Russia and the US Presidential Elections

The country is abuzz over the recently-released de-classified version of the Intelligence Community (IC) report on “Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections“.  The report, a compilation of CIA, FBI, and ODNI investigations, asserts that Russia attempted to influence the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election by various means.  To support such a claim, the report offers little more than circumstantial evidence.  The lack of substantial evidence, however, is the least of the problems that should be found with this report.  The greater issue, and one that will likely be ignored, is that Russia has been doing much of what the report claims, for years–including the 2012 US Presidential election.

While not getting deep into the methods used in the report, it is worth noting up front that all the public is permitted to see is the de-classified version.  The very first bit of writing in the report tells us that they cannot tell us everything because a lot of it is classified and part of national security secrets.  Of course, what is being kept secret is how they actually reached the conclusions in the report.

The Intelligence Community rarely can publicly reveal the full extent of its knowledge or the precise bases for its assessments, as the release of such information would reveal sensitive sources or methods and imperil the ability to collect critical foreign intelligence in the future.

Thus, while the conclusions in the report are all reflected in the classified assessment, the declassified report does not and cannot include the full supporting information, including specific intelligence and sources and methods.

Were this an academic paper submitted by an undergraduate student, it would receive a failing grade and scathing comments in the margins about the lack of methodological data.

What we do know is that the so-called evidence of direct Russian involvement in the actual hacking of DNC computers did not stem from FBI or CIA analyses of those computers.  In fact, neither the FBI nor the CIA ever looked at those computers at all.  Instead, the computers were looked at by a private 3rd party group who gave its investigative conclusions to the IC.  Why didn’t anyone from the government look at those computers, and what methods did the 3rd party investigative team use?  Good questions.  The FBI alleges the DNC refused to let them look and the DNC alleges the FBI never asked to look.  What’s the truth?–who knows.  Again, were this a student research paper it would be returned rife with red ink.

The IC report offers a variety of “Key Judgments”, the first of which is that Russia has increased its “longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order”.  Yet, while admitting this is a “longstanding” Russian policy, the report conveniently fails to mention just how far back that policy goes.  And we know that it goes back to at least the 2012 US Presidential elections, when Russia was asserting the elections were rigged.  Back then, the pro-government Russian group, Izvestia, claimed:

The procedure for the election of US President November 6, 2012 (prior to the day of voting) does not comply with the international principles of the organization of the electoral process. The principles of universal and equal suffrage, the authenticity and validity of the election, transparency and openness of elections provided by the US authorities is not satisfactory. (Translated using Google Translate)

In other words–your election doesn’t pass our smell test.  If that isn’t an attempt to “undermine the US-led liberal democratic order” then what is?

Part of the circumstantial evidence of Russian meddling is that it displayed clear favoritism in the outcome.

Putin publicly indicated a preference for President-elect Trump’s stated policy to work with Russia, and pro-Kremlin figures spoke highly about what they saw as his Russia-friendly positions on Syria and Ukraine. Putin publicly contrasted the President-elect’s approach to Russia with Secretary Clinton’s “aggressive rhetoric.”

The United States is inarguably the most powerful and influential nation on the planet with a long history of challenging Russian and Soviet hegemony.  Is there a time in recent history when Russia did not display a clear favorite in a US Presidential election?  It sure wasn’t in 2012, when Russian Prime Minister, Dmitri Medvedev, exclaimed, “I am glad that the man who considers Russia the number one enemy will not be president. That’s ridiculous, some kind of paranoia. Obama is a known, predictable partner.”  To juxtapose just how different were the positions of 2012 Republican candidate Mitt Romney and sitting-President Barack Obama, the former went on record calling Russia our greatest geopolitical foe, while the latter was caught on a hot mic promising greater flexibility in pro-Russian policies after the election.

The most important portion of the 2017 IC report is also the least covered–while the computers of private election entities were infiltrated, official electronic election machines were not.  There is absolutely no proof, or claim, of Russian involvement in the voting or vote tallying process.  In fact, the report concludes, “DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.”  In the 25-page report, the word “tallying” appears a mere two times, both times in a single sentence twice repeated.  That’s it.

To be clear, there is little doubt that Russia did everything the IC report claims it did.  But what exactly did Russia do that it hasn’t done in the past?  The answer seems to be “very little”.  The IC report concludes that Russia will take what it learned in 2016 and apply it to future US elections.  But it has already done that, applying what it learned in 2012 to 2016.  Russia has displayed a history of questioning the legitimacy of US elections, yet this is the first time it’s being called subversive.  Russia has displayed a history of declaring its preferences in the outcome of US elections, yet this is the first time it’s being called subversive.  The only difference between 2012 and 2016 is the alleged cyber intrusion–a difference that is so minuscule that it is neither substantiated by actual IC investigation, nor is it said to have affected the actual electoral process.  In fact, the exact opposite is claimed.

If the proof of Russian meddling is in the pudding, it’s a sparse portion of a stale dessert that is several years old.  Donald Trump may well have benefitted from Russian influence in our 2016 election, but if this report is proof of that, then it must also be concluded that Barack Obama benefitted from it in 2012.

And there sure aren’t any Intelligence Community reports alleging that, are there?

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676 thoughts on “Russia and the US Presidential Elections

  1. Getting back to the proof of fla…rth. Oh WAIT! 😛

    This is really good stuff, Huck. I didn’t even know a large part of this. Great digging…I can’t make a single red mark, except for your lack of margins and no semi colon – or something like that. LOL

  2. Excellent piece, Huck.

    Ex-intelligence operative, Mike Morell said on Face the Nation today that when an IC report uses the phrase “with high confidence” that is code for very good evidence for the conclusion, even if not spelled out in the unclassified version. I’m just putting that out there.

    Again I wish Gorilla could come here and pipe in with whatever public disclosure he could give us. Maybe I’ll reach out to him to pay us a visit.

  3. On a semi related note: FTN’s John Dickerson got into a shouting match today with Reince Priebus. Chuck Todd had a similar shouting match recently.

    I think we are going to see more of this as the MSM displays its resentment about losing credibility with the American people.

  4. You are good, Huck. Your students are lucky to have you. You didn’t write much I didn’t already know, but you explain as well as anyone could why I believe the Russians and not our own government.

  5. Trump embraces Brexit so of course he and Farage are BFF’s.

    The Obama bust thing was another petty conservative gripe – the boy who cried wolf – so when real wolves like Benghazi raised their head, many didn’t listen to the cry babies.

    Libs are now suffering the consequences of a similar playbook. They whined about Trayvon, lied about Ferguson and now fed up Americans have stopped listening.

  6. The Carnegie Moscow Center says Russian television and social media made Russians more knowledgable about the campaign than Americans were Most rooted for Trump. They like red states share many of his attitudes and values.

    Russians will expect Trump to keep promises he never made.

  7. The US has meddled in more elections and governments than any other country before us. Today the biggest meddler is Israel. Who do you think we farm our intelligence out to?

  8. Heaven forbid the US government blame Israel for anything.

    I listen to a podcast called Trumpcast, an anti-Trump propaganda production. The guest last week was a mental health professional saying Trump suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. All was going fine until she suggested Bibi Netanyahu suffers from the same thing. Suddenly the co-host intervened and moved the guest on to her next point.

    Anyone who speaks critically of Bibi or Israel MUST be an antisemite, right Tigre?

  9. I stated if I were forced to bet, I’d put my money on Russia, but that I’d also put some down on Israel.

    They’d be my #2 pick.

    As I said in the post, I believe Russia did what was alleged. I just don’t like the “because we said so” form of evidence we’re being given. And that has little to do with who is delivering it.

  10. I’m certain all these world leaders get their marching orders from the same source. Like professional wrestling, their actions are all scripted. Actors.

    Rutherford, here is Icke explaining our reality through his interpretation to date. Take the good and let go of the bad. We’re all on that learning curve. 🙂

    Reality Is An Illusion – David Icke

  11. My speculation based on what I have read is that Trump was popular because he shared many Russian values. The government believed Hillary would win but advertising Trump diverted interest from Russian elections for which the government hoped the turn out would be scant.

    Hillary’s victory would be used to demonstrate the corrupt nature of American politics. I am sure Russians were invading our internet system more to make a political point than to insure a Trump victory. If they fed information to Wikileaks with emphasis on Hillary’s campaign it was because the Republicans were better defended.

    This is just my opinion unsupported by many facts.

    I like Rabbit’s video.

  12. I’m surprised Rutherford didn’t comment on this, or I missed it. Watch three libs, one masquerading as Conservative, get their lies shoved in their faces, including the hack Mitchell and the insufferable Chuck U. Todd.

    Santelli is great…

  13. There are so many predictive programming hints trump will be assassinated. It is in video clips with freudian slips and hollywood programming going back a couple decades.

    If it does happen then know it is part of the kabuki theater.

  14. My wife and I watched little of the Golden Globe awards because of the obvious political overtones. However, we were lucky enough to see this.

  15. The guest last week was a mental health professional saying Trump suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

    After 8 years of President IMEMY, it is hardly earthshattering…with the possible exception being that Trump’s case isn’t nearly as pronounced.

  16. Did you get your site stats from 2016 yet, Rutherford?

    Much to my dismay, WordPress didn’t send me a summary this year so I will have to figure out how they tabulated prior year stats and do it my self. 😡

  17. Tex, I was too busy to watch all of MTP yesterday so I didn’t see the Santelli performance until this afternoon. Thanks for posting — as I tweeted after watching it, I think most of the time Santelli is an idiot but he was right on target this time.

    Here is the bottom line: if Hillary had won the election, the Russian “hack” would be a nothingburger.

  18. LOL, the MTP gang brought up the Russians displaying happiness over the election results. That guy should have done his homework like I did, he could have brought up how happy they were in 2012 when Obama won. 😀

  19. I also remember the Russians were happy with Obama. So were many political leaders of many counties.

    I think some of this is personal. Both Trump and Vlad respect each other and Trump’s business relationships have made him known. I also believe the Russians think they can roll Donald.

  20. Both Trump and Vlad respect each other and Trump’s business relationships have made him known. I also believe the Russians think they can roll Donald.

    You realize there’s a contradiction in there. You don’t respect someone you can roll. Putin thinks Trump is a clown. Putin hasn’t been this happy since the height of his KGB days.

    Unless I grossly underestimate Trump’s savvy, Trump has lost this game before the first pawn has moved.

    I think my 50/50 feeling about Trump is refining. 100% chance he’ll do better domestically and 100% chance he’ll do disastrously with FP. Hence 50/50 chance of overall success.

  21. Rabbit’s vids are starting to rival those of James for weirdness. At least I found a family that cusses in front of their kid more than I do. I feel better now.

  22. Of course Hillary was happy. She was 100% sure she would beat him. In fact some of us wondered at times if he was on her payroll to guarantee her election.

    And then … the dog caught the car.

  23. This is one crazy world. Our government’s lies are layers and layers and layers deep. How are we supposed to trust and have any kind of confidence? They think it’s a new day and we are supposed to believe that although it is proven the fix was in in 2001 that somehow they have fixed all that and now they are faithful. Bullshit. These are liars and shills with no conscience and no guilt. These are the enemies of freedom and humanity. May their lips, mouths, and tongues fail as they flail us with falsehoods.. The whole thing needs dismantling and everyone involved gotten rid of in some permanent fashion.

    The intellectual depravity that is our foreign policy these days was on display yesterday as State Department spokesman, John “big shoulder pads” Kirby, answered some questions relating to the evidence-challenged intel report on Russian hacking that was released on Friday (see video at end of this article)

    Kirby said it would be “irresponsible” for the CIA or other intelligence agencies to provide actual facts regarding their inflammatory claims about Russia interfering with our elections. He went on to say previous lies about Iraq WMDs which led to the illegal invasion and occupation of that country aren’t “relevant” to today’s unsubstantiated claims about Russia.

    Besides, according to Kirby, the American people don’t need and or want any actual evidence when it comes to our chicken-hawk politicians fanning the flames of World War with Russia. We would rather our intelligence industry protect their sources for future lies, rather than produce concrete evidence to back up their highly inflammatory and currently baseless claims.

    https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2017/01/10/sickening-state-department-spokesman-says-previous-lies-from-the-intel-industry-arent-relevant-today-because-reasons-i-beg-to-differ/

  24. Well, I had the true joy of my first colonoscopy today. What a great trip. 😆 How many times does one get to walk down a hospital hall wearing nothing but a hospital gown with the back agape, your tennis shoes and your socks.

    I felt like a flasher. Worse, my wife is out of town and my poor 77 year old mother had to tie my gown and drive me home. Total humiliation. 😈

    The procedure was painless and no big deal. The preparation the day before was sheer misery. Let me give the room a head’s up so you don’t make the same mistake I did.

    The Colyte they give you in preparation? A gallon of salty tasting, nasty brew with a cherry or lemon-lime that you drink to make you whistle Dixie? Don’t be a dumb ass like Tex and try to chug it down faster than the instructions tell you to, to get it over with.

    For the next 2-3 hours, you will be very, very sorry and occupied.

  25. “How many times does one get to walk down a hospital hall wearing nothing but a hospital gown with the back agape, your tennis shoes and your socks”.

    Those gowns are bull shit. Last time I started bitching quite a bit about it. There was absolutely no reason for me to be wearing that humiliating shit.

  26. So, BiC are you suggesting the only difference between Obama and Trump is an active Twitter account?

    Actually, I’m quite certain that unlike the last 8 years of Lord Zero, our new President’s remarks on “events” won’t always be filtered out loud through the lens of himself.

    I remain convinced that Lord Zero’s remarks at the Boston Marathon memorial were the most shameful I’ve witnessed since the Wellstone funeral.

  27. As for President Hell Toupee’s Twitter account, I remain amused at how he uses it to beat the media at their own game.

    Between his continuing ability to make those monkeys dance to his tune, and the fact that he refuses to let them decide what should and should not cow him, unlike just about every other Republican, I like how the old rules don’t work anymore.

  28. You realize there’s a contradiction in there. You don’t respect someone you can roll. Putin thinks Trump is a clown. Putin hasn’t been this happy since the height of his KGB days.

    cough Reset Button cough cough

    “Tell Vlad about my flexibility after the election.”

    And the “redline” in Syria, which would have been comical if it wasn’t Khaddafi’s “Line of Death” redux.

  29. Even if Putin is happy because he thinks he can “roll” Trump (not a theory with which I agree), like Hillary’s happy hubris regarding the primary – Putin is probably underestimating Trump.

    Further making Trump’s choice in TRex seem smart.

  30. Let’s face it, we have no idea if Trump is neo-Teddy Roosevelt or a train wreck of a magnitude we have never seen before.

    So far the guy has been great for Michigan and great against the corrupt left. I couldn’t bare another 4 years of those fuck wads and their blind pawns on TV.

    Let’s roll the dice! Biggly!

    Since I am more responsible here for him than anyone, I vow to at least call him out. So far…. Rutherford’s TV Titans are striking out in hilarious fashion.

  31. I don’t favor the death penalty but Dylannnnnnn Roof is gonna fry and I have no regrets.

    The Roof, the Roof, the Roof is on fire.
    We don’t need no water
    Let that motherfucker BURN!!!!

  32. Tex, did you “ask your doctor” about cologuard? I think that’s what it’s called. You send in a crap sample to the lab and they screen it for cancer.

    I’ve been through one unpleasant colonoscopy already. I’m telling my doctor “fuck that” and I’m getting the kit.

    Fine print: not for folks with high risk of colon cancer.

  33. Tex, did you “ask your doctor” about cologuard?

    Reads like a hemoccult test. I’ve had those before but they’re not nearly as conclusive and usually give a bunch of false positives.

  34. “Poop Chute Testing.”
    “Barkeys yippee yapping tonight.”

    I couldn’t help but laugh as I saw a connection between those things

  35. Anyone keeping up with this latest Russia/Trump bullshit enough to break it down? I can’t decide if it says Russia is trying to screw him, that Russia helped him, or that Russia is trying to screw him by saying it helped him.

  36. I can’t decide if it says Russia is trying to screw him, that Russia helped him, or that Russia is trying to screw him by saying it helped him.

    😆 Libs get like that when they’re angry. I give Rutherford one thing. At least when he is trying to marginalize or disparage, I know he is trying to marginalize or disparage. 😈 Here’s another truly angry Lib masquerading as “tolerant.”

    http://theweek.com/articles/670637/love-america-americans-hate

  37. I can’t decide if it says Russia is trying to screw him, that Russia helped him, or that Russia is trying to screw him by saying it helped him.

    I’d rule out what’s behind Door #1. I think the answer is behind Door #2 or 3. Not sure which one.

  38. To put a new twist on Hucks question, the “breaking news” is that the Russians have “something” on Trump. We just don’t know what it is. Supposedly the FBI does.

  39. I’ve heard the information was “discovered ” by a former British intelligence operative who was deemed credible even though the BBC has found several material discrepancies within the “dossier “.
    This is just another step down the path to deligitimize the 2016 victor.

  40. Serial FEC has been found to be equally effective outside the USA. Colonoscopy is a scam and the different billing codes that happen after the tube is in your ass makes a mockery of the importance of the test and its coverage principles.
    Bottom line (pun implied) unless your family has history keep the q 5 yr camera out of your ass and wallet!

  41. Putin is going to do what Putin is going to do. About the only thing Trump offers is an apparent acceptance of Russia’s desire for a sphere of influence and the removal of sanctions. From that dice roll you’re still left with the opening line.

  42. More fine artistry from the people of St. Louis and backed by the Black Congressional Caucus – now hanging for the American public’s enjoyment. Just ax them about it. 😉

    And they wonder why Barack Obama’s legacy is President Elect Donald J. Trump.

  43. I’m certain there is plenty of incriminating evidence on trump. Vlad could be privy to all of it, along with the same for most of our leaders. It has long been known that blackmail is a powerful political tool often used to persuade votes.

    We each can list political figures that have been brought down or greatly marginalized due to revelations about their sexual exploits.

    There is plenty of evidence available to the average searcher connecting donald to pedophiles and gangsters. He is quoted as saying he is good friends with jeffrey epstein, calling him a terrific guy that likes young girls. A convicted sex offender, epstein took the fifth when asked under oath if donald was involved in the many orgies involving children that took place in his jet and on his island. We have record of donald flying on the jet along with the clintons. It’s a big sick club.

    Surely vlad is involved in the same type of activity. It is commonplace among all the governments and has been for generations. The evidence is massive and undeniable. Independent journalists have been investigating this and providing record, though many have lost their lives doing so. The main stream media has been covering for rich and influential perverts for decades.

    So the dice are tainted. Go ahead and toss them, but know game is rigged.

  44. Using Obama’s own domestic metrics I can’t see any other result than FAIL.
    On one,race relations he has played a key role in destroying advances and actually setting folks back. I don’t think this was his intent and I do believe racism aimed AT him carried over into causing part of the problem but he definitely chalked up some boners.
    Gates,Chicago,Ferguson,Trayvon,BLM and the school discipline folly has all feed into creating an environment that increased racial tensions,worsened black behaviors and culture and made US citizens of all races less safe in their zip codes.

