The Left’s Longing for a Moderate Islam

Today’s post is by The 800lb Gorilla, a conservative blogger and acquaintance of mine for some years. The piece is a response to my assertion that many on the left are trying to distance the French terrorists, who executed the staff of “Charlie Hebdo”, from Islam altogether. In fact just today I heard a report that a Frenchman declared “they were not Muslims, they were terrorists”. Well of course, they were Muslims and the degree to which they differ from “the average Muslim” has as much to do with our perceptions as it does any truth, which Gorilla discusses below.

Some quick definitions to help with understanding the piece.

“dar al-Islam vs dar al-Harb”: The notion that the world divides into two parts, the “clean part” which embraces Islam and the “dirty” part which does not, and is destined for chaos and strife.

The Clash of Civilizations“: A work by political scientist Samuel P. Huntington who suggests that in the post cold war era, people will identify and oppose each other more along cultural lines than ideological or nationalistic lines.

“ummah”: Arabic for “community”.

And now, I’ll let Gorilla have the floor.

Liberal assertion: Some of us are trying to separate this tragedy from mainstream Islam.

Statement by Josh Earnest on fighting Islamist extremism.

Why?

There is a difference between radical Islam and “mainstream” Islam, but that difference is not Islam, it is the implementation of Islam. So when a “mainstream” Muslim talks about dar al-Islam vs. dar al-Harb, there is at least the perception and belief (on the part of the non-Muslim) that they are speaking metaphorically. However, when a radical Muslim speaks of dar al-Islam vs. dar al-Harb, there is the absolute assertion that they are speaking literally. The only difference between the “mainstream” and radical view on dar al-Islam vs. dar al-Harb is YOUR perception of the interpretation taken by either the “mainstream” or radical Muslim. The point is, it means the same for both.

I think the comments and actions made by Egyptian President al-Sisi opposing radicals are interesting, and certainly a positive, but I’m cautious in clinging to an iota of hope in a sea of doubt. I personally see a fundamentalist transition to Islam occurring right now. Muslim states are becoming more fundamentalist—not less—and that does not bode well for collaboration, cooperation, and integration with Western Civilization. That should concern us all.

I always found Sam Huntington’s premise on the war of civilizations to be interesting. It concerns me though that buying into his premise could make conflicts between civilizations a self-fulfilling prophecy. All the same, it is hard to watch what is happening in the greater ummah and not be concerned. Whether you believe it or not, Islam puts stock in the literal notion of dar al-Islam vs. dar al-Harb.

Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” host Chuck Todd noted French Prime Minister François Hollande had declared France is at war with radical Islam and asked Attorney General Eric Holder, “Would you say the United States is at war with radical Islam?”

Holder answered, “I would say that we are at war with terrorists who commit these heinous acts and who use Islam. They use a corrupted version of Islam to justify their actions. We are bound and determined to hold them accountable, to find them wherever they are, and then to try, as you indicated, to come up with ways in which we prevent young people who become attracted to this radical ideology from becoming members of these groups and perpetrating these heinous acts.”

Hamas French Heroes

The left has put a lot of effort—an effort not made by Muslims themselves—into separating Islam from Islamic extremists. The only reason, as far as I can tell, is political correctness and a short-sighted effort to demonstrate that they are more nuanced and understanding than anyone else, apparently to include Muslims. I think this is a mistake. The intent of radical Islam is to push the ummah towards fundamentalist premises within the faith. These aren’t foreign ideas, but rather are strict interpretations of notions ALL Muslims already believe. Absolving Muslims of radical or violent actions made in Islam’s name by other Muslims removes pressure from the Muslim community to self-regulate the actions and rhetoric of their own—and this is a critically important premise that you must understand. What you or I, or any other non-Muslim says, matters not. Islam is a way of life:

Until Islam pressures Islam to cease these types of actions, non-Muslims and Muslims will continue to talk past one another, and at some point, this is going to boil over, proving Huntington correct. Germany, renowned for their cultural and secular tolerance, is seeing more and more agitation towards Islam and Muslims in general. Following the Paris attacks, I’ll not be surprised to see France move in the same direction. The English Defense League (EDL) in Great Britain is another example. Many will call these movements racist, and admittedly I’ve not followed them close enough to really say if they are or aren’t, but I do know that the lack of cultural and national assimilation made by the Muslim community strengthens the argument made by these movements. Dearborn, Michigan is another example.

The notion that free speech applies differently to Muslims and non-Muslims should send shivers up your spine. Muslims are free to criticize and ridicule any other religion they want, but heaven forbid that action is reciprocated because elements within that faith might go bat-shit crazy and kill someone. How long before major areas of the world conclude it is easier to simply remove Muslims than to live with them?

What do you think? The bar is open.

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384 thoughts on “The Left’s Longing for a Moderate Islam

  1. Man….this blog entry had a slick professional feel to it.

    Nice job.

    “Dearborn, Michigan is another example.”

    I was wondering if you could expand on this.

  2. Interestingly Rabbit, one of the best radio shows I ever did was when G co-hosted. I give him grief (deservedly) but when he decides to go deep it is awesome. We constructed this from a comment he made in a prior thread.

    Now the only problem is he needs to show up to answer your questions. I can’t even play opposition cos I basically agree with the post.

    While we wait for G to chime in, I’d throw a question back at you. To what extent do you feel Muslims in Dearborn have assimilated? I watched a piece on the news yesterday that suggested Dearborn Muslims were outraged by the Paris terrorism.

  3. Excellent piece Gorilla.

    “The left has put a lot of effort—an effort not made by Muslims themselves—into separating Islam from Islamic extremists.”

    And the whole time whining that moderate Muslims aren’t speaking ouuuut. Stop doing it for them dummy.

  4. Every liberal should have their eyes rigged like in Clockwork Orange and have to read Anjem Choudary’s Twitter feed.

  5. It does appear rather slick. I do like Ramirez’s style, even if I don’t agree with the premise. This piece is blaming Islam for its radicals [ho hum] and liberals for downplaying the potential threat [yawn] of those radicals. The real silencer is the media regarding the intelligence community’s involvement that provides ALL the necessary ingredients and incites the potential terrorist. That’s public knowledge from court testimony and internal reports and leaked documents. Over 90 percent of the terrorist acts reported were made possible by the ABCs. Name a Muslim radical that wasn’t on a watch list and wasn’t in contact with at least one of these agencies. Silenced is how the west has incited and exacerbated the entire radical movement over the past decades. Who has been invading whom? Who is responsible for predator drones and hellfire missiles taking out civilians at wedding parties and funerals? Who provides training, intelligence, weapons, and guidance to these radicals? Who incited sectarian violence among all of them? Who supports leaders that led to their indoctrination?

    These people had no designs on destroying us. We had no right to fuck with them. Pride will take us out in the end. You cannot force your will on the world and expect passivity in response.

    Immigration of Muslims into western lands is only a threat because they believe in large families and we westerners are too GREEDY. Alfie mentioned the G word last thread. It applies to everything we do and steals effectively from our future. Western culture is producing less offspring and eventually the Muslims would outnumber us. That’s the threat. They’re not a good enough bloodline to rule, but fine for shedding of blood. That is what it comes down to and why the flag cartoon is accurate.

    Let’s talk about assimilation for a moment. What is good about assimilation anyway? We talk about how tolerant we are and how we prefer diversity, when in reality we want obedience and conformity. The real issue is this contrived solidarity bullshit. Call it what it is: Fascism on steroids. Everyone who follows these leaders is just as guilty of the bloodshed. Anyone who cannot see through this terror campaign and understand how fear is tightening the grip of government around our throats is beyond me. I cannot believe people are so out of touch.

  6. Anjem Choudary represents millions upon millions of Muslims. That’s the real point the Left doesn’t want you to understand or wants you to ignore – the common narrative Islam is a religion of peace which utter and complete horseshit. Choudary is just more honest than most Muslims. Muslims have never had a period of peace when they weren’t under an iron boot. Ever…

    There’s an unholy alliance the Left has with Islam, radical or otherwise, and it simply cannot be denied any longer if we are to eliminate this problem. The fact these “peaceful” Islamists wanted to establish a Mosque in the very building where damage occurred during 9/11 should have removed any doubt about where the loyalties of both the Muslim community and American Left lie. It’s the same motive you see with marginalizing police and perverting the law. And it is so transparent.

    I don’t believe Obama really a Muslim sympathizer. I think Obama a lover of Obama. But I do believe Obama of the opinion much like Rev. Jeremiah Wright that America is imperialistic and racist, with a good dose of White Christian and observant Jew hatred thrown in for good measure to use as bogeyman.

    Obama is a disciple of Reverend Jeremiah Wright. And he thinks very much like Wright.

  7. History teaches us that an over correction in response to radical Islam could have evastating humanitarian consequences.

    I’m hoping G shows up soon for discussion because the essay, while I agree with its basic premise, opens a Pandora’s box of possible conclusions.

  8. Damn! 😯 The lady was obnoxious. I hope that’s what she was going for. If so – NAILED IT!!!

    That video was a joke right, Tex? You actually believe that Hannity demon?

  9. I believe Hannity sees the world a whole lot clearer than someone who denies school shootings, 9/11, Israel’s right to exist, and there’s subliminal messages in ‘The Simpsons.’

    Did that answer your question? 😐

  10. Ms. Gabriel? Someone who lived through the Lebanese Civil War of the 70s – a country that radical Islam ran roughshod while the West watched like we’re doing now. You bet she’s got an axe to grind. Unlike any of us, she’s lived under the heel of Islam.

  11. Intersting how hell bent the Obama regime was on silencing Fox News and they’re the only station giving the moderate Muslims, reformers, and critics of radical Islam the time of day.

  12. Muffy Brigitte doesn’t come off as moderate anything. She’s alienating. She makes the debate harder, not easier.

    And yes this is typical of Fox, the network for the hard-of-hearing.

  13. “Muffy Brigitte doesn’t come off as moderate anything. She’s alienating. She makes the debate harder, not easier.”

    You never heard of her.

    You make the debate impossible. You insist on talking about moderate Muslims while radical Islam kills people for drawing cartoons.

  14. And yes this is typical of Fox, the network for the hard-of-hearing.

    Well, I admit a personal disdain for Chrissie Hayes lisping and Chaz Maddow’s snort, but if you think Sergeant Burrhead Schultz and Larry “Red” O’Donnell are part of the Ms. Manners group, you are indeed crazy.

  15. She’s not Muslim, so I doubt she’s a moderate Muslim.

    Any moderate Muslim watching how you’ve got her back isn’t going to be encouraged to speak out against radical Islam.

  16. Did that answer your question?

    Yes. Yes, it did. Actually I already knew the answer. 😀

    Hannity is a snake. His gestures reveal more than his words. He is always interesting to watch and ‘read’, but I don’t consider him honest or wise. Obviously he pleases his masters and does have a large following.

    Unlike any of us, she’s lived under the heel of Islam.

    I sense she’s taken on the character of that heel. Obviously she doesn’t have an unbiased bone in her body.


    Here’s a good one today from Gilad. He was born in Israel of Jewish parents but has been very critical of Israel and his fellow Jews for their hypocrisy and demonization of Arabs. He lives in the UK now and always pulls no punches, re: PC he writes,

    Political correctness should be understood as a political view that doesn’t allow political opposition. Bizarrely enough, the same definition could be applied to dictatorship. Yet, in reality, political correctness is far more repressive than dictatorship. While dictatorship entails a form of negation between a subject and an authority, political correctness is driven by self-suppression. It is a vicious instrument that defeats authenticity. It teaches you to ‘think before you say,’ instead of simply ‘saying what you think.’

    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/1/12/spitting-on-other-peoples-prophets-is-not-a-western-value

    I have to agree. The left isn’t the only problem when it comes to PC, which Alfie mentioned in the previous thread and got slammed for it.

  17. Poolman, I want to give you some really, really good advice. You should never mention someone’s a snake again without a pistol in your hand.

    I’ll be biased too when Muhammad comes knocking to kill my mother.

    The one thing I am absolutely sure I am not, Pool, is politically correct.

  18. The Forbes article offered me no new information. There is little teeth to the UN’s resolutions for now. The resolution it mentions has been in the works for some time. We should more worry about the things the western media isn’t telling us more about, like the TTIP and the TTP, the two trade agreements that will supersede US law. The globalist rulers are tightening their grip and they aren’t Muslims. Tptb don’t care about religion, except to use it against us and keep us divided. Quite successful a strategy indeed, as witnessed in these threads.

    But if you actually read the link I posted, you couldn’t disagree with the premise that western civilization cannot embrace Charlie Hebdo or glorify their work. It can tolerate them because of free speech, but the message doesn’t resonate with our ideals.

  19. That Brigitte What’s-her-bucket has the most grating voice and demeanor. No matter her message, she’s really hard to listen to. So is Hannity. But still not as bad that formulaic sneering, sarcastic, hyperbolic, dishonest, juvenile MSNBC shit — rhetorically proximate to a symphony for our blog host.

  20. “Immigration of Muslims into western lands is only a threat because they believe in large families and we westerners are too GREEDY. ”

    I assume that is sarcasm, because clearly their immigration IS a threat, and BECAUSE of their fertility. At current relative rates of reproduction, islamists will be the European majority in very little time, and what people fear is then being forced to change their ways of life to a muslim one. Not greed, fear – and well-founded. You want to live like they do? I surely don’t.

    re: it’s easier to remove muslims than to deal with them. I feel that way NOW.

    You have to stop the bleeding. Bottle them up in their own countries and do it NOW; there are already enough who have infiltrated the west that we will have to deal with them eventually. Let more immigrate, and it’s over, Buddy. Over.

    Ban all immigration from muslim countries, and don’t wait until it’s too late. All the West’s liberal immigration policy has done is to remove the cork that held the genie in the bottle. The West, and especially Europe, has removed the environmental pressures that limited their populations in the desert countries. Now it’s Katie-bar-the-door.

    Put the cork back in and tell them that when they work their shit out, they’re welcome back. Hopefully, they’ll all kill each other in the meantime.

  21. The Daily Mail reports that Obama was watching the playoffs during the Demonstration. Betsys Page links document Obama’s lack of interest in Islamic terrorism.

    I have written this before. Obama is an ideological foreigner. He doesn’t like Europeans because many were and are colonial powers which oppressed “his” people. His reps mealy mouthed reaction to France’s declaration of war illustrates our problem. Obama would have called the murders work place violence.

    Byron York wrote the Paris snub was “part of his general dismissive attitude towards Europe. ..The other signal sent by his French omission is that this administration’s continuing failure to appreciate the nature and scope of the Islamist threat….They also represent a political ideology that threatens Western freedom and civilization. The ostensible leader of the free world should want to show solidarity against such a profound menace that will require Western unity to defeat.

    On Monday, a reporter asked Mr. Earnest about a counter terrorism summit the White House is convening next month in the context of the battle against Islamist extremism. Mr. Earnest corrected that the conference would discuss ‘all forms of violent extremism’….Like Obama’s no show this reveals a startling and dangerous failure to be honest about radical Islam.”

    Obama was raised a virtual Muslim in Indonesia, and that gives his heart a soft spot for Muslims. How many of us think the call to prayers is one of the most beautiful sounds in the world?

    Obama’s allies who share his beliefs impose political correctness to dilute and remove our freedoms just as an Islamic Sharia law would do. I agree with Poolman’s quote.

    So far, the anti- Islamic immigration demonstrations are not as large as the counter demonstrations, but they are growing. Now another Swiss branch has announced it will start protesting and organizing.

    I have other things on my mind right now. It is -20 degrees the temperature at which our water pipes sometimes freeze when the wind switches to south. I stayed home yesterday to be sure nothing happened. So far, so good. The temperature near one pipe was 23 when it was -15 a week or so ago, This morning, it is 40, a good sign the air outside is calm..

  22. Hate to sound like Poolman but I’m getting sick and tired of the Hebdo thing being morphed into some antisemitic event.

    It’s not always about YOU Bibi. My wife has read rumblings that the Jews killed in the supermarket were killed by the COPS who showered the market with bullets, not by the hostage taker.

    This event was primarily about stifling free speech, not killing Jews.

  23. The left isn’t the only problem when it comes to PC, which Alfie mentioned in the previous thread and got slammed for it

    As evidenced by Hannity’s faux patriotism as he tosses a football around the set. Such a fine American. I swear the man reminds me of Lou Costello.

  24. Hate to sound like Poolman…

    Hate? 😆 I am an upstanding citizen, a husband of the same wife for thirty-eight years, a father of two (my eldest was 33 yesterday), a grandfather of three, small business owner with 40 years experience within my chosen field, tax payer, church member and part-time employed there, well thought of and respected in my community. You should LOVE to sound like me! 😆

  25. The Jewish supermarket hostage taking was a coincidence? It was the Cops that killed the hostages so it wasn’t a deliberate act of anti-Semitism?

  26. “Hate to sound like Poolman but I’m getting sick and tired of the Hebdo thing being morphed into some antisemitic event.” -R

    Possibly the most ignorant, pigheaded thing I’ve ever read on here.

    Lol….the Jewish business was a random target!!!

    Hell yeah….fuck a bagal shop up…nothing stifles free speech more then destroying a kosher food joint.

    Rutherford you are insane and your wife is about ignorant as fuck if you thing an Al Queda attack ON A KOSHER FOOD STORE ISN’T ANTISEMETIC.

  27. The cops killed the Jews he says. As if All Queda was going to allow the Jews to live.

    Wow.

    Liberals are fucking in denial.

    The Klan takes over a soul food restaurant. Ahh….forget it….

  28. Rutherford you are insane and your wife is about ignorant as fuck if you thing an Al Queda attack ON A KOSHER FOOD STORE ISN’T ANTISEMETIC.

    Funny. I don’t recall ever insulting your wife.

    To be clear, all my wife told me was that the hostages being killed by the Muslim was being quietly reevaluated and that the cops may have botched the rescue. She never addressed the anti-Semitic angle at all. That was me alone.

    Ok, I admit to being a bit bone headed but when I first heard the guy was held up in a Jewish market I DID think it was random. Just a public place to make a statement. I always think of Muslims hating the west so I had a brain fart that they hate Jews too.

    Be that as it may, the kosher market attack was secondary to the Hebdo slaughter … that is until Bibi sucks up all the air in the room and a compliant US media plays right along.

  29. BTW, homeboy claimed affiliation with ISIL, not AQAP. It was the two brothers who claimed affiliation with AQAP. In fact I’m not even sure AQAP claimed any responsibility for the market hostage situation as they did for the Hebdo slaughter.

