The Brutal Truth About Poverty (and Other Thoughts)

The Brutal Truth About Poverty

At a recent RNC meeting, former (and soon to be?) presidential candidate, Mitt Romney said:

THE ONLY POLICIES THAT WILL REACH INTO THE HEARTS OF AMERICAN PEOPLE AND PULL PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY AND BREAK THE CYCLE OF POVERTY ARE REPUBLICAN PRINCIPLES, CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES … AND WE’RE GONNA BRING THEM TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND FINALLY END THE SCOURGE OF POVERTY IN THIS GREAT LAND.

Pardon my French but, in a word, bullshit. It’s not that conservative principles can’t “end the scourge of poverty”. It’s that nothing can. You see, it’s all about the human condition.

On paper, socialism is the only economic model that wipes out poverty (and extreme wealth as well). The problem is that socialism is antithetical to human nature. Socialism makes no room for selfishness.

Capitalism, on the other hand, is perfectly suited to human nature. Unfortunately, like the balance sheets that document its progress, capitalism is a zero sum game. There are winners and losers, assets and liabilities, whole swaths (of people) that must be written off.

Anyone who tells you his ideology will wipe out poverty is lying to you. If you don’t want to be poor, the only way out is to work your ass off. No system is going to save you. And since there will always be those unwilling or unable to work their ass off, there will always be poor people. Poverty is here to stay.

Was She REALLY Raped – Part 1

Between yesterday and today the GOP-run House watered down an anti-abortion bill which originally allowed for rape exceptions if the rape had been reported to the police. Republican women objected and demanded the police report requirement be excised.

Folks, this is one area where the PC talk needs to end. In what fantasy land are women incapable of lying about being raped? If I don’t pay my bills with the reason that my bank account was hacked and emptied, my billers are going to want proof. Did I file a claim? Did I report the loss to any authority? Why is the charge of rape (a deadly serious crime) the only one that can be levied carte blanche with no proof whatsoever? Forget proof – with NO ATTEMPT to seek justice?

In the world of insults to humanity, abortion ranks right up there with rape. If we are going to use a crime (rape) as a reason for the drastic step of terminating a pregnancy, then there ought to be some evidence that the woman treated the crime like a crime and reported it.

Was She REALLY Raped – Part 2, the Cosby Edition

I have little doubt that in the course of a long marriage, Bill Cosby was unfaithful, probably more than once. Many men think with the wrong head and this applies double to famous men.

But the MORE women who come forth with drug-cum-rape charges against Cosby the LESS I believe it. It starts to go into Ripley’s Believe it or Not territory. A half dozen women? Yeah I could have bought that. But more than two dozen?

Why would there be a rush for the rape bandwagon? I have a theory. Bill Cosby was one of the few brave black men to pull the covers off the “black community” and tell young black men and women to get their act together. Blacks hate nothing more than one of our own airing our dirty laundry and calling us to task in public.

And in a community dominated by single mothers, who will take the most offense at failures in child rearing? On Larry Wilmore’s new Comedy Central show, “The Nightly Show”, an editor of Ebony magazine, Jamilah Lemieux, could not help but mention Cosby’s lecturing. Besides his former co-star Phylicia Rashad, you don’t see many black women (or women in general) coming to his defense.

Cosby broke the “rule” that you NEVER suggest black folk have any accountability for their own situation. Now he’s paying for it big time.

What do you think? The bar is open.

518 thoughts on “The Brutal Truth About Poverty (and Other Thoughts)

  1. I don’t have time to write much detail. On the whole, I agree with you. However, Romney was right that traditional Republican values improve the lives of more people than Democratic values. The competing modes of living are not the property of any one group. They are rules of human behavior which are supported by scientific rules. Republicans say they support values they often ignore.

    Rapacious capitalism creates prosperity and destroys people Our combination of socialism and capitalism seems to help the largest number of people. Yes, hard work is required to escape from poverty, but poor decisions made as early as grade or high school do too. I know people who work very hard and still are poor because they chose the wrong jobs and undervalued their education.

    Many women are like many blacks and other colors including whites. They want special privileges because they have been victims instead of survivors .In the legislation’s case, the women care more about themselves than the babies who suffer as they die. How many rape victims wait over 20 weeks for an abortion?

    I agree, Bill Cosby probably took advantage of women, but the hordes coming out of empty closets are opportunists in my opinion. I learned all I needed to know in the service. I know the conflicts associated with putting one’s life at risk to file a complaint. I know some of these women were afraid a powerful man would put their careers in jeopardy. My life was in jeopardy. There was little danger that Cosby or his thugs would visit the women at night. If Cosby was doing wrong years ago, his victims had an obligation to file charges when it happened to prevent him from repeating his violations on others.

    Blacks are sometimes afraid to tell what they know after a crime because they could be killed. However, even in such a highly charged atmosphere as Ferguson’s shootings, black people were brave enough to tell the truth to a grand jury.

    Women who waited for years until someone made a charge are oportunistic cowards and parasites. I have little sympathy for them.

  2. On the SOTU:

    H”is admirers see his speeches as ornate cathedrals of rhetoric when they are more like the kitsch from a TGI Friday’s, recycling old license plates and “gone fishin’” signs for that “authentic” feel. And just as every TGI Friday’s pretends it’s unique by adding a few bits of “flair” to the servers’ suspenders, what they dish out is always the same warmed-over swill drenched in cheesiness. So it is with Obama’s speeches.”

    Rhetorically proximate to corporate budget restaurant franchise. Ha.

  3. What do you think?

    I think you don’t understand a thing about Capitalism or Economics. And I think you share company in this ignorance with America’s most feckless President, Barack Obama.

    Unfortunately, like the balance sheets that document its progress, capitalism is a zero sum game. There are winners and losers, assets and liabilities, whole swaths (of people) that must be written off.

    If capitalism were a zero sum game, there would have never been a day America had experienced growth and an increase in wealth. I think capitalism is the one true economic platform in history that has lifted more people out of poverty by a factor of hundreds, perhaps thousands.

    And I don’t think Americans, me included, have ever seen real poverty unless and until they have traveled out of this country to destinations where Barack Obama would be a more fitting tin pan dictator.

  4. We will always have the poor among us. The need has always been great, though even the poorest Americans are economically wealthy compared to the majority of the world. If you reference spiritual poverty, we would rank among the poorest worldwide. Don’t confuse this with humility which has merit and requires us a submissive spirit as in “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” This attitude recognizes our own spiritual poverty and need for redemption.

    It doesn’t matter what form of government we claim to live under. They are all forms of enslavement. The effort to democratize the globe isn’t to free people of their enslavement, rather to expose them to consumerism and centralized control. Wealth can be a millstone around one’s neck and material gain isn’t going to save one’s soul. Of this the Lord said, “And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?”

    People in the west live beyond their means by design. We continually steal from the future to satisfy our desires today. Many succumb to this self gratification trap that stifles generosity, a place where apathy replaces compassion. That is what we are spreading in the world, along with terrorism and pornography.

    Republican principles vs democrat principles? It’s a farce. I don’t think either are principled. We have a history of both blurring those lines. If you want America’s attention, take away our sports. The entire media is concerned with deflated footballs rather than illegal drone strikes over sovereign peoples.

    There will be hell to pay.

  5. Tex, I don’t think you refuted my basic premise. Do you believe poverty can be wiped out in the USA? If you don’t, then you agree that Mitt, taken literally, is full of crap.

  6. “Do you believe poverty can be wiped out in the USA”

    Maybe it already has?

    How many people that fall under your poverty lable own a TV? Have air conditioning? A smart phone? Eat out at least once a month?

  7. So Rabbit, maybe the first step is to define Romney’s poverty label. He’s the one talking about ending the scourge.

    And mind you, he set the location. He didn’t say global poverty.

    Sounds like the boards counter to my argument is that real poverty doesn’t exist in this country. Is that really where you guys want to go?

    Could it be you’re hearing a racial dog whistle? How about Appalachia? Is there poverty there? If so, what can Mitt do about it?

    Understand i could just as easily have quoted HRC and her “we were dead broke when we left the White House”.

    The talk about poverty is 99% rhetoric. Nothing more.

    P.S. G’s quote from that democrat shows the disconnect too. I just object to G’s implication that it’s a Dem thing only.

  8. Rabbit is right, Rutherford. America’s poverty is Peru’s middle class. So how do you define poverty, Rutherford?

    Do you believe poverty can be wiped out in the USA?

    Poolman is also right. We will always have the poor amongst us. Much as libs pay lip service to “safety nets”, liberalism has done more to sustain poverty than anything else in this nation. We’ve spent about $20 trillion since 1964 under ‘The Great Society’, and it hasn’t made a dent in the poverty rate.

    I wasn’t trying to refute that poverty can be wiped out – it can’t because there will always be inequality of talents, gifts, luck, and fate.

    My point was refuting your nonsense capitalism is a zero sum game. And Free Enterprise has given Americans the highest standard of living the world has ever known – especially America’s middle class. If Lefties would focus their attention not on more governance or standardizing incomes, and instead focus on assisting business and getting rid of bureaucratic red tape and irrational regulation, we could do far more as a nation to assure less people were defined as poor.

  9. Wealth and poverty are relative as you wrote. In that respect the poor will always be with us because without a Pol Pot style of government income disparities will always exist. I have been to Applachia and to Pine Ridge where third world poverty is still the norm. Some European countries which rank fairly high on the economic scale still have rural areas with outdoor plumbing.

    As was also noted, capitalism creates new wealth faster than other systems. Therefore, though we will always have poor people, Romney is more right than liberals. Obama’s version of economic development is a proven failure. In that sense, Romney is right, and Obama is wrong. Obama’s policies create more poor people.

  10. Imagine if there were no wealthy people. The computer you work on and that BMW electric car you drive wouldn’t exist.

    It’s not zero sum.

  11. “Racial dog whistle?” Where did that come from?

    It just occurred to me that you folks might have been equating poor with black which then takes us down the popular conservative meme of food stamps buying filet mignon and welfare checks buying hi-def TV’s. I wanted to remove that element by pointing toward Appalachia.

  12. I’m not equating poverty with race. I don’t have too. Our county doesn’t have any black people, but it certainly has poor people.

    Newsbusters is linked to a Wall Street Journal report showing Real Time Economics, quoting the National Association of Counties says only 65 counties have fully recovered from the recession.,Most are in conservative red states and have small populations. Many are in energy rich locations and the Heartland. Their total population is .5 % of the US population.

    An estimated 200,000 Pro Life marchers were temporarily blocked by Pro Baby Killers. The anti-protesters spoke and behaved like aggrieved sluts and pimps. They also asked the crowd to contribute bail money.

  13. You guys have to watch the show Black Mirror on Netflix.

    Just watched season 1. Only 3 episodes per season.

    Its like a Twilight Zone for the modern world. The third episode made me really think about where we are heading.

    As for the first episode….well….you just have to see it.

  14. re: capitalism vs socialism. R, this experiment has been run already – dozens of times. If you simply take total wealth produced over – say, two hundred years – and divide it by the population, capitalism has produced tens – if not hundreds – of times the individual human benefit of socialism.

    As Churchill put it, the inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries, but it’s been shown that socialism also creates the greatest disparity between rich and poor – like it is doing in US now. American companies and rich folks, with the resources to comply with government over-regulation, USE those resources to game the system – something the average guy can’t do.

    No, the socialist/communist model is the perfect demonstration that thought experiments always need to be tested in the real world.

    You want your “people” to do well, Rutherford? Then teach them that THE WELFARE STATE IS NOT THEIR FRIEND.

  15. “The truth of the matter is: The reason we even have colleges is that at some point there were politicians who said, ‘You know what? We should start colleges,’” Obama suggested to interviewer Bethany Mota.

    Oh my dear lord, the Smartest Man In the World (TM) says some of the Stupidest Shit in the World (TM). Politicians created colleges, coming from the deep thinker from Harvard Law Review. I wonder what Harvard would have to say about that? Or Hillsdale, or Princeton, or Yale, or Oxford, or Norwich, or…..

  16. “F— you Michael Moore, you’re a piece of shit and your uncle would be ashamed of you. Seth Rogen, your uncle probably molested you. I hope both of you catch a fist to the face soon.” ~ Kid Rock on Twitter

    Reads like my kind of man. I like this Kid Rock more and more.

    Aren’t we overdue to take Moore’s chunky, lying, traitorous arse and move him into Taliban territory, armed and alone?

  17. It just occurred to me that you folks might have been equating poor with black which then takes us down the popular conservative meme of food stamps buying filet mignon and welfare checks buying hi-def TV’s. I wanted to remove that element by pointing toward Appalachia.

    So you were inserting your own racial biases?

    “…popular conservative meme of food stamps buying filet mignon and welfare checks buying hi-def TV’s…”

    I have personally seen both of these examples, the first of which was white and the second was black. ‘Appalachia’ is not alone in its “white poverty”. What’s so telling about this is how ignorant and biased you are. If we were to use your logic and thinking, would not Appalachia be the same “code word” as inner city?

  18. Barack Obama is such a poor student of history, he should be enrolled in remedial work – starting about 8th grade. As it is, the country is so pitiful anymore, this feckless schmuck is President. Twice. Tells you all you need to know about the state of this union.

    If nothing else has happened the last six years, I hope recent history has proven two things. Barack Obama is not only not brilliant, he’s hardly average. And two, when taken as a whole, people who voted for Barack Obama and still repeat the lies aren’t terribly bright either.

  19. “Barack Obama is such a poor student of history, he should be enrolled in remedial work – starting about 8th grade.”

    With Rutherford Lawson sitting right next to him, with googly eyes, laughing at every joke the cool kid Obama says, invisible to Obama of course.

  20. “Hucking, I demand a review of season one Black Mirror.”

    I’ll see what I can do. Things are a little hectic for me right now

  21. And no, not the Gorilla kind of “serious shit” hectic, or the “I’m trying to glorify myself” hectic, but rather the “oh shit, I just got asked to give a 3rd lecture class” hectic. The good kind. 🙂

  22. I’m embarrassed. Thank God there was no crowd.

    I went to Home Depot early this morning to avoid the Saturday rush. I went to get some topsoil. Our lamp post in the front garden went out and my wife really likes this light in the yard – somewhere there’s a dead short. So I needed dirt to fill these holes I’m going to make.

    I reached down to pick up the second bag – perhaps 50lbs as they were wet, and son-of-a-bitch if I didn’t strain my internal oblique (the lower side of your back). Put me to my knees. I haven’t hurt like that in a while. I finished loading the bags while holding my breath – I was determined to get this crap home.

    But I was vain enough to look around after I did it. LOL. I don’t know why.

  23. The poor will always be among us. Capitalism is allowing people the opportunity to avoid poverty vs. socialism being a forced redistribution of it…a tyranny of mediocrity.

    Economics isn’t a zero sum game, and neither is capitalism. You aren’t dealing with set number of dollars, which is why people who’ve devoted more than three minutes to thinking about it realize that any talk of “fair share” as it is currently practiced is utter nonsense.

    Some people will ALWAYS make bad decisions. It isn’t government’s job to protect them from the consequences of doing so, or to make them comfortable in their indolence, ignorance, or poor judgment.

  24. “So I needed dirt to fill these holes I’m going to make”. -Tex

    Man…..the earth here is a frozen tundra….for some reason the thought of digging a whole, smelling the earth made me yearn for Spring.

  25. If we were to use your logic and thinking, would not Appalachia be the same “code word” as inner city?

    Absolutely. That’s why I used the code word. Appalachia brings to mind white poverty. Unfortunately “poverty” with no modifying adjective usually brings to mind black people.

    Since I didn’t want to be mistakenly accused of making a racial argument, I threw Appalachia into the mix to be clear I was interested in talking about all poor people.

  26. Michael Moore and Seth Rogen in the same tweet. Strange bedfellows. Moore pisses everyone off but what did Rogen do to piss off Kid Rock? I’m pretty sure Rogen is a stoner. ‘Nuff said.

  27. Some people will ALWAYS make bad decisions. It isn’t government’s job to protect them from the consequences of doing so, or to make them comfortable in their indolence, ignorance, or poor judgment.

    I’m not entirely sure that contradicts my post, if it was meant to.

  28. Alfie, contrary to what the post left unsaid, I do know that many if not most women feel they won’t be believed when they report a rape. I know this leads many of them not to do so.

    That said, rape is a crime. I think we’ve got a problem when a woman uses an unreported crime as the basis to terminate a pregnancy.

    I actually go further. If one is REALLY pro-life, neither rape not incest are valid reasons for abortion (barring the whole in-breeding medical issues of course).

  29. “If we are going to use a crime (rape) as a reason for the drastic step of terminating a pregnancy, then there ought to be some evidence that the woman treated the crime like a crime and reported it.”

    I think you really need to talk with women and men who have been raped to understand why it is not easily reported. And how can you prove rape weeks, month after the fact?

  30. And how can you prove rape weeks, month after the fact?

    Why would you need to? If you’ve been raped, it would be beneficial while the evidence is still “present.”

  31. And how can you prove rape weeks, month after the fact?

    JAL, no rocket science here… rape involves sexuality and everything about sex is fucked up in this country. Some women who are raped feel shame when they shouldn’t. The shame belongs to the rapist.
    To answer your specific question you DON’T report rape weeks or months after the fact. It’s a crime and you report it as soon after it happens as possible.
    If I’m not mistaken, the legislation that got watered down did not require “proof” of rape but simply a police report that the crime occurred.

  32. The problem I’m having on this subject is that we have a quaint double standard in this country that in general, women are saintly and don’t lie and men are scumbags. Frankly I’m sick if it. It makes a mockery of the women’s movement which claimed equality. Women are JUST as scummy as men and the word of the average woman on any subject is no more credible than that of the average man.

    Just a few weeks ago someone here posted a comment from another forum where a woman decided she’d been raped retroactively after she didn’t like the fact that her bf broke up with her when he caught her cheating on him. I doubt she’s alone.

    I hate to quote that horses ass Aiken but claiming your consentual sex was rape when the relationship goes south is not “legitimate rape”.

    The clearest cleanest way to deal with this topic is to treat rape like the violent crime that it is and act accordingly.

  33. Kid is politically fairly conservative or at least he was. His statement isn’t out of character.

    I understood why you included Appalachia It is the same reason I mentioned Pine Ridge. I have been to both places. One represents whites and the other Native Americans.

    My wife doesn’t look over my shoulder when I visit your site.Life taught me everything I needed to know during my Air Force time of troubles. I have talked to rape victims and also men wrongfully accused of rape.

    My opinion is cruel and unfeeling toward a rape victim because of my experiences. A woman has a duty to report a rape as soon after it happens as possible. If she is in danger, she must find a protector whether it be a gun, the law or allies. If she still feels unsafe and decides not to report the rape, she has made a permanent decision. If she fails to report the crime by 20 weeks she has forfeited her right to kill her unborn baby because by that time, it is sentient without the capacity to understand what is happening as it is dismembered alive. I would wonder what had changed between ten minutes after the attack and twenty weeks later.

    “Rape is not easily reported” is an understatement, but at 20 weeks, I give the benefit of the doubt to the baby.

    I think you are right about how the bill was watered down, Rutherford, though I haven’t read the bill.

  34. Rutherford the percentages of abortions attributed to rape and by rape I include incest and horny husband telling his wife to get Biblical and STFU are the lowest reasons recorded so right off the bat you and the line item supporters are talking out your ass.
    the 20 wk thing had a 50% /50% component imo. On one hand if you want to eliminate abortions period you of course have to dance around the alleged sacred cow ones i.e. rape. Thing is a rape victim will likely pursue an abortion before wk 20.
    And again I think you’re still off course with rape victims reporting crimes,how sexual assaults are handled in the USA and how the legal system makes it hard for victims. Don’t get me started on the rape/unwanted pregnancy of a wife/partner who is impregnated and dominated by an asshole
    Reporting rape/sexual assault is a hard road and I’m with you that it is a road that should be one that encourages people to get the deviants out of society. I still say though until you walk a block let alone a mile in a victims shoes you should much like the GOP nut bags STFU

  35. About 10;20 PM a gun fight broke out at a house, and two men were wounded. Early this morning, a party was at an unoccupied house. Gun fire began, around and in a crowd of over forty. When it was over, two women were dead, and five men were shot. Few people helped the police with information. People gathered at the hospital and surged into the waiting room. More fights began, and the police arrested two more people. One was tasered.

    An hour or so later, a man shot at police and fled. They caught him later.

