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Bernie, Watch Your Back – DWS and the DNC

This ain’t rocket science folks. All you need is first grade math and the ability to tell time. The Republican National Committee (RNC) and its leader Reince Priebus have announced a Republican presidential debate schedule of nine debates, the first of which was broadcast to some 20 million viewers last Thursday night. 

In contrast, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, head of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) has announced a schedule of six debates to begin in October. 

Why so few debates and why the late start? I believe it is clear as day that the DNC and its chairwoman, DWS want to protect Hillary Clinton from scrutiny. They would prefer a coronation but since Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley, Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee have announced their candidacies, that simply won’t happen. Sanders, in particular, has the pro-Clinton bunch worried as he trails her by only seven points in New Hampshire. 

The DNC wants Clinton challenged as little as possible. It’s shameful. It’s Debbie’s job to present fellow Democrats with a diversity of views so the best candidate can emerge. To do otherwise makes a mockery of the process. 

I’m calling on liberal organizations across the spectrum of left ideologies to launch their own debates and invite the candidates. If Debbie Wasserman Schultz is too corrupt to do her job, someone else has to. 

What do you think? The bar is open. 

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373 thoughts on “Bernie, Watch Your Back – DWS and the DNC

  1. The GOP is just as determined to unload Trump. The pig pile are stating in various ways that his response to Kelly shows he lacks presidential temperment (well, duh). But I disagree. The fact that he took the bait proves he’s too easily played. He should have sent her a truckload of roses (or equally over the top) and said something flirty. I think that, that rather than his usual crude irreverence, would’ve been more disarming.

    DWS might as well move in with the Clintons.

  2. For once you’ve said something with which I completely agree.

    But could Trump really have been so stupid as to reference Megyn’s period? A part of me wants to think he didn’t really mean that. It goes beyond vulgar and nasty. It’s just plain juvenile and stupid.

    As for DWS, clearly in the tank and obnoxiously so.

  3. Now that we’re in total agreement on everything, I’ve got a question for Mr. Nothing Burger re: HRC server and FBI probe.

    Bona fide inquiry or predetermined clearing for the Clinton machine?

    I say the latter.

    I also believe the level corruption and tolerance of it on the left unrivaled. The Clintons behave as they do because of it.

    (Oh I know “both sides are corrupt” — the level tolerance of anuse of power is what I’m talking about and IMO they are not the same, e.g Lerner, HRC v Patreas)

  4. I won’t get into party comparatives. I do disagree that the FBI probe will go no where.

    Remember, when the WH was asked if HRC broke protocol they basically said yes. She is not universally liked in DC.

    In fact, related to a potential Biden announcement, there was talk that folks close to Obama are angry with him for showing a nod towards her “eventual” candidacy. They remind him how she treated him like crap in 2008. The Clinton/Obama camps still don’t like each other despite the staged kumbaya of 2008.

    Clinton may implode. How the Dems handle that will be interesting to watch.

  5. As you know, I already wrote about the black lives matter foolishness.

    The ladies should have been arrested. Ignorant fools. There should be zero minutes of silence in honor of Michael Brown, a flat out thug.

  6. Different. I said it was statutory. Perry didn’t mishandle Dept. of State/classified info.

    It’s conviction not indictment in any event.

    And the Perry thing is a liberal politically motivated fucking joke that should bother those on the left — but of course it doesn’t Again, y’all don’t care. The means are always justified.

  7. Even with the glasses on he refers to “Ronald Raven” and unintentionally endorses Trump and Fiorina.

    Poor guy can’t get out of his own way. I honestly don’t know why he’s making another go at this.

  8. Rutherford, when even you are calling Clinton crooked, the writing is on the wall. I think Hillary Clinton is going to get a second surprise. I don’t think she’s got the party magic that Obama does, nor the favorability. I am not sure Sanders will make it but he’ll make a run of it in the East and Iowa. I don’t see Webb making it because he’s not radical enough. O’Malley I don’t know much about and Lincoln Chaffee stands about as much chance as Rick Perry. I still see Elizabeth Warren as a safety net and matron of honor.

    As to Trump, I think the GOP is making a grave mistake. I noticed only Cruz has figured something out. The longer The Donald stays in the game, the better it is for the rest of the candidates. And the reason is, Trump pushed far enough, would likely go 3rd Party just to spite the Party. May not make any difference anyway, because this country is too far gone and brain dead. 2012 proved that.

    But I would guess an a lot of those Ron Paul guys from 2012 are the same ones supporting Trump now. The kind like Poolman that disdain your status quo candidate and like someone with an edge.

    Trump is not electable. I think he’s got a very high bottom (20%) and a very low top (35%) with Republicans. If the party were smart, they would wait until just a few candidates remain and it becomes obvious that Trump won’t win the nomination. But where I think Democrats can’t manage a country, I also believe Republicans can’t manage a campaign.

    The establishment will screw this up yet.

  9. I mowed my backyard today. The heat index was 112 while I was doing it. Probably good I didn’t look at a gauge or watch the weather. I don’t think that was terribly smart. 🙄 My mind says I’m still 25. My legs tell me I’m definitely 55.

  10. Dig deeper. There’s no “smell.” It is purely political and initiated by your lib system abusers.

    Why do I sometimes feel like I’m being interrogated? If I read that comment in a German accent it makes me wonder:

    Have you ever worked for the Gestapo? 😬

  11. R, Sanders isn’t even a Democrat. DWS doesn’t owe him a thing. Her job is to use the resources of her party to retain the White House and gain back Congress. She is in the position to favor HRC by the will of the members of her own party that voted her into that position. The DNC Chair is, by nature, aligned with the establishment portion of the party. HRC is the establishment candidate. Having said that, I wouldn’t mind seeing more debates, perhaps even a couple cross-pollination efforts with say the top 3 Dems, the top 3 Repubs and an independent thrown in for good measure. Might actually produce some ideas and thought as opposed to the rhetorical beatdown that gets us nowhere. And that, of course, is exactly why it will never happen.

  12. I’m here to find out what Sofia Jannok is up to. – ET

    🙂 🙂 🙂

    I know that’s not going on your tombstone, but can you just lie to me for a while and say that it is. Please. 🙂

  13. Thor, Sanders caucuses with the Dems but I get your point. That still leaves three card carrying Dems getting short shrift by not being able to challenge HRC in an open forum.

    It stinks to high heaven and my gripe against Debbie still stands.

  14. For you James . . .

    “The Longships, the famed war ships of the Vikings. The Irish Annals tell us that the first Viking raid in Ireland was at a place called Rechru (Rathlin Island) in 795. By 841 Dublin (Duibh-Linn or black pool) was one of the first Viking settlements or Longphorts in Ireland.” Enya, liner notes.

  15. It stinks to high heaven and my gripe against Debbie still stands. – R

    As it should. And I’m sure it will get even shittier.

    The dems have no national party rule requiring that a presidential nominee be a registered Dem, just that they have a record of views and actions that reasonably align with the party. As you correctly pointed out, Bernie caucuses with the Dems so this requirement is easily met. However, each state has its own rules for ballot qualifications. I can easily see the Clintons pressuring state Dem leaders to keep Sanders off the ballot in certain key states. This is how they operate.

  16. Thanks Thor. I like Enya. Her music can put one to sleep in a good way.

    As you know, my maternal side of the family is one of the oldest continuously identifiable names in Europe dating back to the eighth century in Denmark. Some of them were Viking enforces of oaths.

    My father’s side of the family is also traced to Denmark. They settled in Normandy and moved to England with William the Conqueror.

    One of my ancestors worked for the government and frequently traveled to Europe. He and relatives pieced together our family history with biographies of ancestors dating from about 1640 to 1910. They worked for over thirty years.

    The information was published in a large book. Whenever I meet a distant cousin I ask about the book, Most of them still have copies of “the book.”

  17. What is Sofia Jannok up to? Our lawyer is Swedish and keeps contact with relatives. One of his four daughters lived with the Swedish Sami for a summer as part of a college project. She attended one of Sofia’s concerts and talked to her. Our lawyer’s daughter said Sofia is sometimes called a woman of steel who works very hard to preserve her language and culture.

    Sofia doesn’t like Obama, and she doesn’t like the Swedish government.

    She and her family own a reindeer herd. She has a talk show, and she is financing a foundation to help indigenous people around the world preserve their cultures.

    Sofia is part of a generational movement which is attempting to preserve its culture. Our lawyer’s daughter thinks the outcome is still in doubt. A popular insult for the Sami is still mongoloid mongrel.

    I agree, Thor, if the Clintons feel threatened, they will act.

    I read that some black lives matter people protested at a Sanders speech. Someone protested that he was just another white liberal. The Democrats may pay for their political use of race and gender.

  18. There’s a male that listens to Enya? Seriously. You have read the liner? You actively listen to the shit.

    Thor, what’s on your “sad playlist?”

  19. There’s more to it than “Perry got indicted for firing someone who deserved to be fired,” Sgt. Schultz.

  20. Tex, I don’t think the Trump supporters are the old Ron Paul people. I think it’s an entirely different group of people. He has (had?) support from angry blue collar whites and people sick of PC lies.

    Ron Paul was a conglomerate of campus pot smokers, conspiracy theorists, hipsters and a handful of true blue libertarians.

    Trump is the antithesis to the Obama administration telling us Bergdahl was a war hero and the Trayvon Martin could be his son. It’s hard to fathom the blatent and insulting lies that Obama has looked at the nation in the eyes with. Some of these lies were intended to hold up only for a weekend or so. That is how cheap we are to him. As a result there are some very angry people out there. And it has nothing to with the “negro”. Everything to do with the liar who delights in destroying American at the borders.

  21. @ Rutherford 6 vs 9 isn’t that big of a difference. What you should really be mad about is that contrary to the democrats tired babbling about money the DNC knows this election is won or lost with ads,not debates.
    I’d also say that dreams of Lincoln Douglass are whacked. The parties do not exist for the people. Never have and never will.

  22. Lol
    “Thank you Seattle for being on of the most progressive”…..chaos enuses by ignorant forces created by so called Progressives in the name of expediency. Get some blow back and feel the burn.

  23. Well I find it sweet irony that the “peoples” candidate is experiencing what it means to allow all the people to participate.
    It is also sweet to know that an attempt to do this at a Clinton event would be squashed,presuming the BLM hacks believe HRC has failed blacks somehow.
    Is BLM the ultimate black bloc movement pool? The final nail in reversing the post racial country back to a time of severe division?
    Whatever….progressives are whites. Always have been always will be. Sorry R but your train is so decoupled and shoddy it ain’t never leaving the station.

  24. And they backed down and gave her the stage. Priceless. If that doesn’t sum things up, I don’t know what does.

    What a milk toast pussy the Bern is, too. He tries to shake their hands after being verbally abused instead of just leaving or having security bounce them on their heads.

    These ignorant black tantrum throwers…..love seeing the left squirm. So afraid of them.

  25. https://youtu.be/BYE4CVhVkhw People have all sorts of musical tastes, the same as they different food.

    I like this song because its unintended message describes Hillary and the Democratic party and their pawns, especially blacks. Imagine the anger of disenchanted voters when they realize their love interest is “one big lie.” with “sign of guilt” “Then I started to realize…”

    I hope Blacklivesmatter badger their erstwhile masters into oblivion,

  26. Yulia Maarushevska who narrated the “I am a Ukrainian” video represents the same attitude as Trump supporters, Tea party members, Bernie Sanders campaigners, and even Black Lives matter. Republicans wish Trump would fade away, and Clintines hope the same for Bernie Sanders. What if they don’t fade away?

  27. “And they backed down and gave her the stage. Priceless. If that doesn’t sum things up, I don’t know what does.”

    No shit. Said it all.

  28. Tex, I don’t think the Trump supporters are the old Ron Paul people. I think it’s an entirely different group of people. He has (had?) support from angry blue collar whites and people sick of PC lies.

    Think so? You may be right. I based that on an on-line Drudge poll stacked with Trump backers right after the debate (that’s what Paulbots used to do) and the two people (besides Poolman who I really don’t know) that were Paul backers, now Trump backers that I occasionally socialize. It seemed a smooth transition for them.

    It’s obvious as the sun why Trump popular with a 1/3 of America. People are so tired of mealy-mouthed assholes feathering their own beds while mouthing platitudes to us. Dims are dangerous, inept, fascist, and stupid. Republicans are feckless and milquetoast. And people are sick of the craven, biased media too. Listen, I kind of like Megyn Kelly. But she was stupid acting and a huge distraction the other night. Some of those questions were nothing but gotcha questions. Doesn’t matter a damn to running the country. Trump’s a cad. We all knew that. Rosie is a pig. We get that too. So what? How’s that relevant to jihad and $20 trillion dollar deficits? Carly Fiorina is a big girl. So is my wife. They don’t become wilting flowers around cads. Megyn Kelly shouldn’t either.