    Lastly, if the goal was to kill Jews, homie would have done what the Kuwashi (sp) brothers did. He would have gone in there and killed people, not taken hostages.

  30. Fearless, by Boggie which I posted a while ago is a good rough summary of the Christian religion.

    John Oats of Hall and Oats conceived the semi-religions theme of “Out of Touch”. What does it profit a man if he gains the world if he loses his soul ? Many liberals have lost their souls, and they are adrift as they are “reaching out for something to hold.” They are holding sand

    Yes, the primary objective of many of these terrorist attacks is to destroy freedom of speech and other activities through fear. The French attacks were cold blooded murder by Muslims who hate Jews and other non-Muslims.

    “Hell yeah” the Jewish business was just a random attack. The murderers would have attacked a Mosque if they had gone a few blocks more. It was an accident that the victims were Jews. The Jews who are leaving France and other countries are just as mistaken as Mila Kunis’s family was. The Muslims are capitalizing on an already nanscent anti-Semetism.

    Liberals are certainly out of touch. I am beginning to root for the anti-immigration crowds who are demonstrating. Some may have Nazi or Fascist roots, but they still seem less dangerous than Jihadists.

  31. The cops killed the Jews he says. As if All Queda was going to allow the Jews to live.

    Let me repeat. There was no “attack” on the market. Amedy (sp) held up in the market. If murder was the prime objective, as it was at the Hebdo office, most of the hostages would not have gotten out alive, which they did.

    Sadly your eagerness to take the moral high ground is interfering with your understanding of the facts — just like a typical liberal. 😆

  32. “I always think of Muslims hating the west so I had a brain fart that they hate Jews too.”

    Muslims hate the west because they hate Jews.

    R, you’re no good at masking your own anti Semitism. I think the if they were really after Jews they could’ve just shot” shtick is the dumbest thing I’ve read from you. And that is saying A LOT!

  33. Tigre puhleeze. You use the time honored American way of calling anyone who doesn’t kiss Israel’s ass an antisemite.

    I know English is a second language for you but let me try again. Someone out to kill Jews DOES IT. He doesn’t hold himself up in a hostage situation for 8 fucking hours.

    Yes I fully admit I was wrong not to see the kosher connection but what happened at the market is quite different from what happened at Hebdo. If you can’t see that, you’re as stupid as the day is long.

  34. No amount of ad hom directed at me will fix how profoundly stupid you are for not seeing it as an act of anti-Semitism or the ridiculousness of your point (i.e. can’t have this morph into an accusation of anti-Semitism :roll:).

    Their real objective was of course to improve the quality of the market’s Kosher foods, not terrorize.

    “Hey everybody, had Boko Haram really wanted to institute its will it would’ve killed the young schoolchildren rather than kidnap and rape them. Hell, it could’ve been any school anyway. Let’s not let this thing morph into an act of terror.”

  35. It’s my understanding that the prime objective of the intentional attack on the Kosher market was to aid the offensive cartoon terrorists held up in the printing facilities. To “negotiate” their escape.

    The “botched” rescue at the Kosher market was a coordinated effort to apprehend the radical Islamist holding people hostage. The “quiet reevaluation” is a reflection of poor journalism not the French authorities covering their asses.

    The cartoon terrorists were AQ, the Kosher market attacker Islamic State. I regarded that as the consensus before now.

    Netanyahu if guilty of anything it’s probably along the lines of what the Ferguson-Trayvon -Gardner protesters and the Obama regime does when it comes to their own perceived victimization only Netanyahu has more to work with.

    “This event was primarily about stifling free speech, not killing Jews.”

    This event was about radical Islam.

  36. Of course none of it happened anyway, right? We’ve seen the sound stage on the Universal lot and the outtakes. They hired a moderate Muslim guy to play the French cop for political subtext but forgot to load up the blood packets. The VFX guy was fired.

  37. Where did the hold-up motive for the Kosher market come from? I really haven’t heard that and I hate to get my news from a lefty blog with a conspiracy theory bent. And I’m a little behind the teevee people but I did have the pleasure of hearing CNNCuomo refer to the guy as an African-American.

  38. The way I see it, there’s a distinction without difference between Al Qaeda and ISIL/ISIS. It’s like say trying to distinguish between the Aryan Brotherhood and the Congressional Black Caucus.

  39. African-American. LOL. If you let a Lib talk long enough, they invariably lead into profound stupidity and worse analogies.

    Last night one of the Muslim Appeasers and beholden Obama Campaign Toe Sucker was trying to excuse that the head loppers are not Islam and that was like equating the Republican Congress to Timothy McVeigh. O’Reilly started laughing at this hack’s stupidity. Classic Leftism.

  40. “Amedy (sp) held up in the market.”

    Zoinks. I read this as though you meant he HELD UP the market as in gimme all your money. Thank goodness. I was actually slightly alarmed about the media crazy, but now just slightly confused about what you think happened.

    Are you saying that the market attacker was a part of the Hedbo offices massacre or no?

  41. I just had the best experience in a doctor’s “office” since the birth of my second child. And I will apologize up front to the women for this childish, puerile thrill even if I am approaching 55, dirty old man that I am.

    I went to electro physiologist for a heart/carotid echo – yearly checkup. This incredibly pretty tech, couldn’t have been as old as my own daughters, was rubbing that nasty, greasy cold knob across my chest – and much of it you lay on your side (breathe/hold, shallow breaths…blah blah blah.

    Apparently, she’s either incredibly naive or I am incredibly lucky and perverted, or both. 🙂 Because she rolled me over on my side and I my eyes couldn’t have been two inches from her ‘Yum Yum in scrubs’ which as she stretched over to the other side of my neck. I think all the blood rushed out of my head.

    She goes: “Your breathing is shallow.”

    “I think it’s because my heart stopped.” 😛

    I’d get one of those every day now.

  42. “I admit to being a bit bone headed but when I first heard the guy was held up in a Jewish market I DID think it was random. ” -R

    I can’t deal with stupid of this strength and magnitude.

  43. Muffy i meant he held up IN the market, not that he tried to rob the place. Everything you said in your long cimment confirmed what took me 3 comments to get across.

    Hell I dont even think Tigre and Rabbit even know the facts of the story.

  44. I can’t deal with stupid of this strength and magnitude.

    It is difficult, isn’t it? :lol Like a Granite Mountain full of crevasses and cracks, virtually impossible to climb.

  45. Lol. If she’s as cute as you say, it was likely intended. I don’t think naive cute girls over the age of sixteen exist in our sexualized society. Sounds like she’s bringing in repeat business. 😆


    This weather has been messing with me this week. Yesterday was supposed to be rainy and indeed it began that way, but quickly cleared leaving sunny skies. I stayed home figuring I couldn’t work in the rain. Today was supposed to be mostly clear and indeed began that way but as soon as I got out to the job and started to work, it clouded over and began to rain. And rain. And rain. I got soaked and decided to go to the local bar and eatery to have some lunch and wait it out. It didn’t let up over an hour so I went back to the site and gathered my stuff up in the rain.

    Five minutes from the site, the sky cleared, the sun came out, and now it’s clear. 😆 I guess I wasn’t supposed to finish that job this week. Now I can spend the afternoon with you guys. 🙂

  46. If she’s as cute as you say, it was likely intended.

    She was and for one fleeting moment, vanity set in. And then the reality of being 55 took over. Naive. I doubt she had a clue. I was trying my best to prolong the test with profoundly stupid questions. Can you believe this wall paper? Do you like football? What’s your favorite color? Like a blabbering school boy.

    One thing I haven’t lost, Poolman. Well two. My libido and my imagination.

    Sounds like she’s bringing in repeat business.

    She earned mine. I fully expect with my juvenile, bad behavior to be booted back the old woman next time. To be young again.

  47. From one of the sites I frequent and certainly worthy of consideration:

    The timing of the attacks is curious, some might even say convenient, or worse. To demonstrate why, take a look at this sequence of events, keeping in mind the propensity of Mossad (and other intelligence agencies) for carrying out terror attacks and framing Muslims for them.

    1.) August 18: Sophisticated gunpoint attack by ‘Kalashnikov-wielding, commando-looking men’ – which police suspect to be “an inside job” – robs an unnamed Saudi prince’s convoy of 200,000 Euros and ‘sensitive documents’ in Paris. There is not a single follow-up report in the media about the armed robbery.

    2.) September 24: ISIS releases video showing the beheading of French hostage Herve Gourdel, after a previous video demanding an end to French involvement in airstrikes on Syria.

    3.) November 9: French government is on high alert after unexplained drone flights over nuclear power stations. These illegal flights, using highly sophisticated drone technology, began in October of last year and have continued, with one recent report of flights on January 3.

    4.) November 19: ISIS releases video showing French jihadists burning passports and calling for terror in France.

    5.) November 23: Israeli PM Netanyahu warns France that French recognition of Palestinian statehood would be a “grave mistake”.

    6.) December 2: France’s Lower House of Parliament votes in favor of recognizing Palestine.

    7.) December 6: Hollande unexpectedly meets Putin in Moscow, defying the anti-Russia brigade.

    8.) December 20: Burundi-born Frenchman attacks police station in Tours with knife, shouting “Allahu Akbar”, injuring three before being shot dead.

    9.) December 22: Driver shouting “Allahu Akbar” runs down pedestrians in five parts of Dijon, injuring 13.

    10.) December 31: France votes in favor of Palestinian Statehood

    11.) January 5: Hollande urges for an end to sanctions on Russia, defying the anti-Russia brigade once again.

    12.) January 5: Saudi crown prince meets the French defense minister in Riyadh.

    13.) January 5: ISIS attacks a Saudi border post for the first time, suggesting the terrorists intend to spread the chaos into Saudi Arabia.

    14.) January 6: The French military announces it is sending an aircraft carrier to the Gulf to fight ISIS in Iraq.

    15.) January 6: France warns Palestinians: Don’t resubmit UN statehood bid.

    16.) January 7: Amchai Stein, the deputy editor of Israeli IBA Channel 1, just happens to be at the scene of the Charlie Hebdo attacks and posts photos of the shooting on Twitter.

    17.) January 10: Announcement of a video released by ISIS ‘days ago’, with a French jihadist calling for fellow jihadis to tear down France.


    Now Turkey is saying it was a false flag operation.

    Of course I know it and the independent media is all over it. It is also helping separate the real independents from the shills. It’s all good and entertaining.

    But you guys go ahead and side with the global fascists who own the snews and believe its all about the Jews. Go ahead and believe those you’ve placed your all of your faith in. :mrgreen:

  48. “Huck, they didn’t need Aulaqi’s death to justify the attack. That they did point to Aulaqi tells me this was more than likely AQAP than ISIL, which is more important than some might think. That reason revolves around the global jihad and who’s the vanguard of it. Specifically pointing towards AQ demonstrates their relevance in an environment saturated with ISIL.”

    The guy who arguably knows more about terrorism and terrorist groups than anyone on this board seems to think that there is a difference between AQAP and ISIL.

    Then again, maybe he’s just good at critical thinking. Anyone want to weigh in and point out to Gorilla just how wrong he is?

  49. “Are you saying that the market attacker was a part of the Hedbo offices massacre or no?”

    Is there any evidence it was?

    I wasn’t going to even ask that question. But I think, in light of the above comment by G, that it is an important question to ask.

  50. The way I see it, there’s a distinction without difference between Al Qaeda and ISIL/ISIS. It’s like say trying to distinguish between the Aryan Brotherhood and the Congressional Black Caucus.” – Tex

    I get your point, but there’s a difference. Maybe not so much in ideology, but certainly in strategy.

    It is an important point that this was an AQAP operation, and yes, the Market hostage situation was connected to the Hebdo attack as well. The ISIL comment about the guy in the market is more journalistic liberties, I think, than fact.

    I’ve been tied up all day and have to travel the next couple days, but I will make an effort to get into the forum to answer questions and review comments.

    Busy time right now…

  51. The ISIL comment about the guy in the market is more journalistic liberties, I think, than fact.

    G I disagree for one reason. Amedy said on video he sympathized with ISIL and had the ISIL flag on the wall behind him. Why he claimed inspiration from one group while his partners in crime claimed inspiration from another I do not understand.

  52. Hmmmm, interesting…

    A Danish linguist has over three years analyzed 10 religions basic texts and concludes that the texts of Islam stands out by encouraging terrorism and violence more than other religions. Danish imams can not take criticism seriously.

    Islam’s texts calls in much greater extent than other religions because texts for terror and struggle, concludes Tina Magaard, who graduated from the Sorbonne in Paris as a Ph.D. in text analysis and intercultural communication, and as a three-year research project has compared 10 religions basic texts.

    ‘The texts of Islam is clearly distinct from the other religions texts by increasingly calling for violence and aggression towards other faiths. There are also direct incitement to terrorism. It has long been a taboo in Islam research, but it is a fact that you have to relate to, “says Tina Magaard.

    Furthermore, the Qur’an hundreds of invitations to fight against other faiths.

    “If it is true that many Muslims view the Qur’an as God’s own words that can not be interpreted or rephrased, we have a problem. It is indisputable that the texts encourage violence and terror. Therefore it must be legitimate to ask Muslims themselves how they relate to the text, if they take it at face value, “says Tina Magaard.

  53. The guy who arguably knows more about terrorism and terrorist groups than anyone on this board seems to think that there is a difference between AQAP and ISIL.

    Not me. Mine was to set up a line to gig Rutherford. I guess you missed the shot at the CBC, hey giant? Lack of critical thinking isn’t the only shortcoming. You must be a real drag at the Ramadan U.N. festival. Even the Mussies got a sense of humor.

    The man without one wit of humor and joy want to try and top it? 😛

  54. It is an important point that this was an AQAP operation, and yes, the Market hostage situation was connected to the Hebdo attack as well. The ISIL comment about the guy in the market is more journalistic liberties, I think, than fact.

    Yeah, stay on script. 🙄 You don’t want to confuse the your flavor of radicalized Muslim jihadist. I mean, let’s give credit where credit is due. This was entirely al CIA duh. These boys were supposedly sponsored by Awlaki, the American Yemeni imam taken out by missile over 3 years ago, if you can believe that? 😉 So nice to tie this all neatly together. We did find an ID! I mean, how original lucky is that? 😈

    So now instead of attacking US assets this brand or morph are making coordinated attacks on strictly Jewish interests in France? Is that the gist? Why?

    Because France was too tolerant of Islam?
    Because France was ready to recognize Palestine?
    Because France went on their own to Russia?

  55. Pools I didn’t and probably won’t watch Nate but your second link strikes me as silly. If the cop received his head wound from bullet fragments vs a direct hit, what difference does it make so long as Kuachi fired the gun and the cop died as a result?

  56. Either you didn’t read the whole piece and watch the video, or you did not understand the author’s point. The point is ALL the media is knowingly lying. The cop was NOT shot AT ALL in the video.

  57. Poolman, one of the things the author conjectures is that the gun missed its target but that bullet fragments bouncing off the pavement might have struck the cop.

    That being the case, it’s a distinction without a difference.

  58. “Why he claimed inspiration from one group while his partners in crime claimed inspiration from another I do not understand.”

    Give me a fucking break. The inspiration is exactly the same. To set up a radical Islamic Caliphate, liquidate Israel and kill people.

    Mensheviks and Bolsheviks both hated freedom while the Crips and the Bloods want to sell drugs.

    The distinction between the two groups is only pertinent (sometimes) for those actively trying to gain intelligence in order to fight them.

  59. Look Rabbit I make no claim to be an FP expert but my understanding is AQ is more interested in sheer terror than is ISIL. ISIL has been more interested in gaining and keeping territory. Their tactics have been different and there has been a slight rivalry between them. I believe this would mark their first cooperative venture, assuming the news reports of Amedy and the Koachi brothers’ allegiances are true.

  60. “AQ is more interested in sheer terror than is ISIL. . . ?”

    Filming decapitations and circulating the video is something less than “sheer” terror?

    Whatever you do though, don’t label them anti-Semites. That would be bigoted.

  61. Obviously, you didn’t watch the associated video PROVING the gunless, radioless cop was NOT struck by a bullet OR any fragments from said bullet. Not in the exchange shown as ALL the media is claiming he did. If the ‘bullet’ missed and struck the concrete in front of him (as the original video shows), that live round would have done considerable damage to the concrete.

    Freudian slip reveals truth?

    Watch the clips before they are removed. The following link provides more technical details…

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/12/fiasco-france-lie-to-me-once/

  62. That’s not what I’m referring to dumbass. I’m talking about your whole MSNBC-induced missive on the subject. You’re like a petulant child that can only repeat what he’s told by the cool kids.

  63. Tigre you clearly aren’t even watching news reports. Yes. ISIL is a terror group. No shit Sherlock. Now let me repeat, they are more interested in capturing territory than doing pinpoint acts like the Hebdo kill.

    Additional reports say AQ and ISIL have a minor rivalry. In fact I’ve heard one motive among many for the Hebdo kill was AQ trying to get back the spotlight from ISIL.

    I’ve even heard reports that Amedy was such an idiot he wasn’t really sure who he was in cahoots with. The ISIL flag in his video may not be that significant.

  64. What missive? I honestly don’t know wtf you’re talking about. If anything, G’s post with which I mainly agree is counter to what you hear on MSNBC or anywhere besides Fox or Bill Maher for that matter.

  65. Poolman jeesh, the author entertains the possibility that fragments hit the cop. I will say the author does his best not to sound like a conspiracy nut.

    But since we’re on conspiracy, how do you know his video evidence isn’t doctored?

  66. WTF???

    “Tigre puhleeze. You use the time honored American way of calling anyone who doesn’t kiss Israel’s ass an antisemite.

    I know English is a second language for you but let me try again. Someone out to kill Jews DOES IT. He doesn’t hold himself up in a hostage situation for 8 fucking hours.

    Yes I fully admit I was wrong not to see the kosher connection but what happened at the market is quite different from what happened at Hebdo. If you can’t see that, you’re as stupid as the day is long.”

    Duh.

  67. “G’s post with which I mainly agree is counter to what you hear on MSNBC or anywhere besides Fox or Bill Maher for that matter.”

    You mean your pro-Muslim/anti-Semite stance? No shit.

  68. ROTFLMAO You’ve clearly had a full cup of stupid today.

    First if you are “anti-Muslim” then you are a fucking bigot. Similarly if you are blanket “pro-Muslim” then you have your head up your ass.

    Islam has a fundamental problem that makes all of its adherents vulnerable to some really nutty shit. To be what I would call a decent Muslim, you have to distance yourself from some of its precepts. Dropping Sharia would be a good start.

