Clinton Cash: The “Film”

Why do I put film in quotes in the title? Your average 12 year old with his own YouTube channel could have produced a more professional looking product. The roughly hour long documentary has no first person interviews. The only person filmed expressly for the doc is the Clinton Cash book author, Peter Schweizer. Everyone else is featured in stock  footage. 

If we get beyond the cheesy look of the film (disembodied hands exchanging cash, a disembodied hand writing out “$1,000,000”) and focus on content, the best we can say about the Clintons is they have zero trouble with moral ambiguity. 

The Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) and the Foundation (which I believe are two related but distinct entities) play footsie with corrupt governments like that of Nigeria.  They go into Haiti after a devastating earthquake and run projects that help donors but do little to help those in need. They get into a complex scheme (that I could not completely unravel) involving uranium going to Russia and a uranium company traded on the Canadian stock market making out like bandits. And then there’s that time in Colombia when Bill just happens to bump into the Secretary of State while they’re on “independent” business trips. 

Connected to many of these arrangements are “coincidental” paid speeches by Bill Clinton, in the six figure range, almost 5 to 10 times as much as he got paid prior to Hillary becoming Secretary of State. So, the very credible allegation made is that CGI work indirectly lined the pockets of the Clintons. 

The film was produced by Steve Bannon, formerly of Breitbart fame, and now CEO of Donald Trump’s POTUS campaign. Hillary fans will call it a hit piece full of circumstantial evidence. They will call it the product of “the vast right wing conspiracy”. Hillary haters may have heard it all before. Folks on the fence though should definitely give the movie a peek to get a preview of how murky an HRC administration might be. After viewing this doc, any reasonable person would have to ask himself, can’t a charity be run without all the moral ambiguity?

I give the film 2 out five R’s for poor production quality and 4 R’s for content being thought provoking. 

Production quality: RR
Content: RRRR

This box office bonanza can already be viewed for free on YouTube. 

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390 thoughts on “Clinton Cash: The “Film”

  1. There are a lot of people that prefer to not be named when they make allegations against the clintons. Let’s just say there are plenty of convenient and suspicious deaths in their wake. I didn’t see the film. I don’t need to get more dirt on them as I have seen enough to know what they represent.

  2. From the prior thread:

    Studies have shown CBD/THC to be effective as a bronchial dilator and in many cases being better that Albuterol or Ipratropium.

    Funny Poolman, I currently “smoke” a mixture of albuterol and ipratropium. I don’t think medical marijuana is legal in IL. Damn it would crack my wife and kid up to see Daddy smoking pot every day. 😀😀

  3. Funny the earth’s medicine is illegal in some states but demonic pharma products are mandated. Funny as in stupid. Not only would it improve your life, it would do so naturally and probably help you live longer. I see it everyday.

  4. I don’t need to see the movie either. Dr. Drew Pinsky said he worries about Hillary’s health and method of treatment. She could have serious medical problems.

    His show was canceled after he received frightening phone calls demanding that he retract his comments. He refused but agreed that the cancelation was a coincidence which had been planed earlier.

    Dr. Drew is a smart man. He doesn’t want to disappear the way the Rose law firm records suddenly appeared.

    How many people do you know who died mysteriously or who disappeared? Why do the Clintons know so many?

    Read Betsy’s page this morning. Trump has sinned but not as badly as the Clintons. The FBI is part of their team too.

    I think I am joking.

    I don’t smoke.

  5. Betsy quoted Kimberley Strassel who advised Republicans to make ObamaCare an issue to protect themselves from Trump. Democrats own Affordable Care. Republicans should make that clear.

    Our recent discussion about ownership was current. We should be proud.

    Someone told me pot helps glaucoma. Still not convinced.

  6. From the previous thread –

    “I asked, if lacking credibility was a weak case against him, please tell me how he IS credible. If he truly lacks credibility, then that case is not weak at all. It’s dead on.

    Or are you saying lacking credibility is not important, hence that makes the case against him weak?”

    What Im saying is it doesnt rise to the level of disqualification insofar as its somewhat subjective and speculative.

    I accept “impulse control” as well – a very fair criticism and a legitimate concern – but it doesnt go so far as to make deliberations a slam dunk. For me. Its not unlike being presented with eye witness testimony and provided a possible motive – but not given matching DNA or fingerprints in the victims blood found at the scene to consider.

  7. Medicinal marijuana is a great potential but contrary to the pro-cannabis caravan everything we know now is pretty much crap.
    The smart course would have been to reschedule it so widespread unbiased research could be done.
    Our failure to do this has resulted in a mixed bag of populist nutism to foist upon us the lie of medicinal marijuana.
    This mixed bag has three obvious components:

    Big Pharma/Corporate America: Oh yeah they’re here because they will be the ultimate beneficiaries in a nation full of wannabe weedies. The purists in California are all ready bemoaning this dawning truth. People should recognize the hippies are not full of shit oaths one. Stuck between cartel backed shitbags and soon to be Big Aggie MJ types the homegrown purists will be lost. Although I don’t care much I do think these pioneers were at least honest and should be viewed as lessons we’re not going to learn.

    Taxers: Mmmm mmm marijuana sales tax. Medicinal marijuana is a gateway to the real goal which is of course legalization. Legalization = taxation which when all politics are local,or at least state level is like manna from Heaven when facing school unions,shitty infrastructure and most importantly unsustainable pension obligations. It won’t stop there though folks since legalization cycles back to the corporates. In no more than a decade the USA will have federal level statutes that prohibits the importation of marijuana and the corporates will monopolize the market and patent strains. But there will be tax revenue,and its for the children and yeah.

    The Pussy Stoners: One of the only truly credible and long term studies on marijuana highlights that there are detrimental long term use effects. The stoners though don’t care ,and for the most part who the fuck cares about them? Not me! Recreational drug use is a manifestation of Darwinism and quite frankly only makes the serfs more pliable thus making my life easier. Toke up dudes!

  8. i might also add that the charges against Trump brought by the left are much weaker still than the aforementioned argument.

  9. Medicinal marijuana is a great potential but contrary to the pro-cannabis caravan everything we know now is pretty much crap.

    That statement is pretty much crap. Considering the source let’s just say full on shit on this one.

  10. Re: The Problems with Trump’s Black Outreach (also from the last thread) –

    FWIW the problems are 1) his birtherism and 2) a really bad idea almost 30 years ago that had to do with the central park jogger.

  11. Yale= full of shit? NIH= full of shit? I’m sorry I won’t accept High Times for a scientific source. Deny the lack of specific long term study concept? You have to otherwise you have to admit you’re wrong.
    I’m telling the unclouded truth pool scum so suck it.

  12. Other than the words cannabis ,marijuana and cannaboid what it the next most common and substantial word in medical marijuana studies?? MAY
    Want real studies? Me too! Reschedule the weed!

  13. About the only thing “marijuana” has been confirmed by science, is long-term use substantially increases the chances of damage to the limbic system and the processing of memory and pathways to reasoning in the cortex, and is a major irritant and likely carcinogen to the trachea, smooth muscle of the bronchioles and aveoli,

    Ever spoken to a long-term stoner? It doesn’t take long to grasp there’s a disconnect in the circuitry of critical thinking skills.

    If we wanted to put our blog host faster into the grave, we could supply him with some really good weed. However, something tells me someone being treated with a nebulizer and Albuterol for constriction and COPD, is probably wise enough to recognize irritant smoke is probably not the best thing to be snorting down into the lungs. 😈

    The medical ignorance out there is mind numbing.

  14. Rutherford, I’ve always contended if the Republican Party was smart, an nobody pulls defeat from the jaws of victory any better than the RNC, they would purchase all of the women’s magazines, and a production company worthy of making professional looking film.

    It detracts from the message of truth when your production skills register about 2 out of 10 on the quality scale.

    However, the Clinton corruption is so obvious and so deep, when half the country remains in denial or doesn’t care after at least 30 years of hard proof of scandal, mendacity and deceit, someone could make Gone with Hillary Wind and I’m convinced it would make little difference.

    You’ve lost the country when truth and justice no longer matter because The Constitution is rendered null and void without the law. And if you want to know why I remain pretty apolitical this go around, now you know.

    We’re toast. And I think you’re beginning to recognize that too. 😦

  15. I agree Trump’s black outreach has problems. One of the most notable as mentioned is his birtherism which he borrowed from the Clintons and others.

    Liberals have another problem as reported in the New York Times. Black focus groups don’t like either candidate. They think Trump is a racist and Hillary is a liar who has done little to help them.

    I have also read that marajuana can affect the brain in bad ways. Nebraska has a pot problem now that it is legal in Colorado. Too many are getting high in Nebraska and it is straining local law enforcement.

  16. Marijuana is only effective at temporarily relieving intraocular pressure. There are superior treatment choices. If you like the idea of smoking every few hours have at it. As a rule additional studies are indicated and the side effects must always be weighed.

  17. Poolman, even pot advocate Johnson agrees with Alfie that you have to take it off the schedule d (or whatever) list so you can better study its effects.

    Until it gets proper study it is probably just one rung above witch doctor bullshit.

  18. FWIW the problems are 1) his birtherism and 2) a really bad idea almost 30 years ago that had to do with the central park jogger.

    People have very short memories. The birther thing far outweighs the Central Park jogger thing. His far greater handicap is pretending to be a Republican in the first place. Blacks don’t trust the GOP.

  19. Rutherford I know for a fact you could get a grass card in the Bay State. We just recently had proof that the whole mediical marijuana dispensary deal is a fucking scam. Folks getting scripts without real exams. Uproar was ironically intiated by a doctor who uses medi wanna but was worried the shaky scripts would be an issue. Stupid fuck went on the record with a straight face about the shady office visits. She still wants her grass though.

  20. Rutherford I know for a fact you could get a grass card in the Bay State.

    Sounds a bit like Rabbit’s tales from his pharmacist brother of bogus scrips. I’m not surprised.

  21. I’m telling the unclouded truth pool scum so suck it.

    You’re repeating the crap you’ve been told. You have no other point of reference. Yale is an institution that gave us the likes of kerry and bush. They don’t zig or zag unless authorized. Go visit some of the studies done in other nations like Israel. A 20 year study is long term. There are longer studies in progress.

    Industrialists demonized the plant because it cut into their profit potential. The alcohol industry has been a big player in keeping it from being rescheduled. Big money against it trumps the big money trying to profit from it.

    Hemp was required to be grown in the colonies and served well as paper, cloth, oil, fuel, and a myriad of medicinal purposes. It is the most renewable resource and would have let us keep our old growth forests. George Washington grew it and wrote about it.

    The pharma/oil cartel is your source of unclouded truth. The one natural product that could destroy big oil and big pharma, the gods’ whose water you carry. And it does not pollute the earth.

  22. Tex, the only thing I can add to that future is eventually ” To the Wall!!”

    I lost 2% of the vision in my left eye before the glaucoma was discovered about eight years ago. So far, a nightly eye drop has kept the pressure well within normal boundries.

    I don’t ever plan to smoke pot nor any other form of tobacco. I want to live till 100 with the mind of a fifty year old.