    One night of violence prompted the police chief to hold a press conference this afternoon. He asked witnesses to help find the evil doers for the sake of their emotionally devistated families and to stop the shooters before they kill again. He said some were known gang members, and one shooting might have been revenge for the first.

    This is relevant to the discussion and others because it exposes “Black lives matter” to be as as much a lie as 20 week old unborn babies lives matter. They don’t matter any more than tomorrow’s trash unless they are used to prove a point. Crime victims have a duty to report crimes or to shut up later.

    This bothers me on several levels including the real possibility that some of those people were our daughter’s clients.

  36. I’ve noticed that with the exception of James, no one has touched the rape part of the piece.

    Do your wives look over your shoulder while you comment?

    Truthfully, it would be a stretch to presume her opinion is different from mine.

    However, since there is a strong attachment to the private right to assisted murder in this country, it is unlikely that the application of rape to that right is going to change anytime soon.

  37. “And no, not the Gorilla kind of “serious shit” hectic, or the “I’m trying to glorify myself” hectic, but rather the “oh shit, I just got asked to give a 3rd lecture class” hectic. The good kind.”

    LOL, yes indeed…

  38. Ha Ha !! You may forget me, but you won’t forget the music.

    Mars has even had snow fall. Recently someone reported that several US cities were colder than Mars. Of course they were talking about a warm summer day in the crater where the newest explorer is working.

    How many of his wives did bin Ladin take with him?

  39. Rutherford – re: comment on rape reporting. “… we have a quaint double standard in this country that in general, women are saintly and don’t lie and men are scumbags. Frankly I’m sick if it.”

    You are spot on. In the war of the sexes, women have this patently unfair advantage: They are “saintly,” they don’t lie, and all men with a swinging dick are rapists in prospect.

    Some of the best things to happen in your country are the UVA “rape” debacle and the Duke Lacrosse case. They are small doses of reality. The fact is, little girls take in deceit with their mothers’ milk. My wife once told me: the first thing we need to tell our sons before they start dating is that Girls Lie, and They Lie All the Time.

    Do some get raped? Sure they do, but unless this august group of Thinkers woke up in Russia this morning, the accused gets the benefit of the doubt. That means that when an accusation of rape is made, just like every other crime it needs to have evidence to support it, not just a jilted girlfriend’s ANONYMOUS word.

    And that means if you wait six months to report it, you are just shit-out-of-luck, Honey.

  40. Hey Poolman, if you magnify that picture of Mars landscape and look real hard you’ll see bin Laden.

    I’m pretty sure that’s Tim Osman. He’s been doing his Waldo impression after getting back from his deep sea dive stint.

    Re: the red planet looks blue. I wonder where they’ll plant the first Mickey dees?

  41. Girls Lie, and They Lie All the Time.
    And if you have a daughter you rightly tell them that Guys chase pussy like a dog chases bacon and they lie for the lay all fucking day.
    I’m sad to say I’m far from shocked that folks who want to demand women report rape in a timely fashion use incidents bred out of acts of fiction to dictate it. One of the reasons the fiction flies with credibility is that wisdom and reality tells us that events like these do happen and a better system needs to be in place. Get the better system and you’ll see the lies and fiction fall off the scene. Meanwhile fight the lies as best we can,punish the offenders on both sides of the coin but foster an environment where real victims can come forth without feeling like they are running the gauntlet.

  42. Please don’t confuse my passion about the issue as to be supportive of the fictionalized well past status of limitations $$$ seeking stuff. Sadly those folks only make it harder for real victims.

  43. Maher, Moore, and Rogen – excellent caricatures of the typical Leftist. Remember when they told us the Tea Party irrelevant? Well, according to Howard Dean, it’s the Tea Party that just put American Sniper over the $200MM in two weeks.

    Rutherford, your bed mates are the most pathetic people on earth – cowards and imbeciles. And why a guy like Bret Stephens would appear with these dumb shits astounds me as well.

  44. Rutherford to your mitt moment in the post. Please don’t feign shock in the light of “inequality” becoming a platform plank for both parties. You should be thankful that the topic may entertain some legitimate dialogue and a legitimate choice of different courses of action.

  45. I’m sad to say I’m far from shocked that folks who want to demand women report rape in a timely fashion use incidents bred out of acts of fiction to dictate it.

    Fiction only in the sense the egregious charges were later proven to be false. Why wouldn’t we use those as examples to justify Rutherford’s point?

    Let’s just say there’s been a multitude of fantasy rape episodes in the news lately, from the 1 in 5 women molested on college campuses lie and propagated by academia, to the latest UVA travesty where the President of the University should be fired then sued for slander, to the insufferable Lena Dunham’s fantasy Republican rapist.

    I can’t figure out for the life of me in one “real” episode of rape that it would be and advantageous and advisable to wait around for a few weeks, months and sometimes years to contact the authorities.

    And last I checked, the innocent until proven guilty privilege still applies – even on college campuses where too often the accuser must prove his own innocence.

  46. As relates to Rutherfords post what angle are folks coming from? If its the Cosby variant I agree with you. Rutherfords “Part 1” variant is the one I’m more focused on.

  47. Hell yes, Parker.

    Victims and survivors will always run a gauntlet. I quarrel with the concept of victim hood when crime victims should regard themselves as survivors.

    I realize it is easier said than done, and the prudent choice may be to shut up. The Drudge Report linked to the mass shooting in Omaha I mentioned. Most people are too afraid of consequences to help the police find the killers. Sacrificing one’s life and welfare to perform a civic duty is a lot to ask without assured protection.

  48. Rep Ellmer’s stunt was a disaster.

    A couple of the shmales here seem just a tad disappointed over what the sexual revolution as it pertains to the death of millions of innocents has wrought. A great many women have become the equals of men if only in one way. Stupid cows.

    Suggest to the victimized men that they not be alone with a woman and the very overblown problem of false allegations of sexual assault will be largely handled.

  49. “The problem I’m having on this subject is that we have a quaint double standard in this country that in general, women are saintly and don’t lie and men are scumbags. Frankly I’m sick of it.”

    “You are spot on. In the war of the sexes, women have this patently unfair advantage: They are “saintly,” they don’t lie, and all men with a swinging dick are rapists in prospect.”

    Clearly we’re dealing with victim envy and plain old-fashioned bitterness toward wommings.

  50. Donald Dumbass Trump said in Iowa yesterday that he’s thinking about running again.

    PLEEEEEEZE SOMEONE LOCK TRUMP AND PALIN IN A ROOM AND DON’T LET THEM OUT UNTIL THE DAY AFTER ELECTION DAY 2016!!!!!

    FUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!

  51. And why a guy like Bret Stephens would appear with these dumb shits astounds me as well.

    That particular ep of Bill Maher was very uncomfortable to watch. Bret was clearly not having anything close to a good time. Maher kept repeating “let’s move on” instead of actually debating. Nia-Malika Henderson said three words the entire hour and must have been thinking “why am I doing this gig?” The comic who came out later seemed to make even Maher uncomfortable.

    It was not fun to watch.

  52. A couple of the shmales here seem just a tad disappointed over what the sexual revolution as it pertains to the death of millions of innocents has wrought. A great many women have become the equals of men if only in one way. Stupid cows.

    This seems to contradict your second comment accusing me of being a whiner with victim envy.

    I’ll ask you for a clear statement. Do you believe a woman should say she was raped and therefore it is so? Or do you believe a woman should treat a crime like a crime and report it? An answer without a boohoo gif would suffice. 🙂

    Suggest to the victimized men that they not be alone with a woman and the very overblown problem of false allegations of sexual assault will be largely handled.

    It has already come to that in many cases. Some male bosses will not meet with a female subordinate unless the door stays open. But would you suggest your proposed solution is ideal? Should the sexes operate in a constant atmosphere of mistrust?

  53. Thought for the day:

    India is primarily Hindu. I think it’s pretty clear that Hindus have no problem with Jews since they built their capital around a new deli. 😆

  54. Rutherford to your mitt moment in the post. Please don’t feign shock in the light of “inequality” becoming a platform plank for both parties.

    I only used Mitt’s comment as a launching point for my post. But since you went there, let us not forget that Mitt famously said in the 2012 contest that he wasn’t worried about the very rich or very poor. Now he’s worried about poverty.

    Mitt changes positions and priorities as often as I change undies. It’s his fatal flaw.

  55. ”This seems to contradict your second comment accusing me of being a whiner with victim envy.”

    Where’s the contradiction? You’ve realized that the left’s infatuation with a consequence-free society is destructive. And you have a raging case of victim envy of Jews and women. Does that come as a surprise?

    ”I’ll ask you for a clear statement. Do you believe a woman should say she was raped and therefore it is so? Or do you believe a woman should treat a crime like a crime and report it? An answer without a boohoo gif would suffice.”

    I agree with Alfie’s clear enough statements, with one tiny exception which is irrelevant to your questions above.

    ”It has already come to that in many cases. Some male bosses will not meet with a female subordinate unless the door stays open. But would you suggest your proposed solution is ideal? Should the sexes operate in a constant atmosphere of mistrust?”

    Smart boss. Ideal is irrelevant, I live in the real world. Either way I don’t see the big deal. It’s a small and wise adjustment to make to our workplace interactions. An atmosphere of mistrust? What woman is more comfortable with the door shut?

  56. Poolman and some of the rest of you get it. Cosby is a target for reasons having nothing to do with drugs and dick.

    Notice that the whole resurgence of the rape meme was prompted by a standup comedian chiding Cosby not for mysogyny but for hypocrisy. In other words it was prompted by Cosby’s social politics, not by his sexual behavior. If Bill had been any other shuck and jive black comic, the rape thing wouldn’t be a thing.

  57. Now that a Japanese hostage has been beheaded it occurs to me that one of these days ISIL is gonna fuck with the wrong country and get a response no other country would contemplate.

    Weren’t the Japanese bloodthirsty warriors in WW II? Be interesting to see them carpet bomb a couple of terrorist tolerant countries.

  58. “Now that a Japanese hostage has been beheaded it occurs to me that one of these days ISIL is gonna fuck with the wrong country and get a response no other country would contemplate.”

    It’s not about fucking with the wrong country, it’s about fucking with the wrong leader. Obama could carpet-bomb ISIL into the Stone Age if he wanted to.

  59. “Weren’t the Japanese bloodthirsty warriors in WW II? Be interesting to see them carpet bomb a couple of terrorist tolerant countries.” -Japan

    Japan take militery action? Lol. They don’t even fuck their wives over there. Or get girl friends for that matter.

    There is something very wrong about them.

    Sure. Workaholics. The Samurai/Shinto vigor went corporate.

    But outside of the bizarre work ethic, they are into virtual cyber asshattery, dumb fetishes such as women who dress like 8th graders and being soft spoken fembots.

  60. My mother told me the night before I want to college to watch for women. They may appear vulnerable, but they use apparent weakness as a screen to hide their true intentions. In reality, women are avaricious, dishonest, and mean. Be very careful lest a nice woman take advantage of you and you have to support a kid or you are accused of something she initiated and you didn’t do. She said the world is full of good women as it is of good men, but be careful of the monsters hiding behind sweet faces.

    She didn’t tell me, but it applies to children too.

    My NCOIC told us in the Air Force, except when we were taking x rays we should always leave the door open when treating or talking to women. In retrospect, I think that would also apply to men and children .

    Justice, guilt and innocence are flexible concepts. The people in North Omaha have a duty to turn in the gang members who killed three people and wounded five or six. The police promise them protection just as my superiors promised to protect me. But those people know the police cannot watch them 24 hours a day or protect their children or relatives.

    i should have been charged with insubordination by refusing orders to get a hair cut, for shaking my fist in a major’s face, for smashing my NCOIC’s and a Ssgt’s heads together creating eight inch bruises, and for several other incidents. Granted the smashed heads were all in fun, and accidental, but the bruises were an assault. Punishment that should have happened to me did not because my officers felt so guilty over what had happened to me.

    It was another case of “I shot the sheriff.” The bad guys were punished, in some cases, not for what they had done, but for what our officers made it appear they had done.

    Yes, something is wrong with the Japanese, but they are genetically programed the same as when they were Ninja warriors. I read that they are quietly strengthening their military for fear that our protection will be less reliable than in the past.They are as capable of revolution as Europeans or Africans are if the right circumstances develop. I do agree with Huck. There isn’t much sign of any change over there today.

    Justice,guilt and innocence are flexible and selective. Obama would have been impeached in a just world. Hillary would not be considered to be presidential material, and Elizabeth Warren would be scorned for lying about being an Indian for professional gain.Its true Democrats got what they deserved in the last election, but selective justice still protects the president.

    The mob attacks police and Bill Cosby instead.

  61. rutherford – re: Cosby’s persecution being related to his social positions, such as “pull your goddamned pants up,” etc.. Good call. I had never thought of that. Of course the Left and the Parasites are going to go after him!

  62. re: If you don’t report a rape in a timely fashion, you are out of luck. The world is full of these kinds of rules – statutes of limitation, for example. In many countries, if you wait more than two years after an alleged tort occurs (or is discovered), you missed your chance. Otherwise the courts would never stop dealing with junk cases.

    If they are past the age of majority, the “victim” in a rape is not some helpless child. If you ARE a victim, then you need to put on your big-girl pants and get your big-girl-parts examined for semen or other REAL EVIDENCE – not just your word. Yes, you may have been raped six months – or six years – ago, but people recognize that it’s just too easy for some disgruntled, jilted girlfriend to gin up an accusation from the comfort of time and distance. I don’t think that the timely reporting of a crime that could destroy some man’s whole life is too onerous a burden.

  63. @Alfie – I appreciate your idea about “victims” not having to “run the gauntlet.” Victims, however, also have responsibility – the responsibility to come forward, to face their attacker, to file charges. The Nanny State has bred this kind of sand-in-your-craw out of many of the modern women and men. If you want a country of responsible individuals, don’t treat them like children.

  64. But outside of the bizarre work ethic, they are into virtual cyber asshattery, dumb fetishes such as women who dress like 8th graders and being soft spoken fembots.

    The after effects of nuclear attack?

  65. The after effects of nuclear attack?

    I don’t know. But that’s a good theory to test in my book. And I’ve got the perfect candidates to study for our hypothesis of breaking wills. 😈

  66. @ Rutherford do you really find the Atlantic article an interesting look into Cosby’s “conservatism” ? I actually found it more self aggrandizement of Coates who is an asshole. A long article but one not lacking in evidence of the writers belief that he is part of the story being told and that his views are near sacrosanct.
    I also find your assumption that the viral video of Hannibal Buress bit is somehow an orchestrated effort to attack the Cosby “conservatism”.
    Slate had a far more reasonable explanation and one that gels with my opinion on the matter. Digital news had a spark to go after a bigger story and although it has the ultimate goal of crucifying a person,Cosby, it is more about the angle of the “war on women” meme than actually excising Cosby from the black social dialog.
    Cosby’s exploits puts him on par with many blacks (and whites) and the allegations many of which have previously been roundly discredited speaks to your posts position.

  67. Did you guys and gals see Obama was filming an anti-hydrocarbon drilling piece of propaganda while flying on AF1? That plane hold about 51,000+ gallons of fuel. And the video shows all these gorgeous mountains and beautiful streams too. Problem is, the video shot hundreds of miles south of ANWR.

    Remember when Obama said last week the average family will save $750 in gas costs alone, implying he was responsible? Do you want to know how utterly vacuous and disingenuous this man really is, if that weren’t enough to make us gag?

    That video of picturesque majesty? Want to see the real ANWR?

    http://icecap.us/images/uploads/The_Real_ANWR_Story_in_Pictures.pdf

  68. And I’ve got the perfect candidates to study for our hypothesis of breaking wills.

    I’d vote congress, but you’re surely thinking Arab or leftist. 🙂

    I have come to not believe much of the history we were taught as kids. Foremost it maintains cultural preservation over fact. Today’s internet has made knowledge available to anyone seeking it. Though it does much to tarnish our national image, truth ultimately cleanses and frees the mind. It is hardly painless however, as a wise person once said, “For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.”

    From what I have discovered, the necessity for dropping bombs was more along the lines of a study. We had them, now let’s see what they do. It has also been likened to the start of the so called cold war.

    http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2013/08/hiroshima-nagasaki-and-big-historical.html

  69. Rutherford if it happens I’ll let you rent a room from me. My Province options are: New Brunswick from whence my family hails,Nova Scotia because I like it and British Colombia because of some business connections. Let me know.

  70. We are in Omaha, so there is not much time to write. I am proud. Last evening I decided the worst of the storm would miss most of New York City. I believe Central Park had close to eight or ten inches, and some of the eastern regions were zapped, but while they had a good snow, New York City missed the crippling blizzard. Some places to the north could still have two or three feet of snow.

    Likewise, I am beginning to think our grand daughter has nothing wrong with her brain except for physical damage when her head was not getting enough nourishment before she was born. Her speech is a couple of months behind where it should be, but she is advancing pretty fast now. My wife and I noticed a change in the ten days were were gone.

    If Alfie’s part of Canada doesn’t interest you, try mine. Brandon, Man is a nice little city an hour or so from Winnipeg. Winnipeg is on the dividing line between the prairies and the forests. North on Lake Winnipeg, you can visit the summering waterfall etc.

  71. Remember! Those same fine forecasting geniuses that couldn’t forecast snow right 24 hours in advance with the help of satellites and the best weather models, are the same ones Progs put their faith with respect to “global warming” and the end of civilization.

    Yes We Can!

  72. James is right Rutherford and there are a number of job programs that could serve you well in your immigration process.
    So you can bone up if you want:
    O Canada!
    Our home and native land!
    True patriot love in all thy sons command.

    With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
    The True North strong and free!

    From far and wide,
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

    God keep our land glorious and free!
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
    As for news think about me. I have to listen to either the snow news or f@#$ing “Deflate Gate”

  73. We got on the run now!

    The former vice chief of staff Jack Keane of the Army warned the Senate Armed Services Committee today that al-Qaeda has “grown fourfold in the last five years.”

    “AQ and its affiliates exceeds Iran in beginning to dominate multiple countries.”

    Yes We Can!

  74. Last night we spent about 45 minutes watching South Park make merciless (and mostly senseless) fun of Canadians. Although their sendup of in-app purchases on mobile phones was priceless.

  75. I say the penalties for cheating are not nearly severe enough. Based on past cheating, Belichick has no business coaching in the first place.

    I watched Brady at presser and though some say he looked uncharacteristically nervous, I liked him.

    As for the Super Bowl, I couldn’t care less. Simply means football season is over and 60 Minutes starts on time every Sunday. 🙂

  76. Bah. The so-called “past cheating” was a total bullshit. It happened in front of the wholes stadium for Christ’s sake and was such a pervasive practice with such ambiguity in the new rule that it required the NFL to attempt to clarify the rule by a memo issued right before the filming.

    The God-like B & B are squeaky clean I tells ya.

  77. I saw something chilling on of all places The Nightly Show on Comedy Central. The topic was American Sniper and a real sniper said “On one of my deployments in four months I killed 33 men.” I was stunned. Dude freely admitted to serial murder and it was ok cos it happened under the umbrella of “war” and he killed the enemy.

    Under what other circumstances could a man admit to 33 murders on TV. War is some f’d up shit.

  78. “murder – unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being”

    Mmm that’s what I pulled out of my dictionary app. The “unlawful” is what got ya heh?

    I knew if I said “murder” I’d get a bite. If I were a fisherman and you were a trout, I’d get a catch every time. 🙂

    So I guess war takes the “unlawful” out of murder. That’s why I say war is some f’d up shit.

  79. Sure thing, Rutherford. Did the stupidity of what you said sink in when you looked back at it?

    “Under what other circumstances could a man admit to 33 murders on TV. War is some f’d up shit.”

    Sheesh. I dunno. How many “murders” has Obama “admitted to?”

  80. “If one is REALLY pro-life, neither rape not incest are valid reasons for abortion (barring the whole in-breeding medical issues of course).”

    Maybe it’s time you started walking the walk on this. The way you feeeel about abortion or war or any kind of killing is irrelevant.

  81. There are loads of folks who consider Obama guilty of murder. It’s a worthwhile philosophical question to entertain.

    Huck’s comment is right on target too.

    Sorry gang, while “murder” was a poor choice of words, there is something chilling about watching a man say he killed 33 people in four months. My impression was, as a sniper, this was not in “the heat of battle”. It was more cold blooded.