    But the tendency on this board to condemn Islam wholesale is wrong headed. The problem is complicated. Wiping out all Muslims ain’t the answer.

  69. I was thinking this morning (a dangerous thing to do without my coffee), and it dawned on me the utter hypocrisy and cowardice of the supposed movers and shakers in the West these days – and that goes for the largest part of the general populace of America and Europe too. I sometimes wonder if our military guys and intelligence, you know the people that actually do put their asses on the line, look at what’s become of the West and wonder, “Why bother?”

    We’ve got one million plus that will gather, believing their useless parade really accomplished something? What? That’s like Michelle Obama’s #hashtag# bring back our girls. That’s like asking our military to respond after 9/11 by hanging out their flags instead of smoking terrorist ass.

    Do we really think this public square orgy made Islamists shake in its boots? I got news for the world. That empowered the butchers. They look at us as weak and for the taking. This is what Obama foreign policy brings. We release butchers back into the populace to kill more of us that we’ve already shed blood to capture, with Leftists teaching that gives us some high moral standing. Crazy Fools.

    We globally mourn over twelve revolting atheists getting their heads blown off while an estimated 2,000 Nigerians are killed by Boko Haram including strapping a suicide bomb to a ten year old girl exploding in a public market, and nary a peep. Whole villages wiped out. There’s over 200,000 dead in Syria alone. They’re just black and insignificant. African-Americans are the only blacks that count while they raze their own neighborhoods.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/14/boko-haram-deadliest-attack-baga-nigeria-politics-insurgency

    We’ve got wholesale slaughter of thousands of Christians and assorted Muslim offshoots in at least five Muslim countries I count, and the Western Media yawns while we gather at the flagpole and sing “I am Charlie.” What an cowardly abomination.

    And what do most Europeans, Jew haters, and American Leftists save their biggest grievance? Netanyahu had the unmitigated gall to march in that shameful march, never mind he was the biggest BULLSEYE by far in the crowd – perhaps the only person out of millions really endangered.

    Go back to slumbering Europe. You’re not worth saving.

    When the West is willing to drop a Daisy Cutter smack dab in the middle of one of those Parisian “No Go” zones, get back with me and then I too will hold up a “I am Charlie” sign.

  70. Rutherford? I have a couple of questions. One that will require frank answers and introspection on your behalf.

    You do realize that the one significant Muslim player in the East that has been truthful about Islamists besides Israel, has received little if any support from our useful idiot for President, don’t you? In fact, this useful idiot administration actively promoted the Muslim Brotherhood while belittling the current President of Egypt, El-Sisi? Smart. 😉

    Are you aware Barack Obama is now trying to take credit for the low gas prices across this nation? Did you know that drilling on U.S. federal lands has actually dropped 6% since Barack Obama became President, and that’s the only drilling Barack Obama has a measure of control? You do realize the stupidest woman in the world, Sarah Palin, has now been indisputably been proven right twice ()(oil and Russia) while Barack Obama is left to smell his finger he scratches his ass with?

    Is there ever a day where you wake up in your heart of hearts and realize Barack Obama is not really a ‘mediocre’ President or gifted man?

  71. The cup of stupid was drawn from your carafe:

    “We should cease calling that subset Muslim. They should be regarded as a cult and they should be dealt with as a criminal syndicate, PC talk be damned.” -R

    “Some of us are trying to separate this from mainstream Islam.”

    Cult? Why?

    How about militant Muslims? Seems fitting.” -Tigre

    Response?

    Same as all others. None.

    Oh yeah. You didn’t get this from MSNBC. That was just coincidence again.

    Any idea why Obama won’t use the term Islamic terrorist? Could it be seen as some kind of condemnation? Why is it a “cult” to you when it clearly is not? What are you protecting? The good Muslims?

    p.s. nobody is calling for killing wiping out all Muslims.

  72. Tex, simple question. Is there no value to symbolism?

    Symbolism in and of itself is self-defeating if it’s not accompanied by action. And in the Muslim mind, symbolism without action is waving a white flag.

    What’s the end game of holding up a “Je suis Charlie” sign, Rutherford? I mean, really? What is it these people hope to accomplish? That this large gathering is somehow going to stop madmen from gunning down innocents? Strapping bombs on a 10 year old to walk into an open market and explode? Stop the facilitation of Sharia implementation and the establishment of a Caliphate.

    It’s nonsense unless these folks are going to use this gathering to promote fighting back with extreme prejudice. What effect do you think these French women stinking of perfume wearing fur coats and holding a wine glass in one hand while holding a sign I am Charlie in the other going to have on Abu holding the Kalashnikov assault rifle? Frighten him? Get him to reconsider?

  73. Rutherford? You’re old like I am. Do you remember back to the very first Gulf War? Do you remember we had about 500,000 troops in the theater of battle (and Gorilla can correct me if I’m wrong because this is straight from old memory)?

    One of my most vivid memories of that war is the events that took place immediately after we conducted round-the-clock bombing of Saddam’s troops. We never let up. If memory serves, that war took about 40 days. And all but a few of those were the continual blistering of Saddam’s troops. These poor bastards were having their damn ear drums blown out of their skulls when they weren’t losing their heads – AND IT NEVER STOPPED. EVER. Short of nukes, we pulled out all the stops.

    Oh sure. We had allies. But let’s not kid ourselves. America did the lifting – with European assistance – the rest of it was politics.

    We didn’t debate that war about how inhumane it was to reign fire, burn these bastards to death, blow them to hell where they belonged. Remember the Highway of Death? We encircled these assholes and mowed every mother lovin’ one of them down. Cars, tanks, troops walking. Didn’t matter. G.W. Sr, a military Vet who had seen action himself and no wilting violet like we’ve got now, had to call the dogs off. It was a slaughter. And it had to be.

    Where is that country now? We’ve got the finest, most powerful military force on earth. Why are we not using it? Why are we not allowing our military to call the shots and conduct the war free of politic? Unleash hell – Roman Empire style while we’ve still got the chance to end this without massive bloodshed on American soil.

    Don’t be so stupid to believe this garbage about we’re creating more jihadists. Bullshit. They’re already there in waiting and have been for hundreds of years. These people are indoctrinated from the crib to hate us and I can prove that without dispute.

    You love your daughter, don’t you? I think you do. You’ve got a choice. Them? Or her? Because the minute these madmen get fissile material, your own life is in imminent danger. Chances good, the more prominent the city, the greater the danger. And Mohammad’s soldiers will not hesitate for one nanosecond to use it. Not one.

    Don’t kid yourselves. When these demons tell you they love death like you love life, they mean it.

  74. Yes, Tex. Europe is slumbering, but Europeans are beginning to wake up, and if their leaders don’t listen, they will take matters into their own hands.

  75. Or this in which thousands of civilians fought and died. It has happened before and will again under the right circumstances. Europeans are some of the most irritable people in the world.

  76. Europe is slumbering, but Europeans are beginning to wake up, and if their leaders don’t listen, they will take matters into their own hands.

    I actually predicted just that probably more than a decade ago at another site, James, because they’re is a history of that. But I’m convinced Sarajevo may be why it will no longer happen. I am somewhat surprised that Europe, specifically France, Norway and Germany, already haven’t exploded. But perhaps the Europe you and I remember doesn’t exist anymore.

    Of course, if it does happen we’ll bomb the Christian and secular sects under a President like Slick Willy or Benevolent Barack and pay homage to the poor Muslims, while we pat ourselves on the back for the humanity and grovel to the U.N..

  77. Another head hangs lowly,
    Child is slowly taken.
    And the violence caused such silence.
    Who are we mistaken?
    But you see, it’s not me, it’s not my family.
    In your head, in your head they are fighting,
    With their tanks and their bombs,
    And their bombs and their guns.
    In your head, in your head, they are crying…
    In your head, in your head,
    Zombie, zombie, zombie,
    Hey, hey, hey. What’s in your head,
    In your head,
    Zombie, zombie, zombie?
    Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou…
    Another mother’s breakin’
    Heart is taking over
    When the violence causes silence,
    We must be mistaken.
    It’s the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
    In your head, in your head they’re still fighting,
    With their tanks and their bombs,
    And their bombs and their guns.

  78. Ha Ha Rutherford! I know what you mean. She is hot.

    You might be right, Tex, but Europeans are of the same stock who have staged violent revolutions including our own for generations.

    Several countries report isolated violence against Muslims. Maybe nothing will happen. Maybe it is too late, but their leaders are beginning to worry. It might be more like a Tea Party instead of violent revolution.

  79. The shootings were staged. End of story. Five reasons:

    1) Faked shooting of injured police officer with an AK-47: no blood, nothing. His brain should have been scattered and splattered everywhere!,

    2) Terrorists leave behind their ID?? You believe this?? The terrorist remembered to pick up the shoe outside the passenger door before he got in but somehow dropped his ID after they abandoned the car? [because all terrorists make sure to carry IDs to a massacre :roll:]

    3) After a successful attack with an easy get away, they abandon their car and hijack another, and then hole themselves up in a printing press building in Dammartin-en-Goele and are reported as saying, before they were killed, that they wanted to be martyrs. You couldn’t script this any better.

    4) Hayat Boumeddienne somehow stealthily escapes with the hostages as they are running from the grocery store unnoticed amongst the chaos after the Amedy Couliably is shot and killed. The authorities have NO idea where she currently is.

    5) Police Commissioner commits suicide in his office while preparing a report of the attack. How convenient and timely. There was a media blackout of this story. Why? Not relevant? This in itself is suppression of free speech. N’est pas Charlie?

    If you believe all the media reports on the events that unfolded last week in Paris then you are one of the 1.6 million idiots, zombies and flat-out dumb people who marched on Sunday to stand-up for freedom.

    You are proof of the successful mind-control and zombification the Illuminati have been practicing using varying techniques including tainted food and mass vaccination and fluoridation that has been shown to lower IQ.

    The blatant and massive ignorance of the free speech march, when many of the World leaders standing in the front line represent the worst offenders, is astounding.

  80. The authorities have NO idea where she currently is.

    Eh, not quite. The authorities know where she was NOT — she was not in the market with Amedy. She is probably in Syria but intelligence already has photos of her at an airport and they have a timetable that places her anywhere but the kosher market.

    Police Commissioner commits suicide in his office while preparing a report of the attack. How convenient and timely. There was a media blackout of this story. Why? Not relevant? This in itself is suppression of free speech. N’est pas Charlie?

    Again, no. I don’t remember where I read it but I read about the suicide a couple of days ago. This is one of several accounts. Google is your friend. No media blackout. http://www.mediaite.com/online/french-police-commish-commits-suicide-after-meeting-family-of-charlie-hebdo-victim/

  81. We’re all Charlie, well all except for the women folk! 😆

    According to one truth-twisting newspaper, American leaders weren’t the only ones missing from Sunday’s Paris rally.

    An ultra-Orthodox Jewish newspaper in Israel photoshopped all females from a front page photo of 40 world leaders gathered at a rally supporting victims of the shooting at the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo.

    The phony photo from the Monday edition of HaMevaser (The Announcer) completely erased German Chancellor Angela Merkel and cropped out Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo, Denmark Prime Minister Helle Thorington-Schmidt and EU Foreign Affairs and Security Chief Federica Mogherini.

    The Israeli newspaper Haaretz wrote in an editorial that the anti-femme Photoshop is part of HaMevaser’s longstanding Orthodox policy to not publish pictures or even the names of women in its pages.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/israel-paper-removes-female-leaders-paris-rally-photo-article-1.2076602?ref=Outbrain&ADLocation=footer&ADPosition=2

    Step aside Saudi Arabia, you’re treating your women too nicely. 😆

  82. Interesting Poolman, MSNBC reported that Haaretz itself cropped the photo or maybe I heard the story wrong.

    Either way it just shows that while extremist Jews may not kill people, they’re still batshit crazy.

  83. Either way it just shows that while extremist Jews may not kill people

    Back up there fella. Make an assessment of what you just wrote. Who’s not doing their googling?

    We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish.

    Either way extremist is a poor term. Everyone is an extremist. You are the most extreme Rutherford that I’ve ever encountered. 🙂 The fact is Jews are some of the smartest people on the planet and have for centuries maintained a subculture mostly hidden in plain sight.

  84. Pools: “the gunless, radioless cop was NOT struck by a bullet OR any fragments from said bullet. Not in the exchange shown as ALL the media is claiming he did. If the ‘bullet’ missed and struck the concrete in front of him (as the original video shows), that live round would have done considerable damage to the concrete.”

    Not so. Depends entirely upon the angle of incidence. At a shallow angle, it is entirely possible that a projectile could bounce off the concrete with minimal damage to the concrete – and the bullet – and retain nearly all its original energy. Higher angles would cause a “digging-in” effect, damaging the concrete and the bullet. Frags would also be created, but doubtful they would penetrate the skull. Would go in the skin, though…

  85. Several years ago a local cop got into a shootout with a scumbag from up North. The gunman lay on the street prone, making a small target and being very difficult for the cop to despatch.

    The officer was post-military and began to fire into the concrete in front of the shooter, spraying his eyes with concrete frags and making him flinch. One bullet bounced, caught said shooter in the skull, and that was the end of it.

  86. I see differences in the chin and nose. Second, why in gods name would a supposed dead man, cooperating with a conspiracy, risk being spotted in a crowd?

    Either there is a resemblance or its photoshop. It’s a fucking shame we can’t even trust photos anymore.

    But most importantly, Pools are you a grown man or are you really your grandson posing as you?

  87. This Charlie Hebdo fiasco has made for strange bedfellows. Bob Beckel, uber lib, and I are on the same page. 🙂

    We both think that “symbolic parade of linking arms” was pretty much a waste of time unless we intend to forcibly act.

    I for one am glad the racist Eric Holder was not included so I am not going to knock President Useful Idiot for not including that pig. I’m going to tip my cap for not including Holder. There is absolutely nothing good of that lying, tyrannical POS.

  88. Like I told Poolman the other day, Rutherford. I give him credit for being consistent and predictable. But like Dead Rabbit, I find Poolman’s consistent conspiratorial accusations libelous, cruel and inhuman – truly the lowest form of gutter snipe. It’s best to ignore this stupidity, IMO.

  89. In case you folks haven’t been paying attention, France has a MAJOR hypocrisy problem on its hands.

    They celebrate the new Charlie Hebdo issue while “denying the holocaust” is illegal. Not frowned upon – AGAINST THE LAW. A French comedian was arrested for antisemitic jokes.

    Now am I an antisemite because I think the law should be applied consistently?

    I have another question for you folks who roll your eyes when “hate crimes” and “hate speech” is applied to blacks as victims of it. Feel the same way when Jews are the victim?

  90. Anybody that denies the Holocaust is unserious and a moron. The problems with perpetual black victimhood practiced by many if not most blacks, is that they don’t want to admit they’re the worst perpetrators of the very speech they profess to be hate – in other words, the obvious and undeniable hypocrisy of their own speech and the transparency of white hatred most blacks carry.

    And every time either of these parties open their mouths, it only reinforces how pathetically hypocritical they really are.

    Let them speak.

  91. Maybe I’m watching too much news but I’ve got the sick feeling we’re in for a major ISIL inspired event on our shores this year. Just too many nutjobs out there. FBI just foiled a plot in Cincinnati to attack the Capitol.

    Am I being paranoid?

  92. Symbolism matters. Bush flew over the hurricane damage because he thought being on the ground created problems for rescue workers. His enemies used the picture to show that Bush was unfeeling.

    Obama visited eastern Iowa twice during our flood, and twice Iowa representatives asked him to see our flood. Twice he refused because there was nothing political in it for him. People in the Upper Missouri River valley noticed, but Obama didn’t care.

    Obama should have gone, even if the symbolism was meaningless without concrete action. The government leaders might have been able to coordinate something in private.

    I agree Holder would have besmirched the affair, but I wonder if Beckel would have held the same opinion if President Bush or Romney had stayed home.

  93. but I wonder if Beckel would have held the same opinion if President Bush or Romney had stayed home.

    Knowing Beckel’s history, I would say not. 😉 After all, Beckel is a Leftist – by definition, a HYPOCRITE. You can’t be a Leftist if you can’t double the standards.

  94. I wouldn’t call Beckel a lib Rush. That’s more Ed Schultz.

    I’ve only seen Beckel on Fox’s The Five and I think he’s a clown. Having him as the token lib on the Five is almost worse than having no lib at all.

  95. Well Tex I have a theory for you. All of the black protests of 2014 have hit the Oscars. Folks are so sick of blacks, not a single one was nominated for any of the four acting awards and Selma’s director got snubbed.

    This year the Academy said “fuck diversity”.

  96. Second, why in gods name would a supposed dead man, cooperating with a conspiracy, risk being spotted in a crowd?

    Bold, right? Just like Charlie Hebdo. Apparently it isn’t a risk at all if you sheeple can’t see what facial recognition software can.

  97. Oh. Yeah. They’re both fact and white too. Just like Beckle. I guess they all look and sound alike to black folk.

    Great comparison.

    Raji, Limbaugh and Shultz and Beckel are not opposite sides of any coins. Other than as stated, which would include the other liberal Limbaugh, Michael Moore. I guess.

    So. . .

  98. Poolman, there’s really something wrong with you. No joking. I’ve read the every graphic event is staged/conspiracy process that you can’t separate from is a form of OCD. That’s too bad since you can only treat OCD but not fix it.

  99. “This year the Academy said “fuck diversity”

    Or the movies and actors they picked happened not to have black people in them this time. Gasp!

  100. “Am I being paranoid?” -R

    Big time. All Queda is on the run, ISIS is the JV team, Fort Hood was boring work place violence and Benghazi was an ad hoc temper tantrum over a you tube movie. Obama won the war on terror and Islam is in great shape.

  101. I don’t go looking for conspiracy. I’d rather just build swimming pools. The real problem stems from recognizing evil wherever it manifests. I obviously see the world through a very different perspective than you people do.

  102. “There is something wrong with me” -Poolman

    You are a man boy who likes to play dunegeons and dragons with the news. If I ever saw you, I would punk you out in front of your kin and your church. You need to be mocked in front of anyone of low intelligence in your circle (I’m guessing that’s most of your circle) so that maybe your influence wanes.

    You are the exact reason we have R ratings on bad action movies. Unfortunately, it doesn’t apply to simpletons, just minors.

    You are a rumor bitch and a man who gets off on the make believe. You are a sea lamprey lodged in the hull if the US Rutherford Lawson.

    The only thing that gives me a bit of solitude is that your own father recognized the shit you have for brains.

  103. Could be Rabbit, of course but the dude whose name is pronounced o-yellow-o who played MLK Jr. was expected to get a nod.