  23. “People have very short memories. The birther thing far outweighs the Central Park jogger thing. His far greater handicap is pretending to be a Republican in the first place. Blacks don’t trust the GOP.”

    Respectfully, blacks are not nearly as partisan as are liberals.

    Birtherism is the strongest thread tying Trump to (possibly) racist motives by far. It’s a deal breaker Trump will have to fix it or no deal.

    The subsequent release (exhonerated but not uncontroversially) of 5 young – very young – black men (boys) for which Trump made a series of unwise (however understandable) remarks – is highly relevant, topical, and threatening. Moreover it puts Trump square in the mercy seat in their place.

  24. Until it gets proper study it is probably just one rung above witch doctor bullshit.

    Nikola Tesla wanted us to all have free energy. J P Morgan and others shut him down. “Where do we put the meter?” You are waiting for the establishment (those who live off of our energy) to ordain good something every being could easily obtain without them, something the Creator has already deemed good, and something that always was deemed good until such establishment decided it wasn’t.

    Johnson is not going to say much that goes against the establishment. He’s a politician and will run with them in most instances.

  25. PS @R- Im not sure exactly to what aspect of “the central park jogger thing” youre referring but as I alluded to Trump has blood on his hands.

  26. “People have very short memories.”

    I cant even believe you said that and then applied the rest of your logic to Trump as a Repub, legit or otherwise.

  27. The medical ignorance out there is mind numbing.

    It’s pretty ignorant in here too. Let me ask you a serious question. With your medical knowledge and the medical services you tout as superior, do you think you are healthier than I? I am 3 years your senior and haven’t been to a physician in 20 years. I have also smoked cannabis consistently since 16. My blood pressure is low and the blood perfect. I bet all my health levels supersede yours.

    No brag, just fact.

  28. I would bet money that Marijuana can increase appetite in chemo patients. Anecdotally, I’ve seen it.

    Is there any other drug on the planet that most people unconsciously kind of just grow out of after using, even if at one point heavily?

    Most of my old weed buddies don’t have time for that shit. I certainly don’t. Besides, it”s just not that pleasurable, to be honest.

    Prohibition isn’t stopping shit. Legalize the crap and move on.

    The stoners are already stoners.

    Opiate consumption down in Colorado. Youth use down as well. It’s a free country.

  29. I have also smoked cannabis consistently since 16. My blood pressure is low and the blood perfect. I bet all my health levels supersede yours.

    Lol…. You’re a village idiot and a text book example of what long term marijuana abuse can create. You believe in fantasies so distorted they wouldn’t even meet the plot standards of a B movie. Your thinking skills are perverted by THC.

  30. I am 3 years your senior and haven’t been to a physician in 20 years. I have also smoked cannabis consistently since 16. My blood pressure is low and the blood perfect. I bet all my health levels supersede yours.

    Low blood pressure is not an indicator of health. 😆 In fact, it might demonstrate a weak heart as indicator of future kidney failure, diabetes, heart failure and stroke. My blood pressure was 110/74 last it was taken and all of my blood work which was extensive within acceptable norms. That included all the ion tests for heart.

    There are many indicators of health. For instance, I would wager my physical strength far superior to yours on a pound-per-pound basis. Almost sure of it. But there is also a drawback in that there are some studies indicating that body structures like mine naturally more muscular, heavy chested, and broad shouldered, also lend themselves to shorter life spans.

    Your genetics might have gotten you the luck of the draw as to my knees which probably was self-induced through years of exercise, and heart issue probably congenital. But I question your mental health daily. I have often thought you manifest (through your comments) paranoid delusions – a clear indicator of long-term substance abuse.

    I think I would take that bet.

  31. Nightly eye drops for me as well James. What do you use? I was on Travatan-Z until my health insurance stopped covering it. Now I’m on a different drop whose name I don’t remember.

  32. as I alluded to Trump has blood on his hands.

    I don’t dispute that at all. I’m just saying it doesn’t have the fresh zing to it that birtherism does.

    I tried my damnedest to make Hillary’s superpredators comment a thing on Twitter. It got nowhere. Too long ago for even most blacks to give a damn.

    I don’t know how Trump unrings the birther bell. The man hates to apologize for anything.

  33. I bet all my health levels supersede yours.

    Poolman I’ve been known to take your side against Tex BUT Tex doesn’t think Sandy Hook never happened. Perhaps the years of pot have made you more susceptible to conspiracy theorists?

  34. How dumb does one have to be to think cannabis cures cancer, still the number 2 killer of people world wide, #1 in many areas? I have kind of left you alone the last couple of years, Poolman, as it obvious you were a troubled soul. You’ve gone off the deep end so many times with the gutter depravity, you reached a level I couldn’t go.

    One thing that has become clear the last six months, or so. I finally figured out what Poolman’s main malfunction – mental health issues; paranoid schizophrenia with delusions of grandeur. 😛

    No, my diagnosis is no joke. Poolman is kind of a throwback to the hippie yippee movement…

  35. Apparently the new Pres of the Philippines, Duterte, called Obama a son of a bitch. Obama answered by cancelling scheduled meeting with him.

    Duterte is killing drug pushers and users en masse.

  36. Rutherford, some people just don’t look at things the same way. They may have good eyes but lack vision. Sometimes it’s as simple as deciding what is missing.

    Do you actually believe an elementary school would be more than eight (8) years out of compliance when every other school in that very same district WAS compliant during that time? Isn’t that unreasonable and a harder position to reconcile? To me it becomes impossible to overlook.

    The world is full of those waiting to be led.

    http://www.cureyourowncancer.org/

  37. Poolman, do your wife a favor after she smokes some cheap dope in the hash pipe, in case she ever gets breast or cervical cancer.

    I used to work with otherwise nice man who thought much like you. So did his wife. Dragged his wife out to San Francisco for herb remedies to cure her breast cancer, then down to Mexico for more pronounced miracle cures.

    She was dead at 38 two months later. 😉

    Go to a cancer treatment center of some type.

  38. As a former Navy man, I feel everybody should have the wonderful experience of being cursed out by an angry Phillipino alpha male at least once in their life…..

  39. FWIW, the full phrase is “Me cago in la puta leche que te crió hijo de puta.”

    Which translates to “I shit in the whore’s milk that raised you the son of a whore.”

  40. Our nephew in law is a Filpino and our daughter in law is from South Korea. What would happen if we locked them in a small room? Both are forces. Both don’t like Obama or Hillary.

    Rutherford, I take istenoprost ophthdolink I think. I don’t remember the spelling.
    A derivitave is advertised to make eye lashes grow. A side effect was that it might turn my blue eye brown, but it didn’t happen.

  41. The only Filipino I ever knew reasonably well (he worked for me at IBM) was the most mild mannered guy you’d ever want to meet. Rabbit’s navy experience surprises me.

  42. PBS edits Jill Stein interview to exclude criticism of HRC. PB-fucking-S. I cannot believe it. I thought of all the outlets they were among the straightest shooters.

    We are powerless folks. The manipulation knows no bounds. Shit, I should go back to my original stance of boycotting the vote. It’s a farce and democracy a fucking illusion. 😡

  43. “PB-fucking-S. I cannot believe it.”

    Nothingburgers. We’ve been pointing it out for years.

    I will concede this. PBS and especially NPR have really gone full blown partisan (with my tax money) over the last two years.

    Clinton Criminal Cartel owns them.

    I embarrassingly used to actually defend NPR every now and then.

    Democracy relies on savvy and intelligent people. It’s not Democracy’s fault.

  44. “Rabbit’s navy experience surprises me.”

    Ha. There is much about this world that would.

    Phillipinos citizens used to be allowed to serve in the United States Navy and Marines (not sure about Army) in return for American use of bases on their soil.

    The catch was they could only be cooks, supply and a rate that escapes me.

    Of course the fleet thought they were handcuffing Phillipino power by restricting their jobs. Far from it! Motherfuckers ran the food and were in charge of getting a parka in the arctic!

    Now, even young Rabbit was smart enough to figure out who feeds him and keeps him from freezing his balls off. I got in good with what essentially tribe within the Navy. One time I ate the biggest crab legs I’ve ever seen to this day on the doen low.

    Today, Phillipinos dominate the merchant sailor labor force. Famous for being tough sailors and saying “Puck You”!

  45. Jill Stein is a moron. Not to pick on you but tell me, Rutherford. Obama spent over $100 Billion dollars in the roaring “green economy.” Where’s the beef? Solyndra?

    I really wish the hydrocarbon industry would simply shut down for a month and expose these morons and their supporters, providing what America would look and “feel” like without 70% of its energy capacity, its plastics, its infrastructure materials, etc… … …

  46. Interesting Rabbit. I also belonged to a tribe within a tribe_the medics.

    Rutherford, you asked for suggestions for keeping informed. I suggested Betsy’s Page among other things. Read it today.

    Is it keeping you eye pressure within normal range?

    “We are powerless, folks.” Yes, we are. It is why I am voting for Trump. I compared Sampson to us before. We can pull down the pillars the way Sampson did and destroy the Philistines as the temple crushed them. Of course, Sampson died too, but he ended it.

  47. Rutherford, check WND, “10 Prominent Doctors Question Hillary’s Health” Concentrate less on speculation about her medical problems and more on Clinton allies in the media. They are helping turn us into a banana republic as the writer Betsy cites maintains.

  48. Jill Stein is a moron.

    Stein never got past 1969. If I were a true idealist and not the cynical bastard I’m turning into, Stein would be my girl. I view Johnson as a compromise solution. I think he and Weld might actually be able to work with Congress to get stuff done.

    But all that aside, Tex, you missed the key point that PBS of all places is carrying Hillary’s water. You have to give Stein credit for calling out the fake progressive.

  49. Is it keeping you eye pressure within normal range?

    Just started on the new drug so I don’t know yet. The Travatan-Z worked like a charm.

    I used to use Azopt but lo and behold it had a little known side effect for some people (me) – diarrhea.

  50. You don’t have to be a doctor to see hILLary isn’t well. The scripted and time delayed teevee media can’t even hide the obvious. We’ve gone from the emperor has no clothes to an empire in last throes. We stand naked on the sidelines watching tigers turn to butter.

  51. The only things I find credible about Hillary health issues is that she can’t get through a 2 hour debate without peeing and she blamed her poor memory on her concussion while talking to the FBI. George Romney lost his Pres bid for FAR less than that.

  52. “Were that Ted Cruz PBS was dissing to carry Hillary’s water, R, you would have been singing the PBS praises…”

    Oh yes he would. I’ve been here long enough and heard about too many nothingburgers. Incredible that since Sanders was squeezed, Rutherford only see this shit as meaningful now.

    If it were Obama, not a peep. They were just editing for time. R still enjoys a nice warm Obama golden shower. Same media, same motivations, same damn cast of characters but Obama didn’t play dirty in the primaries. . . he just went along with it.

  53. Were that Ted Cruz PBS was dissing to carry Hillary’s water, R, you would have been singing the PBS praises…

    Nope. You’re still missing the point. It’s not about Jill Stein. It’s about HRC. I’d be pissed about PBS editing anyone’s criticism of HRC. The game is to protect her, whether by screwing with the primaries or by shielding her from the press.