  45. I do not find the painting offensive. It is statement against historical racism moreso than fine art. Art has always been used to convey a message when mere words cannot. It should cause an emotional reaction of some kind if it has merit. It is a form of expression and free speech.

    What does offend me is the ‘art’ of marina abramovic. It is a blend of sick and evil.

  46. I don’t think this was his intent

    I do. If not his personally, I do feel it was the intent of those who selected and control him. It fits their plan set in place over a century ago.

    Consider the role of God in our culture now compared to our history. Consider than many believe distancing ourselves from Him has been progress or enlightenment.

  47. Rep Clay’s defense of the painting and his constituent was not too bad at all. That said I think there are better things for Congress to busy themselves with than galleries. the CBC for sure would have more credibility in defending the emotions behind the painting if they were dedicated to solving the issues.

  48. God does ask us to separate ourselves from the world, but it is not racial separation rather one of heart and mind. He is the father of all races and peoples. The Word tells us we are to be in the world but not of the world. The command is a spiritual one and acknowledges the existence of good and evil among mankind.

    Most people who consider themselves children of God have no clue what He requires of them. Though there are many scriptures to prove it, the one in Romans chapter 12 comes first to mind:

    Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

  49. The media is all about distraction and indoctrination. It serves no other purpose anymore. Our representatives are there to keep us distracted too. They are there to sell the lie and pacify us. They do more to undermine freedom than uphold it.

  50. Back to painting.

    The black wolf shows how blacks have been sold out by their own and have been used to escalate the conflict. The pigs in uniform illustrate the heart of many that hold that position of authority.

    Both sides are also represented in human form indicating the fact that they are caught in the grip of the animal mentality dominating our culture right now. Our history has long suffered under this.

    That is my take. I couldn’t read the article Tex posted unless I took their survey first, which I never submit to. I don’t know how representave clay defended it.

  51. Dems old tricks aren’t working for shit against Sessions and Tillerson. Sessions is a decent man, not the racist hater of women that the left tries to fashion. He will bring the justice back to the degraded department. Tillerson is impressive. No one in the room who has had a turn has been a match for him.

    Dems bring nothing to these proceedings or the country but their partisan votes against the interests of the nation. Rubio, McCain, and Graham have nothing either and they’ll be the ones to shit on their majority and the American people if they vote against these men anyway.

  52. @Alfie – the old racism was dying out. The new racism was growing and has been exposed during and as a result of Obamas tenure. All he did was turbo-fertilize the new racism and give the old racism new life.

    I don’t expect race relations to improve enough to make a difference before it’s too late. I would have bet differently 8 years ago, but thats only because I expected the new racism to be weaker than the old racism but it’s actually much stronger and single minded.

  53. I just got done reading the transcript of the President’s speech last night.

    It struck me as mostly unremarkable…Lincoln’s one foray into review writing came to mind. There were two bits that struck me as ironic…

    It’s the conviction that we are all created equal, endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights, among them life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    I’m pretty sure this is the first time he’s actually said the whole thing out loud…he’s got a history of leaving off the bit about the creator. I still don’t think he means it…his actions and agenda made clear that he believes that “rights” are the province of government to give and to take away, as government sees fit, but it was an interesting reference just the same.

    Our Constitution is a remarkable, beautiful gift. But it’s really just a piece of parchment. It has no power on its own. We, the people, give it power – with our participation, and the choices we make. Whether or not we stand up for our freedoms. Whether or not we respect and enforce the rule of law. America is no fragile thing. But the gains of our long journey to freedom are not assured.

    Unless that freedom is the right to bear arms, in which case, “standing up” for that freedom makes you a bitter clinger, because only the state should have a monopoly on force, and those wacky founders were simply wrong to think otherwise.

  54. If that painting was the winner I cant imagine the losers. It sucks.

    Just because someone picks up a violin and scratches some noise out of the strings we dont call it music or invite the child to sit in with the Chicago Symphony.

  55. We were led to believe obama would get us past racism, himself representing both the black and white races. His election did ignite racial tension in a whole new way, but racism isn’t old or new. There really isn’t a distinction. Though old racists do die with their beliefs, they are the very ones that have fueled racist attitudes today. It has to be learned. We are not born racists.

    We may have the media to blame for introducing it to people who may have otherwise not considered it, but it has been with us for millennia. There is nothing new under the sun.

  56. If that painting was the winner I cant imagine the losers. It sucks.

    In terms of composition and execution, I agree. The message has more impact than the quality of the presentation. I am certain that is why we are even privy to it, without digging into this controversy any further.

    What was the criteria set forth for it judging it a winner? In terms of art, I have seen better in the realm of graffiti.

  57. Obama didn’t create the rampant black racism – in fact, he was saturated in it his whole life. Guaranteed his butt ugly wife, without hope Shelly Antoinette, was indoctrinated from the crib to hate pinky.

    But Obama’s nomination to the Presidency empowered the racists to demonstrate their true colors. There’s nothing new about black racists. They’ve been there from the start. Like the corrupt media, they’re just not even trying to hide the hatred now.

  58. It is appalling how blatant the sins of man have become. They are now mainstream. It is truly like in the days of Noah. Legalizing perversion in the name of free speech, the latest trend signifying our downfall.

  59. Art contest been around since 1982 essentially window dressing for encouraging art in young people and serving as district photo op fluff. A review of 2015 winners reveals no startling results.

  60. I haven’t been paying too much attention to his picks. Those I have looked at are the usual zionist and/or machiavellian types that drive daily elite interests over the rest of humanity. Survival of the fittest today means being part of the club that collectively beats us into submission.

  61. “Some of his picks makes me wonder what the fuck he is actually trying to accomplish.”

    You dont know? Hes goin put y’all back in chains.

    We didnt need to wonder what the fuck Obama was trying to accomplish.

  62. On one,race relations he has played a key role in destroying advances and actually setting folks back.

    For good or bad, the Obama post-mortem that I’m writing in my head sadly ends up about race. However, I think it will surprise some of you. (Yes, I compose a basic first draft in my head before I sit down to actually write.)

  63. Just because someone picks up a violin and scratches some noise out of the strings we dont call it music or invite the child to sit in with the Chicago Symphony.

    Have you seen the work of Jackson Pollock? Hard to call that art but millions do.

  64. Some of his picks makes me wonder what the fuck he is actually trying to accomplish

    For goodness sake, please stop it. THE MAN DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING – HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE JOB ENTAILS – HE IS WINGING IT!!

  65. In 8 years this administration has done nothing about cyber security. We have no policy. The administration employed the worst practices. The president knew about Clintons illegal use of a private server for handling classified information and the peoples’ business. He did nothing about it but lie and use her private email himself. And he never answered for that. The DNC and the Clinton campaign conspired with the propaganda peddlers to rig the election and lost anyway. And got busted for their stupidity and sloppiness. And they’ve never answered for that.

    Just one of many scandals marking this administration as the most incompetent and corrupt that we know of.

    Good riddance to proven bad characters.

  66. Trump killed today. He’s been hard at work (a dirty word to this administration.)

    Sessions kicked ass yesterday while Booker licked it.

    Tillerson is head and shoulders above every D in that room and many Rs.

    Not thrilled with the VA pick but I had a favorite.

  67. Trump doesn’t know what he’s doing. He also doesn’t want to be president. Which is good because it’s going to be Clinton vs Bush.

  68. For goodness sake, please stop it. THE MAN DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING – HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE JOB ENTAILS – HE IS WINGING IT!!

    The irony escapes you, Rutherford. 😆 An Obama goon talking about “winging it.” Let me show you Dear Leader off the prompter “winging it.” 😈

  69. Rutherford? Obama nominated Hillary “Rotten” Clinton and John “You’ve Got a Friend” Kerry for Sec. of State.

    I don’t want to hear no more chit about Donald Trump not knowing what he’s doing. 😐

  70. For goodness sake, please stop it. THE MAN DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING – HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE JOB ENTAILS – HE IS WINGING IT!!

    Obama had the skimpiest resume of anyone to ever hold the office.

    It was clear he was out of his element, and when it was Helen Keller Obvious, he’d make with the Pee Wee Herman “I meant to do that”, and then his fawning admirers in the Presstitute Corpse would proceed to lecture us on how he was “smart like Spock”.

    The guy nominated a $&%^#ing tax cheat for Secretary of Treasury ffs.

    That dog ain’t gonna hunt in this room, R.

  71. “For goodness sake, please stop it. THE MAN DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING – HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE JOB ENTAILS – HE IS WINGING IT!!”

    As he brilliantly spanks dat ass. CNN has been outed again.

    I so hope the latest unsubstantiated newzzz is true and that CNN was duped by the scum bags at 4chan.

    That butt hurt reporter cracked me up, today.

    So scary that Obama’s corruption seems to have infected the CIA. Thank God we have a guy that fights back. 8 years of this disease. It’s not like the corrupt machine disappears with Obama.

    So far I’m loving Trump. So is the rest of Michigan, outside of some irrational blacks, a few trannies and Ann Arbor.

  72. OK, I heard to the 5 minute portion where Trump tells Buzzfeed, CNN, and BBC to get fucked…is the entire hour worth a listen?

  73. OK, I heard to the 5 minute portion where Trump tells Buzzfeed, CNN, and BBC to get fucked…is the entire hour worth a listen?

    Mheh.

    But his takedown of the mewling little “reporter” from the Most Busted Name in Nooz was a thing of beauty.

    Please sir, may I have some more?

  74. Imagine someone from Fox yelling like that CNN dickweed at Obama.

    The leff done loss its mind. Trump might want to start wearing a bulletproof vest.

  75. Looks like Rutherford and Lurker are chit out of luck.

    If you’re looking for nerd pretty, MSNBC is the place to go. If you want hot blondes who surprise you by being able to string 3 words together, you go to Fox.

    It ain’t a coincidence that’s it’s called Fox. 😊

    P.S. reminds me of my old porn addled days when I would watch The Naked News.

  76. I do agree that when Trump fires back at, say, SNL, it’s weird.

    Utter bull shit news that Trump is totally compromised by Russia being whipped up by CNN…Juvenile fire my ass.

    And yeah….If that was Fox screaming at Obama you would have already wrote your “cuz he black” blog entry.

  77. “I’m just curious how long the catharsis of seeing Trump fight juvenile fire with juvenile fire will satisfy all of you.”

    8 years. Which, not coincidentally, is the same amount of time you were satisfied watching Barack Obama publically chastise and deride Fox News.

  78. “Just spotted this. It is kind of a “holy fuck” and I don’t know what to make of it.”

    I heard reports today that Clapper took it seriously enough to call Trump personally to assure him the leak didn’t come from the IC.

  79. Can anyone recommend a greatest hits video of yesterday and today’s confirmation hearings? I’ve been too busy to watch live. I saw a snippet of Rubio trying to destroy T-Rex.

  80. 8 years. Which, not coincidentally …

    Huck, I KNOW you know better. You’re expecting more from your government than tit for tat. I can’t say that for everyone here but I know it’s true of you.

  81. I find it interesting that you expect more of me than you gave of yourself. That you expect more of Trump than you did of Obama.

    You were fine with the tit being dished out, but now you expect others to be above the tat.

    I literally giggled like a schoolgirl when I listened to that 5 minute clip of Trump blasting the media. You know what—i look forward to more of the same.

    Fuck the MSM. They’re done.


    “Can anyone recommend a greatest hits video of yesterday and today’s confirmation hearings?”

    I watched a few minutes of Ted Cruz blasting senate Dems as a whole for sitting silent while the Obama administration broke and ignored multiple laws–which Cruz listed one after another. In another clip he made Al Franken his bitch.


    Ace has a good writeup on what is seriously looking like a covert CIA operation against the duly elected president. So basically the same shit it does to other countries it’s now doing to ours. Here’s a sample:

    “In other words, the CIA and FBI weren’t presenting these to Trump as Real Allegations they were investigating, but as a cautionary tale about Fake News that Trump would have to be cautious about spreading himself. (And, implicitly, they were trying to say: “So you have to Trust Us about everything.)

    So CNN’s report, per NBC, was itself fatally flawed and based on Fake News, despite CNN’s and Jake Tapper’s protestations to the contrary.

    However, it doesn’t take a suspicious mind (though it helps to have one) to imagine this was all deliberately engineered by the Deep State, by a deliberate Telephone Game in which one claim gets intentionally distorted each step along the relay that ultimately put in on CNN and then Buzzfeed.

    Step One: The CIA contrives a reason to present a brief mention of this oppo dump on Trump, with the cover story that they’re presenting it as a Morality Tale about Trusting the Infallible CIA and not the Internet.

    Step Two: CIA operatives familiar with the game plan now contact CNN and whatever other outlets are willing to listen and misreport the oppo dump not as a cautionary tale presented to Trump, but as Real Allegations by Credible Sources the CIA is Vigorously Investigating.

    Step Three: Now the story cooked up by Oppo Dump researchers six months ago– which no one could ever confirm, and which all media outlets refused to publish (though the leftwing hackshop Mother Jones did sketch out the basics) — has a pretext of newsworthiness attached to it, and finally, after anti-Trump forces in political parties and government have tried to get it out for half a year, finally someone is willing to bite into this shitburger.

    You asked for a miracle? I give you CNN.

    Step Four: CNN, having now legitimized which never had any legitimacy from the beginning, is taken as encouragement for Buzzfeed to publish a defamatory document which they themselves admit cannot be verified and in fact is erroneous in the few areas where they can attempt to verify it.”

  82. Politico is reporting that Ukraine also interfered in our election—for Hillary.

    “Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.”

    But they didn’t get anyone to willingly give up their Email password so, you know, it’s all good.

  83. The leff done loss its mind. Trump might want to start wearing a bulletproof vest.

    I think the “leff” may be the least of Trumps problems. At the rate he’s going an angry American spy may do the deed.

  84. That excellent Carlson interview surprised me. The Nation magazine skews left so the professor’s Trump-sympathetic tone was not what I expected.

    I know some here want to lay all this stuff on the libs but Trump has GOP enemies too. I think McCain got info from British MI-6 and gave it to the FBI. Doing his “patriotic” duty I guess. 🤔

  85. “At the rate he’s going an angry American spy may do the deed.”

    Why is it his rate? The fucking CIA is spreading disinformation about the president-elect, man. Donald Trump should be the least of anyone’s worries at this point.

  86. Huck, it matters not whether Donald has a valid gripe against the CIA. I’m thinking presidents like to stay on their good side. Disinformation may only be the CIA’s opening volley.

    There are players up and down the scale of rationality who view Trump as a threat to the nation. I assumed Trump started wearing a “vest” as soon as he got the nomination.

  87. I have been too busy to follow politics. Our weather has become active and it is hard to accurately report daily complex weather when I am fifty miles from our home.

    I am not saying “I told you so,” but I am more strongly convinced that the Russians are closer to the truth than some of our own government officials and intelligence agencies. That includes Republicans like McCain.

    “I shot the sherrif, but I did not shoot the deputy” applies to the Russians as far as I can see with available information.

    Court jesters like the leftist entertainers, some of the press, and public media are inoculating Trump from any future charges or real crimes. The Johnson administration did roughly the same during the Vietnam war with measured responses which gave the enemy time to adapt.

    I hope you are right about Obama, Rutherford.

  88. “I find it interesting that you expect more of me than you gave of yourself.”

    The left is extremely nervous about tit for tat right now. They should be.

  89. R –
    I was reading about the floods in the West, which reminded me of this old Seldom Scene song, which of course reminded me of James.

    I saw them twice in the ‘seventies – before the death of great showman, John Duffey. Mike Auldridge on the Dobro, Phil Rosenthal, writer and vocals.

  90. I am in error. Muddy Water was written by the Phil Rosenthal – who would be a future member of the Seldom Scene, but the vocals on this version (Act III album) are Dr. John Starling, whose day job was surgeon.

  91. The left is extremely nervous about tit for tat right now. They should be.

    Oh please, you and the right have been in tit for tat mode the past 8 years, resentful of how W was treated. I was hoping your win last November would help you move on and GET SOMETHING DONE FOR THE COUNTRY. Instead, you’re still bitching about Obama.

  92. BiC you’re wrong. Obama is staying local so his kid isn’t uprooted from her school – same as you’d do for your kid.

    And you know damn well Obama was more than a community organizer. He was a state senator and a US senator. I know deriding him gives you a hard-on but don’t be stupid about it.

  93. I’ve got this old dermatologist whose a hoot. He told me this story today while giving me the once over.

    After three kids during medical school and Chief Resident at OKC Baptist Hospital, he and his wife made a trip to a crusty urologist for a vasectomy. His wife is sitting in the chair while the two doctors talk, with my dermatologist sitting on the table.

    The urologist says to my dermatologist, “Hey, you know. A lot of these medical marriages don’t work out and the next Mrs. XXX might want a few puppies of her own. You sure you want to this?”

    My Dermatologist: “Who do you think I brought in to sit with me during this conversation? My girlfriend?” 😈

  94. R – I voted for Obama – once, not twice, but I soon discovered to my dismay that his primary skill set is that of showman – he’s presentable and a superb speaker, but listening objectively to his speeches, you realize that his message is equal parts style and meaningless rhetoric. There’s nothing wrong with being an inspiring speaker, but without experience – and especially ability – to call on, it is all window-dressing. He has style but not substance, IMHO.

    I happened by the TV yesterday while Rex Tillerson was answering questions. Whether you like him or not, THERE is ability. 41 years experience at the top rung of commerce, dealing with crooks from all over the world and yet being able to forge deals that make his company money. THAT is ability – he has everything the Amateur President lacks.

    I will say this: he and Michelle have managed to keep their pants on during their time in the White House, and they have lovely girls that any father would be proud of. They should get credit for that.

  95. And you know damn well Obama was more than a community organizer. He was a state senator and a US senator.

    One term. Voted “present” unless it was to back the right of a mother to murder her child. No introduction of legislation.

    Harrison was a major general, and a territorial governor in addition to his own terms in Congress before his truncated Presidency.

    I know deriding him gives you a hard-on but don’t be stupid about it.

    It doesn’t give me a hard-on. It makes me disappointed that someone with a resume so thin, and a record of such failure still has so many people fooled.

  96. I think that’s a pretty fair take, Pfesser. I can excuse people voting for Obama in 2008 for a multitude of reasons. His opponent was lame, we were in a steep recession and most Americans are woefully illiterate about rational economics, America was war weary, Obama delivered a thin but showy speech, and there was the historical aspect of a minority President.

    I didn’t vote for Obama in 2008 because I thought even then he was a sham, he had no record, his lofty speeches were full of platitudes I knew couldn’t be delivered, and his policies I deemed wrongheaded. But the writing was on the wall that Obama would win.

    Voting for Obama by 2012 became inexcusable unless you were simply a vested, leftist hack and stupid. As of 2012, Obama had clearly been deemed a failure and a charlatan, with the added unattractive of hustler and thug to our allies, coward to our enemies.

    I have never thought the same of America since.

