I Could Play the Race Card but …

Prologue

You will notice, effective today, the blog has a new name and a new look. Everything else will stay essentially the same but in keeping with the new tag line “Where no one is barred and everyone is grilled” I wanted to give a shout out to roughly a dozen folks who are “regulars” here. They make the comments section of the blog entertaining and sometimes downright frightening. The simple truth is no matter what I write in the essays, the comments section is where the action is. Unlike Jonathan Capehart (who I mention below) who gets hundreds of comments from hundreds of people and has little time to engage, I get hundreds of comments from a dozen people and I do my best to jump “into the fray” (the title of an old blog by the person who inspired the new title of this blog). The comments section has turned this “little slice of heaven”, to quote another regular, into more of a community than a blog. So every now and then, I won’t even write an essay. I’ll just throw a bit of red meat out there and let the assembled have at it. Without further ado, let’s open the bar for business. Drinks are on me.

Obama is Just Another Black Man

The steady stream of disturbing revelations about the Secret Service, culminating in the resignation of the department’s director, got me to thinking. Maybe the old saw from the liberal media and civil rights advocates about the relative worth of a black man being less than that of a white applied to the President himself? It wasn’t the first time this crossed my mind. I was flabbergasted when it was revealed years ago that the Secret Service were cavorting with prostitutes when they should have had their mind on protecting Barack Obama. The revelations of the past couple of weeks made me revisit my theory. A man shoots at the White House (and hits) and the SS bungles it. An armed man with a criminal record gets on the elevator with Obama and the SS bungles it. A man jumps the fence and gets deep into the White House — and the SS not only bungles it but lies about it. One has to wonder, maybe they really don’t take defending this man all that seriously?

The absence of such discussion in the media surprised me. The incompetence of the department was front and center in every report but just about no one broached race. That ended this week with a discussion of the matter on Bill Maher’s HBO forum and in an article by the Washington Post’s Jonathan Capehart. Maher’s panel discussion focused on the added threat this President faces based on race. Capehart’s piece covered similar ground but went that extra step of wondering aloud if the SS was letting Obama come in harm’s way by commission, not omission. Capehart concluded that such doubt in the agency should not be contemplated because the Secret Service is not protecting Obama, they are protecting the Presidency and the very stability of our government.

I tend to agree with Capehart but an even more common sense reason dawned on me to abandon my concerns about racially motivated ambivalence on the part of the agency. My mind flashed back to December 14, 2008 when George W. Bush shared the podium with the Prime Minister of Iraq. A disgruntled journalist threw his shoe at Bush and the Secret Service rushed in front of the President to protect him and usher him to safety until the situation could be evaluated. Ehhh no, that is not how it happened. Bush dodged the shoe without a single eyelash twitch from the Secret Service and then ANOTHER shoe was thrown. After two shoes, we finally saw what appeared to be agents rush into the room behind Bush. Bush was still not escorted to safety pending an evaluation of the scene. I remember at the time being amazed at the incompetence of his security detail.

Contemplating this, I took my race card and placed it back in my breast pocket. There is no racial element to this latest round of dangerous negligence. It’s another chapter in a long gradual decline. This Keystone Kops impersonation is just the latest example of the degradation of standards in this country. It seems all of our institutions are failing. I don’t know what it will take to turn it around.

What do you think? The bar is open.

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241 thoughts on “I Could Play the Race Card but …

  1. While I am not offering anything to refute what you wrote, the portion about the SS protecting the presidency, not the president, got me thinking….

    The Praetorian Guard was created to protect the Roman emperor. But sometimes they were more concerned with protecting the institution of the emperor, rather than the man…and they would kill a bad emperor. And Obama’s pretty damn bad.

    Think about it….

  2. Nice look, Mr. “R.” Going to take some getting used to for moi. For a second or two, I thought you’d been hacked. WTH? LOL

    As to Huck’s comment, though I agree with the content, we couldn’t be so lucky.