    Trump has struck a nerve with straight talk, no matter how crude. Hell, I don’t even know if Trump believes it. But he says it. I’d say the same thing. That’s why the McCain comment didn’t hurt Trump a bit. McCain’s been riding the “hero routine” for 40 years and is otherwise, virtually worthless and what few accomplishments he has, suck. I agree with these people and you about McCain. Kick that idiot bastard to the curb and take his idiot kid and with him. But give me another ‘R’ to replace him. 🙂

    I know you and I disagree big time on the religious side, but I will tell you this in all honesty. This is about as good a field as the Republicans can muster. If they can’t win this time, then frankly the country is over with anyway. Because Barack Obama’s ideas don’t work. Get the fuckin’ government out of our lives, minimize it to the nth degree, and arm the military to the teeth, putting some of them on the South border. You can’t be a sovereign country with thousands are running back and forth daily across the border. That’s national suicide.

    At least these governors and Cruz realize you can’t run a trillion dollar deficit forever. Maybe that’s a start.

  29. Aren’t Dimocratic Congressman pathetic? That demonstrates how pitiful this party has become. Talk about being screwed by your own political correctness. Bernie Sanders is a joke, a geeb and a weakling. The whole party is. The racists now run it.

    Those demonstrators should be dragged to the edge of stage by their braids and Tazed for all to see, then have the living shit beat out of them. I mean clubbed like a baby seal with the message next time they join Michael Brown. The chances of that happening are zero.

    And you know why it doesn’t happen? Because these punks are black. Because the Democratic Party has to have a complete black bloc to win. These imbeciles from the white Lefty crowd are terrified of these animals. They are more concerned with groveling to fascists and thugs than they are running the country.

  30. I’m beyond disappointed at the fallout surrounding this moment with Meghan Kelly and Donald Trump. At first I thought Trump was dis-invited to some dumb event by Democrats or the media (same thing). Turns out the dumb Republicans are deciding to act like the dumb Democrats.

    As soon as I heard about the “blood” comment I winced. Ooh. He really is a Dem operative if he took a poke at Meghan about that. Did he really? Preferring to get to my own truth rather than be led by the nose, I went first to Trump’s actual words and then to his explanation.

    My verdict on it is I don’t care. I don’t think he meant to go there but rather to stop himself before his mouth caught up to his brain. I think he realized the problem with characterizing Meghan’s attitude as that she was out for blood, which was all he was trying to say, and “whatevered” himself to cut the line short when he realized in an instant where he was treading. Maybe not, and if not, I still don’t care. We can’t be afraid of saying things like “pregnant pause” because gasp THAT’S SEXIST. I can’t take 8 more years of THAT’S FILL-IN-THE-BLANK-IST.

    On the other hand if the event coordinators had not dis-invited Trump then perhaps the DWS bus would be driving around painting the whole party with blood because they let Trump say whatever the fuck he wants. Not sure DWS needs a reason to live but that is precisely what she lives for.

    Still, I’m disappointed the event coordinators are freaking out over Trump’s use of the word “blood” in describing an ill-advised swipe at him. Trump should have expected it but he’s not used to people not doing as they are told by him. His handling of this has revealed his unsuitability for the office of the presidency, in case there are still any doubts about that, but not for the reasons everyone is uptight about.

    Un-inviting Trump also indicates the GOP is inept at wrangling this chaos. Not a good sign. Wrangling chaos is what leaders do.

    I do hope Trump realizes that like Sarah Palin he has no right to run for president, or VP in her case. Who do they think they are anyway – Democrats?

    I’m disappointed in Kelly too. I guess she never heard the adage – “ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.” If in their preparations they all thought it was a great question – which they must have since they opened with it – she could have simply asked Trump,” Are you a misogynist?” It’s still a loaded question but if they really felt there was some insight on Trump to be gained from such a question, fine. I would prefer they leave that nonsense to MSNBC but I’ll bet the guys were afraid to tell Meghan that it was a dumb line of attack and really no good could come from it. smile

    Meghan also did a pretty good impression of Candy when she argued with Trump when he tried to Biden himself out of the problem she had just handed him.

    I’m mildly disappointed in Trump for not answering the stupid question with some intelligence and humility. I’m not sure he has any (humility), but he might have been able to fake it if he didn’t crack up while doing it.

    Wait patiently for Meghan to finish her lil’ speech. Realize her question was focused on whether or not his apparent attitude – however occasional – about females as objects (whether it’s fat pig or “just a tiger in the sack”) rendered him unpresidential. And then lean forward and say slowly and clearly, “Bill Clinton.” When the roar dies down look at the camera and say, “Rosie, that was below the belt and I wish I’d never said it.” And do not crack a smile.

    Might have come out of that all right. Now? Who is to say but this is bad all around. Bad for Trump, for women, for the GOP. Bad all around for everyone in fact except the ones who should be in the woodshed for the next 20 years – the Democrats.

    “Hell’s bells they even shot the dog.”

  31. Agreed. Good one, Muffy. I give you about 80% agreement though.

    “Un-inviting Trump also indicates the GOP is inept at wrangling this chaos. Not a good sign. Wrangling chaos is what leaders do.”

    Indeed.

    I think Trump needs another dimension or two to pull off the routine though. He needs to work the humor angle and some more depth for the it to work. Some self-deprecation to balance the cartoonish hubris. You know, like the rug in Big Lebowski.

    He’s no Reagan nor expected to be one but he needs more skillz to stick around.

    The tweets were idiotic — especially since they were written. He could make the claim that it was poorly worded and be forgiven but the fucking guy typed it out. For a guy whose appeal is no filter, he needs a filter. I don’t he think he’s capable of standing back. He relies too much on instinct and those instincts are too base.

    Of course, we’re just judging the show not the substance. Still better than Thor’s taste in halcionic coffee shop music.

    I am disappointed in Kelly. To her, the whole thing was about her. I was irritated from the outset. She still looks damn good, but I’m going to the bar with the fellas.

    I am convinced Trump will fade away. In some was it’s too bad because he opens the doors to say non-PC shit the others can’t or won’t.

  32. <blockquote<“Hell’s bells they even shot the dog.”

    🙂 But I think once you quit hearing “sir” and “ma’am,” the rest is soon to foller. Well said,

  33. “People have all sorts of musical tastes, the same as they different food.”

    I see you’re enjoying that bowl of Cream of Wheat. 😆

  34. I think you’re right, Tigre. High bottom, low ceiling.

    I’ve only heard two Republicans since the debate treat the Trump Zoo the way it should be treated. Rubio and Cruz. I haven’t heard all of them. This shameless Don Quixote routine tells me we’ve got a bunch of Republican candidates with soft bottoms wearing lace panties with hairless buns. Cruz and Rubio pretty much waved it off as a none event, said “let’s be respectful and knock the stuff of.”

    The rest of them, best I can tell, have falling to groveling and pandering for the fickle female vote. The women I hang, like the Muffy type, give it back in spades to cads.

    Fiorina is different – she’s entitled to give the Donald shit. If some woman is going to be President, she needs steel in her balls and a brain in her head. I think Fiorina has got that.

    Hillary flounders for Bill and her balls are for Huma. Hillary Clinton is the ultimate ninny. Apparently, Bernie the Greece is too. What a bunch of candy asses.

  35. I thought Jeb handled himself pretty well the other night. It may be he really is the smartest of the Bush Clan. Too little, too late in my book. Bush is another that I think will fade. I actually think Dr. Ben will hang longer than most of them because he’s smart, likable, has the best life story, and he makes a great point. Is it more important to be superficially knowledgeable of many issues? Or is it more important to have the capacity to learn?

    I grant the latter. And he is a better debater than I ever thought he would be. Truly an impressive man.

  36. Jackie Mason says “the debates are now a comedy contest.”

    News flash: They have been for years.

    Reagan is the undisputed king of all times.

    God, I miss him.

  37. Reagan was the best of my lifetime by about a million fold. Nobody is remotely close. And smart enough to surround himself with very capable people too. It’s like God gave the world a lull in the 80s with Reagan, Thatcher, Walesa, John Paul, and Billy Graham as political and religious spokespeople before hell was unleashed.

    That was a wonderful decade to work and be alive. Even the Bush I 3 years was a great carry over.

    And to think six words started the downfall.

    “Read my lips, no new taxes.” While the 90s was a great decade to work, the rot was already sinking in.

  38. I truly enjoyed their performance but I’m positive those women are hired guns, funded by Soros or some other Dem backer, and given a script to follow. Positive.

    I expect they will soon be “discovered” and invited on the real View show and will do whatever they can to stir the bottom up. Trump is good for Democrats.

    I recall Rutherford and one other here telling me rather forcefully and in Rutherford’s case a little sneeringly that the Dems would be firmly uninterested in the black voting bloc this time around. Nothing could be further from the truth. Hillary’s coronation is dependent on it.

  39. “These imbeciles from the white Lefty crowd are terrified of these animals.”

    These imbeciles from the white Lefty crowd own the folks that they sent to Sander’s event.

    “Imbeciles? No. Evil, they are.” -yoda

  40. Oh, absolutely these “ladies” will be voting for Trump. 😉 I don’t suspect they are Trump plants, though. These are two are dying to be on “The View” and Megyn Kelly is the perfect bait. Separates them from the other lowest caste of lemmings walking the unrighteous path of free rent and gas.

    But I do think liberal elite are scared to death of what they’ve created, $harpton not being fired (hired for that matter) only the latest indicator of how many eggshells now lay under the feet of what white Leftists have created in 50 years of pandering and platitude they have no intent of fulfilling. Dims are the big tent of the dysfunctional. Sooner or later it was a given, one dysfunction was going to come into contact and compete with another. The monster has one foot out of the cage and white libs know it. Sanders just experienced it. This is the politics of Jurassic Park and the raptors aren’t being kept in the gates.

    Of course we know Hillary is going to get 93% of the Black vote. The question is, how many of these ‘chicks’ actually turn out to vote?

    That’s why all this baloney about reaching out is a waste of time. Blacks hate whites. Blacks especially hate rich, white, conservative men who they see as their oppressors. These black folk are members of the cult. They’re not going to change their minds no matter how much they bleed under Dim policies. I would tell Black America you think you’ve empowered yourself with your bloc vote? You’ve done nothing of the sort. You’ve marginalized yourselves for generations: one group takes you for granted, panders and forgets you for another two years; the other has given up on you being remotely fair, reasonable or objective.

  41. This popped into my head after watching that video. Picture this –

    Sunday matinee show
    The Color Purple (the musical)
    at the Cadillac Palace Theatre
    in Chicago.

    The show was really good but the crowd made the experience extraordinary. All the ladies in their finest, post-church, hats and flowing colorful fabrics. The men gliding around on gleaming polished shoes in a variety of colors and sharp dress hats. Everyone taking their seats in anticipation before the start of the show (not always the case, unfortunately). And when the show was funny the crowd was even funnier. When the show was sad the crowd sniffled along. One guy honked his nose so loud the whole place relaxed and twittered joyfully as the tension of the moment was eased. Many an audible comment tested the actors’ bona fides, and the when words became songs the crowd let it all go.

  42. I have a question for either Alfie or Huck.

    There has been a lot of talk that the Iran deal should include anytime/anywhere inspections. The 24 day notice has folks upset. Kerry says that no nonproliferation agreement in history has ever had a TRUE anytime anywhere inspection clause and that in fact such a clause is impossible.

    Is Kerry full of shit?

  43. I can easily see the Clintons pressuring state Dem leaders to keep Sanders off the ballot in certain key states. This is how they operate.

    You’re absolutely right.

  44. I was going to say that these Black Lives Matter dolts would never interrupt a Hillary Clinton rally and then I remembered HRC doesn’t hold rallies. 😐

  45. Someone protested that he was just another white liberal. The Democrats may pay for their political use of race and gender.

    James, here’s the irony. They wake up to this now but choose to protest a candidate who does not focus on identity politics. His economic message runs across race and gender and these ignorant fools don’t see it.

    I also have to wonder if there isn’t a morsel of anti-semiticism to their antics.

  46. “There’s more to it than “Perry got indicted for firing someone who deserved to be fired,” Sgt. Schultz.” – ET

    Oh please do educate me. You saying Perry’s indictment has teeth?

  47. Well not to defend Kerry but inspections are often a major sticking point as it pertains to an invasion of sovereignty. Here’s a little tie bit from back in 1991:

    As Iraq continues to deny international inspectors access to all its suspected nuclear sites, President Bush rightly condemns this blatant violation of the United Nations cease-fire. Yet if his Administration has its way in negotiations to ban chemical arms, Iraq will have the right to refuse similar inspections of its suspected chemical-weapons sites. The Administration’s stance is worse than inconsistent. It’s fatally flawed.

    The U.S. negotiating position has drawn fire from many of the 40 nations represented at the chemical-arms talks because it would undermine verification of the treaty. Unless the U.S. changes its stand soon, it could split Western negotiators.

    When Mr. Bush, as Vice President, first presented the U.S. negotiating position in Geneva in 1984, he called for challenge inspections of suspected sites “anytime, anywhere” on short notice. But after the Soviets accepted mandatory challenge inspections in 1987, the U.S. began backing away. Some U.S. military and intelligence agencies fear that the open invitation to inspect might be used to pry into their own sensitive sites that are unrelated to chemical weapons. The U.S. now wants to give nations the right to refuse inspections, which could undermine verification.