    Hey someone has to do it. I don’t deny that. But it gives me the willies and I submit anyone who doesn’t find it a bit chilling is just strutting macho swagger. That includes you Muffy.

  82. Maybe it’s time you started walking the walk on this. The way you feeeel about abortion or war or any kind of killing is irrelevant.

    You wanna see me in pro-life marches? What is “walking the walk”?

    And seriously why do you have such a hard time with feeeeelings? I doubt you always lead with your head and not your heart.

  83. It doesn’t give me the willies, Rutherford. It is a defense mechanism to keep one’s sanity. The Finn/Sami who shot about 700 Russian soldiers until another sniper shot him was also matter of fact. He said he was just doing what he had been trained to do. I’m not a swaggering macho man. I had a taste of it without bullets only it was in self defense. It was a good feeling but didn’t last long enough.

  84. I believe the Fin killed his share of Russian soldiers in a little over a month. His was the largest number of recorded kills in modern times.

    No snow news here. It reached 54, and we took our grand daughter to the park.

  85. No willies at all. Why would it be different than dropping bombs, shooting shells from a destroyer, releasing a torpedo, leaving a landmine etc., etc., etc. . . ???? I’m sensing your desire to toe the MSNBC/Michael Moore line on this without having thought through your specific objection.

  86. Because it didn’t happen on the teevee, yo. Obama doesn’t pull the trigger himself so his murder count is merely “a worthwhile philosophical question to entertain.”

    Stupid.

    Don’t you macho guys even know a sniper kills because he likes it? It feels tickly. Sensitive types like Mr McFeely here get the willies.

    Stupid.

    Exactly where has your “heart” led you on the subject of abortion, McFeely? To ruminate on other people who aren’t REALLY pro-life because they bother to deal with the reality that women get pregnant against their will sometimes. You pretend you “feel” exactly the same way as Rep Ellmer ACTS yet you claim Roe v Wade is a good compromise. Here’s a hint – if it’s 100% your way, it isn’t a compromise. Here’s another hint – if you’re REALLY with Rep Ellmer on abortion then it’s funny you don’t consider yourself a right wing nutjob. You go apeshit over science deniers when it snows in Atlanta but a life in the womb is just so darn nebulous it can’t be protected.

    Stupid.

    You consistently leave questions you can’t answer to rot and then do your little imp dance when you get a nibble on some stupid shit you dropped to pick up the rhetorical slack around here. Aren’t all those unanswered questions worthwhile philosophical question to entertain?

    Congratulations though on ferreting out the secret to your enviable comment numbers.

    Say the stupid. Be the stupid.

    Better?

  87. Yes of course it has to be the MSNBC Moore line. 🙄

    I find dropping a bomb or launching a torpedo a lot less PERSONAL than shooting an individual. That’s just me.

    I DO NOT CONDEMN these military snipers. They stand between me and getting my head lopped off. With that said, I’ve never looked a man in the face and been told he killed someone, much less 33 in four months. This sniper I saw on TV said he had no regrets … did his job … but still had psychological repercussions when he came home. I think even he, in retrospect, found it chilling.

    Maybe I ought to know a real soldier. I never have. I never discussed things with the Vietnam vets I knew at IBM. Always felt the topic was too painful for them to discuss their experience.

  88. “Hardly. Ask Gosnell”

    Gosnell was convicted of murdering 3 infants who were born alive. That’s not an abortion.

    “I submit anyone who doesn’t find it a bit chilling is just strutting macho swagger.”

    Who says he didn’t find it chilling? Have you watched the film or read the book? Have you considered that he put on the “macho swagger” as a defense mechanism?

    “It is a defense mechanism to keep one’s sanity.”

    I actually wrote that line above before I even read the comment by James.

  89. “There are loads of folks who consider Obama guilty of murder.”

    What about YOU McFeely? We know we know, you never defended Obama’s droning on. But does it……doesn’t it…..GIVE YOU THE WILLIES?

  90. Rutherford thinks he has xray vision into peoples’ hearts. Cripes he doesn’t even have intuition or instinct on a beginner level but he knows what’s in another man’s heart. Through the teevee no less. It’s magical.

    Especially a man so totally unlike himself. He understands that man the mostest.

  91. You pretend you “feel” exactly the same way as Rep Ellmer ACTS yet you claim Roe v Wade is a good compromise.

    What does that even mean? I oppose Ellmer watering down the bill. So, I don’t FEEL like she acts. As for Roe, I don’t think it is terrible law given the never ending war between the two sides.

    Do you support the rape exception, Miss “every life matters”? If so, why? Did the baby do anything to be conceived in rape? Should the baby get a death sentence for the crime of a stranger? If you believe so then you are only pro-life to a point. Why is there something wrong with me because I don’t respect where you draw your line? You obviously don’t respect where pro-choice people draw theirs.

    You’re beyond stupid today. You’re commenting while drunk, a practice I’ve advised you against in the past.

  92. Who says he didn’t find it chilling? Have you watched the film or read the book? Have you considered that he put on the “macho swagger” as a defense mechanism?

    I wasn’t commenting on the protagonist in American Sniper. I was commenting on El Tigre (and Muffy) who have a problem with my “willies”.

  93. What about YOU McFeely? We know we know, you never defended Obama’s droning on. But does it……doesn’t it…..GIVE YOU THE WILLIES?

    No, not in the same way. And it has nothing to do with Obama. It has to do with the impersonal nature of the kill, as I stated earlier.

  94. Rutherford thinks he has xray vision into peoples’ hearts.

    I said I found the snipers account of his killing, chilling. I was making no comment about his heart or mind. It freaked ME out. As I said in an earlier comment, the sniper clearly had psychological scars from his experience. I never said he didn’t.

  95. “I was commenting on El Tigre (and Muffy) who have a problem with my “willies”.”

    I have a problem with your central premise because it doesn’t make sense. And yes, it parrots the Moore crowd that, like you, would use the words, “murder” and “cold blooded” to describe a sniper.

    Now, the real problem is the target not the method. Just admit it. You’re the same guy that considered Obama a hero for “murdering” bin laden in “cold blood” while he used his teevee room to stage photo ops. Swagger, right?

    You wanted to bomb the unholy shit out of ISIS when you heard of the atrocities. No “willies.” What’s different? The target.

  96. Rutherford, you’re just changing your narrative.

    “Under what other circumstances could a man admit to 33 murders on TV. War is some f’d up shit.”

    “Admit” committing 33 murders?

    Cut the shit.

  97. Now, the real problem is the target not the method. Just admit it. You’re the same guy that considered Obama a hero for “murdering” bin laden in “cold blood” while he used his teevee room to stage photo ops. Swagger, right?

    You wanted to bomb the unholy shit out of ISIS when you heard of the atrocities. No “willies.” What’s different? The target.

    I’d say a combo of the target and the method.

    First bin Laden–a specific person who masterminded 9/11. Not comparable to an anonymous enemy soldier.

    Second–bombing the shit out of ISIL is mass casualties and very impersonal.

    A sniper chooses an anonymous target, shoots him and watches him die. That’s gotta be a different kind of experience from dropping a bomb on faceless masses OR going after a specific known target.

    Or maybe I’m compartmentalizing?

  98. “Do you support the rape exception, Miss “every life matters”? If so, why? Did the baby do anything to be conceived in rape? Should the baby get a death sentence for the crime of a stranger? If you believe so then you are only pro-life to a point. Why is there something wrong with me because I don’t respect where you draw your line? You obviously don’t respect where pro-choice people draw theirs.”

    First, “my line” is as irrelevant as yours. There’s only one line that matters and that’s the one that puts the percentage of pregnancies in the US (over a million in 2013 according to Guttmacher) ending in abortion at roughly 20%.

    Second, given that you support any and every reason to abort within very liberal guidelines having nothing to do with science or any other matter of truth – I suggest you can your lecture to me about lines. One percent of aborting women reported they were rape survivors. One percent.

    “You’re beyond stupid today. You’re commenting while drunk, a practice I’ve advised you against in the past.”

    You know what gives me the willies? Reading your screed about innocent babies undeserving of death. Makes me want to vomit actually. So clearly I’m beyond stupid in even engaging with you on this subject when you insist on playing late night rap session with another “worthwhile philosophical question to entertain” you while I try and keep it real.

    I know you think you’ve found a clever way around the fact that you stand with Wendy and would have voted that way had you wound up in Amarillo instead of Naperville. But the truth is you’re only fooling yourself and that’s the stupidest errand a person can run. So congrats. You finally won one. You’re the stupidest.

    Cheers.

  99. “A sniper chooses an anonymous target, shoots him and watches him die.”

    An sniper chooses an enemy combatant hell bent on sending one of our boys home cold to his sobbing mother.

    You need to stick to the polical gossip and late teen athiest chats on AOL.

  100. “Gosnell was convicted of murdering 3 infants who were born alive. That’s not an abortion.”

    I get your point.

    I said “ask Gosnell” because he called it abortion and conversely you (presumably) called it murder. I meant it more tongue-in-cheek than it came off. A throw away.

  101. “Or maybe I’m compartmentalizing?”

    I don’t think anyone knows what you’re doing other than backing away from some dumb liberal blather-point. You unquestionably started out “judging the sniper.” Or were you just being rhetorically proximate?

  102. They underestimated how much Reverend Sharpton was fighting global warming.

    Hilarious. As if Reverend Sharpton gives the slightest fuck about global warming.

  103. First, “my line” is as irrelevant as yours. There’s only one line that matters and that’s the one that puts the percentage of pregnancies in the US (over a million in 2013 according to Guttmacher) ending in abortion at roughly 20%.

    Your line, my line and the line of every voter influences whether or not that 20% is perceived as committing a crime. It’s far from irrelevant.

    I don’t like Wendy and would not have voted for her. I don’t support every reason to abort. Show me where I’ve said anything close to that recently.

    My position which has evolved, whether you choose to believe it or not, is that life of the mother is the only completely legit reason for an abortion. That doesn’t mean I have my finger on the right legal solution to make my “line” a reality.

  104. “I don’t support every reason to abort. Show me where I’ve said anything close to that recently.”

    “I think legally Roe v Wade is a good legal compromise.”

    Rutherford , October 21, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    For three months, any reason is reason enough. That doesn’t sound so unsupportive to me.

    “My position which has evolved, whether you choose to believe it or not, is that life of the mother is the only completely legit reason for an abortion.”

    How has your “position” evolved? Do you know what the word “legit” stands for? Legitimate. Another word for lawful.

    You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth.

  105. That got separated weird. “I think legally Roe v Wade is a good legal compromise” is you, Cartman.

    “For three months, any reason is reason enough” is me in reply.

  106. How has your “position” evolved? Do you know what the word “legit” stands for? Legitimate. Another word for lawful.

    You’ve got me on “legit”. I use it loosely as right (vs wrong) without any legal connotation. The dictionary bears out your meaning although I doubt I am the only one to use the word more loosely.

  107. To address the “three month thing”: since I don’t have a good handle on the legal solution, I think a good start–one that is convincing to the vast majority–is based on viability.

    Wouldn’t you agree that later term abortions are more morally troubling to the average person than early term abortions?

  108. Tex I honestly don’t get your gripe. First, Josh Barro is a right leaning centrist, not a liberal. Second, he’s just making the simple point that labor being labor, just by staying at home, the parent is getting a theoretical tax break. I think his example drives the point home. If two moms trade kids and call themselves “day care” and charge a fee they would pay taxes for the same labor that they would pay no taxes on if they didn’t trade kids.

    I don’t get your issue with this.

  109. Rutherford, first Josh Barro is a frequent guest of MSNBC. “Right Centrist” would not publish something this positively stupid and centrists are not frequent guests on your pet station.

    You missed the main point of the post…are we going to tax stay-at-homes mom now? He had to parse his language just to not pull a hamstring because he knew he was opening himself up for ridicule. But that is what he believes is far.

    Second, if you don’t get the problem with this, you truly are mind numbingly ignorant. Tigre is going to truly rip you a new hole for that one – and it will be deserved. This one is worst than the Ezra Klein guilty until proven innocent you also had no problem with.

    When you pose yourself as this dumb, it’s hard to take you seriously about anything.

  110. “I find dropping a bomb or launching a torpedo a lot less PERSONAL than shooting an individual. That’s just me.” – R

    School and work are picking up, but I saw this and couldn’t keep from making a comment.

    In Canberra, the Parliament–and the Prime Ministers office–have a direct view of the Australian War Memorial. The premise is that he will reflect on the cost of action–or inaction for that matter–prior to committing Australian forces to combat. I like this concept, though admittedly, I never really questioned the appreciation of the President to the forces he commands until Obama came into office.

    But let me flip this for you. Imagine that pilot dropping that impersonal precision guided bomb, and watching it glide swiftly to the target of said bad guy, and then a couple small children run out of a nearby structure towards the unsuspecting target. Or the knowledge that the torpedo you just pulled the trigger on, striking its target and sinking the vessel, likely took hundreds of lives with it.

    The notion of collateral damage provides a sensitized acceptance of innocent life lost. Don’t get me wrong, I accept and recognize that it is often times an unfortunate consequence, usually because of an adversaries actions (our ROEs are pretty sound and extremely conscious of collateral damage, to the point of being a detriment of operations), but that doesn’t change the fact that I’m acutely aware of the impact.

    Snipers provide control. Those 33 would have been confirmed bad guys, engaged in action threatening our forces. Snipers, contrary to what Crisco-Moore might think, don’t live in fortresses, but are inserted into the midst of the enemy, are incredibly vulnerable, and extremely effective in diminishing the combat effectiveness of an enemy force through leadership, man-power, and morale attrition.

    For someone of your political persuasion, you should embrace and champion the sniper, precisely because of the control he provides and the innocent lives he saves.

    As a side note, I think we should carpet bomb Raqqa, Syria–especially the civilian population–because I’m not convinced that they can be unbrainwashed from ISIL and will forever be a threat to modernity. Collateral damage and all….

  111. I was on a base training Laotian, South Vietnamese and Thia pilots and others. Army men were there too. One told me a ten year old or so boy began running toward a barracks, and he told the boy to stop. The boy kept running. The man yelled again but nothing new happened. At the last minute the man shot the boy who blew up with explosives he was carrying. In so doing, the soldier saved the lives of Army troops in the barracks.

    War is diplomacy conducted with weapons. War is Hell. “Your” job is to kill “me” before I kill “you.” It doesn’t matter if it is a bomb from eight miles high, a drone, or personally cutting an enemy’s throat. What matters is that “I” live for another day. Another value code exists in war. What was illegal or immoral in the real world is acceptable, even commendable. Then “you” are snatched from the new world to live under old rules which are often more complex than the new. Its best not to think too often or too deeply upon return.

  112. I agree, Rutherford. Its better that people know of future bad weather instead of being surprised and ignorant. If it doesn’t happen, count your blessings. We know what would have happened had the Weather Service predicted five inches of snow and 30 inches fell.

  113. As you know, some of our allied troops collected slain enemies’ ears. Some dried their trophies and made necklaces. Several people told me Australians started the practice, though I don’t know if it was true.

  114. Rutherford, first Josh Barro is a frequent guest of MSNBC. “Right Centrist” would not publish something this positively stupid and centrists are not frequent guests on your pet station.

    Wrong. Just plain wrong. He is frequently on MSNBC but he is a right leaning centrist.

    His Wiki bio is all over the place but I’m not the only one calling him right leaning:

    “Barro describes himself as Republican, but has expressed opposition to many policies of the current Republican Party. He has written that elites “are usually elite for good reason, and have better judgment than the average person.” He has been described by others as conservative, liberal, and libertarian.”

    As for the article I saw him making a pure intellectual point that comparing those who don’t get a tax break to those that do is faulty in that stay at home parents already get a tax break based on the labor they do.

    You may find the point is a stretch but it’s hardly worth getting a kink in your shorts.

  115. Sometimes things are not what they appear to be. An iconic film of a man cold bloodedly shooting a man in the head was a world-wide symbol of the war and our harsh treatment of the Viet Cong. It was not what it seemed.

    The shooting was primitive justice to repay the man who had just killed the shooter’s wife and children. The reporter later said he regreted recording the incident.

  116. “Barro describes himself as Republican, but has expressed opposition to many policies of the current Republican Party. He has written that elites “are usually elite for good reason, and have better judgment than the average person.” He has been described by others as conservative, liberal, and libertarian.”

    Ignorant. Just plain ignorant. Michael Bloomberg also describes himself as a “Republican.” I think what I dislike most about your ignorance, is that you’re so profoundly assured in it.

    Josh Barro is a late twenty-something gay male who hates conservatives, champions Obamacare, attacks Republicans for wanting to oppose it, supports the tax hikes that come with Obamacare, wants to rid the GOP of social conservatives, and gets fawning pieces of prattle composed by liberals who want everyone to know that their friend Josh Barro is a conservative reformer who wants less conservatism. Barro has never had a job in responsible policymaking or politics of any kind. He has worked no campaigns. He has answered to no constituency. He has enacted no ideas into policy, ever. He is a wholly inexperienced nitpicker and scold of the sort that Theodore Roosevelt admonished us — rightly — to ignore as pitiable and irrelevant. And the sad part is that he’s just the latest in a long line of ‘those cold and timid souls. He left the conservative Manhattan Institute after it became clear he was not a conservative through his support of Obamacare, but uses that connection and being kin to his famous father to segue into not very interesting, slightly shallow “deep think” pieces on conservative reform about which he knows nothing and advocates no such thing. His liberal friends call him conservative because of his prior employer and father and use him as a useful idiot to claim if only Republicans were like him they’d start winning.

    http://www.redstate.com/2013/06/04/on-conservative-reformers/

    to those that do is faulty in that stay at home parents already get a tax break based on the labor they do.

    Do you get this, gang? Because you didn’t pay another individual and did the work yourself, Rutherford now believes any garden you plant, any light you fix, any baby butt you wipe is a tax break that you should be thankful for. Because Josh Barro is “Conservative” and all.

    This is a perfect example of why this country is severely screwed up. The problem with America is it is full of Rutherfords thinking that type of thinking is what passes for purely intellectual thinking. Tragic.

  117. For someone of your political persuasion, you should embrace and champion the sniper, precisely because of the control he provides and the innocent lives he saves.

    First of all, thanks G for the well thought out comment absent of any insult. I truly appreciate it. Second, while I find it hard to “embrace” anyone involved in the practice of warfare, I understand the need for them and I think you’ve made a very good point that I may actually have things backwards. The more “personal” the attack, the fewer innocents actually get hurt.

  118. War is diplomacy conducted with weapons. …

    Excellent comment James.

    Some of you have me pegged for a lib finger wagger. It’s more than that. My disability aside, I’m not cut out for war. I’d piss my pants on day one.

  119. Anything you can claim to monetize at a hypothetical market rate should be deemed taxable? Sacrificing income for family is an unrealized tax revenue for the government? Are you fucking nuts?

    Forget it. Your concept of economics is so fucked up there’s no point.

  120. I’d piss my pants on day one.

    That’s okay. At least you’re honest that you’re a coward. I appreciate honest cowards more than dishonest cowards.

    Michael Moore would piss his pants the minute a SEAL walked into the same room. And I think it high time several of them pay Mr. Moore a visit.

  121. Forget it. Your concept of economics is so fucked up there’s no point.

    That’s right, Tigre. Rutherford believes you’re receiving a huge benefit by your own labor not being counted as income. 😯

  122. Rutherford, your sniper commentary is so naïve it is obvious that (1) you didn’t see the movie, (2) it isn’t a coincidence that you’re discussing your feelings about snipers and the hype surrounding the movie, (3) guys like Howard Dean that hadn’t bothered to watch it before spouting stupid shit like you did guide your thinking, and (4) the safety of MSNBC-speak is permission to just say shit thinking it’s heavy. I hate how easily lead around you are.

  123. Its a tax break because I don’t pay myself to mow my own lawn……..?

    If there ever comes time where there is no check for the Rutherfordians, they have to die. We have to kill them as do slaves rebelling against their masters.

  124. I got to thinking about Rutherford’s “right centrist” MSNBC commentator, and I started thinking about all the taxes the nanny state is being cheated.

    Any seed planted by someone other a corporation – tax break. James and Poolman have got to be in arrears for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of federal taxes for their gardens alone.

  125. Who gave us plants and seeds and called it good? The earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof. Fuck Monsanto. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. The IRS and the FED are both private corporations. Feed that beast that bites you.

  126. Anything you can claim to monetize at a hypothetical market rate should be deemed taxable? Sacrificing income for family is an unrealized tax revenue for the government? Are you fucking nuts?