    Hey I’m not complaining. More just making an observation I thought would amuse Tex.

    Hell I’M SICK OF BLACK PEOPLE.

    In fact I don’t know why I’m in such a funk but ALL minorities are pissing me off right now. I’m really tired of hearing anyone’s grievances right now whether it’s blacks, Muslims, Jews, women, etc etc. Grow the fuck up and get on with it. I’ve got my own problems.

  104. “Grow the fuck up and get on with it. I’ve got my own problems.”

    Yep. Getting played all the time is exhausting.

  105. You are a sea lamprey lodged in the hull if the US Rutherford Lawson.

    Sorry Pools, that was classic.

    I have to admit I had to look up “lamprey” to find out what kind of animal it was. Has a “round sucking mouth and rasping tongue”. LOL

  106. This is a lie.

    No, but I can recognize lies pretty quick.
    Just so you know, you guys are with Alex Jones on this one.
    😆

  107. I doubt it’s discrimination, “R”. You forget how hypocritical Hollywood is.

    I’d as soon be bungholed by Poolman, than watch Oompah Winfrey’s fat ass waddle across the screen as some victim. Every white I know has no plans to see Selma, unless it’s on the cheap.

    Had it been produced besides someone besides Oompah, it would have been more appealing to a larger audience. With Fat Ass co-producing, White Bread knows it’s going to spin all of us pinkies as racists with white privilege.

    Whites are sick of whining, black victims. And on that part, you’re right. Have no fear. I heard Al Sharpton was on the way out to “talk” to the association tonight on the talking heads – not kidding.

  108. I’d as soon be bungholed by Poolman

    😯 In your dreams, fat boy! That universe doesn’t exist.
    However, along that same perversion. You guys were all about Bobo showing solidarity in that fascist parade. This is why I can never be Charlie Heebdoo

  109. Sadly I’m so religiously illiterate that I don’t know whom Jesus is fucking and what is fucking Jesus. The French words don’t help.

    But it is proof that Hebdo was equal opportunity offender. I’ve only seen this cover and the one I posted so I don’t know if they ever slammed Judaism.

    I wonder if their only goal was to offend. It’s MAD magazine in Hades.

  110. Far be it from me to agree with La M prey but…

    It is a little disconcerting to me that a dozen completely vile human beings are murdered and the world mourns in solidarity. But 200,000 Syrians are butchered, thousands of them women and children, in the name of Allah or the Chinless dictator and world yawns.

    I don’t mean to sound cold as I don’t think anyone deserving of murder, but if I were forced to choose a dozen people to be sacrificed to Mo, I might have picked these 12 Charlie Hebdo scumbags.

    There are legitimate reasons the East looks at the West with disdain…

  111. There are legitimate reasons the East looks at the West with disdain…

    Be careful there Sparky. You’ll be screaming alahu Akbar any minute now and booking your flight to Yemen.

  112. “In fact I don’t know why I’m in such a funk but ALL minorities are pissing me off right now. I’m really tired of hearing anyone’s grievances right now whether it’s blacks, Muslims, Jews, women, etc etc. Grow the fuck up and get on with it. I’ve got my own problems.”-R

    Not to worry Rutherford pretty soon all the news will be about candidates for 2016 and then we will all be in a funk 🙂

    ps I agree with you !!!!!!!!

    “Sadly I’m so religiously illiterate that I don’t know whom Jesus is fucking and what is fucking Jesus. The French words don’t help.”-R

    You are really cracking me up this morning 😆

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  114. Pools – re: the power of the puss. When I was a teen, my best mate said, “You can beat and beat it, but you can’t whip it.” I always think of that when his memory crosses my mind.


    Rutherford – I ran across this Mark Davis piece in Townhall.com:

    http://townhall.com/columnists/markdavis/2015/01/16/is-america-in-a-religious-war-n1943882/page/full

    Please try to find time to read that short article. As people everywhere gyre and gimbal, trying to get a coherent grasp of what is taking place in the world of Radical Islam vs Planet Earth, this is a clear-eyed summary of the problem, the stakes, and the solution.

  115. God, Rutherford. The Father is being bungholed by The Son, who is being bungholed by the Holy Spirit – in a menàge of Fathers, since they are all the same, theoretically. (Actually, it says twenty-three – vingt-trois – which I don’t get.)

    Of course, it all makes no sense, since none of them have a need to eat (like Kim Jung-Un (Have you seen “The Interview?” – hilarious!)) and therefore have no need of a bunghole.

    Hmmm … Do God poo? Now, there’s a question right up there with how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

  116. re: denying Holocaust illegal. Bad, bad idea. You have to draw the line somewhere, and IMHO the best place to draw it is that words cannot be illegal (In general – yes, I know about the fire-theatre thing.), but actions are. Ditto thoughts – which is why these “hate crime” laws are a bad, bad idea – you are purporting that hating someone because he is an Indian – and killing him – is worse than hating him because he divorced you – and killing him. It is very easy to draw the line at actions, and maintain the idea of equality before the law – an Indian life is worth the same as a white or black one, and therefore the penalty for taking same is equal, no matter the “reason.”

    And the best thing for bad ideas is to let people hang them out on the line in front of the public. The problem will solve itself.


    re: no diversity in the Academy Awards. What a concept. A merit-based award system. That will never work.

  117. Be careful there Sparky. You’ll be screaming alahu Akbar any minute now and booking your flight to Yemen.

    Jerusalem. Remember? 😉

    Nah, I was serious about the East having some real reasons to hate us Westerners, most of it driven not by the crazy, rabid, White Conservative male “fundie” either – but by American media and Hollywood. The paradox is that it’s predominately crazy, rabid, White Conservative male “fundies” that are putting their butts on the line to allow the American media and Hollywood cowards to spew their crap.

    Getting back to my point, “R”? Are 12 venal cartoonist lives in Gay Paris’ worth more than 2,000 Black Nigerian Villagers – entire villages wiped out, kids, babies everything? Where’s the news? Where’s the outrage? Where’s the solidarity parade? That’s how pathetic Europe is – and America under Obama desperately trying to catch Europe of the pathetic scale.

    Our Western World has grown so decadent and amoral, not only do most Westerns have little understanding of the twisted religion that motivates this, but such little introspection we don’t even contemplate what we might do besides kill them to prevent it. We lie to ourselves.

    Take you demons from the Left on GITMO. That coward for President is releasing dozens of captured terrorists by his own hand, perhaps a 1/4 of them who return to the battlefield. Make sense to you, R? And the reason this Imbecile for President is releasing them is supposedly GITMO is a terrorist recruiting tool – that also based on a pack of lies.

    If I’m wrong, why did 9/11 precede GITMO?

  118. L Am Prey Le Pew,

    FYI as I just read this. We were having this discussion the other day and I saw this:

    An exodus of French Jews is already underway and accelerating rapidly. In 2012, there were just over 1,900 immigrants to Israel from France. The following year nearly 3,400 French Jews emigrated; in 2014 approximately 7,000 left. For the first time ever, France heads the list of countries of origin for immigrants to Israel, and the ministry of immigration absorption expects another 10,000 French Jews to arrive in 2015.

    That would mean more than 22,000 Jews fleeing France for Israel in the space of just four years, nearly 4.5 percent of the country’s Jewish population. The departure of 100,000 French Jews might once have been inconceivable. No longer. In a survey last spring of France’s Jewish community, the largest in Europe, three out of four respondents said they were considering emigrating.

  119. You are right, Tex, but I don’t care.

    I am home for ten days after seeing our grand daughter for the first time this year on Tuesday afternoon. We are less worried because she is almost like a different toddler than when I saw her in December. The condition which might match hers shows stagnation after 18 months and then a rapid decline. She has passed 19 months now. She is using more words.

    Her father takes her to story time in the library in mornings before he goes to work. Yesterday, a teacher said she is unusually helpful when it is time to clean up.

    Our grand daughter also gets disturbed when our bags are not where she is used to seeing them in the guest room. This morning, she also spotted a potted plant my wife left for the other grand mother’s birthday.

    I mistakenly told her eight instead of ten days and told her to count the days when we would be back. I have counted to her since she was three weeks old, so she understands the concept. She pounded her hand eight times and tried to say “eight.”

    A friend told our daughter what an MRI scan entails. She is now violently opposed and wants to hear a second opinion. The doctor strongly recommended an MRI but she doesn’t know what it would show.

  120. Parker, based on human history, if God poops, we are his excrement.

    Rutherford, it might interest you to know that according to the prophet Isaiah, “When we display our righteous deeds, they are nothing but filthy rags.” Filthy rags interpreted those we wipe with.

    You may be more of a biblical scholar than I’ve given you credit for. 🙂

  121. An outspoken man edits a blog as Rutherford does. Someone or more attacked the lefts’ emphasis on race and joked about Obama’s being a half breed. The outspoken man was just elected to the state election commission. He did remove the offensive comments, but many Democrats and some Republicans want him to quit.

    Conservative radio station KFAB conducted an informal poll. The last I heard over 2/3 of the listeners wanted the man to quit. The newly elected Republican governor said in a statement that the man should resign, The blogger feels he has done nothing wrong, He disagrees with the posters and removed their comments. He says he is staying on the job.

    What would you do Rutherford if something like that happened to you? I can see both sides, but I don’t know enough about the people to decide. My first impulse is he should stay on the job unless further information arises because he didn’t write the offensive posts, and he took them down after he read them.

    When does offensive language become too intolerable to premit? It is minor compared to the shootings in France but the principle is the same.

  122. The doctor strongly recommended an MRI but she doesn’t know what it would show.

    That’s right up “Parker’s” alley. He’s forgotten more about that than I would know, James. I’d ask him what he would recommend.

    But I have a question, James. I am confused. Why is there such concern about your granddaughter’s progress when it obvious from what you’ve written here this child has excellent cognitive skills? Is it just a small cranium?

    The reason I ask is that I have bragged way too much about how startled I am that me, the consummate one generation removed from white trash, somehow played a part in raising this really smart eldest kid of mine. Her mother’s genes could not have been that dominate. Something had to wash out in the laundry.

    While eldest daughter was home on Christmas, she and I were standing side by side looking in the bathroom mirror when I noted my head was twice as big as her head. We both laughed. So I asked her, “how can you be that smart with a dinosaur head? I would have thought you would have looked more like ET.” 😛

    Good times.

  123. Anybody else here read of John Kerry’s press conference featuring James Taylor singing “You’ve Got a Friend?” 😆 😆 😆

    As Iowahawk (David Burge) noted: Since 9/11 we’ve become much quicker at responding to terrorism with farce.

  124. Tex before our grand daughter was born, doctors said an abortion might be a humane way to deal with our daughter’s pregnancy. Then, they couldn’t find a nose, and they were 97% sure our grand daughter had Down’s Syndrome.The new parents met with support groups and did research on raising a mentally deficient baby.

    Our daughter also found a new blood test on Google. She took it and the results were a 99% chance our grand daughter did not have Downs Syndrome. We were happy for two weeks until the next bad news.The baby’s head was mal- positioned and wasn’t getting sufficient nourishment. Her head wasn’t growing. Our daughter developed pre- eclampsia, and doctors were considering a cost effective way of ending inducing labor. before the baby died and after she had developed enough to survive. Then, it was possible our daughter might die. Her activities were restricted, though she still went to work.

    The size of our grand daughter’s nose was still in doubt. Doctors were checking our daughter every four days to see if the time for delivery was right. Things stabilized, and our grand daughter decided to enter the world early. She was a breach birth, and blue because her embylical cord was wrapped around her neck.

    Our grand daughter did have a nose, but her head was something else. One side was flat as a board, and her head reminded me of Zip the PInhead. He worked for the PT Barnum circus with make up to alter his appearance.

    Doctors predicted seizures and mental retardation. Her parents debated on a three letter name so she would better remember it. A brain scan didn’t show anything abnormal, but the doctors couldn’t figure our grand daughter out They wanted an MRI scan and other procedures.

    There we were with a little pin head with a flat right side of her face. One thing she had going for her was her eyes. They were piecing as if she was trying to understand who we were. Our daughter noted that they looked different from the eyes of Downs Syndrome babies she had seen at a support group.

    We decided to put everything we had into stimulating her brain to at least add a little mental capability to her. We played music for her at the beginning and talked to her. Our daughter read news reports to her, and I counted steps whenever we went up or down the stairs. At three weeks, she stuck her tongue out at me as a reflex, but I stuck my tongue back at her. She reciprocated. It became a game with us all sticking out our tongues when she did.. It was our first actual connection.

    Her head slowly began to look normal and it moved into the lower 10% of normal head size. Then, it quit growing and is now back in microencephaly range. Her monthly tests showed she was developing normally in some respects and was slow in others. Her parents were told she needed an MRI scan because her future was uncertain. No one seems to have seen a baby like her. No one could say how her mind would be.

    Our grand daughter progressed to normal and above normal in some development. She babbled, but she wouldn’t use many understandable words. Doctors were concerned. She used her own sign language. Her limited speaking bode ill for her future development.

    I googled and called others in December. I even spoke to the Mayo Clinic. Most told me they had no clue, and I didn’t expect they would. They recommended a genetic test. Someone gave me pages of conditions caused by genetic conditions, but only one matched. In that a child would progress normally or even faster until around 18 months or younger. The baby would stabilize for awhile and then head into steep decline.

    I was gone for almost three weeks, and when I saw our grand daughter,this week, I was stunned by the change. She is now using words. I’m not bragging when I say we think she is brighter than average, but we don’t know if her mental development is consistent . Even her parents, who got all of the bad news first hand are beginning to acknowledge that their daughter is not normal in a good way.

    For example, I told her we would return in eight days ( I got it wrong. It is actually 10 days.) I told her to count the days on her fingers. She pounded her hand against a pillow eight times and said what sounded like eight. It was probably a random coincidence, but she has done other odd things like that.

    At the last meeting, the doctor again told the parents they need an MRI scan. She insisted this time. The doctor can’t predict what will happen, only that something bad may happen.

    Our son, who saw her once last summer, bonded with her as long as he was here. He called and joked “how is the little pin head?” I told him he’d better not say that to the parents, and that her head is more normal now.

    That is why we can’t entirely enjoy developments even if they are positive.

    Parker (?) has been a big help to us with comments about this and other situations. His information seems to have been better than some doctors who are in actual contact with patients.

    I like your story. You and your daughter must get along well. She obviously inherited her intelligence from you and your wife.

  125. I think the Crazy World of Arther Brown with “Fire” should have followed James Taylor . Then, the Barney Theme would have scared the Jihadists back to the Middle East.James Taylor could have finished with “Fire and Rain” with “flying machines in pieces on the ground.”

  126. James I’ve lost track of how old your granddaughter is. Much of what you say about her sounds appropriate for the age I assume she is.

    FWIW I have a misshapen head and it hasn’t hurt me much. My Mom used to tell me the nurses in the hospital didn’t move my head around enough so it got flat in the area where I lay most often. I no longer buy that explanation. In any case I don’t worry about it much.

    Perhaps it explains why I’m a liberal? :-p

  127. FWIW I have a misshapen head and it hasn’t hurt me much.

    I blame your mother Angela Davis. She tried for years to knock some sense into you, but it didn’t work. But’s not your misshapen head that I worry about. It’s those missing lobes of your brain that result in normal critical thinking.

    My Mom used to tell me the nurses in the hospital didn’t move my head around enough so it got flat in the area where I lay most often.

    Even the nurses recognized demon seed. 😈








    Just teasing….

  128. FYI as I just read this. We were having this discussion the other day and I saw this:

    Okay. The discussion started because you said there were no Jews left in Paris and I linked over 60 synagogues in Paris. I don’t deny Jews are leaving these areas. Israel would prefer Jews emigrate the EU and settle in Israel so they can justify stealing more land from the Palestinians. That is one of several purposes for the recent false flag. Another obvious reason is because Bibi threatened France for supporting Palestinian statehood.

    If you were a better study of history, you would understand the holocaust was allowed to happen so that the state of Israel could be established. Plenty of nations were willing to take Jews fleeing the persecution in Europe during WWII, but the Zionists insisted they not be allowed to go anywhere. I’ll remind you that holocaust means burnt offering. Why do you think that is?You want to talk about Judaism and their myriad offerings and blood sacrifices?

  129. Israel would prefer Jews emigrate the EU and settle in Israel so they can justify stealing more land from the Palestinians.

    LOL. There’s always an ulterior motive by those deceitful Israeli Jooos.

    If you were a better study of history, you would understand the holocaust was allowed to happen so that the state of Israel could be established.

    Allowed to happen by who? God? Who were these powerful Zionists? You’re too much, Poolman. Sometimes, your deviance and twisted peanut-sized brain amuses me.

  130. This just occurred to me and I admit the idle mind is the Devils workshop.

    Think about this logic:

    Let’s take the most despised and persecuted minority in history and PUT THEM ALL IN ONE PLACE WHERE THEY ARE SITTING DUCKS.

    Using that logic, wouldn’t Jews be better off dispersed around the world?

  131. Thanks for the article muffy. My wife worries that we might have missed something, that we should be doing more. We have been doing all the article suggests, and more. Our grand daughter knows how to operate cell phones and can do a few things with computers. She wrecked my digital camera by pushing in the lens. I thought it was worth the stimulation she was getting and bought a new camera. I fixed the broken one so she plays with it again. She takes pictures with it and also with a deactivated cell phone. After I explained pushing in the lens damages a camera, she has quit doing it.

    Both sets of grand parents are professionals and verbal. We are all financially comfortable, and my wife and are I especially big talkers.

    Our grand daughter is 19 months old. She started walking unaided at 14 months of age. We are finally thinking that she may become an average school student after all.

    Rutherford, I’ll bet your misshapen head looks distinguished.

  132. Aren’t Jews already distributed around the world? I understand more are moving to Israel because they feel unsafe where they are. They are better off in their own refuge than in some other countries where gunmen or bombers can attack them. My genetic test shows I am about 1% European Jew. Elizabeth Warren is an American Indian with minimal genetic influence. Should I worry?

  133. “Using that logic, wouldn’t Jews be better off dispersed around the world?” R

    Joke’s on us. R has been Sensico this whole time. Well played.

  134. Yeah, I’m Sensico and Muffy is Tex.

    Ok wacky idea BUT don’t dismiss it. Not every country is antisemitic. Jews could live in peace in many places in the world. Instead they flock to one small geographic region where they have to erect a shield to keep from getting flattened by the enemy NEXT DOOR.

    When I hear about Jews leaving France for Israel I’m thinking “really?” You’ll be safer there?