    However, speaking as a lily white, radical fundie, even if I were a crazed jihadist look for Obama’s head on a platter, suffice to say there is one thing that would assure the feckless Obama’s survival as Failure in Chief until Jan 2017.

    Joe Biden. 😈 I once said we couldn’t do worse than Jimmy Carter. I was wrong. And Joe Biden would be even worse than the failure currently residing in the White House.

  3. I like the format. I wish you could recruit more regulars. Then, we would have larger pools of blood in the floor.

    I agree with Huck. it is possible, but the time is not right. I don’t think we have reached the mind set of the Praetorian Guard….yet.

  4. Damn, this font is massive.

    It’s a little scary to think of just how incompetent this entire federal government has gotten. And that’s another reason I think anyone insane who wants more federal government. Why don’t you Obama lackeys just take your hard earned money and light it on fire? At least then you could get a little heat.

    From the previous thread, this is why I so vocally disagree with Alfie. Alfie has far more faith in the institute of American government than I do. I am assuming the CDC is equally and grossly incompetent – the military being the exception and we pay out the wazoo for that competence (which like electricity for my air conditioning in August – a bill I happily pay without complaint).

  5. Well, well, well… vive la différence! You sure spruced up the place, Rutherford. I’ll need to get accustomed. It’s like when the wife rearranges the furniture. Hope I don’t stub my toe when I get up to hit the head. 😆 I’ll miss the comment numbers, but then I’m used to seeing them on my pc.

    So you think the ss is better than the other agencies of this government? Sure, there are noble players, but all have been infiltrated. None are without corruption. The secret service assisted in JFK’s murder.

    I don’t see the military necessarily as competent. Sure, it can do certain things very competently. But on the whole, its very inefficient and cumbersome. As a whole, the mic isn’t competent. It’s extremely dependent. The biggest polluter on the planet doesn’t fit my ideal for competent. The biggest spender of our tax dollar doesn’t provide the best roi. Do they have good people? Sure. But they don’t run things. They merely follow orders. They need a truly noble cause. Fighting terrorism is a farce. It’s like a snipe hunt. What is their noble cause? Ahhh… defend that constitution. How’s that working out?

  6. Kelly is a very clean design. A pleasant look and feel. If you would share, I would like to know the thought process that led to changing everything.

    The Secret Service – and anybody who’s been in a barfight – discovered long ago that, once an assailant has acted, it is nearly impossible to stop him. Think JFK. No matter how vigilant you are, it is very hard to overcome the element of surprise and respond effectively. Whoever gets the first lick in usually wins.

    Having said that, rumours are that the Obamas treat their service personnel with the same disdain as did the Clintons, and I doubt the SS morale is very high. It is said that Bush, perhaps because he had been in the military – or perhaps because he was a more principled individual – was truly loved by those people who served him directly. Had nothing to do with skin color (god, that again?) and everything to do with the normal human reaction to being treated well or ill.

  7. No way man. The SS was infiltrated by the Klan 60 years ago and laid dormant until the second term of the first black president’s term.

    I can’t believe this is even a topic of conversation.

    I like the font. Very phone friendly. Although comment numbers would be nice.

  8. 5 minutes ago my brother somehow managed to spook 20 does walking in a single file line.

    I’m surprised I didn’t get fucking trampled as I’m on the ground in a pop up 250 yards down. Shit was crashing everywhere.

    All in all good news. My late winter recon before I bought this backwoods dump was correct. There are numerous major deer trails going through my measly 8 acres.

    I’m surrounded by massive hunting camps here and I sensed the jealousy after they learned I bought this property. Bikers, maybe 1%ers, own a huge deer camp next to me. We made a sort of peace treaty built on respect yesterday as they have right of passage on my land via an easement. I could tell they want my land bad.

    Hunters are a territorial, suspicious lot of people.

    I’m like the little state of Israel here in the hunting universe. These people all have hundreds of acres but the deer role through Rabbitstan, baby!

    Now I need to get these tree stands up.