  97. – he’s presentable and a superb speaker, but listening objectively to his speeches, you realize that his message is equal parts style and meaningless rhetoric.

    I disagree. He is a terrible speaker, and the fact that it is largely meaningless when he speaks as well is the primary reason I don’t listen to his speeches, I read the transcripts.

  98. “I was hoping your win last November would help you move on and GET SOMETHING DONE FOR THE COUNTRY. Instead, you’re still bitching about Obama.”

    Maybe because he’s still doing stupid shit.

  99. At first I thought him a good orator.
    Soon after he was sworn in he got rhetorical. Then sassy. Then vindictive. Then sinister.

    He didn’t write those speeches. He just delivered them.

    He didn’t even write his own book. His real origin is questionable.

    He is just the actor who performed the character that was written for him.

    Rutherford, like a hopeless romantic, still looks for a glimmer of light in those eyes…

  100. I have never thought the same of America since.

    Me too and there have been more than a few times when I reflect on being that way and quite simply its an emotional moment.

  101. I will say it would be far better if the GOP would focus on doing something for the country and continuously frame it that way than it is to just be all blah blah Obama blah blah reverse the Obama stuff,repeal the Obama stuff blah blah.

  102. T-Rex is likely to pass because behind the scenes there is a couple of nice chunks of dripping bait that his public detractors will not be able to resist. Your average Trump supporter is going to be like “What”?!?!

  103. Rutherford I look forward to your Obama Obit but I’m thinking it isn’t going to move too many of us. Bottom line even the kindest of people HAS to conclude that he forfeited his capital in less than a year and played a big role in cemented his own demise.

  104. “Tigre what up do?”

    Just chillin out, maxin’, relaxin’ all cool. . .

    Real life’s been interfering with this stuff, that’s all.

  105. “T-Rex is likely to pass because behind the scenes there is a couple of nice chunks of dripping bait that his public detractors will not be able to resist. Your average Trump supporter is going to be like “What”?!?!”

    I’m reading this statement and Im like “What?”

  106. Dims can’t accept that they LOST and Scoldybutthurt wants US to stop bitching about Obama – that’s rich.

    Nope. Not gonna.

  107. I will say it would be far better if the GOP would focus on doing something for the country and continuously frame it that way than it is to just be all blah blah Obama blah blah reverse the Obama stuff,repeal the Obama stuff blah blah.

    Maybe now that Alfie has said it, it will carry some weight. 😐

  108. The FBI should open an investigation into the DOJs involvement in the weaponization of the IRS, the CIA, and everything else theyve had their dirty fingers in.

  109. Nope. Not gonna.

    Do what you please. While you’re being juvenile some of us will attempt real patriotism and talk about policies that move the country forward.

    I learned from the Dem mistakes last year. I’m working on changing my tune. The grammar school level of discourse in hyper mode in these last 8 days won’t do going forward.

  110. The FBI should open an investigation into the DOJs involvement in the weaponization of the IRS, the CIA, and everything else theyve had their dirty fingers in.

    You want the fox investigating the hen house?

    I heard a headline today that an “inspector general” (I may have the title wrong) is going to investigate the whole lot of them.

    I saw one lib pundit whom I abhor (Joy Reid) calling for Comey’s resignation.

  111. “I will say it would be far better if the GOP would focus on doing something for the country and continuously frame it that way than it is to just be all blah blah Obama blah blah reverse the Obama stuff,repeal the Obama stuff blah blah”

    It would be far better if they wordlessly repealed everything. In your face Barry.

  112. R – Here’s why I think so many people are excited about Trump. From my POV, we down here in the trenches have watched Obama and his minions -for eight years – shove things down our throats that they thought were good for us – but we didn’t want – while exempting THEMSELVES from the very real consequences of all those good works.

    We had got used to politicians saying they were going to fix things we all agree need to be fixed, but then crawfishing when it came time to really do it. What makes this time different is that we believe Trump will do what he says.

    The Left is still in shock, and all it can come up with is obstruction. I have news for them, though: this has been coming for a long time. The people who actually make this country go, want it – and want it desperately. The leftists had better either help or get the hell out of the way, because they WILL be run down if they don’t move their sorry asses.

  113. R – re: tit for tat. A lady had triplets and named them Tot, Tut, and Tat.

    Unfortunately she had no … well, you know.

  114. This is why Dimocrats are irrelevant anymore but the predictable chitholes. A candidate for CIA being interviewed by California’s newest, dumbest Senator.

    Gay marriage, Muslims and Climate Change? Unfuckingbelievable…This is one of 100 Senators.

  115. Times sure have changed over the years. When one’s position on gay rights and climate change are primary concerns in appointing anyone to our intelligence community, you know we’ve jumped the shark. Really it happened a long time ago. Now the collective realization is kicking in.

  116. “A candidate for CIA being interviewed by California’s newest, dumbest Senator.”

    Oh, for fuck’s sake. The stupidity. hurts.

    R, you think the CIA should look into the weather patterns you observed in Connecticut? There might be a lead there. 😆

  117. “R, you think the CIA should look into the weather patterns you observed in Connecticut? There might be a lead there.”

    Chemtrails, brah

  118. The Left is still in shock, and all it can come up with is obstruction. I have news for them, though: this has been coming for a long time. The people who actually make this country go, want it – and want it desperately. The leftists had better either help or get the hell out of the way, because they WILL be run down if they don’t move their sorry asses.

    I read this, and what first came to mind was Lord Zero’s “Grab a mop.” blather in 2009.

    As I see it, the distinct difference is that Lord Zero’s “solutions” don’t work. They never have, and what he was able to implement has proven to be a failure to all but the most committed (a/k/a those who should be committed).

    The reason why the Demcong’s minority resistance will fail is because their policies of failure will be dismantled and replaced with something better, and because when you are in the minority, the only weapon you have is persuasion, and the Left sucks at persuasion, which is why they rely on brute force and an activist judiciary to get what they want.

    I hope they like wandering in the wilderness, because I’m not even sure they have a Moses to guide them right now.

  119. “I read this, and what first came to mind was Lord Zero’s “Grab a mop.” blather in 2009.”

    I enjoyed this one alot too:

    “They can’t have the keys back. They don’t know how to drive. They don’t know how to drive. They can ride with us if they want, but they got to get in the back seat. Because we want to go forward. We don’t want the special interests riding shotgun.”

    What a schmuck. Good riddance.

  120. “They can’t have the keys back. They don’t know how to drive. They don’t know how to drive. They can ride with us if they want, but they got to get in the back seat. Because we want to go forward. We don’t want the special interests riding shotgun.”

    Well, if only America wasn’t so stupid as to let the Russians helping the Demcong fulfill their promises of transparency sway them from electing America’s Ex-Wife to serve Lord Zero’s 3rd term, it might have worked.

  121. “R, you think the CIA should look into the weather patterns you observed in Connecticut? There might be a lead there”

    It’s fucking scary. These leftists are zealots and suicidal for America. And they wonder why they have lost so much.

    We have to take a time machine almost a 100 years back to see Dems in a head lock like this. Oh but weather prophecies, pregnant moms and lgbtq whatever….When grilling the head of the CIA, no less. Fucking insanity.

    But it’s Russia…And golden showers….

  122. Obama thought that driving the car story was so clever, he told over and over and over again. That truly is the ability of Obama’s thought process. Rutherford can’t bring himself to admit this, but Barack Obama probably isn’t even of average intelligence. Poorly read, mumble and stumble, profoundly ignorant of history and character, and most likely a whitey hater.

    Now that we’ve tallied up the gains and losses of Obama’s gross ineptness in leadership, looks to like the Dims should have handed the keys back in about 2010 and took the bus. They would have gotten a lot further down the road and they could have continued with the only things the do well.

    Criticize, back seat driving and navel gazing.

  123. Climate change questions to an organization that could weaponize climate change might actually be relevant. This thought comes to me after watching Poolman’s Brennan video. I’m not saying that is where Kamala Harris was going.

  124. Dims should have handed the keys back in about 2010 and took the bus. They would have gotten a lot further down the road.

    They were given the keys and did NOTHING.

  125. Harris was establishing her credentials for the special people who give her money,votes and that Hollywood Dem credibility. She’s a fucking poser idiot who will ask those types of questions regardless of department or personnel.

  126. There are those in the defense and foreign policy fields who do view climate change and resources as conflict points. That said that is NOT Kameleon Harris’ motivation though.

  127. Cruz and Lindsey G touch Wonder Rings ™ to complicate Trumps first 100 and to measure how much Bibi they can take without gagging.
    GOP lesson learned from election= -1
    NEXT!

  128. “Glenn Greenwald snacks down democrats and IC damn!”

    I found it on BBC. Sobering. Anyone dismissing his take needs a reality check. It also contextualizes Trump’s response that the left claims irrational.

  129. “I’m not saying that is where Kamala Harris was going.”

    So why bother responding with that bull shit.

    Devil’s advocate all you want….you and your party are on one hand corrupt and on the other total fucking moon bats.

    But keep your eye on the ball, brah. There is still (amazingly) even more seats to lose for the…Uh…Whig Party.

  130. “Yet craving Deep State rule is exactly what prominent Democratic operatives and media figures are doing. Any doubt about that is now dispelled. Just last week, Chuck Schumer issued a warning to Trump, telling Rachel Maddow that Trump was being “really dumb” by challenging the unelected intelligence community because of all the ways they possess to destroy those who dare to stand up to them”:

    Rutherford parroted this on his blog. Surely after watching his shit television.Did the thought occur to him that if this is true then we actually desperately need Trump?

  131. Rutherford parroted this on his blog.

    Look, asshole, I wasn’t parroting anything. The CIA is known for trying to KILL people. Castro was lucky to see old age. I don’t think the notion of the CIA throwing some misfortune Trump’s way is that outlandish if he doesn’t play nice.

    Hey Rabbit, one Tigre is more than enough. Drop the MSNBC parrot shit. It’s the mark of someone who has no game.

  132. P.S. For those with limited reading comprehension, I do NOT side with the IC on this and I think Trump has every right to be pissed off. That doesn’t negate the perils of fucking with the CIA.

  133. Tigre, regarding weaponizing climate change I’m jumping off the Brennan vid Poolman posted. Maybe I misunderstood it but I got the impression from him that climate change remedies could be applied selectively to reward certain countries and punish others.

  134. “Maybe I misunderstood it but I got the impression from him that climate change remedies could be applied selectively to reward certain countries and punish others.”

    You misunderstood.

  135. “I don’t think the notion of the CIA throwing some misfortune Trump’s way is that outlandish if he doesn’t play nice.”

    Fuck the entire CIA if true (I don’t necessarily think it is). In reality, we probably have a sizable amount of Obama/DNC infection, like we do in many agencies, right now. That corruption could take years to remove, if ever.

    What’s disgusting is the same left once so nobley outraged at intelligence agencies over Iraq are now threatening the POTUS (and by extension the existence of the Republic) with the same damn agencies.

    Every month, the left some how manages to shock me with just how low they are capable of going.

    You people do not know who you are fucking with. Just like you were caught off guard with the election, you may very well be caught off guard with thousands of armed Patriots. You cower in fear of the CIA? Sheeeeeeeeeeit. It’s the bitter clingers that should make you quake, motherfucker!

    Rutherford. If the the CIA, backed by most of the Democratic Party, actually fucking kills Trump, as you seem to be saying is a real possibility….Pick your sides very, very wisely. Because at that point I’m quite certain the second American Civil War has begun.

    I don’t think it’s debatable that some factions in the CIA already haphazardly attempted to frame Trump. And major media conglomerates were in on it. The same media outlets that have already been proven to be an extension of the DNC. And Democrats are appluading all of this. Chuck Schumer wasn’t outraged about the CIA. He was outraged that Trump didn’t back down to it’s power. WTF?

    You people are playing with fire.

  136. “Chuck Schumer wasn’t outraged about the CIA. He was outraged that Trump didn’t back down to it’s power. WTF?”

    Yeah. Watch MSNBC for a while. Same shit.

  137. I think I figured out why the GOP is having trouble coming up with a replacement for Obamacare. It’s because Obamacare IS a GOP solution.

    Just ask Mitt Romney. 😀😀😀

  138. FWIW Rabbit I agree that if Trump gets whacked, civil unrest if not outright war will ensue.

    Trump is getting heat for insisting on supplementing the Secret Service with his own private security detail. Could be the dude knows he’s alienated so many groups (not just the left) that he’s a marked man.

  139. You misunderstood.

    Ok Tigre. That implies you didn’t misunderstand it. So please explain it to me – especially the last 30 seconds or so where he talks about the selective use of the anti-climate change concoction.

    You might want to watch the video first. 😉

  140. “DR, your comment made me think of Clay Davis on The Wire”

    Ha. I was totally mimicking him in my my mind when I was typing.

    Man I miss that show. I can never watch a cop show again because nothing compares.

  141. http://disq.us/p/1f8yvk5

    “You people are playing with fire”

    I chose sides a long time ago. My form of a boycott is to spend more time with European entertainers without spending any money on them.

    A potentially historic ice storm is more important than preening entertainers and politicians.

  142. “Ok Tigre. That implies you didn’t misunderstand it. So please explain it to me. . . ”

    No, I don’t need to watch it either because I know what it is about without having to. It figures you find validation for that twatwaffle, Harris, from Poolman’s stupid video in the same way he finds validation for the his stupid contrail conspiracy theory. Your intellectual rigor and methods are no different, do you know that? Really.

    I’m sure he’s talking about the hypothetical geoengineering “cure” for so-called global warming, stratospheric aerosol injection, being used to strategically. SAI is as much a “climate change weapon” as the giant sun shield or blankets covering iceland and other cartoonish geoengineering “weapons.” Geniuses like you and Poolman think Brennan’s comment proves chemtrails are part of a government because you’re too fucking stupid to reconcile what you’re observing with your preconceived beliefs without it.

    Look, Meathead. The hypothetical SAI stuff Brennan was talking about as a “climate weapon” doesn’t require a belief in the anthropogenic global warming agenda. You don’t have to be a fucking ignorant warmist to consider whether there’s something in the hypothetical “cures” being investigated that could be converted to a weapon anymore than you have to believe smoking is fun and healthy because exploding vaping pens (or whatever they’re called) could considered a weapon by the dummies that do. None whatsoever.

    Got that? It’s pretty fucking obvious that what Harris about believing the perverse liberal orthodoxy on “global warming” hasn’t got a fucking thing to do with “climate weapons” or what Brennan was talking about.

    Gawd you people are stupid.

    Don’t forget to phone in your lead to the CIA though. 🙄

  143. Trump is getting heat for insisting on supplementing the Secret Service with his own private security detail. Could be the dude knows he’s alienated so many groups (not just the left) that he’s a marked man.

    Or it could be that Pence just isn’t the same life insurance policy that Sheriff Joe Choo Choo Biden was.

  144. Human Rights Watch has deemed the USA and Trump specifically as part of the problem facing the world. They put Trump on the same level as Assad,Putin and the Tehran clique and lament how “the people” must rise up against popularism.
    They want a “popular” uprising against popularism?
    All in all America and Obama wasted eight years to put forth a legitimate call to history. Perhaps it is fitting that Trumps opponents seem to believe he is not willing to miss that call.

  145. Got that? It’s pretty fucking obvious that what Harris about believing the perverse liberal orthodoxy on “global warming” hasn’t got a fucking thing to do with “climate weapons” or what Brennan was talking about.
    Gawd you people are stupid.
    Don’t forget to phone in your lead to the CIA though. 🙄

    Again, you’re so eager to argue, you don’t read. Go back to my first comment on the Brennan vid. I explicitly said that was NOT why Harris asked her climate change questions to Pompeo. Then when Alfie piped in, I reiterated that I was NOT saying that was Harris’ agenda.

    When you refuse to read what people actually write you have NO business calling anyone else dumb.

    Let me give you the Dr. Suess level version, genius:

    Rutherford watched a video that made him wonder if the selective use of SIA could be used as levers against enemy nations. Anyone else with this concern would be within rights to ask a CIA director nominee his opinion on the matter. Kamala Harris did NOT (read it again dumbfuck) DID NOT have that concern so she was just asking stupid questions.

  146. Tucker Carlson demolished both Biden receiving the Medal of Freedom AND Obama receiving some sort of medal from the DoD.

    I wanted to post a YouTube vid of it here for the haters but it’s not up yet.

  147. I was surprised how “articulate” Pompeo was in the few clips I saw from the hearings. I had him pegged as Norm from “Cheers” but the dude demonstrated some intelligence (no CIA pun intended).

    That’s the glass half full view of the Trump administration – his cabinet may save him from himself.

  148. Dumbass John Lewis attacks Trump but somehow it’s Trump who is wrong for reacting.

    I parted ways with the civil rights has been when he implied Sanders was lying about his own civil rights record.

  149. This whole “I’m boycotting the inauguration” is a joke.

    Like Trump or anyone that supports him cares if a bunch of crybabies sit out his party.

  150. If we’re going to be lectured about all of John Lewis’ sacrifices, shouldn’t that lecture include mention of the political party that forced him to make them?

  151. “Again, you’re so eager to argue, you don’t read. Go back to my first comment on the Brennan vid. I explicitly said that was NOT why Harris asked her climate change questions to Pompeo.”

    I read what you wrote. I know exactly what you said.

    Now read what I wrote. Move your lips if you need to. I answered your question. These are “hypothetical” programs that have nothing to do with believing in the anthropogenic global warming agenda. You apparently didn’t know that or are too lazy to Google again. No one is “within their rights” to ask about it because it’s not germane to jack shit.

    “Climate change questions to an organization that could weaponize climate change might actually be relevant.” -R

    Gawd. No it’s not. You and logic need to make the introduction. The fact that the words “climate change” were used in two different contexts does not make them “relevant” at all. NOT RELEVANT.

    The whole Harris shit is fucking stupid — stooooopid — and you just won’t admit that. You and Harris are similar in trying so hard to advance an unrelated narrative that you strain your bowels holding out the term “global warming” like it’s a mirror to a vampire. It’s a political lever you pulled like a trained seal, and you’re lost on what to do with it.

    Soooo eager to defend the whole dumb liberal narrative, one that includes blaming terrorism on global warming, that you looked to Poolman’s unrelated nonsense for a nexus. Sad.

  152. Democrat senators are already campaigning for POTUS. We’ll have years of this sheer stupidity as they race further and further left.

  153. Just in case anyone wants the actual text of Brennans speech @ the CFR
    https://www.cia.gov/news-information/speeches-testimony/2016-speeches-testimony/director-brennan-speaks-at-the-council-on-foreign-relations.html

    @ Rutherford I wasn’t getting on you about what your views on Harris was. I’m simply about what Harris is definitely doing and what she isn’t. Her questions to Pompeo would be the same questions she’d ask the USDA pick. She wants to stress her upstanding efforts in the field of lbqtghsipdf

  154. Let me guess, MSNBC and CNN are aghast that Trump disrespected the icon…..

    That was classic Trump. Love it and so do millions like me.

    Don’t get me wrong…I think Drumph should lay off the cast of SNL… But some old lying race pimp Congressman?