    Now if you want to say that Lee Camp would not have covered the PBS edit if Cruz was the speaker, you get no argument from me. I don’t know how much Camp’s piece was pro-Stein vs anti-Hillary.

  54. Your job, Rutherford is not to dismiss World Nut. You look at another source and see how or if it is different from what was written there.

  55. Your job, Rutherford is not to dismiss World Nut. You look at another source and see how or if it is different from what was written there. Even a stopped clock… The National Inquirer turned out to be a credible course about once or twice.

  56. From the last thread –

    “Tigre, the Friday bad news dump is the oldest trick in the book.” -R

    From the FBI?

    PS…checking the blockquote abbr

  57. The good news Muffy, whatever blockquote abbreviation you used worked.

    The bad news: you went into moderation. I assume wrong email but I didn’t double check why.

    As to your comment, Joe Scarborough remarked this morning that the FBI was acting like an arm of the Clinton campaign vis-a-vis the Friday dump.

    Whatever rep Comey may have had is going in the crapper.

  58. “I don’t dispute that at all. I’m just saying it doesn’t have the fresh zing to it that birtherism does…I tried my damnedest to make Hillary’s superpredators comment a thing on Twitter. It got nowhere. Too long ago for even most blacks to give a damn.” -R

    The age of the infraction doesn’t matter.

    The ways in which a black voter regards old news is no different than the white voter.

    “I don’t know how Trump unrings the birther bell. The man hates to apologize for anything.

    Not impossible but it would require an expert apology followed by an artful dodge. And all without a hint of insincerity.

  59. Call me crazy but I think the the birther inquiries were fair play. We knew nothing about Obama. Nothing. His past was strange as fuck and mysterious.

    Why didn’t he release the long form the minute people wanted it?

    Everybody acts like it was this horrible, racist act of disrespect. Fuck that. Media didn’t vet the turd. So this stuff comes with the territory.

  60. There are still a lot of unknowns regarding obama, aka barry soetoro. The birth certificate is just one. I thought originally that it was a ridiculous charge, but had to reconsider and think now it really wasn’t.

    This clown’s antics are too well known.

  61. Personally I dont think the birther thing was racist at all. But I can appreciate that it looks that way to blacks and with white libs stoking the fires you got problems.

    Nor were Trumps remarks about the lawless mauraders roaming central park and attacking people racist, in my opinion.

    But the central park 5 case bears too close a resemblance to the scotsboro boys. Horrifying injustices against young black men. Trumps remarks were sloppy and too easy to twist. Libs now say Trump wanted the cp 5 put to death. He didnt say that. But like I said his commentary was sloppy and hes not a dem so he doesnt get a pass.

  62. Trump has to convince black people that the connection between the birth cert and race never occurred to him AND be sorry for THAT.

  63. The age of the infraction doesn’t matter.
    The ways in which a black voter regards old news is no different than the white voter.

    Never said black memory was any worse than white. Not sure how you got that from my comment.

  64. I’d also argue a North Carolina black knows about birtherism but has no clue about what Trump said in the Central Park jogger attack which was really a local story, much less decades ago.

  65. @R – I admit Im having trouble finding your point. Youre saying the cp 5 remarks were too long ago to matter even to blacks, like Clintons superpredator comments.

    Why when Romney cutting that boys hair in high school mattered? Libs were all up in arms over that.

    You say blacks dont trust the GOP. I say thats the dem in you talking not the black guy.

  66. But the central park 5 case bears too close a resemblance to the scotsboro boys. Horrifying injustices against young black men.
    Is that sarcasm?
    The totality of events in Central Park that night indicated the 4 blacks & one latino were guilty of a number of disturbing criminal activities. The Armstrong report rings more true than the bleeding heart Burns deBlasio combo. DNA is a wonderful thing but I don’t buy into the bullshit that five teenagers steeped in ghetto culture would’ve rolled for something they had absolutely nothing to do with.

  67. “I’d also argue a North Carolina black knows about birtherism but has no clue about what Trump said in the Central Park jogger attack which was really a local story, much less decades ago.”

    They will if the media thinks they need to.

    We were talking about the problems with Trumps black outreach. I gave you two. Furthermore I think theyre the only two that will matter in the end.

    You disagree about one of them.

  68. You know this is exactly why this group pisses me off. No modern day Pres had his citizenship (and implicitly his patriotism) challenged on such a grand scale and he happened to be black. Give me a fucking break.

    And to answer Rabbit directly, the reason Obama’s background was exotic was that no way in hell was America electing some plantation progeny negro to the presidency. Half white and born in a state that was just “born” itself. Obama – yes. Jesse Jackson – hell no. Jim Clyburn – helll no. John Dumbass Lewis – helllllllll no!

    I still may not live to see a REAL black man elected as POTUS.

  69. No modern day Pres had his religious beliefs challenged on such a grand scale and he happened to be black. Give me a fucking break.

    Must be the black — or sorta black, now. . . I guess. Not negro though. That’s something different.

    There are so many parallels with former presidents you make persuasive argument. Pfffft.

  70. “Is that sarcasm?”

    No but you know the facts. Earlier I said the exhoneration was controversial. But the evidence that originally convicted them was also thinnish. No?

    As an aside, false confessions are a fascinating topic.

    Anyway, it resonates that a rich white guy was wishing they could have had killed our innocent sons.

    (Which is also not true.)

  71. What I mean by you know the facts Alfie is that you wouldnt fall for the twist on Trumps comments about law and order (and not killing innocent young black men.)

  72. Joe Biden said Obama was clean and articulate. He was different from the rest.

    Jessie Jackson and others had a history in the civil rights movement, and they were too liberal. Rightly or wrongly a firebrand image attatched to them.

    Obama was even more liberal, but as an unknown with a manufactured past and beautiful words about national reconciliation, he was the historical figure we were waiting for.

    I’m not a birther, but Obama’s past raised legitimate questions. Some of his actions led people to jump to conclusions about his patriotism.
    His skin color had little more to do with the questions than the conclusions about Hillary’s health. Obama, like the Clintons didn’t help enlighten us.

  73. I picked up my wife at the NCO wives club meeting. We visited for awhile. A friend had come with me. After he left, two of the wives told me they liked SGT H because he was smart, well-spoken, and not dangerous or resentful as many blacks were. SGT H was another version of Obama.

  74. “Give me a fucking break.” -R

    We give you a break. That doesnt translate to going along with that diatribe. I know I dont.

  75. “I think he was a Dem at the time.” -r

    He wasnt running for president at the time either. As a repub no less.

    Some things matter. Except when they dont.

    Kinda like black lives.

  76. “Tigre, the Friday bad news dump is the oldest trick in the book.” -R

    “From the FBI?” -Muffy

    It’s totally, totally fucked.

    Or is questioning it sexist?

  77. He wasnt running for president at the time either. As a repub no less.

    I’ll ask you two questions Muffy, a twofer of sorts.

    Do you really believe Donald is a Republican?

    Do you really believe Obama is truly religious?

  78. Putting aside the odd sexist snark (I guess my irony sensor is broken again), Tigre I agree with Muffy. One should not expect the oldest game in the book to be played by the FBI. At this point, they are an extension of the Clinton campaign, plain and simple.

  79. So Clinton is being followed around with a Benzo Pen, hey? 😆 😆 That’s the drug they gave me a few months back that probably helped to kill Prince too in a much larger quantity.

    So what is it, Hillary? Anxiety, alcoholism withdrawal, etc…

    And we can’t question this woman’s health?

  80. This joke from a FB post:

    “My flight was being served by an obviously gay flight attendant, who seemed to put everyone in a good mood as he served us food and drinks.

    As the plane prepared to descend, he came swishing down the aisle and told us that ‘Captain Marvey has asked me to announce that he’ll be landing the big scary plane shortly, so lovely people, if you could just put your trays up, that would be super.’

    On his trip back up the aisle, he noticed this well-dressed woman hadn’t moved a muscle. ‘Perhaps you didn’t hear me over those big brute engines, but I asked you to raise your trazy-poo, so the main man can pitty-pat us on the ground.’

    She calmly turned her head and said, ‘In my country, I am called a Princess, and I take orders from no one.’

    To which the flight attendant replied, without missing a beat, ‘Well, sweet-cheeks, in my country I’m called a Queen, so I outrank you. Tray-up, Bitch!'”

  81. The benzo pen is bullshit. I don’t recall what it really was but I read the debunking.

    Why do folks resort to such nonsense when obvious stuff like a chronic cough are low hanging fruit?

  82. When was it debunked? There’s pictures bouncing around this evening with that mystery man. 🙂

    The coughing spasms are secondary to the clear neurological trouble, Dr. Rutherford. 😈

  83. Snopes calls it unproven – not debunked. Big difference, as Snopes clearly a left-wing hack site. They speculate it’s a flashlight. For what? To check if her eyes are dialated? 😆 😆 😆

    Rutherford, LOL. You’ve still got hardcore Dim in you. You’re a Hillary drone, troubled because she’s a woman that reminds you of the shrew that shitcanned you. LOL You’re as screwed as Poolman.

  84. Yes I saw the speculation it’s a flashlight. I didn’t see it on Snopes.

    More low hanging fruit: she can’t remember shit and she, herself, blames it on the concussion.

    So again, why stupid theories about benzo pens?

    Just in case you think you “got” me, yup I freely admit she reminds me of the beeyotch who screwed me over but that alone isn’t enough to make me despair of the dem party. The DWS scandal proved the current dem party crooked as the day is long. Combine that with HRC serial lying and disregard for national security and that’s all I need.

    Sorry my friend, your persistence with the benzo pen puts YOU firmly in Poolman territory.

  85. “At this point, they are an extension of the Clinton campaign Democratic party, plain and simple.”

    Right up there with the Dept. of Justice, and been that way literally from the day Obama was sworn in. Neither one has given 2 shits about enforcing the law.

    Obama did this. Not Clinton….Obama.

  86. Honestly I’m unaware of FBI shenanigans before this during the Obama admin. Yes, I know the Justice Dept has been dubious, but the FBI?

    Not since the days of J. Edgar has it been this bad.

    I wonder if Comey wears women’s clothes in private. 😀😂

  87. “Yes, I know the Justice Dept has been dubious, but the FBI?”

    The term was nothingburger, not dubious.

    Everything a nothingburger. . .

  88. Sorry my friend, your persistence with the benzo pen puts YOU firmly in Poolman territory.

    That’s the same Poolman you’re willing to stick by thick and thin about your source of “religion.” 😛

    I care to wager you would have to look up when benzodiazepine is used for, and no my persistence doesn’t change the fact its most frequent use is to treat anxiety – anxiety as in a change of brain chemistry.

    You’re a little to quick to just on “conspiracy” when the best your hack sights can come up with proof is “unproven.”

  89. Flashlight?

    Any ideas who the dude is? He supposedly ain’t SS.

    Handicapped designated spaces in the fictitious town Chappaqua?

  90. Rutherford, you should read Betsys Page again today.

    Hillary is a criminal given a set of standards different from the rest of us. Most of the Democratic Party, liberal news media, and entertainers are aiding and abetting her corruption.