    I also have a bear issue here. Its reported that he wanders on my land. Obviously, black bears don’t fuck with people for the most part, but I was scared last night when I was here all by my self. Holstered my 454 just for piece of mind. I was fucking spooked like I said I would be!

    Its easy to talk shit ….I need to bring home some food for the winter this year. My boys eat like hogs.

  9. Rutherford, I like the new format. Your blog reminds me of “Cheers” 🙂

    The only thing I miss is the sidebar in the last format. Strolling through all the comments to get to the last one will be tedious with out the sidebar showing the most recent comments.

    As to Tex’s comment on the font, that’s the reason I like a Kindle. Now I don’t have to squint.

    Regarding the recent actions of the SS, does anyone know if the SS is a private independent contractor like everything else in government?

    Whoops, I just found the sidebar only it’s not a sidebar, so scroll on down!

    DR, It sounds like you know what you are doing. I let a few locals hunt my property to cut the population down and to keep the poachers away. The bears are a big problem this year. One local fount the female bear in the back of his pick-up and the male bear on his deck eyeing the female.

  10. Good luck, rabbit. If I had known a bear was nearby, I would have been nervous too.

    The first message board I visited was one for Jeanane Garafalo. It was moderated, and I eventually became a moderator, but for a time, it was so verbally violent, it was shut down and threats were reported to the FBI. Later, we organized the site into a virtual bar with a pool table, and outside garden. We had virtual parties where we drank ourselves into stupors. It was an international cast with people from Denmark, Ireland, Australia, Canada, and Brazil.We also wrote group fiction, and someone posted the script of a play he had written. Four of the people sent wedding gifts to our daughter and husband when they married. Some of us saw each other in person.

    Its all gone, now, but this tavern reference helps me remember the good times.

  11. Here’s an analogy for you R. Two weeks ago I watched the football game between FSU and Clemson. That was the game during which QB Jameis Winston, Heisman trophy winner and alleged sexual assault perpetrator, was suspended for obscene remarks he made previously. In case you’ve been living in a cave and don’t know this, Winston is black, as is most of the team. Winston’s replacement for the game was Sean Maguire, who is white. Maguire was sacked 5 times in the first half. So, yes, he held onto the ball too long. He was hesitant and unsure of himself. But after the 5th sack, I really started wondering if he was getting the protection he needed. Whether or not the team was, in its way, showing “solidarity” with Winston.
    I would like to have been a fly on the wall during the halftime chat in the locker room, because the team came out on fire, and won. I imagine the talk by the coaches being something along the lines of, if the QB (the President) fails, then the team (the country) fails with him, and so do you.
    So do I think FSU’s offense and the Secret Service failed on purpose? Probably not. I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I think there may have been an unconscious behavior going on…like I’ll do my job, but I’m not going to work that hard at it.

  12. One of the men on the Garafalo site was a newspaper writer. A former boss made him the editor of a farmers almanac. He asked some of his site friends to contribute, My job was to guess the national weather for a year. I told him I was not a forecaster. He replied “It doesn’t matter. I’m not paying you.” Several people, including the formerly prettiest cheerleader in our high school class read the almanac and were impressed. Actually, my guess were pretty good.

  13. Fakename2 may be right, or not. We have no way to know right now. However, the Obama’s allegedly treat their ss guards like guano. With human nature’s being what it is, motivation might be weakened.

  14. “What’s Wrong With The US Secret Service?” posted in Hot Air suggests that poor leadership and complacency has existed for a number of years. Sex and drinking scandals were warnings the leadership ignored. Marc Ambinder believes too many of the Secret Service administrators are though they were good agents incapable of running the SS and should be retired.

