400 thoughts on “Ferguson

  1. WHYYYYYY???

    Makes no sense.

    Because “social justice” means appeasing emotions, even if it offends actual justice.

    A mob has to have its blood, and the media has to demonstrate its own power.

    Surely you’ve heard of people being tried in the media. This Is the media engaging in the penalty stage. It was bound to happen sooner or later.

    ” If we resort to lawlessness, the only thing we can hope for is civil war, untold bloodshed, and the end of our dreams. ” -ARCHIE LEE MOORE

  2. I saw the article. It was actually published yesterday–just in time. It doesn’t give the house number, but it gives the street and town, which isn’t Ferguson, and a detailed-enough description of the home, which would only require a Google street view to find. At the bottom of the page it says a picture has been removed, which leads me to believe they originally had a picture of the house. That is supported by the fact that Slate DOES have a published photo of the house.

    The press wants this. They NEED this. They are above nothing.

  3. I have a question for Tigre or BiC. Do the business owners have any grounds to sue the city of Ferguson for not protecting their businesses when they knew in advance there would most likely be violence?

    I’m hearing the Mayor of Ferguson is pissed at the Governor for the failure of the National Guard to engage.

    It is kinda odd. Gov declares state of emergency in advance and then lets city burn down.

    Seems to me there are more than a few Keystone Kops involved in this outfit.

  4. I think America should take a lesson from Israel. I know that’s like fire to Poolman’s ears, but these Israelis are a heck of a lot more clever than we are.

    Here’s what I do. FOX News and probably a hundred other media types have many of these POS on video. Find the perpetrator – man, woman or child, doesn’t matter. They torched a business, they burn too.

    Find their address. Or their parent’s address – the perpetrator’s primary residence. Raze their house and force them to watch – at the end of a tank’s turret pointed at their heads – proportional to the damage they caused. Torched a business, you lose it all, including the stuff inside.

    Then you’re free to go. You do it again, we cut you in half.

    P.S. – When you’re daughter is 25 and all alone driving in South Chicago alone, then you get back with me about me being paranoid, Rutherford.

  5. “when they knew in advance there would most likely be violence?”

    Making that assumption public would be labeled racism.

    “Gov declares state of emergency in advance and then lets city burn down.”

    Governor is a democrat. Mayor is a republican.

  6. When you’re daughter is 25 and all alone driving in South Chicago alone, then you get back with me about me being paranoid, Rutherford.

    You know full well I understand daughters Tex. I was nervous two weeks ago when my wife took my daughter into Chicago to buy some fabric.

    But I wasn’t worried about them being on the highway.

    Is everybody accounted for and ready for the holidays? I hope so.

  7. “There oughta be a law.”

    There oughta be laws that force law enforcement officials to enforce the law and penalties for when they don’t?

    Really?…..

  8. BiC I read that piece by that fool. I would think on your more charitable days he’d evoke sadness in you, not anger.

    The man has given up hope, is totally self defeating and self-sentenced to permanent victim. And saddest of all, impressionable youngsters who don’t know better listen to him.

  9. Next Dim up for looking for new line of work – Missouri Governor. This Nixon should have been impeached when he demanded a vigorous ‘prosecution’ for Officer Wilson; guess it took Nixon’s sending in the guard 24 hours too late to really stoke the disgust for more Dim incompetence.

    I see Obama has been linked with a child sexual predator and gay rights activist flying around on Airforce 1 and his last name is Bean – big bundler for Obama. I can remember the days of George Bush, the media went into a frenzy to tie Jack Abramoff to George Bush. I wonder why this Terrance Bean is not making news? Seems sodomy on 15 year old teenage boys don’t rate, I guess.

    Anyway, it’s hardly worth mentioning now as Bean only one of many scumbags Obama associated, floating in and out of the Oval Office. But when I read it, I thought it was going to be that British Mr. Bean, who I thought pretty funny. Glad to read it’s not.

  10. . “Find the perpetrator – man, woman or child, doesn’t matter. They torched a business, they burn too.”

    I don’t often agree with Tex but the biblical saying of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth might just apply in cases such as the Ferguson incident.

    You do have to wonder when one of the protesters stated after a police car was turned over and put on fire “this is so exciting”. She might whistle a different tune if her car had received the same treatment as retaliation.

    I’ve read the pros and cons of events regarding Ferguson and IMO it all boils down to don’t F@*K with a cop!

  11. I always like looking up in the air on Thanksgiving break time and picturing some of the people flying home, excited to see their family.

  12. Perception is politics, not reality. Reality is data. The bridge between the two is communication. Exhibit A –

    (Don’t give up before the one minute mark.)

  13. ^^^It looks like that woman to the left of the commish is wearing a flower hat.

    Anyway in the spirit of a Thanksgiving homecoming I always bring piano music for the drive (or what used to be the flight). I couldn’t find my favorite version of this but it’s always been one of my favorites. With the added bonus of some funny audience shots –

  14. Very pretty, Muffy. Being my mother was a piano teacher for well over 50 years, and I played once upon a time, my bias may be showing.

    I still believe a piano played well is the prettiest musical instrument of them all. Fortunately, my oldest seems to be sort of, when time permits, carrying on the tradition of her grandmother.

  15. Rabbit quit laughing, Tex is full of soul!

    Tex I forgot that your mother taught piano for so many years. My mom started taking piano lessons at age 55. You gave your daughter a gift by having her learn.

    This is the another Thanksgiving/Holiday piano tune I listen to a million times each year –

  16. I think for the 2016 election we should get George Zimmerman and Darren Wilson to stand outside a polling place dressed in camo and armed with clubs.

    For security.

    Black people won’t mind…right?….

  17. I wish every single cowardly and murderous liberal pundit who sparked these riots would hear Chief Flynn out.

    In 60 seconds, he sums up the cowardice and the evil of the MSNBC race war instigators that Rutherford tunes into daily.

    Liberals are evil. I’m really starting to see them that way. They have tried to exploit and manipulate any event they think might have a chance of sparking racial division.

    You just can’t explain it any other way any more.

  18. Tex plays the piano. I’m not sure why that made lol.

    My Dad had great plans for me in the MLB; my mother, dreams of classic pianist. I’m afraid I failed them both, miserably. 🙂

    One year of college ball and The Piano Man played poorly doesn’t get you too far. I’m afraid the greatest gift I received from the piano instruction is I could type better than most of the boys in the 8th grade. That’s got to be worth something.

    But that’s okay. My baby daughter was actually pretty gifted on the piano as a small child, much more so than her oldest sister who still plays, and she said, “No thanks” as well. “I want to be a ballerina.” We Taylors like to carry on with bad precedents. Do you know how many times I’ve watched The Nutcracker? Sheer torture…

    My oldest daughter used to get visibly angry with her younger sister in preparation for recitals. My oldest would practice and practice on the piano and still sound mechanical. Her younger sister wouldn’t do a damn thing to prepare, make her old man squirm and sweat in the pew waiting for her to play, and then play beautifully.

    Every parent, whether they realize or not during the raising of their own children, looks back and realizes God has the most amazing way of providing payback for your own sins as a child. Stubborn nature; Check. Smart mouth; Check. Keeping mom and dad up at night; Check.

    Somehow, baby still turned out to be a quality kid.

  19. Tex you know I usually reject PJMEDIA on sight but I was so moved by the article you posted that I tweeted it and published it to my Facebook page.

    I don’t know why but Simons description of the destruction of the black community seemed so heartfelt and so non-judgmental of blacks themselves that it nearly made me cry.

  20. Black people won’t mind…right?….

    If memory serves the three New Black Panthers were at a polling place in a predominantly black neighborhood.

    Let this old dog die, would ya?

  21. Rabbit as I stated earlier in this thread I am no longer convinced that the role of media in civil rights is a benign one.

    Wilson is now being tried on TV using the evidence dump from the prosecutor.

  22. “Rabbit as I stated earlier in this thread I am no longer convinced that the role of media in civil rights is a benign one.” -R

    Maybe one day you will understand the entire sum of so called progressive politics is not a benign one.

    Liberals don’t ever address the truth. Ever. Because they can’t exist without a perpetual black ghetto and they know it.

    I used to think they just ignored the murder of black people and urban crime. I’m now convinced they long for it and, at times, actually engineer it.

    Evil.

    And there is no better liberal outlet then this one to scan over the years for proof of not giving two shits about urban America. Oh, you will find fiction about Tea Party lynchings and Sara Palin graphics responsible for murder….but you will not find any soul searching in terms of liberal politics using the ignorant and fatherless has total pawns. The mob is a tool.

  23. “Let this old dog die, would ya?”

    I will not. I regard voter intimidation as a serious offense. I would think someone who has an issue with a 50 cent stamp required for mail-in ballots would agree.

  24. Oh, you will find fiction about Tea Party lynchings and Sara Palin graphics responsible for murder.

    That’s unfair cherry picking Rabbit. I retracted the story on the “lynching”, something you won’t find most bloggers do.

    I’ve written over 500 articles here and I’ve tried to honestly address political and social issues. I’ve never focused on urban plight and in retrospect maybe I have missed the forest for the trees.

  25. In this mornings discussion of Ferguson on Morning Joe everyone has conveniently forgotten the kid had just robbed a store. He was not merely “jaywalking” … he was a suspect in a crime.

    WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?????

  26. You are more honest then most and I believe you to be genuinely duped. But you asked what is wrong with those people? Nothing is wrong with them. You are watching the premeditated division of America by people who don’t mind arson, riots, and death in order to gain a political upper hand. Wake up, man.

  27. A Happy Thanksgiving to all. Drive carefully, stay safe. And remember…there is always tomorrow for leftovers and turkey sandwiches!

    We are having a nice wet snow that is covering the trees and all. It is beautiful.

  28. “he was a suspect in a crime.”

    But that’s victim-blaming, Rutherford. Also, innocent-until-proven-guilty means he was just a sweet little teenager. C’mon, you saw the pictures. Those cigarillos may as well have been skittles, bro.

    Some people are crazy with what they believe. “He was mad because he got called a ‘pussy’, so someone had to die” And racism, because the KKK has infiltrated every police department in the country. I’ve seen calls for local strikes…nationwide strikes…and yes, even global strikes. “Let’s shut down the planet!” (that’s a direct quote)

    These are just some of the things I have read on the accompanying comment sections of live video feeds. The only bright spots are that they are nearly all pro-2nd Amendment, and they completely bag on Obama.

  29. Huck I watched a presser in, I think, St. Louis the other day when a communist asked “do you agree that if no indictment comes, there should be global civil unrest?”

    All I can say is we have certainly elevated the dignity and glamor of the thug life far better than Tupac or Biggie ever did.

  30. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. We just had a toast with champagne and tears were shed between my tender wife and kids. This is the last Thanksgiving it’s just the four of us. Where did time go?

    Rutherford, Tigre, Rabbit, Gorilla and any of the rest of you who still have kids at home. I know I can speak for James and Poolman. Enjoy them. Appreciate the small things and ignore the material – you won’t remember that. And don’t take it for granted. It will flash before your eyes. And one day, you awake to realize you’ve got kids that are grown and now more accomplished than you will ever be – and I promise you it will be your proudest moment.

    My wife and I were alone Monday before the kids got home. She’s not one of these weepy women folk type, generally. But I looked over while eating my bagel at Einstein’s and my bride has tears in her eyes, welling up. And I said like a dip, “What’s wrong?” Probably years of saying stupid stuff with paranoia setting in.

    And she reminded me what this Thanksgiving means. We’ve lost two family members this year, one yesterday, had two babies in the family, and the circle of life continues on. So I took another bite of my bagel and said, “Uh huh. We’re getting old.”

    “No. You’re getting old.” I blamed it on this place. 😈

  31. “Rabbit what I’m viewing as stupid you’re viewing as calculated” -R

    Blaming ignorance is impossible. You are willfully choosing not to aknowledge reality.

    They know every detail of the incident.

  32. “WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?????”

    They want a centralized police force. I heard them say it myself today on radio.

  33. A lot has been made of the low voter turnout for the midterms this year. True. All the same voter turnout has been under 40% for 5 out of the last 10 midterms.

  34. Happy Thanksgiving, one and all. I pray the time with friends and family is blessed. I have much to be thankful for, one is having this place to drop in and occasionally vent.

    Stay warm and safe and away from that evil teevee! :mrgreen:

  35. I really didn’t post that stuff to make a call either way. But I thought it was interesting to know what the protest was about, as well as his comments regarding his relationship with the police officer’s union.

  36. It would be as though the shooting of Mr. Brown had not occurred in within any state, so the feds would have exclusive jurisdiction.