    They have the Justice Department, the IRS and the FBI.

    Anyone voting for Democrats this time is an accessory to a crime. Even the Green Party fools are a better choice.

    Hillary’s not having health problems is a lie. Something is wrong with her. They hid FDR’s serious medical problems, and he died in office. They hid JFK’s illnesses and the drugs he had to take and nearly ended our world with the Cuban missile crisis.

  91. “I’ll ask you two questions Muffy, a twofer of sorts.

    Do you really believe Donald is a Republican?

    Do you really believe Obama is truly religious?”-R

    This better be leading somewhere or else.

    Donald a Republican – I dont know. Hes running as one.

    Obama “truly religious” – your idea of religious is hopelessly tangled so Ill have to answer it this way – is he a believer? I have no idea. I dont know and I dont care. If you meant something else by religious, clarify.

    Now take me to your point.

  92. Im not sure why anyone would be compelled to take a strong position against the idea that Hillary is not well. Im not being flip in the least when I say not well.

  93. R, Muffy and JAmes, and Tex are right. There’s something wrong. You simply denying it is proof there’s something wrong with you, not proof that she’s okay. That something is your uncontrollable urge to thoughtlessly repeat Dem party propaganda.

  94. Im not sure why anyone would be compelled to take a strong position against the idea that Hillary is not well.

    Is that a friggin’ triple negative? My head just exploded.

    To provide you with one possible answer: there are women who think her health is being questioned because she is a woman. If memory serves, John McCain with a documented health history that was scary did not get this level of scrutiny – and his choice for heartbeat from the POTUS was a dingbat.

  95. “Is that a friggin’ triple negative? My head just exploded.”

    And yet you understood, my petty pal.

    Taking issue with my grammar is a clear indicator that your head is probably already in a state of disarray, most likely a result of yesterdays differences of opinion on the scrutiny of a man whose past was as provocative as his name. Scrutiny that most of us regard as highly restrained, and which you find wanton and racist.

    Lets not play grammar school. Most of us are on our phones and you yourself go from deriding Tex for correcting his own to feinting that your scholarly sensibilities are shattered by mine.

    You want to knock my clarity, be my guest.

    And just so we ARE clear, Obama wound up in the WH because of the color of his skin.

  96. Tex, please stop embarrassing yourself. Frankly you just turned in your I’m-in-a-position-to-critcize-Poolman card. Maybe you just call yourself having fun. I watched the video. Lots of interesting conjecture. Let me make my own observations.

    The doctor says it’s about her health, not politics, and then lectures us about Muslim sympathizer Huma Abedin making decisions while Hillary is too sick to make them. Give me a fucking break.

    Isn’t infowars Alex Jones? So some unidentified SS agent told Infowars that HRC has Parkinson’s. If Poolman offered up Alex Jones’ organization, you’d laugh him out of the bar.

    At 11:43 the aide says “you’re ok, keep talking, you handle it, we’re not going anywhere” so doctor narrated this totally wrong. Not only did the doctor quote the aide incorrectly, but his assertion that Hillary repeated the aide’s words verbatim is bullshit. She just said “we’re not going anywhere.”

    The email shown is NOT between Hillary and Huma Abedin as the doctor said – it’s between Hillary and Cheryl Mills.

    It’s interesting to note the doctor is reading — look at his eyes. He’s reading queue cards. Who wrote the stuff he’s saying? Did he? Or is he some patsy? I do know he is a fucking anesthesiologist who has no lock on knowledge about Parkinson’s.

    OK I watched your nonsense – now you can read mine.

    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/09/07/no-there-is-no-evidence-that-hillary-clinton-has-parkinsons-disease/

    Unless you posted that video as a joke (please tell me you did), your days of criticizing Poolman are OVER.

  97. “To provide you with one possible answer…”

    No no. Why are you so strongly against the suggestion that she may be gravely ill? You think it’s sexist?

    So resistant are you that you call the benzo pen theory stupid and debunked (so far it is neither) and put Tex “firmly in Poolman’s territory.” Which is preposterous.

    Why this Hill, soldier boy?

  98. Yuh oh. Escalation. It obvious Tex touched a nerve. What’s not so clear is why this is a sensitive area for Rutherford.

    Don’t you find those freezes a little striking, Rutherford? And the fact that her handler seems to be trained in a very particular form of rescue? My own guess would be more along the lines of peripheral neuropathy, but this is hardly P-man territory. He would be putting up endless pictures of different actresses standing in for a Hillary who died in 2012 in that fall in her home. Or maybe a link to her human suit hanging up at the Chappaqua Dry Cleaners.

    @ Tex – “They speculate it’s a flashlight. For what? To check if her eyes are dilated?”

    A strobe perhaps, to thwart an attacker.

  99. Why this Hill, soldier boy?

    Lots of reading comprehension problems here. Did you see my remark about low hanging fruit? Hillary said her memory suffers from the concussion. Hillary embarrassingly delayed the resumption of her debate with Sanders on live TV cos she was in the ladies room. She coughs a lot. I NEVER said she’s in perfect health. She could well have issues. But I’d rather focus on what we all can see instead of complex theories posited by the partisan put-you-to-sleep doctor.

  100. Now take me to your point.

    I was trying to get a feel for how you conjecture about various topics. We don’t KNOW if Obama is a sincere Christian (or an atheist as I suspect) and we don’t KNOW if Trump is truly a Republican (or a typical NYC lib-moderate-lib as I suspect).

    While I know you don’t care about my opinion of you, I do consider you an intelligent person. So, honestly I am befuddled at any attempt on your part to justify Trump as a serious candidate. I DO understand your making a protest vote (or a keep Hillary out vote).

  101. Don’t you find those freezes a little striking, Rutherford?

    Muffy, do you have a TiVo? Have you ever paused the video and caught the speaker in a very weird facial expression? Sometimes folks look odd in the course of just being themselves and if you tape it and replay it in a loop you can certainly convince yourself something might be wrong. The infamous vid of Hillary bobbing her head all over the place has been explained as her exaggerating her response to an overload of questions coming from reporters. It was body language for “slow down, one at a time”. It looks very strange when played in a loop over and over again. Could it have been the after effect of a drug? Sure it could. But guess what? Dr. Noel and Dr. Taylor actually have no better handle on that diagnosis than I do. Tex couldn’t even produce a video with an expert on PD.

    What gets me riled about this argument is that perfectly intelligent people go off on nutty tangents when the criticism of Hillary rests in indisputable fact — no need for any theories. She is a proven fucking liar and likely criminal.

    And I’ll throw you a HUGE bone here – I was very SILLY eight years ago to go off on theories about whether or not Trig was Sarah’s baby. I did it because I HATED the woman. It was ridiculous to argue about. Palin’s flaws were so obvious that to get into conjecture about her reproductive abilities was asinine. And I suspect the current flurry of health stuff about HRC is also fueled by hatred. I get hating her. But this time, let’s focus on what we really know.

  102. Alfie, the health of the candidates is absolutely fair game. The question at hand is who can we trust to make a determination. The doctor who wrote Trump’s clean bill of health letter is a total joke. You only hear about that on MSNBC, not Fox.

  103. “I was trying to get a feel for how you conjecture about various topics…”

    Hopefully you found what you were looking for.

    “So, honestly I am befuddled at any attempt on your part to justify Trump as a serious candidate. I DO understand your making a protest vote (or a keep Hillary out vote).”

    Honey, you’re flapping around. This is me caring about who wins this election –

  104. Rutherford, you may be right about her health.

    She is a complete fucking liar. 2. She’s older than/then dirt. Even older then/than James. 3. Who is that black guy?

  105. Is that black guy Van Jones? I have no idea and not time to look it up.

    Hillary is sick. Look at her known medical record.

    Compare her posture to Trump’s. Compare her energy level to Trumps. She, not he is taking more time off.

    I will be 74 in October. My blood pressure is 115/65 with a pulse rate of 67. I have no arthritis and the only medication I take is a drop a night for glaucoma in one eye. My optic nerve is deteriorating, and the doctor still doesn’t know why I still have 20/30 vision. I have had cataracts since 2000.

    The doctor calls me an over achiever. I recently broke a plastic lung capacity machine at a health screening. They let me try another, and I broke it too.

    Compared to me Hillary is at death’s door.

    I don’t know if she is really suffering from a serious malady, but the fact that she shows symptoms needs to be investigate by impartial doctors. Trump too, but Hillary seems to have more problems.

  106. Not sure why that got all separated.

    Best article of the election year.

    2016 is the Flight 93 election: charge the cockpit or you die. You may die anyway. You—or the leader of your party—may make it into the cockpit and not know how to fly or land the plane. There are no guarantees.

    Except one: if you don’t try, death is certain. To compound the metaphor: a Hillary Clinton presidency is Russian Roulette with a semi-auto. With Trump, at least you can spin the cylinder and take your chances.

    To ordinary conservative ears, this sounds histrionic. The stakes can’t be that high because they are never that high—except perhaps in the pages of Gibbon. Conservative intellectuals will insist that there has been no “end of history” and that all human outcomes are still possible. They will even—as Charles Kesler does—admit that America is in “crisis.” But how great is the crisis? Can things really be so bad if eight years of Obama can be followed by eight more of Hillary, and yet Constitutionalist conservatives can still reasonably hope for a restoration of our cherished ideals? Cruz in 2024!

    Not to pick (too much) on Kesler, who is less unwarrantedly optimistic than most conservatives. And who, at least, poses the right question: Trump or Hillary? Though his answer—“even if [Trump] had chosen his policies at random, they would be sounder than Hillary’s”—is unwarrantedly ungenerous. The truth is that Trump articulated, if incompletely and inconsistently, the right stances on the right issues—immigration, trade, and war—right from the beginning.

    But let us back up. One of the paradoxes—there are so many—of conservative thought over the last decade at least is the unwillingness even to entertain the possibility that America and the West are on a trajectory toward something very bad. On the one hand, conservatives routinely present a litany of ills plaguing the body politic. Illegitimacy. Crime. Massive, expensive, intrusive, out-of-control government. Politically correct McCarthyism. Ever-higher taxes and ever-deteriorating services and infrastructure. Inability to win wars against tribal, sub-Third-World foes. A disastrously awful educational system that churns out kids who don’t know anything and, at the primary and secondary levels, can’t (or won’t) discipline disruptive punks, and at the higher levels saddles students with six figure debts for the privilege. And so on and drearily on. Like that portion of the mass where the priest asks for your private intentions, fill in any dismal fact about American decline that you want and I’ll stipulate it.

    Lot more in the article but it keeps impressing me through to the end. For such a brilliant article I was surprised to see the author opted to remain anonymous.

    http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/

  107. I like Noah’s comparison.

    I agree with Alfie. Its why I am not a conservative.

    Yes, Hillary’s supporters are sick. They were so falsely concerned about McCain when he was running.

  108. Tigre, I want my fucking gold star and a commendation note sent home to my Mommy. My lazy intellectual ass not only suffered through Tex’s video but I just finished the War and Peace essay posted by Noah. Good googly moogly!