    Britain has proposed techniques, called “managed access,” that allow challenge inspections while protecting secrets. Britain would give inspectors access to sites but shroud certain objects from view, and would allow inspectors to visit only part of a site or a percentage of buildings on the site. These techniques would deter states from using the sites to produce chemical arms. By embracing the British position, Mr. Bush could expedite the treaty to rid the world of chemical arms.

    It took six more years to ratify the treaty and inspections are pre-arranged. As of today the USA is still to complete its stockpile destruction. To be fair the inspections notice minimums are 30 hours which is a hell of a lot better than 24 days.

  48. “Oh please do educate me. You saying Perry’s indictment has teeth?”

    N. The opposite, as I said you ninny.

    Google’s free. I ain’t doing it for you this time.

  49. ““milquetoast”…. That’s how you spell that? Well, shit.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspar_Milquetoast

    It is Webster’s play on words; a “milk-toast” being a pussy, a sissy, a henpecked man. From the wiki article:

    “The character’s name is a deliberate misspelling of the name of a bland and fairly inoffensive food, milk toast. Milk toast, light and easy to digest, is an appropriate food for someone with a weak or “nervous” stomach.”

  50. Rabbit I’m also pissed the ignorant assholes weren’t physically ejected from the rally. But the media image of white male security forcibly removing black women would have hurt Bernie. Sadly it ended the way it had to.

  51. I know you and I disagree big time on the religious side,

    Tex how do you and Rabbit differ big time on religion? Rabbit admits he struggles with his faith but I don’t call that a big time disagreement. Was that a typo on your part? It doesn’t even fit with the sentences that come before it or after it.

  52. I know you and I disagree big time on the religious side,

    Chit. It wasn’t a typo. It was a brain fart. I get so used to looking at the avatars anymore, I mistook Rabbit for Parker. Mea culpa.

  53. I’m beyond disappointed at the fallout surrounding this moment with Meghan Kelly and Donald Trump. …

    I agree with about 95% of Muffy’s comment.

    Let’s remember this is the same man who said Mexicans bring their problems “with us” instead of what he meant, “to us”. That sound bite from the announcement speech was looped endlessly and no one bothered to notice Trump’s preposition problem.

    What I’m saying is, the man ain’t particularly articulate and it is actually plausible that he had no intention of referencing menstruation. For starters, the phrase is “she had blood in her eyes”. He botched that and said “she had blood coming out of her eyes”. It’s not the right figure of speech.

    Face the Nation framed this very nicely. The GOP is in a no-win situation. They want The Donald gone but they don’t want to alienate the 20% who like him. If he runs third party (if they don’t respect him, LOL) then in a close election he may tip the scales to HRC.

    Donald has mucked up the works big time.

  54. And another thing. Only ONE question on policy was leveled at Trump. Every other question was a personal attack. He is right that he was treated unfairly.

    I laughed out loud when Trump called Erick Erickson “a loser” and said he didn’t want to go to the event in the first place.

    Someone in the media a few weeks ago likened Trump to the guy who gets rejected at the bar by a girl and says “I never wanted to take her home in the first place, too fat.” So true!!! 😄

  55. Does anyone like Jeb!?

    Tigre what’s getting lost in all the Trump mania is how badly Jeb and Walker underperformed. Jeb stumbled over his words. Walker was a fucking wind-up doll. Boring as hell, canned lines, no passion. His zing at Hillary’s server was his ONLY good moment.

    I know it bothers you when my opinions align with the lib media but I think they’ve got it right that Thursday’s stars were Rubio and Fiorina.

  56. Tex I am sorry dude, Ben Carson talks like he just downed a full bottle of barbiturates. Al Hunt said the energy in the room dropped every time he spoke.

    Look, I loved his comment about brain vs skin. I loved his summation. But brother has to turn up the energy level. Sheeeeeut!

  57. I recall Rutherford and one other here telling me rather forcefully and in Rutherford’s case a little sneeringly that the Dems would be firmly uninterested in the black voting bloc this time around.

    Either you recall incorrectly or you misunderstood me. Blacks are Dem’s bread and butter.

    What I AM saying is that blacks are fools to reject Bernie’s message. I’m also coming to the conclusion that Dem’s want the black vote without really earning it.

  58. Ahhh Tigre, always ready to argue even when we agree.

    I’m not Googling shit. Some Texas big wig, I think a prosecutor, got arrested for DWI and made quite a spectacle of herself. Perry fired her ass as unfit to carry out her duties. I think she was a Dem and Perry was accused of a politically based firing of the woman.

    Again he fired someone who deserved to be fired and ironically the indictment itself is politically motivated.

    Now, I may be missing a detail or two but that’s the long and short of it.

    Again what key thing am I missing that prompts your disagreeing with my agreeing with you?

  59. I agree Rutherford, the black lives matter disruption of Sander’s speech was ironic. Traces of anti semetism wouldn’t surprise me either.

    Rubio and Fiornina were the most impressive, as you wrote.

    I agree, Trump could give us Hillary.

    I draw the line with cream of wheat. My parents forced me to eat the stuff for breakfast. It had lumps and even now, the thought turns my stomach.

    Our Korean daughter in law serves us suchi when we visit California, and it takes strong will power to stomach those dead fish. Ketchup helps. Thank God she doesn’t serve us cream of wheat.

  60. Tex I am sorry dude, Ben Carson talks like he just downed a full bottle of barbiturates. Al Hunt said the energy in the room dropped every time he spoke.

    Al Hunt? Was Chris Hayes unavailable? Al Hunt is an irrelevant hack and a moron. Has been for 50 years. This dip shit said Reagan was too light to run the country, and the following month Reagan won 49 of 50 states. Al Hunt is the Joe Biden of journalism.

    How accurate and gauged would my comments about Obama be if all I did was come in here and say Sean Hannity said,,,,?

    This is what you do here every day. Rutherford, you need to expand your horizons and get out more. All you read is what you’re comfortable with. You don’t think every person on this board knows you have a woody for Carson because he’s Black and Republican?

    There were more than two winners last week. Carson was definitely one of them. So was Cruz. And Rubio. And Carly. And wonder of wonders, those were all about my favorites going in to this along with Kasich. Finally, there is somebody for Tex to pick from worth picking from. Too many Republicans are too much like you.

    Look, I loved his comment about brain vs skin. I loved his summation. But brother has to turn up the energy level. Sheeeeeut!

    Which man do you think is smarter and more talented? Dr. Ben Carson or Barack Obama? 🙂 That’s the problem with so many of you libs, Rutherford. You included. And I mean this. You are perpetual adolescents, thrilled with bright lights and loud music and soundbites and dog whistles and candy. There is no depth or substance, no nuance to your shtick unless you’ve got days to think about it.

    And you wonder why I call you a class reactionary?

  61. I was going to tell Bernie how racist this city is, filled with its progressives, but you did it for me,’ accusing the audience of ‘white supremacist liberalism.’” ~ Marissa Johnson, #BlackLiesMatter 😈

    Who knew about Thor that he was a closet white supremacist? What you Lefties going to do that the dawgs out? LOL

  62. LOL Tex you live in a fantasy land.

    First, I cited Al Hunt because I wasn’t in the room, he was. Second I’ve always found Carson’s delivery sleepy and strange. I might be happy with my brain surgeon talking like that, but a potus candidate?

    It ain’t fair, old man, but a dude who might be the best potus ever can’t get to the oval without SELLING himself. Your hero Ronnie knew that in spades.

  63. I just read this cerebral bore you speak, one Dr. Ben Carson, picked up more Facebook fans in one evening that Jeb Bush has accumulated in the entire campaign. In fact, I think that was a Facebook record for one day for “friends”, but don’t quote me on that. Apparently, somebody liked him, Rutherford.

    And you’re accusing me of living in fantasy land? 🙂

    Tell me scholar. Does #BlackLivesMatter subscribe that “white supremacists” are anyone who does not volunteer to be a victim of black thuggery? Would that make Bernie a white supremacist? And you think the Donald poses problems? I got a fantasy bridge to sell you, chief.

  64. The tweets were idiotic — especially since they were written. He could make the claim that it was poorly worded and be forgiven but the fucking guy typed it out.

    I thought these celebs have others do their tweeting? Can they be hacked? I don’t think any of this plays out randomly. Donald is someone’s tool and like muffy said, I the blm people were put up to that by hell’eerie or her hype chick dws. Maybe they wanted to see some squirm and outrage. Amp up the entertainment factor.

    We’ve grown accustomed to all their programming.

    This is prime time. We’ve been primed for quite some time. These campaigns are intently scripted events with every detail and prop considered, yet must come off as grassrootsey instead of an expensively produced and directed movie.

  65. Well I will give you this Tex. Carson is resonating with people and he sure as hell isn’t the fool Herman Cain was.

    Hey, maybe I’m wrong this time around. Maybe folks will pass over flash for substance.

    Since I lean towards Poolman’s assessment of every potus being a figurehead, it may truly come down to the advisors and the cabinet. If President Carson can surround himself with good people, he could be successful.

  66. “But brother has to turn up the energy level.”

    Dr Carson challenges your interference-resisting abilities. That’s not really his shortcoming but yours.

    To your point, most people watch too much teevee, resulting in a shrinking attention span and a decline in the ability to screen out distractions and focus on task. More to your point, hyper works on camera.

    “Hey, maybe I’m wrong this time around. Maybe folks will pass over flash for substance.”

    Dr Carson isn’t winning. He never stood a chance. I admire him for not letting that stop him, and not letting anyone tell him that can’t or shouldn’t run. He’ll lose graciously but he doesn’t let other people decide for him what he can and can’t do. I like that.

  67. “Again what key thing am I missing that prompts your disagreeing with my agreeing with you?”

    The source of the indictment, the history, and the timing. I told you it was a political hit job, not just suspect or smelly or fishy or whatever the fuck you said (since you’re too damned lazy to Google for yourself, I am not bothering with it either).

    There’s not comparisons with HRC of any kind.

  68. It’s funny what everyone graded the candidates on. It’s like American Idol auditions.

    I didn’t think Rubio a standout. I like what Cruz says but the look and the delivery make me yak.

    I find Fiorina entertaining and substantively “there.”

    Maybe Mika and Rutherford were right about Huntsman. We need a candidate with the mannerisms of another spineless liberal pussy like turn-over-the-mic Sanders to lead the charge. 😆

  69. “Either you recall incorrectly or you misunderstood me. Blacks are Dem’s bread and butter.”

    I’ve already rehashed this with you once since the exchange. The last time was when I complained about Soros funding BLM for the benefit of the 2016 candidate and you said it was racial paranoia and just the fact that I analyzed the election along racial lines tells you that my head is in the wrong place.

    You do think that the Dems take the black vote for granted and don’t think they have to work for it. That doesn’t negate the probability that they are still working for it. In fact I say they are working their hind ends off for it. Operation Interrupt Bernie has happened before in case we didn’t discuss it here. Just last month.

    You and James told me Hispanics would be the focus. That also doesn’t negate the efforts to stoke the racial tensions between black and white for the benefit of the crown.

    Bernie will not win against a Republican. If the D-machine thought he could they would be sending BLM paid agitators to Hillary’s events.

    You assured me that “This election will be about class with HRC doing her best Warren impersonation.” Again, this can be true while everything that I’ve said about the black voting bloc is also true.

    I would not let my party be the boss of me like that and I’m not just talking about the black voting bloc. No Dem is free to choose anymore. The das thing is, most Dems are fine with that.

  70. Here. Everywhere. Radio, Teevee, Internet. Almost no talk of issues. Shit, the questions were no good for that either. But know I’m certainly not saying I’m above it.

  71. Hispanics are more a future resource for Democrats than they are now, though they are important. Democrats are cultivating them, and they face a greater voting disparity than with blacks.Thus, they have to work harder with Hispanics. I still don’t think Democrats can win without the blacks. However a few blacks resent the Democrats and the illegal immigration issue caries weight with them.

    Now that Trump has roiled the water, I think one of the main issues will be race, especially illegal immigration. The same issue is evolving in Europe.

    American Idol. Maybe Simon Cowl can return to judge.

  72. There’s not comparisons with HRC of any kind.

    If your ultimate point is Perry should not have been indicted and Hillary should, you’ll get no further argument from me. Please continue to disagree with my agreeing with you. 😊

  73. Huntsman wasn’t spineless. He had manners and civility in a field sorely lacking it. Thanks to Donald, EVERYONE this time appears comparatively civil, except perhaps Rand Paul who really surprised me with the constantly pissed off attitude.

  74. Carson helps by being in the lineup.

    Sleepiness aside, I fully agree. His appearance on MTP today was better than his debate performance. And I find his discussion of race (which is forced on him) to be refreshing and somewhat in line with my own views.

  75. I thought Rand Paul was the one BIG disappointment the other night. For whatever reason (and he is a smart guy), he doesn’t do much for me. Perhaps it’s because he is the isolationist – and under the GROSSLY INCOMPETENT Dear Leader Obama, we see how that works.