  37. Damn. That Hillary Rotten Clinton speaking engagement Rutherford provided is telling.

    If any of us didn’t already recognize the venality of the Clintons. And this is the best the Dims have to offer after the massive failure and corruption of Obama? LOL

  38. The logic of the criminals’ rights movement is as clear as it is crazy: Because the outcome of the criminal justice system disproportionately penalizes African-Americans, the solution is to decriminalize behavior that all civilized countries have suppressed and punished since the dawn of history. Because felonious behavior is so widespread and the causes of it so intractable, the criminals’ rights movement insists, society “cannot afford to recognize” criminal behavior below a certain threshold. ~ David Goldman.

    Well said…

  39. Happy Thanksgiving

    As opposed to the Hillary Tour….as far as we know we aren’t having crudité…..wtf is crudite? I refuse to google.

  40. Essentially a veggie tray rabbit.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all the patrons here and their loved ones too
    Be safe and enjoy this very American day.
    brought to you via Executive Order, hat tip Abraham Lincoln

  41. The logic of the criminals’ rights movement is as clear as it is crazy.

    Bravo. This is exactly what I was trying to say in my Rand Paul post a few weeks ago which I botched. I’m pretty sure I made the same point in my August Michael Brown piece.

  42. BiC good Godzilla review. There’s nothing quite like watching your own kid find joy in your own childhood fascinations.

    While I was at your place I also read your monarch piece. I have only two things to say:

    Logic has no place in the actions of government. You MUST believe that deportation is physically impossible, but verification of tax status and criminal background checks for the very same people can be accomplished with the wave of a wand.

    I think you misinterpret the hurdle of mass deportation. It’s not a practical matter. It’s a moral matter. How would we look as a country, hunting down and frog marching millions of people out of the country?

    Redefining terms and words in order to rhetorically spin dross into gold is acceptable linguistic alchemy.

    No. It’s called politics and it dates back centuries.

  43. Yeah, but those final stages, with that deep, thick and productive cough, is the cough of victory. At that point you control the cough, it doesn’t control you (unless you laugh hysterically)

  44. “I think you misinterpret the hurdle of mass deportation. It’s not a practical matter. It’s a moral matter.” -R

    I actually agree. The answer is full amnesty coupled with a wall. Its total bull shit that we can’t close the border down. A giant electric fence and army. Its unethical that coyotes run the American immagration system. No Mexican can be blamed for being here illeagally. But for the love of America it must stop.

    But, even if this was a grand bargain, the exucative can’t be trusted. In fact, thanks to Obama, it can nevet be trusted again. So this never can happen.

  45. “Actually Tigre, isn’t Thanksgiving a day when EVERYONE should check their privilege?”

    Why yes.

    I honestly can’t believe you said that. That’s rhetorically proximate to some stupid MSNBC lack of awareness/grievance horseshit.

  46. I am painfully stuffed. Oh God I feel like a fat fuck!

    Tigre’s official scientific pole: much of the black urban community has had enough of Obama and the Trayvon/Ferguson type liberal manipulation. Some of the harshest criticism of Ferguson and the media are communing from my less melanin challenged brothers.

    R, I hope someday you’ll realize how much better the world would be if you and you liberal friends never accused another person of being a racist, even if it’s true.

  47. Tigre I sincerely hope you’re reading your community right. This Ferguson thing has really shaken my political foundations, at least as far as race is concerned.

    I’m sorry you believe I called you a racist. I don’t believe I ever did, as it is very offensive. I am 99% sure I called you (and others) racially insensitive and now after Ferguson I need to even reevaluate that.

    P.S. You seem to easily forget that I was sincerely upset by the flack your son has taken over race. He’s an innocent kid and I always felt for you as a father in that situation.

  48. Rutherford, saying that deportation is a moral issue while looking past the immorality of the very act of them coming and staying being not just a violation of law but a willingness to take something of value from others is a pretty astonishing disconnect. But the logistical argument is the one pitched when the question is discussed by serious people…and it simply doesn’t follow that the acts described in Lord Zero’s amnesty are any more possible.

    As for the changing definitions is not a means of practicing politics.

  49. R, my comment should be read more literally. It wasn’t directed just at you. I really mean the world would be a better place if the accusation of racism disappeared even if true. Its misuse is out of control, is unbelievably destructive to the proxy accuser and accused, and it’s time to stop it. This Ferguson shit is a wake up call.

  50. We will have to agree to disagree. But I do agree there is cause for skepticism that Obama’s five point plan can be executed efficiently.

    As for politics, I honestly don’t know where you’ve been that you equate politics with truth, if that’s what you’re saying.

    I’m sure you were doubly amused when Obama announced to a crowd this week “I changed the law”. I’m beginning to think he reads your blog and is deliberately fucking with you. 😆

  51. I find myself ashamed of the American consumer anymore. Even the name makes me heave…Black Friday.

    Sounds like some doomsday cult or bad rock band name. I saw fat sacks of crap camped out around ToysRUs tonight and wanted to drive into the crowd.

    Bah humbug…

  52. “I’m beginning to think he reads your blog and is deliberately fucking with you”. -R

    No. He is fucking with you, too. But you neither have a care for how our unique republic works nor the long term political insight to see how this is true.

  53. “Needs to be but probably won’t be.”

    Nope. I can’t imagine a better way to engender apathy if not downright hatred for the black community than what I am witnessing. MSNBC’s twisted take on it says it all.

  54. I’ve come to respect Black Friday. It gives me a healthy respect for the cold and indiscriminate power of the ignorant mob.

    These people need to be always in the back of our mind.

    So, today is my ammo inventory day, gun cleaning day. It was on black Friday last year I decided to buy my back woods shack.

    Over cheap panties:

  55. dead rabbits Black friday YouTube had a Best Buy Black Friday ad on it for their “door busters”. Ironic or prophetic?
    I’m with Tex that the day is depressing.

    I said before I view my foreign policy through a lens of “spheres”. I’ve recently decided that on domestic matters a theory of historical cycles is now undeniable.
    The Ferguson saga no longer is based in the incident but instead is steeped in a mix of once befores. Same liberal/socialist angst,anarchist crush and black militant ideology are all present.
    The same formulas are stewing in the labor field.
    The resentment and hate factor is about to be ratcheted up and folks like most of us here are going to feel the burn the most.

  56. “dead rabbits Black friday YouTube had a Best Buy Black Friday ad on it for their “door busters”. Ironic or prophetic?”

    ha ha…I did take note of that myself

  57. Thankfully, I did not overeat. It took much discipline, but I hate feeling bloated and so I was very careful. I love turkey when it isn’t dry and there was yummy ham, too!

    I detest rabid consumerism. Black Friday because retailers traditionally begin to operate in the black this day as opposed to running in the red for the year. The evil connotation does fit the day, however. Most of what people are fighting over was produced in other countries by child and/or slave labor. I refuse to participate. The day is a true testament to the power of marketing and indicative of the vast degradation within a once great society.

  58. The resentment and hate factor is about to be ratcheted up and folks like most of us here are going to feel the burn the most.

    No doubt. And it will continue to happen until…

    Some drastic steps are taken. Can’t depend on cops, handcuffed with politically correct, cowardly politicians running the shop. Can’t depend on the legal system – it’s overrun and broken. Prisons are full and frankly, I’m tired of paying for them. What we need is an informal, untitled mercenary mob, manned by otherwise law abiding, rational players with some sophisticated, high powered weaponry, far beyond the OTC stuff at Walmart or local gun store. I mean enough that these thugs think they’ve seen hell unleashed on their worthless asses – walls of fire, fervent heat funded by dues to the Home Owner’s Association. The kind of weaponry you find a hundred thug spots on the charred, melted pavement in a parking lot, identified if lucky by dental records. Stupid enough to fight over cheap panties.

    Irrational, amoral imbeciles that only respect one thing. Force. In mass. Prepared to be use it in the most heinous manner possible. I estimate it might take two occasions. And order would be restored for a decade. Meek as lambs.

    Consider this. What if a few of those shop owners had their metal framed windows wired with a 480 circuit last Monday night? Some bastard throws an aluminum trash can at the window, and it arcs back to fry his sorry ass like a weld spot to the pavement? Maybe a delayed timer on the Pizza Hut, the looters gathered for the spoil before the C4 booby traps commence? A couple of cyanide laced hams, the little Indian man smiling at the camera as his store looted?

    You don’t think this problem couldn’t be solved? 😈 Tex has solutions. I’m just not sure most Americans have the stomach for them. Yet. They will.

  59. Ha. That reminds me of my Dad’s buddy who got sick of the local feral blacks breaking into his garage. He rigged that thing with enough electricity it could kill a man.

    He found out it worked pretty could when came own drunk and went in his garage.

    He was found unconscious but lived.

  60. I know we’re being hyperbolic, but know that the booby trap death is treated as murder (lawyers call them “spring-loaded shotgun” cases).

    When I lived in Boston I remember reading about a guy who lived in the sticks that had his firewood stolen one too many times. So he bored out a log, put a stick of dynamite or something similar in it, and paced near the top of the cord. His neighbor was blown to smithereens.

  61. “He is fucking with you, too.”

    He’s trolling us, Rutherford. He knows we know it’s wrong and he is intentionally trying to anger us.

    On the other hand, he thinks you’re stupid. He knows he can bury his illegal actions in legalese so that you either don’t care to read it, or can’t understand it if you do. You’ll appeal to the authority of his lawyers, and to his education—both of which you have done on these very pages.

    But you’re not stupid, Rutherford. When are you going to prove that to him?

  62. I know we’re being hyperbolic, but know that the booby trap death is treated as murder (lawyers call them “spring-loaded shotgun” cases).

    😀 You got admit, it’s appealing? I was going to wire my old truck with a kill switch and a cattle fence with wire on the ignition switch when they were breaking into cars in my neighborhood – 500,000 volts, low amperage. Had it all figured out. Wouldn’t kill them – but it damn sure lights you up when it hits you.

    Was afraid I was too absent-minded to remember to turn it off. LOL Put the key in the ignition and rattle my teeth.

  63. That alcholic loser did two terms in Nam and never victimized another person in his life. Yeah he deserved to be robbed because he had an alcohol problem.

    Nice try, Belky.

  64. I’d say being a drunk was right up there at the top of his problem list along with having to deal with black animals.

    But I’ll give him the bennie of the doubt since it was you who said “feral”, not him.

  65. According the FBI, 54 percent of all robberies were done by black people.

    Its hard to wrap my mind around that stat.

    54%!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If you are being robbed, its more then likely by a black man. More then likely.

    Oh yeah…49% of ALL MURDERS done by blacks.

    Fucking feral.

    So sick of the rest of us, blacks included, having to hide our outrage over the jaw dropping reality.

    Black’s make up what, 13% of this country? Or it it less now?

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf#disablemobile

  66. I know it makes me a pussy to say words matter.

    You can fully acknowledge how messed up the “black community” is without reducing them to animals.

    Dehumanizing language is the first step towards inhumane solutions.

    You can drop the “ignore the real problem” schtick with me. Blacks have embarrassed and disappointed me more in the past four months than in my entire life. I’m done making excuses. I want to see accountability.

    But I will not reduce them to animals.

  67. To call those in Ferguson animals, is an injustice to animals. Animals are not hate mongers. Animals don’t go seeking to destroy for the sake of destroying. Animals don’t foul their own nests.

    Rutherford, I don’t lump you in with the Ferguson looters, thugs, and criminals anymore than I do The Rabbit. But indirectly, every black who ever said that blacks can’t be racist because they lack power, has contributed to this lawlessness, amoral mindset and the racial animosity. Indirectly, you helped to provide the excuses that have prevented law enforcement to deal with this sordid element by providing cover when you made those asinine statements. Same goes with these Leftist, lily white folk and their phony guilt – which trust me, they have no real guilt. They’re equally immoral and lawless – and as brainless as this dummy marrying Charles Manson, I’ll assume seeking attention while being nothing but moral equivocators.

    I’m sorry you’re embarrassed. Black guys like you, civilized, law abiding and educated, pay a price for the generalization and the stereotypes. But the one thing you certainly should not be is surprised at the end results.

    When there is no accountability for behavior, deviancy is always on the downward path. And until the black community at large can come to grips with their culture debased and it is of their own doing, having nothing to do with history, nothing to do slavery, I only expect this to grow worse until other creeds have no choice but to utterly destroy it or be destroyed.

  68. Haven’t kept up with the chatter, but a couple of things for you, Rutherford:

    re: massive, lethal force with electricity, lasers, smart bombs to be used on the rioters. Very seductive idea, but you can’t do that. It completely blurs the line between legitimate (cops) and illegitimate (rioters) when one behaves exactly like the other, or worse. The proper course would be to announce in advance that legal, orderly protest will not only be tolerated, as a right guaranteed under the US Constitution’s First Amendment it will be WELCOME. Actually say that.

    Then say, “Any lawbreaker will be arrested by whatever means necessary, up to and including the use of lethal force.”