  135. You need to get a world history book in your hands.

    At almost every turn of history the minority Jews are slaughtered.

    Inquisition.
    Reformation
    Crusades (both in Europe and Middle East.
    Czarist Russia.
    Black Plague
    French Revolution.
    Communism (despite practically starting movement)
    The World Wars.
    The European War on Terror.

  136. James, no matter the physical difficulties your grandaughter faces, it’s hard to imagine a child that’s got a grandpa that loves on a child as much as she’s got. That’s cool.

  137. Rabbit is right, “R”. Jews are the most persecuted people for lack of a better word in the history of civilization, contrary to many African-American claims.

    Now I’m sure Poolman can locate some Swastika Skin Head site to negate that statement, the same sites who said the Holocaust was allowed happen to recreate Israel, but that persecution consistent for well over 2,600 years and since the Diaspora…

  138. James, if your granddaughter was walking at 14 months, I have to think her brain is perfectly normal – motor skills are one of the base measurements. Good for you. And Tigre is right – I’m envious of grandparents like you. I never had a doting grandparent, as the only one that would have been like you was the first one I lost – my mother’s mother almost 45 years ago. I can remember her face, but I can’t remember her voice. That has bothered me as of late.

  139. At almost every turn of history the minority Jews are slaughtered.

    Crusades (both in Europe and Middle East.

    Whoooa careful there. Tex is a big fan of the Crusades. 😉

  140. “Instead they flock to one small geographic region where they have to erect a shield to keep from getting flattened by the enemy NEXT DOOR.”

    Long Island?

  141. Tex I’m not a doctor (though I play one on TV) but everything James ever says about his granddaughter makes her sound perfectly normal.

    I feel bad for my kid. Her maternal grandmother died before my kid was born. Her paternal grandmother and maternal grandfather died while she was a baby. So she only ever got doted on by my Dad who died a year ago this month.

    Grandparents are a true blessing. Having a kid when you’re in your late 30’s early 40’s lowers the odds of a long relationship with the grandparents.

  142. “experts” are now sure the rise in Oklahoma earthquake occurrence can be directly attributable to hydraulic fracking.

    You’re as much a denier as any atheist or leftist, Tex. I have been amused to see your belief system fractured daily by current events. You would deny Newton’s ‘for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

    And while it was once believed that injection wells only had the potential to produce small quakes, that was shattered by the 2011 Colorado quake and a subsequent 5.7 magnitude quake in Oklahoma, which a study by Cornell University geophysicist Katie Keranen and colleagues linked to decades of injection of waste water from conventional oil drilling.

    http://news.discovery.com/earth/could-fracking-cause-a-major-earthquake-150116.htm

    Dutchsine has been on this for years and predicted the Connecticut quake.

  143. Grandparents are a true blessing.

    Why thank you! I resemble that remark. 😀 I was fortunate to have spent much time with both sets of grandparents and even remember my great grandfather who passed when I was around 12.

  144. I’ve been amused to see your scientific predictions fractured by the waste water cracks in your Neanderthal like skull and the occurrences of earthquakes in diverse places you can’t explain. You know what you and your science remind me of, Poolman? The AGW science is settled Al Gore, while he is buying beach front property in our rising seas. If waste water injections were the major cause, The Permian Basin would look like the Grand Canyon by now.

    Discovery, hey? Isn’t that right back to the planetarium cashier Neils deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye, the Science guy? How do these Discovery folk explain the recent series of quakes in Idaho, Virginia, Maryland, and Connecticut then, Junior? Is that waste water injection too? LOL

    I guarantee you without googling it, you don’t even know where they drill, much less how they extract hydrocarbons. Oklahoma has been injecting waste water for damn near 75 years and those “experts” can’t even get the magnitude of the 2011 Prague quake right.

  145. Poolman, occasionally but not frequently, I like to verify these “experts” you google out of morbid curiosity. Do you ever verify your sources? Or do you just pick the first thing you find?

    This Dutchsinse goon you referenced appears to be a major league fraud, even being sued for scamming. :facepalm:

  146. The discovery was the most current. You can find plenty from the official USGS. As I said (and linked) Dutchsinse predicted the earthquake. He’s been doing so for years. You’re too afraid to watch, so I’ll give you the short version:

    It’s the craton you cretin. 😆

  147. I did watch, Junior – about 10 minutes of that goon. You’ve even got the terminology wrong. Do you have any idea what craton means, Jr.? Hell no.

    Okay, so why don’t you and Dutchsinse, which you didn’t spell right the first time, tell me where the next magnitude 5.0 is going to happen? I’ll even give you a 100 mile latitude and we’ll place a bet. How’s that? And you can’t choose the Pacific Ring of Fire. I want to know where along the “craton” LOL it’s going to happen.

    Here’s your moment to shine.

  148. Thanks for the encouraging comments. I think some of the doctors watching our grand daughter come from the Al Gore school of medicine. I knew three of my grand parents, and our children knew all of theirs. They all had children late in lfie but survived into their nineties, so my wife, children and I knew them into our late teens and twenties.

    I’m not a geologist, but the map looks all right. The key phrase is “relatively stable.” The New Madrid fault shifted and caused a series of earth quakes in 1811-12. One made church bells ring in North Carolina. The next one will be devastating because most buildings in the region are not designed to withstand earth quakes. The soil under Memphis can become the equivalent of a liquid of shaken enough.

    Yellowstone Park is on a giant caulddra which is slowly shifting.eastward. Some day, it will explode again and wipe out millions of people who are unable to get away in time. Our loess hills have about two inches of volcanic ash from an earlier eruption. The family of one of my school friends used the ash to polish silverware.

    Ashfall Park northwest of Norfolk, Ne has a display of animals killed by the eruption. They were buried under over 20 inches of ash. In the Nebraska panhandle, the ashe is over 40 inches deep in spots. The eruption occurred in present day Idaho.

    Nebraska still has minor earth quakes from old faults. To the operative phrase is “relatively stable.” The big ones will happen again. That is certain. When is another matter. No one knows when It could be either later this morning or five thousand years from now.

  149. As you know, I am a volunteer weather observer. The Weather Service web site posted a headline noting 2014 was the warmest year on record. I didn’t bother to read the propaganda piece. I mentioned it to a meteorologist at a television station I report to, and she laughed. She knows it is propaganda too.

  150. R – “FWIW I have a misshapen head and it hasn’t hurt me much. My Mom used to tell me the nurses in the hospital didn’t move my head around enough so it got flat in the area where I lay most often. I no longer buy that explanation. In any case I don’t worry about it much.”

    That flat spot is so your wife has a place to set her beer when you go down on her.

    No charge for the good info. LOL

  151. James – I offer “advice” in the form of a question – two, actually:

    What are you going to do if the MRI is abnormal?

    What will you do if it is normal?

    If the answer is the same, then why waste the time, money, anguish?

  152. Parker, if the MRI is normal, (assuming there is one which I don’t there will be right now) we will keep doing what we are doing. If the MRI is abnormal, and it shows an adverse outcome, we will finally know what the problem if any is. We will then have a name. We will also research and bug people until they are sick of us to find the best known treatment. The girl’s doctor is certainly clueless. if such a condition is an orphan because of its rarity, we will agitate for change. I have a loud mouth, and I get around.

    Sally Ride was schedueled to speak at a Take Our Daughters to work event in Omaha. I thought it would be nice and called for a ticket. The woman said since it was a Take Your Daughter to Work program, our son was not welcome. I argued that I couldn’t leave him at home. She said he could wait in the car.

    I started a personal ten year campaign to change the day to include boys. It should be Take Our Children to Work day. I changed some minds, including an officer of NOW. She told me so.I was quoted on several television shows. I don’t claim to have changed anything, but I did contribute, and I was a pain.

    A more tangible . result of our agitation is a bridge and highway the state of Iowa fought to close. We created a miracle. You can fight city hall and win.

  153. I’m not a geologist, but the map looks all right.

    It’s the finest our tax money can buy, James. I am not an expert, but I find it fascinating. I have watched this for a couple years now and it is obvious that the edge of these ‘plates’ is where the majority of the activity occurs. And as Dutchsinse points out, the pressure has to equalize. So if we get activity on one side of the plate, it means there will be activity on the opposite side. It may take days or months. We have been waiting for the ‘release along the eastern edge of the craton and that runs through Connecticut.

    Again, I must emphasize that we not only need to watch these cluster points, but watch the the SILENT area of the Eastern edge of the plate.

    The pressure building along the East must be getting to a point of release soon (due to the other excessive movement further South and West along the plate).

    http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/4112014-coloradofracking-earthquake-pressure-showing-on-the-edge-of-the-craton/

    People like Tex have too much invested in their flat earth philosophy to see things clearly.

  154. Parker, there’s a lot of good shots in Texas and Oklahoma. You remember the pharmacist who wasted a couple of thugs in OKC a few years back? The pharmacist was wearing coke bottle glasses. Keeps the natives in check. LOL

    I’ve seen them in action at these white collar dove hunts. Hell, my own daughter’s gift to her new husband will be a high end deer rifle, which was purchased through my nephew who sells high powered weaponry and ammunition. Happy Hunting!

    This American Sniper Chris Kyle? I’m totally convinced he was such a deadly shot because he grew up in a culture of hunting out in West Texas. Like I told these good old boy guys on my last hunt with them near Abilene. I know where this white bread is heading for protection when war breaks out.

    Did you recently read about the cop in Austin who was forced to kill the maniac who was shooting into government buildings? Cop took him down. Through the heart. First shot. While holding his horses with the other hand. From 312 feet. 😆

    Holding the reins of two horses with one hand, Austin Police Sgt. Adam Johnson raised his service pistol and fired a bullseye into the target some 312 feet away.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/06/austin-cop-sure-shot-stopped-crazed-gunman/

    Now, that’s some damn fine shooting. Bet these guys wouldn’t need 40 shots to bring Mumua to a halt like they do in Philadelphia.

  155. People like Tex have too much invested in their flat earth philosophy to see things clearly.

    Damn, Poolman. I didn’t realize you were a geophysicist too. You’re insights are amazing. Truly breathtaking stuff.

    I suppose your doctoral research was in the predictive phase of plate tectonics, hey? So where’s the next magnitude five going to hit? And when do we place a bet? 😀

  156. How long before major areas of the world conclude it is easier to simply remove Muslims than to live with them?

    I think that if they don’t decide that they can live with the rest of the world without deciding that the rest of the world must live by their rules, then sooner or later, the rest of the world is going to get sick of their shit. That might mean extreme segregation, that might mean something more…permanent.

    The thought that keeps me awake at night, though, is that one day,they will commit a bioweapons attack or set off a small nuke in a western city. Right now, there are too many sheep and not enough sheepdogs in government, which will set the stage for internecine conflicts when the sheep want to continue down the path of capitulation and James Taylor “diplomacy”, and the sheepdogs realize that its time to take care of business.

  157. I think I have the most comments year after year because I have to correct about 90% of my own posts.

    lol. I know the feeling. Anymore, I let most of mine go so long as my point is made.

    I am no expert in plate tectonics, I freely admit. Just an avid observer. When I was studying this in school, I was more interested in observing the females in the room. I did not learn much. No matter. Theories have changed since then as technology allows us to see beyond our own human vision.

    But the point is, you have many ‘theories’ that need revision as technology rarely stagnant. I point them out and you shoot them down. But like the ‘terrorists’ with the AK in the Charlie Heebdoo cop shooting video, you’re loud but merely shooting blanks. Here’s another one of your philosophical quagmires…

    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/01/16/children-allowed-try-cannabis-chemo/

    Who was it again that gave us these things for our use and called them good?

  158. Poolman, I don’t doubt there are fault lines in the continental U.S. that remain to be discovered. That is the nature of the earth’s crust. I don’t even deny that waste water injection may be increasing the likelihood of more earthquakes along those fault lines – water is liquid acting as a lubricant in fault lines.

    What I do deny is man’s power to do much about it and that the water injection wells themselves are the CAUSE of the earthquakes – it may be exacerbating them. The economic fact is that my poor state, and it is poor, is dependent upon the billions of dollars in revenues and good paying jobs the oil industry provides. Shut it down and this states dies an ignominious death – Texas has practically bled us dry and agriculture and casinos can only carry a state so far.

    America needs hydraulic fracking because our economy more dependent upon oil than any other resource besides water. What the oil industry has accomplished in the last ten years is nothing short of miraculous. Alternative energy is a government funded boondoggle, years from being a powerhouse if it ever gets there. And I’m far more worried our dependence upon OPEC oil than I am one 5.6 magnitude earthquake in the middle of mostly pasture.

    I’m just looking at the risk vs. reward – and the rewards far outweigh the risks in my opinion for both state and country at present.

  159. James – one more, and I’m off to bed.

    I have talked to several of my clients about your problem over the months. Consensus as follows:

    MRIs are just pictures. If your granddaughter has a structural problem in the brain – which is to say a problem that can be seen – it cannot be fixed, because central nervous tissue does not heal (yet!). If she had a tumour, the MRI would be justified because it could be removed, but that would have been manifest long before now. If she has a genetic problem, the MRI won’t see it, because it is a picture of the general structure, with no information about the kinds of signals it carries.

    I understand curiosity; my take would be that if it is YOURS or your FAMILY’S, then fine, because it contributes to the patient’s and family’s overall comfort.

    If it is the consultant’s (doctor’s) curiosity, that is not sufficient reason, unless his treatment actually depends upon the outcome.


    re: Muslim stuff again. I’m watching Al Jazeera – they are actually quite good, and reasonably fair. All I see on the telly are muslims around the world in a shitting, destroying, screaming fit about the latest Charlie Hebdo cartoon. Think about it: we see christians and jews treated this way everywhere, and nobody fears for their life. I think it is like what Chris Kyle said in “American Sniper” – they are savages. They key is for the West to respond in a very firm and very defensible way and ignore the screaming Left. Not nuclear bomb Medina, but STOP all immigration NOW. I hate to keep beating the drum, but time is running out, if it hasn’t already.

    There is going to be hell. How MUCH hell depends entirely on how soon the West responds.


    Tex – I’ve done a little pistol shooting. That is ONE HELLUVA shot. People have NO idea how hard it is to make a shot like that.

  160. People like Tex have too much invested in their flat earth philosophy to see things clearly

    Actually Poolman I’m rethinking this. I used to think folks like Tex and Tigre who scoff at science were just being Neanderthals. But I think it’s the opposite.

    They truly believe they are smarter than those with proven accomplishments in the area of climate and other endeavors. It’s not ignorance. It’s a manifestation of “everybody’s an expert”, a by product of Internet consumption.

    It used to be everybody’s got an opinion. Now it’s everyone has a PhD from Google University.

  161. Gad. Your insights. I think I have the most comments year after year because I have to correct about 90% of my own posts.

    Actually you don’t have to. Most folks here speak (and occasionally write) in fluent typo.

    You’re just OCD, that’s all.

  162. The thought that keeps me awake at night, though, is that one day,they will commit a bioweapons attack or set off a small nuke in a western city.

    I have one word for you.

    Pakistan.

    Please someone tell me why we let those loonies in Pakistan get the bomb but we crap our pants over Iran?

  163. So, a 15 year old is on TV this morning advocating lowering the voting age to 16. She says “like” in every fucking sentence.

    I think LIKE it would be LIKE a very fucking LIKE bad idea to lower LIKE the voting age.

    LIKE

  164. By the way, R. You being so well read and “fair minded” and all. You do realize how many of these experts you choose to believe have been busted for presenting fraudulent data, don’t you? Ever heard of HockeyGate? Or HimalayaGate? Or RainForestGate? You don’t need to answer. I already know the answer.

    But I present a few of these experts, expert predictions which have not only fallen flat, but got it exactly the opposite.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/18888-embarrassing-predictions-haunt-the-global-warming-industry

  165. R, I’m glad you’ve been thinking on something. You must be totally exhausted.

    I know a ton about the so-called global warming since I’ve worked on some of the litigation. You by contrast simply accept what you are told about what others are being told on MSNBC. You don’t even know the scientists in whom you place your faith. Remember, I asked you to name four without having to Google? Of course you don’t. But you can’t.

    Don’t burn those few brain cells you got cluttering them with information. Better to have firm convictions based on what your liberal politicians and a propaganda outlet tell you to have firm convictions in. 🙄

    If ignorance is bliss, you’re in Nirvana.

  166. Thanks, Parker. I have been thinking the same thing. I’m going to quote you as a nameless source of our daughter and son-in law waver.

    We know she already has a few quirks like her grand parents. She has Morton’s Syndrome as I do-longer middle toes. She can also roll her tongue as I can. She has her grand mother’s birth mark on her scalp.

  167. Tex and El Tigre are right. If you still don’t understand reality, google the Weathergate e mails. The warmist scientists discussed the weather’s not following computer predictions and their need to “hide the decline.”

    Our local television meteorologists think human caused global warming is a joke. SUVs and large homes did not cause such dry weather that the buffalo and Native Americans were forced from the plains of Colorado five thousand years ago. They also didn’t make such a drought that the Nebraska Sand Hills blew free a thousand years ago or that much of Iowa reverted to short grass prairie.
    I think our green house gases can enhance change, but that is a far cry from being such a strong cause that we can use their production to alter our climate. All the warmists solutions would do is enrich them, take more of our freedom, and cause millions of people to die or be doomed to substance living.

    Thanks Rutherford. Take Our Children To Work is more fair.

  168. Don’t burn those few brain cells you got cluttering them with information. Better to have firm convictions based on what your liberal politicians and a propaganda outlet tell you to have firm convictions in.

    Ahhh you’re not on top of your game today. You forgot to mention my amateur CT weather observations.

  169. Tigre has a blog nose. I can mention him in a comment and be sure he’ll sniff it out and respond even if he’s been gone 24 hours or more.

    I’m gonna offer my services to his loved ones. If they ever fear he’s missing, I’ll insult him in a blog comment and he’ll surface. It’s like that Bat-alert Commissioner Gordon used to shine in the sky. 😆

  170. I just averted a minor disaster. I unplugged my car but forgot to close the lid to the charge port. Backing out of my garage had I been just a smidgen to the right I would’ve snapped the damn lid off my car. Would have ruined my weekend. It was my kid who noticed it when I went to pick her up from a friends house.

    Sometimes I think I’m too damn old to be trusted to leave the house. Did an all nighter last night on a seemingly simple network upgrade. An all nighter at 53 don’t fly like it did when I was in college.

  171. I got a technical question for you phone users, which I seldom use. Anybody here use a Droid? And if so, is there an easier way to make it to the bottom of the comments than having to drag down through all the comments? I pushed all over that phone and didn’t find any options. And I didn’t see “recent comments” anywhere near the top of the thread either.