    Could be wrong, but I think Rand will be toast the next go around when Fiorina steps on the stage like she should have been to begin with. I don’t see any of the others separated themselves from the pack (except Fiorina) after one debate. IMO.

  76. The last time was when I complained about Soros funding BLM for the benefit of the 2016 candidate and you said it was racial paranoia and just the fact that I analyzed the election along racial lines tells you that my head is in the wrong place.

    I distinctly remember accusing you of racial paranoia but I don’t recall it relating to BLM.

    At first blush your assertion BLM is a pro-Hillary escapade to bring down her Dem competitors, does sound a bit Poolmanish but I trust HRC so little that I think your theory has legs.

    It may be the fault of the press, but I see so little about Soros (vs let’s say the Koch brothers) that I don’t take him as a serious factor.

  77. Huntsman wasn’t spineless.

    Huntsman was a Dim with a title of Republican. That’s why you liked him. That immediately discards the candidate – anybody you like isn’t worth a chit. By definition, that’s spineless. I’m about to throw Mitch McConnell in the same boat.

  78. That immediately discards the candidate – anybody you like isn’t worth a chit.

    That’s gonna narrow down the field a lot for you. I “like” Kasich, Rubio, Bush (to a lesser extent), and Christie. I’m begrudgingly starting to root for Carly on principle because she takes it to HRC like nobody else will (but if she wins the nomination against HRC I will write in a third candidate). And I’m more and more favorably disposed toward Carson.

  79. You need to rule out Bush and Rubio because they carry the stain of being overtly Christian.

    Carly is a woman, so you can definitely rule her out – Republican women are just like Palin – plus Carly also carries the stain of Christianity and the failure of HP.

    I suppose Kasich you could stomach because he’s for queer marriage or something, but he’s a fiscal conservative so that means he is a vulture capitalist and corporate shill. Persona non grata in the Dim Party.

    And Carson? House nigga and part-time brain surgeon. Any black man that dare call himself Republican obviously is a lackey catering to white privilege with an inferiority complex. NOT BLACK ENOUGH, probably a closet Clarence Thomas.

    Now, let’s get back to Bernie the Greece and get America on the right track. 😉

    #BLACKLIESMATTER

  80. That’s clever. Was that an original?

    😆 No. But I wish it was. Shirley you’re not serious.

    Probably heard about the same place and time as #PANTSUPDON’TLOOT

  81. Well, in other light-hearted news, it appears Fat Grannies is making a small comeback with a whole new group of harridans, butchers, shrews, and other assorted mindless dimwits and manhaters – including a couple of eunuchs who turned in their set to Granny.

    I’ll reserve a special comment for those betas. You can tell I’m bored as hell tonight. 😈 And Auntie Jean is still there dribbling on Granny’s porch. Almost makes me feel guilty to run her back to the memory center.

    Couldn’t work up the energy tonight, but before the week is out I think I’ll construct a few radio active comments to drive this new group of nags back to the netherworld. Looks like I need to get a new IP address and warm up the paddle to light some cellulite asses on fire, all over again. Poolman, you can rat me out again. 🙂

    Rutherford needs a break from the barrage of criticism and to recover from Whatshername fatigue and Bernie’s tongue lashing from the grunts.

  82. #PANTSUPDON’TLOOT

    LOL Another classic!

    I was talking to my best friend today wishing him Happy Birthday. Friend is hard for me to define. Sometimes I feel like I have none when I make the definition very restrictive. But I’ve known this guy 24 years and we’ve laughed and cried together so he comes as close to friend as I can imagine – almost family. Now that my parents are deceased he’s also my only close black friend (not counting my daughter).

    I was talking to him today about how fed up I am with BLM. I could hear the fighting factions in his head as we talked. The inescapable truth of racism in this country along with the inescapable truth of how poorly so many blacks deal with it.

    You’ve been jaded by too many bad images Tex. There are blacks of conscience trying to reconcile the need to recognize discrimination while at the same time not let it become all-consuming. You can see the struggle in my very words on this blog. One minute I go all Malcolm X and I want to see blacks burn down white neighborhoods. The next minute I’m mortified that we are commemorating Michael Brown today, a young criminal and bully elevated to civil rights hero.

    I think you grossly underestimate how hard it is for blacks to keep their head straight.

  83. Poolman, you can rat me out again. 🙂

    lol. It was like wack-a-mole. 😀 Virtual reincarnation. Only Noah had more personalities. Him I dubbed hydra. That is one place I have not been in a while. The last time was possibly when James ventured over and soured their grapes then posted note here. I am not curious enough to venture there now. You go right ahead, though. I know you enjoy stirring them up. 🙂 I don’t know how many friends are still posting or checking in there.

    Tex, you won’t agree with this rant so much (or at all), but damn, this one fits a lot of my current view. I’d put him up against that Prager fella. I like Max.

    Max Igan Transcending Tyranny

  84. There’s a male that listens to Enya? Seriously. You have read the liner? – ET
    🙂
    The liner notes were under the video on YouTube. No, I don’t have her on 8-track. 🙂

    You are welcome James. I have a playlist I utilize, along with headphones, when working in noisy conditions. It’s all instrumentals or sung in languages I don’t speak. Enya is on there along with many others including, but not limited to: Alison Krauss, Candy Dulfer, Eivor Palsdottir (thanks again James), Screamin Cheetah Wheelies, E.L.P., the London Philharmonic, the Corrs, Jeff Victor, Pancho Sanchez, Michael Oldfield, the Marshall Tucker Band and many more.

    That should give ET fodder for days.

  85. I think you grossly underestimate how hard it is for blacks to keep their head straight.

    Really? I think that’s a cop out. HUMANITY has a hard time keeping their head straight. That’s why you should follow your heart. 😛 Too many voices and too few mentors.

    Once again it comes down to honoring the traditional family. That will not change, no matter how many alternatives are deemed socially acceptable. The truth is the black family was destroyed in our young society and that carnage carries into the next generation until one stands up and decides to stop it. We have to recognize the pattern and decide to break it. It’s like anything else unhealthy. It isn’t easy. We always go for easy and easy isn’t good for us.

    Responsibility is the harder choice, but it is also the one that rewards. Each of us are accountable for our action and restraint. We hold the power to change ourselves, to affect the moment. We’re equal in ability to choose how we interface the world, what we take in, what we put out. We are all special, but that shouldn’t get us special treatment. 🙂

  86. As promised, a quick anecdote about Enya — or really about her group Clannad. Back in the late 90’s or so, there was an Irish Tourist Bureau commercial with a smiling young lass and this hypnotic music in the background. After much research, I discovered that the music was by an Irish folk group named Clannad of which Enya was once a member. Sadly they recorded the song only for that commercial and it was never commercially released. BUT a VERY similar tune was released by them called “Theme from Harry’s Game” and it came close enough to the tourism commercial tune to satisfy me. We ended up using it as part of the soundtrack we played at our wedding.

  87. No Yanni or John Tesh. I( like Kenny G in this video

    .” I got some crazy text from Uncle Kenny that he was going to start playing the sax again. We can’t let that happen.”

    I also like Cory Feldman, Debbie Gibson and Hanson in this video.

  88. We are about to leave for Omaha again. Two people have mentioned our grand daughter’s distinctive pretty blue eyes. They weren’t normal. Something was different, but not in a bad way,, , but they couldn’t .e discern why. My wife and I saw a picture taken at a certain angle, and it became clear. Her eyes have subtle Asian features. She has expressed some Finish-Sami genes.

  89. You’ve been jaded by too many bad images Tex. There are blacks of conscience trying to reconcile the need to recognize discrimination while at the same time not let it become all-consuming.

    Jaded, yes. Of that, I am sure. Bombarded with images of horrid black behavior like last night.

    Not aware there are millions of blacks trying to reconcile history with the present and the failure of the aggregate black community? No. You’re not the only black I’ve worked with and/or befriended, who I have conversed & is educated. I see the difficulty, even if I don’t live the difficulty. I can say the same of “moderate” Muslims. There is some truth many Muslims would as soon be left alone and feel trapped between two worlds. Same with blacks like you.

    I would be more understanding of folks like you if you were more fair with blacks who’ve crossed over and left the Democratic Party. Those who don’t consistently seek excuse for what ails Black America.

    But the one thing I meet much too seldom is a black face that cannot view the world without perpetually reverting to the black prism to view it. Blacks are much consumed with having black skin and letting that solely define them. It is they who most have a jaded view of America.

  90. I didn’t watch the debates either. I figure there will be plenty of rehash. I don’t need added entertainment nor do I feel they will matter in the end. They didn’t make any difference the last time, They are a series of distractions for the public to feed on. Looks like they are accomplishing their purpose.

  91. “I didn’t watch the debates either. I figure there will be plenty of rehash. I don’t need added entertainment nor do I feel they will matter in the end. They didn’t make any difference the last time, They are a series of distractions for the public to feed on. Looks like they are accomplishing their purpose.”

    The same could be said of our visits here.

    So what? It was damn entertaining. Rutherford pretending they hold some influence over his vote is might damned amusing too.

  92. I am surprised how many dimwits there are in my own party and how unserious this country has become. We are ripe for the pickin’ at the worst possible time.

    I was initially tickled that some self-promoter and megalomaniac started addressing issues that need to be addressed and raising the hackles of the American hatin’ loons in the presentation. But to really believe Trump is a serious candidate after the first debate demonstrates the Republican Party has millions of Bernie Sanders’ supporters of their own.

    Who would we call First Lady? Ivana or trophy babe #33 on right arm? Besides, Trump reminds me of Michael Bloomberg with far less self-control. Don’t think The Donald would not be laying down a few rules about the size of your drink before it was through.

    I realize there is a hell of a lot of anger across this country with the Republican leadership, me included, as I have grown disgusted with Mitch McConnell and John Boehner – two D.C. dinner politicians to say the least. Both are useless and McConnell a liar.

    But a Trump nomination would guarantee a President Hillary. Trump would not win 10% of women, many who would just stay home.

    I thought many Ron Paul supporters were nuts in 2012. But at least Ron Paul was a serious man with serious intent.

  93. By far…and these weren’t softball questions either.

    I enjoyed the debate but I wouldn’t say the questions were hardball. The only candidate deliberately made to feel uncomfortable was Trump.

  94. The same could be said of our visits here.

    Debatable. Mostly entertainment and generally less scripted. Very often not politically correct. None of us hold the exact same ideology we did 5 years ago. With your frequency of comments topping the rest, Tigre, I suppose you are the most qualified to assess that volume’s value.

  95. I’d like to know what questions were not softball. I did not watch, but generally they don’t venture very deep, rather tend to skirt the real important issues. I’m not into platitudes and pixie dust. The Kelly/Trump conflict was apparently the highlight and takeaway.

  96. “With your frequency of comments topping the rest, Tigre, I suppose you are the most qualified to assess that volume’s value.”

    I am.

    None.

  97. Holy fucking shit. I’m watching MoJo and I think I’m seeing replays of riots from last year and it turns out the stuff went down last night.

    WTF???? They can’t even “honor” their “hero” without acting like assholes.

  98. They can’t even “honor” their “hero” without acting like assholes.

    That’s because the animals aren’t there to honor. They’re there to threaten, draw attention to themselves, be angry, and steal.

  99. I remember when I used to think snopes was some type of authority. 😆 I wonder how many people take it seriously anymore. The comments were fun, but this was my favorite part:

    About the Author: Kim LaCapria is a New York-based content manager and longtime snopes.com message board participant. Although she was investigated and found to be “probably false” by snopes.com in early 2002, Kim later began writing for the site due to an executive order unilaterally passed by President Obama during a secret, late-night session (without the approval of Congress). Click like and share if you think this is an egregious example of legislative overreach.

    Like here, there is plenty of bullshit to wade through…

    http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/23/comet-september-2015/

  100. Rutherford pretending they hold some influence over his vote is might damned amusing too.

    Hey it’s good for me to know who I am voting against when I inevitably vote for Hillary. 😈

  101. Tex it sounds as though you’re really worried Trump might get the nomination.

    Don’t lose sleep. Sadly, Pools might be right – this is all a charade leading up to the inevitable Bush v Clinton. 😟 I can still dream otherwise.

  102. None of us hold the exact same ideology we did 5 years ago.

    I think that’s charitable of you. Tigre, Rabbit, Tex and Gorilla haven’t budged in all the time they’ve been here.

  103. “I think that’s charitable of you. Tigre, Rabbit, Tex and Gorilla haven’t budged in all the time they’ve been here.”

    I have. Already told you where.

    You talk about ideological changes, before you go back to them.

  104. Proof:
    “Tigre, Tesh. 😊”

    😂😂😂😂😂

    I only have one of his albums. I think it’s Live at Red Rocks. It ain’t Beethoven or McCartney but it’s tasty ear candy.

  105. You talk about ideological changes, before you go back to them.

    Me no comprendo, friend-o.

    You had an ideological change? Let me guess. You became MORE conservative. 😄

  106. I know I have grown further apart from aggressive socialism.

    What on Earth would have moved anyone the other way?