    Then call in cops to the extent that the ratio is nearly one/one with the anticipated mob. And, according to the doctrine of Broken Windows,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

    arrest immediately ANY and ALL lawbreakers, and make sure you have the means on hand to make that happen, including putting lawbreakers in cattle cars if necessary. Tolerate not ONE SINGLE violent act.

    Don’t for a minute think the looting is in sympathy for Brown’s death. It’s violent thievery, nothing more – and a crime.


    Your comment on “feral blacks” and not reducing people to animals. Agree. There is a very slippery slope here; we’ve seen it in action in lots of countries, and regarding people as animals is the first step down that hill. You have to keep your head about you; meet crime with punishment, nothing more. Punish the crime, don’t dehumanize the criminal; people may not be able to tell which one YOU are.


    I don’t have time to read all the comments I missed, but did anyone report about the NY Times’ publication of the Ferguson cop’s name, address, and his new wife’s name? jesus, what the hell is going on over there?

  69. But they are feral. That IS the problem.

    I’ve had a gun waved at me. My brother and my buddy have had a gun put to their heads. (My buddy actually in his mouth). I’ve told that story too many times to repeat. My wife’s aunt raped by dozens. My Dad left for dead in a pool of blood, the scars so much a part of him I never take notice. My family’s business had been robbed by gun point numerous times and in ’67 a three day war was fought at its location. All black aggressors. All. Black.

    They shoot people dead every day.

    They are fucking animals and they are feral.

    Every person, black and white, should be relentless calling out this segment of the black community out.

    Instead we either glorify it or make excuses while giving the animals hand outs.

    The feral problem is now growing at a faster rate then ever in the white community but we don’t see the crime anywhere near we do in the black community. Yet.

    And the liberals actually advertise hand outs IN MEXICO!

    These feral looters are animals. Animals only respond to fear. You cant reason with them. It only takes MSNBC a week of lies to whip them up into a frenzie. Worrying about their feelings….after they rape, kill and burn. How has that worked so far?

  70. Can anyone verify the information going around the internet that Wilson received a 6 figure amount from the media for his interview?

    Looters and predatory animals are similar in nature.

    Regarding Black Friday, beer and pot joined the list of deals. 800 people were in line in the snow and 15 degrees at the Lakefront Brewery in Milwaukee to get a shot at the limited -edition Imperial Stout Aged in Bourbon Barrels. The Grass Station in Denver sold out on their deal of $50 for an ounce. 🙂

  71. Pfaker,

    First, my condolences for the cricket star.

    Secondly, this from your link

    “The Times also informed all interested, torch-wielding, automatic-weapons-toting, Molotov-cocktail-throwing, store-looting miscreants that the Wilson home was a convenient “half-hour drive from Ferguson.”

    “Miscreants” is a decent word for them and one you apparently approve. I would replace it with “feral” but “miscreants” doesn’t have the power to denote the issue at hand.

    These people come from homes destroyed by welfare. The entire family structure is gone. They don’t even get married. And I mean hardly ever. The offspring is feral.

    Liberals must become aware of their consequences for what they have done.

  72. “Looters and predatory animals are similar in nature.”

    Raji, do you understand how much Wilson’s life is destroyed? You don’t, do you. A 100% innocent person. Six figures? And you are complaining? He’s lost his trade. He is a marked man for the rest of his life and you are angry he managed to get some cash for his little kids at home (their residence known thanks to “elite journalism”.)

    He will have to hide for the rest of his life and even his family are targets.

    But you compare him to the looters for making a deal.

    Disgusting.

  73. “But you compare him to the looters for making a deal.”

    WHAT????? DR, how in the world did you get the concept that I compared Wilson to a predatory animal or a looter????

    All I wanted to know was there any truth in the rumor regarding what the media paid Wilson. How did that indicate to you I called him a predatory animal?

    We really don’t operate on the same wave length do we? Where did I sound angry?

    As to my statement regarding “looters and predatory animals” that statement was in reference to Tex’s comments regarding animals.

    How about rereading what I wrote or should I go back and number my three subjects or in the future put each into a separate comments.

    I AM ANGRY NOW!!!!

  74. ONE MORE TIME!

    SUBJECT ONE: Can anyone verify the information going around the internet that Wilson received a 6 figure amount from the media for his interview? I AM CURIOUS IF THIS IS A RUMOR OR FACT- NO MALICE INTENDED (Frankly I don’t care one way or the other)

    SUBJECT TWO: REPLY TO TEX’S COMMENTS REGARDING ANIMALS:Looters and predatory animals are similar in nature.

    SUBJECT THREE: Regarding Black Friday, beer and pot joined the list of deals. 800 people were in line in the snow and 15 degrees at the Lakefront Brewery in Milwaukee to get a shot at the limited -edition Imperial Stout Aged in Bourbon Barrels. The Grass Station in Denver sold out on their deal of $50 for an ounce

  75. DR you are a teacher and you seem to be a good one. Surely you don’t misread your students as bad as you just misread me. On the other hand maybe you misread me because you were “assuming” that was what I intended to say sort of like the Ferguson/Wilson/Brown incident????

  76. “Surely you don’t misread your students as bad as you just misread me.”

    Its happened before, so yes.

    “On the other hand maybe you misread me because you were “assuming” that was what I intended to say sort of like the Ferguson/Wilson/Brown incident????”

    Not at all as I was quite shocked.

    But it looks like you are requiring a super duper apology….so here it goes:

  77. I have to side with Rabbit on the feral terminology. Rutherford you are absolutely right that words mean things and can lead to dehumanization. The other side of that rather large coin however gives us how ideal words are ostracized by thought police. (see illegal alien as the textbook case) Words as descriptors can’t be outlawed simply because someone not liking the way it makes them feel.

  78. DR and ex, have you guys watched the show To Catch a Contractor? I may have a new guilty pleasure. Low brow reality. . . and I loved it.

  79. Keeping with my earlier cycles comment I offer the following.
    Although in a previous thread I spoke favorably of Rand Pauls/Corey Bookers actions on laws regarding former felons I think some of the momentum law and order reform is getting isn’t such a great idea.
    California has two recently passed laws (Prop 36 & 47) that essentially guts the states “three strikes” law. My take is that the fiscal realities of running a prison system the size of CA’s is the biggest mover on this topic and I think that is a negative approach to public safety. Don’t get me wrong on the other end of the spectrum I think sentencing laws should be fairer and universal.
    The thing is though the cycle is clear. Prison overcrowding and tight budgets being fixed lickety split with a surge of retroactive releases,downgrading crimes and lesser terms for repeat offenders. The thing is though time and time again it has been proven that the criminal element remains criminal.
    Quick fixes of the justice system fix nothing.

  80. Tigre, you have to read the lawsuit portion on the To Catch a Contractor Wikipedia page. Irony at its finest.

    My wife is a huge fan of Adam Carrola’s (sic) podcast.

  81. I’m sorry. I read that wrong.

    Wow did you! I was gonna pounce but Raji did a fine job of defending herself.

    On a lighter note, headline on Steve Kornacki’s show this morning:

    Black Friday in Ferguson

    To which I thought “isn’t every Friday in Ferguson black Friday?”

  82. Both Rabbit and Alfie have missed the boat.

    Do you really think I give a fig if some hoodlums feelings are hurt by being called feral? Motherfucker gave up the right to be offended when he trespassed, destroyed and stole property.

    It isn’t what the word feral does to him. It is what it does to ME. It lowers my standards on what I will tolerate. It brings me one step closer to endorsing Tex’s violent fantasies. It leads ME to forget that they are not animals.

    No high horse here. I’ve thought of radical Muslims as animals … and notice I’ve advocated, tongue only partly in cheek, dropping a nuke on every country that hosts them and being done with it. See how easy it is to forget there are innocent women and children among them? How easy it is to forget non-radicals would get killed too?

    I challenged your use of the word “feral” Rabbit not because of its effect on some thug. I say it has a bad effect on YOU and it takes you further from arriving at solutions to the problem.

  83. Well, I went to watch the 3rd installment of the Hunger Games. My kids got me hooked on the books, which I read the last two in one weekend. Simple read, pretty good. Their capital reminds me of our capital. And I was thoroughly enjoying this one like the first two, when what do my eyes behold?

    JuliAnne Moore – as one of the main characters. It’s like having to watch Babs Streisand or Jane Fonda. ** VOMIT ** Come on, Hollywood. Find somebody else to cast besides this wooden, Leftist POS.

  84. First to dead rabbit. YES I AM A LOSER!
    If I recall correctly I thought you’d see stabilization by Thanksgiving and a declared end of the outbreak by Christmas. I was winning the stabilization bid for a brief moment. WHO is doing retro counting thing now though which is what is pumping the numbers up.
    Still the results look like I am indeed a L-O-S-E-R

  85. @ Rutherford…speaking of losers…
    I don’t want to put either words or themes in rabbits mouth but I really have to say his use of the word is not only properly descriptive but hints totally at what he thinks should be the cure.
    I think you are being unfair in assuming the only cure for a feral creature is eradication. Here it is plain and simple. Domesticate the thugs.

  86. Why does a beautiful mixed black woman with stunning green eyes “whitify” herself?

    I just turned on CNN and this middle aged hard looking white woman anchor says “I’m Suzanne Malveaux” and I say “HELL NO!!!!”

    I swear she’s bleached her skin and put on dark brown contacts. I’m heart broken. I had a major crush on Suzanne back in the day.

  87. She’s Creole, and a twin. I’ve spent some time with her and she’s very nice, very smart, smokin’ hot, unfortunately lesbian and very lib.

  88. I really think CNN is not to be taken seriously and just about done.

    For the life of me, I can’t understand why it decided why it decided to turn “MSNBC Lite.” Pick lowest rating and least credibility in the biz and look to compete for its audience? Sheesh.

  89. Alfie’s articulation of why I use the word “feral” is dead on.

    I don’t want to nuke them (although I insist the looters should be shot while in the process by the owners).

    There are so many of the feral ones I’ve gotten to know that could have been such good kids if they had a decent father.

    I’ve brought it up before, but I’ll never forget the conversation I had with a 13 year old boy about comic book heroes. Batman vs Superman. Aquaman vs Spiderman. Big smile on the kid’s face as we both talked about how ludicrous the whole thing is.

    He put a bullet in someone’s head a year earlier.

    Never had a Dad. I could tell how different he would have been if some imperfect working stiff was his role model.

    Many of the killers I’ve worked with had good in them.

    Rutherford carries on about why he hates the word feral. But he isn’t honest with us for his reasons why. He doesn’t fear the dark side of the force. He fears questioning the most basic foundations of his political philosophy. So he screams….No! Stop it! I can’t take it!

  90. (I hope you were kidding about skin and eyes. If not, you’re in need of a head-swat).

    I’m telling you she has changed her look and NOT for the better. Maybe it’s just age. I don’t watch CNN and can’t say how long it’s been since I last saw her.

  91. Rutherford – re: “feral” and what it does to the utterer. Agree. Many of these criminals are utterly unredeemable, and what happens to them matters not. But the bright line between Them and Us is VERY important.

    When you get down on their level and start calling for crazy kinds of retribution, then they have infected YOU.

    You deal with these people by enforcing the law, but you need to REALLY enforce it. Without prejudice, without anger, and without exception.

  92. “Many of these criminals are utterly unredeemable”

    95% of those criminals were not born that way. They became that way for a reason.
    That reason needs to be screamed from the highest peek.

  93. “You deal with these people by enforcing the law, but you need to REALLY enforce it. Without prejudice, without anger, and without exception.”

    Good luck with that when they riot. Sure, these things can be handled in ways that might subdue some of the destruction. But, we aren’t China. There is no real way to stop riots outside of an armed citizenry willing to risk it all defending their house or business.

  94. There is no real way to stop riots outside of an armed citizenry willing to risk it all defending their house or business.

    I don’t understand why you say that. In August, a virtual army came out in response to the rioting.

    There would have been much less damage last Monday if the “army” had shown up to protect the businesses.

  95. “I explained my objection to the word. Take it or leave it.”

    I’ll leave it. Your actions speak louder then your words. This blog is devoid of any critical thinking for why the violence is so bad in the black community.

    Pfarker thinks they are born that way. So at least gone on record. (As Pfessor)

    You, sir, our MIA, to quote the Chief.

  96. Pfarker thinks they are born that way. So at least gone on record. (As Pfessor)

    I’m not so MIA that you would think I agree with Pfesser.

    I’ve gone on record about causes and you never liked my answer. And you know what? I no longer like my answer. I’ve stated here multiple times over the years that black dysfunction is the direct outcome of hundreds of years of slavery.

    But slavery can’t account for blacks seeing a boy on video rob a store and then elevate him to hero/martyr. That, among other things is why I have to go back to square one on my belief system.

    Do you know how hard that is to do at 53?