    Noah – I don’t like Hillary one bit but I’m not ready to declare Flight 93 just yet if she gets elected. I do think it will be ugly but rumors of our country’s demise are greatly exaggerated.

    We simply have to become comfortable with a fact the Claremont author seems to ignore – we are no longer in control – if we ever were. Everybody would be best served to find some stable way to make money and keep their family safe while the folks who really control the direction of the ship do their thing.

  109. “Everybody would be best served to find some stable way to make money and keep their family safe while the folks who really control the direction of the ship do their thing.”

    If you truely believe this to be true, would you morally object to some people making war on the government?

  110. we are no longer in control – if we ever were. Everybody would be best served to find some stable way to make money and keep their family safe while the folks who really control the direction of the ship do their thing.

    Control is an interesting concept. There are plenty of things that are beyond our control, yet unwavering faith can move mountains. Learn the serenity prayer, Rutherford, and take back your control. It is important to take care of your own, of course. Timing is key. Part of that is assuring the ship stays afloat. But pirates have taken over this ship and their plan is to sink it after they have relieved it of its crew and valuables. They use force and deception to maintain control. They cannot control the wind or the sea or the beat of their own hearts, however. So hope remains. Besides, times are exciting and will only get moreso as the jubilee of jubilees winds down. The season calls for a time of total restoration and renewal. We could certainly use it about now. Timing.

  111. Freedom and control are in the mind. External circumstances may dictate your outer life, but they cannot touch your soul.

    “In the fell clutch of circumstance
    I have not winced nor cried aloud
    Under the bludgeonings of chance
    My head is bloody but unbowed

    It matters not how straight the gate
    How charged with punishment the scroll
    I am master of my fate.
    I am captain of my soul” William Ernest Henly

  112. So I watched a 20 minute video by a former HuffPo contributor named David Seaman. His posts on Hillary’s health were deleted from the publication and he has since been denied access to post any other articles.

    If you accept his skepticism about Hill’s health you have to also accept his Pool-like ravings about Lady Rothchild and the new world order. One particular I found interesting was his assertion that Rolling Stone contributor Michael Hastings was murdered. I was a fan of Hastings and I also suspected foul play. But Seaman screws the pooch claiming Hastings had no problems. I saw the dude in one of his last tv appearances and he looked high as a kite. Drugs? Maybe. Mental disturbance because he was being threatened? Maybe. But 0% doubt the dude was not without problems. He was fucked up, one way or the other.

    We’ve got a weird mix of folks going after Hillary and not all of them are helping the anti-Hillary cause.

  113. I cannot believe I am saying this but Trump won the night at the NBC Forum. His answers were for the most part short and to the point. Hillary, on the other hand, droned on and on trying to prove she could get into the weeds.

  114. They were so falsely concerned about McCain when he was running.

    As I said earlier, McCain didn’t get 1/10th the scrutiny HRC is getting despite documented health risks by reputable doctors whom he did not refute.

  115. If you truely believe this to be true, would you morally object to some people making war on the government?

    I guess you’re saying that falls under the keep your family safe clause?

    I’m not being snarky … isn’t that the ultimate point of the 2nd Amendment? Our constitution has a built in government eject button in extreme cases. I think gov overthrow is a VERY dangerous idea but if ones family is at stake, that of course is a possibility.

  116. “They say the health stuff is bullshit. They don’t say “she’s sick and I don’t care.”

    I guess you could’ve said the same of Howard Hughes. You can blow off anything and at some point it’s just wilful blindness. I think the MSNBC dummies call it nothingburgers.

    Maybe there’s nothing wrong with her. But there’s a lot of strange assed behavior.

  117. Rutherford, your medical knowledge is limited to say the least. I just read up about your sourcing, replete with “wingnut” expletives. {snicker} And accuse me of Poolman like conspiracies, when it was you flabbergasted by a missing jet for weeks on end – you must have been tuning into CNN that month.

    You think your pseudo scientist moonbat trying to apply the anti-vaccine kick is more “certified” to diagnose PD than an anesthesiologist? LOL. Hey dumbshit? Nurses can diagnose Parkinsons.

    Let’s make a bet? A real one? I’ll bet you a thousand dollars Hillary Rotten Clinton has a degenerative nerve disorder? Well place a $1,000.00, effective one year from today.

    And then I’m going to shove it up that little, greasy ass of yours when you’re proven wrong in the harshest way possible, like the good, old days. 😈

    What do you say, punk? Real healthy…a veritable fountain of health. 😛

  118. You musta put in the wrong email genius Taylor as I had to approve your nasty comment.

    Ain’t that a bitch that I have to approve insulting comments? I need to get fucking paid. I’m gonna put this fucker behind a paywall! 😀😀😀🤔🤔😀😀

  119. Tex you have such bravado betting a dead broke dude a thousand dollars. LOL

    You’ve said yourself you threw money down the toilet with that med school stint but sheeeeut, they didn’t even teach you that you can’t diagnose from your fucking BarcaLounger? 😂😂😂

  120. When Hillary is using her fogged memory as excuse, it doesn’t exactly help the debunker Rutherford’s case.

    Again … incredibly poor reading comprehension. Let me state for the umpteenth time: Hillary saying she lost her memory due to concussion is low hanging fruit. THAT is a valid reason to be concerned about her health.

    Do you know what low hanging fruit means, Tex or do they not use that phrase in OK? I’ve used it at least 3 times in this thread.

  121. Sometimes Muffy a good argument can be fatally contaminated with a bad point.

    Case in point: a good chunk of what Poolman says about pot makes sense but then he goes and ruins it with “pot cures cancer”.

    It’s a real bitch when someone tells you you’re standing in the path of an oncoming train and then identifies himself as Santa Claus. Do you believe the nutjob or not?

  122. Hillary is not well. She broke her arm during a fall. She had a concussion with a blood clot that forces her to take a blood thinner which would threaten her life with bleeding should she fall again etc. Bill said it took about a half year for her to recover from the effects of her concussion.

    She didn’t take a leave of absence while running one of the most important operations in the US as an impared leader.

    I had my own concussion which made my brain swell. After effects are that sometimes I don’t recognize faces of people I know. Sometimes I blank out and forget where I put my car keys, cameras etc.

    God only knows what ails Hillary. She lies so often even she has to hunt for a needle in a hay stack to find truth.

    My description of Hillary’s injuries are from memory and may be off a bit. Please check. After all with my head injury, I cannot be expected to remember e mails or other things as well as others.

  123. Yes Rutherford, I think one can legitimately take up arms in rebellion. The country also has a right to kill you if it can.

    McCain got more scrutiny than one tenth. I remember considerable speculation about McCain’s death and the presidency of Sarah Palin. Hillary encourages more scrutiny because of her obvious fragility, her history, and her lies. Her opponents naturally believe the worst.

    Both sides have used health as a political weapon. Right now, Trumpists etc have more ammunition,

  124. Alfie whose conservative bona fides do you accept?

    Muffy it’s not the believers I am calling out it is the faith. I’m pretty sure most politicians calling themselves conservatives mean it fwiw. The problem I have and I posted on it back in April, is conservatism is a splintered,fractious mess and essentially a lie.

  125. Maybe Hillary is deaf.

    Rev Popoff, I think, received revelations from God during his meetings. It seemed miraculous how he picked people from the crowd and shared personal information no one could have known.

    The Amazing Randy and his allies investigated. They discovered that Popoff’s wife used information gleened from initial interviews to feed revelations to her husband. They picked up and recorded the broadcasts from wife to husband.

    If Hillary was wearing such an ear piece, could the messages be intercepted ala Randy? Or with today’s technology could they be hidden?

  126. “It’s a real bitch when someone tells you you’re standing in the path of an oncoming train and then identifies himself as Santa Claus. Do you believe the nutjob or not?”

    Believe the truth not the person. If you’re standing in line at Burger Barn then Santa is probably lying.

  127. “DR, what TV shows are you watching these days?”

    Huck, I have been showless since GoT. Should I watch Tyrant? Thinking about Stranger Things.

    I did watch Dare Devil season 2, actually. I’m not proud of that and can’t recommend it.

  128. Over 3 seasons Tyrant had some high and low points, but overall I thought it was a very good show. I would recommend it. Unfortunately, FX has cancelled it and this week was likely the series finale.

  129. Gary Johnson was so ill-prepared for the FP stage last night he didn’t know what Aleppo was.

    I don’t take him seriously and this does nothing to change my mind.

  130. Voting on the state ballot questions in November and that’s about it. I was willing to look over a lot of LP shortcomings but a failure to show you have read a fucking headline over the past few years isn’t one I can tolerate.
    The sad thing is neither of the Big 2 Spews deserve any accolades on Syria either.

  131. I will say this though…
    That the Trump/Clinton types views on Syria are demonstrably incorrect and in fact synergistic to the death and instability racking the Syrian people and overflowing into the region. Also Mike Barnacle the plagiarist douchebag is the last person to credibly shed tears for the strife within Aleppo and bemoan others knowledge of it.
    There are very few American pols and journalists (more likely 0) who are on the right side of Aleppo & on the larger front Syria.

  132. On the subject of the Night at the Museum military fuck show the media frenzy to curry support of their chosen icons is amusing even if in a sickening way.
    The folks looking to play up Hillary as having provided sound answers but no real connectivity apparently saw something I didn’t. they clearly failed to connect the dots that she is responsible for the placing Americans and other nationals in harms way through her primacy believing Wilsonian gulping antics.
    The pro-Trumps can at least hang their hat on his staying consistent to his ridiculous claims. the anti-trumpets are far more amusing though. Folks like the db’s @ Slate who are continuing to try to hammer away at the Syria,Putin,Iran thing. Fucking amazing!
    IDK maybe I will still vote for Johnson/Weld since they at least truly don’t believe in sending my kid and neighbors kids to places they sadly don’t know.

  133. Tyrant strikes me as a show that never became what the original intent was. One thing American television is always good at is fucking up great potential secondary to fear and focus groups of too much tv morons.

  134. DR and Huck, if either of you can stream HBO, try “The Night Of …” Really good limited series about a murder trial. Co-stars John Turturro who knocks it out of the park.

  135. My daughter told me “Stranger Things” is pretty good…I can’t believe I found this outstanding gravatar of Hillary’s neurological problems for the closet Hillary fan and did’t even get an attaboy for my troubles. 😛

  136. Gary Johnson was so ill-prepared for the FP stage last night he didn’t know what Aleppo was.
    I don’t take him seriously and this does nothing to change my mind.

    Ok you just confused me. At first I thought you meant Donald Trump and not Gary Johnson but then you mentioned Aleppo which I don’t think was ever brought up last night at the Commander in Chief Forum. What are you referring to?

  137. That the Trump/Clinton types views on Syria are demonstrably incorrect

    I’m not sure I completely get this. Trump wants a safe zone established within Syria to slow down the migration. Clinton wants to bring a lot of refugees here. I don’t recall if she wants to do that in conjunction with a safe zone. I think Trump wants a temporary alliance among us, Russia and Assad to defeat ISIL. HRC does not.

    Are you saying the two are just slightly different flavors of the same thing?