  155. I’ve been watching and reading up on this Glenn Greenwald guy. I’ve heard of him for a while but know nothing about him. I see he is no Republican apologist, having written books and appearances speaking out against George Bush, Dick Cheney, and such.

    He’s been punking the shit out of the media this entire month.

  156. Greenwald helped Snowden go public.

    I forget the name of the documentary on Snowden but Greenwald plays a big role in it.

    I’m pretty sure Greenwald lives in Rio for fear of US prosecution. He’s also gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  157. Just so everyone is clear on where this is headed: Trump’s enemies are trying to prove the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to hack Podesta and the DNC, thereby “cheating” to win the election. They will try to tie it to some illegality and then demand impeachment proceedings.

    That’s the agenda, plain and simple.

  158. Then it only makes sense that he’d need to fundamentally change America back to, you know, make America great “again.”

  159. “Tigre as is often the case we’re talking past each other.”

    Only if you don’t understand the distinction in the terms you’re using (e.g. climate v. weather v. geoengineering v. SAI).

  160. Rutherford constantly does that. He throws intellectual smoke grenades. He is usually forced to concede an unpalatable reality but goes on to play a dumb concept association game where he throws this other statement with the hope it leaves a crack open. Somewhere in said crack, he pretends his former political hack heroes aren’t the total fucking moonbats that they really are.

    Senator X gives a speech about how smoking killed Abe Lincoln. We point out that is demonstrably false. He concedes this point but then waxes on about how smoking has, in fact, killed other presidents in the past (cites a fucking poolman YouTube vid). Senator X isn’t crazy any more. Just riled up and having a bad day fighting the good fight. Tigre does a face palm.

    It’s pathetic. But than again, he has the then/than game down and writes well.

  161. I’d like to see Trump shut the CIA down, simplify the tax code tax to one page and shut the IRS down. And pass term limits.

    John Lewis is a highly paid professional protestor.

  162. The level of hysteria from the feckless Left these days surprises even a mocking cynic like me. I can’t make up my mind whether to fight back against this kind of stupidity, or simply let their party slide into the abyss.

  163. “I can’t make up my mind whether to fight back against this kind of stupidity, or simply let their party slide into the abyss.”

    Punch back twice as hard each and every time and shove them into the abyss one by one.

  164. Is that allegory, or how can an abyss exist in your world? Just curious.

    ET and his buddy mick can spend their precious time attempting to debunk every popular government conspiracy known, as they always do, but their proofs are as lacking as their math skills.

    That they have been aerosol injecting our skies for decades eludes most small screen seers. I have been documenting it in my area for more than 5 years once I became aware. Others have been at it much longer. There are all kinds of evidence ranging from soil samples to whistleblowers.

    Many people from many countries have filmed their observations.

    I linked to a list of patents that indicate many of the involved. Clemson University is a key component in the aerosol program. One area works in conjunction with nasa to release nano-sized metallic particles from rockets into the upper atmosphere to perform studies.

    Poolman also believes we are living on a fixed plane (flat earth). Every test that can and has been performed proves this theory and confirms the truth found in the Word of God.

    Many of those very tests set out to prove we are spinning through space or sitting on a ball, yet the results concluded we could not be doing either. After making the discovery, many have become believers in the God of the Bible. I think that a good thing.

    That means there are A LOT of people in powerful positions intent on deceiving us. Again, this confirms what is written in scripture. And they need to keep us fooled because we are actually the source of their power.

    The truth is truly earth shattering to the average globehead. It will do more than merely rearrange the furniture in one’s mind.

    Again, denial and lack of the desire or ability to perform simple tests and research keeps the masses ignorant and controllable.

  165. Only if you don’t understand the distinction in the terms you’re using (e.g. climate v. weather v. geoengineering v. SAI).

    I thought SAI was a form of geoengineering. It isn’t?

  166. Senator X isn’t crazy any more. Just riled up and having a bad day fighting the good fight.

    Rabbit I actually was following your critique of me until you got to this part.

    Not everything I say here is a swing for the team. Sometimes I’m just making an observation that is not intended to start a debate. I very clearly said my observation was not a defense of Harris but you can’t accept that because to accept that, you can’t have a good fight, get your hate on, and attack.

    All I ever said was Poolman’s video made me think about how geoengineering (in this case to fight climate change – TIGRE) might be used to hurt countries we don’t like. That, in loose terms could be called weapinizing and such activities might fall in the purview of the CIA.

  167. FWIW grammar is correctable, pathetic isn’t.

    This from the fucking idiot who wants to do away with the CIA.

    Yeah keep talking. You make me look smarter every day.

  168. 1) I’m beginning to get tired of Pence’s professed Trump-love. It’s starting to sound a bit gay, ironic coming from an anti-gay rights governor. The “humble admiration” that Pence has for Trump is getting a bit old. I was amused at first. Now I just wanna punch him in the face.

    2) We all know that Bill Clinton discussed Hillary’s potential indictment on that plane with Loretta Lynch. So why should we believe that Mike Flynn talked to Russia and never discussed sanctions or any other key issues of importance to Russia?

  169. I agree, but I also remind you of Biden and Obama’s relationship. Obama calls it a bromance. The left is behaving as if Trump was in a shark tank. Pence may be defending Trump.

  170. A bus load of Hollywood celebrities tried to “influence” the election. Perfectly normal.

    So where is the crime in Russia trying to influence the election to serve their interests? Influencing and “altering our democratic process” are two different things.

    Even, worst case, we find proof that Trumpworld reached out to Russia to help discredit HRC, is that a crime or just some badass political hardball?

  171. Pence may be defending Trump.

    Absolutely. And during the campaign I found Pence’s approach amusing if not downright admirable. The dude deserved a Tony, Emmy, and Oscar for the way he defended Donald’s foolishness with a straight face.

    But the campaign is over and the “this good man” spiel is getting old. Pence strikes me as passive-aggressive.

  172. John Lewis claimed someone spat at him during a Tea Party demonstration. Nancy Pelosi had marched her colleagues through crowd to elicite a hostile response. He could never prove it.

    I think the Soviets experimented with weather modification as a weapon. They dabbled with ESP too, I think.

    The ice storm is getting closer. If it fails to meet expectations, the Weather Service will be hiding in an underground bunker.

  173. R I think Pence is the kind of guy that depending on which side of the office door you’re on you get a different guy.
    His humbleness is fitting of his public station. Equally so is how he might behave in a room full of Senators dicking around on a piece of legislation.
    Trump not my choice for P nor Pence for VP but I concede together they are a good mix.

  174. Trump’s reaching out to Russia is no more a crime than when John Kerry and Ted Kennedy reached out to the Soviets. They were never punished.

  175. “A bus load of Hollywood celebrities tried to “influence” the election. Perfectly normal. So where is the crime in Russia trying to influence the election to serve their interests?”

    Shit, Ukraine tried to influence the election. Except for a Politico article and me mentioning it here, has anyone heard a single peep about this? I haven’t.

  176. I think folks better get in touch with Webster on some of the hot words flying around now a days.
    “influence” the election seems to have a pretty wide spectrum if you’re willing to include Russians killing people,the US killing people,supporting print and radio entities whose sole purpose is to proclaim your position etc etc. To include op-eds and social media douching on that scale seems pretty whacked.
    Sputnik & RT= PressTV=Al Jazeera=RFE Seriously aren’t they all the same concept ultimately?

  177. “I thought SAI was a form of geoengineering. It isn’t?”

    Yes, one is a subset of the other. Thus, my references to others like blankets and sun shields that under your Brennan Musings Standard are “relevant” because they could be “[found] fascinating” by him along with cancer, something surprisingly left unexplored with Pompeo.

  178. If that’s in reference to my comment, the Politico piece is far from an op-ed.

    “Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

    “A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

    “The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.”

    I don’t care what dictionary you’re using, that is the definition of “influence”.

  179. What’s the big deal about influencing foreign elections? The Left was all for Obama and his henchmen trying to influence the last Israeli elections for Prime Minister and nobody is denying the info dumped was accurate. The Democratic Party is corrupt top to bottom. Only the blind squirrel, the drones, and other assorted deviants didn’t already know that.

    Just cause the Left lost both times is good fortune, as it is every time the Left loses.

  180. LOLOL

    “John F. Kennedy famously described his desire to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds” after the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. Peter Kornbluh points out in his book Bay of Pigs Declassifiedthat the State Department at that same time proposed the CIA be stripped of its covert action capacity and renamed. However, the CIA escaped any serious repercussions — partly because, as Kornbluh explains, the CIA’s then-director, John McCone, made sure that most of the copies of a damning report on the Bay of Pigs by the agency’s own inspector general were literally burned.

    Then in 1963, after Kennedy’s assassination, Harry Truman wrote a newspaper column explaining that “I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations. … I, therefore, would like to see the CIA be restored to its original assignment as the intelligence arm of the president … and that its operational duties be terminated or properly used elsewhere.”
    Beyond the two presidents, Truman’s Secretary of State Dean Acheson wrote in his 1969 memoirs that upon the CIA’s creation he “had the gravest forebodings about this organization and warned the president that as set up neither he, the National Security Council, nor anyone else would be in a position to know what it was doing or to control it.” ”

    https://theintercept.com/2016/02/22/in-1974-call-to-abolish-cia-sanders-followed-in-footsteps-of-jfk-truman/

  181. Trump not my choice for P nor Pence for VP but I concede together they are a good mix.

    In an unusual balancing act, Trump needs Pence more than Pence needs Trump. I think that’s atypical for a P/VP relationship. I also can’t help but think Pence knows he has a better than average chance of becoming President within the next four years.

  182. “On abolishing the CIA, Sanders is in some distinguished company”

    Did I ever say I agree with everything Bernie Sanders has ever said?

    Your Truman quote seems more on point. If you had stated that the CIA’s mission and conduct need to be revisited and adjusted, that’s a very reasonable suggestion. I don’t think they should be engaged in covert activity to topple governments or assassinate leaders. BUT I do think the potus needs as much info as possible to make good decisions and some of that comes from intelligence.

    Your sweeping statement to kill the CIA isn’t serious. It’s a Bar and Grill applause line.

  183. Tex I’m famous for forgetting half the shit I say here but please find where I said Cruz was unqualified.

    I think Cruz is a “thou doth protest too much” religious phony. I think his Dad is a nut job and I think his endorsement of Trump’s candidacy after his wife had been insulted demonstrates a character flaw as wide as the Grand Canyon.

    The man has argued before the Supremes. I don’t doubt his intellect. It’s just that, similar to 90% of his colleagues, I don’t much like the man.

  184. It’s just that, similar to 90% of his colleagues, I don’t much like the man…,

    Tex, because he is religious and Republican.

    If we were to rule out men for the failures of their father, where would Barack Obama ended? This is why I think you have such little credence in the judgment of character – especially now that Obama has been so summarily rejected.

  185. Your CYA bullshit isn’t making you look any smarter. You didn’t know about JFK and Bernie Sanders didja, ya big dummy.

    Your heroes are fucking idiots, according to you.

  186. But the campaign is over

    If there is one thing we should all agree on it is that nowadays the campaign is never over.

  187. That much is true, Poolman. All campaigning, all the time. I’ll give Trump one thing. He made it to Nazi before he even became President. Even George Bush couldn’t do that if memory serves.

  188. Your heroes are fucking idiots, according to you.

    JFK is my hero?

    As for knowing about JFK and Sanders take on the CIA, you didn’t know it either. You researched it. One thing you’ve proven here is your excellent research skills.

    My basic premise remains. You made a dumb sweeping statement and you’re now so desperate to defend it you’re quoting your own political foes.

    As a great researcher once said, pathetic.

  189. Cruz reluctantly honoring a pledge he willingly made is a character flaw, according to Rutherford.

    I bet your husband is glad you ain’t running for office. A dumb political pledge is supposed to supersede loyalty to family. Yup.

    P.S. It’s to Jeb’s credit that he avoided throwing his brother under the bus. Further credit to W and 41 that they ditched the GOP convention.

  190. A “dumb political pledge?”

    Do you know what a pledge is? Its a solemn promise.

    Cruz did the right thing. I wouldnt judge anyone too harshly for having done so but some of those who signed the pledge did break their word. Theres no getting around that.

  191. “My basic premise remains.”

    What remains is the shit on your foot that you stepped in and then proceeded to put in your mouth.

  192. Muffy, the Tex Taylor school of argument doesn’t suit you. Find a new shtick. You might start by not making sweeping dumb comments designed to get a hard-on from your various boyfriends here. 😐

  193. The only thing which I believe its to Jeb’s credit is that I haven’t heard anything from his sorry ass since the election.

    It’s a strange world indeed where I find myself defending Bush to you. I might not have agreed with “Bush 45” policies up and down the line. But I can say with 99% certainty he would not have shamed the office of the president. I can’t say that with any level of certainty about the man taking the oath this Friday.

  194. Huck my comment was not in reference to you.
    That said your Politico piece is garbage serving as evidence of the utter downfall of journalism. It was disjointed,repetitive and never truly provided credible evidence.
    The definition of influence being what it is in the real world it can only mean something if backed by intent and value.
    Are we really supposed to believe the influence entities such as Sputnik,RT and PressTV have? I say no since their market share is demonstrably insignificant in the matter of a US election. Who the fuck did they influence and how is that outcome any different than where a fan of those publications was going to be? Influence equals zero!
    Compare that to the HuffPo idiotic Trump disclaimer and Brazile’s leaking of debate questions and I think there is a far more credible case of the US trying to influence the election.
    Internationally is the leaking of non-fake emails equal to the sitting US President declaring that a sovereign elections result will be met with a defined negative response that is damaging to that country?
    Which was more influential?
    And again let’s not forget the constant interference and influence peddling performed by the USA on other nations elections.
    The Obama Administration alone off the top of my head have tried to influence outcomes in:Russia,Iran,Israel,Venezuela,Honduras and Ukraine.
    Influence is being misused just as hacked is and I for one refuse to pay for another plate of shit at the table of faux Americana

  195. I agree with Alfie.

    I agree with Rutherford about Bush, but it is premature to weigh an assumption about Trump’s possible success or failure in the White House before he has even walked through the door.

    I have better things to worry about than the trash coming from our corporate news media.

    I rode an elephant last year and I would like to ski in an ice storm for the first time. It is too slick right now.

  196. Alfie: “I say no since their market share is demonstrably insignificant in the matter of a US election.”

    That’s obvious, since they backed the loser. The point isn’t that they had infuence…obviously they didn’t. It’s that they tried to have it. That, in itself, is a no-no.

  197. “Are we really supposed to believe the influence entities such as Sputnik,RT and PressTV have?”

    Is anyone claiming any of these entities were involved in attempts at influence? You bringing them up twice now is the only time I’ve seen it.

  198. Well they were (and probably lamely as Alfie points out), I think the point is the Ukrainians used other outlets/contacts. Alfie?

  199. It’s a strange world indeed where I find myself defending Bush to you. I might not have agreed with “Bush 45” policies up and down the line. But I can say with 99% certainty he would not have shamed the office of the president. I can’t say that with any level of certainty about the man taking the oath this Friday.

    I feel the same way about defending Trump…really, I do. Although I approve of many of his cabinet picks so far, so there is that.

    As for shaming the office, after Billy Jeff and his cigar diddling the interns, and Lord Zero bowing to foreign leaders, apologizing to the worst international actors, and swapping spit with Chavez and Castro, I’m pretty sure that the bar is set so low on that conduct that even Trump can negotiate it with ease.

  200. Ok I get it now. Appeals to authority (Kennedy, Sanders, Paul) should make me think killing the CIA is not a dumb idea.

    Ok, Muffy, since you share the opinion of such smart people, your idea has great merit. My bad.

  201. Is anyone claiming any of these entities were involved in attempts at influence? You bringing them up twice now is the only time I’ve seen it.

    Actually Huck, yes. The lib media has repeatedly mentioned RT as attempting to influence the election.

  202. Huck I think we’re missing each other again.
    Let me put it this way. My position is that I am personally sick of the dishonesty and hypocrisy of a big chunk of Americans who see a crime or at a minimum unethical behavior on behalf of other nations without seeing the 2’x6′ splinter springing from our collective eyes.
    I think it is also unbelievable that so much of the US media is somehow in utter denial of how egregious their efforts to influence US elections and policy etc.

    My earlier question that wasn’t aimed at anyone in particular still stands. How is the Russian use of RT and Sputnik (the former by the way that gave Lee Camp a gig),the Iranian use of PressTV,the Qatar use of Al Jazeera not the same as Radio Free Europe?
    Obama trying to influence the BREXIT vote was far and away more illegal & unethical than the Russians giving out the unaltered DNC emails. The former is a disgraceful intrusion on an ally the latter an act for the greater public good vis a vis transparency in government.
    I also have no respect for the side that thinks Bradley Manning and Assange were heroes when skewering Bush but now,NOW! Assange is a p.o.s. lol

    Bottomline back to the crux of our misunderstanding one another. I don’t accept the Russians actions as meant to influence the election. I find the actions to be on par with trying to assure their influence on global stage with a focus on achieving their interests

  203. @ Rabbit I’ve followed the Ukraine for some time now and I do sympathize with their plight. The thing is though I think a lot of what we see concerning Kiev is filtered through very western lenses and that distorts the view to say the least.
    The “star” of the linked Politico article just makes me wonder how much of what’s offered up was honest and what really motivated the behavior.

  204. This may surprise some but I think Muffy’s linked American Thinker opinion piece completely nailed it. 90% of the left’s reason for being is a belief in their moral superiority. To see that rejected in the form of the Trump election is too much for them to bear. When you hear words like “fear” or folks saying they can’t sleep at night, don’t take this as hyperbole. Many leftists are literally sick over this.

  205. “Ok I get it now. Appeals to authority (Kennedy, Sanders, Paul) should make me think killing the CIA is not a dumb idea.

    Ok, Muffy, since you share the opinion of such smart people, your idea has great merit. My bad.”

    LOL. Kinda like you always try to appeal to Alfies authority?

    Rather it was my attempt to educate you. My preference is for you to be of the opposite pov at all times.

  206. “I am the first to acknowledge that I didn’t crack the code in terms of reducing this partisan fever.” -Obama.

    You could say that.

  207. Not the first time he protested the smooth transition of power.

    Lewis “thought it would be hypocritical to attend Bush’s swearing-in because he doesn’t believe Bush is the true elected president.”

  208. Lewis “thought it would be hypocritical to attend Bush’s swearing-in because he doesn’t believe Bush is the true elected president.”

    Good catch. Lewis is an ass. Even those criticizing his MTP statement have to add the caveat “but he’s an icon”.

    I personally loved Trump’s tweet storm back at him. Reminded me of “I prefer folks who weren’t captured” regarding McCain. For Trump there are no sacred cows.