    BTW I owe you guys a book review of “Please Stop Helping Us”.

  97. “There would have been much less damage last Monday if the “army” had shown up to protect the businesses.”

    Politics is why they weren’t.

    Rutherford, can you imagine the size of the police force that would have been required on the night of the announcement? And even if there had been adequate numbers, think about how it would have played out if the police tried to use force to stop a looting or arson. in progress.

    What would you have had them do?…..shoot someone?

  98. Also, in August you didn’t have dude’s step-dad yelling “BURN THIS MOTHERFUCKER DOWN!” in tandem with days of non-stop media-driven racial division.

  99. Why is it guys like watching lesbians but women have zero interest in watching homo sex?

    Because men fantasize about being in a “Menage a Trois”

  100. Raji’s right. I’m an optimist.

    I also don’t know if we’re wired all that differently. I don’t think most straight women have as much trouble with lesbian sex as straight men do male homo sex.

    But again, I am an optimist. 😆

  101. The answer is to be found in ordinary evolutionary biology. The man fantasizes about joining the two women; though everybody is on birth control nowadays, his prehistoric brain sees the chance to spread his genes two-for-one.

    Raji – do you think women like the idea of having sex with two men? I would think it less appealing than two-women-one-man; there would seem to be no evolutionary drive since she can only get pregnant by one of them.

  102. “The more we assume that the problem of racism is limited to the Klan, the birthers, the tea party or to the Republican Party,”-CNN

    Yeah…you know….its not just blatant racism anymore, like the Klan and the Tea Party……..

  103. Rutherford you have been good in the past at admitting to being out of your depths and I think you’re nearing that time again on riots.

    The student riots in the UK in 2010 serve as a great example as does the various US and Canada riots around G20 and various sporting events incidents.There is a clearly defined scientific dynamic in a crowd and it is something to behold.That the crowds inevitably find themselves scrambling away from the original cause behind the gathering is explained by the science as well. It is the tipping point where a gathering/demonstration becomes a riot.
    “Armies” of law enforcement do not necessarily improve the riot actions or outcome. In fact to some degree the science that is usually embraced can be likened to the tactics used to fight a forest fire.

  104. That is a bunch of dog shit. The scrolling proof of “cause and effect” is just sad.

    By God, they’re not going to let go of it. This shit always follows the exposure of false charges of racism. Justifications.

    Can anyone here point to one piece of evidence from the inception of the case, just one, other than the color of Wilson’s skin, that demonstrates the shooting was racially motivated? I know of none whatsoever, yet that has been the allegation all along.

    Look at all the good that comes from the liberal infantilizing of the black community.

    Vilify political opponents and control a voting base through perceived governmental dependence. Truth is unimportant. Control is all that matters.

  105. Tigre, I agree and yes, I think most men are optimistic. Men delight in being served. That’s why we have harems 😆

    Interesting question P. I have never heard a woman express an interest in having sex with two men unless it entailed two different nights 🙂 Men and women look at sex differently. Men appear to need the physical release and women seek an emotional release. That’s just a general opinion as of course there are times men need the emotional and women want the physical.

    Women generally do not have a problem with lesbians as long as the boundaries are respected. Most women enjoy the company and often are best friends with gay men. I agree, Tigre that most straight men do have a fear of gay sex. Maybe the boundaries for men are not as well respected.

  106. ET it’s not “perceived governmental dependence”. The government has made a conscious effort to instill dependence physically and fiscally in many communities with the black community being #1 or #2 on the list.
    It is rather ironic that during the hey days of FDR the feds tried to break up slums. Slums breed crime poster seen here was something to behold. That the same ideology lead to the creation of slums is as tragic as it is ironic.

  107. Tigre that most straight men do have a fear of gay sex.

    Fear is the incorrect attribute to apply – try disgust. Why is it that liberal women are always trying to apply “fear” to every male critique? LOL I personally think it is Leftist women who fear everything. A level playing field, insecurity in accomplishment, charges of sexism and racism ad infinitum, spiders, rats, other women’s looks and builds.

  108. “Can anyone here point to one piece of evidence from the inception of the case, just one, other than the color of Wilson’s skin, that demonstrates the shooting was racially motivated?”

    I never did think it had anything to do with race. It had to do with “power”. Brown ignored Wilson’s order and to add further insult he accosted Wilson in his police car. I said way back in this thread “don’t f@*k with a cop!
    Seriously, Brown was asking for trouble and he knew it. He just didn’t realize how far he had pushed and maybe Wilson didn’t mean to lose his “cool” but underneath the fires in Ferguson were ignited long before and just because one couldn’t see the flames it was smoldering.

  109. Gee Tex, was that statement directed to “Moi”?

    Only Tex can turn a statement into an assault on the Leftist women. Since I am not one I don’t take offense.

  110. I really should spend a Sunday morning looking at the “news”. The flurry of spin and snow job op-eds quite honestly nauseating.
    Mr. Dyson in the NYT and Stacey Patton in WaPo were especially heinous in their overreaching stretching of reality.
    Dyson comes off petty so that was an easier read but the WaPo piece was so obnoxious in its ipecac-ness. I will however offer Rutherford that one to see if it helps him one way or the other. WaPo
    The denial in black America is exponentially worse than the real or perceived issues whites have with blacks. That was my take away from these two pieces and I dare say that was absolutely not the authors hoped for outcome.

  111. My use of the term “perceived” was directed more at perceptions created by the popular media like the CNN bullshit piece.

  112. “It ain’t fear. It’s repulsion”

    After having my prostrate exam I’d go ahead and add fear to absolute repulsion.

  113. Tex regarding the CNN piece you threw the baby out with the bathwater.

    BOTH BLACKS AND WHITES misidentified the black as holding the knife. So the anti black bias effects everyone.

    Why? Because blacks scare ALL sensible people regardless of race. Why? Because they commit proportionately more violent crime.

    I think the study was worthwhile to discuss.

  114. Alfie, regarding spin on Sunday news, Professor James Petersen and Ta Nehesi Coates appeared on Face the Nation and there was zero discussion of black accountability. ZERO.

  115. Sorry Alfie, I couldn’t stomach the entire WAPO piece and had to stop reading.

    One problem with the Brown case is that it gets lumped with the Tamir Rice case. Rice was 12 with a toy gun. Cop shot him within seconds of arriving on the scene. THAT needs fixing.

  116. Well Raji, I can’t say you’re the only Leftist woman who can turn a statement of fact into an assault on your character while you’re in your search for perpetual grievance hustling, victimization, and sniveling. That was indeed intended for you, though you do occasionally make some sense – which is more than I can say about some of the mothballs in Hollywood. There are millions of you 🙂

    But you’re in some really awful company when included in that list: Lena Dunham, Rosie O’Donnell, Gloria Allred, Joy Behar, and other miscellaneous man haters claiming male, pinky privilege come to mind.

    One wonders how white men ever worked up the intellect and balls to land on the moon, or storm Normandy Beaches, or kill UBL, or even set up a country called America for all that fear we continually live in. 😈

  117. Raji is not a leftist. As best I can ascertain, she’s a centrist.

    I’d rank our lady semi-regulars and veterans from left to right:

    Sensico
    JAL
    Fakename2
    Raji
    Muffy

    My apologies for any ladies I left off the list.

  118. Well that’s good thing I think. Kind of shows you to be thoroughly embracing the accountability angle. I imagine you will be holding all sides to it. Good for you.
    I understand what you mean about changing a long held viewpoint. Like a habit its award row.

    One of the things that has always astounded me in the good cop bad cop citizen play is a lack of thinking cooly.
    I get that it sucks to be rousted by the police. Actually have been on the receiving end of some really ridiculous shit myself. The thing is though in 99.99999% of the time you suck it up. You can easily get your dignity back via law suit. Your teeth or life is something completely different.

  119. “BOTH BLACKS AND WHITES misidentified the black as holding the knife. So the anti black bias effects everyone.”

    Has anyone here actually seen the pictures? Are there other social cues in them? If Louis Anderson is the white guy and Lil’ John the black guy the test itself is probably the product of bias. I am curious.

    You’ll have to forgive me for doubting any libs “proof” of passive racism. The agenda is a given.

    It reminds me of that so-called study about black drivers in NJ getting pulled over for speeding more than white drivers. It too was proof of racism until the study included the number of black “speeders” to white “speeders” and the numbers proved neutrality.

  120. If Louis Anderson is the white guy and Lil’ John the black guy the test itself is probably the product of bias.

    That made me laugh. I think Louis Anderson would have been holding a knife AND fork. 🙂

  121. “Rice was 12 with a toy gun.”

    Unfortunately, it was a replica gun modified to even look more real.

    I don’t know anymore details, but suspect you don’t either. I’m reserving judgment.

    I bet if you were picking your daughter up from school and saw the kid waving that gun around you would have been screaming for a cop to take him out.

  122. “Rice was 12 with a toy gun. Cop shot him within seconds of arriving on the scene. THAT needs fixing.”

    His toy gun was an airsoft pistol that is meant to look like a real gun. The orange indicator piece that tells people it is a toy had been removed. The person who called 911 reported that they thought it was fake, but that it was scaring people. The dispatch did not tell the officers that the caller said they thought it was fake. The officer witnessed the boy put the gun in his waistband. He instructed him to put his hands up. Rather than doing so, the boy went for his toy.

    This is a tragedy. For the young boy who lost his life. For the family that lost a son. And for the officer who has to live with his mistake–however justified it may or may not have been.

  123. Unfortunately, it was a replica gun modified to even look more real.

    I don’t know anymore details, but suspect you don’t either. I’m reserving judgment.

    You’d be wrong. I “suspect” I’ve read more about it than you.

    1. Good Samaritan calls 911 complaining that person is waving a gun around and making folks nervous. He tells 911 operator that person may be under age and gun may be a toy.
    2. Report that gun may be a toy never gets to responding officers.

    3. Officers pull up and within seconds tell boy to drop gun, then shoot him in the chest.

    4. BeeBee gun does not have the orange colored piece that would make it clearer that it was a toy.

    5. (Spin alert) cops don’t do shit to resuscitate boy. Off duty FBI agent shows up to administer CPR, etc. Boy dies the next day.

    Now we can wait to find out kid has juvie record and actually screamed “I’m gonna kill you honky cop”. But if we take the story at face value, sounds like cop could have at least attempted deescalation before firing.

    And NO, this doesn’t need to be about race. It can simply be that every report of “gun” doesn’t need a Dirty Harry response.

  124. “But if we take the story at face value, sounds like cop could have at least attempted deescalation before firing.”

    Your timeline is missing the key parts.

    He saw the boy put the gun into his waistband.
    He ordered the boy to put up his hands.
    The boy did not put up his hands, instead, reaching into his waistband.

    Put yourself in the officer’s position. You are dispatched to a scene with a reported gun involved. You see the gun as you arrive. You’ve given an order to put hand up, which is ignored. Suspect (remove “12-year old boy” from your mind) reaches for gun.

    What should he have done differently in order to deescalate the situation?

    What should have been done differently was the dispatch. That’s where the mistake happened.

  125. Rutherford –

    re: the kid killed in Cleveland, Ohio. Just a goddamned tragedy, is all it is. Rutherford, Cleveland is a big, rough town, and it’s no small feat for a cop to make it through an entire career. Remember: that cop has to survive EVERY night he’s on duty for twenty years – and every day of the whole affair consists of dealing with violent people who just might kill him.

    No, just a crazy, fucked-up kid and a cop who had to make a decision. While it’s easy through hindsight to say he made the “wrong” one, the fact is that, given the situation, he made the right one.


    Speaking of a fucked-up individual: check out the Slack-attack on Raji, probably the most even-handed poster on your blog.

    Off his meds again. Or maybe it’s just a reminder that seething anger and self-loathing are just a few of the consequences of chronic idleness.

  126. Speaking of a fucked-up individual: check out the Slack-attack on Raji, probably the most even-handed poster on your blog.

    Last month it was James who was the most even-handed poster. Make up your mind, Kevorkian.

    I can actually tease with, Raji, even though I don’t agree with here about life. Unlike a phony, pretentious POS poseur like you, pfussy. I loved your preaching about level-headedness up there. LOL You’re too stupid and bitter to even recognize parody anymore.

    Normally I ignore a pervert in the swinging lifestyle like you. You’re not worth two dead flies and not only this room, but all the world knows it. But I want to go on reminding you just how unloved you are. 😈

    Hurry up and do the world a favor, will you? Just Do It!

  127. Hey Preacher Pfesser? Why don’t remind Raji what a swell guy you are? She may not have seen your swinging side before you became so incredibly pious here.

    Demonstrate to Raji your well established respect for women and the innocent – say a repeat of those long-winded stories of you treated your first wife, ex mother-in-law, and the penis you cut off the cadaver and nailed to the “prick’s door” for a few yuck yucks? As a doctor’s wife, I’m sure Raji will get a real hoot out of the last one.