    If I’m nuts so is the feminist movement, among whom there were some who suggested housewives should get wages.

    This morning Barro discussed the financial loss associated with shutting down the NYC subway. Again he based it on hypotheticals. He has a fetish for this sort of thing. I like people with intellectual fetishes.

  127. “If I’m nuts so is the feminist movement, among whom there were some who suggested housewives should get wages.”

    Point?

    From whom are they to get the wages?

  128. You live long enough and you get to do stuff dreams are made of.

    Coursera is offering “History of the Rolling Stones 1962-1974”. I started the lectures today and it’s great. They will teach:

    1) Stuff I already know.
    2) Stuff I knew but forgot.
    3) Stuff I never knew.

    As a big Stones fan (I have every American release from ’64 to the 90’s) I expect only 10% of the course will fall in category 3 but I’m still psyched.

  129. Look at how many folks we sent to Saudi Arabia funeral vs France and tell me we are not the Saudi’s bitch.

    Speaking of SA, it will warm your hearts to know the late King Abdullah did not like Obama.

  130. R, you gonna try your hand at explaining how “feminism” supports taxing labor rather than income, Comrade? How are housewives to be compensated under your “not nuts” feminist theory?

  131. Ahhh once again you misunderstand me. I said some feminists have advocated getting paid. The answer to your question is pretty damned obvious. The GOVERNMENT would pay them some sort of stipend.

    Now that brings us to the squirrelly idea of how the gov would tax money that it paid out in the first place. Don’t ask me. Go ask Betty Friedan.

    P.S. I lived one floor beneath Ms. Friedan my senior year. I rode in the elevator with her once. She was painfully shy. Or maybe I just smelled bad. Not sure.

  132. re: tax breaks for personal labor. Exactly. That is why in US it is very advantageous for two skilled individuals to help each other on common projects – call it barter, if you will. Each gets the benefit of the other’s skills, but pays no taxes on it. A carpenter, an electrician, a plumber and an excavator assist each other in building four garages – one for each of them. Cuts the tax cost by at least 30% – (figuring labor costs equal to material costs).

  133. Rutherford – Get out your cringe protector:

    God damn! – she had a stroke and nobody noticed! Talk about Obama’s being lost without a teleprompter …

  134. R. you got a cite for your “stipend” theory (whatever that is in this context when no services are delivered to the GOVERNMENT)?

  135. Tigre – Don’t know much about US laws, but I am aware that barter there is technically taxable. It’s easy to come down on it when you are trading tires for piston rings, but a little tougher for the tax man to pin down when you and your buddy are helping each other mow the grass or build a garage.

    Many economists believe that the very best system is a sales tax, not income tax. Easy to implement, easy to collect, and progressive – the more you spend, the more tax you pay. Savers are rewarded; spenders pay tax. Poor folks pay very little; rich folks pay more, but only as much as they want, since their consumption is under their control. It gets the illegal money, such as drug money, gets the church money that is now tax-exempt. The “Fair Tax” is one such system touted.

    Thoughts?

  136. If you were to talk to so called “Progressives” in the U.S., a euphemism for the Party of Greed, Envy and Theft, they would tell you the sales tax is regressive. Of course, they have a point but are then faced with a harsh reality – if sales tax is regressive, social security is regressive too. But proggies don’t want to hear that.

    I actually think sales tax a good idea, if you can exempt groceries, fuel, and pharmaceuticals. But it will never happen.

    That’s why I think so much of business is going underground. Rather than fight the thievery of government, people simply have started doing cash business. I bet there’s a huge undercurrent that deals in cash only. If I were a small business, as much as Uncle Sam screws us, I would be actively seeking ways to marginalize them.

  137. Parker this speech at the Freedom Summit has finally brought conservatives to their senses.

    When I watch excerpts of Sarah’s speech I’m caught between laughing and crying. She’s no longer even stable and the display is pathetic. As I wrote on Facebook, watching Sarah’s latest speech is like watching The Wizard of Oz with the sound off while Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon plays in the background.

  138. No doubt that unverifiable barter lends itself to non-reporting. But it is still deemed taxable income if a bona fide exchange (rather than charity or gift) and Australia where you claim to hail from is the same.

    Fair Tax makes complete sense. It will never happen. Too many Rutherfords with (intentionally) limited understanding of economics and government that translate into a desire to maintain federal bureaucratic control of everything through the tax code. Furthermore, there is a whole sub economy, not the least of which are lawyers and accountants, that profit from the complexity and uncertainty of the current tax code. Can’t put all of these professionals out of work.

    In other words, there’s no hope. I mean, impressed with that article about so-called tax breaks for housewives? Holy sheet. It’s a conceptually perverse and I am certain fully embraced liberal instinct that production and wealth is something is and should be on loan from the government. A straight consumption tax is antithetical to the goals of politicians (control) and the new era of liberalism (Statism). Do you realize that Obama proposed taxing 529 plans (accumulated savings) without a peep from the left? So fucked up.

  139. Palin is a creature of your making Rutherford. I love that you don’t get that. But I guess it feeds your need to feel superior so. . . go get ’em!

  140. Folks get welfare from the government when no service is rendered. At least this stipend would reward work that increases family stability which in turn benefits society which in turn benefits the government.

    BOOYA!!!

  141. “At least this stipend would reward work that increases family stability which in turn benefits society which in turn benefits the government.”

    Huh? Are you taxing it or paying it?

    The “reward” for staying at home already exists. What the fuck are you talking about? The primary purpose of labor is to fund the government? WTF??

    How does taking from income producers to give to stay at home mother’s benefit the one-wage earning working class?

    The mind of an MSNBC lib is a real piece of work.

  142. Tire vs. tyre
    Tire and tyre both mean a covering for a wheel, usually made of rubber. Tire is the preferred spelling in the U.S. and Canada. Tyre is preferred in most varieties of English outside North America. Of course, all English speakers use tire in the sense to grow weary.

    Tigre – Don’t know much about US laws, but I am aware that barter there is technically taxable. It’s easy to come down on it when you are trading tires for piston rings, but a little tougher for the tax man to pin down when you and your buddy are helping each other mow the grass or build a garage.” – Pfake

    Apparently you don’t know much about the Australian lexicon either.

    This is a subconscious tell. You learned to spell a long time ago, so unless you are making a conscious effort to spell something “wrong”, then you’ll spell it the way you learned how to, i.e. in Virginia…

    I’ve been noticing this since I got back from Australia, where I became very conscious of spelling discrepancies between my correspondence and that of my hosts.

    Pface it Pfaker, you’ve been Pfound out…

  143. The Daily Mail reports that Palin’s teleprompter failed and she winged it. Her teleprompter briefly malfunctioned during her 2008 acceptance speech, and she continued because she had a memorized speech before her. In Iowa, she was adrift. I could have done better because I have spoken extemporaniously before.

    Attacking her for an equipment malfunction without comparing her to others like Obama with the same problem is unfair and unworthy of you. You both are better than such cheap shots. Such hatred hurts you more than Palin.She certainly isn’t losing sleep over your hostility.

    It may gaul you to suspect somewhere deep in your hearts the truth which is more apparent each day– that Palin would have been a better president than Obama, even if she was a puppet to advisers superior to Obama’s.

    Some of you are so fearful that the mere suggestion she might run gave you dispepsia. You forgot to notice she still hasn’t resigned from anything. When you go to sleep at night, the monster under the bed is Sarah Palin. I enjoy the show.

  144. Nancy Pelosi asked Obama to reconsider taxing 529 plans because she realized that it would hurt prosperous but not rich Democrats. Were it not for that, they wouldn’t have cared any more than when FDR proposed taxing 100% of rich folks’ incomes. Liberals think what we have worked hard to save and create belongs to the government. They would tax anything that moved if they could get away with it.

  145. The Washington Times “Exclusive: Secret Tapes Undermine Hillary on the Libyan War”. And you simpletons are still obseseced by an irrelevancy like Sarah Palin? You aren’t stupid, but you makes yourselves look like it. Palin would also have been a better president than Clinton.

  146. I don’t remember anybody here worshiping at the feet of Sarah Palin. I do remember at least a few rubes who felt Barack Obama was divine. Oh, how quickly Rutherford forgets…here’s your hypocrisy on display as reminder.

  147. First, James I attribute your Palin comments to your innate kindness. You are at base a kind man. A broken teleprompter is a challenge for anyone — no doubt about that — but it’s how you deal with it. She was damn near incoherent at times. She actually looked drunk at times. Sorry, that is not a broken teleprompter. That’s a broken woman.

    Tex, your video is absurd. Gaffes, which is what the video portrays, is not equivalent to the word salad that spews from Sarah. You literally need to diagram some of her sentences to know what the fuck she’s talking about. And this time, I don’t stand alone as some Palin-bigot. Some of her staunchest defenders want her off the scene because she is an embarrassment. (They would say she has BECOME an embarrassment. I would say she always has been,)

    I’ve been accused in the past of making fun of her disabled kid (which I did NOT do) but I have to tell you, she is looking so “challenged” lately in her public appearances that it is now bordering on cruel to make fun of her. It has long been rumored she has an eating disorder. I think that may be the tip of the iceberg.

    By the way — were it not for bigger topics demanding my blogging space, a few weeks ago I WAS going to write a blog post defending her over the stupid “Trig standing on dog” brouhaha. One thing I CAN say for Sarah — sometimes we over-intellectualize disability. We get too bogged down in it in our heads. She does not have that problem. She is a world class idiot which actually makes her a good mother for Trig since she can be VERY practical about raising him and not over-complicate things as many other parents might do.

    If Sarah were just the neighborhood gossip running the local ski shop, I’d have no problem with her. Hell, I might even like her. Real Housewives of Alaska is where she belongs, not on the national stage pretending she knows how to cure America’s ills.

    Oh and one last thing — hard as it may be to believe, there is someone on the national stage I dislike more than Sarah — Carly Fiorina. She reminds me of a woman I worked with at IBM. Fiorina, in comparing herself to Hillary said “I accomplished something”. Let’s run down those accomplishments:

    1) Got fired from HP — named by some magazine “Worst CEO Ever”.
    2) Got kicked off McCain campaign as surrogate for making a dumb-ass comment.
    3) Lost to Boxer in CA senate race.

    That’s why I’ll be having a chat with Alfie if she ever becomes POTUS. Canada here I come!!!!

    Fuck — I’d WELCOME Palin with open arms as President if Carly is the alternative. I’ve never actually known a Sarah but I’ve known a Carly.

  148. Tex, your video is absurd. Gaffes, which is what the video portrays, is not equivalent to the word salad that spews from Sarah.

    Like Tigre, Rabbit and I have said before. There’s not a standard you can’t double, R. Let’s talk about word salad and diagramming sentences again.

    Anybody want to tell me WTG Obama is talking about when referencing breathalyzer with asthma? That’s not a gaffe – that’s being clueless.

    Why don’t you just admit Obama is as not ready for primetime as Palin and as equally incompetent and smitten with being relevant? Only problem is, Obama actually is in a position where his abject stupidity matters…

  149. “She is a world class idiot which actually makes her a good mother for Trig since she can be VERY practical about raising him and not over-complicate things as many other parents might do.”

    Wow. Spoken like a catty teenage girl. That is flawless irony.

  150. ROTFLMAO — When I saw Ayman Mohyeldin say “killing spree” on TV this morning, I told my wife “Ooooo boy the conservative press is gonna be posting that clip in record time!”

    Tigre proved my point! 😆 😆

    Let’s be clear, the first lengthy discussion of American Sniper that I watched was on, of all places, Comedy Central. The sniper who gave me chills was not Chris Kyle but a guest on Larry Wilmore’s “Nightly Show”. I know nothing about Kyle. I have not seen the film. My only observation which upset all our “patriots” here was how war allows a man to talk about killing 33 people in four months without telling the story from a jail cell.

  151. “My only observation which upset all our “patriots” here was how war allows a man to talk about killing 33 people in four months without telling the story from a jail cell.”

    Yeah we read your stupidity the first time. The fact that you’d repeat something so stupid with defiance makes the point.

  152. I only wish our snipers would turn their rifles where they really belong – on the American Left – the Comedy Central, Bill Maher watching folks.

    Take about 10 of these traitorous cowardly fucks out in one night, and perhaps every one of these POS would make a quick exit to Canada. The thought of Bill Maher’s or Howard Dean’s head being hit with a 50 caliber makes me tremble with excitement.

    And no all you bleeding heart mofos, I ain’t kidding.

  153. “Canada here I come!!!!”

    That’s reason enough.

    I don’t know which is worse, that you believe the garbage you spew or that you spew it to generate comments. Either way, it’s gotten tyred. So very tyred.

  154. “Fast forward to the 4 minute and 54 second mark.”

    What about it? Is this proof you don’t watch MSNBC which has focuses plenty on Chris Kyle, cold blooded murder, racism and all sort of accusations leveled by dickless pajama boy pansies against those that are not?

  155. I don’t know which is worse, that you believe the garbage you spew or that you spew it to generate comments. Either way, it’s gotten tyred. So very tyred.

    Then get lost dear. You’re only adding to my “hits” and you wouldn’t want to do that, now would you?

  156. Is this proof you don’t watch MSNBC which has focuses plenty on Chris Kyle, bla bla bla

    Believe what you want. The Comedy Central piece was the first lengthy discussion I’ve seen on it. This mornings discussion of it on MoJo was one of about only two lengthy discussions of it I’ve seen on MSNBC I think the other was on Hardball.

  157. I found that guy in Comedy Central a hero. Bravery is a subject unknown to you, Rutherford.

    Poor Tigre — gonna vote for a consistent failure just to spite me.

    Consider it returning the favor about consistent failure. You did it to us twice… 🙂 How do you like that “success” over in Yemen Big O spoke about a few weeks ago, Rutherford? Was that before or after the government fell to the head loppers?

  158. I don’t know what you’re trying to prove with the clip, Rutherford. All I see that you’ve done is parrot Moore/Dean/MSNBC shit. Is the heady Comedy Central just doing more of the same? Is that the point?

  159. I don’t care about your hits or adding to them. I just have recently determined that you say stupid stuff expressly to generate comments.

    Am I wrong?

    Skedaddling isn’t a bad idea though, since I don’t come here to read you anyway. I’d mosey over to wherever your original commenters gathered to yammer, but I’ve no more to contribute here than you do.

    This is what you’ve come to – “Palin is still dumb.”

    To which I say, how’s your new job? And you enjoy that Rolling Stone thing-y now, whatever it is.

  160. Geez Rutherford. The only link you offered that talked about government pay to housewives was the Australian piece that just summarized the Giulia Bongiorno Italian piece. The rest are just links to those trying to monetize the value of domestic services — a concept I am fully familiar with since it’s done all the time in tort/wrongful death cases where the value of the services is being compensated and domestic relations scenarios when it comes to equitable division of property among parents in divorce settings.

    Again, anything relevant?

  161. How do you like that “success” over in Yemen Big O spoke about a few weeks ago, Rutherford? Was that before or after the government fell to the head loppers?

    Read Alfie’s blog post on the topic. You’re parroting GOP talking points.

  162. To which I say, how’s your new job? And you enjoy that Rolling Stone thing-y now, whatever it is.

    I’d answer if I thought you were interested.

    When you dislike someone, you shouldn’t visit their house. And this is my house.

    Just point all your friends here to some other place you’d rather be and I’m sure they’ll follow you.

  163. “Tigre, if a man can look you in the face and tell you he put 33 men in his crosshairs and killed them and you yawn then clearly we are on different planets.”

    Oh bullshit. They were enemies and that’s not at all what the interviewee said. Quite the opposite. He said he struggled with it, suffered PTSD and drank liquor from dawn to dusk to cope.

    In any event, every video of a missile hitting a bunker/hideout, surprise gunfire on enemy combatants and terrorists involves this, or the litany of other videos of sneak attacks all over the internet have the same elements. You’re just caught up in the dumb “timid creature” MSNBC narrative ultimately in5tended to vilify conservatives.

  164. Tigre, you seemed to have a problem with Barro monetizing homemaking and any tax implications that might have. I told you the idea was not novel and that it was a feminist preoccupation. You wanted links. You got ’em.

  165. He said he struggled with it, suffered PTSD and drank liquor from dawn to dusk to cope.

    Go back and read the thread. I acknowledged that he said that. In fact, the only one blasé is you. He is haunted by what he did, as well he should be. Whether you like it or not, war turned him into a killer. I don’t celebrate that. He doesn’t either. Only you do.

  166. Oh, me yawn. I see. I should’ve called him a cold blooded, murdering, racist like you did.

    Ahhh threw in “racist” for good measure. Do judges let you introduce facts not in evidence, counselor?

  167. Rutherford has become a troll on his own blog.

    Little pussified quips he backs away from. Or bull shit he chums the water with out of boredom.

  168. “Read Alfie’s blog post on the topic.”

    😆 You are sooooo predictable. Tell him Alfie!

    Why don’t you tell him, Palin?

    When you dislike someone, you shouldn’t visit their house. And this is my house.

    Just point all your friends here to some other place you’d rather be and I’m sure they’ll follow you.”

    Haha. My house!

    Nice “house” Rutherford. I love what you’ve done with it. How are the schools?

    I come here to learn the wisdom of the mindless MSNBC zombie butt. It helps me prepare for when wiseass shut-ins will start to get paid for their bloggie labors.

  169. “I don’t celebrate that. He doesn’t either. Only you do.”

    Oh my God. Go back to your MSNBC where it’s all comfy for you. You’ve already convicted yourself. It’s just getting embarrassing at this point.

  170. “Tigre, you seemed to have a problem with Barro monetizing homemaking and any tax implications that might have. I told you the idea was not novel and that it was a feminist preoccupation. You wanted links. You got ‘em.”

    You did no such thing whatsoever. I told you exactly what my “problem” was. Now that you realize you can’t address the taxation and government payment part, it’s certainly no surprise this is what we get.

    Sad.

  171. If I am parroting talking points, it’s by chance. Because I’m laughing at the Left’s superior intellect and have been since Obama and Hillary reset Russia. To the USSR.

    Give it to me in a nutshell. I don’t even care to look or read the bullshit anymore. It all sounds the same after seven years – you’re still telling me Obama is mediocre. What degree of liability do you and Alfie cover for Obama’s abject stupidity this time?

  172. Now that you realize you can’t address the taxation and government payment part, it’s certainly no surprise this is what we get.

    I told you at the outset I couldn’t justify the gov taxing money that it paid out itself as a stipend. Do I need to go back and quote myself?

    You seem to forget the whole thing started by Tex getting irked at what was simply some intellectual meandering by a CENTRIST.

    And you have yet to concede the paid-for-labor angle which was Barro’s entire thrust.

  173. Tex, Alfie makes the point, if I understand him correctly, that we were indeed droning the shit out of terrorists in Yemen and to that extent our campaign in Yemen, cooperating with their government, was successful within limited scope.

    If it was our job to prop up the Yemeni government then we failed. But that is not what Obama was referring to when he talked about a successful approach.

    MUFFY I referenced Alfie’s blog because frankly I have enough self awareness to know most folks here respect his opinion more than mine.

  174. There’s nothing to concede. That is not a common feminist meme in Italy or ‘Merica — the country we were talking about. And even if it were some common “feminist meme,” that would only be more proof that your nuts.

    That “intellectual” article was just stoooopid. Your inability to see why predictable. You really, really, really don’t get it. Another reason I’m all in favor of your move to Canada.

  175. Or bull shit he chums the water with out of boredom.

    It’s as much a place for me to hang as it is for you. If, out of boredom, you come here to share your hunting exploits why can’t I pop in to mention my Stones course? Or are you referring to some other bullshit?

  176. Mitt is indeed still rich (like Clinton, Bush and many of the others). The better question is can Mitt do a better job of showing the voter who he is without their having to watch his Netflix movie first (which btw I plan to do).

  177. Rutherford I found the Barro piece to be quite the pile of feces. Barro is a delusional self proclaimed intellectual who has a circle of peers that stroke this. It is the double edged shame of what passes as intellectual op/ed work these days. Instead of asking a question or pondering an idea folks like Josh come of as elitists know it alls who in the final analysis know very little.
    As much as a find any criticism of the credit as being unfair to stay at homes as inane I found Joshie to be ham fisted in his attempt to make something out of nothing AND like many folks completely missing the true dynamics behind staying at home or working.
    Two wage earners run a spectrum as to why and how well they do it after the tykes make the scene.
    Likewise stay @ home is neither a tax break or a source for taxation.