    The minute Bibi insults him, he’ll get his ass tweet-kicked too. 😀

  209. R, I found Muffy’s American Thinker piece a variation of the Tigre Liberal Consensus Theory. All sides believe they possess moral superiority. The rejection of that belief, however, is not the same. TLCT holds that that’s because the liberal belief that objective truth is determined by perceived consensus has been shattered. Admitting that the consensus doesn’t really exist is like the doomsday cult member trying to reconcile why the end of times didn’t occur as predicted. It must be that there was cheating, or “the majority” wasn’t reflected in the vote, or somehow voters were misled etc. It just can’t be that their beliefs don’t represent the consensus. That’s too unsettling.

  210. Here’s another dumbass, whitey hating bigot that I damn sure hope makes it to DNC Chair and assures Donald Trump 8 years – or another Republican who runs four years from now. Hard to believe FOX used to let idiot blather…frankly one of the biggest POS on the planet. 😆

  211. Tucker can be an obnoxious smartass BUT he scored a bullseye when he talked about poor Appalachian whites checking their privilege.

    Goddam Hillary was a hot mess. 😡

  212. BiC, is Dick the one I used to call the homicidal clown (based on his internet avatar)? I always liked that guy though he was brutal. I always thought he’d protect me in prison. 😊

  213. Trump charged that John Lewis has a crime ridden district. The left was outraged but barely mentioned the crime rate to correct Trump. An Atlanta newspaper tried to disprove Trump, but they had to back track because they used faulty news.

    Trump is right on his facts more often than not. I wonder if Donald has a hidden staff help.

  214. I work for free, Rabbit. Here’s a sampling of the Facebook responses I’ve received today for correcting the history and the record of the Hillary Clinton fans.

    FUCK YOU TROLL. Shitheels like you never have the balls to say anything to my face. You hide behind your shitty little keyboard jerking off your tiny limp dick, to pictures of trump, while hurling insults at people you wouldn’t have the balls to face in person. You’re a limp dick cock sucking pussy, I’ll bet nobody can stand you.

    This guy actually looks like a troll, the kind that live under bridges, so I reminded him of that too. 😈

  215. You guys are naturals. You’ve got the troll role down for sure. If you can capitalize on it, power to ya. It is considered a legitimate job in today’s culture and the government has plenty on its payroll. The disinformation occupation is probably the fastest growing segment of the work force. I’m certain many of you can profit from your talent. You could possibly rise to the ranks of ET’s go-to mick west. 😛

  216. Question for the room…

    If the earth is spinning faster than the speed of sound, how can you even talk to anyone east of you?

    Things that make you go hmmmmm. Or things that tell you your overlords are bullshitting you on a grand scale.

  217. If the earth is spinning faster than the speed of sound, how can you even talk to anyone east of you?

    For the same reason you don’t leap up and end up standing in California, Poolman…I’ll let you diddle with that one for awhile.

  218. Yesterday was funny. I started the morning seeing the usual level of outrage, this time over Trump not going to the National Black Museum on MLK day, because he said he was “busy”. Of course, they had to include mention of his spat with Lewis.

    But the museum outrage didn’t seem to have much leg after everyone found out that Trump was “busy” meeting with MLK III to discuss getting actual work done to help the black community and not just to make empty platitudes and appearances.

    I’m going to laugh my ass off when the old, rich, asshole, white, Republican guy ends up doing more for America’s blacks than its first black president did.

  219. Rutherford, this is a genuine question…

    Can you explain why there is a problem with Trump having told blacks they had nothing to lose by voting for him?

    I know it’s manufactured outrage, I just don’t get why/how.

  220. I’ll let you diddle with that one for awhile

    You can diddle until the sun goes down. I KNOW the reason.
    It is because the earth is NOT a spinning ball.

  221. It is because the earth is NOT a spinning ball.

    I finally figured out why you would perceive as much. Because your head is spinning at the same rate as the planet.

  222. “You can diddle until the sun goes down. I KNOW the reason.
    It is because the earth is NOT a spinning ball.”

    Well… It’s official…Any argument I can throw at Tex for the legalization of marijuana is pretty much toast. Thanks alot poolman. Now my only response I got for Tex is this

    Tex, FUCK YOU TROLL. Shitheels like you never have the balls to say anything to my face. You hide behind your shitty little keyboard jerking off your tiny limp dick, to pictures of marijuana seizures , while hurling insults at people you wouldn’t have the balls to face in person. You’re a limp dick cock sucking pussy, I’ll bet nobody can stand you.

  223. Actually that would be you too, since you profess to being a globehead. That, in spite of the claims in the Bible. I’ve read the creation story and there is no spin. The flood story… no spin. Tower of Babel… no spin. Judgment day… no spin.

    My God would let me know. He is my rock. My solid place. He tells me truth about this and this world as found in Psalm 19. The sun moves, not the earth.

    Just how far is the east from the west in your world, Tex?

  224. Judgment day… no spin.

    I don’t think that’s the spin on the spin there, Poolman. But I suppose you’re ready biblically to explain to all us pagans how God managed this without the earth spinning too…

    The sun and moon stood still in their habitation… Habakkuk 3:11.

    Now is that the sun and the moon stopped rotating, or what? You’ve got me all confused in your latest scientific hypotheses…

  225. You’re a smart guy, Tex. You should be able to figure this out.

    The earth is stationary and the sun and moon circle the center (north pole) as do the stars and ‘planets’. If they are spinning above, God reached out and stopped the spin of the heavens. He could even go backward.

    Think of a mobile over a baby crib.

  226. Well, this thread is ruined.

    Rutherford, please just respond to my question after you post a new blog. I’m not going to bother clicking to read this horseshit.

  227. Boredom doesn’t exist in my world. Only inquiry and discovery.

    The word you are looking for is uncomfortable or bothered.

  228. Only inquiry and discovery. And the occasional dip in to poverty while the planet remains stationary.

    Sorry about that, Huck. I’ll try to keep the Poolman retorts to a minimum. 😉

  229. BiC, is Dick the one I used to call the homicidal clown (based on his internet avatar)?

    The one and only.

    I always liked that guy though he was brutal.*

    He’s a lot like the older brother I never had.

    I always thought he’d protect me in prison.rent me out for cigarettes.*

    Fixed it for you. 😉

  230. I’m going to laugh my ass off when the old, rich, asshole, white, Republican guy ends up doing more for America’s blacks than its first black president did.

    I said to my wife yesterday “wouldn’t it be wild if Trump made Obamacare work?”

  231. Tex, I actually saw this exchange on Facebook yesterday.

    Person 1: Trump will be a GREAT president!
    Person 2: fuck you, you’re an asshole, goodbye.

    LOL all the dude said was he thought Trump would be great and that was the response he got.

  232. Damn! And I thought Poolman would keep his flat earth musings on the prior thread. 😡

    Can you explain why there is a problem with Trump having told blacks they had nothing to lose by voting for him?

    Huck, I can’t explain the black or gay aversion to Trump. Yes, Trump did use the term “my African-American” while saluting one of his supporters and the lib media combusted. But I don’t get it beyond that. Seriously, what does Chicago or Ferguson have to lose?

    I don’t get the gay opposition either. I don’t recall Trump ever saying anything anti-gay. Hell, the guy is a successful New Yorker – you know how many gays he deals with on a regular basis? I would assume A LOT.

  233. The gays in Trumps world are huge 😁
    Oh yeah,🌎🌍🌏🌎🌍🌏🌎🌍🌏🌎🌍🌏🌎🌍🌏🌑🌘🌖🌕🌘🌗🌓🌔🌎🌍🌍🌏🌎🌎

  234. There is a lot of gay in trump’s world. He is definitely involved and was seen predominately with Liberace, his mentor Ray Cohn, his Roger Stone relationship and the whole weirdness with Rudy Giuliani. It is funny that some of these associated with him have made public statements attesting to trump NOT being gay. I guess if his mannerisms weren’t so gay there would not be the need.

  235. Rutherford, I went to the prior thread to see if you had figured anything out after playing with your balls. If so, nothing at all was posted. It was a simple request. It only takes 2 balls to prove noon would shift to midnight and back to noon based on what globe theory assumes.

    I wasn’t asking you to prove anything difficult like water curving and defying level or sticking to the bottom of a ball. We all KNOW that has not and cannot be proved.

    Maybe consider why this topic upsets everyone else so… You said it mattered not to you.

  236. Isn’t Obama pathetic? 😆 😆 😆

    Commuting that mental deficient Manning. It’s so predictable too.

    If Trump has got the balls I think he does, wouldn’t surprise me for Manning to be headed to GITMO for the remainder of his term through May.

    Chelsea with the head loppers. For once, those stink beards might serve a useful purpose. 👿

  237. “If Trump has got the balls I think he does, wouldn’t surprise me for Manning to be headed to GITMO for the remainder of his term through May”.

    Doubtful. Unfortunately, part of Trump’s base are Manning fans.

    There are guys locked up for way less. But they aren’t of the lgbqt tranny heroes.

    The only debate is if he should he be executed or not.

    Obama and Clinton have done great damage to military discpline

  238. Filed under either “How fucking stupid are people” or “You really can’t make this shit up”…
    So famed democrat scumbag litigation nazi Allred is representing a woman who is suing Trump for defamation and distress. Because Trump called her a liar repeatedly and denied her charges of sexual assault she’s now suing,repeat for the distress and defamation not the alleged assault that dates 2007.

  239. Looks like we are getting setup for the next big fall…

    Donald Trump has announced another Goldman Sachs insider will join his administration.

    Anthony Scaramucci, also know as “The Mooch,” will serve as Donald Trump’s liaison to the financial class. The former hedge fund ringmaster will likely occupy Valerie Jarrett’s Office of Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs.

    Steve Bannon, Steven Mnuchin (who will head up the Treasury), Gary Cohn, and Jay Clayton worked for Goldman Sachs.

    How is the anti-establishment establishment supposed to fulfill its promise to restore the economy if its top people are former banksters and hedge fund managers?

    How are guys associated with a firm that packaged and sold toxic securities while betting they would fail and screw over investors good for America? How in the hell are they anti-establishment?

    “Investment banks were the driving force behind the structured finance products that provided a steady stream of funding for lenders originating high risk, poor quality loans and that magnified risk throughout the U.S. financial system. The investment banks that engineered, sold, traded, and profited from mortgage related structured finance products were a major cause of the financial crisis,” notes a report from the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, “Wall Street and the Financial Crisis: An Anatomy of a Financial Collapse.”

    I’m not sure how Scaramucci got his nickname. According to my dictionary, however, a mooch is somebody who gets stuff without paying for it.

    Sounds about right for a guy who worked for Goldman Sachs, the vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity.

    http://anotherdayintheempire.com/trump-recruits-another-goldman-sachs-bankster/

  240. I’m still trying to wrap my head around how DoD is supposed to retain and fully accommodate transgenders. I saw a report that put the annual pricetag @ $50 million.
    Don’t Ask Don’t Tell was awesome because it allowed good soldiers to go with Don’t Care. That allowed unit cohesion. I had straight and lesbian female superiors who I could still respect. I’m highly confident I served side by side with a few guys that were gay and at least one that was an aggressive bi. I can’t buy into the notion of a trans commander or fellow trooper.

  241. Yeah, I see your point. But the transgender thing takes us one step closer to transhuman, something the mic has been on for decades. I still can’t get how the DoD gets away calling itself that, since all it defends is the secrecy of its spending and actions. They ain’t protecting the constitution.

  242. “Rutherford, please just respond to my question after you post a new blog. I’m not going to bother clicking to read this horseshit.”

    Much like Chelsea Manning, we can’t wait to be free of this annoying dick.

  243. Lol… the military is a place where the tax payer can flip the bill for sex changes. Fucking surreal.

    It sounds like something conservative Uncle Eddie says on Facebook, but liberalism is destroying America. We’ve entered the madness stage that we all predicated.

    Is Civil War will the only fix?

  244. Regarding Coulters tweet, Bloomberg is to my knowledge a fiscal conservative.

    I saw an unknown woman on Samantha Bee’s show last week more deserving of Obama’s intervention than Manning. This woman got caught up in a nasty and unfair illegal alien situation, a victim of Obama’s seldom discussed deportation machine.

    The spin I heard was that Manning was losing her mind and BO wanted to show mercy by commuting but not pardoning.

    I wish he would pardon Snowden, a true patriot.

  245. I can only say this about Steve Harvey.

    Trump and Harvey are in the lobby of Trump Tower and reporters are grilling Trump about the cabinet confirmation hearings. At one point, Trump says something like “I want my nominees to speak their minds at the hearings. Don’t you agree, Steve?” And Harvey has this look on his face of “why the FUCK are you asking ME?”

    You wanna talk surreal? That’s surreal.

  246. As we get closer to Friday, I can’t help but fear many here are whistling past the graveyard. I think there’s a better than average chance this will not end well.

  247. Apparently according to Steve, Ben Carson is the nominee for head of “Housing for Urban Development”.

    It’s real important we find houses for all those urban developers. 🙄🙄

  248. “I think there’s a better than average chance this will not end well.”

    And the libtards are to blame for all of it, except success. Ain’t that a bitch?

  249. Why would anyone other than the CNN/MSNBC crowd pay attention to the Trump approval polling?

    You ought to see the Quinnipiac Trump policy “confidence poll” being touted by MSNBC as I type. The two categories: positive/extremely confident (30%) and negative/somewhat confident (70%). Got that? 70% might fit in the “somewhat confident” category.

    And now MSNBC is talking about the polling for how great Obama was. 😆

    TLCT. How the media works to “will” things the way they want them to be rather than how they really are.

  250. Re the Steve Harvey conversation. A friend was active in Trump’s Iowa campaign and spent a lot of time behind the state with Donald. Her son is a bright high school freshman who is seven feet tall.

    He impressed Trump who paid a lot of attention to him and said he needed a big guy like our friend for White House security.

    I assume Trump’s conversation with Steve Harvey was as much small talk with little meaning as his talks with our tall friend were.

    We did get a nice framed picture of the two of them for Christmas, but that is probably more than Steve Harvey got.

  251. This is already ending well. The Clinton Foundation has fallen into hard times, the Clintons are finished, much of Obama’s legacy may be dismantled, the corporate news media is in disarray and feeling angry, and entertainers are crossing into insanity.

    I knew we were finished no matter who won. If Trump pulls out a good surprise, it is a bonus.

  252. “You wanna talk surreal? That’s surreal.”

    Didn’t see it as a big deal. I do that all the time. Kind of liked it.

  253. @ Rutherford my only take away is Trump has had a LOT of black folks in to talk about the inner city. Although I think this ignores blacks that are not in the inner city its undeniable that Trump is putting himself in the sughts of a number of folks that will call him out if he balks.

  254. The guy Hill lists a group of fucks who are the epitome of blacks ignorant of blacks. Hell its even worse when you think of folks like West and Dyson.
    I am absolutely enjoying the show of interest groups pissing themselves over Trump. In Boston the latest version of the Kennedy clan bitch slapped his fellow Dems and they were all like “Whhhaaaaat”?
    I swear if the GOP fucks up this opportunity they deserve to die along with the democrats old guard and proggie morons.

  255. I swear if the GOP fucks up this opportunity they deserve to die along with the democrats old guard and proggie morons.

    Couldn’t agree more, Alfie. Sitting ducks, with a lead weight attached to necks, waiting to be blasted off the frozen pond their asses are frozen in.

    And somehow, some Republicans will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory…

  256. One of my posts elsewhere today:

    One of the drawbacks of practicing law in Washington is my forced membership in a political organization that I often disagree with as a condition to making a living. I’m talking about the Washington State Bar Association, a professional organization which is technically non-partisan, but frequently seems to find ways to advocate for political positions despite the prohibition on it doing so.

    This means that our monthly practice publication frequently features pieces on various matters near and dear to the hearts of social justice warriors everywhere, frequently without the balance of opposing positions, but every now and then, we also get to fund continuing education programs which jump the shark as well, like this one, which found its way into my inbox today:

    “LGBTQ Rights and the New Administration:

    Are you wondering about potential legal issues ahead for your LGBTQ clients under the new administration in Washington, D.C.? Get the perspectives and insights of experienced attorneys in this 90-minute webinar and be better prepared to advise and advocate for your clients. You’ll get an overview of the last four years and a look ahead, on both the federal and state level, on issues relating to employment, education and Title 9, housing, identity documents, and privacy, and the state of marriage.”

    It really shouldn’t take a genius to figure out that the incoming administration will have little effect, if any, on these “issues”, especially since one of the new President’s most vocal supporters is the most cutting, flamboyantly openly gay men since Paul Lynde.

    Enough with the hysteria, already.

  257. I watched some of the Senate hearings and offer the following observations:
    The (D)’s are absolutely pathetic.
    Gillebrand is an idiot. I think she means well but she’s just too much.
    Pruitt is a great choice for EPA. An executive appointee that actually believes Congress should make rules…the fucking horror the democrats were trying to cope with was hilarious.
    Ross will die in office within 90 days or at least get lost somewhere in Commerce Department. The guy looks unwell and feeble.
    Murray of Washington is a lying piece of dung. What an absolute C_ _ T! I would take Lizzie Warren out to dinner before I could stand living in Washington state. (apologies & condolences to BIC)
    and for our host…
    Bernie Sanders has shown himself to be one of the most unapologetic un-American humps and a total curmudgeon who will only better this world when he (Hopefully very soon) dies and decomposes thus finally enriching at least some portion of this country.
    He has the temperament of a killer bee hive,the humanity of Goebbels and the IQ of a pile of cow shit. What an outlandish drama queen scumbag he is. I always thought he was just a whiney New York Jew stuck in the vortex of liberal self loathing but he really is a fucking nut job.

  258. Didn’t see it as a big deal. I do that all the time. Kind of liked it.

    So let me see if I’ve got this straight. It’s parent teacher night and I’m sitting in Rabbits classroom to discuss my daughters problems with history. As Rabbit explains to me what he thinks my daughter can do to improve her grades, he turns to his car mechanic who happens to be there and he says “don’t you agree Joe?”

    Yup.

  259. In Trump’s defense, and God knows he needs one, the reason he’s talking to celebs (Harvey, Don King) is that black politicians have zero interest in improving the ghetto. Their profession thrives on grievance. Black celebs on the other hand can serve as ghetto ambassadors and help Trump get in there and make some change.

  260. LOL, atypically Alfie you offered a lot of D-Senate ad hominem character assassination without much substance. About Bernie in particular.

    I kinda chuckled when he asked DeVos if she’d even be in front of the committee if she weren’t rich. 😀

  261. “he turns to his car mechanic who happens to be there and he says “don’t you agree Joe?” R

    Yup. Do it all the time, if it’s common sense shit I’m talking.

    Now like Trump, the only question is why I’m with my mechanic in the first place.

  262. “Al Franken says she don’t know shit about education policy”

    I’d answer, but I have know idea what she knows about policy. I hope she knows more than I do.

  263. I thought of a flaming queen–Catlin Jenner. Without the final surgery, she is still technically a man, and even after that, unless she is an intersex she still has xy chromosomes.

  264. Alfie has plenty of supporting evidence. It is in back issues of newspapers and old videos.

    Patty Murray may have won her first election with stolen votes as Al Frankin did.