  172. Tex if you are using your phone’s browser you should be looking at the mobile version of the site. You’ll see a gear symbol at top of page. Touch that and the most recent comnenters will appear. Touch the one at the top of the list and you’ll jump down to the bottom of the thread.

  173. Rutherford, I pull all nighters occasionally if a big storm is here and I need to report the weather. Sometimes my information is passed along in short term forecasts. I also get pretty droopy for a few days later. My father said his best year was 19. He could party all night and work ten hours on the farm the next day.

    You can still watch Batman if you want on Me TV. I watched it yesterday evening.

    My class mates’ mother was 97 and she still drove. She gave us a huge number of tomatoes late last summer., She got sick a few weeks ago, and doctors discovered an embulysim. She elected not to have surgery, went home and kept living.. Then, she got sick again and doctors discovered an aggressive form of cancer had invaded her body. She was released from the hospital late last week while we were still in Omaha.

    We saw her yesterday and visited with her children. By this time, she didn’t know we were there. My wife and I left after about a half hour, and her oldest son and his wife departed for their home in Des Moines.She died a half hour after they left. They must feel awful this morning.

    Our daughter has an Android phone. Our grand daughter loves the sound of “DROID”.

  174. “And I’m far more worried our dependence upon OPEC oil than I am one 5.6 magnitude earthquake in the middle of mostly pasture.”

    If we have enough 5.6 earthquakes in pastures then there will be no need to worry about dependence on OPEC 😉

  175. R – re: Pakistan vs. Iran vis à vis nukes. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and the Pakis surprised everybody in the early days. Better one bad mistake than two.

    re: global warming/cooling/climate change, (depending on which way the wind blows). Why does nobody ever wonder about how the earth’s climate has changed – from much warmer to much colder – dozens of times before humans walked the earth? Or many times thereafter, but when their “carbon footprint” consisted of a few campfires?

    James – re: tongue rolling – can she wiggle her ears, too? Thought to be genetic in males. If you can do one, likely you can do the other. I can do both – I used to wiggle my ears to screw with my barber when I was a little kid. Got some pretty bad haircuts, but my dad never knew it was my fault. Good memories.

    re: voting age. In an effort to be egalitarian, US has extended this right to everyone eighteen or over. It makes absolutely no sense; this is too important. There should be some kind of requirement to demonstrate responsibility – the old way was “landowner.” Maybe, (like) not a bad idea – but would, (like) spell the end of the Democrat party.

    re: Tex and Tigre “scoffing” at science. Questioning established dogma IS science, Rutherford; accepting what is admitted by scientists as their opinion is NOT. For me, there are ‘way too many open questions to accept the global warming/cooling/climate change dogma as fact, and the consequences of being wrong mean destroying the world economy. Remember all those hungry people, Rutherford? We fuck with the economy that feeds many of them and they will starve to death. This isn’t a trivial question, and “opinion” doesn’t cut it.

  176. SOTU speech:

    “The centerpiece of the plan, described by administration officials on the condition of anonymity ahead of the president’s speech, would eliminate what Mr. Obama’s advisers call the “trust-fund loophole,” a provision governing inherited assets that shields hundreds of billions of dollars from taxation each year. The plan would also increase the top capital-gains tax rate, to 28 percent from 23.8 percent, for couples with incomes above $500,000 annually. ” NYT

    Here we go again. SOTU speech is just another PR gig. Taxing “inherited assets” will only hurt the middle class as most of those assets are in the form of LAND. The reason for the provision in the first place was to protect families who inherited land from going into bankruptcy to pay the taxes. Yes the wealthy do have trust funds but they are so well protected from taxes.

    Sounds good on paper though. Remember the “CAR” fiasco?

  177. Raji, the Great Uniter sounds like he’s going back to class warfare routine. That type of increased transfer tax wouldn’t make it through Congress. I bet we’ll see Obama accuse the GOP of “protecting the wealthy” when it is rejected.

  178. If we have enough 5.6 earthquakes in pastures then there will be no need to worry about dependence on OPEC 😉

    We’ve had one 5.6 earthquake. One. In measurable history. About 60% of the energy as the massive “fracking” going on DC during the Virginia quake of 2011, I guess – the one that damaged the Washington Monument. Kind of along the same lies as, ‘if a big enough asteroid hits the earth, we won’t have to worry about OPEC dependence either.’

    Why does nobody ever wonder about how the earth’s climate has changed – from much warmer to much colder – dozens of times before humans walked the earth? Or many times thereafter, but when their “carbon footprint” consisted of a few campfires?

    Parker, that’s an excellent question I’ve asked dozens of times from both layman AGW enthusiasts and Rutherford’s “experts.” And you know not one time has anybody ever made the attempt to simply answer it? Seems pretty simple to me. Here’s what I generally get in some flavor. See if you feel it answers our question.

    You’re too stupid and/or too uneducated to understand the difference between weather and climate. :facepalm:

    I guess I must be. I have absolutely no idea how that answer even makes the attempt to address our very simple question.

  179. “You’re too stupid and/or too uneducated to understand the difference between weather and climate. ”

    My response would be, “A – you are incorrect. Weather over thousands of years is, by definition, climate, and that is of course what I am talking about. Maybe YOU don’t know the difference, since I was very clear on that. B – that is the weakest response I have ever heard. Would you like to try again, and this time address the question, instead of weakly trying to change the subject?”

    re: fracking/earthquakes – 5.6 is not a very big earthquake. The scale is logarithmic (base 10, not natural log), so every 1.0 is 10X the (shake) amplitude of the prior whole number. This corresponds to about 30X the energy released for each whole number up the scale. Though fracking has not been conclusively shown to cause little earthquakes, I think certainly most folks would be willing to withstand a little shaking now and then for the cheap energy produced by it.

  180. Yes, Parker, I can wiggle my ears too–both or one at a time. My father used to wiggle his ears at me and make his scalp shift. Our grand daughter can roll her tongue as I wrote, but my wiggling my ears doesn’t seem to impress her. Maybe when she is older. My brother cannot wiggle his ears or curl his tongue.

    When I was in physical therapy in the Air Force, I taught myself to write left handed which was easy since I am semi- ambidextrous. It was harder to teach myself to write with my feet. My longer middle toes made it easier to hold a pen. It is a measure of how bored I was with my right hand stuck in a whirlpool. Our grand daughter favors her right hand but uses her left also when she scribbles. Maybe I can teach her how to write with her feet someday.

  181. Good point Tigre. The following will probably also be rejected.

    “As far as financial firms, the country’s largest institutions would see new fees attached to loans.”

    And who is going to end up paying those fees??????

    I really do abhor stupidity

  182. , would eliminate what Mr. Obama’s advisers call the “trust-fund loophole,” a provision governing inherited assets that shields hundreds of billions of dollars from taxation each year.

    Because nothing screams “FAIRNESS” like a parasite attaching itself to money that has already been taxed, probably more than once, in order to redistribute even more of it.

  183. My understanding of earth quakes is that they relieve pressure which builds up when two plates which have been unable to move suddenly snap and release pent up energy only to rebuilt the tension which is once again released so they can move again. I have read that fault lines overdue for scheduled earth quakes may have bigger ones eventually because they have time to build up more tension from plates rubbing against each other.

    Therefore, small earth quakes might prevent or diminish a future big quake. Am I wrong?

    Rutherford and I agreed a long time ago that some of our voters shouldn’t be within miles of a poling place.

    That trust fund exemption affects us since as Ragi wrote most trust funds are in LAND. We worked and sacrificed to pay for our land which will protect our children if Social Security goes broke etc.Thank heavens Republicans control Congress. They would have had the White House too were it not for ignorant voters who should not have bothered.

  184. Ragi, you expect a lot don’t you? Maybe I should try to try knots. The best I could do right now is use my tongue as a straw,

  185. Adding to Raji’s astute analysis about the Useful Idiot for President: Obama’s SOTU economic proposals are like about everything else Obama plans – like our new reset relationship with the former Russia, now the USSR. Profoundly ignorant and epically failed.

    Consider that our national demographics coupled with indisputable glaringly insufficient retirement savings is an catastrophic outcome coming for at least a significant percentage of our elderly population.

    The average 401(k) balance for 65 year olds is estimated at $25,000 by independent experts – $100,000 if you believe the retirement planning industry. Now far do you think Social Security is going to carry the elderly with those limited savings?

    And who is going to get to make up the difference I wonder? Government bureaucrats and President Obama?

    Here’s the way I see it gang. Any of you are free to correct me where I’m wrong and I won’t take offense.

    We are $18+ trillion in debt as a nation. When you consider the unfunded liabilities, that figure reaches over $100+ trillion. That figure larger than all the world’s aggregate economies.

    So, it follows there are three possibilities our government may choose when the day of reckoning comes: (1) We can default; (2) We can make up the debt by selling off assets of federal lands and mineral rights; (3) Our government can begin to confiscate personal property.

    Now I ask sincerely? Which of those three are most palatable to a man like Obama? 😐

    And where do you think those personal properties might lie?

    Could they be trusts, land, 401ks, and pension funds?

  186. I didn’t even watch the Kimmel video. The notion that stupidity is limited to one party is absurd.

    The great unwashed masses of this country are profoundly dumb regardless of political affiliation.

  187. As an old man, if Rutherford’s party of thieves snatch whatever I am able to leave for my boys, I will not die of natural causes.

  188. It may not come to that rabbit. I met two Ukrainian sisters who saved $200,000. smuggled it out of the country, and moved to the US. Iowa Concern has a free phone line which among other things gives free legal advice. Estate planners can find loopholes.

    If progressive thieves changed the rules to invalidate all available estate planning, we would follow the sisters’ example and head for the border.

  189. On a cheerier note, consider the syncronicity of catharthis, revenge and wealth. Roland Orazabal had been abused as a child, and Ian stanley had had his own problems. Orazabal was still being counseled with Arthur Janov’s theory of primal therapy treatment. Part of the treatment was confronting fears and anger with screams and shouts. The song describes how it felt to be an abused child. The band called themselves Tears for Fears from a line in Janov’s book “Prisoners of Pain.”

    The extras singing behind the band were survivors of abuse.

    John Lennon had similar counseling in 1970.

  190. Call Holder a POS all you want. THIS is an accomplishment. Cops could take anything they wanted from you as part of a technicality in the war on drugs. They could pull you over, take your money and NOT arrest you.

    Good to see this may finally come to an end.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/holder-ends-seized-asset-sharing-process-that-split-billions-with-local-state-police/2015/01/16/0e7ca058-99d4-11e4-bcfb-059ec7a93ddc_story.html?wpisrc=al_alert

  191. I just finished watching Selma (streamed on my computer). I thought it was a really good film and Oyelowo gives a powerful performance. He did what an actor is supposed to do–I thought he was believable as Martin Luther King Jr.

    There was a lot of interesting camera work that I noticed. Angles that really helped set scenes of conflict and tension. One scene in particular had LBJ and MLK in a discussion. The camera is down low, looking upward at the 2 men as they stand apart, facing each other. Between them both is a raised painting of George Washington–gazing down, as if a silent mediator–judging the words and deeds of each man.

    Definitely worth a view.

  192. Thanks Huck. I now want to rent the movie. We don’t have time to watch movies in theaters and probably won’t for awhile.

    Meanwhile, around 1971,, a Kansas basketball team died in a plane crash.Sadness and dispair were region wide. To commemorate their deaths, a disk jockey played “Fire and Rain” because it referred to “flying machines in pieces on the ground.”

    James Taylor later said Suzanne who “they put an end to” was a friend who killed herself while Taylor was recording his first set with Apple Records in London. Friends thought he would take it hard, so they didn’t tell him. He didn’t learn of her death until six months later.

    Flying Machine was the name of a band he sang with before he was famous. I don’t remember the rest of the story. It is my favorite James Taylor song.

  193. I can’t win with movies. Either they are a bunch of work and feel like a homework assignment or they are so insipid I won’t waste my time.

    Either way, I don’t have the attention span for movies anymore.

  194. I got a question. Perhaps I’m dating myself, but I see where Selma is offered for free streaming – that’s about the right price for me to watch anything Oompah Winfrey. I find Oompah’s sanctimony and hypocrisy insufferable. I’ve heard from pretty good sources while Oompah still in her prime and before the days of Obama infamy, Oompah is so full of herself everybody around her hates her guts – money buys Oompah friends and allegiance.

    But how in the heck can streaming that be legal? The movie just hit the theaters days ago. I could stream this right to the big screen TV if I wanted.

    Not that I am terribly interested as I feel there’s too much emphasis on King these days, I know the history well as I took a Civil Rights class as an elective for college (can you believe that R?) for the easy ‘A’, and I believe America treats King as if he were some deity. Foolish – I think it cheapens the man.

    I find King both a dynamic and terribly flawed individual, much as I find many leaders.

  195. “But how in the heck can streaming that be legal?”

    It’s not.

    And I purposely freed my mind of anything to do with the Oscars, Oprah, and even the MLK’s many flaws. I just watched the movie. I thought it was good. It wasn’t life changing. It wasn’t even mind changing (and actually did touch on his marital problems and infidelities). It was just a good film, and I thought it an appropriate view for the date.

  196. And I purposely freed my mind of anything to do with the Oscars, Oprah, and even the MLK’s many flaws. I just watched the movie.

    I wish I could compartmentalize like that. I really do. It’s a gift, of sorts I think – one that I don’t have.

    When I’m watching a movie, I can’t get away from the personalities – Oompah is one of the worst people in the world, IMO. I once liked her in the ‘The Color Purple.’ I wouldn’t piss on her if she were on fire now.

    Same thing with Julianne Moore in Hunger Games. My disgust and disdain of Moore detracts from an otherwise enjoyable movie. Morgan Freeman used to be one of my favorite actors. Now all I see is an Obama enabler, black racist and letch. Thank my lucky stars Denzel hasn’t pulled that crap yet.

    I can remember reading Letter from a Birmingham Jail and being quite smitten with MLK in a younger day. Then I discovered King plagiarized most of it. Doesn’t detract from the message, though.

    For all my foibles, I know deep in my heart I was pretty much color blind as a younger man. My mother would never allow something like ‘nigger’ to go unchallenged even being raised in a Mississippi ancestry. I remember her telling me once, “Tex, black men are made in the same image of God as you. Don’t you be stupid and godless like too many of these inbred idiots.”

    I was even willing to cut Je$$e Jackson slack for the historical black persecution at one time. But times have changed me. Shakedown changed me. The inferior culture changed me. The white pandering sickened me.

    Obama, the Black Caucus, $harpton and Wright, these feeble minded black bastards calling me racist for daring to disagree with a charlatan and fraud, the bullying, the lynching of Reginald Denny, the phony American media, and especially the double standards in behavior deemed allowable?

    I started contemplating when did it all change for me? When did I go from me pretty much color blind to holding large swaths of America in contempt? It was the O.J. trial conclusion and the Rodney King riots. I was 32-34 years old.

    And slowly but surely, the last 20 years of false accusation has changed my perspective appreciably.

  197. So I figured I would make a few more comments on the film based on observation.

    POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT

    I’ll first admit I don’t know a whole lot about the history as it relates directly to MLK. Nor am I familiar with any character allegations, short of his marriage infidelity. With those things said, the film touched on a few things that I find noteworthy upon reflection.

    I found the film interesting, from a social movement theory standpoint. King (at least in the film) seemed to have a keen understanding that the protests would have to be seen all across America in order to affect his desired change. Making the local papers of the South would be useless–the events had to be seen all over the country. He also understood that if it bleeds it leads. He WANTED direct confrontation with authority, and he hoped to provoke a violent reaction to his protests.

    In a scene where he is meeting with a couple youths from a local black rights group in Selma–who aren’t really happy he is taking the wind out of their sails–he tells them a previous protest he had done in a different city did not have the desired effect because the sheriff was essentially not rough enough with the protesters. He compared that sheriff to the sheriff in Montgomery, who was evidently known to be rough regarding blacks. Then he asked the young men if their local sheriff in the area was more like the former or the latter. When they replied he was likely to react with violence, MLK smiled and responded favorably–claiming he had come to the right place.

    I find this especially noteworthy, because, while he seemed to not only welcome, but encourage violent reaction to his non-violent protests, the film shows him as absent during the violence in Selma. In an early night march through the streets of Selma, wherein a young man was shot and others were beaten, MLK was not present (at least as I recall from the film–and if he was he was shown unscathed). In a second, and much more major confrontation, with the first crossing of the bridge out of Selma, MLK was also absent as protesters were beaten. In the film, it shows him calling one of his men the night before, saying he wanted to move them march back a day or 2 because he felt he was needed at home following what the film portrays as an FBI attempt to make waves in his marriage. His friend says too many people are ready and they can’t move things back, and that King can just join the group in the middle. Of course, that “middle” didn’t come, as the marchers were beaten and turned back.

    In a 2nd attempt to cross the bridge, the sheriff tells his men to step aside, leaving the road wide open for the protesters. King seems surprised (or perhaps disappointed), drops to a knee in prayer (as does the rest of the crowd) and then he turns back. When called out by others later, he says he was worried about the police blocking their rear, which would cut them off from a retreat and needed supplies. Again, he seemed to avoid the potential for direct physical confrontation–or maybe he turned back because he felt one might be absent, and would not make the papers.

    Now none of this is me saying I think MLK was a coward. But these points did occur to me when I was thinking about the film today. Perhaps they were included as a way to address past claims of cowardice. Like I said, I don’t know much about what gets said about the man.

    The film definitely shows MLK as an imperfect man. I can see where some might come away from the film viewing him as a coward and someone willing and even wanting to use the blood of others to advance his cause, while not risking his own, at least in the case of Selma. I’d be interested to hear comments from the filmmaker(s) on these points. And certainly interested to hear from anyone here who might know of any claims about King’s character in relation to the above.

  198. Same thing with Julianne Moore in Hunger Games. My disgust and disdain of Moore detracts from an otherwise enjoyable movie.

    You’ve said this before and I didn’t get you then and I don’t get you now. Do you have w link that shows she’s a loathesome liberal? What did she do SPECIFICALLY to piss you off?

    Morgan Freeman used to be one of my favorite actors. Now all I see is an Obama enabler, black racist and letch.

    Ok I get the letch part but you lost me in the rest. I’ve posted here several times a statement on race by Freeman in an interview with Mike Wallace that is one of the most sensible statements ever made on the subject. One with which I guarantee you would 100% agree. Yes I’ll post it one more time.