  15. You make an excellent point, James. Do you remember a very old concept called “The Peter Principle”? The idea is that people are promoted until they reach their level of incompetence. I thought of it immediately when I heard that the now-former Secret Service head had been with the agency for 32 years. Of course, it could also be that so were her many predecessors and it was just too screwed up to fix by the time she got there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

  16. I should mention the reason the font looks so massive to me is my arcane nature of still preferring my 23″ flat screen and a real keyboard to a phone – another reason I think the world has gone completely mad. It’s like reading a poster. It would take me six years to type one of my windy comments on a droid, and I”ll assume my kids I-phones would be the same. I will try this from my wife’s I-Pad sometime. We’ve got more technological junk sitting around this house gathering dust than we know what to do with – it’s my wife’s fault. We’ve run out of Christmas ideas. LOL

    I think I like the look, Rutherford. Perhaps there is a graphic design job waiting for you in the wings. 😉

  17. Not for nothing but the Secret Service has done its job a number of times during the Obama years.
    As for the headline example of Secret Service screwup I think it kind of sucks for them that the other entities tasked with the circles around the WH failed yet they get the flogging.

  18. Parker makes a good point about Bush. A great example is the episode in Chile where Chilean security were feeling their oats and denied POTUS guard from entering APEC Summit. Bush pushed through the crowd grabbed lead agent and pulled him through the Chilean security crowd.Then he went on and shook hands with folks like nothing happened. b-a-l-l-s-y

  19. Yeah we’re gonna whack a mental patient who heads a failing state lol.
    Pools I invite you to actually look into the false flag “Fuck you Gringo” politics of Cristina. She is wagging the dog for her own good. She is all about “high crime,shitty economy? its not my fault”
    Viva Falklands!

  20. On the Secret Service front if I’m not mistaken the POTUS body guard thing isn’t the only thing they do. Hiring from within as it were could get you a great administrator with a history of battling counterfeiting. That doesn’t get you an A Team persona for folks who are supposed to be willing to die.
    If I were to offer a more professional observation I would say that the post 9/11 environment actually has harmed a number of agencies.

  21. On that note, what is your opinion, Alfie, about the formation of the Homeland Security Department? One of the conclusions after 9/11 was that various agencies were not communicating with one another, and that part of that was due to inter-agency rivalry. So the solution is to merge them into one giant, unwieldy, umbrella department? Great. Let’s take a bunch of good-sized yachts, mash them together, and make an ocean liner, which can’t turn any faster than the Titanic did. Did they think that would end the communication failures and the rivalry? That does not work in the corporate world, which is the only one I can speak of with any confidence, but I can’t imagine it would work any better in government. Even in huge corporations (IBM, ATT, Apple, Microsoft), there is an overall structure but it works because there are little “cells” out there working independently and contributing to the life of the overall organism.

  22. FN2 I have a lot of answer for the question at hand. For the sake of brevity and sanity I’ll bullet point you a few.
    *DHS was a good idea on paper that went real bad in real life.
    *The interagency rivalry instill real and I’d say it’s worse. All levels of government are striving to show their value regards their line on the budget. This is literally a deadly issue and we’ve seen examples of it.
    *In the era of Big Data the communication and streamlining of government available is fantastic. Bureaucratic leviathans don’t dig that notion.

  23. One of the things I hope everyone can agree on here from experience of work and such, is that as an entity grows in scope, the level of communication and coordination becomes inversely proportional, finally to the point of unmanageable.

    I’m becoming a BIG proponent of Federalism. It’s time to make the bureaucracy a more manageable size.

  24. Kelly is a very clean design. A pleasant look and feel. If you would share, I would like to know the thought process that led to changing everything.

    7 is an odd anniversary to make a change but the nature of the blog has changed — much more a discussion forum than a blog. The name change came first and then I figured while I was at it, I’d give a facelift too.

    I’m not happy with all the “extras” being at the bottom of the page but I do like the essays dominating the page. And Tex the big-ass font is for us old geezers who can’t see anymore. 🙂

  25. I am so glad to be rid of the comment numbers. I do 99% of my blog work on the phone and I don’t see comment numbers. Was driving me crazy when you guys used them.

  26. I can’t believe this is even a topic of conversation.

    I think my thought process made it clear why it’s a topic. Racial paranoia runs rampant in this country. Until you calm the fuck down and think back further than 2009, it’s a very easy conclusion to come to.