    I wrote “may” and that makes my charge as accurate as some conjecture about Trump’s Russian adventures with Russian prostitutes. I think Putin said they are some of the best in the world.

  265. I listened to Lizzy Fauxcahontas this morning. What an embarrassment. She’s doing herself and her party no favors with that lame haranguing. In fact, the whole shit show coming from the dems is an embarrassment. There’s certainly some points to be scored along the way if they wanted, but this juvenile bullshit ain’t gonna do it.

  266. Hopefully McConnell has talked some sense into McCain & Graham and has 51 votes for all of the nominees that require senate confirmation.

    These hearings prove that there is no working with the D senators.

  267. That makes it all the sweeter. 48 no votes, straight across the board.

    What the Republicans ought to do as counter offer is simply bundle the package and say all in for the Harry Reid vote one vote, all appointees. Next.

    Time to start pissing on the Obama trash that is left over…

  268. Murray of Washington is a lying piece of dung. What an absolute C_ _ T! I would take Lizzie Warren out to dinner before I could stand living in Washington state. (apologies & condolences to BIC)

    No apology necessary. I heard her exchange with Pryce over the stock purchase yesterday morning, and wrote this:

    Once again, Senator Murray demonstrates why she is dumber than a bag of hammers.
    I have real issues with how hundredthousandaires go to Congress, and become millionaires in a short period of time. Of course it is because they have access to information not available to the general public, and act upon it, and of course, because of the magic of their position, they aren’t prosecuted for insider trading.
    That being the case, it would have taken one of her numerous staffers all of five minutes to figure out that a “private placement” isn’t necessarily the same thing as a sweetheart deal, or somehow illegal. What it is is a way for a company to issue additional stock without going through the prospectus process by offering stock to statutorily qualified investors. The only thing that is significant about the news that he purchased the second round of stock through a private placement is that his net worth is significant enough to make him qualified to participate in such an offering…a fact that was probably made abundantly clear through other financial disclosures that he probably had to go through as part of the process. I think that both my senators are dim bulbs, but only this one seems determined to prove it at every opportunity.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/sen-patty-murray-grills-rep-tom-price-on-innate-immunotherapeutics-stock/vi-AAlZnQ4

  269. I kinda chuckled when he asked DeVos if she’d even be in front of the committee if she weren’t rich.

    My retort back to him would have been “Well, Senator, I know you wouldn’t be ON the committee and asking me that question unless you were able to make a very lucrative living in government, sucking deeply on the public teat.”

    BiC who’s the flaming queen you say supports Trump?

    Milo Y.

    Patty Murray may have won her first election with stolen votes as Al Frankin did.

    To borrow a paraphrase from America’s Ex Wife, it really doesn’t make a difference now. She is the epitome of King-Pierce-Snohomish County Feel-Good Leftism, and the sad reality is when the candidate that fits that description loses in this state, King County elections will be sure to find thee necessary votes on the ubiquitous recounts to make sure that the situation is rectified.

  270. Sami singer Sofia Jannok has called these people foreign occupiers, and I have repeated her charge several times.

    In my opinion, the left refuses to accept the results of an election and by various plans, including stolen votes, is trying to incite a movement to negate the votes of over half of Americans.

    CNN with a story referring to “Designated Survivor” further supports the charge that those people are false Americans. Or as Sofia Jannak has said “foreign occupiers.”

  271. Rutherford, regarding Trump and Harvey, I think you’re focusing on the wrong part of the comment.

    Don’t see it as he wants THEM (the appointees) to say what they think, see it as he wants them to say WHAT THEY THINK.

    And what did Trump do after he said that? He got into an elevator and let Steve Harvey decide whether or not he wanted to take questions and speak to what HE thought.

    I especially notice that last part. People are accusing Trump of just wanting those celebs and athletes there for photo ops. But Trump is not appearing with them while they take questions. He sees his guest out like a good host does, and then he goes back up. His presence doesn’t influence the questions, nor the answers.

  272. Also, imagine this…

    Trump and Harvey meet upstairs and have a discussion. Harvey asks, “why have you asked me here, Mr. President-Elect?”

    Trump responds, “I want to help the black community, as I promised, and I’d like your help.”

    Harvey asks, “How can I possibly help?”

    And Trump tells him, “Just tell me what you think and be honest.”

    If he used those types of words in their private meeting, then the “right Steve?” in public has a lot more context.

  273. I’m getting a hoot out of the patriotic bikers storming DC. I have visions of sugar plums dancing in my head.

    Like a repeat of Altamont where a bunch of bikers club some lefties to death to usher in the Trump Era. 😈

  274. It is cute how all the republicans for life are now gleeful for hope and change.

    Trump has always been more of a celebrity than anything else. He is master at playing the media. They are some of those he mingles with in his social circles. He is not new to acting at all. He has had the most practice at it his entire life. This is just his biggest role evah.

    Opening night jitters…

    But it is cute watching the bandwagon run its previctory lap.

  275. Hucks comment reminded me of what I was going to say about it –

    Not surreal at all, very real. A small social grace. Charming.

  276. Sorry but I’m not impressed with the griping about Murray and Warren. The HHS secretary should have no stake in the success of any health connected company. It is perfectly legit to explore such conflicts of interest in the confirmation hearing.

  277. Rutherford I obviously don’t see where I’m off base. I’m willing to be fair on what outraged me regarding the hearings though. Fucking Republicans all in and demanding submission at the altar of the 🌽 gods. Fucking ethanol is a scam and national disgrace but team Trump has jumped upon that spear.

  278. Eight years of the government’s sticking its enema hose up every workingman’s arse will be over in less than 24 hours.

    The end of an error.

  279. Eight years of the government’s sticking its enema hose up every workingman’s arse will be over in less than 24 hours.

    Not only hope and change, but a deluge of drunken delusion.

    When has the government ever retreated from its encroachment into our lives? Everything is still in the hands of the establishment. Just because the other team is at bat doesn’t mean the game has changed one iota.

    Remember, trump swings both ways politically. And he thinks bibi and epstein terrific guys.

  280. Sorry but I’m not impressed with the griping about Murray and Warren. The HHS secretary should have no stake in the success of any health connected company. It is perfectly legit to explore such conflicts of interest in the confirmation hearing.

    It was less about a potential conflict of interest, and more about her insinuation that there was something untoward or illegal about the private placement offering.

    But, R., I would actually invite a SERIOUS conversation about “conflicts of interest”, but for it to be serious, it needs to be applied to BOTH sides in Congress. The insider trading laws need to be applied to them, as well as everyone else. Spread the outrage, and demand that reform, and I’d be happy to fight that fight with you.

    BTW, LIzzie Warren is a shitty standard bearer for the fight against financial corruption…until she’s willing to admit she parlayed her white female privilege into a native american teaching gig that was very, very lucrative, and pay it back, with interest, to a REAL native american professor, like Ward Churchill, I really don’t give a good god damn what that ignoramus has to say about financial matters.

  281. NY Times says Rick Perry didn’t understand what job he got nominated for. If true, he is one dumb fuck. Or as he would say: “oops”.

    The gullible Gruberites believe stupidity like that. Wishing for and what is are two different things…Damn Rutherford, you ought to at least let Trump into office before you revert back to what you do best – rank propaganda, Romney style.

  282. There are no pedigreed, pure-blooded people of any race. It all depends on how far you look back; there will be a common ancestor – which is why, of course, that racial preferences of any kind make no sense.

  283. NY Times says Rick Perry didn’t understand what job he got nominated for. If true, he is one dumb fuck. Or as he would say: “oops”.

    I’m not surprised at their spin on it. What he actually said was that he didn’t understand all the duties performed by the DoE before this, which is fine, as I’m quite certain that 99% of Americans couldn’t without doing the research.

    I doubt that most Americans would understand the role of the DoE with respect to the nation’s nuclear arsenal, and would likely rightly wonder why it isn’t the purview of the DoD.

    “In fact, after being briefed on so many of the vital functions of the Department of Energy, I regret recommending its elimination.”

  284. Yahoo Finance article:

    Chinese Billionaire Jack Ma Says the US Wasted Trillions on Warfare Instead of Investing in Infrastructure.

    $14 T, to be reasonably exact. Current debt estimated at 19-20T.

    Drill your own oilfields; stay out of the Towelheads’ countries, mind your own business, and don’t engage in “regime-change” meddling, and you won’t have to spend that kind of money shooting the bastards. Then you can fix your Interstates.

  285. “Ace is replaying election night. And it rawks.”

    It was such a crazy night. I kept telling my wife as he was winning state after state, “this isn’t supposed to happen” and giggling like a schoolgirl.

  286. Lurker’s husband forgot their wedding anniversary. She got very angry and said, “Tomorrow morning, there had better be a gift in that driveway that goes 0 to 200 in less than six seconds.

    The next morning, she looked out the window and there lay a gift wrapped box in the middle of the driveway. Lurker opened and found a brand new bathroom scale.

  287. Eight years of the government’s sticking its enema hose up every workingman’s arse will be over in less than 24 hours.

    Have your politics changed since the old days? I thought you were always more concerned with the conservative proclivity to meddle in what goes in your ass?

  288. Drill your own oilfields; stay out of the Towelheads’ countries, mind your own business, and don’t engage in “regime-change” meddling, and you won’t have to spend that kind of money shooting the bastards. Then you can fix your Interstates.

    But I thought they hate us for our freedom? 🙄🙄🙄

  289. I’m setting my alarm and waking up early tomorrow to watch the festivities. I might even watch MSNBC for the actual swearing in, so I can see those idiots shit themselves.

  290. I blocked off tomorrow to watch history being made. Then, tomorrow evening, another gymnastics meet.

    I’m feeling a sense of dread about the comihg days and it has nothing to do with my political leanings. My Facebook feed is devoid of any joy or optimism. The conservatives are shitting on Obama one last time and the libs are out of control. I’m going to bed tonight considerably depressed.

  291. R: “But I thought they hate us for our freedom? ”

    No, they hate us because we are arrogant meddlers – and as you imply, the Obama admin may not be the worst.

  292. “Have your politics changed since the old days? I thought you were always more concerned with the conservative proclivity to meddle in what goes in your ass?”

    LOL. Great comeback. Frankly, I missed arguing with people with brains.

    But to your point: There’s a difference between what goes in the tradesman’s entrance for fun and what the gub’ment sticks in there to suck the life out of you.

    Don’t be so depressed, R. Take a few minutes to really, really think about the Trump admin. The Left is losing its mind, and they will tell ANY lie – or distort what he has said – but if you listen with an open mind, you will see that none of it’s true. He has said nothing disparaging about queers, and was very sympathetic in his comments about the Orlando shooting. (Pence may be another story, though.) He went right into the black churches and told them straight from the shoulder, “People don’t need checks; they need jobs.” And he got quite a bit of black support. He has no interest – or very little – in outlawing abortion, IMHO. Yes, he likes pussy, and sometimes can’t keep his mouth shut, but I’ll spot him both of those; he is a man, not a robot, and has faults.

    The fact is that the best way for this country – and you, R – to do well is to take the chains off of commerce and let the builders (like Trump himself) do what they do. It will be good for everybody. I’m amped. Three more house to go.

    Anybody notice that Obama has NOT pardoned Hillary? Why do you think that is?

  293. If you think the useless Left is shitting bricks at the idea of Don Trump as President, the Mexicans are puckering bricks. Little coincidental that El Chapo makes it to Brooklyn the day of the inauguration, hey? 😛

    Reminds me a little of a new President in 1981 when Iran suddenly got nice and let a bunch of hostages go.

  294. “Lurker’s husband forgot their wedding anniversary. She got very angry and said, “Tomorrow morning, there had better be a gift in that driveway that goes 0 to 200 in less than six seconds.”

    You would enjoy watching him move into a medium sized dog house with all his belongings. I’m sure he wishes he had taken my advice to insulate it.

  295. It appears that the Left’s plan to disrupt the inauguration has fallen 100% on its ass. You cannot even hear them faintly in the background. Zip. Nothing. Nada.

    Interesting: Yesterday, when Trump was placing the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier – and Fox News was covering it – I flipped over to CNN – the whole time they were covering the Marine Band’s setting up on the stage. And they wonder why nobody trusts them anymore … feh.

  296. The theme of MSNBC’s coverage…”dark”

    Trump’s speech was “dark”.

    It’s “dark” to tell other countries that they have the right to put their own interests first, and it’s our right to do the same…and we will.

    It’s “dark” to tell criminals that our streets are going to get cleaned of crime, gangs, and drugs.

    It’s “dark” to not try and unite those, who as MSNBC admitted, will never support him.

    Let the games begin….

  297. Damn Huck, you just couldn’t resist watching the pain, could you? 😆 The sink I decided could wait until this afternoon. I missed the speech, but I saw the part I wanted to see.

    Barack Obama being flown away.

    And the look of Hillary Clinton’s face during the ordeal was music to my heart.

  298. Trump’s speech was definitely provocative — too much so for my taste. I’m told it is not dissimilar to Reagan’s which I have no recollection of at all. But I knew as it was being delivered the more liberal the media, the more bananas they’ll go over it. It’s all they know.

    Maybe Obama shouldn’t have spent the last two weeks trashing Trump and diminish Trump supporters. Oh, well. The 8-year national nightmare has come to an end. Obama can get the fuck out now — just keep an eye on the towels and silverware, especially if there are Clintons around.

    Was Pelosi wearing a giant “Hillary” pin?

  299. I found the inauguration speech fascinating. Unusually dark for an inaugural speech. Putting that aside, it was pro-American and discordant in light of eight years of “humble America” rhetoric.

    I can see how it will be refreshing to stop apologizing for being who we are. A CEO doesn’t apologize for his power and it looks like the country that leads the free world will stop apologizing for its power.

  300. Did you see the pain on that nag’s face walking down those steps? For a micro-second, I actually felt a bit of sympathy for Hillary Rotten – for a picosecond.

    And then my mind cleared and I remembered all of the horrible things this shrew has done to people over the years.

  301. Happy Inauggie Day y’all!

    I didn’t see the speech but I’m all settled in for an afternoon of recaps, recraps, and Baileys & coffee. Let the proggie grief porn begin.

    Melania and a Ralph Lauren sky blue classic – a match made in heaven. And the updo – fabulous. In your face Hollywood.

    I hope someone gave Bernie that tacky rumpled parka to wear outside.

    Evidently this is the fashion segment of Muffys Recrap.

    And now a toast to Big Balls. Cheers!

  302. A CEO doesn’t apologize for his power and it looks like the country that leads the free world will stop apologizing for its power.

    Why is it called the free world when banksters are in charge? That is just another Orwellian.

    A CEO is obligated to his investors and stock holders for his actions performed while in office. Any misuse of power must be addressed and appropriate disciplinary actions administered. Abusive policies must be abolished and destructive processes reversed.

    We will certainly see rather quickly going forward who our newest selected is obligated to.

  303. LOL I love how the liberal blog owner is one of the only ones here to watch the speech, besides Tigre.

    Huck “dark” was used for a reason. The inaugural is typically not the time to paint a dystopian vision of America from which the new POTUS will rescue us.

    This speech is ripe for cherry picking. The key takeaway for the optimist is that patriotism trumps misogyny and bigotry. When we unite as Americans we cease to be black vs white, etc.

    95 protesters already arrested in DC today.

  304. I found the inauguration speech fascinating. Unusually dark for an inaugural speech.

    Having just read the full transcript, I have to ask:

    What, exactly, did you find “dark” about it?

    I can see how it will be refreshing to stop apologizing for being who we are.

    It was refreshing to read a speech by the President that contained zero “Me”s or “My”s, and exactly ONE “I”.

    Bra-fucking-OH!

  305. A proud day in America. A bright day for humanity as a whole. We know from public discussion his genitals are not too small to save us from all that is evil in our world.

    Bravo. We are in terrific hands, baby.

  306. The key takeaway for the optimist is that patriotism trumps misogyny and bigotry. When we unite as Americans we cease to be black vs white, etc.

    And here you come to the difference between progs/liberals/lefties/Demcong and the rest of us.

    Surely you recall previous conversations about hyphenated Americanism? The former named above uses it as a means to divide us and create a hierarchy of victimhood (albeit one where the various subgroups are constantly jockeying for position)…the better to keep them focused on themselves and each other and themswhat are doing the dividing. The latter understand that when we focus on being American, and the rights and freedoms we have, we actually can have a great deal more control over our own destinies.

    Its amazing what you can achieve when you no longer empower an ideology that tells you you can’t, and you only can have what they deign to let you have, out of their great graciousness and benevolence.

  307. Oh and the obvious observation: the speech was populist on steroids. Incidentally, I liked that tone. A citizen president giving the government back to the people. It remains to be seen how much of that turns out to be bullshit.

  308. A citizen president giving the government back to the people.

    The perfect script for the times. What a coincidence…

  309. “What, exactly, did you find “dark” about it?”

    That’s the term supplied by MSNBC, along with Hitlerian and anti-semitic.

    And the dems wonder why they lost.

  310. The inaugural is typically not the time to paint a dystopian vision of America from which the new POTUS will rescue us.

    Or, it is a recognition of how America outside of the Left’s coastal enclaves and the 9 richest zip codes on the country (surrounding the nation’s capital) has been affected by the last decade or so…a recognition which helped put him there in the first place, btw.

    For too long, a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered, but the jobs left and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs. And while they celebrated in our nation’s capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

    (APPLAUSE)

    That all changes starting right here and right now because this moment is your moment, it belongs to you.

  311. “It was refreshing to read a speech by the President that contained zero “Me”s or “My”s, and exactly ONE “I”.”

    Amen.

    And no finger-wagging and lecturing about the majority’s so-called failings.

  312. BiC you conveniently forget the speech that catapulted Obama to fame in 2004. The entire theme was a rejection of identity politics. You weren’t impressed then. Now, you’re impressed. 🙄

  313. BiC you conveniently forget the speech that catapulted Obama to fame in 2004. The entire theme was a rejection of identity politics. You weren’t impressed then. Now, you’re impressed. 🙄

    Funny…it had no resemblance to the way he governedruled.

    Odd, that…unless you paid attention to Candidate Obama in 2007, who managed to force America to prefer to be sexist, rather than racist when he pushed Hillary aside then.

  314. That 2004 speech is where I was introduced to Obama. It took him being selected to show his true colors. Many of trump’s colors have been revealed to us already. We just need to see how he uses them to paint this country going forward.

    Words are no longer a valuable currency in the mouths of our selecteds.

  315. Lord Zero’s 1st Inaugural, 2009:

    “That we are in the midst of crisis is now well understood. Our nation is at war, against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred. Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some, but also our collective failure to make hard choices and prepare the nation for a new age. Homes have been lost; jobs shed; businesses shuttered. Our health care is too costly; our schools fail too many; and each day brings further evidence that the ways we use energy strengthen our adversaries and threaten our planet.”

    Oooooohhhhhhh, daaaaark. Dystopian….oooooohhhhh.

  316. That’s the term supplied by MSNBC, along with Hitlerian and anti-semitic.

    For the record, DURING the speech and BEFORE any MSNBC commentary I turned to my wife and said “wow is this dark”. Not everyone expected from the speech a litany of America’s woes.