  138. @Rutherford a Syrian Quickie which has nothing to do with porno…
    Clinton and all her likely Administration cohorts supports regime change,no fly zones and working with our allies.
    We’ve pissed away our “allies” by allowing the Turks to push on the Kurds and we’ve done nothing to help the FSA or any remnant thereof.
    Trump is out of touch with anything resembling reality regards Syria and his desires are equally so. He hates Obama’s plans is one key talking point yet his most consistent points are exactly what Obama has finally decided to do. Focus on ISIL,allow other “boots” to do the grunt work,first the Kurds now the Turks,and step up airstrikes. Much like Trump though Obama doesn’t have an after party plan.
    We should never have gotten involved with the Syrian Civil War unlike Obama,Clinton,Kerry.
    We have zero power over stemming the real refugee crisis which US impact pales in comparison to.
    We have lost all credibility in the region and have forfeited all future hand as the whole shit saga flows on.

    I’ve said it before. The winners and losers of Syria=
    WINNERS: Assad,Iran,Russia with some potential for the Turks and a big but diminishing ? for the Kurds.
    Losers: The Syrian people first,foremost and above all. The USA,Saudi Arabia & EU are losers and quite possibly in that order even though the EU is a headliner for western eyes.

  139. Not unlike the Gaza propaganda there is a portion of Aleppo that other than reliable electricity looks pretty freaking normal. Buildings standing,street scenes of merchants etc.

  140. LOL Rabbit always the smug SOB. First, it’s ONE survey.
    Second I’ve seen enough surveys to see they didn’t know how to do a proper survey (e.g. odd selection of answer choices).
    Third, AAPS violated medical standards in the first place by asking doctors to weigh in on a patient they’ve never examined. Reputable doctors don’t do what Tex does.

    You’re beating a dead horse Rabbit and being a moron to boot.

    1) Neither Clinton nor Trump have provided the full health disclosure that that the voting public deserves.
    2) For the millionth FUCKING time, I SAID THE CONCUSSION SHOULD BE OF CONCERN!!!! I don’t need to speculate about goddam Parkinson’s disease.

    What is it about you and Tex that you can’t get this through your thick skulls? I never claimed she was healthy. I said that what she alone has already admitted (either publicly or privately to the FBI) is cause for concern. What I am rejecting are the speculative conspiracy theories.

  141. Let’s just call them theories. That is what they are, before the CIA coined the term as a derogatory to use for those questioning the word of the state in regard to the JFK assassination.

    She doesn’t look healthy, and that is an observation. She definitely has an earpiece and has to have help up steps. The ‘forum’ wasn’t a debate and she did not meet in the same room with her ‘opponent’. At this point it is all theater. The humpty dumpty caricature is perfect and true. It is too bad you have no common sense. You cannot observe the signs.

  142. Santa Claus is a lie
    The Easter bunny is a lie
    The wars and conflicts were all started based on lies
    911 was an inside job
    wmds was a lie
    Obama a lie
    Hillary lies

    Here lies shamerica, a nation built upon lies.

  143. I don’t believe that. I do believe all people are created for a purpose. Equal is not a term that means the same to everyone. That the Creator show no favoritism, yes we are all equal. That our struggles are the same, not at all. That we are unique and only have what we can each deal with, yes we are equal. That we understand and use the power we hold equally, not at all.

  144. The funny thing R, in a lot of ways… You are being somewhat reasonable with this. And still you are going to get burned. Again!

    I’m telling you… She is hiding something….

    And you know what? Even if we are wrong….man does she deserve every bit of this. This is how serial liars are to be treated.

  145. 97% of scientists believe that climate change is a man-made,

    71% DOCTORS SAY HILLARY HEALTH CONCERNS SERIOUS!!!!

    And R knows there’s something up from the weather patterns he witnessed from his home in CT.

  146. And R knows there’s something up from the weather patterns he witnessed from his home in CT.

    You’re absolutely right. My weather predictions from my window in Middlebury, CT were as preposterous as Tex’s BarcaLounger diagnosis. 😊

  147. This is how serial liars are to be treated.

    Ok now I have to take back the moron comment. If we’re gonna base our opinion of Hillary’s health on HER credibility then, shit, she may drop dead before Election Day.

    By the way, tonight on With All Due Respect, Mark Halperin said “one of these two will probably be president in January”. And I thought, probably? 🤔

  148. “You’re absolutely right. My weather predictions from my window in Middlebury, CT were as preposterous as Tex’s BarcaLounger diagnosis.”

    Your observations were proved wrong.

    Tex’s have not.

  149. I guess when 3 out of 4 doctors say something is seriously wrong with Hillary, Dr. Whig Rutherford and his medical degree in math</strike? Spanish knows better.

    😆 😆 😆

    You’re going to be eating a rock hard turd before it is through, Whig.

  150. Your observations were proved wrong.
    Tex’s have not.

    First, as usual you couldn’t gracefully accept my attempt at humility.

    Second, I haven’t been proven wrong. In case you haven’t noticed, the 90+% scientific consensus has not budged one bit and most folks still view climate change deniers as Neanderthals. 😀😀😀😂

    But, to repeat myself, I’ve acknowledged that climate change is a theory about which I am less than 100% certain. Unlike the Neanderthals, I don’t summarily dismiss it.

  151. Speaking of conspiracies, I can still remember when Rutherford announced with great glee, the Republican Party was through…

    That was before Obama lost 14 Senate Seats
    That was before Obama lost 69 Senate Seats
    That was before Obama lost approximately 1,100 State Senate Seats

    Making Obama’s America the most Republican it’s been since Reconstruction…

    Here you go, Dr. Whig. Here’s the final nail in the clean negro’s coffin before he goes down as the worst President in American history. A final award for the Nobel Peace Prize Winner:

    ** NEWLY DISCOVERED FLATWORM IS NAMED AFTER OBAMA **
    Introducing baracktrema Obamai

    http://www.popsci.com/newly-discovered-blood-fluke-is-named-after-obama

    👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿

  152. LOL, all I can say Tex is that there’s a registrars office at an Oklahoma med school erasing any evidence of your attendance there. It’s called reputation protection. 😂😂😂

  153. I’ve heard a couple of times in the past 24 hours that it’s disgraceful that Trump praised a former “KGB guy”. Have we forgotten that Bush 41 was a “CIA guy”? What’s the difference? BTW, McMullin is a former CIA guy.

  154. To echo Alfie’s comment about Barnacle, tonight Bob Schrum was dissing Gary Johnson. Schrum hasn’t won a campaign in decades. He is an utter failure who inexplicably keeps appearing on TV as an “expert”.

  155. Well, I have to make a confession that disqualifies me from being President. I only vaguely recall hearing the name Aleppo within the past week and even then I’m not sure I knew it had anything to do with Syria. Of course I know there is a crisis in Syria but Aleppo specifically? Nope.

    I just watched the MoJo segment and the minute Johnson self-immolated the footer on the screen said “Johnson: What is Aleppo?” Then the panel stewed over it for ten minutes.

    I guess if Trump had been asked, he would’ve faked it. At least Johnson was honest about his ignorance. He needed Weld there.

  156. The funny part is Johnson’s gaffe gave Mika license to tell everyone they had no choice but to vote for Hillary Clinton. Good God!!

    P.S. Then Joe Scarborough lost his shit on Mika.

  157. “Second, I haven’t been proven wrong. In case you haven’t noticed, the 90+% scientific consensus has not budged one bit and most folks still view climate change deniers as Neanderthals.”

    Your “observations” were proved wrong when I posted the historical weather data for CT and IL.

    I could shut this blog down if I posted all of the data that refutes global warming.

    The 97% has budged.

    The 71% has not.

    Ha.

  158. As we know, Democrats with the Slow Bleed and other measures tried to let more of our troops die than would have with the Surge to win an election. They also worked to make the so called government shut down more painful to average Americans than it had to be.

    Now, the Wall Street Journal tells us that the democratic filibuster of the zika bill is about helping Patrick Murphy who is running against Marco Rubio. Democrats would rather let babies suffer from birth defects than lose an election. Either that or they are willing to let babies die to protect Planned Parenthood.

    You may question my logic, and you would be wrong.

  159. The earth has been warming with interuptions since the end of the Little Ice Age. Humans have had little to do with the change. It is a reaction to the big chill of the late Middle Ages and early modern age. The sun may be involved.

    I have little doubt that we are a small influence, but we cannot yet reverse trends. We only add a little to what is already happening.

    Climategate e mails show how scientists have cooked the books and tried to exclude naysayers.

    More importantly, none of the schemes to stop climate change will work. They will take more of our money and freedom for redistritubion which is what the left really wants.

    They don’t care for our welfare any more than they do about zika babies or when our troops were dying in Iraq.

    Alfie makes some good points, but I am still voting straight ticket Republican for the first time.

  160. My logic is the same as when Democrats implemented the Slow Bleed. If it was good enough for them, it is good enough for me.

  161. LOL, all I can say Tex is that there’s a registrars office at an Oklahoma med school erasing any evidence of your attendance there. It’s called reputation protection.

    I have a good feeling that there is a registrar’s office at Harvard that is keeping your failed academia records locked tight with Obama’s, to attempt to dispel the myth that Harvard highly overrated and you two are the proof.

    No worries, though. There’s also a credit man tallying the credit score of one Rutherford Lawson and Mrs. that won’t need to be so dishonest. :mrgreen:

    I’m a patient man. I can wait for the truth to come out, which you’ll deny. So I want the room to remember all these “conspiracy” charges you’re casting now so we can mock your miserable existence unmercifully. Here’s hoping you live long enough. 😛

  162. The funny part is Johnson’s gaffe gave Mika license to tell everyone they had no choice but to vote for Hillary Clinton. Good God!!

    When I was a kid my older relatives all watched soap operas during the daytime. These ‘stories’ and actors were a source of entertainment and part of their daily conversation. Today we have channels like msnbc…

    P.S. Then Joe Scarborough lost his shit on Mika.

    More entertainment and faux outrage. Got to keep them watching so the sponsors can interject their own poison propaganda that produces profit.

    Where do go for your real news? Here?

  163. “I guess if Trump had been asked, he would’ve faked it. At least Johnson was honest about his ignorance. He needed Weld there.

    That would have been pretty hard to pull off.

    And Johnson had no choice. He’s also feining a brain fart in the aftermath. Thats a lie.

  164. “What I am rejecting are the speculative conspiracy theories.”

    Vigorously.

    All speculation isn’t a conspiracy. Even if the nutjobs of the world are on board.

  165. There’s also a credit man tallying the credit score of one Rutherford Lawson and Mrs. that won’t

    If you’re referring to my credit rating, it’s excellent and always has been. No matter how hard times have gotten, I’ve always paid my bills. No deadbeat here.

    LOL, as for my academic record, puhleeze – if elections were based on college gpa, I’d never get higher than dog catcher. 😊

  166. If you’re referring to my credit rating, it’s excellent and always has been. No matter how hard times have gotten, I’ve always paid my bills.