  27. .like I’ll do my job, but I’m not going to work that hard at it.

    Yup that’s why I used the phrase “racially motivated ambivalence”. I don’t think there is a strategy to get the POTUS killed. That’s Poolman territory. What crossed my mind was simply a laziness born of disrespect.

    But if it is true that the Obama’s treat their security detail like shit, maybe that disrespect is understandable.

  28. I think I like the look, Rutherford. Perhaps there is a graphic design job waiting for you in the wings.

    I can only take credit for making a choice among many WordPress canned layouts. No design work on my part at all. I still need to rearrange the extras at the bottom into 3 columns. I’ll get around to it eventually.

  29. it’s a very easy conclusion to come to.

    It’s ironic how differently two people see the universe…I had a “debate” the other day with an atheist who said he saw no evidence of a Creator. I told him as I have told you, “R”, I can’t get away from seeing the evidence there is a God in everything we see.

    I can say the same here. That thought of ‘racial motivation’ in protecting Obama never even occurred to me until you mentioned it. In fact, I’d go a step further and say as a white guy, the last thing this country needs is its only half black President to have an attempt at assassination.

    I think the best answer is the most obvious. Secret Service dropped their guard and dropped the ball.

    P.S. – if you like history, you might like the latest O’Reilly book on Patton. It’s amazing to me all these stalwarts of history (Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Churchill) had a really greasy side to them – Eisenhower first and foremost a politician and sometimes philanderer who never saw combat, Roosevelt a lifetime philanderer and too often of weak character and cowardice, Churchill embroiled in bitterness at being screwed by Eisenhower & Roosevelt to pander to Stalin for Russia).

    The only one that comes out as normal is the prudish Truman. Go figure…Patton could have saved America 50 years of cold war had they listened to him.

  30. It’s funny Tex that I just finished a 14 hour documentary on the Roosevelt’s and I came away respecting them, warts and all. But it is abundantly clear that FDR was flawed. Philanderer is not quite the word. FDR was no Kennedy. He had two or three mistresses to whom he was devoted. They were more than fuck-buddies. They were confidants.

  31. The U.S. Park police is independent. The FPS is all over the place. The Uniformed Secret SErvice formerly known as EPS is on the grounds and roof. Then there is the actual MIB types most notably inside the building

  32. I imagine the SS can pull rank but the USPP actually come under the Interior Dept not DHS. FPS is DHS but won’t come on the grounds unless “invited”

  33. Thinking race has something to do with SS or any other entities’ protection of Obama is hilarious.

    You could just as easily accuse them of failing the protection of any president due to party affiliation.

    The more interesting part of the story that requires no unfounded speculation is why it took so long for the false story to be corrected. It is certainly more revealing of the political culture than looking to support some agenda-driven social commentary.

  34. Tigre one persisting theme is that lower level SS workers are afraid to report deficiencies. The fence jumper episode has prompted unprecedented leaks to the press.

  35. I’m at an all-afternoon gymnastics family get together. I’d rather be a deer in Rabbit’s crosshairs right now. I hate this social shit.

    LOL! I’m glad I’m through that phase – that is one time I wish I had boys. Basketball and cross country weren’t so bad, but the damn ballet, chorus and plays were damn near insufferable – and we never, ever missed a one with my wife dragging me by the hair to the car. If I never see the Nutcracker again, it will be too soon. Nine years, I sat through those.

    Wait until you have to sit through all the graduations, Rutherford. You’ll put a gun to your temple. I’ve still got two to go. My oldest daughter’s graduation at A&M took 3½ hours – I kid you not. And she was at the very back of the pack. Worse, it’s the one time this white trash could beam like a proud man as my eldest daughter was nominated for about every award an individual could receive – the only problem was, the Texas A&M quarterback now playing in the NFL was right in front of her and as she was being “rewarded”, the audience was still screaming for Mr. Studly. Sigh. I never even heard her name and had to pee like race horse. 😡

    My one chance at recognition for being a part of something marvelous and I was foiled once again. 😈 Fate.