    What a truly sterling example to humanity you are. And maybe a few more of those Dominionist stories too? Can you do that for us, Pistol Pete? 😉

    P.S. – it’s a damn shame that link isn’t allowed above. I can’t think of a more fitting poster to fit your imminent demise.

  128. Having just spent 8 weeks in Australia, I will almost guarentee that Pfarker is not Australian. His lexicon, semantic structures, etc, don’t match in anyway how Australians speak and write. Yeah, yeah, English is English, except that it is not.

    Pfarker is a Pfraud…

  129. That and the fact The Pfraud seems to be logging in from Australia utilizing a Virginia server. Truly an amazing coincidence and bit of technological chicanery…

    Like everything else Pfussy, I marvel at his adept technical skills. 😀

  130. Yeah. What a awesome understanding you had of the event. I don’t blame you. I would have been all over the internet talking about what that officer should have done.

    Yup….you were all over it. No need to reserve anything.

  131. “But if we take the story at face value, sounds like cop could have at least attempted deescalation before firing.” -Rutherford

    I don’t think your list of what you know is taking the story “at face value.”

    Regarding de-escalation – how much do you know about police training? Cops rely heavily on it.

    The 911 caller never mentions the word “toy” (though you used it 3 times in your face value report) and you should read the transcript or listen to the call (I did both) before characterizing the 911 call as you have. Where did you get the “Good Samaritan” from anyway? I’m just curious how you’re applying it here.

    Wasn’t the gun an airsoft? If it was then that’s an important distinction to make. They are not “toys” by any stretch of the imagination. Have you ever seen an airsoft gun before? I’ve used them for props and they can be 100% accurate even in weight. I should say expressly in weight because that often translates to realistic handling. The importance of the missing orange piece on the barrel cannot be underestimated. It hardly “makes it clearer that it [was] a toy.” We don’t even transport them all boxed up on public transportation. It would be suicide. Hm…suicide.

    I’m still looking for the dispatch call to the officers as that would also tell us something. Quite a lot I expect.

    “(Spin alert) cops don’t do shit to resuscitate boy. Off duty FBI agent shows up to administer CPR, etc. Boy dies the next day.”

    Did it occur to you that the first words the officer said when calling in the shooting might give some idea of the officer’s state of mind at the time of the shooting? Did you attempt (or succeed) in finding that call-in and listening to it for yourself?

    I realize that taking something “at face value” implies that you did not do any of those things – but lately you have been on this “words matter” kick and your word choice was provocative enough to suggest some prejudging somewhere along the line, either before the information got to you or after.

  132. Tex I picked out my winter break reading and it’s The Hunger Games. Thanks – I might not have finally gone for it but trust you unreservedly.

    I do plan to get through the trilogy before January. Somehow I’ve managed to forget or never actually heard anything that would ruin it for me. I only assume that Jennifer Lawrence’s character – well, she’s still around for the subsequent installments so I can draw a certain conclusion from that but it’s all in the how, isn’t it?

    I’m at the beginning of book 1, just when they begin their training. I love it. I read the people, places, and situations as analogous to certain realisms as well. Thanks again.

  133. Airsoft gun? That’s not a “b.b. gun.” The value of them is determined by how close of a replica it is to the actual firearm — down to minutiae. I haven’t looked, but I am willing to bet that there are a ton of accidental police shooting attributed to these airsoft guns.

    So why doesn’t this qualify as a racially motivated shooting? The Brown/Trayvon/Obama standards have been met.

  134. For what it’s worth I find Amazon Prime to be a worthwhile purchase. I liked it better at $80 a year but even at $100 it’s already paid off (my subscription was reset in August).

    I’ll read the Hunger Games trilogy for free, borrowing and returning each volume. I’ve had one book checked out for months and all I had to do to borrow another one was return it. A veritable bucketload of movies and TV series are available – many for free, most for cheap. All are at least discounted somewhat. Access to music is very broad. Free 2nd day shipping on most everything.

    Not much of a shopper but the deals on merchandise is quite tempt-y too.

  135. You’re welcome, Muffy. I found a few parallels, whether intended or not, for Panem to our corrupt capitol. Did make me wonder if that the author’s intent or at least provided the idea for the book.

    This is the first time I’ve seen the movie after reading the books. My kids made me sit down and watch the first installment and I have to admit, I was shocked that I liked it. Heck, I’ve even given thought to reading the Harry Potter series.

    And I’m stoked about ‘The Hobbit’ finale. I guess I’m still a kid in heart in need of two partial knee replacements. 🙂

    My kids have become a better barometer for my likes and dislikes than most adult recommendations.

  136. I highly recommend the Harry Potter series. Hmm, maybe I should check out the Hunger Games. Might be what I need while recovering from a total hip replacement.

  137. I highly recommend the Harry Potter series. Hmm, maybe I should check out the Hunger Games. Might be what I need while recovering from a total hip replacement.

    Ouch! I’ll join you in reading Harry Potter while recovering one knee a time. That is, if I can get Mrs. Taylor to decide when she’s available to stay around. Right now, Dad’s knees have becoming very secondary to planning a wedding and Christmas.

    I even tried the walking the daughter down the aisle misery to little fanfare over Thanksgiving. These Taylor women can be a tough crowd, especially when the gaggle is gathered.

  138. Raji, you should. I’m only a hundred or so pages in but already I’m having to use the book as a reward for doing stuff I don’t want to do. And if you like the first one you won’t have to wait for the next two – they are already written. 🙂

    I read the first three Potter books and liked them but I quit halfway through number 4 because I could no longer keep track of everyone and my reading sessions were spread too far apart. I’d give them a thumbs up.

    Ugh…total hip replacement. Sorry. But you won’t be if you pick up a Kindle Fire HD7 today at the low low price of $99. 🙂 But seriously do you have a reader? WiFi?

  139. From Tigre’s most recent link –

    “I graduated with a bachelor of science in Criminal Justice Law Enforcement option; I have learned that it is dependent on the action of the individual in police contact, not what he has in his hands, that determines the chances of him being shot or walk away.”

    Al Sharpton is really flirting with disaster. Did you guys hear his recent “sermon?” There WILL be justice in Ferguson. 😮

    People Get Ready.

  140. Bah. Sharpton isn’t taken seriously by much of the black community.

    ‘Cept by the White House. 🙂

    How’d you like that really sweet testimonial to destruction from the Dishonorable Louie Calypso screed, while the mostly young black audience gave him a standing O to announce ‘Destroy this Country!!!!’? Sounds like those law abiding, fine Michael Brown folk of Black America are ready to rumble. Hopefully, Ferguson beat the white guilt out of these white, moral, cowardly assholes on the Left. If they didn’t, the rest of us should.

    Burn this Bitch Down!

  141. Its non stop on Rutherford’s MSNBC. I’ve had it on today. Non stop race baiting. It never ends. On and On and On.

  142. They are trying like hell.

    Obama and Holder will do their best. But I really think everyone worth a shit has had enough of the race baiting, sympathy, tantrum wheel.

  143. Muffy, funny you should mention the Kindle Fire HD7. I’ve had a Kindle since they first came out but I’m afraid it needs to be upgraded. I was looking at the Kindle paperwhite for $119 but it would be $189 by the time I add wi-fi + 3G. I’ll take another look at the HD7. I do finally have Wi-Fi.

    Tex,of course weddings and holidays come first! My advice to you even if you do have pull in the medical world is to schedule it now. It has taken me over six months since I decided to have hip surgery to finally get approved. It’s a CYA world out there with having to get approval for surgery from a cardiologist, a pulmonary doctor, an anesthesiologist, complete lab and blood work up,etc. etc. If I had known I needed all these appointments I would have started the process months ago. Good luck!

  144. You too, Raji. Glad you said that, because I had no idea. I don’t remember my mother having to jump through hoops. Maybe she did. Actually, the wedding is about six months out, and I might try to hold on after that. But it’s getting difficult to even do the simplest of things. Like climb a small ladder, or walk the dogs. This getting old sucks. The scary part of this, is that the real symptoms only started manifesting themselves the last six months. Gulp.

  145. Gang, all of us in the wrong business. I’m going to quit slacking to please The Pfraud and go into the business of picture framing.

    My daughter comes home at Thanksgiving with this Certificate of Achievement – Alpha Omega Alpha – the Phi Beta Kappa of medical school or something like that. I don’t know. Sounded like a big deal. So my wife and I decided to find a dual frame that would hold this and her graduation certificate in May – something that would match approximately all these undergraduate things hanging in her bedroom, which will leave nice holes in the wall and scrape marks about this time next year.

    Good grief. You could mortgage your house buying a couple of these things.

  146. I’m not kidding you, I have maybe 40 to 50 frames on the walls of my meager 1800 square foot house.

    Fucking killing me.

    My wife is into painting and photography. Frankly, I find her style bizarre. But what do I care.

  147. Well I’m religiously illiterate so I didn’t know what eschatology was either.

    But Tex here’s the rub. Katie gets paid to ask questions, not answer them. So she asked questions ole Sarah could not handle as did a male reporter before her (I forget his name).

    Finally nobody ever said Katie should be a heartbeat from the presidency.

  148. I like Prime also Muffy but since I don’t read fiction I find the Kindle Lending Library to be pretty poor. I do like the Prime music collection.

    There must be something in the air. I gave my wife the Hunger Games trilogy on Kindle a couple of years ago and she’s finally getting round to reading it now.

  149. Um Raji. I think you missed the point. Make that two. This wasn’t an interview and Katie is not asking questions. You’re religiously illiterate, self admitted. No surprise – it’s partially why you’re a literate Leftist and little bit man hatin’ feminist. Katie was in attendance voluntarily. And Sarah Palin would know what eschatology meant. You missed the basis premise.

    Why is so hard for you Leftist women to admit there’s a huge double standard in the application of intellect you emphasize? That’s why I think it’s many of the butt ugly, Leftist women that are just insanely jealous of a brick house. This is simple high school game playing – Sarah’s the cheerleader and the Leftist harpies are the flat chested, cellulite butted, memaw armed, pizza faced non factors.

    Now don’t get me wrong. I might want to fiddle around with Palin and lay the wood to her. But I don’t think she’s particularly bright. But Nancy Pelosi was 3rd from the Presidency; Joe Biden is #2. Where’s your concern about, Mrs. Raji? Sarah Palin is Marie Curie standing next to those two imbeciles. Barack Obama is no giant either – of CORPSEMAN fame.

    You may be a misandrist and Lefty, but you’re not stupid. Can’t you admit those are two of the most dimwitted people on the planet, and your double standards in judgment are glaring in the limelight?

  150. Wrongerford Falson didn’t know shit about shit in terms of that kid with the air soft gun.

    Fuck you. I got the gun type wrong. That’s it.

    And Muffy I don’t know what you listened to but the guy who called into 911 said the gun might not be real. In the English language, that’s called a fucking toy.

    As for Good Samaritan, either he was that or a busy-body. Take your pick.

    Finally, from the video tape, kid drops to the ground seconds after cop car rolls in. That kid was not even given time to process that he was in trouble.

    If the new rule on this forum is “never second guess a cop” then we’ve got a major problem here.

  151. “Fuck you. I got the gun type wrong. That’s it.”

    Yeah…no big deal there….it only looked EXACTLY like a real gun.

  152. Yeah, maybe he should’ve waited for the bullet to leave the barrel before leaping to conclusions.

    Biden is a fucking idiot’s idiot. Anything you say about a “heart beat away” is hollow.

    But humorous.

  153. I’m telling you, Rutherford – flibbertigibbet Slack is off his meds. He’s got his thesaurus out again.

    Have a little fun with him, Raji – it’s worth a boo for a boring Tuesday afternoon.

    “Sarah Palin is Marie Curie next to those two…”

    Sarah is Marie Curie next to no one. There is not a more ignorant person without a chromosomal defect on the planet. Ask her witch doctor friend…


    “Wasn’t the gun an airsoft? If it was then that’s an important distinction to make. They are not “toys” by any stretch of the imagination. Have you ever seen an airsoft gun before? I’ve used them for props and they can be 100% accurate even in weight.”

    No they’re not, and no you haven’t, Fibber McGee. They are plastic and they ARE toys by EVERY stretch of the imagination; but unless you are comparing them to one of the Glock poly-framed pistols, their weight and handling are nothing like a real firearm, and even the Glock is demonstrably denser. My son and his friends play Airsoft-war all the time and I’ve had my hands on several Airsofts. Other than appearance, it handles nothing like the 9mm Mark 3 I had in service. One thing IS true, though – from more than a couple feet away, Airsoft pistols look exactly like real autoloaders.

    John Dillinger allegedly escaped by fashioning a gun out either wood or a bar of soap and fooled trained police officers; an Airsoft would be indistinguishable in the hands of someone waving it around. That dumb kid basically killed himself.

