleged funnyman Al Franken give us his criteria for a successful cabinet pick?” or “How long must we wait for Meryl Streep’s next condescending lecture?”

    Yet those savants have shared with us their deathless wisdom. So why shouldn’t I do the same? Here goes:

    Tip 1: If you start with the outrage meter pegged to 11 for every garden-variety bonehead comment that Trump makes, you’re going to lose your voice, burst a blood vessel, and be thoroughly ignored when Trump does something truly egregious. One of my favorite Simpson’s moments was when the mayor unveiled a presidential statue; the townspeople expected Abraham Lincoln, but Springfield could only afford Jimmy Carter. When the statue is revealed, one character points and says, “He’s history’s greatest monster!” Trump is likely to be an inconsistent president, but he’s not going to be a Stalin, or a Mao, or an Asmodeus, Destroyer of Men. Don’t be the boy who cried Carter.

    Tip 2: Stop calling yourself The Resistance. It’s creepy, and self-dramatizing, and it makes you sound like a 15-year old. (And not a popular, well-adjusted 15-year old.) Trump is not a Star Wars villain or a dictator, and he didn’t come to power by force. He’s there largely because the right track/wrong track numbers last year were upside down, and you ran a shrieking harpy with the personal warmth of a dyspeptic time-share saleswoman and a plan to double-down on the policies that had produced the afore-mentioned ballooning wrong track numbers. Look in the mirror. Wait, first pull off your ski mask, and then look in the mirror. Doesn’t that black trench coat look ridiculous? The Resistance? Really? C’mon.

    Tip 3: Don’t think you are going to get any mileage with most Americans by pointing out how badly Trump is treating the press. Do you not know how despised the press is? Their approval rating is just above ISIS, and below testicular cancer. (The internals are even worse: CNN is only ahead of chlamydia because of Jake Tapper, and his numbers are eroding, so…) Work on improving the accuracy of press coverage, and you might eventually earn a public hearing again. Until then, the press is the anti-Sally Field: We don’t like them. We really don’t like them.

    Tip 4: Consider not insulting everyone you are trying to persuade. Most people voted for Trump not BECAUSE he made crude comments or verbal gaffes or behaved boorishly, but DESPITE those qualities. He promised to reverse the direction of the last 8 years, and you need to come to grips with why so many people found that prospect enticing enough that they would vote for someone with Trump’s flaws, as the first step to a mature reconsideration of your own past actions and positions. Or, you can just scream that we’re all racist/sexist/bigoted moronic evil-doers, and see how that works. (Spoiler alert: President Trump.)

    Tip 5: We remember Obama. And we remember that you spent the last 8 years getting him his pipe and his fuzzy slippers, and giving him a soothing tongue-bath each time he said something like, “I’m going to stop the rise of the oceans,” and “I don’t know the difference between a rectal thermometer and the other kind, but I’ve come up with the best health plan ever,” and “I don’t know what makes a rifle a semi-automatic, or which end goes in the rectum, but I know exactly how many guns you should have,” and “Thank you for this well-deserved Nobel Peace Prize.” If you now complain that Trump is a narcissist, we are just going to laugh at you.

  417. I don’t wish a painful death on anyone. I think the afterlife will be punishment enough for all the evil doers. Besides, I don’t want to block any blessing coming my way. Forgive us just as we forgive them is how my scripture reads.

  418. That was funny Pfessor.

    BIC, I wish more than we few could read that.

    Poolman, you are a better man than I. I don’t lose sleep wishing for bad ends, nor do I gloat. However, some people’s experiencing bad deaths gives me some satisfaction. Janet Reno deserved to suffer for the pain she inflicted on others.

    Rutherford, we don’t need the bi coastal window to the world. We can create our own.

  419. Yes, most of the military likes Trump. Most of the left dislikes the military and as I have demonstrated, they are willing to let our soldiers die if it serves their purpose.

    Thus, Trump is in a way, a military revenge against the left.
    He does and says things which make me cringe, but he is keeping his promises. The latest is the Keystone pipe line.

    Watching the press sputter is satisfying for the short term.

  420. James, it can be a tough row to hoe but gets easier the more that ground is worked. 🙂

    “But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.” – Jesus

    The example is so awesome and empowering. Too often we get in our own way. Pride. Ego.

  421. A big part of the alpha-male schtick is teaching everyone that you ARE the alpha

    Would you agree Norman Schwarzkopf was an alpha male? Does Donald remind you of Norman?

    Alpha isn’t meant to stand for asshole.