  317. And no finger-wagging and lecturing about the majority’s so-called failings.

    LOL Trump gesticulates more than about any public speaker I’ve ever seen.

    And the “majority” soon won’t be. If you listen to the pundits, that social shift is causing some tension.

  318. Well, finally criticism leveled at the politicians and government for their failings, not the American people that let their government down. The Obama kindergarten teacher scoldings are puke worthy. Good riddance.

  319. Words are no longer a valuable currency in the mouths of our selecteds.

    An MSNBC talking head remarked America is getting tired of soaring oratory. I don’t blame them. I’ve liked Obama and even I have been moved to say on occasion, “please shut the fuck up.”

  320. It was only dark if you were an Obama toady – no pun intended. Rutherford, you found Trump’s speech dark because deep down you’re personally vested in that massive failure that flew off today.

    You didn’t like it because it ripped Obama’s governance.

  321. Yes, I know you disagree.

    Strange…I read his litany, and I cannot see a SINGLE thing listed which was improved during his time in office.

    Failing schools are still failing, despite the vast amounts of federal and state money tossed at the problem.

    Fewer people of working age in the work force than when he came into office, and many people who used to be full time now part time due to ObamaDoesntCare.

    Health Care isn’t cheaper; and in fact, the ballooning premiums and deductibles under ObamaDoesntCare means that fewer people can afford to see the doctor than before the government took their policies that they were promised they could keep away from them.

    Businesses are still going away, this time because of increased costs imposed on them by ObamaDoesntCare, and forced sick leave and minimum wage policies.

    People are still losing houses, albeit fewer than when the bubble expanded by Dems cashing in on Fannie/Freddie and mandates to loosen lending criteria collapsed in 2008.

    Government, and the rent-seekers who make their living helping to divide money that belongs to neither are the poster children for destructive greed.

  322. You didn’t like it because it ripped Obama’s governance.

    No, he could have been as petty and small as Obama frequently proved himself to be.

    He merely cataloged the things that need to be improved.

    And did so in a way that focused on our common interests in doing so, rather than what we needed to do at government’s direction and behest.

  323. A blogger wrote and Europeans have also observed that unlike most other countries, the United States is rootless with no long history of institutions and ruling elites. This creates a unique culture of refugees and opportunists without the long familial history of the majority of countries.

    As a result, our nation has created an archtypal hero or anti- hero like Clint Eastwood’s High Plains Drifter or Zorro. Such a character is relatively independent of the established order, will cross the line of legality, and will do anything possible to establish a more equable society. Jessi James, whom residents of our county still have fond memories was a real-life character who shared a commonality with Donald.

    Trump’s election without violence supports the supposition of American exceptionalism.

    You may disagree with me, but you have to agree I am the first here to compare Donald Trump to Jessi James.

  324. This better be true.

    NEW: Senate to debate and vote on the nomination of Rep. Mike Pompeo for CIA Director Monday; CIA Director Brennan has already resigned. -ABC NEWS

  325. I hope so.

    The depression of the losers
    matches my own for eight years. Shadenfreude is so strong, I should ask God for forgiveness.

    CBS reported that the Russians hacked Democratic e mails to hurt Hillary’s campaign. Trump was a surprise.

    The Russians still suffer from an inferiority complex dating back to Catherine The Great’s era. The man interviewed said Trump is an unknown quantity but they think he will treat Russia with more respect than Obama and Hillary did.

  326. Not by name, BIC, but by message it was crystal clear Donald Trump was rejecting just about everything Barack Obama did and stood for.

    And I found both the blunt and true message refreshing.

  327. You may disagree with me, but you have to agree I am the first here to compare Donald Trump to Jessi James.

    You are the first to compare them here, it’s true. But they are not too dissimilar. They share a common bond with many the elites, including a great deal of our founders. Freemasonry. George Washington was a freemason first, before anything else. Even dc shares that common bond openly displayed in sacred geometry and the widespread occult symbolism. Look no further than our currency for continuity.

    The speech was compared to Bane’s from Batman. I found that interesting.

    Why do people even swear or take oaths on a Bible? It is a perversion. The very book itself says NOT to do such a thing in 2 places that I know. Well they claim donald is a Christian too. The bar is pretty low in man’s mind. Fortunately it hasn’t been lowered. At all.

  328. We will keep an eye on his progress moving forward. It is one thing to say you are returning power to the people and another thing altogether to actually do that. Many in the past have said the same and it did not happen. Those who tried were marginalized or eliminated. I will be very surprised if he does follow through. But until then, his words are just that. That so many fawn over them is no different than those who fawned over the spoken words of obama.

    As he speaks about bringing business back to this county he presently owes deutsches bank $365 million. His choices for cabinet are far from anti establishment. So far it appears he’s just another source of hot air.

  329. “Not by name, BIC, but by message it was crystal clear Donald Trump was rejecting just about everything Barack Obama did and stood for.”

    I thought Trump was pointing out Obama’s failures nearly point by point from his 2009 inaugural speech.

  330. They say only about 250,000 people attended the inauguration compared to over a million in 2013 and 1.8 million in 2009. Hotels are only 66 percent and half of those are there for the protest march tomorrow.

    I’d say the turnout reflects the current downturn in approval of politics, politicians, and government in general. Soon there will be no participation except for those who are part of the system.

  331. You could also compare Trumpists with the Menshevics who overthrew the Romanovs ( Our Republican and Democratic elits ) to create a Democracy.

    Or one hopes, Trump supporters are more like Bolshevics without the guns and dogma. They were committed to destroying the dictatorship, and the Menshavic successors who in their opinions were too weak too survive.

    They swept the old order away. Trump and his allies could do the same thing with a united majority committed to good works and results we can all see.

  332. Unlike other politicians who made big promises, Trump has a majority in Congress, the Supreme Court and will have majorities in lower courts too.

    He sometimes makes outrageous statements as negotiating ploys, and like Mohamed Ali he knows how to feint and attack.

    I think Trump has the potential for keeping enough of his promises to improve his and Republican poll numbers, but the time is short. He needs to show progress in under 100 days.

  333. Poolman, yes, with Trump, anything is possible. He could take us into a new golden age or he could be impeached within the year.

  334. Someone asked earlier why Obama didn’t pardon Hillary. No surprise there. To pardon her implies she did something worthy of pardon. He would NOT want to do that.

  335. “Someone asked earlier why Obama didn’t pardon Hillary. No surprise there. To pardon her implies she did something worthy of pardon. He would NOT want to do that.”

    You still don’t get it. You ever wonder what Obama’s Internet pseudonym was? He would have to pardon himself. Since he was the Boss…He’s more guilty than Clinton. He already was caught lying. The case is there. And oh man, to find out the real reason they decided to do what they did, if “operation cover up” (yes, it was called that by at least one tech) never happened….

  336. The Obamas and Clintons looked angry and sullen during parts of Trump’s attack. I hope they continue to suffer.

    Obama submitted to Saudi Arabian foreign policy by supporting Wahibai inspired rebels to take down the Assad regime in Syria. Assad was fighting for survival and his accepting help from his patrons gave Russia a much more important role in the evolution of the Middle East destiny than they enjoyed before. It was another step in Putin’s attempt to return Russia to its former role as the United State’s most important super power rival.

    We know the damage Obama and Hillary did to countries like Libya, and we also know that they are partly responsible for maybe 300,000 deaths around Syria and for the hordes of Syrian refugees destabilizing Europe.

    One side effect was Brexit and the possible collapse of the liberal system which has ruled much of Europe since WW11.

    I don’t think in this respect the miscreants are any more aware than the trained monkey, Debra Messing. The president and defeated candidate were ashen faced not because they realized the enormity of the damage they had inflicted. They were hurt and angry because they lost and Trump was singling them out for criticism.

    I agree with Rabbit.

  337. I give Obama one thing. I admit the man can hold it together in front of a crowd. We all know he’s a POS behind the scenes – petty, thin skinned and mean spirited. But when Trump was done with his speech, after ripping DC and especially Obama a new one, I saw the man say, “Good job.”

    I would have loved to have heard that conversation when those two a_holes were flying off. 😆 I bet there was a lot of ‘hood’ talk.

    Obama and Clinton are the consummate politicians.

  338. In 1949, President Truman picked the same Bible he used in 1945 when he was sworn in upon the death of President Franklin Roosevelt, and he opened it to Matthew 5 (the Beatitudes).

    http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2017/01/how-presidents-use-bibles-at-inaugurations/

    This is significant of the ignorance or intentional mockery of God’s Word. The red letter words in chapter 5 of Matthew verse 34 says:

    “But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all:

    It goes on to say let your answer be a simple yes or no. This is reiterated in James 5:12.

    I am curious how many of these leaders actually know the significance of what they do.

  339. Unlike other politicians who made big promises, Trump has a majority in Congress, the Supreme Court and will have majorities in lower courts too.

    If you are operating under the presumption that he is a conservative, then no, he doesn’t have The Court, or the lower courts either.

    If you are operating under the presumption that he is a Republican, the same is true.

    Lord Zero is the one who came into office with control of the Congress and the judicial branch.

  340. “Someone asked earlier why Obama didn’t pardon Hillary. No surprise there. To pardon her implies she did something worthy of pardon. He would NOT want to do that.”

    First, that’s a non sequitur.

    Second, hogwash. Obama could easily justify a pardon as a method of sparing his former secretary of state and the public the humiliation and process of a another investigation and persecution by an incoming regime that’s supporters chant “lock her up.” He could easily sell it on a “no guilt” basis.

    Obama didn’t do it because he and his were complicit and wouldn’t leave them hanging out there, and the Clintons are corrupt and suck balls.

    Now you dimwits want to open a Comey investigation? Methinks you’ll regret that. You guys can no longer just proclaim something a nothingburger and walk away from you illegality and corruption. Elections have consequences, remember?

    Now get in the back seat. 😆

  341. I am not operating under the presumption that Trump is a conservative or even a Republican. I am operating under the assumption that Trump likes to win, and that he may actually believe a few of his promises.

    Many Congress critters want to stay in office and have come to enjoy perks of the majority. Most won elections with a few promises which their supporters more fervently than usual want kept. An instinct for self preservation dictates that they will continue the struggle if Trump falters,and bolster his resolve. Ben Franklin’s warning applies today, Republicans “must hang together or we will surely hang separately.”

    It is a long shot, but I believe this is our last chance to avoid the political fate of the White Russians.

  342. Lord Zero lost control of Congress and state legislatures because he over reached and forced measures onto the country which Americans could not stomach.

    My wife and I were not Tea Party members, but we demonstrated with them, we wrote letters to the editor, and called our representatives. My wife and I argued with organizations like ARRP. Talk show hosts further inflamed the discourd spread by Tea Partyers. Liberal mockery made them stronger.

    If Republicans avoid Democrats’ mistakes and operate reasonably as they might since Trump is not the conservative he says he is, they will not face a strong grass roots movement as the Democrats did.

  343. Trust me, by almost every possible measurement, we’ve just elected our first Jewish president.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/20/trump-is-headed-to-white-house-did-just-elect-our-first-jewish-president.html

    Even alex jones is taking credit for trump. The controlled anti media media is now mainstream. These are interesting times indeed. Voltaire said you’ll know who rules over you simply by who you are not allowed to criticize. I think zionists remain in charge. We will see how much freedom gets restored.

  344. “They say only about 250,000 people attended the inauguration compared to over a million in 2013 and 1.8 million in 2009. Hotels are only 66 percent and half of those are there for the protest march tomorrow.”

    Trump voters can’t afford to travel to and lodge in DC.

  345. I bet there was a lot of ‘hood’ talk.

    Why do you say inflammatory shit like that when you know better? Obama is not BLACK. (Preview of this weekends post.) He no more knows how to engage in hood talk than you do. Michelle may be a different story.

  346. Secondly, Tex I also conjectured on the conversation on Marine 1 as it flew him away. My bet Michelle told him “I’ve been telling you for eight years this is one dumbass country”.

  347. The article El Tigre posted missed only one item. Last night on Shark Tank, “Mr. Wonderful” made an impassioned description of how he “built that.”

    The article also illustrates how the hard core of leftists are as Sofia Jannok described foreign occupiers and liars. They imposed attitudes and values foreign to the average American.

    A reporter interviewed Pennsylvanian voters about their voting decisions. She said that Hillary’s calling Trump supporters deplorables made voters most angry and changed some votes.

    That is a good article.

  348. Huck is right.

    A neighbor stayed home because the family couldn’t afford the $1,500 cost. A friend who’s son posed for a picture with Donald faced the same problem.

  349. TIgre, you clearly don’t know what non sequiter means.

    Ford pardoned Nixon because it was commonly accepted that Nixon had committed a crime and he wanted to spare Nixon and the country the disruption of prosecution.

    That case doesn’t hold here. A good 50% of the country are delusional about Hillary’s sins. For Obama to pardon her, he’d have to acknowledge to that 50% that he thinks she’s vulnerable to prosecution.

    And YES Tigre and Rabbit, he may be trying to cover his own ass. But think about it. By doing nothing, how did he cover his own ass? Now both he and Hillary are vulnerable to an aggressive DOJ.

  350. Trump voters can’t afford to travel to and lodge in DC.

    Is that your opinion? Are you saying the obama voters were of higher income? It looks to me as if both parties were represented out there in the crowd. 2009 was historic, and 2013 redundant but still 4 times the people.

    I think it reflects the people’s overall disgust in politics and our government. That is my opinion. There is no longer any honor that can be found in our capitol.

  351. Yes, it’s my opinion, but I think it’s one supported by what we know of the demographics who voted for him.

    No, i’m not alleging Obama voters were of higher income, I’m alleging he had more voters of higher income than Trump.

    I don’t think either of those positions is much of a stretch.

  352. “I think it reflects the people’s overall disgust in politics and our government. That is my opinion. There is no longer any honor that can be found in our capitol.”

    Oh, I’m sure there is quite a bit of that, as well. But I’d also bet that if Trump had offered a million free trips to DC just to watch his inauguration he’d have had several million wanting to take him up on the offer.

    And no, I’m not alleging that is what Obama did.

  353. So my wife and daughter are at day 2 of a gymnastics meet. I assume Rabbits wife, Tigre’s wife and daughter, James female kin, Tex’s wife and two daughters and Muffy are …

    ALL OUT MARCHING TODAY!!!

    😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

  354. “As you know, I’m at war with the media. They are, by far, the most dishonest people on the planet.” – Trump just now during speech at CIA HQ.

    Guaranteed this will get tons of attention.

  355. The woman marches are a great example of ill informed population.
    Inaugurations are a yawner and not really for the common folk in the first place. Andrew Jackson played that card and it didn’t turn out too well for the property. I think the biggest drivers are: 2016 not really a historic election because it really pans out as a big ass TBD. $$$. Safety concerns. People don’t want to idolize the government,they want it to get to work. The next time 2 million Americans are on the Mall will mark the first wave of folks there to burn the fucking place down.

  356. “TIgre, you clearly don’t know what non sequiter means.”

    Clearly you don’t even know how to spell it, let alone know what it means, Captain Dumbfuck.

    Pardon does not necessarily imply nor remove “guilt.” In the context of Hillary who was not charged, it is nothing more than immunity.

    I wonder whether you are ever are capable of following a point. Your “I’m suddenly an expert” tone tells me you’re stuck on some MSNBC blather again.

    Let’s walk this through. If Hillary is immune from prosecution, where does that leave Obama’s staff and accomplices?

  357. Groups around here were charging $200. for a round trip same day bus trip. The trip was sponsored by anti-Trump entities and meant to shore up the angry mobs.

  358. The next time 2 million Americans are on the Mall will mark the first wave of folks there to burn the fucking place down.

    Agreed. I think it’s way overdue. Trump gets no long leash with me. I’ll keep a muzzle close at hand too.

  359. Evidently, Madonna stated today that she thinks about blowing up the White House.

    It seems like just yesterday she was talking about blowing up other political entities.

  360. Secondly, Tex I also conjectured on the conversation on Marine 1 as it flew him away. My bet Michelle told him “I’ve been telling you for eight years this is one dumbass country”.

    The other thing making me very, very, very happy about the transition is that I no longer have to care whether or not that hypocritical, America-hating shrew is “proud” of her country any longer.

    She can no longer use her position to bully restaurant chains and school districts into changing their menus to suit her sensibilities while she sucks down shakes and chili cheese fries on the downlow.

    She’ll never have to endure another ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and ask her husband “all this for a flag???”

    Nope. She can do want she wants without me having to give a single fuck about it.

    It feels….liberating.

  361. A good 50% of the country are delusional about Hillary’s sins.

    Achievement Unlocked : You went full potato on that one.

    Seriously, R. She is plainly guilty of conduct that many, many, lesser beings have been aggressively prosecuted for, and convicted, and for offenses of a much more innocent nature. The delusional one is Hillary, because she clearly believes she has done nothing wrong. Her actions with the private server are completely beyond the pale, and by itself should completely disqualify her from ever having a security clearance ever again, let alone a job in public service. Add to it the willful destruction of evidence and non-compliance with legitimate discovery processes, and I can think of no public official in my LIFETIME (and that includes Nixon) who more deserved to be frogmarched in cuffs in front of the cameras on her way to Court. Throw in the pay to play with the Clinton Foundation/Clinton Global Initiative, and I’d make she never saw daylight again if I were the prosecutor.

  362. Let’s walk this through. If Hillary is immune from prosecution, where does that leave Obama’s staff and accomplices?

    Bingo.

    If she doesn’t have to hide behind the 5th to keep her sorry ass out of jail, what incentive does she have to not roll over on Barry and Company?

    Keep in mind that there is no love lost between the Obamas and the Clintons.

  363. But BiC, Obama’s Dept. of Injustice — and Obama himself said she didn’t break the law. Not one smidgen of corruption there either.

  364. So I just did a bit of quick Googling of “America First” because I wanted to learn more about these claims going around about some anti-Semitic group that Trump is supposedly channeling with the slogan.

    What I learned is, well before the existence of that group, Woodrow Wilson also used the slogan “America First”. Some might already be aware of that, I wasn’t.

  365. Well the term swastika was first used in the late 1800s, and it’s an ancient symbol. You think that Nazi Trump could get away with using that one too?

  366. Let’s walk this through. If Hillary is immune from prosecution, where does that leave Obama’s staff and accomplices?

    I had a feeling I misspelled non-whatever but I was too lazy to look it up and the damn spellcheck didn’t help me.

    Moving right along, I’m still not getting your point. By not pardoning Hillary (giving her immunity from prosecution) he has left BOTH of them dangling in the wind since you say he aided and abetted her misconduct. Not pardoning her buys him nothing other than avoiding flack from Hillary devotees which is what I say his motivation was.

  367. BiC’s elaboration doesn’t help me none.

    You’re imagining a scenario in which Obama is indicted and an immune Hillary rats on him? You and Tigre have watched My Cousin Vinny too many times.

    If the new doj wanted Obama in prison stripes, THEY could offer hrc immunity.