  154. Rabbit have you seen the video? Car pulls up and SECONDS LATER kid is down. I need more info to prove to me that this kid even understood what was going on.

    He was not IN school. He was outside and from the video I don’t see lots of folks near him in possible danger.

    Like I said Rabbit, if you’re going to assume the cop is justified the minute you hear about an incident, then there’s no use having a conversation.

  155. You don’t now anything about the Airsoft industry, Cocktail Dundee. I know because I’ve dealt manufacturing licensure issues for them. Replication is what it’s all about. Major gun manufacturers sell liv=censes to create many of the Airsoft guns, and for considerable sums dumbass.

  156. The officer ordered Rice to put his hands in the air. Instead he reached for his “toy gun” and was shot on the torso.

    What if the gun had been real? Should the cop have shot him in that case? If not then, when?

  157. Yeah, maybe he should’ve waited for the bullet to leave the barrel before leaping to conclusions.

    Yeah you know what? Maybe he should have. Cops get paid to risk their lives and CONTROL situations. Not to go in guns blazing. What if the kid had a banana? What if it was the wrong kid in the first place? 3 seconds is not enough time to make that call.

    Cops are hired to make every attempt to arrest people, not kill them at the first sign of danger.

    AND help me with Parker’s assessment that the kid was “fucked up”. He was 12 for goodness sake playing with gun replica that his parents should have known looked too realistic. 12 year old boys play with toy guns.

    Damn, reminds me of a recent South Park episode in which Butters pretends to be other people and gets diagnosed with multiple personality disorder.

    A kid is not fucked up because he lives in a neighborhood where a kid can’t be a kid.

  158. Sarah is Marie Curie next to no one. There is not a more ignorant person without a chromosomal defect on the planet. Ask her witch doctor friend…

    Sure there is. Anybody inane, hard up and deviant enough to call you husband on the rebound has to have more than a chromosomal defect. She’s got to have brick for a brain. 😉

    Put that in my liability book when you call the FBI this time, Pfussy, and I’ll double up on my meds.

  159. “No they’re not, and no you haven’t, Fibber McGee. They are plastic and they ARE toys by EVERY stretch of the imagination; but unless you are comparing them to…blah blah blah…”

    😆 Yes they are and yes I have. I’ve directed at least a dozen motion capture shoots using airsofts. The weight was an issue for the performers, dumbass.

    Some are full metal construction, including many of the 1911s on this page –

    http://www.airsplat.com/1911-Airsoft-Pistol.htm

  160. “Cops get paid to risk their lives and CONTROL situations.”

    Rutherford cops are not trained to shoot to control the situation. So your reckoning that they get paid to do that is incorrect.

  161. You know what the inner city black community in every MSA really needs, Rutherford? I decided this tonight after listening to one grievance hustler, race baiter, excuse maker, racialist after another on TV.

    No police; no law enforcement of any kind. Just a jungle – a survival of the fittest. That’s what large parts of Ferguson, MO, really deserve. I really, really, really hope the police say, “Fuck it! We’re not intervening in one predominantly black neighborhood again. Ever! Let them have at it. We’re not just going to stop profiling. We’re not going to stop, period. What do you think those apples, Mr. Holder, you racist POS?”

  162. The weight was an issue for the performers, dumbass.

    LOL. You got to remember, Mr. Parker was holding his own gun in his gnarly hands when he typed that expertise. About 1½” of blue steel, courtesy of Cialis that he stole from the pharmacy before being canned.

  163. “Have a little fun with him, Raji – it’s worth a boo for a boring Tuesday afternoon.”

    It’s Tuesday is it, mate? Well I guess we were wrong about you then. 😆

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    Most Helpful Customer Reviews:
    “The look, weight, and feel of this airsoft gun is spectacularly close to the original. The kick of the blowback is quite strong and required adjustments to my firing stance and grip for the sake of accuracy. The grip safety is another plus and the slide remaining full back and open after the last round is very close to the true operation of a 1911 Colt.”

    http://www.amazon.com/Colt-100th-Anniversary-Airsoft-Pistol/dp/B0055RTHWK/ref=sr_1_4?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1417492062&sr=1-4&keywords=Airsoft+1911

  165. “Yeah you know what? Maybe he should have.” -R

    Rutherford, the shedding apartment cat purring at his finest. Arch that back and yawn at the cable teevee.

    Mmmmmm…..open a luke warm and creamy packet of Whiskas®…ah yes…chicken liver. Your favorite.

    Tell us about that big, mean ol’ world, kitty.

  166. I’ve directed at least a dozen motion capture shoots using airsofts.

    You know what’s sad? I wanted to make a joke about Muffy being a famous film director but I couldn’t think of a single female. I know a lady recently directed an Oscar nominated war movie a couple of years ago. That you, Muffy?

  167. A complete non answer from the Rabbit. You’re off your game tonight.

    Let me try this again and see if I can get a civil response instead of assholery.

    Are police trained to shoot to kill at the slightest provocation?

  168. That is probably the film you’re thinking of Rutherford, Zero Dark Thirty, but better still –

    THE HURT LOCKER

    Won the Oscar for Best Picture AND Best Director for Bigelow.

    Excellent film.

  169. “Are police trained to shoot to kill at the slightest provocation?”

    I know this is directed to rabbit so I’ll just post this illuminating link and repeat something I’d asked earlier – not to answer even, just to mull over.

    http://www.pfoa.co.uk/110/shooting-to-wound

    And for to ponder –

    (Remember the officer ordered Rice to put his hands in the air. Instead he reached for his “toy gun” and was shot on the torso.)

    What if the gun had been real? Should the cop have shot him in that case? If not then, when?

  170. Nah, “R.” My youngest daughter is, though. We were watching some flick from the 40s over Thanksgiving, and she was giving me a run down of all the actor’s names. So I asked, “So this is what six years of college (so far) has gotten me, hey?”

    I just remembered Bigelow because if memory serves, she’s James Cameron the Megolomaniac’s old squeeze, and like Muffy, I liked her films. But unlike Muffy, I liked Zero better than The Hurt Locker. Both were good.

    I’m so rotten to my baby. She told me she got a 98 on her Midterm in BioStat, or something like that. I asked, “What happened to the 2%?” 🙂 None of my women take me seriously anymore. They make me thing I’m in control and walk over me. When they need something, then they butter me up before bursting my bubble.

    “The Christmas tree is in the truck. (baby daughter)”

    “So?”

    “We need you to carry it.”

    “How did you get to the truck.”

    “We tipped a guy. (oldest daughter)”

    “Oh. Well, were is my tip?”

    “You want to eat tonight with us (wife)? Or do you want to eat cereal? That’s what I thought.”

  171. My point is that once the officer makes the “decision” to shoot to stop the threat – he is trained to shoot to kill.

    At that point it’s kill or be killed. I put “decision” in quotes because there isn’t always time enough to think, so the officer relies on his training.

    So I’ve heard.

  172. “I got the gun type wrong. That’s it.”

    No. That’s not it. You failed to mention 3 key things that I listed. Cop saw the gun. Cop gave an order. Suspect went for gun.

    It’s not like “he could have been reaching for a banana” or any shit like that… the cop saw the gun. It doesn’t matter if the kid had time to process the situation. He made a move for the gun. And you don’t know what that cop was able to process as he was rolling up to the scene. You see what the camera saw, you don’t see what the cop saw. Nor are you trained to process a scene the way he is.

    “Are police trained to shoot to kill at the slightest provocation?”

    If a cop sees a gun, you ignore an order, and you reach for that weapon, you’re god damn right (s)he is going to immediately shoot to kill. Period.

    I don’t think anyone is saying it is the kid’s “fault”, Rutherford. I actually contend it was the dispatcher’s fault more than anyone else. It’s a terrible tragedy, is what it is.

    “Yeah you know what? Maybe he should have [waited for the bullet to leave the gun].”

    You cannot be serious with this shit. The cop should have waited for the suspect to fire his weapon before firing on a perceived threat? Really?

    I wonder how many bullets Officer Lawson would have let Adam Lanza fire before firing on him.

  173. “You cannot be serious with this shit. The cop should have waited for the suspect to fire his weapon before firing on a perceived threat? Really?”

    Yes. He is. Disengage.

  174. 😆 Rutherford, that did crack me up! On the other hand, I do need to respond to one of Tex’s statement
    “You’re religiously illiterate, self admitted. No surprise”.
    My formal education in religion probably exceeds yours as in my formative years I found all the religions and their comparisons to be vastly interesting.

  175. Rutherford, that is exactly what the major problem is not just on this forum. Until the rule changes then you better believe “never second guess a cop”

  176. “Rutherford, that is exactly what the major problem is not just on this forum. Until the rule changes then you better believe “never second guess a cop”

    That just isn’t accurate in regards to this forum. Numerous of us have question cops before. Full rants have been devoted towards it.

    But when a gun is pulled on a cop and our blog host makes the comment that the cop gets paid to see if a bullet will come out of the end of it first before he acts, we have a reality problem here of a massive scale.

  177. “Are police trained to shoot to kill at the slightest provocation?”

    Gawd. Just shoot me instead.

    Rutherford, your MSNBC-fueled machinations are a form of retardation that requires a name.

    DR is right. Disengage. Like Sandy Hook it’s a wasted effort. He doesn’t need to know “details” he needs someone at MSNBC to tell him what happened why he should be worked into a rage. The great circle of R.

    Since R cant be bothered with links, I’d promise you that when the Airsoft/cop shooting were reported by his liberal thought machines, it was the manufacturers or some other cartoon he runs on his mind.

    Now it’s the cops.

    Why are you waiting for the race connection? The only reason you’re hearing about this is to shift the failed Ferguson narrative from your liberal heroes. Keep looking for the aggressor, then let your thought leaders associate them with their political opponents, then you do what you always do — fall in line.

    You don’t know what caused the cop to shoot or whether it was justified. You’re just doing your Trayvon dance. . . again.

    You’ll be shocked to know cops get shot by kids in the hood.

    They get shot by old people in the burbs.

    They react to misperceived threats and make mistakes:

    You sit on your ass and try to twist events into media-created social commentary. And because your don’t own your thoughts on these things, you’re always wrong.

    Notice the races in that video?

    Please shut about what a cops job duties entails unless you can state them non-selectively and without trying to create monsters to feed your ignorant and fearful psyche.

  178. “This getting old sucks. The scary part of this, is that the real symptoms only started manifesting themselves the last six months. Gulp”

    Interesting Tex that you should say that because it’s only been the last six months for me. I’ve known my hip was bad for the past 4-5 years but physical therapy and the aid of a hiking stick kept me going. In the past 6 months I have digressed to a walker and not being able to drive.

  179. It is often difficult to discern the good guys from the bad guys especially when our perception is based on appearance and preconceives. When the mainstream media is involved in the deception it gets even foggier. But it is common practice nowadays for protesters to be infiltrated and incited to violence by agent provocateurs. This feeds into the narrative and justifies force by the state.

    Exhibit A:

  180. “You’re religiously illiterate, self admitted. No surprise”. My formal education in religion probably exceeds yours as in my formative years I found all the religions and their comparisons to be vastly interesting.

    Just repeating your own testimony by your own admission, Sister Raji. Sorry about your hip(s). I hope I don’t make it to the point of needing assistance. Right now, the only assistance I need is moaning and bitching about getting old and two Aleve every morning.

    I’ll grant I’m absolutely sure your formal education in comparative religion far exceeds mine as I have none, nor am I interested in acquiring any education from dimwitted hacks in a college setting with an agenda and axe to grind. I find most of those folk to be as fraudulent and unedifying as Obama.

    However, I am absolutely sure in the discussion of Judeo Christian history, philosophy, culture, scripture and character, I would be very comfortable debating your keen mind, and might surprise in that my informal education a worthy opponent of your formal education – with respect to Judaism or Christianity.

    P.S. – You’ll have to accept my apologizes for another dimwitted failure named Pfesser/Parker/Pfraud, whose interruptions our otherwise humorous dialogue have become tedious and require vile insult in return. You are only the latest in a long line of occasional visitors here, who upon discovering nobody here found him likeable, relevant, or particularly appealing, Parker suckles to in the desperate act and hope of making some ally to help combat his enemy; moi. 🙂

  181. More Highlighted Accomplishment for the Legacy of President Barack Hussein Obama!

    Paterson, New Jersey (My9NJ) –

    In Paterson, New Jersey only 19 kids who took the SAT’s are considered college ready. This means that they scored at least a 1500 out of 2400 on the standardized test, and this number is truly shocking considering how large the school district is.

    Yes We Can!

    And the inner city black community is convinced their biggest problem is ‘white privilege’? Pants up! Don’t Loot!