  36. So far I’ve only been to preschool “graduation” and it was a short cute affair.

    The only thing most of us have in common is gymnastics. Once that topic runs dry the torture sets in.

  37. I just glanced at the comments section of an ooooold post “88 Years of Hate” and I’m struck by the diversity of the audience. Would love to get more people in here.

  38. R, perhaps I’m missing your point, but the upper echelons knew damn good and well what happened. I am certain it was videotape and immediate interviews/reports. I am also certain SS operates like every other Fed dept., particularly at the head. I pity the fool that’s only now questioning it.

  39. Fakename2, I have read the Peter Principle. It could explain something.

    We have had a long day. Our church closed, and was deconsecrated. A pot luck dinner followed, and we did business and visited until a few minutes ago. Someone gave us a large box of home grown potatoes. Originally, nothing was to leave the church but the supt decided anyone could remove loose objects We returned and took a ratty old picture of Jesus which was one of my first memories of the church. We had paid for the organ my wife played for over thirty years, but the church owns it. We came home, and my wife took the paintings out of the car and left them on top. A heavy shower made Jesus wet.

    Our daughter called to say our grand daughter is sick and listless. Her face is red from crying.

    I don’t think personalities here have much to do with a lack of diversity. This site is like Kerli’s home land or my home town. “I come from a land called secret
    Estonia, and nobody knows where its at.” “Nobody” knows where this blog is “at” either. We need to advertise.

  40. Surely you understand why you don’t have more diversity?

    LOL FN, Tex was here back then too. 🙂

    I’m afraid the conservatives here may be right that 6 years into the Obama presidency, liberals just don’t want to put up the good fight.

    “88 Years of Hate” was published in 2009 when Obama supporters were giddy and the Tea Party was an easy target. Now, Obama has disappointed in many ways and thanks to folks like Matt Kibbe, the Tea Party sounds a bit saner.

  41. Tigre my comment earlier was mainly prompted by the dude using the WH as target practice. Agents who were sure shots were being fired were afraid to push the matter when told by superiors to stand down (“just some local gangbangers — nothing to see here”).

  42. “Until you calm the fuck down and think back further than 2009, it’s a very easy conclusion to come to.”-R

    You are adorable when you act macho.

    It would be fun to reward you with a treat, maybe a little piece of short bread or some kibble or something for that funny stuff in real life.

  43. Been doing some homework on the Nov. 2011 shots fired at White House. I find some of the story to be damning towards the Secret Service for sure. I do find that some of the story seems to forget important points that the reports actually present. I find these points afford the Secret Service some leeway.
    For example the “stand down order” gets a lot of play completely discounting the string of events unfolding in real time. The perimeter guard off property per a thoroughly permissible act. The snipers searching the perimeter as one would expect. The Portico guard upping her arms. Post the stand down order USPP on the job at the scene of the escaping cars accident. I would say that contrary to the reporting that the SS was failing the USPP were in fact initiating an investigation and the SS were insisting .
    Yeah I get the SS failed to,follow up on scene suspicions that night but I don’t know….
    Closing out I will say that the SS clearly has cultural issues but have been otherwise very busy during the Obama tenure.

  44. “Would love to get more people in here.”

    Me, too. Have you given any consideration vis å vis the means for doing so? And if so, would you share your personal thoughts on the matter? Quite frankly, I would like to see how the blog looks from its owner’s perspective.

  45. I didn’t even know the WH had been used for target practice. Wasn’t that back in 2011? Was it national news and I missed it?

    P.S. – I read today in the Lib rag Tulsa World, that Obama has had five times as many death threats as any previous President. That’s crap. Hell, there was a national outcry for George Bush Jr.’s death daily, including a movie with him being assassinated. Reminds me of that statistic 1 in 5 college woman has experienced sexual assault. Guaranteed it’s been like women like Flake.