    That was then, this is now. The debt service is at hand. From a Magna Cum. Like Obama. 🙂 Only I got the proof. Buwahahaha

  167. Congress pushes snowball down mountain declares they have zero responsibility for massive amounts of foreign litigation against George W Bush,Ronald Reagan etc etc.
    Exactly how fucking low does your IQ have to hit before you’re not allowed to hold public office?

  168. Alfie, is this your way of saying you don’t favor Americans suing Saudi Arabia? I do. If Obama vetoes the bill as expected, he’s a fool.

    We should have bombed them and not Iraq. It’s time we stopped being SA’s bitch.

  169. Good for the goose good for the gander baby.
    Ring ring…. Uncle Sam you have a Guatamalean on line 1 an Iraqi on 2 Afghanis on lines 3 thru 7 Iran is on 8 and Cuba is holding on 9….

  170. Also on another level France is quoted as saying they are interested in looking into a similiar law as well as making sure laws don’t carve out exemptions for the US and its allies. To me that reads all the Euro Weenies that wanted to sue Bush and Cheney back in the day will just try again.

  171. This bill is a feel good pos. Folks want to use it to go on fishing trips under the guise of discovery.
    The only thing that this will accomplish is costly assaults upon US sovereignty.

  172. Hey we live in a litigious world. If countries want to sue us, be my guest. I wouldn’t mind seeing every 9/11 survivor and deceased family getting a million a piece from those rich fucks who peddle terrorism while they hold bitches like us hostage with their oil.

  173. “I wouldn’t mind seeing every 9/11 survivor and deceased family getting a million a piece from those rich fucks who peddle terrorism while they hold bitches like us hostage with their oil”

    Well said!

  174. That female pavement chimp’s behavior would need Dr. Jane Goodall to explain – must be territorial or something. 🙂 But I will tell you that’s the typical kind of behavior I see in Rutherford’s “people” these days, especially when dealing with their small children.

    And then he wonders why Dr. Tex has become such a cynic about the “urban” motivations sponsored by Dear Leader Obama and Colin Kaepernick. 😆

  175. Hillary can’t even be honest about her sports preferences. Apparently after years of being a Cubs fan, when she became NY Senator, she claimed “I’ve always been a Yankees fan”. 🙄

    Hey Tex, I hear Kaepernick’s stunt may be catching on with other players. Damn, you can’t even be comfortable in your skin at a football game that you PAID to attend!

  176. Hey Tex, I hear Kaepernick’s stunt may be catching on with other players.

    That’s actually excellent news, R. I’m hoping the NFL offends so many white people, it becomes like the WWF. Pay per View only, and these black imbeciles learn what half a degree in African studies with a C average is really worth.

  177. “Tyrant strikes me as a show that never became what the original intent was.”

    It seemed to get sidetracked in season 2, but this last season got back on track, showing how the making of a tyrant can be a process of cause and effect. I was really looking forward to a next season.

  178. Huck to further illustrate my point, Johnson and Weld were on With All Due Respect on Wednesday and Weld had to help Johnson with the name of a Supreme Court case.

    He’s still getting my vote, but Johnson clearly illustrates what too much pot can do to the brain.

    It is truly dumbfounding how there is no good choice this year. I can be high and mighty about not voting for Trump or Clinton but do I REALLY want to be responsible for a stoner running the country? 😳😳😳😳

  179. There are times I fear one day we may all bow to Poolman.

    Case in point, twice today I hear MSNBC calling RT America Russian propaganda. Now I will admit the channel is an offshoot of a Russian media outlet BUT it features or has featured Abby Martin (seen in several vids posted here), Lee Camp and Ed Schultz, all leftists critical of the liberal ESTABLISHMENT in this country. (Larry King is now on the network.)

    MSNBC has its hair on fire because Larry King interviewed Trump on RT America.

    My point is the so called leftist MSNBC feels threatened by RT America and slanders it as Russian propaganda. Holy fuck!!! They are as afraid of the truth as every other news outlet. They lean left only so long as the status quo is not disturbed.

    I got a hint of this with Bernie when MSNBC mostly kissed Hillary’s ass. But damn! Now they’re calling those further left than they are Russian propagandists!!!

    Poolman is right. They are ALL owned by somebody. I don’t know who. But the difference between Fox and MSNBC is an illusion. It’s noise to distract us from the truth. And folks like Lee Camp are using the Net to bypass the filter and tell us the truth.

    We may all be fucking pawns! Who’s moving the pieces?

  180. 😆 Truth is what’s left standing when all of the illusions are gone, Rutherford. The teevee is an effective delivery system, but it has to have an audience to delivery its poison because it is ALWAYS a two way (give and take) relationship. Everything interacts with something else in life. No way is any programming benign. These lies we have grown up with can only be sustained by our collective energy. Our participation in them. When they wobble or glitch, the matrix falls apart. Right now there are glitches everywhere. Stay on the solid parts and avoid the slopes.

  181. I just popped out about a half dozen tweets I’m so pissed off. Joy Reid is a fucking liar. AND Republicans are STUPID FUCKS!!!

    Jack Kingston goes on Hardball UNPREPARED when he says Clinton campaign started birther movement. He was almost right. Clinton supporters started the birther movement, not Trump. But dumbass Kingston gives Chris Matthews and Joy Reid an opening by being almost right. Joy Reid quotes from a politifact article that debunks that HRC started birther movement BUT Joy conveniently leaves out the FACT in the article that first birthers were pro-HRC. The article says it but Joy does not. She tells Kingston she can Google. I told the bitch I can Google too.

    Goddam my heads about to explode. The base of every debate should be to tell the truth as you know it. She blatantly lied.

    And Jack Kingston sat there like a dummy. Didn’t HE have a smartphone? Why couldn’t he look at the same article that Joy was reading and then bust her fat ass?

    You guys DESERVE Hillary because the folks you send on tv to represent you are goddam MORONS!!!!

  182. Rutherford, watch this. It’s long and slow moving so you might want to take it in chunks. But stick with it and watch it all. It will answer questions you’ve asked many times.

  183. Being ” high and mighty” with your vote gets you nothing except for a few good feelings and self congratulation. It won’t even buy you a cup of coffee.

  184. Rutherford you don’t seriously believe media outlets go out of their way to invite quality opposition?
    RT IS Russian propaganda. It isn’t the message it is the intent. Same can be said of PressTV which is an Iranian tool which Chomsky loves.
    Both cross the line frequently into lies. More so than MSM?

  185. Rutherford I want you to take a couple of deep breaths.
    People with agendas depend on one thing above all else.Ignorance.
    This a key reason academia is such a hot potato. It is what counter culture elements like Camp and Chomps depend on as well. It’s what Hitler spoke of in Mein Kampf and what every totalitarian state has made a point to check off early on their to-do lists.

  186. @ Rutherford FWIW I sympathize with your #twitter frustrations. If we never gave you an ulcer those folks certainly will. You’re yanking the PUMA tail and kitty don’t like it.

  187. Funny how Tebow was a douchebag for taking a knee but these guys are “brave”.
    I take solace that most of the HS boys will end their halcyon football days quite soon and have nothing but a dirty knee to show for it.

  188. Rutherford doesn’t recognize ignorance. He lives it.

    Sully is worth seeing – matinee prices. Hanks and Eckhart are great in it. Unlike Colin Kaepernick, these are true American heroes.

    The airplane scenes are intense.

  189. Rutherford, don’t blame me with your blanket statement. I don’t even watch those shows.

    That’s not the point. The game is played on tv and in the press. When “your team” sends out its surrogates, they should be prepared. Kingston went into that interview making an assertion he couldn’t back up and the worst part is the assertion was soooo close to the truth. Joy Reid outsmarted him with her lies and he looked like a fool.

    You should expect much better performance from your team if you don’t want to see the other team victorious.

  190. “@ Huck do you like Noam?”

    I wouldn’t say I like him. I probably don’t like him more than I do. But on the topic of the structural relationship between media and government I think he makes a lot of good points, some of which we are seeing today in real time.

  191. RT IS Russian propaganda. It isn’t the message it is the intent.

    I think there is a difference between true American leftists delighting the Russians with their message and saying those same leftists are Russian propagandists. MSNBC is saying Trump appeared on Russian TV. That’s a flat out lie. RT-America is based in Washington DC.

    Many on RT are willing to attack the left from the left and that scares the crap out of MSNBC.

  192. “You should expect much better performance from your team if you don’t want to see the other team victorious.”

    Says the Bernie supporter. I guess you deserve Hillary, too.

  193. “MSNBC is saying Trump appeared on Russian TV.”

    So what if he did? We have reset our relationship with Russia, remember? The most qualified presidential candidate in the history of America said so.

    And it’s not like Russia is some big geopolitical foe, or anything. The office of the President has post-election flexibility to work with our great friends now that the 1980s called to remind us that the Cold War is over. The smartest president in the history of America said so.

  194. “Now the NFL can go fuck off”

    I make it a personal point (to try) not to mix my sports, movies, or music with politics, even if the people in those industries do. Otherwise I wouldn’t be able to enjoy those things I enjoy.

  195. “I make it a personal point (to try) not to mix my sports, movies, or music with politics, even if the people in those industries do. Otherwise I wouldn’t be able to enjoy those things I enjoy.”

    Lol. Huck thinks I “enjoy” the Lions.

    But, I year you. I’m sure I will tune in.

  196. Thanks Huck. Obviously I don’t like him but I’ve commented&posted before he has gad some good points in the past.
    Ultimately I find him equally guilty of the crimes he prattles on about.

  197. @ Rutherford let me know when King,Schultz or Lee say something about Putin. Until then they’re simply obliging the master and living the illusion they’re not.
    Never ever ever think RT or RT America is actually questioning American Liberalism. Thats the punchline dude, they’re questioning nay attacking liberalism.

  198. Yeah… RT is bull shit. Sometimes propaganda is true, sometimes its not. I’d rather Trump go on some network in Moscow then, RT. Next Trump will be giving interviews to poolman’s favorite, Veteran’s Times.

  199. A. Not a Trump supporter.
    B. Don’t care about anything that comes out of or goes into Hillarys mouth.
    C. Pretty sure there is a sadly healthy percentage of Trump fans who are deplorable.
    D. Hillary is pretty deplorable and far too few folks seem to care about that so it’s a wash.

  200. King knows if no other reason than his checks. I’ve seen where his arrangements lean towards being more akin to a syndicated model. He is publicly unaware of why some journalists left the organization.

  201. B. Don’t care about anything that comes out of or goes into Hillarys mouth.

    LOL

    The reason I find it interesting is that it’s being compared to the Romney “47%” and the Obama “bible and guns” comments and I think the comparison fails on both counts. Both Romney and Obama could be characterized as condescending. But neither said their non-supporters were malicious or evil. Hillary, on the other hand, laid these folks to waste. She’s already doing damage control.

    What the coverage hasn’t captured is that this kind of comment will energize the Trump base and get fence sitters off the fence. I think it was a colossal error.