  199. Huck I’d like your opinion on the biggest controversy of the film. Did LBJ get a raw deal in the film? LBJ defenders have gone batshit crazy about the film’s accuracy.

  200. Speaking of LBJ (and RFK and JFK and FDR) I have finally found my reason to turn my back on Jeb.

    Turns out Jeb is not short for Jebidiah as I had assumed. It’s an acronym for John Ellis Bush. Hence when you refer to “Jeb Bush” you are actually calling him “John Ellis Bush Bush”.

    Man comes from a stupid family. Wubya may not have been an anomaly.

    It would be like calling me RL Lawson.

  201. Rutherford, modern US history is just not my strong suit. So I don’t know if LBJ got a “raw deal” in the film. It portrayed him as a president who seemed to want to “do the right thing”, but for political reasons, felt the time was not right. He wanted, instead, to wage “a war on poverty”, which affects all races. This played heavily in the story, because King was trying to use the front page of the papers to force the issue and MAKE it the right time for HIS cause. That seems pretty much in line with just about any president. He was concerned about votes, and felt poverty would speak to more voters than civil rights would.

    It also showed LBJ as a president concerned deeply about his legacy. In a discussion with George Wallace, Johnson tells him that he shouldn’t be concerned about what people think of them in 1965, but that they should be more concerned about 1985–after they are both dead and gone. Wallace says he doesn’t care what those people think, and neither should Johnson. But the film shows Johnson as caring a great deal. This also seems in line with just about any president.

    I know (only by reading today) LBJ defenders are saying he was along with the Civil Rights Movement all along, and that he worked WITH King, rather than being an adversary. But I didn’t see him as an adversary in the film. I saw him as a politician—and King, in the film, actually calls him one–understanding that people have their roles in life, and understood the role of a politician.

    The film shows Johnson making a call to the FBI, after Hoover previously told him they have ways of discrediting King–as well as other actions that could be taken. To me, I thought the implication went as far as flat out assassination. Johnson didn’t want any part of any of it, at first. But after King kept trying to force Johnson’s hand, he made the call. Soon after that scene was the scene where King’s wife is listening to a recording and questioning King about his other women. I tend to believe presidents have more influence over their FBIs and CIAs than they like to let on, and I’m not much on plausible deniability. So I have no problems believing Johnson sicked the FBI on King. With that said, I also wouldn’t find it difficult to believe Hoover acted on his own. But the film definitely ties Johnson to the actions of the FBI.

    Of course, in the end Johnson DID do the right thing. And, to me, that is what is important. When or why he did it is secondary to THAT he did it. He could have easily continued to kick the can down the road, as so many had before him. Especially since he ultimately decided not to run for re-election, anyway. And I think, for that, he should be credited, and his legacy remain in tact.

  202. Moore has a million examples – you’d love her. She’s the one that played Sarah Palin, then insulted Sarah Palin afterwards at one of those million award shows these narcissists have. But my dislike of that raggedy anne twit started long before that. Moore is one of Hollywood’s most notorious, hardcore Leftists – a real POS.

    Freeman is a liar, racist and asshole. Fine actor, though.

  203. I agree with Huck. LBJ was a masterful politician who knew how to force fellow legislators to see things this way. “Let us reason together” sometimes involved figuratively and almost physically yanking body parts. He was an earthy fellow who delighted in putting Hubert Humphrey and men like Bill Moyers into situations on his ranch which compromised their masculinity. He conducted business while sitting on his toilet.

    Doris Kerns Goodwin a biographer probably had an affair with Johnson. Johnson was also an election thief who in the early years earned the nickname of “landslide Lyndon.”

    Johnson recognized better than Kennedy that the Civil Rights bill combined with the Great Society would imprison blacks into the Democratic party for generations. He had disdain for blacks and often used the N word. He also knew that members of his own party presented the greatest obstacle for passage of the law. However, on one level taken from his days as a teacher, he sympathized with blacks. Johnson wanted to sign the law, and he knew what was politically feasible.

    Of course Johnson was so determined not to be a Democratic president to lose a war, he was sucked into and destroyed by South East Asia. He knew he was beaten, so he declined to run. None of that matters, though it would make a great movie.

    All that matters is Huck is absolutely right. Johnson did the right thing for complex reasons, but he did it when he didn’t have to.

  204. LBJ was a political opportunist…in a nutshell. The Kennedys hated Johnson and Johnson hated them. Back then, Texas was a Conservative Democratic state and Johnson was brought on the political ticket for the sole reason to win Texas in the ’60 Presidential election.

    Though I have no doubt because LBJ is white, he’s portrayed badly by the black racist producer and Rhino Ass Okra, neither who care if they were historically accurate and said as much, LBJ was also a despicable human being. Truth be known, so where Jack and Bobby Kennedy.

    Any President that “deflowers” a low-level personal assistant at 17 in the West Wing is a sociopath, especially a married one with small children. And there is no doubt, that is exactly what Jack Kennedy did. Unbelievable the crap that goes in Washington – then and now.

  205. I don’t think Martin Luther King was a coward. He was a disciple of Mahatma Gandhi who first demonstrated for the rights of Asians in South Africa. While he was not above violence, he knew ” if it bleeds” it gets attention. His method of passive resistance was intended to maneuver the authorities into looking bad.

    Gandhi used the same tactics in India. The Brits with their superior power were counterbalanced with passivity. They knew if they attacked Gandhi and his protesters India would be inflamed with violent revolt.

    Martin Luther King calculated the best way to make the white government look bad was to turn pubic opinion against it. His method included arrests and goading the police and citizens into violence. He was as much a politician as spiritual leader who cut corners when he could. He also thought well under pressure. Someone stabbed him in the chest when he was younger, and he told the rescue squad not to remove the knife because it was cautorising the wound. I think he was more good than bad.

    Rutherford, we seem to have a similar taste in music.

  206. Tex one of the things I sorta love about you is how you have your cake and eat it too. LBJ WAS a scoundrel BUT “Okra” was a scoundrel to portray him that way. LOL You are too much my friend.

    You’ve launched ad homs against Moore and Freeman with almost zero factual support. I watched Moore’s portrayal of Palin and it was no Tina Fey. She depicted Palin as a woman overwhelmed by the process and I think that’s damn fair.

    As for Freeman, other than the sexual allegations you’ve got nothing and you ignored the video I posted. Are you telling me you don’t agree with that sentiment?

  207. I think James summarized things nicely. The N word was a regular part of LBJ’s vocab. I confirmed that after reading it here many times.

    To hear his defenders, you’d never know that. They’re fucking lucky Oprah didn’t have LBJ referring to “niggers” left and right in the film for “accuracy”. The critics ought to STFU.

  208. I watched Moore’s portrayal of Palin and it was no Tina Fey.

    You’ve never documented how stupid Barack Obama is about oil and Russia, yet you call him a mediocre President in the same sentence calling Obama a rank amateur. You’ve never documented what makes Obama mediocre. That makes Sarah Palin far smarter than the idiot and liar Obama; not that fact is much to brag about. Moore is you with money and fame – a used car salesman in a houndstooth coat and first class weasel – only you’re not hiding behind the Leftist curtain. Julianne Moore is cowardly and stupid as they come.

    Freeman is an incestual POS and damn near pedophile tapping his own, who said Obama’s been “sand bagged” by the white man. Want me to go on? Should I hold Truman Capote and Woody Allen in high esteem too?

    And Moore’s wooden acting and cowardice is enough to condemn her. Do I really need to document what a witch, coward and slug Raggedy Anne is? Really? You think that ammonia skank would have done that to Nancy Pelosi if she had played her? Hell no. Therefore, Moore is a hack, coward, and hypocrite.

    LBJ was a despicable human being. So was JFK. However, I want their despicable nature explained correctly – not by some black racist and failed propagandist with an axe to grind, whose not much different than Louie Farrakhan. Any white person worth their salt sees what Okra and her idiot accomplice are trying to do here.

    How’s that having my cake and eating it too?

  209. They’re fucking lucky Oprah didn’t have LBJ referring to “niggers” left and right in the film for “accuracy”.

    It might have been more accurate… What word does Fat Okra use to describe Negroes in the film? African American? LOL

    You know what my favorite quote from a Black Movie was, Rutherford? 😈 My girlfriend and I were sitting in an all black audience besides us. True story. Pretty good movie too. I’m lucky I didn’t get lynched, because I laughed out loud and virtually every head in the audience turned around to look at me.

    You know the damage one ignorant Negro can do? We were in France in the first war; we’d won decorations. But the white boys had told all them French gals that we had tails. Then they found this ignorant colored soldier, paid him to tie a tail to his ass and run around half-naked, making monkey sounds. Put him on the big round table in the Cafe Napoleon, put a reed in his hand, crown on his head, blanket on his shoulders, and made him eat bananas in front of all them Frenchies. Oh, how the white boys danced that night… passed out leaflets with that boy’s picture on it. Called him Moonshine, King of the Monkeys. And when we slit his throat, you know that fool asked us what he had done wrong? ~ A Soldier’s Story, Master Sergeant Vernon Waters

  210. “They’re fucking lucky Oprah didn’t have LBJ referring to “niggers” left and right in the film for “accuracy”.”

    I only recall 1 instance in the film, where he said something along the lines of “let the niggers have the vote” or something similar. I don’t recall who he was speaking to, and when it got said, I took it on multiple levels. It showed, “for accuracy”, that he did use the term. By this time in the film he was getting really frustrated with the whole thing, so I think they used that to show that perhaps he mainly used it when his filter was down, as opposed to just when he felt comfortable. And, to me, it also seemed to show the blurring of things. My grandpa, from Missouri, called black people “niggers” until my grandma, from Illinois, convinced him to finally stop. And he was not overtly racist, from what I could tell anyway. He used the term in the same way someone might call a blonde a “toehead” or a redhead a “ginger”. It was grandma who got him to understand it was unacceptable, even as a purely descriptive term, especially with the little ones around (primarily me).

    “What word does Fat Okra use to describe Negroes in the film? African American?”

    I honestly don’t recall. It seems “black” was pretty much it, but that might just be how my own mind processed things because “black” is what I use when I’m not feeling forced to be PC.

    I think the film took great measures to humanize its characters and give them depth. The sheriff and George Wallace, were of course, demonized—but they were assholes, anyway. Most of the other main characters were shown as people with flaws, suffering from many internal conflicts. Nobody was shown as perfect. I was actually somewhat surprised it was not an canonization of King. I think it was well-written and well-acted.

  211. I lived through that era. Black was becoming the preferred term for African Americans. Even George Wallace was a complex character. Later, he won the governorship with many black votes.
    After Huck’s summary, I have a better image of what the movie is than I did. We will likely rent it sometime.

    As you know, Essex was my wife and my first marital home. We still keep track of the area. The UK is having a bout of winter, and I am posting a parody which became viral.

  212. It’s towhead.

    Definition of “TOW.”

    1: short or broken fiber (as of flax, hemp, or synthetic material) that is used especially for yarn, twine, or stuffing

    2a : yarn or cloth made of tow

    b : a loose essentially untwisted strand of synthetic fibers

    It means really blonde.

  213. What is the left’s big fucking deal with the Sniper movie? I haven’t seen the movie but neither have its loudest liberal critics. Is it just Hollywood freaking out about an Eastwood flick being so ravenously consumed instead of their trite bullshit?

  214. So I did watch American Sniper last night. I think it could have been better. I think the story of Chris Kyle is a story worth telling. I just didn’t like how it was told here. And I don’t say that lightly, as I tend to really enjoy Clint Eastwood’s direction.

    The film has multiple sub-plots. But what I didn’t like is that none of them were given time to really develop and draw me in. I felt rushed. I understand that they were trying to fit in a large chunk of time into a 2 hr movie, and I’m no film maker, so I won’t posit any opinions on how it should have been done. But it just didn’t grab me in a way I was hoping—in the way that the trailer did.

    With all that said, I think Bradley Cooper does a pretty good job with the role. But none of the other acting was that noteworthy.

    It’s definitely still worth seeing, and it can be an enjoyable film. But I’d just say, for a more fulfilling movie experience, maybe lower any high expectations you have just a touch. This is no Hurt Locker or Zero Dark Thirty, unfortunately.

  215. I’m just hearing this morning for the first time about far left reaction to Sniper. Joe Scarborough says the left is pissed that the film is a “positive” portrayal of soldiers and war in general.

    Huck did the film leave you with that impression?

  216. It did not leave me with that impression.

    The film in no way portrays a positive image of the war. By the end of the film, several of the characters are questioning the war either openly, or in letters home, as are their families.

    I also don’t think it paints a positive–or a negative–picture of the soldiers. From what I know as an outsider, it paints a truthful image. It shows men who regard what they are doing as their job–a job they have agreed to put as a duty–a duty to each other and to their country. It shows men who are loyal to each other. Kyle is shown as returning over and over again out of loyalty to the men. He feels a duty to protect them with his “talents”. (I dont want to say too much here to avoid a spoiler that is a major facet of the story). He is shown as struggling when he returns home in between tours, as well as after his service.

    Glorifying war or service is not how I would describe the film, unless one sees the qualities I listed above as glory. With that said, Kyle’s friends do make a big deal about his “legend” status. But I suspect that’s just the truth. He even tries to downplay it at times–seeming somewhat uncomfortable with it. But it all goes back to his duty to protect.

    I think it shows some of the realities of the war and the soldiers who fought it.

  217. R, from what I’ve read on the interwebs, many of the liberal freak-outs are from those that hadn’t bothered to watch the damn movie before spouting off. I have not seen it myself but I’m with Tex. Anything that provokes this kind of reaction from the liberal Hollywood Intelligentsia must be a good thing. I’ll order three blue ray disks and I don’t own a blue ray player.

  218. Huck’s impression sounds good to me.

    War is a failure of diplomacy. Nations pursue geopolitical and economic goals with weapons to get what they failed to achieve at the negotiating table. Any war, including our revolution is only good in the sense that it is a necessary job like butchering a steer or dressing a chicken for food. Soldiers are less interested in why they are on location than in getting home safe and to save their collegues who do the same for them. There is no one war. Each soldier and civilian in the neighborhood experiences his/own war.

    You should read “Why Men Love War” by William Broyles in Esquire Magazine in 1984.

    Something is wrong with leftists. This is not a movie to them. It is an attack on their identity matching their electorial defeat. I’m glad the movie is so successful. Each ticket is a punch in the nose to them.

  219. But is it “rhetorically proximate” to encouraging war?

    ** GUFFAW ** Tigre my friend, you got a damn good memory. I had completely forgotten about that brilliant quip – wasn’t that Chrissie Hayes that said that stupidity?

    Huck, I have never really understood why everybody was so taken with ‘The Hurt Locker.’ I didn’t think it bad and I didn’t think it particularly good either. I agree that Zero Dark Thirty was a very good movie – which the “experts” characterized as not as good as ‘The Hurt Locker.’ If memory serves, I thought Zero Dark Thirty the best movie I saw that year.

    Either I’m a lousy movie critic or these experts and I disagree what makes for an entertaining/good movie.

    I’m trying to recall, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Clinton Eastwood directed movie that I didn’t like – The Unforgiven and Gran Torino my two most memorable – though I think Million Dollar Baby was Eastwood’s most successful film to date.

  220. ” I have never really understood why everybody was so taken with ‘The Hurt Locker.’”

    I actually didn’t like how Hurt Locker portrayed soldiers as sort of mindless and bloodthirsty. But, the way the story was told was riveting. Just the nature of dealing with bombs makes for edge-of-your-seat kinda stuff—for me, anyway. Even when it wasn’t full of action, it was full of suspense and drama that immersed the viewer. That immersion is what I thought was lacking in American Sniper.

  221. It’s pretty transparent why the Left would hate American Sniper. First, it’s military and contrary to what 90% of the Left says, they believe the military the bottom of the barrel; more so, the people like me who sing the military’s praises, are most often the Left’s most reviled – dumbasses living out here in the heartland too stupid to understand how good Barack Obama really is and too loud in our damnation of anything Leftist.

    Then you’ve got a turncoat director like Eastwood who dared to say we need to get rid of Obama.

    And then when the movie breaks all the January box office records in Leftyville Hollywooden, that turns the moonbats apoplectic. As I told a “lib critic” last night who was mocking Kyle’s wife for being successfully sued by the insufferable reprobate Jesse ‘The Body” Ventura:

    No matter. We’re going to turn Mrs. Kyle into a multimillionaire and there’s not a damn thing you military hating POS can do about it. Now wing that “a_hole.”

    He’s still cursing me. 🙂 Chased me all over the internet last night.

  222. Just got to the James Taylor bit. Holy fucking shit. Couldn’t get the whole “That’s What Friends Are For” celebrity cavalcade together so JT had to go it alone?

    Rutherford, WTF???? Seriously. From the minds of your brain trust. How do you. . . explain that shit?? .

  223. Tigre my friend, you got a damn good memory.

    It doesn’t take a good memory to mock the same line every 3 months.

    Folks who keep mocking “corporations are people my friend” don’t have a good memory. It’s just the gift that keeps on giving.

  224. Rutherford, WTF???? Seriously. From the minds of your brain trust. How do you. . . explain that shit?? .

    Even MoJo could not make sense of it.

    I think it’s a novel approach to foreign policy. When 20 of your citizens get slaughtered, we’ll sing you a song to make you feel better.

    When AQ drops its first nuke, we’ll dispatch George Harrison’s son to sing “Give Me Love”

  225. Folks who keep mocking “corporations are people my friend” don’t have a good memory. It’s just the gift that keeps on giving.

    Insane jealousy you can’t do the same. 😛 Sorry, but corporations are people, giant,unless you picture I Robot as shareholders. And I dare you to prove otherwise, CORPSEman.

  226. A friend asked if I had heard what Obama will say tonight. I told her. She asked me to listen to what Joni Ernst’s response will be. As you know, she is the first female and veteran as well as Iowa’s first female senator. We know people but not her from her home town of Red Oak.

    My comment is relevant because the Military Times says relatively few veterans or active duty troops will be guests. Leftists like Obama have an intrinsic hatred of our military and anything patriotic. It is reflected in the guest list as it is in the reaction to Clint Eastwood’s success.

  227. So, the “rhetorically proximate” ain’t doesn’t apply? You thought it was genius when Lil’ Chrissy Hayes said it — so much so you took credit for it last time I said it. 😆

    I guess if Mitt said “unions are people” it would’ve made sense to you.

    I’d like to think you read or tried to understand Citizens United. Not really. I’d never trade the delight of laughing at your Beavis and Butthead routine every time you say it thinking you’ve scored. Oh Numbnutz, where are you? Rutherford needs his counterpart.