    Tigre, I know.

  107. I know I have grown further apart from aggressive socialism.

    Muffy I left you off my list of intransigents quite deliberately. I don’t know if you have become more conservative but certainly much more strident and outspoken from when you arrived.

    In fact, I can go back to early posts and you’re damn near unrecognizable. Of everyone here you have probably “changed” the most.

  108. “At first blush your assertion BLM is a pro-Hillary escapade to bring down her Dem competitors, does sound a bit Poolmanish but I trust HRC so little that I think your theory has legs.”

    Uh…thanks.

    Pro-Hillary only because without a Barack Obama to out-historical her she’s the next obvious one.

    #BlackLivesMatter = #SorosMoneyMatters

    BLM is under a large umbrella, but under it nonetheless.

    As an aside, poolishnes is not relevant to my interests so I would rather not know when you think that’s what you smell cooking over here.

    Regarding the Dems working the black vote – you and James go on without me.

  109. Pretty sure someone took Rutherfords “man card” away before but it is totally revoked now. Tesh and ear candy. What the £>%€ is that?!

  110. “I don’t know if you have become more conservative but certainly much more strident and outspoken from when you arrived.”

    Definitely more conservative.

    You think me strident but I stopped letting other people think they were right all the time.

    “In fact, I can go back to early posts and you’re damn near unrecognizable. Of everyone here you have probably “changed” the most.”

    We’re talking about ideology?

  111. Media opinion and sniping at personalities doesn’t impress me so until a candidate who allegedly wants the launch codes for the U.S. ICBMs is wiling to take stands on issues without stickingg their finger in the air or changing their minds I don’t care and a reassert I’m missing nothing.

  112. Tex it sounds as though you’re really worried Trump might get the nomination.

    Nah, I’m not concerned about that. Like I said, Trump has maxed. Donald is Donald – he can’t change his appeal or his stripes. What I am concerned with is the people who actually do think Trump a serious candidate get teed off and don’t vote – a repeat of 2012, only more so. Or worse, Trump’s ego won’t allow him to be beat, he runs a 3rd party nomination and actually hands the nomination to Fat Granny. And it won’t even be close.

    I really don’t think Bush is going to get there, Rutherford. I really don’t. The Bush days of dynasty are through. Too much water under the bridge. I’m pretty sure about that. I think Walker and Kasich actually have a better chance than Bush. My choices Cruz, Rubio or Fiorina I actually don’t know. They all may have a low ceiling too, appealing only to social conservatives like me. It could wind up a very fractured party once again. Too many are looking for the perfect candidate and they don’t exist. If it actually came down to a vote between say Trump vs. Webb, I actually might vote Webb – and I don’t like him. None of the other ‘D’ candidates are plausible. I always vote out of duty.

    P.S. – I discovered the other day something I didn’t know. I was under the assumption in 2012, it was Conservatives that didn’t turn out in mass – which never made a lick of sense to me with the advent of who Romney was running against. Come to find out, it was actually the Independent/Libertarian vote that was light.

  113. Your loss, Alfie.

    Perhaps some modal Tesh while you page through the latest edition of The Economist instead?

    I loved the shit!

  114. “P.S. – I discovered the other day something I didn’t know. I was under the assumption in 2012, it was Conservatives that didn’t turn out in mass – which never made a lick of sense to me with the advent of who Romney was running against. Come to find out, it was actually the Independent/Libertarian vote that was light.”

    It’s the same thing all over again – and it’s happening AGAIN.

    Somebody explain.

  115. We’re talking about ideology?

    I’m referring more to tone in your case. As I said, I don’t know if you’ve become more conservative (you say you have) but certainly more assertive.

    I stopped letting other people think they were right all the time.

    Good for you, really.

  116. until a candidate who allegedly wants the launch codes for the U.S. ICBMs is wiling to take stands on issues without stickingg their finger in the air or changing their minds I don’t care and a reassert I’m missing nothing.

    I hate saying this but Ted Cruz may be your man, Alfie. I’m not sure he waits to see which way the wind blows.

  117. It’s the same thing all over again – and it’s happening AGAIN.
    Somebody explain.

    I think it’s pretty intuitive. Independents and Libertarians are harder to please and have no party loyalty. If they see no one “fit” they stay home.

  118. Intransigents? That’s such a discounted reality.

    I’d prefer you elaborate on your one-liner.

    I’ll go first. Tigre claims some changes and I’ll take him at his word. I think he’s shown that on his better days he makes evidence based conclusions. That’s why my weak-evidence mouthing off pisses him off.

    As for the others, not an iota of change apparent.

    Even Pfesser openly confessed to viewing abortion exceptions differently after I made a case against the rape/incest exception.

    Let’s not assume that changing ones ideology is positive per se. I was just responding to a Poolman assertion I found false.

  119. “I’d prefer you elaborate on your one-liner.”

    Your characterization does not reflect 5 years of commentary by those 4 guys. They’re among the most principled, that’s true. They more so than many others know their own minds. That last one of the most admirable qualities about each of them.

    But I don’t believe that you can tell us with a reasonable measure of accuracy what their views and various positions even ARE, much less how stubbornly they’ve clung to them.

    I also don’t get the “uncompromising” vibe from them any more than anyone else here either, and in some cases less.

  120. “I have. Already told you where.”

    I remember.

    “You talk about ideological changes, before you go back to them.”

    I agree. The issue is freshly abstracted and the effect is that there is no change.

  121. “Let’s not assume that changing ones ideology is positive per se. I was just responding to a Poolman assertion I found false.”

    Not to worry. I don’t assume that.

  122. I’ve been listening to this when I mow the lawn. Gets me contemplative.

    The other day, it was sunny. My wife was gardening. My two kids also mowing the lawn with toy mowers. Head phones on. Been off of work for 6 weeks. Still a month and a half to go.

    I must have asked God 5 times how I could be so lucky. And thanked him just as much.

    I shouldn’t have ended up with such a good life. Better men haven’t.

  123. @R – I’m sorry. You’re no longer staunchly pro-choice. So the degree to which you are pro-choice has changed.

    I’m not sure how much weight to give the adjectives when it comes to abortion. I don’t know what you mean by no longer “staunchly pro-choice.” There’s no such thing as “a little pregnant,” but “early pregnancy” has meaning.

    With all due respect to them, I’m not interested in hearing more about your feelings. Not unless you’re willing to watch the PP videos. Frankly everyone who is even “a little” pro-choice should watch them. Kirsten Powers – pro-life Democrat – says the same thing, unequivocally.

    You would not dismiss video evidence reportedly showing a white cop shooting an unarmed compliant black youth if the video were taken by a BLM activist, would you?

    So, no change in the policy which favors choice and the outer limits of timeframes – fair?

  124. Just a month and a half ago, I was driving down I70 in St. Louis – the same highway the BLM shut down, never mind half of the BLM were white losers.

    I got to be honest with you guys and gal. Had that been me, I might have been going to prison. Might just have backed up and hit them at about 70mph, never touching the breaks.

  125. “I shouldn’t have ended up with such a good life.”

    Humbling, isn’t it.

    I loved that music. That’s not the first time I’ve wondered where and how rabbit get this stuff.

  126. I shouldn’t have ended up with such a good life. Better men haven’t. – DR

    Is it the Texas killing Rabbitt? The children? I remember how openly you grieved after Sandy Hook. Someone with a heart as dark as this Conley bastard, essentially un-human, has the power to spread grief much farther than his own reach. You are surely a much better man than you give yourself credit for. Don’t give guilt a second thought. The toughest, most important job you have is raising your children. I am confident you are excelling at it.

  127. ET, this is also a Viking song. Does the barrister approve? 🙂

    James, we have a big one brewing tonight. We’ll have a handful of new fires in the morning. This has been a long, smoke-filled summer.

  128. Look, Rabbit has got to be one of the biggest enigmas on this board. If we look back at 5 or 6 years of comments, no one has been as vicious a prick towards me when angry. He may even out-do Tex.

    BUT

    This same guy has a heart as big as Michigan itself. I know first hand of deeds in his real life that prove he’s more action than talk. That he cares about people and wants to make a real difference. Dude can’t have a good time at the beach for fear of some kid drowning. Reacted to Sandy Hook much the same way I did.

    This is why I try to just brush it off when he gets real nasty cos frankly, I’d trust him to watch my kid if we were neighbors. And that’s saying something.

  129. “I think Tigre (and Muffy) are being grossly unfair.”

    I meant it when I said I was sorry. That said, upon further reflection it occurred to me that you’re also being grossly unfair, and in Tigre’s case you really have no right to complain. I trust that having it pointed out to you is fair play.

    Incidentally, unless you’re limiting the “intransigent” characterization to the last 5 years in accordance with your disagreement with pools – Rabbit’s POV of abortion changed too. Drastically as I recall. It predates the blog I believe, but it does fly in the face of the “intransigent” label. Much more so than your own “evolution” as described in these threads. I hope you find that fair too.

    No sarcasm.

  130. “Look, Rabbit has got to be one of the biggest enigmas on this board….”

    Need clarification. What is this in response to?

  131. First Muffy, you’re right that I shouldn’t have dismissed the PP video out of hand and I’ve seen clips on TV. Consider it once burnt, twice shy. A PP video was a setup several years ago and it made me skeptical this time around.

    I don’t know what you mean by no longer “staunchly pro-choice.” There’s no such thing as “a little pregnant,” but “early pregnancy” has meaning.

    That’s a word game and you know it. Pregnant is indeed binary. But pregnancy is typically a nine month time frame and it’s perfectly appropriate to refer to early pregnancy or early term and late term. You know this and to argue otherwise makes you sound silly.

    Years ago I had a very simple bottom line. A woman’s body is her own. None of your business. Case closed. I had not, up to that point, been exposed to women who talked cavalierly about pregnancy and viewed abortion as identical to contraception. Once I understood that too great a number of women felt that way, it affected my view. So I no longer feel it’s the woman’s body, none of your business. In that way I’m no longer staunchly pro-choice.

  132. Ha. Shucks, guys. Thanks for joining in on my mildly enjoyable bit of melancholy.

    Re: guilt. If I ever lost that I don’t know who I’d be. It’s my main motivator.

    My stance on abortion did, in fact, do a 180.

    In hindsight, maybe I never had much of a stance. Is compartmentalization, ignorance and nihilism even a stance?

  133. I’ve always considered Rabbit pro-life. He’s just become much more emotional about it since he’s been here. I think having kids you consider a blessing can do that to you. He’s had 2 kids during his time here.

  134. What is this in response to?

    In response to Rabbit not feeling worthy of his good fortune. I kinda thought that was obvious but maybe it ended up in a weird spot in the comment flow.

  135. My stance on abortion did, in fact, do a 180.
    In hindsight, maybe I never had much of a stance. Is compartmentalization, ignorance and nihilism even a stance?

    That surprises me. I always considered you pro-life.

  136. Is compartmentalization, ignorance and nihilism even a stance?

    In my case, I think I was very guilty of compartmentalism, and a bit ignorant. I don’t think nihilism really played into it.

    Someone on TEEVEE said the other day that abortion is one of the toughest issues of our time. I agree.

  137. I wasn’t exactly vehemently pro-choice. Just didn’t give a shit and, in the back of my mind, always saw abortion as an emergency option.

  138. @R – I’m not interested in playing games. You misunderstood ” ‘early pregnancy’ has meaning.” I meant it has meaning and is perfectly understandable, whereas another adjective like “a little” pregnant is not so clearly understood.

    Abortion is to pregnant what staunch is to “a little” for me.

    Sigh I know all about your journey. I get that it got complicated for you. I’m asking what changed. That’s all.

  139. But more then anything it was simply learning about the stages of pregnancy while my wife was going through fertility issues.

    I’m sure someone could say I became pro-life in a self serving way, only when I put great value on a baby in the womb becuase we couldn’t seem to have one. There is some truth to that.

    But I knew nothing about pregnancies. Hell…I was sexually active before I knew how women pee! That is how much of a dumb shit I was. I had always thought women pee through their cl*toris.

  140. Well I knew about the changes you went through regarding abortion rabbit but I could have lived the rest of my life not knowing about THAT evolution.

  141. Thor you need to get your BLM folks in line. They fucked with my Bernie. – R

    They’re mine now? That has to be the most epic case of re-gifting I have ever experienced. 🙂

    But I must say, if Bernie can’t even handle the Black Friday Wal-Mart crowd, how’s he going to handle the bear wrestler on the other side of the Moskva River?

  142. Abortion is the most difficult issue of our time? No, it’s not. At least not for anybody of sound mind and doesn’t have a heart of stone.

    And that is the saddest part of the entire sordid debate, because the whole debate has been based on lies, was legalized on lies. No issue has had more false narratives, no more lies as justification for approval. Did we really need 4D sonograms to know what it was that we destroying?