  178. “I pop in to mention my Stones course? Or are you referring to some other bullshit?”

    Nah…I actually don’t mind the Stones course bit.

    Its the new cat and mouse game you play now.

    Throw a little MSNBC out there that you know you can’t defend. Then be ambiguous as all hell. Run from it. Dart back in its direction. Head fake. You are a sickly Angel Fish in a drab dentist office.

    Look man. I’m with you. I don’t have the energy. Besides, my mind is made up like everyone else’s. Debate is dead.

    Quit acting like a parlor aristocrat with your innuendo and naughty fanning.

    You talk shit about the sniper and pretend you don’t, you fucking wackasourus.

  179. You’re a Netflixs customer? Shocker.

    “Ahhhh that will give me a chuckle to last all evening.”

    Ahhhh I’ll have my own chuckle picturing you stumbling around your former fabulush home sobbing and trying to make love to the garbage disposal one last time.

    sniffle

  180. “Throw a little MSNBC out there that you know you can’t defend. Then be ambiguous as all hell. Run from it. Dart back in its direction. Head fake…”

    . . . officer Wilson raises his gun. . .

  181. You’re a Netflixs customer? Shocker.

    This back and forth becomes weirder by the minute. Educate me as to what demographic being a Netflix subscriber puts me in.

    Ahhhh I’ll have my own chuckle picturing you stumbling around your former fabulush home sobbing and trying to make love to the garbage disposal one last time.

    I’m pretty sure I’ve shared on this blog that having to sell my home was like a death in the family. I wasn’t being melodramatic. Before I left the house for the last time I was sobbing. Your comment was a particularly low blow.

    My current not so fabulush abode also has a garbage disposal.

    You’re crossing the line from acerbic to cruel.

  182. The only reason its not surprising is because of the golden rule: the Obama administration is ALWAYS LYING OR ALWAYS WRONG.

  183. Alfie I agree with you to a point about Barro. As I said earlier in the thread I think Barro has a fetish for intellectual gyrations. Where I disagree with you is I don’t find him self-aggrandizing. And I love the fact no one can pin him down. Is he a lib? Is he a conservative? Is he a libertarian? I’d like to think he’s a free thinker.

  184. “Your comment was a particularly low blow.”

    You’re going spotlight my speech as crossing the line to cruel? Get real you psycho.

    You don’t seem to understand that your feelings are no more important than mine or anyone else’s. I don’t believe for a second that you need this spelled out to you but you’ve been pissing on what I hold dear for years and you know it. You love a fucking pile of bricks and wood, bub. So spare me the wounded routine.

  185. You need another clue, Teletubbie. When you apologize for something and then chuckle about it every chance you get – you’re probably full of shit.

  186. I don’t believe for a second that you need this spelled out to you but you’ve been pissing on what I hold dear for years and you know it.

    What you hold dear? For years?

    Yeah I need it spelled out cos you’re so out in left field I really think you’ve lost it. Do we KNOW each other? Seriously.

    As for the pile of bricks and wood – it was a symbol of achievement. Having to sell it was a symbol of failure. The only thing worse would have been foreclosure. That gave me some small solace.

    And no I didn’t prize the house over my Dad. I’m not that psycho. Losing him was far more devastating. Just in case you’re mounting the “materialistic jerk” offense.

  187. Looks like Rutherford’s getting a scolding once again. What a glutton! What a maroon! I tell you what, Rutherford. I’ll put a little smiley like so 🙂 if I’m joking. That way you’re not confused. Okiedoke? 😆 Some folks need to be designated drivers after all.

  188. When you apologize for something and then chuckle about it every chance you get – you’re probably full of shit.

    Ehhh you called me “clit-o” after a loooong protracted brouhaha over it that I thought had ended. Yeah, sorry but that was funny … or maybe just strange.

  189. Swell cartoon you posted there in the Hedbo thread Droolman. Pfaker and Rutherfrau loved it.

    I, on the other hand, hope that you get your fucking head stuck in the pool filter and it sucks your idiot eyeballs out so you can’t prowl the internet for pfake videos you pathetic loser.

  190. If it was our job to prop up the Yemeni government then we failed. But that is not what Obama was referring to when he talked about a successful approach.

    What kind of an answer was that? Gibberish. What in the hell success was Obama referring to then in Yemen? I can’t wait to hear this.

  191. Thanks for the complement, Rutherford. I could have done better than Sarah Palin or the president when he stumbled for that matter. My family is full of Sarahs, and some remind me of Palin.
    The family didn’t throw things away for generations. Thus, I have many family pictures and stories. My great great grand mother Sarah looked like a fashion model. Her college autograph book tells us she was smart, and so outspoken her professors were a little afraid of her. She also wanted to do great things but didn’t know how to proceed. Several professors told her she should teach, considering her verbal gifts.

    One woman wrote “Do you remember the river and how we used to “interview” near the end of the day? Do you remember the evening two shadowy figures came out of the brush? I won’t bore you with what you already know, but on warm sunny evenings remember me and that evening.” Say What?

  192. We just got home from Omaha. Something odd is happening to our grand daughter. It started when I was home and my wife was in Omaha with the kid. Over the past couple of weeks, she has begun to speak words with such frequency she is using as many as four or five new words a day. She is still behind, and doesn’t use phrases, yet, but she understands more than she says.

  193. For you, Rutherford. This song still makes my wife teary.

    I understand about the house. I felt the same way about our farm. I inherited some of it and bought the rest from my brother. We also bought other land. We couldn’t let the land go, though many did during the farm recession because we would have betrayed our ancestors.

  194. “Ehhh you called me “clit-o” after a loooong protracted brouhaha over it that I thought had ended. Yeah, sorry but that was funny … or maybe just strange.”

    I didn’t mean it as an insult. Why would you think that? You thought it was funny when droolman and Huckhead joked about the filter after we thought it had ended. I was just trying to make you laugh after you got so bent over me pegging you for the troll-y sniper hokum. If I’d said peen you wouldn’t have known I was knocking your blog housekeeping after panhandling for a donation.

    I never even gave your daddy a thought, nor did it occur to me that you’re a materialistic jerk. I know exactly why you wanted to hump your mansion. As it is you’ll have to settle for your remote, psycho.

  195. The Lynch confirmation hearings are interesting anyway. Hearing the greatest hits about how our own AG terrorized our own people is a nice respite from how Islamic terrorists are slaughtering anywhere from dozens to hundreds practically daily in faraway lands.

  196. Yeah I heard a bit of it. Woman seems very articulate. I saw her avoiding hypotheticals for which I don’t blame her.

    IF you guys are upset that she isn’t opposing Obama policy then that’s kinda silly, no? She’s an Obama appointee.

  197. No rush to watch Romney’s Netflix biopic. Looks like he dropped out before he jumped in.

    Probably a good mature move on his part. The RL research staff conjectures Bush may have promised him a cabinet post should we get Bush 45.

  198. I’m not sure how I feel about the dynasty issue. Bush 41, 43 AND 45? I dunno.

    So far from what I’ve seen I’d vote for Jeb over HRC but not tell my wife. Of course you guys no doubt think he’s a RINO. If they don’t breathe fire, you guys don’t like them.

  199. We no doubt think you’re a liar. You will unflinchingly vote for whatever candidate MSNBC pushes, including HRC.

    Pitch your fit now. We’ve seen your sophistry in action.

  200. I will not speak for James, but I am pretty confident “seems articulate” is not a standard that satisfies him as it apparently does you when it’s a liberal drone.

    Are you familiar with Lynch’s position on jobs and illegal immigrants? I guess she “articulated” an answer. It just happened to be unconstitutional and dead wrong (two standards you give no thought to whatsoever).

    How about her position on executive amnesty? She said she supported but never articulated why? Any ideas?

    Loretta Lynn is a better nominee.

  201. Yes, Loretta Lynch was articulate – more impressive than the criminal Holder. No, she’s not fit to hold the office because she is immoral and unlawful – and she most definitely has little respect for the country; a perfect Obama clone appointee – wait until the bombshell drops she don’t like pinky any better than the criminal Holder either.

    But Ms. Lynch is black and she’s female and that makes her as bulletproof as our first Failed, Black, Unlawful, Immoral President. This is what you get when 60% of the country is utterly clueless in affairs and your populace driven by shallow emotions and wants feel good platitudes and soundbites to make the decision easy. Hollywood! da da da da da Hollywood!

    But these same voters just can’t seem to put a handle on why the palpable feeling of doom still exists with all these spectacular leaders they’ve elected as their own lives get appreciably worse.

    Has to be white males that are the problem.

    So, I expect Ms. Lynch to receive an overwhelming vote of support – and the country to sink further into corruption and the abyss during this horrid and disgraceful years under the biggest sham ever foisted on the Western World remains in office.

    Mitt Romney made the right decision – this country doesn’t deserve someone of his caliber for President. It’s needs to expert such a shock to the system, such calamity, that perhaps it wakes up before it too goes the way of the Roman Empire… but I expect the same populace to blame Bush when it happens.

  202. G funny thing. I am on a BMW i3 forum on Facebook and the Brits there kept putting “tyre” in their posts to describe those rubber things we ride on – just as you said in your earlier comment. 🙂

  203. G, there’s so many other things Pfesser fucks up too. My favorite is when he takes a phrase born of gross Americana, ones never said in Australia (yes, I too have a basis to know), and changes a word or two to make appear Australian. For example, he might take the phrase “going to see man about a horse” and revise it to “going to see a man about a joey.” Priceless.

    I remember when he was giving instructions to Tex about building something to code (rafter supports??) using inches, feet and pounds rather than metric. He messed up US to AUS currency exchange rates recently after making remarks about his frequent back and forth.

    But I must admit, it sure is compelling when he can locate a Wikipedia article to explain why restating a forgotten Pfesser comment as “Parker” verbatim is pure chance. I’m still waiting for the invitation to a spelling contest Pfesser forgot he used over and over believing we’d find it fresh and clever.

  204. R you live in Illinois I think you can bring folks into the booth with you

    They tell me in Cook County, if you live South of the tracks, you can push the vote Dim button numerous times, sometimes in between shootouts. Philly too.

  205. Ms Lynch may be as articulate and forceful as Democraties. Her beliefs matter more, and they disqualify her. She said the president can grant amnesty without consulting or getting legislation from Congress. The president can use prosecutorial discretion to refuse to support laws passed by Congress. She also said that the right and obligation to work is universal whether or not the person is here legally.

    Our son and daughter in law live in California. Illegals are going to the head of the line for drivers licenses.

  206. Seriously folks on what front is the economy improving? I read an article that the Dems are all about getting that message out and I’m just beside myself saying WTF in stereo.

  207. Seriously folks on what front is the economy improving? I read an article that the Dems are all about getting that message out and I’m just beside myself saying WTF in stereo.

    Smart money says the economy is teetering. I’ll assume it’s psychology, Alfie. People see cheap gas and it feel “richer,”, perhaps got a little more in the 401k. It’s a facade. Like Obama. But people in America today are stupid. Do you know Obama’s approval rating is up 10 points since the election? What has he done? Gas prices? Obama is an impediment to cheap energy. Stepped all over the Constitution. And that’s it. The average rube in America doesn’t have a clue, Alfie.

    Guess they haven’t gotten the news oil was up 8% today. 😈

    To answer your question, what I am seeing is thousands of high paying petroleum based jobs disappearing each week. Today, my old employer laid off 2,000. To the best of my knowledge, it was their first layoff ever. It will take about eight weeks for 90% of the country to notice. But the fall is coming.

  208. Gas was up 10 cents a gallon from yesterday. I figure it will creep back up to at least where it was. No matter, if you need it you will pay what it costs. It’s been a nice change to see a fill up force so many to smile.

    Speaking of smiling, it’s good to see that not all the French are lining up behind the ‘I am charlie’ fascist parade. Some actually defy them.

    One guy is particularly in their face.

    Often it takes comedy to put things in their proper perspective.

    As to the overall economy, I don’t see consistent improvement. If you are involved in the war industry, things couldn’t be better. But there are no new industries that will transform us into a stable marketplace. Many profit from the boom and bust cycle they create. I don’t see the dollar holding its value for that much longer. Faster still all paper promissories will become rubbish. There has been too many artificial resuscitation events over the last several decades. Value will shift as folks start to scramble and scream.

  209. So, Rutherford, do you think Palin had a stroke there, or was just acting perfectly in character? It’s really too bad that the Republicans can’t just admit they made a huge mistake and dump her.

  210. I agree that Palin is toast, Parker. I wish she would go away – she’s overstated her welcome. The problem I have with Rutherford is he can’t say the same about an equally incompetent fraud named Obama, who he’s trying to forget. 🙂

  211. Crude needs to return to its real value – I say in the $65-$75 range, gas $2.50-$3.00. I think that’s the real equilibrium point. The Sauds are desperate at this point – they didn’t ever count on hydraulic fracking making this kind of a difference and their butts are hanging in the wind with the head loppers encircling them.

    And to be honest, neither did I. The U.S. production numbers are incredible. And zero thanks to Obama and the rest of the human slugs who elected that charlatan. You Leftists ought to be kissing driller ass right now. Without it, Obama really would be toast.

  212. Agreed, Tex – He’s really bad – (Obama, not Rutherford). Innocent of the very fundamentals of accounting, finance, and monetary policy. All he knows is that, if ‘I “need” money to “help people” – (viz, buy votes), I just take it from people who earned it, because I have the power to do so.’

    He missed the second part of the equation – those people he took it from will simply quit working. What part of “East Germany” doesn’t he understand?

  213. Tex same thing happened in the sand fields in Canada. They spin it that it’s an adjustment thing but 1000 jobs is 1000 jobs.
    I can’t rember off the top of my head but isn’t gas at the pump reflective of crude 90 days ago?
    Here in my neck of the woods consumers are spending but paying full price. The jobs market feels tight with especially blue collar work showing wage deflation. Health care is a big bite in the ass and along with college costs I think (know personally) folks who are stunned.

  214. Today, my old employer laid off 2,000. To the best of my knowledge, it was their first layoff ever.

    Your old employer is just joining the club Tex. Are they straight layoffs or are some of the jobs going overseas (things like project management)?

    Layoffs are the panacea to poor business strategies which lead to reduced profits.

  215. Parker scroll up the thread and you’ll see my “analysis” of Palin. She’s gone from embarrassing to damaged, more deserving now of sympathy than ridicule. Something’s not right there. I think in the end history may record that the McCain campaign exploited her.

  216. Smoke and mirrors, Rutherford. How about this? I’m sure the main stream media is all over this story… 🙂

    ISLAMABAD: Yousaf al Salafi – allegedly the Pakistan commander of Islamic State (IS) or Daish – has confessed during investigations that he has been receiving funds through the United States.

    Law enforcing agencies on January 22 claimed that they arrested al Salafi, along with his two companions, during a joint raid in Lahore. However, sources revealed that al Salafi was actually arrested sometimes in December last year and it was only disclosed on January 22.

    “During the investigations, Yousaf al Salafi revealed that he was getting funding – routed through America – to run the organisation in Pakistan and recruit young people to fight in Syria,” a source privy to the investigations revealed to Daily Express on the condition of anonymity.

    Al Salafi is a Pakistani-Syrian, who entered Pakistan through Turkey five months ago. Earlier, it was reported that he crossed into Turkey from Syria and was caught there. However, he managed to escape from Turkey and reached Pakistan to establish IS in the region.

    Sources said al Salafi’s revelations were shared with the US Secretary of State John Kerry during his recent visit to Islamabad. “The matter was also taken up with CENTCOM chief General Lloyd Austin during his visit to Islamabad earlier this month,” a source said.

    Al Salafi also confessed that he – along with a Pakistani accomplice, reportedly imam of a mosque – was recruiting people to send them to Syria and was getting around $600 per person from Syria.
    “The US has been condemning the IS activities but unfortunately has not been able to stop funding of these organisations, which is being routed through the US,” a source said.
    “The US had to dispel the impression that it is financing the group for its own interests and that is why it launched offensive against the organisation in Iraq but not in Syria,” he added.

    There are reports that citizens from Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India besides other countries are being recruited by the IS to fight in Syria. Posters and wall chalking in favour of the IS have also been seen in various cities in Pakistan.

    Published in The Express Tribune, January 28th, 2015.

    I see some got it:

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/28/isis-commander-claims-he-has-been-receiving-funds-through-the-u-s/

    http://rt.com/news/227195-islamic-state-us-funding/

  217. I can’t rember off the top of my head but isn’t gas at the pump reflective of crude 90 days ago?

    When I was working with refiners, Alfie, it was more like 30 days. But the last decade, I have often noticed that gas prices at the pump seem to reflect the deviation in crude immediately – up much faster than down. 🙂 Some of that is due to technology.

  218. Are they straight layoffs or are some of the jobs going overseas (things like project management)?

    Straight layoffs – though many of the drilling rig folk are foreign workers (mostly South American).

    Layoffs are the panacea to poor business strategies which lead to reduced profits.

    Sometimes. But not always. Obviously, this is a pretty well run company, being they have never had to lay off through all the ebbs and flows of crude prices over 80 years. The culture of the company changed when Wall Street forced the company to sell business segments – it was no longer a “family owned” business. That was about twelve years ago.

    But I don’t think anybody expected within a matter of months, their revenues would be less than half of what it was 3-6 months before.

    Like Alfie, I think this is sending a signal – the world economic market is teetering. Along with the strengthening of the dollar, the reason I suspect this is within a very short time, there is a glut of crude oil; partly due to higher production from U.S. reserves – and part of it is demand has been reduced quickly and quietly.

    Something is up (or down in this sense).

  219. R – you’re not serious about the “poor business strategies” being responsible for layoffs, are you? Maybe an isolated company here and there, but in a capitalist economy those things are filtered out every minute of every day by competition. There is only one way to have such things nationwide – and that is through bad business practices by their government.

    re: world market teetering. That is a very widespread opinion among the the Austrian School economists right now. Of course, the Keynesians are deliriously happy. I vote Austrian. Tex – you ever read anything about “Ol’ Hickory?” You talk about a man’s man! See what he did when they tried to start a federal bank system. I’m surprised he didn’t shoot somebody.

    http://www.amazon.com/Andrew-Jackson-His-Life-Times-ebook/dp/B000MAH5K6/ref=pd_cp_kstore_0

    Cost you twelve bucks. Great for those windswept winter mornings in Tulsa.

    re: McCain exploited Palin. I think it is the other way around. I was always struck by the way McCain just quit campaigning the last couple of weeks. One train of thought is that he discovered something, or was made aware of it – maybe something shattering – and decided, as a pretty good guy, to spare the country the trauma of having it exposed. Or he slowly realized that in the rush to find a good running mate, he and his handlers had fallen for a pretty face, a tight bottom, and an empty head.

    Not the first time it’s happened.

  220. Since Rutherford is the only Leftie left after Obama’s gross incompetence has left them running for the high weeds, I wonder if bothers any of them who “lurk” that this most transparent administration in history is also leaving this legacy?

    Hate to keep picking on you Rutherford, but you got any thoughts on this?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/01/29/sharyl_attkisson_if_you_cross_obama_admin_they_will_treat_you_like_enemies_of_the_state.html#ooid=FzbnEyczorqm4IqInnRK-64DgVpvtWAe

  221. Quick one – Local media notes that Romney bowed out, saying that, basically: 1) he was the most qualified candidate, and 2) he probably couldn’t win.

    Both almost certainly right. Which really makes one wonder if USA shouldn’t revise its voter qualification laws.

  222. @ Tex yeah I’ve rerouted a portion of my investments recently including taking money out with an eye on household liquidity. I have no European exposure except for a global mutual fund and that has flipped its course from being majority foreign companies to US.

  223. Of all folks I can’t say I am disappointed with Romneys bowing out. I will forever view him in the sense of Frosts poem The Road not Taken in that the country had the opportunity to do something really good for itself and chose not to.
    With that said I am now pondering whether America and the world needs the US to go full right rudder hard for a shock treatment or go center right and count on that nudge in many ways still being cataclysmic and cathartic.

  224. Sarah Palin was the most popular governor in the US, or at least close. She had several successes which earned her that popularity. Palin was an intelligent, folksy red neck in a rural setting which made her exotic to most people unfamiliar with the culture.

    McCain was an old white man who wanted his friend Joseph Lieberman to run with him. His managers told him it couldn’t happen. Obama was the first black man with a chance to win. He was charismatic and exotic with a hazy past. McCain needed flash to counterbalance Obama, and another bland white man with Democratic credentials would not succeed. His with wings of lead beneath McCain’s feet would sink them both..