  228. I got no use for the SOTU bullshit-a-thon. The Cliff Notes will do.

    Well, unless he can scare up Yusuf Islam to help him convey his inanity as only a well-past-his-prime, A.M. soft-hits, singer/songwriter can.

  229. You thought it was genius when Lil’ Chrissy Hayes said it — so much so you took credit for it last time I said it.

    I wish I HAD said it. A beautiful use of language, something you lost appreciation for when you moved from the intellectual northeast to the “rustic” South. Now you find it fashionable to laugh at people who try to use the language at its best. Goes over well with the rest of the guys here at the bar.

    Now I’m just waiting for Muffy to chime in on her preference for down home Illinois vs phony Brown University.

  230. “When 20 of your citizens get slaughtered, we’ll sing you a song to make you feel better.”

    Because sometimes a #hashtag message on cardboard just doesn’t say enough….

  231. Now you find it fashionable to laugh at people who try to use the language at its best.

    Language at it’s best. MSNBC; home to America’s current crop of Patrick Henrys and Daniel Websters. The Black Congressional Congress – America’s highest Ebonics.

    More Cowbell!

  232. Today, I read Yemen was teetering on the brink of catastrophe and overthrow. I would remind everyone Yemen is what Obama recently used as his model of American foreign policy success.

  233. I can’t say that I know of a more worthless term than “rhetorically proximate.” It figures you’re impressed by it you giant intellectual, you. 🙄

    Binders filled with women. Tee hee hee.

  234. “80% Of Americans Support Mandatory Labels On Foods Containing DNA!”

    My personal favorite is the petition to ban dihydrogen oxide. And the “petitioner” convinces folks to sign based on H20’s ordinary properties – can lead to suffocation in large quantities – has no caloric value, enough buoyancy to lift large weights, etc.

  235. So last week I went to a major metro area with a large diaspora of Muslims that has had some issues with radicalization, specifically supporting foreign fighters traveling to support State Department designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations. I had the opportunity to sit down with state and local LEOs, as well as the resident Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) to discuss issues of radicalization and homegrown violent extremists. I also had the opportunity to go to one of the state prisons to discuss radicalization and security.

    Was pretty interesting, namely looking at how the LEOs were making efforts to build ties with the diaspora. I was able to sit down with some of the diaspora leaders to discuss radicalization, which was interesting, but was less than helpful in that I knew they were lying to me me on several issues. I guess the challenge is to decide on whether their deceit was more about protecting their community, or protecting their asses–more to see on that later I suppose.

    The one thing I saw was a concerted effort to not talk about Islam in any way, shape, or form–except at the prison. There, there is a concerted effort to identify and prevent radicalized or fundamentalist preachers, imams, etc, from gaining access. The only problem is that they have no Islamic experts, so they don’t know the difference between Hanbali and Hanafi, let alone Salafism, Wahabism, etc. They did mention that the Nation of Islam was a problem (shock, I know), but that was all they could readily identify.

    Interesting trip…

  236. I like ultracrepidlarian. Joni Ernst did all right, but she disappointed my wife and me. The high school gym in Red Oak was filled with people celebrating with a party. They gave her rave reviews, but of course they were biased. An Omaha station interviewed some of them, including a former teacher. Joni graduated as class validictorian in 1988.

    She did revive one memory, plastic bread sacks on shoes when it rained. Kids did do that. My brother and I were lucky to have overshoes which were hand me downs from cousins.

    My wife and I didn’t watch much of Obama’s pack of lies. When we did, I thought of the Ukrainians who charge that Russia has sent in regular troops. A fierce battle is killing many people near a destroyed but strategically located air port. Ukraine doesn’t have enough resources. Volunteers from other parts of the country are helping treat and remove wounded soldiers and civilians. One doctor complained that trucks they are using are thirty years old. We turned the station back to a movie.

    Ukraine asked for military resources, but Obama refused. Republicans included help in their budget bill, but I don’t know what happened to it. gorilla’s interesting trip combines with the rest to show that Obama lives in a dream world, and he is looking for new immigrants.

  237. Obama always tells so many outrageous whoppers and wild exaggerations, it’s to be expected – he’s a master at mendacity and politic to spoon the inane.

    But the most glaring revelations of the night weren’t even the purposeful lies – it was taking credit for things in spite of Obama’s own jackbooted government of thugs and thieves. Like the price of gasoline.

    Good grief, Americans are ignorant when they don’t understand this hollow man has been doing everything in his power to destroy the petroleum industry.

  238. The only problem is that they have no Islamic experts, so they don’t know the difference between Hanbali and Hanafi, let alone Salafism, Wahabism, etc. They did mention that the Nation of Islam was a problem (shock, I know), but that was all they could readily identify.

    I think this represents much of the problem in fighting our battles, Gorilla. I doubt but a handful of Americans have a clue to what you just said here – and I readily admit I had to look up the first two mentioned.

    “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

  239. The SOTU is now about ceremony. Nothing more. I dare any of you to show me the SOTU where it wasn’t platitudes or as Tex and James call it, a pack of lies.

    The SOTU is an opportunity to love the guy if you already do, or hate him if you already do. Nothing more.

  240. Anymore I expect lies and false equivalences from Bobo AND the bought media. He will benefit from cheaper gas, even if it has nothing to do with him. That’s the way we roll. We tie our economic ups and downs to politics when it generally has nothing to do with it.

    We’re seeing $1.739 here for regular. I just got back from CA where gas was a dollar or more per gallon. I imagine it’s getting near $1.50 over in oil country. It sure does a lot for local business and attitudes.

    Our wars are still going on. Private contractors are still being paid to wage them. The amount of ghost soldiers on payroll in Iraq just happen to equal the size of the IS force. Of course that’s just coincidence. 🙄

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/12/01/prime-minister-says-iraqi-army-has-50000-ghost-soldiers-on-payroll/

  241. Obama is irrelevant. It’s about containing the damage. The Great and Powerful Oz’s bag of “free” goodies is just laughable.

  242. Let’s not forget Romney said if we reelected Obama gas prices would go through the roof. They ALL lie about what influence they have on things.

    Politics is a nasty business boys and girls. It’s why way back in 2007 I never intended to start a “political blog”. I failed – partly because I got caught up in Obama-frenzy.

  243. Imagine that. Romney made a prediction based on Obama’s policies, not the Saudi’s. Obama of course has no influence on oil production. 🙄

    Shoot me.

  244. LOL WTF are you trying to say? Tigre do you type on a mobile phone? Cos half the time I have to read twice to even understand you. Maybe it’s the constant sarcasm.

    In the same comment you just said Romney was right that POTUS effects oil prices and then you credit the Saudis. Which is it?

  245. Those are mutually exclusive? WTF??

    The glut of oil which is driving gas down is because of Saudi production. Please name for me one single Obama policy that would lead to lower gas prices? Fuck man. Think.

  246. Are you familiar with the term “energy independence?”

    Oh forget it. You still think that idiotic Chaz Maddow bit about global markets destroying a myth that we affect prices through domestic production which forgets the legal restrictions on international sales. Whoops.

    Or it may be my love of the “rustic South” rather than the eloquent locutions of your MSNBC brain trust that tell you all you need to know to toe the line. At least that was what I was thinking when I drove past MLK’s birthplace as I do everyday. Rustic. Bumpkin.

  247. Like any politician, Bobo takes credit for the good and distances himself from the bad. He has little to do with any of the outcome. His power is in swaying the public. He doesn’t write what comes out of his mouth. He cannot speak candidly in public if it doesn’t conform to the script. The man’s just an actor. They are all just actors. We want an icon. It’s really witchcraft when you understand the incantations and collectivism that manifest. Little is what they speak reality, but we make our own reality by giving it credence. Thus our land becoming dog shit nobody wants to scoop or claim responsibility for.

  248. Seems to me there is at least one “platitude” that was not only made as a campaign promise and openly mocked by the Rutherford cabal, but proven completely true and accurate.

    Who was it that said, “Drill, Baby, Drill!” again?

  249. How F’ing Phony is this entire Obama Administration? 😆 😆 😆

    Woman Showcased by Obama in SOTU is a Former Democratic Campaign Staffer

    The woman whose story of economic recovery was showcased by President Barack Obama in his State of the Union address is a former Democratic campaign staffer and has been used by Obama for political events in the past.

    Rebekah Erler has been presented by the White House as a woman who was discovered by the president after she wrote to him last March about her economic hardships. She was showcased in the speech as proof that middle class Americans are coming forward to say that Obama’s policies are working.

    Unmentioned in the White House bio of Erler is that she is a former Democratic campaign operative, working as a field organizer for Sen. Patty Murray (D., Wash.).

  250. Re the pack of lies. Absolutely right, Rutherford. At least one writer has said we should return to the early days when a president sent a written state of the nation message. Woodrow Wilson, a progressive was the first president to present his speech version of the state of the nation, I think

    I have already argued that Sarah Palin would have been a better president than Obama if only for the reason that she would have had better advisers. She did say “drill baby drill” and Obama said it was impossible to produce enough oil and new wells wouldn’t influence the price for years.

    If Obama didn’t lie, he would be mute. We owe our cheaper energy to private exploration and investment. Most of our newly exploited energy comes from private land. He knew ignorant people would believe his taking credit for what he didn’t do.

    Jimmy Kimmel’s show interviewed people about Martin Luther King’s speech yesterday. Another person asked with people were reacting to Dr. King’s death at 91 yesterday. Knowing that we are superior to folks still supporting liberals, but there are so many of them.

  251. Went and saw American Sniper – good flick; perhaps not quite as good as I thought it would be, but still excellent movie. I’ll watch it again.

    My take was similar to Huck’s take in most ways. I definitely thought this one the most “war realistic” of the trilogy of Hurt Locker/Zero Dark Thirty/American Sniper. Unlike the other two, much of this movie centers on struggles of the loved ones too so the movie bounces around some – there’s very little time in character development. Like Lone Survivor, I’m sure the book far better than the movie.

    Here’s my conclusion. Chris Kyle was an American Hero. Chris Kyle was a man I wish I could have known and called my friend. And thank God, there are men like Chris Kyle willing and able to confront real evil so that the rest of us may live our lives of comfort and luxury. This is what I call true”hero.” It makes Kyle’s tragic death even more senseless.

    Fun Footnote: I actually was childhood friends with the twin older brothers of the guy who plays Chris Kyle’s dad in the movie when Chris is young – it’s a small but significant part. I am sure I knew the man as a kid, but he would have been a almost five years younger than me, young enough I don’t remember him much as the twins moved when I was in about seventh grade. And I was too dumb to put two and two together until I read who Ben Reed was in the local rag. Small world.

  252. James, in particular, the “other” McCain shreds feminists. He’s made a study of them and just nails them to the wall. Poke around. I find him very amusing.


    The DOJ never should’ve been involved in Ferguson. What a fucking waste.

    On to the next manufactured incident.

  253. “I refuse to fit the mold society tells me I have to fit into,” – Mia Love from The Other McCain

    This is all fine and dandy so far as it is not her main motivation. The way she phrases this makes it sound like her conservatism is less principled and more a thumb of the nose at society. I might have been more impressed with “why should society assume I have to be a liberal?” The “I refuse” sounds more defiant than based on any true belief in conservative principles.

    Time will tell whether she comes off genuine or not. I have not heard her talk about politics so I reserve judgement.

  254. Yes, El Tigre he is amusing. I will explore further. I agree with Rutherford. Time will tell.

    In a related development. Feminists have been trying to convince the Sun to stop printing page three women topless. Its an old tradition. Rupert Murdock said maybe the practice is old fashioned and should stop. Feminists declared victory after a lapse, but now the pictures are back. Feminists say they may have to continue fighting.

    During my attempt to change “Take Our Daughters to Work Day” I got to see the inside of the NOW leadership.I was polite, and they told me things. One member of the ruling officers told me they all were petty, vindictive and stubborn,. I woman who had contributed articles to their publication and gave me a copy of her book, had a chance to join the leadership, but she was so irritated by internal politics she declined.

    Those news readers who held up their hands on live TV ought to feel embarrassed. There is another reason the race baiting scam was harmful. I told you our 97 year old neighbor died less than two hours after we saw her on Saturday. The funeral was yesterday, and it was huge.

    I saw some high school classmates for the first time in years. Ferguson and immigration were topics of conversation. The hostility and violence fantasies were a surprise. Ferguson and the other dishonest stories incited racial animosity which had slumbered until the press and politicians exploited the tragedy..My class mates had also seen videos of the looting. Surely, my high school friends are not the only people with similar emotions tied to Ferguson.

    The race baiters are not much different from the liberal accusations of rape on college campuses. They cheapen the discourse and make it harder to accept real victims from the fakes.

    The next manufactured incident might be a bombed NAACP building in Colorado Springs. Google Earth has pictures disproving a major explosion, and the FBI doesn’t seem to think there is a case. However at least two black congresspeople including the Texas village idiot Shela want to stir up trouble.

  255. Jeff Gordon says he will retire from NASCAR after this season.

    Republicans are discussing down—– grading the House bill banning most abortions after 20 weeks. The comment section illustrates my point about events like Ferguson and racial attitudes as expressed by several of my high school class mates. Several of the commenters wrote that they were fine with early abortion if the victims were black.

  256. Republicans are discussing down—– grading the House bill banning most abortions after 20 weeks.

    I saw that, James. Ironic these Republicans would pose that downgrade on the day of infamy that made it perfectly legal to abort 57MM of the most innocent the last 42 years. The only ones that will be punished are the very people who will lose their positions and the dumbasses wailing who will assure someone more Leftist will capture the office – once again relegating the Republican Party to 2nd class.

    However, as I have said here time and again, and did so this morning with all those “Republicans” wailing and gnashing of teeth, this “late term abortion” antic cheapens the entire debate. Not only does it alienate social Conservative voters who are the most dependable voters when politicians back down from their promises, the proposition doesn’t even address the real question directly.

    This “tinkering” with social engineering makes for good theater I suppose, but never even addressed the real question of Roe V. Wade and states rights.

    As I told these “social conservatives” this morning much to their chagrin, you don’t win the debate with legal restriction – you’ve lost for 42 years now. You win the debate by changing hearts and minds in a secular world.

    As someone once said, “Nobody pulls defeat from the jaws of victory like Republicans.”

  257. It’s a damn shame America’s corrupted media couldn’t have been as thorough concerning Benghazi or IRSGate as they have been on under inflated footballs.

    In the immortal word of Caretaker from the original ‘The Longest Yard’…

    All I’m saying is that you could have robbed banks, sold dope or stole your grandmother’s pension checks and none of us would have minded. But shaving points off of a football game, man that’s un-American.

  258. As I told these “social conservatives” this morning much to their chagrin, you don’t win the debate with legal restriction – you’ve lost for 42 years now. You win the debate by changing hearts and minds in a secular world.

    DAMN. I did not see that coming. Not what I expected but Tex, you nailed it right there.

  259. So here it is and kiss my bony ass if you don’t agree.

    1. Boehner is a jerk.
    2. Netanyahu is a jerk. And I’m beginning to suspect a racist jerk. No head of state of an ally has shown such disrespect to a sitting POTUS.
    3. Imagine if back in 2008 Pelosi invited Hugo Chaves to address a joint session of Congress … you boys and girls would be going batshit crazy.

    I’m gonna research who’s running against Bibi this year and root vigorously for him/her. I can’t believe the arrogance of this war mongering asshole!

  260. That’s what I did expect. LOL. Oh Rutherford. You’re still an Obama groupie. You’ll never change. You can’t accept when Barack Obama is treated by his political opponents like Obama treats his opponents all the time, every time. I know. I won both times.

    Chavez…. :facepalm:

    P.S. – Remember just a few weeks back when Obama used Yemen as a model of success. ROFL. The man has the touch.

  261. Another thing which angers and saddens me is that the Ukrainian army yielded the wrecked Doneysk airport today. A doctor said “In France 17 ppl were killed & millions came to the streets. Here 17 ppl were killed today alone, and the world doesn’t care.” A bus and kindergarten were shelled. We could have helped prevent this.

  262. If Anthony Weiner was Rutherford’s favorite Congressman of all time, before Weiner deemed a sociopath, this man has to be Rutherford’s second favorite Congress Critter – he’s progressive and crazy.

    A trial to determine whether U.S. Rep. Alan Grayson’s wife committed bigamy when she wed the congressman has been delayed because she required emergency surgery to remove breast implants.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/01/greatest-democrat-ever.php

  263. Tex if you check the archives, I’ve consistently differentiated between Wiener and Grayson, being a major fan of the former and a major critic of the latter.

    James, no one cares about Ukraine nor the entire continent of Africa. It’s a sad truth.

  264. Boehner is a jerk.

    Netanyahu is a jerk. And I’m beginning to suspect a racist jerk. No head of state of an ally has shown such disrespect to a sitting POTUS.

    Imagine if back in 2008 Pelosi invited Hugo Chaves to address a joint session of Congress … you boys and girls would be going batshit crazy.” – R

    Such disrespect? Are you serious? The things Obama has said and done to Netanyahu far exceed the sin of being asked to express the thoughts of a state to a joint session of Congress. Obama is negotiating with a state that regularly attacks our ally, and currently holds to the position of wiping our ally off the map. Disrespect? Really?

  265. Billionaire Jeff Greenewho flew his wife, children and two nannies on a private jet plane to Davos for the week – has some words of wisdom for the average American: “America’s lifestyle expectations are far too high and need to be adjusted so we have less things and a smaller, better existence. We need to reinvent our whole system of life.”

    Democrat Greene is not unique, and is a perfect example of the Democrat party…

  266. The Democratic Mantra ’49 – Things haven’t Changed – written by Clarence J. Thomas, (R OH), and placed into the Congressional Record and saying its author was a “prominent Democrat of the State of Georgia.”

    Father, must I go to work?
    No, my lucky son.
    We are living now on Easy Street
    With dough from Washington

    We’ve left it up to Uncle Sam,
    So don’t get exercised
    Nobody Has to Give a Damn –
    We’ve all been subsidized

    But if Sam treats us all so well
    And feeds us milk and honey,
    Please, Daddy, tell me what the hell
    He’s going to use for money.

    Don’t worry, bub, there’s not a hitch
    In this here noble plan,
    He simply soaks the filthy rich
    And helps the common man.

    But, father, won’t there come a time
    When they have run out of the cash
    And we have left them not a dime
    When things go all to smash?

    May faith in you is shrinking, son,
    You nosy little brat;
    You do too damn much thinking, son,
    To be a Democrat.

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