    I was debating this issue 35 years ago on a college campus with monstrous imbeciles and murderers like Fat Granny types then. My position hasn’t changed a bit. And these bimbos think I don’t understand them? I’ve made a case study of them for virtually my entire adult life. They are wicked and they are amoral – they are as close to being without conscience as anybody living on this earth and so are the men who support them or conduct them. Some change – most do not. Those that do change are the most outspoken of all. Because they realize the horror better than the rest of us. They’ve seen it – or more tragically, they have experienced it first hand.

    So many people have been willingly misled for convenience and selfishness. Most don’t want to take responsibility for their actions. That is the new American way. We want everything cheap and easy and clean and separate with no consequences. It’s only become more difficult for those who lied and deceived, or wanted to pretend or not notice. Now that science has made it so abundantly clear what women carry in their womb days after conception, it isn’t so easy to lie or deceive anymore. That’s the issue being debated now.

    What did people think PP was doing behind closed doors? Fetal tissue and organ harvesting? And I’m supposed to be aghast and surprised? Shocked at the callousness? Why? Don’t people ever contemplate how utterly twisted somebody has to be to even consider participation in the destruction of THE MOST INNOCENT? Whether they sell them or burn them in the incinerator, the insidiousness of the act is the same. Had this been unborn puppies 42 years ago, we would never have approved. But unborn babies? A choice. And we want to pretend we are not a nation of depraved reprobates?

    You know what this who debate tells me? We haven’t “evolved” at all. We’re still as bankrupt and arrogant as we were yesterday. We’re just having a more difficult time justifying the brutality and callousness now.

    Used to put my money where my mouth was. Now I have come full circle. This nation’s lack of moral clarity disgusts me anymore. The pride of thinking “we know when life starts” disgusts me. I’m out. I know judgement is coming and I won’t be spared. It’s already happening. Most are just too blind and deaf to notice.

  143. But I must say, if Bernie can’t even handle the Black Friday Wal-Mart crowd, how’s he going to handle the bear wrestler on the other side of the Moskva River?

    Tell you Leftists something. Don’t marginalize these BLM types. You are doing so at your own personal risk. Far be it from me to defend a profoundly confused, limp dick like Bernie Sanders, but what you witnessed last week on that stage is nothing but the first steps to fascism. Actions like these are exactly what precipitated two world wars, Communist Russia and China, Castro and Cuba, Hugo and Venezuela.

    Don’t let the fact that a bunch of feckless white stoners in the thousands sat there befuddled about what to do make you laugh and lose focus of what these fascist bullies, whether white or black, are being allowed to get away with. You give them an inch and they are going to take a mile. And sooner or later it will adversely affect all of us. That is, unless you’re comfortable with mob rule and banana republics.

    Y’all better start bucking up and busting heads soon, or you will regret it. That’s no rant. That is reality.

  144. Hey Rutherford? Speaking of the Bernie Sander’s Scandinavian Model for America. See this graph?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-10/for-norway-oil-at-50-is-worse-than-the-global-financial-crisis#media-1

    See a problem? 😈 Not to make light of a simple fact, but these Bernie Sanders models of efficiency you Leftists striving for don’t work when the cash cow quits giving milk. Like I told you a few months ago, you’re being hoodwinked thinking these homogeneous countries’ models will fix what ails America. They don’t even apply, much less fit. They are far, far more vulnerable than America is.

  145. The young women of America are going to have to get off their tweets and IMs and Facebooks and Pinterests and get to work or they are going to lose their right to abortion. The Fetus People have been relentless in their attacks on abortion providers, whether political attacks on US Planned Parenthood or firearm attacks on physicians.

    There is an undercurrent of the throwback – regression to the Bad old Days of the ‘fifties – where the girls with money flew to Sweden on Thursday afternoon, to be back in school on Monday, nobody the wiser. If abortion in US goes down (no pun intended), the rich girls who should be having babies will having none, while the illegals and ghetto ho’s who shouldn’t ever bear fruit won’t be able to do any Swedish thing, and will be having ankle-biters in droves.

    And by making abortion the centrepiece of the ReThuglican candidate litmus test, the Fetus People are ensuring that Republicans are painted with the “Anti-Woman” brush and Hillary Ramrod Clinton will be their next prez. Nice going, boys.

    And don’t take it too hard, DR, that you thought girls urinated through their cl*ts. There are women on this board that don’t know the difference, either. At least you knew what the introitus was for; for a young man, that’s all that counts.

  146. Well I knew about the changes you went through regarding abortion rabbit but I could have lived the rest of my life not knowing about THAT evolution.

    Rabbit’s most endearing quality besides the softer side of a man’s man. The brutal truth teller. 😈

    On a side note, I found the study of embryology pretty darned fascinating – especially the reproductive side of it. I can still remember we had a practice test question for diagnostic imagining. Penis or clitoris of a 2nd trimester fetus? Sounds easy. 50/50, right?

    I could see it pretty clearly, so I said out loud in my best smart ass tone, “Well, that’s a little boy!”

    “Mr. Taylor? The clitoris initially grows faster than the penis. You would be wrong.” 😳

  147. Rutherford, you good-for-nothing tyrant. You’ve moderated a perfectly clean anatomical term to ‘protect’ the fairer sex. I just told a “wonderfully fascinating” story, and you’ve censored me. 😈

    Get your lazy ass out of bed and get in here for more important things than making a living. 😈

  148. “The Fetus People have been relentless in their attacks on abortion providers, whether political attacks on US Planned Parenthood or firearm attacks on physicians.”

    Relentless!

    Just like the relentless pro-abortion crowd.

    Put ’em in a blender, Doc. It’s just tissue.

  149. BTW, I would like to thank you Pfesser. You don’t know it but you’ve helped me see something very, very clearly for myself. More than anyone else here. Thank you.

  150. “Far be it from me to defend a profoundly confused, limp dick like Bernie Sanders, but what you witnessed last week on that stage is nothing but the first steps to fascism. – tt”

    The event in Seattle was a SS/Medicare event not a Bernie event. He was asked to speak at it since he was in town for his own event later that day. When the BLM girls took the stage he gave the mic back to the event organize to handle. The organizer shut the event down.

    The BLM girl supposedly is/was tea party/Palin supporter.

  151. Figures you would be supporting BLM…I kind of picture that being your pals. Nose rings and green hair.

    Palin Supporter? Yeah, and I’m a paid Soros lackey and plant on Rutherford’s website.

  152. I’d like a source for the info on the tea party [art, but in any event it wasn’t the first time. The July Phoenix town hall for dem candidates was taken over took over during the interviews with Sanders and O’Malley.

    Remember how that went?

    When the Seattle crowd said they wanted to hear Sanders speak, the BLM losers called his supporters “white supremacist liberals.” And he left.

    Love it. Sweeney Todd hopes you enjoy your meals.

  153. Pfessor’s Eugenics make the hair on my neck stand up.

    Abortion is worth it becuase it kills so many black people.

    I will say this, much like legal immigration, adoption needs to change in this country.

    It’s too hard. They put people through a ringer. Blue collar people pretty much can’t do it.

    I was talking to my wife about having a 3rd baby. I suggested we adopt a black baby. After looking into it, I don’t think we could “prove” ourselves worthy on several fronts. I even heard that they look down on a situation where the kids will be using bunk beds.

    There should be an organization out there making it easier to adopt babies. I realize babies aren’t pets and barriers need to exist. But the system is set up so that working class people can’t adopt, outside of orphans.

    Sure, you can go through foster care to adopt. If you want a gut wrenching roller coaster that may or may not end up in adoption. I have friends that were put through utter hell.

  154. Sure, you can go through foster care to adopt. If you want a gut wrenching roller coaster that may or may not end up in adoption. I have friends that were put through utter hell.

    Heartwrenching. I have a couple that I know that had just raised ‘their baby’ for a year and the child’s parent was able to get him back just a few weeks ago. The child doesn’t know this parent. Devastating for ‘mom and dad’ and traumatic for child.

    Just another example of our f**ked up anti healthy system.

  155. My views on abortion have morphed over the years. At one time I was a radical in-your-face anti abortion protester type. I long ago determined that created more division and less empathy for the cause. I have since decided public protesting does nothing except to identify to society its radicals and to place their lives and livelihoods in danger.

    There are so many evil things done at any given time on this planet, most we tacitly approve. The biggest challenge is (and seems always has been) getting people to see clearly. Thank you, hollywood! 😈

  156. I watched this video yesterday and thought I needed to post it so that people can see how we are being played, though most would still not ‘get it’ with even the obvious shown to them. 😐 I hesitated because the person that put this together is not a refined speaker, and actually is just a simple guy with strong views. So if you really want to see evidence of deception and can tolerate a less than professional narration, here is proof of NASA deception.

  157. That toxic release by the EPA sickens but doesn’t surprise me. They, along with our other bureaucracies, are doing the work of their master satan.

  158. W’That toxic release by the EPA sickens but doesn’t surprise me. They, along with our other bureaucracies, are doing the work of their master satan.”

    Well, we can expect to see Obama pacing the banks, demanding answers and seeking accountability like the BP spill. I assure you, “no one is angrier than Obama.”

    Like the VA and IRS, heads will roll!

  159. We are with our grand daughter, so I have no time to read what was posted right now. Betsys Page links tell us that in addition to Obama’s and his allies racism, they are also anti semitic.

    Trump cited two health care systems, Canada’s and Scotland’s as successes. A report shows Canada’s system is so bad most people must buy private policies. Scotland’s system has killed at least 2000 people in the last ten years or so.

    Seattle has lost as many food service jobs as it did during the crash.

    And experts wonder way Trump and Sanders are doing so well. I think irrationality is in play.

  160. Abortion is the most difficult issue of our time? No, it’s not. At least not for anybody of sound mind and doesn’t have a heart of stone.

    Tex, the self righteous attitude makes matters worse not better.

    Pregnancy is the unusual circumstance of two living beings sharing one biological “entity”. Every decision made for the baby effects the mother and vice versa. It’s ideal when what is best for both parties are always in synch. When they are not, the decision on whom to favor can be gut wrenching.

    It is just as wrong for you to trivialize the abortion decision as it is for the floozies who disgust you (and me). To say the issue is not difficult is to trivialize it.

  161. The problem with Parker is that he favors eugenics. “Unfit” mothers spitting out babies is completely beside the point.

    Parker’s only valid point about the “Fetus people” is that they may indeed force many women voters into Hillary’s hands. Social conservatism will not win elections. Fiscal conservatism stands a much better chance.

  162. It’s tragic that Rutherford tries to makes a point and then has to watch it shrivel like an unwatered flower in the hot sun. Fifty percent of his launched offensive didn’t even make it through the first night. He then wakes to find that his only ally in the battle for Beacon of Chaynge could have written his own latest missive the day he arrived here at Rutherford’s some years ago.

    Oh, PFesser’s changed all right, Rutherford. Now he comes from a land down under, but he brings his old bag of tricks. Down to the unprovoked personal attack against me.

    “There are women on this board that don’t know the difference, either.”

    Merely another lie in a long sordid history of lies here, courtesy Herr Doktor. I challenge him again to back this up. PFucker won’t even step up and tell us its meaning.

    Pfesser Pfarker, you, sir, are a coward. And that is your best quality.

    ~

    As for the changes in you, R, – it’s change with an asterix. It’s Chaynge, and in order to have meaning it requires explanation and an adjective. Phooey.

    Change bears fruit and your change is all spit and shine. Underneath it’s the same old comfortable pair of sneakers. You know what they call spit shining in the shoe world, R? Bull polishing. I know. My second job was as a shoe dog for my girlfriend’s dad’s shoe store.

    So bull polish the views you can’t run from while you pooh pooh the fruited living vines in others if you like. You’re only fooling yourself anymore.

    I guess I could let you think you won Rutherford, without a single score to 3 (arguably 4) by your opponent. I just think it would be embarrassingly obvious. Besides, I’ve changed. I don’t feel like letting you think you’re right when you’re wrong, especially given that it was a self-inflicted wrong.

    You had home field advantage, no cause for quarrel, a dirty player on your team, you whined about the injustice of seeing one of your grossly unfair accusations turn around on you, and have presided over a first wave of attack so weak it managed only to result in ¾ of your thesis collapsing under its own weight.

    So you throw down the accusation that the 4 who make it hard for you to keep up appearances are intransigents and haven’t “budged one bit.”

    I say you don’t know what or who you’re talking about, and that was just made crystal clear. Not only are you wrong about what people here believe and supposedly cling to but you are so blind and self-centered that you correct others when they are right.

  163. So Tex since you’ve got the best biology background on the board, explain this to me.

    As you note, at the “fork in the road” the clitoris either remains one or becomes a penis. Then how in Gods name in the female case, is the urethra then routed between the vagina and anus? The clitoris is at the “top” of the entrance to the vagina. The logistics don’t make sense.

    To put it differently, Rabbit’s misunderstanding is actually intuitively accurate from a fetal development POV. You’d think the urethra would run through the clitoris same way it runs through the penis.

    Expound Dr. Taylor.

  164. Yeah, and I’m a paid Soros lackey and plant on Rutherford’s website.

    Considering how poorly you represent the cause on occasion, that might be plausible. 😝

  165. It’s too hard. They put people through a ringer. Blue collar people pretty much can’t do it.

    It’s expensive too, my friend. You’re damn right it needs to be made easier.