  46. LOL Hard to see on my mobile phone. Was that a hammer and sickle?

    Putting aside the insult to FN even I find that 20% figure hard to fathom. I suspect the definition of sexual assault may be overly inclusive.

  47. Tex is right about the number of attempts on Obama’s life v. Bush’s and you are right to find the 20% figure hard to swallow because it is also wrong. The left is also attempting to propagate another myth–that Obama faces more serious problems than Bush or Regan did. Obama may have to deal with an awful situation now, but our difficulties are mainly of his own making.

  48. Paul Revere Dick was born in Harvard, Nebraska and after he grew up, he moved to Idaho to start a restaurant. He met Mark Lindsey, and they started a band. They sang one of the first anti-drug songs of the sixties. We were in a Browning, Montana restaurant one night. Indians there played Indian Reservation repeatedly as we ate our meal. The song struck a chord with the Indians.

  49. Rutherford, Can you change where “recent comments” is located? Right now I have to scroll through the entire comments section to get that information. When the comment section reaches the 3-4 hundred number scrolling through will be a pain in the butt! You are probably set up to receive notification of new comments. New visitors will find it hard to navigate including those of us not set up for new comments.

  50. Julie Borowski wrote “Obamacare’s War on Women” Women are beginning to realize they have been had. One of the main arguments opponents of women’s sufferage was that they as a group were too emotional to properly judge political issues. I think liberals believe it is true, and they play women like violins with lies and flattery. It has worked many times.However, women are smart. A poll cited in the article shows 52% of women questioned oppose Obamacare. One of their latest attempts is the so called war on women. It is so threadbare more people now see through it.

    Obama has been an emotional ride for many people, almost like a drug, especially for women, but it is now time to get off.

    “Girl you thought you found the answer
    on that magic carpet ride last night
    But when you wake up in the mornin’
    The world still gets you uptight
    Well, there’s nothin’ you ain’t tried
    to fill the emptiness inside
    When you get back down , girl
    Still ain’t feelin’ right,,
    Well, you think you’re gonna find yourself
    A little piece of paradise
    But it ain’t happened yet, so girl you better think
    twice.”

    Paul Revere and the Raiders sang one of sixties first anti-drug songs which also applies to the emotional basket cases who swooned and fainted at the sight of the light master years ago.

  51. “The Lament of the Cherokee People” by Paul Revere and the Raiders — one of my all time fav songs. An odd memory trick – my childhood memory of the song mistakenly has it with many verses but it had only two.

  52. I’m sorry, James. I can’t contain myself. I just can’t let it go. . .

    Your video of the Native American Yanni is just awful. Is that some kind of payback for what happened to his people?

    If so, we are definitely even. 😆

  53. Whoa. I hear this place looks good on a phone but this font is making it look more like the activities room at the old folks home. Oh, I see that has been mentioned at comment #…oh. OK. Two thumbs down for the scrapped comment numbers.

    Well, the essays certainly dominate the page as intended, but the linear layout means lots of scrolling, which can get tedious. Oh Raji mentioned that at…earlier. Well, quite possibly the worst part about that scrolling is that the new layout causes the videos take up the entire screen and often at poor resolution. Now if the video holds on a still of Sarah Palin getting whatever that Bashir nutbar wanted to see happen to her, then that’s one thing but WTH is Tiny Tim doing at a keyboard? He played the ukelele. Even better is the gigantic exclamation point when the source video fails to load at all. Two thumbs way down.

    One solution if I’m not mistaken to preserving the new layout while not wearing out our tolerance for excessive scrolling and that is to reverse the comment order, which I’ve been hoping to see for some time, but then I’m the gal that reaches all the way back into the cooler for the freshest carton of milk. Another useful change would be to limit the comment page before the lateral click is required to go back more than a certain number of comments. But nothing’s going to improve the location of the comments except a change in location.