  182. Eric Holder’s tenure represents the beginnings of a post-Constitutional era, where the chief law enforcement officer of the United States serves to dismantle legal traditions. Holder is the first attorney general to whom law seemed to be an option, a suggestion on the way to a progressive future. Most folks, and most lawyers, who didn’t devote daily attention to him might not have noticed the ground shifting during his tenure. But shift it did, and very deliberately.

    Law, like liberty, is a tenuous thing. Failing to understand the sources of domestic tranquility, the sources of your relatively good life, usually also means failing to recognize the threats to that pleasant tranquility. Holder used his time at Justice to do things that corrode the rule of law. Law and liberty are precious things, and Holder did enormous damage to both. ~ J. Christian Adams, upon his resignation from the Justice Dept.

    I dislike Barack Obama as President. I disdain Eric Holder as a man.

  183. Eric Holder is a fucking disgrace to the country and to my profession. If Rutherford weren’t so shortsighted and delusional about the progressive/Obama agenda, he’d be embarrassed. That he so like so many other “dumb voters” frustrates the shit out of me.

  184. Who’s the obstructionist now? Legislatures legislate, not the Executive, who admitted that he changed the law.

    White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Monday that President Barack Obama will block a government budget bill if the GOP denies him the funds needed to provide amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants.

    “Yes,” Earnest said when asked by ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl if Obama would veto a government-wide budget that defunded the amnesty program.

    If Obama blocks the budget to help the illegals, large sections of the federal government would shut down on Dec. 12.

  185. This means that they scored at least a 1500 out of 2400 on the standardized test.

    The test must have changed since I took it in the 70’s. Back then the top score was 1600, not 2400. 800 verbal, 800 math. I scored 680 verbal, 620 math, then considered a 90th percentile score.

  186. “I scored 680 verbal, 620 math, then considered a 90th percentile score.”

    Reminds me of the time early in boot-camp when my company commander made the top ten ASVAB scores step out in front of everyone. He not so elegantly pointed out the obvious over the laughter of 70 dudes: they were the biggest fuck ups in the whole company.

    plot twist: I was one of those fuck ups. (In my defense I was blind, awaiting my Birth Control glasses.)

  187. So Tigre. I got my info on Tamir Rice from online newspapers, CBS and MSNBC in that order. I got the LEAST info from MSNBC so once again your MSNBC dumb blond parrot assessment is pure shit.

    My hair is not on fire over Rice. Clearly the cop was not planning that day to kill a 12 year old. It was a tragedy for all concerned. Since you were not on the scene you’re in no better position than I to assess if the cop could have used more restraint.

    Finally, the ONLY reason I brought up Rice in the first place was to differentiate him from Brown. We are choosing our martyrs very poorly and Rice is a better “symbol” than Brown could ever be.

    The same could be said for the Staten Island dude selling loose cigs. No reason on earth for brother to be dead now.

  188. DR are you aware of any crime Rice committed? Was he 18 or 12? Big difference. One minute he’s goofing around, next he’s being screamed at by a real cop. Are we sure he understood the gravity of what was going on?

    Brown robbed a store which set up the dominoes for everything else. We can’t say the same for Rice.

    Please don’t tell me you consider these equivalent cases.

  189. R, you being cock-sure of anything that involves a shooting is always wrong. And it’s for the same reason, always. It’s because you always consider one source reliable: MSNBC. Your track record speaks for itself. You claiming it’s not true is just delusional. Every shooting, every time. One source. Same selective facts. Same conclusion.

    Now what the fuck do you mean by “symbol.” A symbol of what Mr. “I am no Dumb Blonde?”

  190. “criminal investigation?” How about an indictment? Is Holder going to indict? Is that what you’re saying? Who’s investigating him? Will Obama understand our rage if he’s not indicted? 🙄

  191. Your track record speaks for itself.

    You’re just plain wrong. I withheld judgment on Brown until more facts came in and condemned him as soon as he was revealed to be a thug .,. and I wrote about it.

    I know without the dumb lib to argue with you’re left twiddling your thumbs but you need to find a new schtick.

    And I’d venture to say since you’re not a criminal lawyer you know little more about police shootings than I do.

    You DO need to check yourself when you find yourself so jaded that you immediately justify the killing of a HARMLESS 12 year old kid.

    Now if you wanna tell me Rice is another Trayvon and I’m idealizing him then produce your evidence.

  192. You claiming it’s not true is just delusional.

    No you’re calling me a liar. Let me repeat, MSNBC was my LEAST relied upon source for Rice.

    If you were actually watching MSNBC you’d know they’re still obsessed about Ferguson and the Rice story is incidental.

    By “symbol” I mean symbol of police over-aggression.

  193. You need help Rutherford. You really do.

    Rice is tragic. Nobody is comparing him to Trayvon except you. Nobody is comparing him to Brown except you.

    Rice died tragically because he pulled a fake heater on a cop.

  194. The body count from the war between the Crips and the Bloods in LA alone has killed more black men then the entire Troubles in Northern Ireland during the 20th century.

    Try to wrap your mind around that and then look in the mirror and ask yourself, as a man so desperate for a “symbol” that shows a pattern, why, in holy hell, you are clueless to that fact you effing fraud.

  195. DR I defended Rudy Giuliani in this very thread (or the prior one) for confronting Dyson on black dysfunction.

    And who’s inflaming now? Rice pulled a piece on the cop? Really? He pointed the air gun at the cop? Or did he “reach” for it? Please pick a narrative and stick with it.

    As for symbols, I ask you and Tigre should ANY individual case be symbolic? Or is everything a one-off? I bet you find the Ferguson riots as symbolic of black dysfunction.

  196. I gave you link about the number of mistaken Airsoft shootings. I remember your outrage.

    You need to give a fuck about “police over-aggression” more than when prompted to by your liberal brain trust to prove me wrong, Blondie.

  197. Should any case be a symbol? Huh?

    I find Ferguson a product of black dysfunction and liberal exploitation. Same with Trayvon.

  198. You need to give a fuck about “police over-aggression” more than when prompted to by your liberal brain trust to prove me wrong, Blondie.

    Ohhhh. The problem is I comment on what I see in the news as opposed to being a full time advocate?

    If you want someone who comments on what is in the news, that’s me. If you want someone who devotes time to causes, that’s my old radio co-host Sandi.

  199. I guess my symbol fell flat.

    Back to your symbol….you are right….I read that he reached for it. I should be more careful.

    Dispatch tells cop that there is a 12 year old with a gun. The kid went for the gun.

    Pray for Newtown….

    I swear you liberals are impossible. I would love to see you truely only have to rely on one another in a world held up by your own corrupt and debased reality.

    You people are undeserving of anyone but yourselves.

  200. I find Ferguson a product of black dysfunction and liberal exploitation. Same with Trayvon.

    Sounds symbolic to me. Nice use of the word “product” to pretend you don’t understand my question.

  201. Rutherford, your news is the problem.

    Its one thing to feed off a news source.

    Quite another when you are as detached from the real world as you are. Your news source serves all 5 of your senses and fills a void that, in all honesty, exists for reasons I believe to be beyond your control.

  202. “Sounds symbolic to me. Nice use of the word “product” to pretend you don’t understand my question.”

    Oh, I understand your question, Blondie. That’s the problem.

  203. “I cried for Newtown many times. Put me in the deepest depression I’ve ever been in until my Dad died in January”

    Man….am I ever with you there. Now….with a reminder of Newtown…there is a kid waving a gun near a school. You are the first responder. He goes for the gun.

    You have one second. If you take a bullet..others probably will too. You love your family more then the moon. Go.

  204. As is often the case we are arguing over practically nothing. The only thing we are disagreeing about is whether the cop could have used more restraint. I don’t apply any malignant motives to the cop. I think if anyone is to “blame” it is the dispatcher who neglected to tell the officer that the gun might not be real.

    Did the kid look like a kid or was he big for his age? Was there no way for the cop to remain behind his car under cover and TALK to the kid, even if the kid pulled the “gun” out?

    And why are you all so resistant to any possibility that this could have gone down differently?

  205. You have one second. If you take a bullet..others probably will too. You love your family more then the moon. Go.

    Damn tough call. I might have done exactly what the cop did.

  206. R, you live in a world of imagery — imagery is controlled by your liberal propaganda outlets.

    The sad part is that you’re bummed that Trayvon and Brown ruin that imagery by being thugs. What a downer.

    Keep looking.

  207. “I don’t apply any malignant motives to the cop.”

    Other then the fact he makes a better “symbol” for every aggressive white cop dealing with black people….nah…not at all.

    Did he look like a kid? He has a gun. It doesn’t matter.

    You got one second.

    Go.

  208. By the way…you failed. I needed a response in one second. You can’t even answer the question with three days of news, a video and a Wikipedia article on the event itself.

  209. I am not at all resistant to this going down another way. I am resistant to your need for some kind of symbol to the usual degree of forcing facts to fit your narrative.

  210. “We’ve covered this. I find local news too depressing to watch.”

    You need to man the fuck up or quit pretending you give a crap.

  211. Awesome “symbol” for police aggression. It’s so murky that the black guy on this blog said he might have taken the same action. Yup. A symbol for it all maaaaan.

    If that’s a fucking symbol, I’m the Walrus! I’m the Eggman. Semolina pilchard climbing up the Eiffel Tower.
    Elementary penguin singing Hare Krishna.
    Man you should have seen them kicking Edgar Alan Poe ! Coo can choooo! Smokpa smokpa everybody smokpa!

  212. Think about the percentile math of that Paterson example, Rutherford. 19 kids out of 26,000 are deemed ready for college material in an entire school district. Where the hell is the Obama and Holder outrage over that abysmal heap? Where’s that pile of shit rat hole Dept. of Education’s concerns? Crickets. No where to be found. Silence, swept under the rug.

    There’s not a place on earth besides inner city black America that could claim that magnitude of failure. 0.07% of predominately black and brown children are deemed ready for higher education. And I’ll bet money right now that the allocation of resources per student is higher than the U.S. national average.

    I dare anyone to prove me wrong there’s a bigger waste of money educating on earth. Anywhere…you pick the place on this planet.

    And the Black Caucus wants me to believe the problem with Black America is me? Racist cops? Well, here’s my response to my black detractors in Obama’s Congress. Kiss my lily white ass, you subhuman mongrels. See Ferguson? See St. Louis? You black bastards and bitches ruined. Let that be your legacy before you go to hell. And that gutless white gov. from Missouri can join you. I hope you beat the phony white symbolic guilt out of him.

    You know brother, I kick your rear and bend your ear only because you let these race hustlers off the hook. As an educated black man, groomed by an educated father and mother, your voice should be one of the loudest condemning these black thieves and charlatans destroying the black community. And you could do it. You got the credentials, you got the skin, you got the brains. But you don’t have the motivation. And I don’t get that about you, especially as well as you write and the dedication you’ve shown letting us turds rag on you for six years, never missing a beat.

    What the hell is holding you back lending your voice to helping your own? Damn Rutherford – destiny stares you in the face. And you’re dicking around with marketing, or something. You ever give thought to God set you up, your father set you up, to do something more?

    P.S. The SAT only added another group, writing I believe. The test is still the basically the same as the one you took.

  213. I need to to correct something. The entire Paterson school district is 28,400 – not the 12th Grade and the author didn’t mention that. My fault for not checking.

    Still, that amounts to 0.95% seniors qualified for college admission enrollment in the entire Patterson school district.

  214. “Did the kid look like a kid or was he big for his age? Was there no way for the cop to remain behind his car under cover and TALK to the kid, even if the kid pulled the “gun” out?”

    Rutherford, in that amount of time needed the cop would have already been shot. It’s a sad fact that “little” kids shoot people.

  215. I don’t get your link Rutherford. What that supposed to be some kind of proof of “police over-aggression” or something? If so, “duh.” The cop said he was responding to a call from neighborhood reports that he was making people concerned and there were robberies in the neighborhood. He looked into it. So fucking what?

    From time to time people get held up at gun point and robbed or carjacked in my neighborhood. If the local precincts got calls reports of someone acting unusually and making my peeps nervous, the cops better show up and ask questions like I saw in that video.

    Fuck.

    Keep looking Rutherford. 🙄

    (You really need to ask yourself why you and your liberal intelligentsia need this so bad — some of that “introspection” you’re allergic to)

  216. And they all fall down…

    Sen. Tom Harkin, one of the coauthors of the Affordable Care Act, now thinks Democrats may have been better off not passing it at all and holding out for a better bill.

    The Iowa Democrat who chairs the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, laments the complexity of legislation the Senate passed five years ago.

    He wonders in hindsight whether the law was made overly complicated to satisfy the political concerns of a few Democratic centrists who have since left Congress.

    “We had the power to do it in a way that would have simplified healthcare, made it more efficient and made it less costly and we didn’t do it,” Harkin told The Hill. “So I look back and say we should have either done it the correct way or not done anything at all.