    Bill Kristal and several others campaigned for Sarah, because she was everything the others were not. For one thing, Sarah had more executive experience than all of the candidates combined unless one counted McCain’s tenure as an aviation squad leader which was marginal experience.

    Nobody had the charisma and star power except for Obama. She was an attractive, vivacious woman, the next best thing to a “clean and articulate” black man. Obama’s roots led to Kenya and Islam. Palin’s were Inuit. Her husband is part Eskimo. McCain didn’t especially want her, but arguments in her favor were overwhelming.

    She made such a good acceptance speech including a small flub when her teleprompter malfunctioned for a moment or two, that a blogger overheard a Democrat at the convention tell another that “We have 72 hours to destroy her” or something to that effect. As a result of liberal fear, Democrats and the press converged on Alaska looking for anything which would destroy Palin. Democrats in Alaska provide information about the political and social interrelationships in Alaska which resemble those of a small town. They even went through her trash.

    McCain’s prospects rose during the campaign because people were coming to see Palin, not him. Palin and Obama were polar opposites, shining stars of the campaign. Who wanted to see McCain or Biden when Obama and Palin shone like music or movie stars.
    Polls before the crash showed the race tightening and some even put the McCain-Palin ticket ahead.

    The crash changed everything, of course, McCain didn’t see something in Palin to convince him to throw the election, He panicked Pictures of Bush, Pelosi and the other bipartisan group of politicians who met to cope with the disaster appeared sober and ashen faced. They were frightened.

    McCain canceled his campaigning to go to Washington to fix the disaster, but he couldn’t. He appeared to be like an erratic old man while Obama exuded cool and calm McCain thought he could save the country. It had nothing to do with sacrificing the election to save the country from Sarah Palin.

    Liberals knew Sarah Palin was aggressive and effective. Her Republican handlers also didn’t understand her, and they thwarted her combative instincts. For example, the campaign abandoned Michigan, but Palin wanted to continue to campaign there and fight for the state. Fellow basketball players called her Baracuda for a reason.

    McCain’s campaign exploited Sarah Palin as Rutherford wrote because she was their best chance of winning an election against the virtual rock or movie star Obama.Sarah Palin was a fish out of water, and she saw an opportunity to become a national star. She didn’t understand the sharks circling her.

    Sarah Palin was an asset to the campaign. She was smart and had good instincts. Palin would have been a better vice president than Joe Biden, and she would have been a better president than Obama. Those are the facts based on conjecture about Palin’s hypothetical performance. I have written some of this before, and yet some of you act as though you have never read the facts.

    Yes, I am kind and polite, but I am also arrogant when I know I am right. I understood the worst of the storm would miss New York City when I looked at the conditions late Monday. I knew the Clovis Point was not the oldest example of Paleo Indians in America when the established Science was as locked as Al Gore’s global warming. I also knew Neanderthals were smarter than orthodoxy told us, and suspected we carried their genes before research showed it to be true.

    I “knew” there was a cultural connection between Sami and Native Americans, and I thought Indians had Europeans in their linage. They do. Another group of mystery EuroAsians shares genes with western Europeans and Native Americans. Native Americans don’t look so much like their Asian forebears because they share European genes too. Early people here didn’t look as they do now. One reason was that Indians like the Fins and Sami were isolated for so long that they mutated their own genetic traits.

    Now, a big storm is threatening us, and once again, I am ahead of the meteorologists here.one or two inches has turned into a possible 11 inches with blizzard conditions.

    I am not bragging. I am stating facts. One doesn’t have to be especially smart to watch the signs and make conclusions about smarter people’s work. I was right about those issues, and I am right about Sarah Palin. I wouldn’t have voted for her, but I respect her as an accomplished, determined, and intelligent woman who deserved better than she got. She was out of her depth just as we would have been.

    I agree with Parker and Rutherford (earlier) that many people who vote shouldn’t.

    if some of you persist with obsessive comments and put downs, I will post another video.

  225. I respect Alfie’s intelligence and judgement. My vote is for a hard right turn. It would either save or destroy us. Such a shift would be a tremendous gamble. I’m not sure we have the military strength or follow through talent to back it up.

  226. I’m actually glad Romney bowed out, though I still think Romney would have made a very good President and was exactly what America needed at this place and time – is there anybody of late anyone can think of running for President that has been brighter and more attuned to job creation than Romney? I’m still stunned Americans were that stupid.

    Was that not the number one priority of Americans in 2012, or so we were told? Too late. I hold little hope for this country as long as 51% of the people are dumber than Barack Obama. Barack Obama didn’t even market an economic agenda. None.

    There’s a lot more to this Barack Obama fairy tale than meets the eye. This man is grossly unqualified to hold any position of authority and expertise. Nobody even remotely intelligent can even debate that very visible fact now. I don’t mean to sound like Poolman’s twin brother, but you guys and gals tell me. Does it not appear that the grooming of Barack Obama, a man of marginal talents but a gift for gab, was completed over a extended period of time? As if there were some really smart people working behind the scenes to groom a minority puppet for their molding?

    Think about this. An unknown black man penning two autobiographies? A man given $100MM in his mid 20s to distribute as fledgling community activist? No record of accomplishment or success other than some hidden record of enormous academic intellect? No accomplishment as Jr. Senator? Virtually a blank slate that our corrupted media never even bothered to vet? A member of a Black Liberal Theology Church that hates white people and America? And over half the country doesn’t even bat an eye?

    The whole sordid affair doesn’t pass the sniff test. If an intellectual black man was what Americans felt we needed to proceed and “repair the damage” George Bush had and has done according to the Left, you tell me who is more capable?

    Barack Obama, or a man that was head of the Pediatric Neurosurgery Dept at one of America’s most well thought of Schools of Medicine? Why isn’t the media falling all over themselves about Dr. Ben Carson then?

    It’s not a matter of if America collapses into chaos. It’s simple a matter of when.

  227. Alfie, saw this over at AQ. It matches to a tee something I have said since 2006. I fear the (admittedly basic) premise applies to more than just war. I think of my children and it truly worries me. My father whose wisdom I admire greatly worries. . . and that worries me more. Self correction will require a catastrophe at this point IMO.

    Whatcha think guys?

    http://minx.cc:1080/?post=354671

  228. It’s not a matter of if America collapses into chaos. It’s simple a matter of when.

    FEMA and Alex Jones are ready for that. 🙂 It has been engineered. You are right about the grooming of our latest POTUS and the way propagandists sway the masses. It is a science. We attribute high acclaim to the sciences. Too bad we frequently miss the big picture. In the west, fear enables control and Stockholm syndrome maintains it. They have beat us down over many generations. Kept us dumb and happy in a patriotic sort of way. Embedded within our core a ‘one for all and all for one’ belief and nationalism as base camp . We believe in/worship the symbol they have erected. They have protected us from ourselves and in the exchange have infiltrated our every orifice. They wield control over the uncontrollable and suck all life from it.

    Here’s some poetry [ahem] for the start of another day in your American Dream 🙂

    Nanny’s teat is sugary sweet,
    Nourishing cancer ups the upkeep.
    No strive then to cure of this I am sure,
    Why would the shepherd stop shearing the sheep?

  229. Self correction will require a catastrophe at this point IMO. I agree and have said so many times here and dozens of other places much to JAL’s, Graychin’s and Fake’s chagrin accompanied by charges of racism, sexism, psychopathy, X’phobe, and sadism. 😈 Tigre, your father is right – he understands what too many don’t; how weak America under Leftism is and how detached most Americans are from the universe.

    Oh, I think America will eventually rise to the occasion. But not before thousands of civilians are killed and the economy has virtually collapsed – we’ll return to a pre WWII environment and the big one will hit. Anybody really think Japan wouldn’t have dropped a nuclear bomb in Pearl Harbor if they had one? Take that and multiply by a factor of 100 if somebody parks a small nuke in a major U.S. city.

    And the reason those listed don’t get it is either they are too stupid and full of themselves to think that can’t happen, or they mistakenly think America’s military is a deterrent to more bloodshed with the American economy built on granite. Our economy is as fragile as eggshells.

    What bothers me most is so many other people who should know better don’t see what’s in front of us. It’s not like I’m some prophet – I just have a better understand of human nature than the Leftist imbeciles and Republican moderates living in their cocoons. For instance, I understand Islam is not a rational creature and hasn’t been since well before its inception.

    In late 2001, I was one of the few that said to much wailing and gnashing of teeth, being called murderer and crazy more times than I can count, (1) Nuke Tora Bora without permission or warning; (2) Kill the rest of them with thermobaric bombs and the like – send a message of hell and fire they won’t forget for 50 years. And then don’t occupy – leave it a charred heap. And the reason I said that is there are 60 Islamic countries that would like nothing better to do that to the United States and will given the opportunity and equipment.

    All roads lead to Tehran and Israel is America’s proxy. That’s why it imperative Iran cannot have fissile material. Iran’s proxies won’t hesitate to use it. And Obama’s idiocy and obvious weakness, which all Islamic countries, Europe and Putin see, will come back to haunt America if Netanyahu’s warnings don’t win out.

  230. Charles Krauthammer, who I believe a very smart man, once asked this question for the bleeding hearts like Obama who think America’s power is still a deterrent and the current enemies like the USSR.

    How many Russian kamikaze pilots were there during the Cold War?

    It’s a fair question to ask for those who think negotiation will work with Islamism.

  231. I’m glad Romney dropped out too. I’m putting my hopes on a Walker-Rubio ticket. The Dums are most afraid of these two gentlemen, and will be sorely disappointed if Bush doesn’t get the nom. That’s reason enough for me. If only a Walker nom would send the Obama blowers to Canada. I hope Dr Carson hangs in until the bitter end just to witness the racist left unable to help themselves from attempting to lynch him.

    Loretta Lynch or Tom Perez – pick your poison. With Supreme Leader Jarrett operating the jug-eared puppet we can expect certain things from whomever they ordain to carry out Operation Undermine. Honestly, who do you think Obama capable of nominating that’s any less troubling than Lynch?

    Excellent article Tigre. The paragraph just before the “Devastation” part rightly sends shivers.

  232. If anyone cared to look into the rise of Obama they would see the grooming and covering up his disquieting past hit full stride when Michele “you should meet my husband Barack” and Valerie Jarrett met.

  233. This tyred pfixation on Palin is more than just an attempt to justipfy casting a really dumb vote in 2008 and the disastrous consequences. Chumming with Palin bits pfulfills for these boys a variety of needs from within – chief among them devastating insecurities.

  234. LMFAO…..

    I cracked up at that thinking about the political fuck wads intensely sitting in rooms that reek of nervous farts blasted through tight assholes and obessing about every little detail of slogans and bumper sticker colors.

  235. Tigre….I read that piece…..and agree with it.

    The most depressing part is I’m aware of my own role in America’s lack of fortitude.

    Every day the disconnect between my country and the will to sacrifice for it seems deeper.

    Patriotism is dead in me. I’ve come to realize the mob too large to ignore and too stupid to sacrifice for. So I arrive at the same place the mob is: apathetic. In other words I suck.

    God. Family. Clan.

  236. I’m sitting alone in a hotel near St. Louis too sick to attend the second half of my daughters 2 part gymnastics meet so I’ll be brief.

    This will surprise everyone because I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned it. In 2008 MSNBC or NBC (I forget) ran a GOP vp pick challenge and near the top of my picks was one of the most popular governors in the country. Quite attractive. A reformer. I was quite smitten. So it was with much anticipation that I awaited the nomination of … you betcha … Sarah Palin.

    The minute she opened her mouth my wife was done with her. Women’s intuition perhaps? I withheld final judgment until Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric revealed her to be a big fish in a politically small pond, unfit for national office. Then she said Obama was “paling around with terrorists” and I figured out she was dumb AND mean.

    So folks even I once had high hopes for her. She’s let a lot of people down during her much more than 15 minutes of fame.

    I’ve always considered mccain a misogynist so I should have known his nomination of her was cynical exploitation.

  237. Rutherford….long time listener, first time caller….. to follow up on Sara Palin, I know you’ve pointed out some specific instances of her bothering you, but what is your over all opinion of her as a politician?

    I’d like to hear that. Thanks. I’ll hang up and listen to your answer on air.

  238. I nominate DR as the king of animated Gifs.

    I’ll ignore the likely sarcasm of your question. I don’t think Sarah could have become governor of an albeit backwoods state if she were not a good politician. She has a background in broadcasting so she’s comfortable in front of a camera.

    I find her latest appearance so cringeworthy that the more I think about it the sillier the past 6 years of violent opposition seem. My immediate reaction to the speech as reflected here and on Facebook was my usual Pavlovian dog response. I’m now rethinking it.

    Two more thoughts: the boy on the dog “scandal” showed how desperate her enemies were. If the dog was in distress he would have cried out and tried to move. The dog was fine. Sarah was probably impressed that her challenged child figured out a solution to reach the counter. While the Palin haters screamed, I actually caught my first glimpse of her humanity.

    Second, Sarah needed time in the House or Senate. The jump to VP was too much. The one thing James is right about in his otherwise absurd defense of her is both she and Obama lacked sufficient experience for the roles they were pursuing.

    This is why you should run from Rubio like the plague. Inexperienced and underneath the “articulate” manner, not extremely bright. Also not very principled. Was for aggressive immigration reform before he was against it.

    P.S. Jeb may prove the third times the charm. But damn, that dynasty thing. Seriously guys, how do you all feel about a royal American family?

  239. First of all Rutherford, did you eat some bad BBQ or what?
    I don’t think I can vote for Bush v 3.0 unless he goes on the record solid like on issues important to me.

  240. LOL No Alfie. Lungs acting up. Long story short walked longer than usual after living with two victims of the common cold for a week.

    As you can guess what I like (so far) about Bush is his advocacy for education, his bilingualism, his immediate disclosure dump before even announcing. I also like that he told a reporter at some event “I really don’t want to talk to you right now”. I’ve heard him described as prickly – not a good ole boy like W.

    I also like his statement that you have to be willing to lose the primary to win the election, even though it doesn’t work that way.

  241. I personally feel HRC can be beat but the GOP has to choose its nominee very carefully. At first blush I think the following folks can beat her:

    Bush
    Christie
    Kasich (but he needs more name recognition)
    Walker but he needs MUCH more exposure

    Those who cannot beat HRC:
    Cruz
    Rubio
    Huckabee
    Carson

    I’m on a fence about Rand. No prediction there yet.

  242. R – Appreciate your take on Palin. If one is honest, he must concede points well-made by one’s opponents, and I thought Palin’s response to the kid-standing-on-the-dog loonies was particularly good – especially the one to PETA.

    Walker-Rubio? Did someone actually say that? The Green Bay Packers of the 2016 election? Able to piss away an insurmountable lead in a single bound? You talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory …

    If Rebiblicans (See, I can do Google, too!) want to ever be taken seriously again, they need to moderate their hard-shell litmus tests for candidates and nominate someone electable. Do you people want to win, or not?!

    re: illness. Be careful, Rutherford – sounds like your constitution is not very strong. If I were you, I’d sequester myself for a while. There’s some bad stuff circulating all over the States right now. Really bad. Hampden-Sydney college in VA just sent summat like 300 students to hospital and closed classes, and you ain’t eighteen.

    Note: edited by blog owner

  243. It’s a strange phenomenon, “R.” That comment on your wife immediately detesting Sarah Palin? I don’t mean this as a pop at your wife as she obviously tolerates you – gold star material. However, it reminded me of a younger day.

    I have found as a general rule, Leftist women, whether married or single, are the most hate-filled, most enraged, most insecure humans on the planet toward their shared gender, more Conservative brethren – toward the point of many of these Leftist women I would count as clinically insane, at the very least unstable. I wonder if it’s hormonal related and the psychosis affecting the way they think towards everything?

    I used to really enjoy working with stable, Conservative women at work – they’re usually better conversationalists than their male counterparts. But the Leftist misandrists? Oh Gawd, sheer torture. I’d rather share an office with a head lopper.

    It’s the same way with Leftist men toward real heroes like Chris Kyle. I used to think it was just small penis syndrome and male envy. Have you every had your hormones checked?

  244. Bush. All we need is a photo op of him in a yarmulke humping the wailing wall and the deal is sealed. The others are just filling.

  245. I knew all the bolts weren’t properly torqued the first time I heard Palin. James has consistently defended the indefensible when it comes to her. It is rather cute. I don’t hate her and I no longer pay attention to whatever she gets involved in. I do not see her as a threat, though she has palled around with Kissinger. She has done enough to earn her time in the spotlight as well.

  246. Poolman, I actually sympathize with Phoenix today. There is nothing in this world more overrated than the SuperBowl, perhaps except for Barack Obama.

    There was a time I actually enjoyed the SuperBowl and actually had watched the game from the 2nd one on – but they lost me about 15 years ago. Frankly, I find the NFL going the way of the NBA – millionaire thugs and wife beaters, criminal owners, and a visual orgy spectacle. Dredlocks with Hip Hop. Perhaps if they bring in real gladiators for halftime entertainment, I could stick through it.

    I guess this year’s ideal game would be Seattle winning with Richard Sherman carted off on the meat wagon with a mouthful of shattered teeth.

    Last year, I watched for ten minutes and turned to Animal Planet. 😈

  247. I guess this year’s ideal game would be Seattle winning with Richard Sherman carted off on the meat wagon with a mouthful of shattered teeth.
    ummm I think Lynch being knocked into the air & immediately comatose,landing on Shermans knee destroying it,Pete Carroll getting urine and feces on his shoes from his stricken stars and NE winning by 3 is a better outcome but thats just me….

  248. @ Tex I had reason yesterday to come to pretty much the same conclusion. I find the left wing females I know and interact with to be either incredibly vapid or insanely spiteful haters.
    The vaps are universally hypocrites. I laugh as they go on and on about something like Garner or Brown but then are completely ok with the police keeping their suburban enclave safe from anything browner than a Nilla Wafer.My better half deals near daily with a woman who is a public school teacher with all the contractual and stereotypical drippings yet sends her precious ones to a charter school. I’ve also been dealing with the latest incarnation of pc thought Nazis lately and I am just so done with the feminist and micro aggression schtick.These folks are criminals and earnestly repress free speech without batting an eye. Thankfully my real world dealings have me facing fewer of them than the former group.

  249. “These folks are criminals and earnestly repress free speech without batting an eye.”

    The liberal form of PC repression requires that free speech be given away. It can’t be taken. Fuck them. And fuck the beta douches that feed it.

  250. I don’t mean this as a pop at your wife as she obviously tolerates you – gold star material. …

    I have found as a general rule, Leftist women, whether married or single, are the most hate-filled, most enraged, most insecure humans on the planet toward their shared gender, more Conservative brethren

    LOL hate to think what you’d say if you were taking a pop.

    I’m not sure I would draw your political conclusion BUT I do find a good many women don’t really like each other. The band of sisters is mostly a crock except when they get together to hate men.

    My wife is typically nonplussed by things so her reaction to Palin surprised even me. Contrary to your theory, I think if McCain had nominated Kay Bailey Hutchinson, my wife wouldn’t have batted an eye. I think (some conjecture here) that she saw an old man nominating a nice piece of ass. My wife is a Midwesterner and she was more familiar with Palin’s type than I was, being a Yankee. She found it an insult to her gender.

    She has since mellowed about it, considering Palin irrelevant and not worth discussion.

  251. Rutherford, my defense of Palin is not absurd. Your refusal to recognize the reality of her situation is an emotional response to the stimulus she and her presentation of her ideology and personality present to you. You are not, but some of her critics are fascists who would kill people like her if they thought they could get away with murder. You just don’t indulge in self reflection. Maybe you do, but I am judging you by the same standard you judge Palin, so I say you don’t.

    My awareness of such ugly people came when a job counselor told me and a friend to hide our military service if we wanted good employment. As you know, I quit to farm, and one of the benefits is I don’t have to deal with the scorpions Alfie knows.

    We are getting a blizzard. I have been up since 3AM to record conditions and report what is happening. I was cross country skiing at 7AM as the temperature began to fall. 16,000 households in the Omaha area are without electric power. A Chicago forecaster is afraid the same fate awaits power lines in northern Ilinois.

  252. My current fav baller is Marshawn Lynch. I love seeing employees stick it to their bosses. Dude doesn’t like the mandatory pressers so he shows up and just keeps repeating “I’m here so I don’t get fined”. I love it!