    I’m telling you. BO’s move has more to do with faux loyalty to Hillary than any selfish consideration. (And yes, I agree they hate each other’s guts.)

  368. Rutherford, my wife burned the trash. Our daughter took our grand daughter to a dance class and a play date. Some Omaha women did ride buses to Washington DC. Others marched around Omaha.

  369. I’m really losing patience with the talking heads taking Lindbergh’s appropriation of “America First” and applying it to Trump.

    90% of 2017 Americans hear what Donald is saying and understand it. It means what it says… America First.

  370. “I had a feeling I misspelled non-whatever but I was too lazy to look it up and the damn spellcheck didn’t help me.”

    You should’ve looked up the definition while you were at it.

    “You’re imagining a scenario in which Obama is indicted and an immune Hillary rats on him?”

    Please read what I wrote (hint: the words “staff” appeared). And try like hell to remember what she was investigated for, and the outcome of the investigation with the corrupt Lynch. After that, BiC said it pretty explicitly.

    And, for the Love of God, read what I wrote about Obama’s “out” for offering her a preemptive pardon. Is there some reason you think that wouldn’t sell, and what fucking difference would it make to his political future if he did grant a preemptive pardon (to keep you on track, here I am debunking your presumed motive).

    Now, you might be surprised to hear that most constitutional scholars see no limitation on Obama pardoning himself. But I know we wouldn’t be surprised that you think she’s not guilty/unindictable ’cause it’s always nothingburgers to the willfully blind.

  371. p.s. the new DOJ wouldn’t want Obama in prison stripes nor would he wear them even if they had him on videotape with an affidavit from Onion Booty herself testifying to his illegal conduct. He of course has a plethora of executive privileges and immunities. Need I remind you of the hydra that defines these investigations, particularly with intelligence officials and insiders?

  372. “90% of 2017 Americans hear what Donald is saying and understand it. It means what it says… America First.”

    Of course they do. It’s why I see the dems and the media violating the first rule of holes in epic fashion, and it brings me great pleasure.

  373. “If the new doj wanted Obama in prison stripes, THEY could offer hrc immunity.”

    I hope you weren’t serious. You think THEY would offer HRC immunity. She’d be the target. And the political price to be paid? You must have dipped into Poolman’s stash.

  374. If my teevee weren’t tuned into Disney, I’d look for that presser. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel, but I do love it. The media has had it coming for soooooo long, every kick is orgasmic.

  375. I watched a little CNN yesterday and found King to be pretty good. I applied that opinion to CNN turning over e “new” leaf. Eeeehhhhh Tonight Wolfie shows that was incorrect and when you watch Jennings @ msnbc you can’t help but wonder WTF the leftist media is smoking. In all seriousness I find the leftist media shills reminiscent of suicidal patients who just keep cutting themselves no matter what. You almost feel sorry for what seems to be an uncontrollable urge to self harm.

  376. Yes, swastikas are as old as the Sami joik dating back to ten thousand years or more ago.

    We all know what it is like to be suddenly physically attacked. A brief period when momentum is in doubt near the beginning often determines the victor. The Trump administration and Congress are now in that position. They don’t need Hillary jail distractions right now. They need to concentrate on about three issues and do something about them now. Time is short.

  377. Just streamed Spicer. Good stuff. When he points out such blatant bullshit, how do the CNN and MSNBC hacks respond without digging deeper? It is like the suicide patient determined to end it all.

  378. My kid wrestled off to make the 6th grade duals team as a 1st grader. Obviously, his low weight puts him up against kids younger than 6th grade, but they still can be older. Lot of pressure for my boy, as it is a team event.

    Any ways, he was down 7 to 0. Comes back 8 to 7 and has his opponent pinned in the 2nd, but times runs out.

    In the 3rd, he was up more points. With seconds left, he puts his opponent in “the cradle” and accidentally pins himself!!!!!!! He pinned himself!!!

    He was devestated! Cried afterwards. Hell…My gut instinct was to yell “Fuck!!!!”. Felt like I lost the match. (May be living vicariously through a 1st graders wrestling matches #douchedad)

    He bounced back quick because he likes hanging out with the older kids on the team.

    He did, however, tell me he wants to go back in time when I put him to bed. I told him welcome to life.

  379. R, serious question. Do you think the left will at some point speak out against its own? It’s almost like the moderate muslims that dare not speak out against the radicals. Y’all are on a sinking ship but no one onboard is willing to try and fix the hole.

  380. Thanks for the video, Rutherford. It was between watching the presser and taking a nap. After getting home from a heavy metal nightclub at 4am this morning, the nap won out easily.

  381. Tough break there, DR. I’ve seen those self-pins many times and been afraid they were going to happen even more. Good to hear he didn’t let it weigh on him too long, while maybe still being long enough to learn from it for future matches.

  382. Just had a relative visit from Grand Rapids. He has two boys that wrestle: 10 and 14. The 14 year old is all star, he said the intensity and involvement of the dads is over the top. He thinks it’s a Michigan thing. DR, any truth to that and are you “that” dad?

  383. Don’t get me wrong. If my daughter misses an opportunity to jack another player, she doesn’t get dinner. But I don’t let the other parents know.

  384. “He thinks it’s a Michigan thing. DR, any truth to that and are you “that” dad?”

    I have never met a parent who isn’t that Dad on the inside. It’s a combat sport. It’s all about self control and being aware of the dark side within, because your not human if you are not feeling the adrenaline of watching your son battle out. If I had kids earlier in life, I NEVER would have been able to handle it.

    I make my kid give a hug to any lad who beats him.

    Cool thing is football and baseball is so fun because of it. My boy and I just look at one another and crack up. The kid lives a gladiator lifestyle from November to May. After the grind of such a brutal cult sport, football and baseball seems like the day at the park that it actually is.

    Hockey, swimming and gymnastics are the 3 other sports I consider cultish.

  385. My bet Michelle told him “I’ve been telling you for eight years this is one dumbass country”.

    How ironic. That’s what my buddies and I were saying just yesterday when the helicopter took off. There go a couple of real dumbasses…completely unqualified.

    Marginal intelligence. And to you after 8 insufferable years I can only say…

    …Told you so. 😛

  386. That spicer person said there were more attending than for the obama inaugural. Do we believe the press or the exaggerator-in-chief? These are interesting times.

  387. I apologize but in my defense all of the disgraced Big 3 kind of blurred in my mind and in all honesty I was far too blown away by the idiocy to remember the name. Thankfully I think I’m so irrelevant I won’t have to withstand any fake news/Russia made me do it allegations.

  388. Anyone know anything about this proposed school voucher thing?

    I started thinking about it today and remembered that schools are funded by the state, not the federal government. A bit of research shows that California school are only funded 9% by federal funds. A voucher for 9% of a kid’s education won’t add up to much, relatively speaking.

    I suspect I’m missing something in this. Anyone maybe know what it is?

  389. I feel sorry for that young kid. He’s not old enough to be able to sluff it off like his brothers and sisters. At 10 years old, it cuts deep when people talk shit about your mom and dad. And you know he hears shit at school, too. Even his current one.

    I can see his mom being really protective, and she probably should be.

  390. “I can’t get into crime stuff anymore. Escapism rules the day.”

    I can dig that.

    I hear they have ruined Homeland with lefty bullshit. On the plus side, Black Sails returns this week. On the down side, it’s the last episodes of the series.

  391. I have a theory. Trump, despite lib coverage, got a great reception at the CIA today. Could it be the CIA really thinks Brennan was a POS and they’re happy about Trump and the incoming Pompeo?

  392. Rabbit, believe me, it ain’t just a wrestling thing. My kid NAILED a bar routine in “pre-game” practice yesterday and then blew it when it counted. She got an 8.25 which was lucky cos I was positive she’d get in the 7’s. I was PISSED!!! I knew to keep my mouth shut when the meet was over and my kid took it in stride. I was much more upset than she was.

    Girls gymnastics is dominated by the mothers who fake the “team” thing while privately bitching about the girls they’re jealous of. I only go to the meets because I want to see my kid kick ass. Otherwise I’m a piece of furniture. The mothers mostly ignore me as do my wife and kid. It’s actually a psychological struggle to attend.

  393. While I stand by my CIA-Brennan theory, it must be said Trump chose the wtong venue to gripe about press estimates of his crowd sizes.

    The man is ever so slightly unhinged.

  394. “Black Sails returns this week. On the down side, it’s the last episodes of the series”

    How many seasons are there? I might start this one.

    I still insist you stick with Black Mirror. Each episode is independent. I should have given a warning about pig fucker. The 2nd one is odd too. After that, the show serves as a great warning of the possible directions we are heading.

  395. “Girls gymnastics is dominated by the mothers who fake the “team” thing while privately bitching about the girls they’re jealous of”

    Dude.. That is hilarious. Wrestling is the same way. I find that stuff absolutely disgusting. Little kids should not get sucked into rivalries. I’m constantly shielding my boy from that stuff.

    Most parents who get caught up in that crap, burn their kids out. I actually TELL parents and kids how to beat my boy.

    That’s why we both loved football so much. The ultimate team sport. It’s a nice break from the psychosis.

  396. Rabbit, I hope your son is recovering from his trauma. That must have been hard for him.

    In 1988, a pick up truck hit and threw me over 200 feet on a hill in a heavy wet snow storm. I was jumping when the pickup hit me. Otherwise, I might have died. The driver said he was going 35 MPH when he hit me, and left eight feet of rubber when he stopped.

    The sherrif joked I probably felt like the first day of foot ball practice. I felt so bad for two weeks that we discouraged our children from contact sports.

  397. Huck I’ll give you my take but with the disclaimer that it’s dripping with bias.
    As I understand it DeVos and others have sold Trump on the old GOP fave notion of vouchers. These things would get funded primarily by changing the Title I funding scheme. They want to add money to it and expect states to kick in too. I’ve not seen anything about how the feds think they can get the states to kick in. The feds can of course change the rules of the Title spending.
    It is a bad idea and Devos is a bad choice. This plan only helps profiteers and doesn’t help kids at all. Targeting disadvantage kids in shitty school systems is an awesome idea. Giving a kid tuition money to a private school that either is a money hole or more often a place where other expenses makes the kid an excluded outcast doesn’t help the kid.
    The latter has been proven over and over at the university level across racial lines.

  398. Pope Frankie is too funny.

    a people that was immersed in a crisis, that looked for its identity until this charismatic leader came and promised to give their identity back, and he gave them a distorted identity,

    The Dope applies this in context of Hitler and populism. The media dangles the quote as a applicable to Trump. The irony is it also applies to the Dopes boss or at least how humans,including a number of Vatican residents, have bastardized those identity lessons.

  399. Well border enforcement has increased dramatically since Trump took the Oath. Funny thing is it is the border with Canada. Customs has detained and repelled a number of folks from the Great White North secondary to their intentions to participate in protests in NYC & DC.
    I’ve been crossing the border more often this past 12 months mostly at “tiny” crossings along the Maine/New Brunswick border. I’ve noted a terse scripted professionalism on both sides. The Quebec border has always proven a bizarre mix of politeness and franco snottiness. It’ll be interesting to see what is on offer in the Spring on my next venture.

  400. The guys who marched in the women’s march make me look like Clint Fucking Eastwood.

    My experience observing the ‘Y’ factor has been most of the males who attend this pointless idiocy are beta type, hoping to score some grabbing at the corner of leg and leg with an equally inferior female. It’s a mating ritual of sorts for the dreg class.

    As to the women, most of them are angry and mentally ill. Call it a bubble, but I am not related or even friendly with one woman who would march at something comparable to what we saw Saturday. My wife and daughters are truthfully embarrassed by this type of female.

    But I did watch the Tulsa March. It was led by the female Dim activists in the city whose frequents complaints are misogyny, LGBTWUXYZ rights, the ever ubiquitous racism, and domestic abuse, or something to that accord.

    99% of the people around here ignore them but the paper to sell papers. A freak show.

  401. As to the women, most of them are angry and mentally ill. Call it a bubble, but I am not related or even friendly with one woman who would march at something comparable to what we saw Saturday.

    Sadly, I am.

    My aunt, who is a very educated person, remained very staunchly “With Her”, even in light of the Helen Keller obvious demonstration of America’s Ex-Wife’s guilt. I saw in my FB feed yesterday her pictures of the trip to DC, and the march. Her daughter participated in a march in Louisiana.

    I can tell you that they are both deeply religious, and believe that they were making an important stand against “hate”, and that while incredibly, tragically wrong in their devotion to Hillary, they are not the types to participate in some of the worse displays that went on yesterday, including pussy hats and writing messages on maxi-pads.

  402. It is scary how some religious folks get caught up in leftist idiocy. Frankie isn’t helping.
    There is sweet irony in the reality that many of the alleged women’s issue males are in fact in it for pussy grabbing.

  403. I think we’re running low on worthy causes. I heard a woman on the street yesterday bullhorning about the unfairness of women having to use sick days to stay home from work to care for a sick child.

  404. @Huck – I havent watched it but Im familiar with the case and the netflix portrayal. Id be curious what youre holy shitting….

  405. “How many seasons are there? I might start this one.”

    6 or so. The story is a prequel to the Treasure Island story. But this is no kid’s book. Violence and pirates and lesbians. It’s a total “guilty pleasure” series.


    Thanks Alfie. Yeah I don’t see states giving up power to the fed. In Cali the state actually gave more power to the local school boards as to how money is spent, with the idea that those at ground level know better about what the needs are. It’s still not a perfect system, but better than before.


    Muffy, I don’t know jack about the case or portrayal except what I saw on Netflix. And I know that is only 1 side of the story. But that 1 side seems pretty damn scary and sinister to me. I’m trying not to say too much because Rutherford wants to watch it.

  406. @ Huck the funding formula in MA is fairly complicated but has a focus on districts. Richer districts logically get less support from the state while some of our true basket case communities are funded 75%+ by the rest of us. The districts seem to be the recipients of the Title $$$ too and I’m confident MA would not be proponents of changing.
    We recently reinforced our bigotry by allowing the entire state and the teachers union to vote down an increase in charter caps in a handful of districts. The districts are our 4-10 true basket cases where kids are truly doomed. That’s white liberal power for you!

  407. Word is Trump is moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem tomorrow.

    As I told my wife, that should be fun because Palestinians and Arabs, in general, don’t do pussy marches when they get pissed off. 😀

  408. Palestinians and Arabs, in general, don’t do pussy marches when they get pissed off.

    Funny and very scary at the same time. Why is he moving so fast on this? I don’t get the prioritization.

  409. The move is pure symbolism, as is getting pissed off about it.

    This isn’t a surprise with what he has put forth the last several weeks.

    I much preferred the position he took in the primary debates when he stated the US isn’t going to solve the problems between those parties and if we had a hope of even being influential we had to be an honest broker, and, as such, not take sides. He caught a lot of flak for that, but it was 1 of the few things I liked from him.

  410. At Rutherford yes but keep in mind papal speech use to trend first person plural so you could consider it as him or JC depending on how you want to take it

    It’s quick and easy statement stuff

  411. The move is pure symbolism, as is getting pissed off about it.

    It should be symbolic to all of us. This president is all about allowing Israel to expand and basically do whatever they want. He is the most Jewish ever. But it is of the zionist variety, not the ideology of the majority of those claiming to be Jewish. These are radicals, much like the jihadists of Islam.

    These are the same ziominded that force-formed the state.

    Jerusalem was captured by David (Goliath slayer) and it became the place of Jewish worship with Solomon’s temple built there. Of course it was destroyed and later rebuilt and destroyed. Jesus was crucified there.

    “During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times.” – wikipedia

    Zionists believe it the capital of greater Israel while Palestinians claim it their capital.

    It also plays big in the ‘end time’ scripts.

  412. Jews claim their ancestry to Jacob (the deceiver) who went on to have 12 sons from 4 different women and David was from the lineage of Judah at war with what were the other lines or tribes known as Israel.

    Jesus was born into that lineage and fulfilled all the requirements of the scriptures yet was rejected by the religion then as He is today.

  413. The only size that matters is the electoral count. Move on

    You really have no idea who we just put in charge, do you?

  414. I’m saying the crowd size controversy only became one when your new president’s spokesperson made a claim they were actually bigger than obama’s were.

    Who do you think it matters to?

    You already told me trump supporters couldn’t afford to be there when you knew the crowd considered much smaller than the democratic wins in the past.

    This now falls into the category of who is telling the truth, because it cannot be both ways.

  415. “I’m saying the crowd size controversy only became one when your new president’s spokesperson made a claim they were actually bigger than obama’s were.”

    Bullshit. It’s why he brought it to the podium dumbass.

  416. Bullshit. It’s why he brought it to the podium dumbass.

    Understanding and logic do not come easy to you.

    Let’s start with your definition of controversy.

    Then maybe we can take a logical next step.

  417. “Who do you think it matters to?”

    The real question is, who do you think I was speaking to?

    The answer is…Both sides. It doesn’t matter. Move on.

    Which category does it fall under now, dumbass?

  418. Your pre-inaugural link suggests the numbers are unknowable and that is why reports of attending are always controversial.

    I was on to the present controversy between the new administration and the media. I was considering the discrepancy between the actual photographs provided by the media of real people shown from overhead and taken during these historic events. Trump’s camp claims there were more bodies there than attended the obama events, yet there are no pictures that prove it.

    That is what I thought Huck meant by crowdgate.

    Ceremonial attendance shouldn’t matter to an administration concerned with returning power to the people. But a faked media battle makes for good distraction. The media serves the powerful very well. They own it. Trump thrives on it.

  419. The anti-Trump side of Crowdgate is using it as a way to delegitimize Trump. That Team Trump is wasting breath on it shows they agree that crowd size is a form of legitimacy. It’s stupid.

    Which is why I stated very clearly, “The only size that matters is the electoral count.”

  420. I’m sure the crowd size for Donald was smaller. It should have been, being a weekday.

    Four obvious reasons: (1) Politics isn’t religion to the right; (2) All of us understand unlike the Obama Drones, Trump ain’t the messiah; (3) We Republicans have a life outside politics; (4) Trump people work for a living.

    The fact Obama drew massive crowds only furthers the ultimate embarrassment of how naive, gullible, ignorant, hoodwinked, and stupid the Obamians were and still are.

  421. “I was on to the present controversy between the new administration and the media.”

    LOL. The controversy about what Spicer said wasn’t a controversy about what he said until he said it. Duh.

    What do you care about photos anyway? They’re all faked when they don’t support your stupid conspiracy theories, especially those satellite photos which can’t exist with a flat earth unless they’re photogrpahing handicapped parking signs.

  422. I think the crowd size thing was just team Trump overplaying their hand. Theyre trying to break the stranglehold the media has on the narrative and the MLK bust lie fell into their lap. But they buried the lede by quibbling over crowd size.

    They also could have held their ammo for the first real presser they intended to give. This stunt didnt do them any good, as entertaining as it is to watch the media get depanced again and again.

  423. Sorry to disappoint R. Of course it was a joke, and I posted it because of what it said not because I would confuse it the “Spicier” with “Spicer.” I don’t work for CNN.

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