    “What we did is we muddle through and we got a system that is complex, convoluted, needs probably some corrections and still rewards the insurance companies extensively,” he added.

  217. Waste of time, G. MSNBC embraces that shit and holds it out as enlightened. And race relations go down the toilet and guys like Rutherford fell high minded by engaging the discussion.

    Now that we have our “symbol,” I plan to go kill black people with impunity because black lives don’t matter. The Ferguson GJ said so.”

    That 12 year old in Milwaukee never stood a chance. Those cops were out to dust a little black kid. Ferguson gave them permission to do it. Another “symbol” another “martyr.”

  218. how do you deal with these people?

    Like you do with any race baiter, grievance hustler and/or racialist fraud, Gorilla. You do just what Megan Kelly did. You keep throwing inconvenient facts of their own visible failures back in their face and force them to confront them. All they apparently have is Selma. 2/3 of the people alive today were born after Jim Crow.

    The louder these ingrate pimps and pimpettes get, and the more they try to shout you down, the hotter the fire under their ass. The only beef I would have with Megyn, is when one these assholes try to filibuster, you give them about 3 seconds to bloviate and cut the mic on the second warning.

    I see where Jon Steward is now calling the FOX News Network racist. 😈 Desperation in the Dim Party is setting in, folks. For six years, these feckless shills have been throwing up how the days of White Male Republican are over with. What they didn’t count on, is that so many white union workers, single women, poor white fok and the like are now so offended by the behavior of Obama, Holder and the rest of the dregs, whites are dumping the Dim Party by the butt load. The symbolism of a Black President, no matter how grossly unqualified, is played out. Just talked to two more this morning who as late as 2012, were pulling the ‘D’ lever. No matter how you spin it, this country is still 63% white. And the silent majority is growing a little more discontent by the day with obvious ungrateful and racist nature of Black America.

    But maybe most importantly, that Giuliani comment that slapped the bulbous face of faux hustler Michael Eric Dyson must really be ruffling the feathers of these demons. Down here today, the local rag was publishing one of these racist black journalists incredibly miffed that we white bread types keep asking where’s the outrage about black on black crime, where’s the concern about black burned out cities, where’s the beef of black males dropping out of high school at a rate of 48%.

    There’s your answer. Alinsky the Alinskyites. Play their game and play it better. Force them to confront their rabid and rank hypocrisy. Hold them to the same standards.

    Ask me, it’s time to form up with a Congressional White Caucus.

  219. Very troubling. All of it.


    “We’ve covered this. I find local news too depressing to watch.”

    I hope that the Tribune is one of the online newspapers you read at least.

  220. Fun with numbers…

    * Police killings of blacks down 70% in last 50 years
    
    * In 2012, 123 blacks were killed by police with a gun
    
    * In 2012, 326 whites were killed with a gun
    
    * In 2013, blacks committed 5,375 murders
    
    * In 2013, whites committed 4,396 murders
    
    * Whites are 63% of the population blacks are 13%
    
  221. That 12 year old in Milwaukee never stood a chance. Those cops were out to dust a little black kid. Ferguson gave them permission to do it. Another “symbol” another “martyr.”

    You’re truly an ass who enjoys arguing with himself.

  222. g – you may find there is more to your information then you stated.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/02/1348891/-Fox-Distorting-the-Stats-on-Police-Killings-of-Black-People-Again

    …”As I’ve written before that State claiming that 90% of Black people kill Black people (an actually it’s 92%) is completely and totally invalid since that number is only drawn from cases with a single victim and a single offender. And even it were right it would mean the 83% of White People Kill other White People, so it’s not even something to be all that proud about for someone like O’Reilly.”

    “The most accurate numbers I’ve able to find so far, and I admit those are probably still incomplete because their arranged in a Supplemental Homicide Report based on race of first victim and race of oldest offender, are that instead of 92% of Blacks being killed by Blacks that data we have for all homicides including those with multiple victims and multiple offender who each may be a various races is that only 55% of the time is the first victim Black when the oldest offender is also Black. 40% of the time they don’t know who the offenders are. For White people the number 64% of the time the oldest offender is white and 24% of the time they Just don’t know.”

  223. JAL, may I ask a question? Rutherford is fond of reminding us that he finds WND the proverbial nuthouse when somebody around here uses it as referenced link.

    Do you know that many if not most of us could say the same of KKKos and PuffHo? So why would you and perhaps Rutherford think most of us would put any more credence in the fluff you provide and link to, two blatantly obvious hard left sites, anymore than Rutherford would WND? Do I need to remind you it was KKKos and PuffHO that referred to George Zimmerman as “White” Hispanic?

    The numbers you and FOX stated are close to accurate but the real number of Black on Black killing is 93%, with white-white 84%. Those are the published, official statistics of demographic info.

    If what your article implies could be remotely true, let me ask you a question. One black adult was just shot by one white police officer. If it were fact that it actually was a common occurrence for a black adult to be shot white or mixed race police officer, why has it taken this long for a Ferguson, MO, to ignite?

    Did you know that it twice as likely a white person will be killed by police during an act of violent crime as a black person?

    Here’s what your article which I won’t even read considering the illegitimacy of the site, apparently fails to mention. The percentile of black on black, or white on white is not nearly as relevant as the undisputed fact that black Americans, representing approximately 12.5% of the U.S. population, commit more than 52% of the acts of reported violent crime – or about seven times the proportion of violence crime as that committed by whites. If you doubt those statistics, you can prove me wrong by driving your family vehicle to the nearest large city with predominately black population, park the car during the evening, and get out for a stroll – assuming you’re not black.

    So you tell me, no matter how you want to play with statistics, how is Gorilla’s point not relevant? Can you answer that for me? Because every time so far I have asked one of you enabling loons that specific question, you either act like crickets, or slink off to parts unknown.

  224. “YOU ever get stopped by a cop Tigre for walking with your hands in your pockets on a cold day?

    Didn’t think so.”

    Nope even worse dumbass. I once was detained for 2 hours because I was with a group of guys that someone reported looked like they had been the area of a murder that had occurred several days earlier. We were in an ethnic neighborhood. No how much I resent it? Not one fucking bit.

    Ever had violent crime occur in your neighborhood or see someone suspicious walking in your neighborhood?

    Didn’t think so you grievance monger.

  225. Stats are fun, and can say just about anything you want if you can control the context of the numbers. Just take the unemployment rate for example.

    My frustration is that this entire episode has not be guided by the facts, or by evidence. The case was highjacked early on by race hustlers with an agenda, and their efforts have done a disservice to real issues of police brutality. I’m not a fan of cops, and I’ve never been a fan of cops. There is no real argument with the simple fact that violent crime in black communities far exceeds other demographic communities. Now, I happen to believe that socio-economic conditions, dictated and perpetuated by racial politics, maintain these conditions and the continued struggles of the black community. LBJ said it, and every Dem since has worked to enforce it, and that is to make blacks dependent on Dems and keep them dependent on Dems. The Mike Brown/Trayvon Martin saga is just the continuation of that strategy…

    And by the by, I would never, ever accept anything that comes from Kos. Ever. Just saying…

  226. Why isn’t this story being covered?

    “ST. LOUIS – Two members of the New Black Panther Party arrested last week on federal weapons charges were planning to bomb the Gateway Arch, and to kill St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch and Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson, sources tell NewsChannel 5.”

    And terrorism charges? Nope….

    “…but the Justice Department so far has limited its prosecution of the group to an indictment of two members on minor gun charges.

    The soft treatment for activities that normally would have brought federal terrorism charges appears to be part of efforts by Attorney General Eric Holder and the Justice Department to “go soft” on the racist group, according to former Justice official J. Christian Adams.”

    I guess Eric Holder is too busy investigating….other things.

    Let’s let it go, right Rutherford?

  227. “YOU ever get stopped by a cop Tigre for walking with your hands in your pockets on a cold day?”

    I’ve been stopped for running across the street barefoot on a cold winter night. Evidently, I looked…suspicious.

    I’ve been stopped walking in the middle of the night for matching the description of a suspect.

    I’ve been pulled over for matching the description of a rapist.

    And when responding to the question “how many times have you been arrested?” (notice the assumption that I have indeed been arrested before) with “I have never been arrested.” I have received multiple looks of surprise. 1 cop even stated sarcastically “You’ve never been arrested?”

    In all of these encounters, I apply some simple rules….

    So what else you got, Rutherford?

  228. Was in court two days ago watching a preliminary hearing with white defendant on a drug possession charge. Probable cause? He was a well dressed white guy in the ghetto. Didn’t belong there. He was there to buy drugs.

    Yeah, keep buying that “poor guy with his hands in his pocket”. . . bullshit. The fucking video, which itself was being filmed by the cop, showed here was something else going, all of which Blondie Lawson undoubtedly didn’t bother to listen to when he lifted the link from his liberal boo hoo site.

  229. “He was a well dressed white guy in the ghetto”

    Oh fuck yeah. I’ve been slammed against my van and detained for an hour due to being a white guy in a black area early in the morning. Took a long time for me to explain why I had 60 addresses on yellow sticky notes littered through out my shitty van. Reason 1234 why being a roofer sucks.

    If you’re white in a black high crime area late at night you are getting pulled over.

    Everybody knows that shit outside of Belky .

  230. Virtually no national coverage of the planned bombing of the St. Louis Arch and murder of law enforcement officials. So far its just a “local story”. Good thing Rutherford has us or he’d never hear about it. Unfortunately, since Obama doesn’t read the blog, he’ll will have to wait to read about it.

    USA Today has a piece on it. The headline reads “2 men plotted to bomb St. Louis Arch, sources say”.

    Yep, just 2 guys. The words “New Black Panther Party” appear 0 times in the article.

    HUFFPO has a piece on it, too. The headline reads “Men Reportedly Had Plans To Bomb St. Louis Arch And Kill Ferguson’s Police Chief”

    This piece does it least mention the NBPP…in the 3rd and 8th paragraphs.

    No coverage at all on CNN.com. But, in the blurb about the lack of indictment due to choke hold (not THERE’s your martyr, Rutherford), it tells you in the cover blurb its a white cop that got away with it.

  231. A few uncomfortable observations for the Brown family that I assume the MSM and the Congressional Black Caucus don’t want advertised. Truth be known, reads like Michael Brown never had a chance. Why is the media not reporting this, and where are Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Dyson, and Dixon in addressing the melt down of black families, I wonder?

    • Lesley McSpadden, Michael Brown’s mom, never married his dad

    • Louis Head is Leslie McSpadden’s boyfriend – contrary to news reports, they are not married.

    • Michael Brown never lived with them, and in fact was raised by his grandmother, Pearlie Norton.

    • Lesley & Louis had Pearlie Norton beaten up for Pearlie selling T-shirts to memorialize Michael. Lesley felt “entitled” to the proceeds.

    • Apparently, Michael Brown only became important to Lesley & Louis after he was dead, as according to Norton, there was little interaction between the two.

  232. * In 2012, 123 blacks were killed by police with a gun.

    I don’t remember whether it was a mayor or governor who was talking but he said we don’t have accurate stats on police shootings partly because locals don’t report properly to the FBI database.

    So sorry G. Your stats are crap.

  233. The fucking video, which itself was being filmed by the cop, showed here was something else going,

    Oh DO go on. What did I miss?

    I did find it interesting that the cop started filming on his smartphone too. More power to him. Let’s get it ALL on tape.

  234. Did it occur to you that the stories don’t mention the NBPP because as an organization, the NBPP is a joke? Why is it always two guys?

    NBPP is irrelevant. Bombing plot regardless of suspects should be treated as terrorism. I can’t defend Holders justice dept on that.

  235. “Did it occur to you that the stories don’t mention the NBPP because as an organization, the NBPP is a joke?”

    No….it doesn’t. The organization should be, and usually is mentioned.

    Klan is a joke too. I’d be pissed if they were omitted in a news story about plot to blow up the St Louis Arch.

    Dude….you are so dishonest.

    Hollow.

  236. No, Rutherford, that did not occur to me.

    Did it occur to you that the stories don’t mention it because it doesn’t fit their agenda of running cover for the left?

    Did it occur to you that if it were some piddly-assed tea party group both of those national outlets would have made mention of it?

  237. “Oh DO go on. What did I miss?”

    Oh, do tell me. What am I trying to explain away? Racism? Or another daily event in the world of police response to calls of suspicious activity/investigation.

    Keep looking.

  238. Gathered from several sources and provided to me, “R”. I did confirm some of them. And Snopes which I couldn’t find this afternoon says this evening false. But in reading through the Snopes refute, they appear mostly true. Smoking Gun police report say otherwise. I find much of Snopes pure bullshit, as much of their refute not referenced either.

    Louie Burning Bitch and McSpadden were married in July 2014 this year…

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