  202. The Chomsky video was good. I can find little to disagree with. Of course that was 1992 and some people sing a different tune today. I don’t fall in line with all the latest from Norm. I did have to chuckle remembering the flack hucking fypocrites gave me once for offering a 7 minute video showing our support saddam 😆

  203. Yeah between summer drought laziness,zip code and a knee injury I can’t but I probably should be shilling “I’m Deplorable ” t shirts. Perhaps even trademark infringe and use a knock off minion and have one that says “Deplorable Me”.

  204. Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” line is stray voltage. She WANTS the press to go after it…daily.

    If they are talking about that they aren’t talking about her Emails.

  205. I watched the Chomsky film. I can see how folks would not like him. He’s a bit self righteous. I also get the feeling he starts at the conclusion and works his way towards it as opposed to letting evidence take him where it will. In other words, he’s an ideologue which sorta disqualifies him as a true intellectual.

    His notion that the media serves its masters and not the public is exactly what sent me off the deep end last night.

    The other thing that interested me was the take on anarchy. I equate anarchy with chaos. The film presents it as the ultimate form of democracy.

    On a side note, the East Timor segment proved that Indonesia, supposedly one of the civilized Muslim nations are really a bunch of pricks.

  206. I was hoping you would have gotten more from it, mainly the fine tunings of Propaganda Model, and how it is necessary in a democracy where consent needs to be manufactured, as opposed to totalitarian states, where it can be coerced.

    Anyway, I appreciate you indulging me on the film.

  207. I found the concept of manufactured consent interesting but capable of being interpreted in more ways than Chomps presents and allegedly believes.
    In a democracy consent truly does need to be measured in some way and the degree to which the media gets involved to “manufacture” it is kind of a case of semantics. I think we cycle back to the ignorance factor. I think folks like Chomsky eagerly accept ignorance but allow it to be a defense for the ignorant when full truth comes to light.

  208. Of course democracy relies on convincing the people of shit. Am I missing something or do I have to go do reading homework.

  209. Alfie, you market one of those “Basket of Deplorable” shirts, and get me one in XL. 😆 I’ll be your first customer, and you can make an easy buck. Just make them 100% cotton.

    I read where of the Republicans voting for Trump (I guess that’s me now, though I’ll walk real slow to the voting booth), almost 2/3 are voting for Trump because they can’t stand Hillary Clinton. 😆 😆 😆

    Only 25% are voting for Donald Trump because of Donald Trump.

    Which made me think. Assuming Hillary Rotten Clinton really wins, just how effective do you honestly think she is going to be able to govern when at least 35% of Americans loathe her, she has called 25% of Americans a litany of pejorative ‘phobes,’, and this country is already coming real close to race wars?

    This is going to get so ugly, so quick, that my prediction of civil war is beginning to feel much closer than I ever thought possible. When that market tanks like a lead ball, perhaps some state (hopefully Texas) will work up the compunction to really secede.

    Then I’ll really know the words, “free at last,” “free at last…”

    It’s orgasmic, Rutherford. My right hand quivers at the keyboard. 😈

  210. Our extended family visited the Clay County Fair near the Minnesota border yesterday. It is about a three hour one way trip from our house and the family has been going since the 1960’s. Our in laws have a similar tradition and we were all together.

    Our son gave me a pedometer, and it showed we walked over two miles yesterday. Hillary fainted while standing around a 9/11 memorial service.

    I hope she survives long enough to suffer political defeat.

  211. mainly the fine tunings of Propaganda Model, and how it is necessary in a democracy where consent needs to be manufactured, as opposed to totalitarian states, where it can be coerced.

    Huck maybe I fatigued while watching it but I don’t think the case you state was made very well. I don’t think the contrast between manipulated information in a “democracy” and no need for manipulation in a totalitarian regime was made very well.

    The film had three major subplots: 1) A bio of sorts of Chomsky, 2) a lengthy discussion of the American media coverage of East Timor vs the coverage of Cambodia – and how OUR interests influence that coverage and 3) Chomsky’s intellectual (not moral) defense of the French Holocaust denier.

    I found the technique of breaking up three or four interviews across the film disjointed – it detracted from getting the point across.

    Perhaps if they had left an hour on the cutting room floor, the part you wanted me to glean from it would have been more obvious.

  212. I got rushed to the hospital in an ambulance because of heat. 105 heat index and hose water while breaking concrete with a sledge hamer. I was paralyzed for a day too. Maybe Hillary was working a concrete job in Sri Lanka right before?

  213. I probably owe a few apologies. The book, Manufacturing Consent, articulated the theory a lot better than the film did. I had read and watched both a few years ago and had forgotten that fact until rewatching it after I posted the link.

    The film does take up too much time with the Chomsky bio and with the case studies. After reviewing a wiki article on the Propaganda Model, I see the film left out a lot of meat about filters, and other important factors, which was really what I wanted you (Rutherford) to see.

    So anyway, my apologies to anyone who essentially wasted their time. I probably should have just posted a link to the wiki article on the theory and called it a day.

  214. As a rule don’t care about the silly Miss,Mrs etc contests but Missouri entry Erin O’Flaherty is kind of ugly. She is also a lesbian. WTF is that about?

  215. So anyway, my apologies to anyone who essentially wasted their time.

    Nah, I didn’t consider it a waste of time. I’m a documentary junkie and I don’t watch nearly as many as I’d like. Film had flaws but was not a total waste. I’ll check out the wiki.

  216. Alfie – LOL Ugly girl wins beauty pageant. 😀😀

    You need to go deeper. No matter how they dress this shit up, it’s an affront to feminism and a relic of a bygone age. Miss America, Universe, USA, etc should be nuked ASAP.

    With that said, I have no prob with Miss America being a lesbo. Few pleasures match the sight of two beautiful lesbos doing the nasty. 😈

  217. Ok time to throw a bomb into the bar just for the hell of it.

    Observation: Dems always qualify their offensive shit. Repubs are just offensive. Case in point:

    The full context of Obama’s bitter clinger quote reveals an attempt at outreach not put-down. The idea was if you can understand their bitterness, you can get their vote through understanding.

    Clinton prefaced her hateful remark with “this is a gross generalization” (they don’t show that in the sound bite).

    Romney on the other hand gave no qualifiers. He simply said Obama voters saw themselves as victims and wanted handouts. Fagetaboutem!! Not “most Obama voters”. Not “a few Obama voters”. Nope, the full 47%. And don’t even try to persuade them.

    Perhaps it’s a distinction without a difference but Repubs seem to have no problem being blatantly offensive while Dems always qualify their shit.

  218. Democrats are cowards and dishonest. They’re the fuckers who apologize by saying shit like “I’m sorry you were offended…” The smugness of a leftist technocrat douchebag is one of my triggers.
    In your examples Obama presented himself well and above those who spoke of. He smugly proclaimed the betters on this planet should look into “solving” the problems,the hang-ups of others,of lessers. Romney on the other recognized a reality. Perhaps not a reality he is personally happy about but one just the same. Some walls are impenetrable and for a GOPer be they white, black or brown piercing one of the dependency class’ strongest held beliefs is one of them.

    Ultimately Republicans don’t mind saying what they truly mean whether it is brilliant or outlandish. The Dem try to pretty up,cloud or shape shift their bullhit.

  219. “I still say Parkinson’s is foolishness but at this point I’m not placing any bets on her health.”

    No, you called out people who were very suspicious that the lying cunt was hiding how ill she is as loony conspiracy theorists. You also said this was a big mistake and a distraction that will ultimately help Clinton. Far from it. You are a wrong turd. As usual.

  220. Word is Democrats are holding an emergency meeting tonight because Hillary blew phlegm all over the glass ceiling.

    I might have added that last part.

  221. Pneumonia? Aw shucks. She won’t be able to conduct press conferences or debates. She needs rest, fluids, and morons to vote for her even if she were dead.

  222. You guys are a sharp group, I mean that.

    @NFL funny how your scumgag knee takers hate #NationalAnthem but are cool being OWNED by rich white guys. #irony alert
    I teeeted that because today really drove it home. They have zero credibility. Come on Bruins

  223. Ultimately Republicans don’t mind saying what they truly mean whether it is brilliant or outlandish. The Dem try to pretty up,cloud or shape shift their bullhit.

    Basically what I said. I agree.

  224. So now we’re being told Old Lady Clinton has pneumonia.

    Putting aside the humor, are we, the voters, owed CURRENT health assessments of our candidates?

    I ask this because HRC was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday. Should that diagnosis been made public immediately?

    My wife and I discussed the no-win HRC found herself in. Knowing she was sick, she skips the 9/11 service and speculation runs amok. She goes sick, falters and then … speculation runs amok. She took a gamble that she could make it through the ceremony and lost.

  225. No, you called out people who were very suspicious that the lying cunt was hiding how ill she is as loony conspiracy theorists.

    Sorry dude, you use Alex Jones as your main source and sure as shit I will call you out.

    There is a world of difference between Poolman-like analysis of videos and the chick obviously clearly stumbling out of an engagement.

    I don’t ignore real evidence. I ignore wackjobs.

  226. We saw her bop out from Chelsea’s apartment feeling great — like every other time.

    Why not mention pneumonia?

    But R what if it’s more serious?

    Just keep talking. . .

    Imagine if she and the dems were honest about things. It would all be so understandable.

  227. I just picked two names out of a hat for shits and giggles and found:

    Merkel became Chancellor at age 52
    Thatcher became Prime Minister at age 54

    Maybe Hill is too damn old? Then again, women have a longer life expectancy than men. 🤔

  228. “Sorry dude, you use Alex Jones as your main source and sure as shit I will call you out.”

    Wrong. My source was my own eyes and the fact, like Obama, it’s always a lie. ALWAYS.

    Like Tigre says, just today, she walks out of the apartment “feeling great”. Lie.

    She looks like shit. Tons of vids of her hacking up a lung, needing help walking. And she’s a fucking liar. So I go opposite what Team Lie is saying.

  229. We told you she was sick. The load of manure they are peddling that she coughed because of allergies stinks. I have had pneumonia and it begins with congestion before the sickness.

    Like Rabbit, I didn’t need conspiracy theories or commentators to tell me Hillary was sick. Pneumonia doesn’t usually attack for no reason. Her resistance is likely compromised.

    Hillary might answer the 3AM phone call, but she may be talking to her imaginary friend instead of a real person.

    The line from the book about the woman who swallowed a fly comes to mind. “Perhaps she’ll die.” That probably won’t happen, but what if it did?

  230. I know you have also commented on Hillary’s health, Rutherford. My “I told you so” is directed mainly at Lurker and others hiding in the shadows of this blog.

  231. The sickest I’ve ever been was pneumonia. 103+, green, nearly hallucinating. Walked right into a wall looking for the bathroom in my apartment. My law school roommate lifted me from a pool of sweat and took me to the hospital. Thank God he did. It took me 2 months to get back on track.

  232. The bigger question is why wasn’t she taken to a hospital?

    I don’t think pneumonia or parkinson’s or scabies are contagious like that.

  233. These are some of the folks Hillary says are deplorable. Most of the wedding party belongs to the same Bible study group. She will not be on Shindler’s list when he and his wife vote.

  234. El Tigre, I agree, most, but not all pneumonia is not contagious. I think her general condition is weak enough to let pneumonia gain a foot hold.

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