    The focus should be a bare minimum of kids in foster care and as many permanently placed as possible.

    One problem: if you think girls running to the abortion clinic are shallow and immature, take a look at some wanna-be parents. It’s like they’re shopping for a fucking car. A good number want a baby they can eventually pass off as their own (biologically). So whites willing to adopt blacks. Hard to find. Just about no one wants a disabled kid.

    If the attitude toward human life in the pro-choice crowd upsets you, try visiting an adoption agency.

  166. “Parker’s only valid point about the “Fetus people” is that they may indeed force many women voters into Hillary’s hands. Social conservatism will not win elections. Fiscal conservatism stands a much better chance.”

    Pfarker’s Tales of the Fetus People is a big lie. You bring it up – YOU, Rutherford – and if We the Fetus People respond then we’re vilified and treated with intolerance. Pfuck that and pfuck him.

    You’re right it works. On that we agree. But it is wrong.

    I want the Republican Party to keep doing what they’re doing a pretty good job of this time around and not let themselves be used to further the truly self-destructive Democratic agenda. I pray DWS faces the only judgment that counts and in the meantime Reince just pulverizes her by outperforming her and not letting her pull him and the candidates down to her level. I hope every last candidate answers intolerance and lies wisely.

    And after that, I want world peace.

  167. So far they’ve unearthed a photo of the BLM gal in high school hugging a girl who once wore a Palin button on her backpack and gave BLM girl a shout out on FB.

    Seems BLM girl belongs to a radical fringe outpost of the moderate BLM movement of peace. Har har.

  168. This is for everyone’s perusal EXCEPT Rutherford:

    So clearly this is a reverse psychology approach to get me to look at the article. Bravo Tigre it worked!

    One question: why do you dismiss the same message when it comes from TaNehisi Coates?

  169. Pfarker’s Tales of the Fetus People is a big lie. You bring it up – YOU, Rutherford – and if We the Fetus People respond then we’re vilified and treated with intolerance. Pfuck that and pfuck him.

    What the pfuck???? Did you skip the part where I disagreed with Parker?

  170. You’re right, you get hit with shrapnel. Sorry.

    “What the pfuck???? Did you skip the part where I disagreed with Parker?”

    Pfirst – LOL @ WHPf. Bravo.

    No I saw that you disagreed with him. I reckon it didn’t quite satisfy me. 😦

  171. I’ll say this, at the risk of further pissing off Muffy, HRC appears the most genuine, the least forced, the most righteously angry when she discusses what she considers women’s rights.

    Republicans would be best to focus on populist economics where Hillary is a complete, and transparent FAKE. But get her started on “women’s issues” and you see the fire in her eyes. It is where she shows true emotion.

    I’m not endorsing her stand with this comment. I’m just saying THIS is where she will prove to be a formidable candidate.

  172. “HRC appears the most genuine, the least forced, the most righteously angry when she discusses what she considers women’s rights.”

    She probably seems that way to you because she feels unchallenged on the issue. She was the same way about the women victimized by her husband. Benghazi. Let he co-opt a racial grievance, she’ll do it again. Somebody challenges her on her bullshit, like most liberals, she scurry’s away. Maybe someone should down with her and watch the fetal tissue harvesting videos and engage her in a discussion about the broader implications, humanity, and the supposed connection to “women’s rights.” She’d lose that swagger and rage instantaneously like Bill when forced to admit his perjured testimony with “that Women, Ms. Lewinski.”

    Imagine if she were challenged. . .

  173. You’re right. When she’s attacking the credibility of a 12-year-old rape victim and her eyes twinkle and she whips out her sexy southern drawl and wickedly coquettish lilting laugh – she loses that edge.

  174. “You’re right. When she’s attacking the credibility of a 12-year-old rape victim and her eyes twinkle and she whips out her sexy southern drawl and wickedly coquettish lilting laugh – she loses that edge.”

    LOL.

  175. Tex, the self righteous attitude makes matters worse not better.

    Kiss my ass, fool. I’ve actually done something about the cause. It’s called money. And a pretty good chunk of it. Don’t give me the self-righteous baloney. There’s not a more visible issue today practiced that is wrong. I asked a question. Why don’t you give me an answer, coward.

    If there is anybody self-righteous on this board, little man, it is you. You talk a big game about a lot of things. You don’t do shit to rectify them.

  176. I’ll say this, at the risk of further pissing off Muffy, HRC appears the most genuine, the least forced, the most righteously angry when she discusses what she considers women’s rights.

    Could this hoodwinked loon be any dumber? 😆 😆 Hillary Clinton and women’s rights? Married in a sham way to a probable rapist and Hillary Clinton wants to preach about women’s rights? Yeah, Bill Cosby can talk about women’s rights too. Gawd, what a moron.

  177. The anti-Hillary is Fiorina. If she is on the ballot, the “first woman president” historical bonus evaporates. We might even discuss some issues.

    And she is so not my cousin Sarah …

    “I spent 12 years in the state of California, a state that’s been ruled by liberals for a long time. And guess what you have: about 130 billionaires — good for them — the highest poverty rates in the nation, the exodus of middle class and destruction of industry after industry after industry. Income inequality is worse under progressive policies because progressive policies favor the wealthy, the well-connected, the big and the powerful.”

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422295/fiorina-fundraising-spikes-after-debate-joel-gehrke

  178. The Ferguson protests, although eventually rendered unfounded by the rule of law, did aid in reducing military gear being provided to local police departments and also increased the number of police body cams being used, including a new program in Ferguson itself. Hardly two goosesteps TOWARD fascism. Angry ignoramuses, seeking attention (which, BTW, you are providing them) flipping over bingo tables, don’t interest me. When the President has the Head of the Joint Chiefs (see Ernst Rohm) and/or closest friend executed, then I’ll say we are well on our way.

  179. I find the Economist too Eurocentric to enjoy,KAL is still good though.
    The EPA clearly failed to report and communicate in the time frame they themselves demand . That said the state Americas water resources are in should alarm people greatly. The EPA was actually trying to do a good thing and it went bad. Truth be told though the area is in deep shit. Thousands of abandoned mines filled with toxins. Communities that don’t want the Superfund label. Etc.
    Hillary has actually proposed a college plan with details. It is unworkable but day in day out she’s putting out ideas. To defeat her you need to focus on foreign policy,her character and craft a message regards what people really want.

  180. I agree that the most recent unrest in MO is hardly reason to think the end is nigh I don’t share your view on the police.
    Municipalities will embrace the cameras but more because there being money tied to it. FPD were not wearing body cams recently. The municipalities that believe in using advanced tactical equipment will continue to use it. There is a mindset behind it,one I don’t like but am all too aware of it.
    Bottom line Ferguson and the surrounding county are just living the on notice phase. They’ll be back.

  181. I don’t follow. – ET

    Not surprised. You never do. I’ve decided it’s a technique of yours.

    Damn, you should never have gone to law school. Done ruined your mind feller.

  182. Kiss my ass, fool.

    You missed the entire point Tex.

    As long as you characterize every woman seeking an abortion as some immoral harlot you’re going to lose the argument.

    Do you oppose abortion when health of the mother is at risk, or is she a cold blooded shallow whore too?

  183. Could this hoodwinked loon be any dumber?

    Once again the Trump of the board misses the point. I don’t care if she’s a hypocrite Tex. The point is, watch her talk about women’s rights and tell me she doesn’t talk with a sense of authority and confidence.

    You put two Hill’s side by side. The economic populist and the feminist. They’re two different people. The first is entirely fake. The second comes at you like a freight train.

  184. “Not surprised. You never do. I’ve decided it’s a technique of yours.”

    Why don’t you explain yourself rather than that “technique of yours?”

    Jesus. Can you?

  185. The anti-Hillary is Fiorina. If she is on the ballot, the “first woman president” historical bonus evaporates. We might even discuss some issues.

    Thor, I agree completely. It totally nullifies the gender advantage. And Carly is the least afraid to attack Hill with abandon.

    I’d pay to watch the debates. Then I’d have to vote for Trump. 😟

  186. I’ll wager you’re attributing to me something someone else said. You are the most poorly read guy here, in fact close to “not read” at all, but you have to have some idea what the comparison was in reference to Coates or you wouldn’t have said it.

    Go on. Blow me up.

  187. To defeat her you need to focus on foreign policy,her character and craft a message regards what people really want.

    Alfie yes on everything but character. Her trust numbers are upside down and she’s way in front in all the polls. If character mattered she’d be polling behind Chafee. I’m rapidly becoming ashamed to call myself a liberal.

  188. Actually, since it’s too damn hard for Rutherford, how about Muffy with the mind of a steel trap explain what Rutherford is trying to say. I’m too brain damaged from law school to deal with Lawson half-sequiturs. A complete thought on an inchoate one might help.

  189. Why don’t you explain yourself rather than that “technique of yours?”

    I’m in an inexplicably good mood so here goes.

    Coates (in)famous essay on reparations devoted a good amount of space to Northern racism. Coates was dismissed here as a grievance hustler. Yet you proudly post an article documenting same abuses.

    The sad part is you didn’t post it to condemn the North. You posted it to defend the South. 😐

  190. “The sad part is you didn’t post it to condemn the North. You posted it to defend the South.”

    I posted it to condemn you, Rutherford, my shallow and defiantly bigoted friend.

    The Coates’ nexus is fucking lame. I hope it hurt trying to connect something to further some argument about what I haven’t a clue. Let it be known that I think reparations are stupid.

    I’d ask what aspect of the so-called “similarities” I disputed, but I wouldn’t want to put you out like that.

  191. First I’m not a fan of reparations either. Second I’m doing what I do best. I’m nailing you for tacit consent. Tex has on more than one occasion dismissed Coates as race hustler and I recall no protest on your part. Nothing like “well Tex you gotta at least give him credit for pointing out Northern racism.” Crickets.

    Now Muffy can go dig up your quote proving me wrong.

  192. Hardly two goosesteps TOWARD fascism.

    I take back what I said the other day. You are stupid. Frankly, a raging idiot. And perhaps the biggest fucking hypocrite on this board. Where’s you outrage about the EPA dumping toxic waste, when you piss your pants about a few barrels of oil easily retrievable.

    Don’t bother. You know less about science than you do economics.

  193. The Coates’ nexus is fucking lame.

    Best I can tell, Coates hates all whites equally. The David Duke of Baltimore. So he’s a black racist who doesn’t discriminate hating white north and south equally. What is Rutherford’s point?

  194. Breaking: Top secret emails on Hillary’s personal server. Hmmm…

    Someone want to tell me what qualifies this woman to be President again, besides the unsuccessful record concerning everything besides enriching the Clintons?

    Completely lawless, even at the expense of endangering the nation.

  195. Frankly, a raging idiot. And perhaps the biggest fucking hypocrite on this board.

    LOL Thor welcome back to the club of hypocritical raging idiots. Did you know we get discounts at Buffalo Wild Wings?

  196. The racism that fuels segregation in Detroit goes both ways.

    Segregation is an odd animal. For all the yelling and screaming about forced segregation, self-segregation happens all the time. The human race is by and large not socially adventurous. Folks prefer to be with people like themselves. Go into any corporate cafeteria and see all the Indians sitting together.

    Segregation only becomes a problem when X says to Y even if you want to live here, you can’t cos we don’t like your kind.

  197. Hey Tex you know who else is talking about the left killing speech? Bill Maher. He, Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock and some others are saying they don’t want to play college campuses anymore because of all the PC restrictions. Their routines are apparently filled with micro-aggressions.

  198. I take back what I said the other day. You are stupid. Frankly, a raging idiot. – Tex

    Uh duh, a gee, ummm. There’s some long words in that sentence so I don’t quite get it. Uhh.

    All I said was some good came out of Ferguson, even if for the wrong reasons. You don’t have to be a giant dick about it.

  199. Did you know we get discounts at Buffalo Wild Wings? – R

    🙂 🙂 🙂

    I’ve been selected for many clubs here at the bar.

    Traitor, commie, rube, moron, retard, Obama apologist, idiot, liberal, cuddler, serial killer, feminine, bore, fascist, dangerous, Democrat, bigot, liar, stoner, pagan, wicked wielder of emoticons, Gore worshiper, goose chaser, dandy, thorazine, sexist, fool, son of a traitor, and my all-time favorite, numbnutz.

    And most of that was just this week. 🙂

  200. “Tex has on more than one occasion dismissed Coates as race hustler and I recall no protest on your part. Nothing like “well Tex you gotta at least give him credit for pointing out Northern racism.” Crickets.”

    I pointed out Northern racism myself, you dolt. I had to give him credit for pointing out the obvious while you were puffing your magnanimous chest for watching other people on MSNBC attack the stars and bars? You are indeed a giant. 🙄

    Well, at least I know I can “nail your ass” for all of Poolman’s unrebutted psycho shit.

  201. Holy Fuuuuuuuck! They did seize her server, there were top secret emails, and she just submitted an affidavit of compliance to a federal judge.

    I hope she lands in prison.