  253. LOL I see Alfie doesn’t agree with my assessment of Lynch. If Sherman is who I think he is, I like him too.

    Maybe I need to examine my taste in football players.

    I just hope Super Bowl 49 ends on time so my TiVo correctly records the Blacklist.

    BTW we are extending our time near St. Louis because we don’t want to drive into a blizzard. I’m learning the hard way always bring extra prescription meds. 😦

  254. I warned you Rutherford. But nooo. You refused to recognize my wisdom as you revived a tired old has been. This one is for you. Wade through it and you will see a connection between a Sara and an island.

  255. Alfie, this Lynch reminds me of Duane Thomas, Dallas Cowboys, of years gone bye. Do you remember his famous question to the press?

    “If it’s the ultimate game, how come they’re playing it again next year?”

    😆 😆

  256. “Walker-Rubio? Did someone actually say that? The Green Bay Packers of the 2016 election? Able to piss away an insurmountable lead in a single bound? You talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory …

    If Rebiblicans (See, I can do Google, too!) want to ever be taken seriously again, they need to moderate their hard-shell litmus tests for candidates and nominate someone electable. Do you people want to win, or not?!”

    You got a better idea? Let’s hear it.

  257. I want to go on record to say that Belichick and Brady Vince Wilfork is Buddah-like.

    Marshawn’s shtick is tyred. No longer funny rebelliousness. He ain’t sticking it to the man. It’s just gotten dumb and he’s enjoying the attention.

    Go Pats!!!!!!!

  258. Conservative women don’t hate men.

    I have it on good authority that liberal shmales are afraid to talk dirty to their wives.

  259. I find grabbing your crotch after a TD to be a pretty pathetic show. I also find Lynch to be more of a selfish arrogant thug than a guy who just dislikes the media. I mean if he just didn’t like talking to the press who am I to hold that against him? Ever see a Belichik presser? No theres’ more to him than meets the eye and it isn’t good.
    Most of my ire for Sherman comes from his homie act last year. I think he has a better tone now and recognizes that his play on the field is what makes the best statement. He’s been a little classier this year even when taking shots at the home team.

  260. Vince is actually a really nice guy,his wife not so much.Contrary to some of the chatter Brady doesn’t try to come off as the angel. He’s very competitive and in your face and I don’t think he seriously believes he credibly presents otherwise. He’s also whipped in the worse way but what can you do. The guy could step in a pile of dog crap and a c note would be sticking to his shoe afterwards. Thats why the haters are on him so much.

  261. Venting on:

    Could someone please tell me why the “health system” can’t tell the difference between a refill and a stopgap dose?

    Staying in St. Louis area a day longer than planned due to bad weather and I only packed enough meds for the original two nights.

    I call my home pharmacy to have them send the nearby pharmacy an order for enough meds just to get me through an extra day. “You have no refills left.”

    I don’t want a fucking refill.

    I call my doctor. I get the on call doc who is a prick. Dude gives me a lecture on how this the LAST TIME he’s authorizing a refill without my coming in for an appt.

    I don’t want a fucking refill.

    My wife gets to pharmacy and my insurance gets rejected cos it’s too soon since my last refill.

    I DON’T WANT A FUCKING GODDAM REFILL!!!!!

    So I shelled out the money cos I need the drugs. On a normal day I might have been able to hold out but my lungs are acting up so its non-negotiable.

    But I tell you, I damn near considered just dying of respiratory failure for the satisfaction of telling the prescribing doctor and insurance rep to suck my dick.

    Venting off.

  262. The left wants Bush and/or Christie. Because they want to see them win? Sure…..

    They don’t want Rubio – even as VP – in there to help with taking Florida. Plus they’re harboring a possible VP card for one of the Castro brothers. They want the only young Latino in the race to be a Dem, and the TX connection can’t hurt.

    The left is shitting bricks over Walker. As for Walker needing “MUCH more exposure” – I don’t understand the criticism.

    “This is why you should run from Rubio like the plague. Inexperienced and underneath the “articulate” manner, not extremely bright. Also not very principled. Was for aggressive immigration reform before he was against it.” -Rutherford Lawson

    Uh huh.

    Wasserman Schultz said that Rubio “was for immigration reform and a pathway to citizenship before he was against it.”

    The 2013 Senate bill which Rubio co-sponsored to overhaul our immigration system included a pathway to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants, albeit one with significant hurdles. After that died, Rubio said he still favored immigration reform, but that it’s only chance was through piecemeal bills. In his book, Rubio outlined specific steps for illegal immigrants to obtain legal status, and after many years eventually pursue citizenship.

    There is a kernel of truth to Wasserman Schultz’s claim, though, because some immigration advocates say Rubio’s piecemeal approach greatly reduces the chance that Congress would ever get to the point of addressing residency and citizenship.

    We rate this claim Mostly False.

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jan/30/debbie-wasserman-schultz/debbie-wasserman-schultz-says-marco-rubio-now-agai/

  263. Gisele has got to be a lib.

    She kinda reminds me of Theresa Kerry. Just shut your domineering yap. What an embarrassment.

    Alfie, it’s no surprise Willfork is decent. He comes off that way. I have become friends with a former Pat (seeing as I’m in ATL I’ll let you guess which one). He is very complimentary of Belichick. I really don’t care what he’s like personally, but I wonder what makes you think he’s “dark” other than he always seems so dower and confrontational.

    Gronkowski could drop Chuck Norris with a stare.

    Go Pats!!!!!!!!!!

  264. The opposition has plenty to go after Walker with Muffy but I think much of it will prove double edged.
    Hit him on his “whiteness” …this isn’t going to hurt him especially since much of that has been debunked.
    No degree… many Americans can relate to not being able to go/pay college. Walker is often uncharismatic but he’s not stupid
    Unions…nuff said

  265. The left wants Bush and/or Christie. Because they want to see them win? Sure…..

    Contrary to popular belief I don’t REPRESENT the left. Of course the left wants opponents they can beat.

    Let’s be clear, despite Tigre’s skepticism I don’t like HRC. I want either a democrat or republican alternative. I don’t find Jeb a hard swallow. I absolutely love Chris Christie (who my resp therapist honestly thinks is Chris Crispy).

    Walker is anti union which in and of itself does not disqualify him for me. I saw him on ABC this morning and I didn’t get the “paint drying” that I expected. He had some vim and vigor. I also don’t oppose Rubio as VP where he can grow a bit. But I’ve seen at least two interviews (one with Bob Schieffer) where he just seemed dumb. Not ready for POTUS.

    I find Muffy quoting politifact kinda funny since I’m sure she’d reject them when they defended a lib BUT I stand corrected on Rubio vis-a-vis immigration. Would you agree, Muffy, that Rubio succumbed to conservative pressure when he went gradual on immigration reform?

  266. “Contrary to popular belief I don’t REPRESENT the left. Of course the left wants opponents they can beat.”

    My understanding of the left wanting Bush and Christie has little to do with you at all. It’s out of academia and living in a multicultural neighborhood that I get the vibes. The anti-Walker talk among elites is particularly eye-opening. I would love to see it exposed.

    Of course the left wants opponents they can beat. But they also couch it in disingenuous faint praise for the candidates, operating under the guise of wanting them in there because they like them. Again, I’ve noticed that you merely fall in line in that regard but I was inclined to think so before you weighed in.

    I believe you like Christie though. I’Il admit to being cynical about you liking him because the slimmest thing about him are his chances.

    “I find Muffy quoting politifact kinda funny since I’m sure she’d reject them when they defended a lib BUT I stand corrected on Rubio vis-a-vis immigration. Would you agree, Muffy, that Rubio succumbed to conservative pressure when he went gradual on immigration reform?”

    I find your remarks kinda predictable because a) I knew you were going to say that and b) they are typically unfounded seeing as how I generally don’t make a practice of dogging left wing rags at all. Must be someone else you’re thinking of.

    The perfect alignment of your remarks to DWS speaks for itself. It’s something of a canard.

    Sorry you’re feeling poorly. You were wise to avoid the snow – it’s a whiteout.

  267. Sorry I’m a bit thick today. What is DWS?

    I believe you like Christie though. I’Il admit to being cynical about you liking him because the slimmest thing about him are his chances.

    That was funny. Was that a Muffy original? If so, kudos.

    Where do you think Christie’s chances are slimmest, in the primaries or the general? Wouldn’t it be a shame if the primaries destroyed the gop’s best chance at the WH? That of course was Mitt’s rationale for not running. Said the primaries would leave him too scarred to beat HRC. Is that his excuse for losing to BO in ’12?

  268. “I think Parker is wrong about Walker. His statement better applies to Huckabee and Cruz.”

    Problem is I never mentioned either one.

    PS…Thanks though, whatever it was I’m sure I appreciate your edit.

  269. “That was funny. Was that a Muffy original? If so, kudos.”

    Yes it was 🙂 I like Christie too and I’m glad he’s on the scene and on the team but not for president.

    In fact, Christie/Carson 2016 But Not For President

    DWS =

  270. Did you ever notice DWS sounds like Elmer Fudd?

    Carson is one odd customer. So mild mannered as to be a bit creepy. And then prone to whoppers like “Obamacare worst thing since slavery”. Really?

    I GET the leap from businessman to POTUS (Romney) from a management angle. But I’ll be damned if I get the leap from brilliant neurosurgeon to POTUS.

  271. See you Pat fans…I’m having a difficult time with this game because: (1) The NFL sucks; (2) These are the two teams I could have rooted against; (3) I despise Boston; (4) I think the NE tight end is a meathead; (5) I loathe Tom Brady and his dimwitted wife, and Bill B. is a cheating a_hole – But, I disdain Richard Sherman, Pete Carroll is no better, and the town of Seattle is full of fascist old hippies.

    I can’t even use my most useful measurement to break a tie – which state voted for Barack Obama so I can root against them? 😈

    Truly, a troubling time for me.

  272. I think people are yearning for character to make a comeback.

    It makes for good soundbite but his statement isn’t all that much of a whopper.

    What has been worse than Obamacare in the sense that he meant? That is “things that fundamentally change the United Sates of America and shift power from the people to the government. That is a huge shift.”

  273. Here’s the problem. Slavery didn’t change America. That’s our original sin. Slavery defined America. The END of slavery changed America.

    Second slavery was a product of free enterprise, not government.

    For me to take Carson at all seriously I have to bring his whopper up a few levels of abstraction to say that any shift toward government involvement enslaves its citizens. If that’s what he meant, he would have been better off saying it.

    I read excerpts of two of his books. Ok writer. Nothing rhetorically brilliant. But what bothered me was his praying for guidance for the most trivial of things, like whether or not he should give a particular speech to a particular audience. Maybe he uses “prayer” as shorthand for deliberation? If he really needs to talk to God for pedestrian decisions, he’ll talk Gods ear off for how to deal with Putin.

    Then again, maybe if Steve Scalise had talked to God, he might not have made that speech to David Duke sympathizers.

  274. What I care about is our power is back on. A blizzard hid our front yard from before 5AM until about 4;30PM The visibility is better now, and the wind has diminished to 4o MPH or less. Our electronics didn’t like the surprise power outage. The forecast low is -15 though in our low location calm wind and clear sky could take it down to -18 or -20.

    Now, you get to enjoy it Rutherford.

  275. “(1)Here’s the problem. Slavery didn’t change America. That’s our original sin. Slavery defined America. The END of slavery changed America.

    (2) Second slavery was a product of free enterprise, not government.

    (3)For me to take Carson at all seriously I have to bring his whopper up a few levels of abstraction to say that any shift toward government involvement enslaves its citizens. If that’s what he meant, he would have been better off saying it.”

    1) Obviously he wasn’t referring to the end of slavery but rather the wrongness. (Slavery wasn’t our original sin either but that’s irrelevant.)
    2) I don’t see how that makes a difference. His statement wasn’t comparing the two for purposes other than “bad for the people” and “worst since.”
    3) What other interpretation is there? Perhaps he could have said it better but a lapse in communication is only a problem for a conservative. You’d give him the benefit of the doubt otherwise.

  276. I think Walker’s biggest political weakness is that he does not have a college degree. He’s a college dropout. That’s going to be used against him in the primaries AND in the general, if he makes it that far.

    And it will resonate. As much as politicians give this “I am just like you” bullshit, the bottom line is, people want someone who is smarter than they are to run the country. Walker dropped out with a sub-3.0 GPA. That’s not going to convince many of his intelligence.

    Don’t get me wrong…I’m not saying he isn’t intelligent. But he’s going to miss the mark on how we traditionally measure it. Remember all the interest in Obama’s education? Yeah……

    I don’t think Christie is even going to enter the race.

  277. but a lapse in communication is only a problem for a conservative. You’d give him the benefit of the doubt otherwise.

    Alan Grayson once said something to the effect that the GOP healthcare solution is for you to die. This is exactly why I didn’t and don’t like Alan Grayson.

    I’ve probably violated this rule but I find hyperbole to be the fastest route to derailing an argument.

    In your parenthetical I am assuming you are emphasizing OUR original sin, meaning slavery didn’t originate with us. Absolutely. But it was with us since our founding and our “fathers” chose not to abolish it.

  278. WOW Did not know Walker was a dropout. He’s done quite well without the degree. Be very interesting to see if there’s a litmus test there. Palin caught some heat for attending several (5?) different schools to get her bachelors. If Walker doesn’t get similar heat, we’ve got a real double standard on our hands.

    Huck elaborate on Christie. I think he’s wanted it since 2012.

  279. “I GET the leap from businessman to POTUS (Romney) from a management angle. But I’ll be damned if I get the leap from brilliant neurosurgeon to POTUS.”

    The Paul’s – unless you mean the direct “leap.” Topically, health care ought to be an area that an MD would be regarded as more of an expert than say an MIT prick or congress. And certainly more than a community organizer.

    In the end I don’t disagree that the fit isn’t quite right. Surgeon general perhaps.

    I do wonder and not in an entirely bad way how his manner would go over on the world stage. He seems unflappable and not arrogantly so.

  280. Eeeeerily unflappable. Nuke your ass with a whisper unflappable. Surgeon General? Yes I agree whole heartedly.

    Interestingly, RonP and Tom Coburn delivered babies. I think this plays nicely into the man of the people meme and quite good for politics. Neurosurgery, not so much.

    P.S. Obama is considered unflappable. 😉

  281. “I’ve probably violated this rule but I find hyperbole to be the fastest route to derailing an argument.” -R

    I don’t think Carson was engaging in hyperbole.

    “I think Walker’s biggest political weakness is that he does not have a college degree. He’s a college dropout. That’s going to be used against him in the primaries AND in the general, if he makes it that far.” -Huck

    “And it will resonate.”

    Agreed and well put.

  282. Ok so today I heard an alternative narrative. Bibi and his ambassador engineered the address to Congress. Boehner only “invited” them to the extent that he went along with their inviting themselves. This jibes with Boehner’s history of spinelessness.

    Seen in this light it is even more an insult to BO. Who’s running against Bibi? He or she gets my vote.

  283. “P.S. Obama is considered unflappable.”

    I know, which is why I added the last part. He’s also considered smart. 😉

  284. “I GET the leap from businessman to POTUS (Romney) from a management angle. But I’ll be damned if I get the leap from brilliant neurosurgeon to POTUS”

    Yet in 2008, you were gushing wet with enthusiasm over a leap from….uh…uhhh… Student?….uh…scratch that, don’t know his grades….uhhhh….burger king manager. …..no…never had a real job…professional talking guy?..professional black guy?…to POTUS

  285. DR you kinda ignored the U.S. Senator part. Now you might argue he had no business in the Senate but that’s a different argument.

    Bottom line in retrospect I concede he had insufficient experience.

  286. “Huck elaborate on Christie. I think he’s wanted it since 2012.”

    He doesn’t bring anything to the party that someone else doesn’t bring. Bush is already sucking up all of the establishment money and is already seen as the “safe” centrist candidate. He isn’t right enough to appeal to the base. And he can’t go farther left than Bush and hope to win the nomination.

    And if he runs and loses, how does that affect him in NJ politics afterward? He’s going to play it safe and stay home.

  287. Congratulations Pat fans. One of the great things about hating both teams, is I could find joy in watching Richard Sherman’s anguish. Oh! And a double celebration being I had forgotten Paul Allen was the Seattle owner.

    That had to be the dumbest single offensive call I’ve witnessed in 50 years on the goal line.

  288. Why does anybody think a college degree singly signifies intelligence? JAL probably has a college degree. See what that is worth? That has to be one of the most egregious lies ever foisted on stupid America. Most degrees are frankly useless.

    Speaking of Paul Allen, he has no college degree. Neither did Abraham Lincoln or Harry Truman. Didn’t seem to limit them, did it?

    The deal is that Rutherford and millions like him will find any excuse to marginalize any Republican candidate. Right now, these corrupt weasels in the Democratic Party have millions, perhaps billions invested to dig dirt on every Republican Candidate.

    Here’s what Republicans should be doing at this minute. Save your billions on political action committees and start making movies, buying tabloid magazines – especially women’s magazines, sports periodicals, and spending millions to did dirt on any Democratic Candidate to be advertised from here to the election. Start with Hillary getting off the rapist of a 12 year old girl and laughing about it – it’s all on audio. Play the commercials daily on soap operas, The View, and MTV.

    Fight fire with fire.

  289. “That had to be the dumbest single offensive call I’ve witnessed in 50 years on the goal line.”

    Beyond dumb. Pathological. What an ego maniac. Had to interject himself and play cutesy. Wtf?

    Biggest coach choke in sports history.

  290. “Why does anybody think a college degree singly signifies intelligence?”

    I agree, Tex. But I think it’s going to be used against him effectively on the national stage.

  291. While you guys toss the sports lingo I’m still wondering why Brady has tar lines under his eyes. 😯

    I guess I feel safe in adding “sports” to your list of insufficiency along with religion and economics? :facepalm:

    I hope that was a joke.

  292. I agree, Tex. But I think it’s going to be used against him effectively on the national stage.

    Oh, don’t get me wrong, Huck. I think you’re absolutely spot on. It just once again demonstrates to me how incredibly stupid America really is.

  293. I didn’t say you liked HRC Rutherford. I said you will vote for her if she’s the candidate. I’ve been here long enough. You will engage in the most absurd post hac rationalization to explain why “the other guy” isn’t worthy. Much like what you just said of Carson. Hell, listening to you talk of congressional experience is laughable for someone that fawns over Warren and Obama whose “congressional experience isn’t worth a plug nickel.

  294. Pats won. Game over. Forgotten tomorrow.

    Tex, don’t be a hater. 😆

    (p.s. the whole thing is not a big deal to me. Mostly I’m mocking. Wouldn’t have ruined my day of they lost. People that take pro sports beyond a fleeting pastime need to get a life. Frankly I think they all suck but I enjoy the moment.).

  295. Unfortunately I’m very serious. I don’t get the war paint.

    Also can someone explain in English what the bad call was at the end? Yes I watched the end so I wouldn’t miss the Blacklist. I understand the Pats came from behind (ten points trailing at the half?). Wonder if they cheated to catch up. Overinflated balls maybe? 😆

  296. Blame my Dad who never explained any sports to me.

    He figured out early on like your mom Angela Davis that you were unteachable. 😛 In theory, it’s supposed to reduce the glare of the lights/sun and clear contrast. And I think there is some science behind it that certain materials like paraffin do work to a degree. I never tried it when I was playing, so I can’t tell you from personal experience.

  297. The bad call was that the Seahawks, with perhaps the best power back in the game, chose to throw the ball instead of run it from the one yard line, when they had three stabs to get it into the end zone.

    Obviously, an Obama voter calling the plays for the SeaHawks – probably a doper. 😆

  298. I hate both teams, but I hate the Pats more. I have an issue with cheating, which the Pats consistently do. Anyone who thinks those balls were just deflated for the AFC Championship game is delusional. The Pats have been doing it for a while, which explains their stats in wet weather games and in fumbles.

    They shouldn’t have even been there. NFL came out last week saying that the Nate Soldier touchdown shouldn’t have happened because of the formation. Hence, they would have lost to Baltimore (who I also hate for different reasons…).

    Pats get away with so much shit in the league…

  299. I am curious though about something:

    Hampden-Sydney college in VA just sent summat like 300 students to hospital and closed classes, and you ain’t eighteen. – Pfaker

    How does someone in Australia know this school of ~1,000 students in Farmville, Virginia even exists, let alone that it is closing classes because of sickness?

    What’s the point of this charade again? I’m calling you out Pfaker, what gives with the act?

  300. God, gorilla – are you really that dumb? Do I have to spell it out for you? Take you to the loo and wipe your ass, too? I’m trying to have a little fun here; don’t fuck it up. Either get in the game or be quiet.

  301. Rutherford – I thought you’d appreciate this:

    If you were lost in the woods…
    If your daughter were in trouble in a bad part of town…
    If your radiator hose blew and you didn’t have a clue what to do…
    If you woke up from a nightmare and found yourself atop a bull about to be released into the arena…
    If you were at a low, low point and wanted a friend to talk to…

    Who would you want on your side, Chris Kyle or Michael Moore?

  302. I’m trying to have a little fun here…

    Well then, I guess that’s what separates us. I thinking lying and deceit are character flaws, and as such, they take away from any argument made. Why you feel like you have to carry on the worse charade on the net is beyond me, but it takes away from your argument–whatever it is.

    Fuck you, I don’t play your games…

  303. @ G for a guy that roots for a team with a QB who has always benefitted from bullshit pass interference calls as a staple to his repertoire you need to chill the ire on officiating.
    @ R that close to the end zone with the RB they have Seattle had no business putting it in the air.
    @ General hate towards the Patriots since R always dreamed of a social commentary blog vs a political one.
    The Patriots have done NOTHING every other team does to some degree and in fact many teams throughout the history of the NFL have done far worse. The Pats are reviled because they win,because they routinely expose the weaknesses of others and because on any given Sunday they play relentlessly .They do this in no small way by exploiting obscurities in the rulebook that the league has even forgot they wrote. The finals this year alone show this to be true. It’ll affect many teams next season but yes by all means hate the Pats some more for the refs curbing of the hurry up offense in the name of “fairness”.
    The Pats are always criticized for “deception” and “running up the score” and thus labelled “cheaters”(don’t get me started on the fallacy of “spy gate”). F@#$ all you pop warner faux nostalgia morons. This is the N-F-L a multi-billion dollar enterprise.This isn’t a game.
    New England Patriots have 4 rings and no matter your imagined and spiteful asterisks B&B are living in Canton baby!

  304. Like I said, Alfie – my problems with New England don’t stem from “cheating.” My problems with New England are because I find the organization from the owner to the quarterback the height of arrogance.

    That wouldn’t generally be a problem as that describes half the teams in the NFL – but New England wins. 🙂

  305. More great moments in Barack Obama history!

    During his live interview with NBC a few minutes ago, President Obama claimed that he’s the first president to “make some booze” in the White House since George Washington.

    Problem is, Pres. John Adams was the first White House resident.

    The smartest President ever! Yes We Can!

  306. ‘I have an issue with cheating, which the Pats consistently do. Anyone who thinks those balls were just deflated for the AFC Championship game is delusional.”

    Come on G….those balls were only used in the first half. Aren’t the refs given the balls before hand anyways?

    Deflated footballs fall under the heading of acceptable cheating in my book.

    In baseball, Gaylord Perry, Niekro brothers and Kenny Rogers (in the Tigers’ post season play no less) made legends of themselves fucking with the ball. Nobody hates their guts. They are loved.

    Fundamentally altering the chemistry of your body via hormone manipulation? I’m with you. The ball-boy fucking with the pig skin a little bit? Your player hating!

    Go Blue!

  307. ” In theory, it’s supposed to reduce the glare of the lights/sun and clear contrast. And I think there is some science behind it that certain materials like paraffin do work to a degree.”

    Whether placebo or not I don’t know, but I found the black stuff to be essential playing first base with the sun in my face as I have light blue eyes. In fairness, I have, in fact, been called out as a douche for doing it from my buddies on the field.

  308. Alfie, are you kidding me? Tuck rule? Wanna talk officiating benevolence, really? I’ll point out that while you claim every team does it, it’s only the Pats getting caught at it. And you play in arguably the weakest div in the AFC, which is one of the reasons you’re consistently #winning.

    Enjoy your * ….

  309. Besides, the Pats shouldn’t have been there in the first place…

    NFL says Solder touchdown play was illegal
    http://www.csnne.com

    “There was an issue on that play where on the previous play, [Cameron] Fleming had reported as an eligible player,” Blandino said. “And on the Solder touchdown he went back to playing an ineligible position. That’s illegal. That’s an illegal substitution. So that’s something we discussed with the crew. Bill [Belichick] was made aware of it. So we’re going to be looking for that, make sure we follow the proper mechanics so that doesn’t happen again.”

    Yeah, next time…

  310. ** Guffaw ** Only a slow pitch softball player could truly appreciate that video.

    DR, my high school coach hated me. I coulda been Derek Jeter. 😆 I did yell at a gal once “MOVE” because she was so fat, she slowed me down on the base paths after smacked one off the wall. I got a damn single after hitting the ball 300ft. LOL. Rounding first, I came to a sliding halt between first and second. It slipped out. Everybody hated me.

  311. Patriots Do Notably Well in Wet Weather, Analysis Shows
    http://www.nytimes.com

    “Over the past 12 seasons, the New England Patriots have played so well in wet conditions that their margin of victory in those games has exceeded the betting “spread” — set by a global market that tries to take all known advantages into account — a remarkable 80 percent of the time, according to a new statistical analysis by a sports betting information website.”

    In those 20 games, New England’s average score has been 30.5-13.2, for a whopping 17.3-point average margin of victory.

    The Patriots Have Incredible Ball Security
    http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com

    “I’m not sticking my neck out here and saying this is evidence of anything. It’s fair to say that Belichick emphasizes ball security emphatically, and is quick to bench players who drop the ball. Everyone will have their own opinion anyway. I’ll just say, either way, it’s worth looking at. If it’s a result of an unfair advantage, that’s interesting. If it’s the result of good coaching, that’s just as interesting.”

    Hmmmmm, I wonder what’s easier to hold: a properly inflated ball or a deflated football…. Pondering…. So many “coincidences”…

  312. Knowing absolutely nothing about football I state for the record that I am on board with the conspiracy theory that the coach wanted to rob Lynch his moment of glory even if it meant losing!

    I’m here so I don’t get fined!

  313. Patriots Do Notably Well in Wet Weather, Analysis Shows

    “Over the past 12 seasons, the New England Patriots have played so well in wet conditions that their margin of victory in those games has exceeded the betting “spread” — set by a global market that tries to take all known advantages into account — a remarkable 80 percent of the time, according to a new statistical analysis by a sports betting information website.”

    In those 20 games, New England’s average score has been 30.5-13.2, for a whopping 17.3-point average margin of victory.

    The Patriots Have Incredible Ball Security

    “I’m not sticking my neck out here and saying this is evidence of anything. It’s fair to say that Belichick emphasizes ball security emphatically, and is quick to bench players who drop the ball. Everyone will have their own opinion anyway. I’ll just say, either way, it’s worth looking at. If it’s a result of an unfair advantage, that’s interesting. If it’s the result of good coaching, that’s just as interesting.”

    Hmmmmm, I wonder what’s easier to hold: a properly inflated ball or a deflated football…. Pondering…. So many “coincidences”…

  314. “Only a slow pitch softball player could truly appreciate that video”

    Ain’t that the truth. Funny part is I’m a twisted combination of all three!

    Now I’m “wrestling dad”. Wife calls me a dance mom.

  315. The only thing I lacked was $500 bat, DR. I’d use angry young guy’s mint condition, depleted uranium Easton – and if I could get 4 or 5 hits, he’d follow me to the car with a chest of beer. I’d make coeds shag balls just so I could take batting practice. I made a girl playing first base cry once for throwing too hard. LOL. I fell in love with my wife at softball game while making like angry young guy. I once tried to slam at 90mph at a guy’s head for sliding into my feet at 2nd base – two angry young guys – knocked his cap off.

    Man, I was twisted. 😈

  316. Every game G against every team G
    The Tuck rule which I understand is no longer a rule was an obscurity called by an official. It wasn’t a missed call or even a “let’s help out a star” which Peytons pass interferences are. Thats a statistical reality across all sports btw that stars get a lot of leeway.
    I’ll see your link and add you one loaded with them.
    As for not being there in the first place….NOTHING WAS SAVING THE COLTS YOU CRY BABY and besides there seems to be a lot of wiggle regards there being an administrative break in play that negates the inelig/elig calling in.
    Last word 4
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/your-guide-to-deflate-gateballghazi-related-statistical-analyses/
    The Patriots also are one of the teams that don’t pussy out regards practice conditions.
    I also add that your stats link author is very much back and forth as to guilt and seemingly has nothing much to say about teams that admit to using overinflated balls i.e. GB
    I do look forward to your support for all future IPCC modeling too.

  317. G, quit whining. Pats are good and it ain’t a pound of air. And the damn videogate that has your panties in a twist wasn’t shit. They filmed what was occurring in front of an entire stadium as teams had done for years. The ineligible receiver trick was never “cheating.” Chill. It’s football.

  318. I hate softball guy. Looking back, I’m mortified, ashamed – but man, that rainbow shot over the left field fence with the bases loaded was my Winning the Masters moment. LOL Ain’t I COOL!

    There are large chunks of my life I hope God erases from history and people have forgotten.

  319. “The harshest counterargument belonged to data scientist Drew Fustin. Fustin challenged Sharp’s choice to exclude dome teams (Sharp’s own post says outdoor teams barely fumble more often than those based in domes), instead looking at fumble rates across all teams in outdoor games only — whereupon the Patriots don’t even rank first in the NFL at fumble avoidance over the 2010-2014 period. He also questions whether Sharp’s decision to use that 2010-14 period was a case of cherry-picking the timeframe that would make the Patriots look most like an extreme outlier.”

    Ouch.

  320. IPCC modeling…. LOL….

    Wallow in your #winnings. Enjoy the moment, but know that no one will ever believe anything the Pats say because there is no reason to trust anything the Pats say….

  321. Careful G. There might be some disinfo in your deflategate modeling:

    Report: Only one Pats football deflated

    Deflategate could be turning in the Patriots’ favor, if the latest media leak in the NFL’s investigation proves true.

    According to an anonymously sourced NFL Network report Sunday morning, just one of the 12 footballs used by New England in the first half of the AFC Championship Game two weeks ago was judged by league officials to be 2 pounds of air per square inch below the NFL’s 12.5 PSI minimum.

    The league’s official network reported 11 of the 12 balls were underinflated, but contradicted an ESPN report from last week that all 11 of the suspect balls were 2 psi below the limit.

    NFL Network reported “many of the underinflated balls were just a few ticks under the minimum.”

    The network also reported the ballboy caught on video dipping into a Gillette Stadium bathroom with the balls for 98 seconds was “elderly.”

    The NFL Network report was just the latest twist in a controversy the league has turned over to an outside investigator for a probe it says will not be completed for several more weeks.

    Commissioner Roger Goodell said during his state-of-the-league press conference Friday the NFL has “made no judgments so far” and won’t publicly comment until investigator Ted Wells is finished with his work.

    http://nypost.com/2015/02/02/seahawks-explain-punch-trading-brawl-that-ended-super-bowl/

  322. G’s right, on a much deeper level than any of us care to go anymore.

    Wanting to keep it light is understandable though.

  323. This “having a little fun” is PFAKER’S biggest lie yet. He’s a pathological liar and to my mind the only one with any excuse to have accepted and thereby assisted him with this fraud for the past year and a half is Poolman. I don’t think I need to spell out the reasons for that.

    What I will bother with is why the sockpuppetry deception hurts some more than others. Only with a mind firmly rooted in logical reality a person can deal effectively with the quagmire of lies (that is part of life) but especially life on the deepest morass that is the internet. Reality is too often shaped by what other people say, and it’s all too easy to become hopelessly brainwashed.

    This type of thing is precisely why conspiracist fantacies spread like contagions on the internet, and common sense becomes just another opinion treated no more “legit” than fantasy.

    The internet avails turning weak-minded people – especially those dealing with a traumatic event like losing one’s job or worse – into nihilistic, doubtful people believing that nothing is real and there is no common right or wrong. The only value in any exchanges with people who base their online communications on a lie is in how it makes you feel. But the undercurrent is devilish and succumbing is to become a disbeliever in reality, giving falsity the victory by default.

  324. Muffy, disillusioned? Excluding Belky, no one here seems to have bought into the bullshit. Pfucker is worthy of pity, not belief.

    Pfucker’s really bad Australian imitation is consistent with all of his prior displays, from threatening to call the FBI to lying about his childhood sexcapades (shudder). His claimed courtroom experience had me laughing. Pfucker’s pathological. A child. A Walter Mitty desperately seeking approval that digs in when he doesn’t receive it. Thankfully no one I know should find him on their medical billing statements.

    Pfucker is like scores of kids I knew growing up. They exist outside of the internet and always will.

  325. One last comment about last night’s Superbowl and every other Superbowl and I’m done.

    Does it blow anyone else’s mind that those awful commercials we were viewing cost $4,000,000 per 30 clip? How can anybody justify that expense and do such jaw dropping, awful work? Some of them were so pitiful, I scratched my head trying to determine what was the objective. Exposure? Is even embarrassing exposure good now?

    I know everybody says the NFL is on the upswing – and the numbers prove it including last night’s viewing numbers. But I honestly feel the entire game is in sharp decline and nobody is noticing yet. That was a great game as far as pro goes, and it still left me feeling unsatisfied.

    I wish they would just get back to playing football – and forget the spectacle. If the owners honestly believe what the game needs is attracting 14 year old girls, then they’ve lost the true fans.

  326. The ads were head-scratching. Except for the Breaking Bad pharmacy one. I don’t care who you are, that right there was funny.

    Tex, it’s long-gone. Remember the “Bud Bowl?” Stupid.

  327. Tex, from PJ:

    “A friend of mine watching the game at my house last night, a fellow member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy bivouacked behind enemy lines in Deep Blue Socialist California, dubbed it “The Nanny Bowl.” He’s definitely on to something. As journalist Kevin P. Craver tweeted to me last night, “I fell into an alternate universe in which the party that loses the November election gets to write the Super Bowl ads.”

    The misandry was eye-rolling, even for the ladies.

    Err, uuuh. . . I mean sensitive and socially aware. Yes We Can. 🙄

  328. Problem is, Pres. John Adams was the first White House resident.

    C’mon Tex is that your best? You know exactly what he meant. You’re dinging him on a technicality.

  329. Oh c’mon. Imagine if Bush had said it. Chaz and his sister would’ve been tittering away. You’d then use it as a reason he was unfit to serve.

  330. I have two more things to say about the SB besides the obvious conspiracy against Lynch.

    First, pity the fool who turns G’s relentless research toward football. Damn, and I thought he was only that way about politics.

    Second, I found today’s exchange very entertaining. Almost makes me wanna turn this into a sports blog. 🙂

    P.S. Parker is just having a little fun. I don’t know what the hell that means but if it’s a confession of pfakery then I’d suggest its a good time for the charade to end and for Pfesser to return.

  331. Oh, come on Rutherford. You of the BushMcChimpyHitler giggle, the Palin plussed, the Mitt Romney 47% shuffle?

    You know in your heart of hearts Obama is historically inept and poorly read. How many times does this wormy weasel have to demonstrate he’s more ghetto then bravissimo? Face it, Obama is a dumb cluck.

    Telling you so is unnecessary. But always worth repeating. 😛

  332. Brrrr. That is some nasty weather, James. I’d want to park myself in front of a hearth with a nice warm fire. I suffered through 72 today. People were out jogging, one girl was doing so in a bikini. We don’t generally get that until spring. We’re supposed to be 80 by the weekend. Now that the super bowel crowd has left, traffic is back to normal. We had mostly rain and fog last week, now we have clear skies. Well, mostly clear except for the crop dusting.

  333. Rutherford –

    What is your take on Rand Paul’s childhood vaccination stance? I think this topic is a great place to explore the rights of the individual in a society. (One should note that Dr. Paul is an ophthalmologist, not a pediatrician.)

    I have in my book collection a great old book by Bertrand Russell, “Authority and the Individual.” Might be time to re-read it.

    Tex? You have medical training. Thoughts? I looked up thimerosal yesterday and they’re not using it as a preservative in kids younger than six. Even when they were, it was in microgram quantities – (For you Shylock/Sherlock types, that is 0.0000000022 pounds or 0.000000035 ounces.)

    What about it, R? Individual rights vs. rights of all the school kids who by law must attend and be exposed to your unvaccinated child … might be a good new post for you.

  334. LOL. Where do you find these things, Gorilla? Sounded like a pack of hyenas in heat wearing dresses. Looked like it too.

    I still find this my favorite ‘femme fatale’ song of all time. Been living with chit going on 50 years now. Check out the Obama jeans. Bet she throws better than Obama, though.

  335. Turns out Russell’s 1948 BBC lectures on “Authority and the Individual” are on YouTube! Series of six.

    They are a half-hour each. I think I’ll download these and play them in my car on the way to the office. Yes, he’s a famous atheist, but these are not about religion.

  336. Parker, as an MD you understand like I do vaccines are one of the real “true” miracles of medicine. I’m a big believer in parental rights and authority butting out – until it starts endangering others. And not vaccinating your children against measles etc… is endangering others.

    Frankly, I believe people that don’t vaccinate their children are conducting one of the most insidious forms of child abuse.

    For some reason, there are millions of Americans that are under the false impression that we should be able to create a world without risks – no matter the costs, no matter the irrationality of that world view. It’s a wonder these folks can get out of bed.

  337. Frankly, I believe people that don’t vaccinate their children are conducting one of the most insidious forms of child abuse.

    I would be hard pressed to submit my kids to vaccinations today after what I have learned. The connection between vaccines and autism are undeniable.

    Maybe if these vaccines didn’t contain formaldehyde or mercury.

    Even the CDC admits to the ingredients, though they deny any harm.

    Then there is the whole connection between eczema and vaccinations. My wife is convinced that’s how she contracted it in her youth.

    http://www.educate4theinjured.org/#!eczemaandshedding/crev

  338. I would be hard pressed to submit my kids to vaccinations today after what I have learned. The connection between vaccines and autism are undeniable.

    You are aware the doctor that found those connections has already lost his medical license and that the findings you referenced have proven a total fraud, aren’t you? Jenny McCarthy is nobody worth listening to.

    Don’t be foolish, Poolman. We’re talking life and death here for your grand kids. Get them vaccinated according to their pediatrician’s specifics. The risk is so slight, it’s almost negligible; the risk of contracting measles is 70% with one exposure.

    Here’s a good test. Are doctors willing to do so with their families and their children? It’s why I never bothered to have LASIK done – too many ophthalmologists still wearing glasses and contacts.

  339. “I’m a big believer in parental rights and authority butting out – until it starts endangering others. And not vaccinating your children against measles etc… is endangering others.”

    Yep.

    Children that aren’t vaccinated should not be allowed in public places.

  340. This is a very ignorant question, but who do they put at risk? Do they only put others who are not vaccinated at risk or are the outbreaks of these diseases a risk to people who are vaccinated as well?

  341. Many if not most vaccinations are not completely full proof, Rabbit. Some viruses that mutate frequently like the “flu” most likely won’t provide full immunization – they lessen the virulence. I have no problem with the flu vaccine being voluntary.

    The best way to not get a disease is to not be exposed. However, in today’s world, that a virtual impossibility.

    I’m no immunologist, but measles was virtually eliminated within 20 years when the vast majority of the American population was vaccinated. Some like small pox and polio practically extinguished globally. The greater number of the herd immunized, the more likely to lessen the exposure of the virus in the aggregate.

  342. Get your grand babies vaccinated if they are not.

    Grand babies have been vaccinated. State requires it before they attend public school. I had measles as a kid and don’t feel threatened by it. I was given all the vaccines growing up military dependent stationed overseas. I have built up a healthy immune system and cleansed my organs of many toxins in my old age. A lot of the effects of vaccines aren’t seen until later in life. Science is divided between real seekers and those who seek to divide.

    The health industrial complex demands assimilation.

    http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/January-2014/Gardasil-Vaccine-and-Katie-Couric.aspx

  343. Rabbit your question wasn’t at all ignorant. The answer was very informative. Thanks to Huck and Tex.

    Pools, Christie has danced all over the place on this subject. More on Christie in the next comment.

  344. My respiratory therapist (who basically just makes sure my ventilator stays in working order) thanks the NJ governor is named Chris Crispy.

    Well, she may be prescient. Based on stuff I’m hearing about Chris’ spending habits NOT on his own dime, he may indeed be toast.

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