    She knew about Operation Panda in 2010 — no doubt about it. She HAD to have been briefed. But she kept on anyway.

    And Rutherford would vote for her if she was the nominee anyway!!

  202. You would think this would be devastating news for the piece of garbage. Devastating!

    A potential felony. National security breach. Top secret info. Then non stop lies about it all. What a fail! What a fucking fail!

    But in this new America it won’t mean a thing. Even if General P went to trial.

    Feels like one of those dreams where you can’t scream or keep slipping when you run.

    Debased.

    This country is lost, man.

    Mark my words. An insane Nero will get elected in our life time.

  203. Well, at least I know I can “nail your ass” for all of Poolman’s unrebutted psycho shit.

    Tigre I’d need a dedicated blog to rebut Pools psycho shit. I only rebut whoppers like we never landed on the moon.

  204. She could be potentially be getting emails on Chinese spying on the same day she is sending out TOP SECRET shit on her fucking Hotmail account or whatever the fuck she was using.

    I had a secret clearance and had times been briefed on top secret stuff. If I did what she did :Dishonorable discharge. 100%. Maybe brig time.

  205. “Operation Panda?”

    He’s saying she had to have been briefed on how reckless a non secured server is.

    So, it shows gross negligence.

  206. Any idiot knows it’s reckless. If you want plausible deniability you don’t give a shit.

    I need to go back and refresh myself on Petraeus. All I remember was his telling secrets to his fuck-friend.

  207. I swear I no longer know what to make of Trump. It’s like the pollsters are talking to a bunch of folks playing April Fools on America. One poll shows 32% support. WTF???

    I’ve heard him compared to Berlusconi. I’m no longer so sure his election is preposterous.

  208. “I’ve heard him compared to Berlusconi.”

    That’s an interesting comparison, actually.

    It’s insane. I agree.

    The mob has lost its mind.

  209. Anecdotally, every Trump supporter I know, which is a whopping two people, are former Obama voters

    Idiots who can’t discern pop culture garbage and who got caught up in the same embarrassment you did, R.

    They feel wronged by Obama and are jumping on the latest idiot train full of child-adults.

    Plus, on the Dem side of the ticket is Hillary.

    Independents often get painted as these opened minded smart people. A lot of them are fucking morons.

  210. Thanks for the link Tigre and no worries the “Dancing” would not have helped my understanding. I would still have needed the link.

    So Scott Walker’s joke in the debate might not have been such a joke.

  211. It’s beyond reckless. It’s arrogance. Pure, simple arrogance. Rules are for other people.

    James’ Iowa will take care of Trump. I trust their bullshit detectors, if he even gets that far.

  212. Tigre I’d need a dedicated blog to rebut Pools psycho shit. I only rebut whoppers like we never landed on the moon.

    That would be quite a whopper, eh? 😆 I’m starting to lean that way after more investigation.

  213. “It’s beyond reckless. It’s arrogance. Pure, simple arrogance. Rules are for other people.”

    Arrogance? No. She was deliberately concealing/shielding her communications concerning the Clinton Foundation quid pro quos and probably a bunch of other illegal shit. This was not just flaunting a rule because it was inconvenient to comply. It was to circumvent the purpose of the rule.

    And there’s another problem (see section b concerning disqualification from office):

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

  214. Ok, laws are for other people. Better?

    Section B does explain Dems overindulgence in Walker’s John Doe investigation. It would have cut him off at the knees, nationally.

  215. “I know R, but Iowa is different. You have to actually show up and talk to people and get people to stand up and say, “Trump is my guy, this is why.”

    That’s a good point. Perhaps we are seeing some jaded people trolling the pollsters?

  216. “As you note, at the “fork in the road” the clitoris either remains one or becomes a penis. Then how in Gods name in the female case, is the urethra then routed between the vagina and anus? The clitoris is at the “top” of the entrance to the vagina. The logistics don’t make sense.”

    You make it too hard, Rutherford. I can explain it in a way your patrons can understand:

    God made Man and a Pollock made woman. Who else but a Pollock would put the toilet next to the snack bar?

    See? Biology in one lesson.

  217. Actually, R – I just re-read what you said. For the record (are you listening, Clytie Mae?), the urethra is on the FRONT wall of the vagina, not the rear one, so it is already on the same side as the clitoris. Just a little evolutionary developmental magic, and the clitoris folds over the pipe from above, surrounds it, fuses in the back, and violà – a pee-pee with a hosepipe through the centre, and It’s a Boy!. Ain’t evolution wonderful?

    There’s a good series on “Why Sex?” put out by some TV channel or other. Their final conclusion was that sex is a very risky procedure, but from an evolutionary perspective, it’s worth it. Great invention, that …

  218. Wow. I gotta go back to my bio diagrams. I could have sworn the opening of the urethra was between the “bottom” of the vaginal entrance and the anus (before the butt crack so to speak).

    Damn Rabbit looks like I’m almost as ignorant as you are.

  219. Wow. I gotta go back to my bio diagrams. I could have sworn the opening of the urethra was between the “bottom” of the vaginal entrance and the anus (before the butt crack so to speak).

    Something ain’t right at the Rutherford house. 😛

    I can read why Muffy only appears on special occasions. 😈 It’s a wonder she appears at all.

    I don’t even want to ask about the Lawson “G” spot. Poor Mrs. Lawson. No wonder she’s frightened to go to bed. 😆 😆 We’re going to have to find Rutherford some better reading glasses.

    For Mrs. Taylor, in case you ever appear here. I did not partake in this discussion, honey. I didn’t even answer the embryology question. Honest.

  220. A fire started on the east side of the Spokane River this afternoon. Blowing up pretty fast. 100 homes on level 2 evac status, about 4 miles south of my in-laws. Hearing choppers every once in a while along with two smaller jets. This summer can’t end soon enough.

  221. “I don’t even want to ask about the Lawson “G” spot. Poor Mrs. Lawson. No wonder she’s frightened to go to bed.”

    LOL!

  222. I regrettably just imagined the revolting image of a snarling and writhing Rutherford trying to get the poor ol’ lady in the mood.

    Wtf.

    R walks around with a permanent O face. Imagine that motherfucker laying pipe!

  223. Pools do you apply the same analysis and skepticism to Alex Jones and Brother Nate that you apply to Scott Pelley?

    Rutherford, I have become a skeptic and analyze everything I consume. Alex Jones is controlled opposition. He does some truth telling, but I take what he reports with a grain of salt. Brother Nate is eccentric and a bit fanatical but I agree with him much of the time. He believes everything he says. I do not accept anything the msm reports at face value. Aside from that, Scott Pelley and I have some things in common. He lived in Lubbock and also attended Texas Tech when I did. I’m only a few months older than he is. I don’t watch CBS anymore, but I remember watching him on 60 minutes. He still does the evening news so I sometimes hear him when mrs poolman is snewin’.

  224. They’ll be fine, they have a road over the back of the mountain or they can go out by boat. But if the fire reaches the confluence of the Spokane and little Spokane, it could split. At that point, the DNR will be forced to pick winners and losers. With darkness the FireBosses and/or PBY’S will be grounded. Hope no one loses their house tonight.

  225. permanent O face.

    Reference to blow up doll? Not that I’d know anything about that.

    “Snarling”? I’m no Casanova but even I know snarling isn’t a come on.

  226. Seeing that ‘O’ face….

    Did I ever mention to the room about walking up on a couple at a sandy lake beach one evening many years ago making love in the “missionary position?”

    Didn’t see much as they were behind a small bush but I knew they were “facing each other” as her toes were sticking up in the air with several empty beer bottles laying around – which is about all I could see.

    How did I know they were making love? 😈

    Because she kept saying in a loud voice and in cadence, “Bart, Bart, Bart, Bart” He only made noise at the end.

    I got about a hundred feet away back near the trailer and yelled, “What the hell is going on out here!”

    It got completely quiet. 😆

  227. Tex’s story reminds me of the grade school tale where the children, having finished the day’s work, were musing with the teacher about which part of the body goes to heaven first when you die.

    Little Susie opines that it’s the heart, “… because that’s where all your good feelings are.”

    Little Sarah thinks it’s the brain, “… because that’s where all your good thoughts are.”

    Little Johnny (It’s always Little Johnny, isn’t it?) pipes up: “I don’t think – I know! It’s your feet!

    The teacher, genuinely puzzled, of course has to ask why he thinks that.

    “Last night, I heard loud noises coming from Mom’s and Dad’s bedroom. I snuck over and opened the door a crack. There was Mom on the bed, lying on her back with her feet waaaaaaay up in the air, screaming, “Oh God! Oh God! I’m coming! I’m coming!”

    “…………. and she’d ‘a made it, too, if Daddy hadn’t held her down.”

  228. Rutherford, I am at a total loss. WTF were you thinking???

    Forget it. Please don’t answer. I am just. . . well. . . holy shit.

    You were serious. Next time Google my friend. I thought you were going for comedic effect.

  229. No big deal, R. Appreciate someone big enough to say, “I didn’t know” – when they don’t have to. Don’t take it too hard – pussy can be confusing.

    But – if you think what’s between their thighs is complicated, what’s between their ears puts it to shame.

  230. No time for reading much or commenting. Here is my Beatles comment. My wife and I could tell stories, but we won’t.

  231. “First I’m not a fan of reparations either. Second I’m doing what I do best. I’m nailing you for tacit consent. Tex has on more than one occasion dismissed Coates as race hustler and I recall no protest on your part. Nothing like “well Tex you gotta at least give him credit for pointing out Northern racism.” Crickets.

    Now Muffy can go dig up your quote proving me wrong.”

    Everyone here is guilty of gross tacit consent by not protesting the unrivaled stupidity of this.

  232. Well it’s got to be hard trying to have a point on which you can’t be proven wrong but that’s absurd. No wonder Tigre didn’t know what the hell you were driving at. Who else but you would?

  233. Hey Rutherford? You still want to call Barack Obama a mediocre President? 🙂

    How about you, Thor. You still want to tell us how the economy is soaring. Hey, look at the stock market? Right? 🙂

    The Democrat presidential candidate Bernie Sanders draws 10,000-15,000 people at every event, while his rival Hillary Clinton’s largest crowd was only 5500. However, Sanders isn’t telling Americans how great the Obama years have been, but how bad things are. Yet you won’t hear any of that on the networks or read about it on any news sites…they only focus on the crowd size.

    Sanders also noted that millions of Americans are in desperate need of jobs as he said the unemployment numbers coming from the Obama administration aren’t to be trusted.

    “Every month government comes out with a statistic on unemployment. Last statistic said that official unemployment was 5.3 percent but what they forgot to tell you is that statistic doesn’t include those people who have given up looking for work, those people who are working part time. Add it all together and real unemployment is over 10 percent.”

    😆 😆 Yes…We…Can!

  234. Rabbit, I finally went back to your Basinski. 40 minutes of whales meditating. Perfect for my “work” playlist. 🙂

    Hey ET, does this buy back some of my three-chord cred, or has Enya left a permanent stain on my dress? 🙂

  235. Funny you mention whales, Thor. I can remember many of midwatch, after the end of the Cold War in the Pacific, where we would listen to whales instead of submarines all night on the watch floor. Soothing.

  236. I’ll give Sanders one thing so far, Rutherford. Something I can’t say about the grossly incompetent, useful idiot, Gestapo Obama and the slimebag, crooked, thieving, shrewish, rat turd, horse’s ass, Fat Granny Clinton.

    At least so far, it appears Bernie the Greek is a more truthful bat shit crazy and ignorant. Bernie would have to wash and comb that hair for me to get interested.

  237. Bernie’s been looking a lot less disheveled lately. And yes he BELIEVES what he says and was Elizabeth Warren before Elizabeth Warren was Elizabeth Warren. Watching HRC do her fake Warren impersonation is cringe-worthy.

  238. ” was Elizabeth Warren before Elizabeth Warren was Elizabeth Warren.”

    I’m confused. Does that make him a Native American?

  239. Rutherford did you ever watch the Bill Whittle takedown of Jon Stewart that Tex(?) put up a little while back?

    (The Jon Stewart angle is actually not why I’m asking.)

  240. we would listen to whales instead of submarines all night on the watch floor. Soothing. -DR

    Rabbit, I remember an article years ago, I think in Popular Mechanics, about how there is a sound channel at certain depths of the ocean (depending on variables like salinity and temperature) where even ultra low frequencies move more rapidly, kind of like a jet stream for sound. They suspect certain whales use this channel to communicate over hundreds, perhaps thousands of miles. So, it’s possible, they were listening to you while you were listening to them. 🙂

  241. Well, I just spent 75 minutes staring at the heavens with my two dogs in the dark on the deck and now have a neck cramp. That was a lot of work for 4 quick flashes of grains of sand burning up in the atmosphere.

    It is amazing how well dogs can see in the dark. It was almost pitch black and these two had no problem playing fetch and making general nuisances of themselves. I love them.

    Weather was perfect, slight breeze, approximately 72 degrees, and only one bug bite, best I can tell. I forget how beautiful the heavens truly are.

    In the beginning…nothing else does justice.

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