    “Surely you understand why you don’t have more diversity?” -FN

    “I’m afraid the conservatives here may be right that 6 years into the Obama presidency, liberals just don’t want to put up the good fight.” -RL

    I expect the reasons for this are as varied as the commenters themselves but I think there are a great many liberals for whom the winner of America’s Celebrity President awakened an interest in politicking only to find out that it’s unpleasant business and their winner was lipsincing.

  54. Here’s the race card that trumps yours, Rutherford…

    It took only one wrong vote to teach a freshman Democrat from Texas how sensitive, and even wrathful, the Jewish community can be when it comes to Israel.

    Enlightment or coercion?

    Israel, which receives more than $3.6 billion per year in various forms of aid from Washington, is already the single largest recipient of American largesse. But the August 1 House vote appropriating $225 million to Israel above and beyond its usual aid was meant to allow the Jewish state to restock on Iron Dome interceptors that had proved effective in countering Hamas rocket attacks into the country.

    Congressional leaders squeezed the vote into the legislative schedule just as members were packing up to leave for their summer recess. The overwhelming support of 395 representatives with only eight voting against was not unusual for a pro-Israel piece of legislation, especially one that deals with military assistance at a time of war.

  55. I’m with BIC on throwing the race card away. Obama’s not doing his job well and as goes the leader so goes the nation. Race has nothing to do with it.

  56. Rutherford did you really suggest late in the last thread that people to put away their religious intolerance or did I imagine that?

  57. The banner color would be good for adirondack chairs.

    Rutherford does WP offer a spellcheck at this end? (lipsYncing)

  58. Yes, Rutherford, this is Omaha’s second Ebola patient. His presence was the main subject of debate on local talk shows. Some comments bordered on paranoia. The general consensus is the government doesn’t know what it is doing, and they are lying to us. There is also pride that Omaha is one of the coolest cities in the nation.

    The previous patient said he and his family had never been treated more kindly here. The wonderful Midwest hospitality has converted him. He is now a Nebraska football fan. “Go Big Red!!”said he.

    Today, the host noted that the patient and medics with him were wearing hazmet suits as they left the plane and walked through the air port. Several men in tee shirts stood nearby. “Why?” the host asked. He also wants to know why the camera man got sick. Medical workers are more understandable,

    Another topic is more important today. Nebraska lost to Michigan, and people want to know what Bo Pelini can do about it.

    Ha Ha El Tigre. Brule has a wide following in the Plains and Midwest. I have talked to them.They are nice people. However, when we watched them play at Mt Rushmore, I thought exactly as you did. Was this their revenge?

    The walk of flags has a wonderful view of Mt. Rushmore and it is intended to portray the monument as a solomn and pristine place.Brule turned it into a strip mall. Little portable shops blocked the view with everything from Indian bread, clothing, cds to books and more. I told my wife the Lakota Sioux were getting their final revenge with a temporary eye sore designed to separate as much money from blacks, browns, and whites as possible.

    Granted, they are honest people who work very hard to make a living, but damn.

  59. Raji, sorry but this layout puts all extras like “recent comments” at the bottom. Never even occurred to me that folks used that to skip down. If anyone here can think of a way to shorten the trip to the last comment, please post. I imagine this is a particular nuisance on a mobile.

  60. One solution if I’m not mistaken to preserving the new layout while not wearing out our tolerance for excessive scrolling and that is to reverse the comment order, which I’ve been hoping to see for some time, but then I’m the gal that reaches all the way back into the cooler for the freshest carton of milk. Another useful change would be to limit the comment page before the lateral click is required to go back more than a certain number of comments.

    Great ideas Muffy. I’ll try to implement both. For the second one, are you saying to limit number of comments per “page”?

  61. OK gang, per Muffy’s request I’ve implemented a couple of ideas that may make the site more user-friendly. Most recent comments come first an I’ve got only 20 comments per page so if you’ve missed some of the discussion, you’ll have to click “older comments” to see them. This should help Raji too. Still no comment numbers — good for me, bad for some of you. So to make up for it, I’ve enabled WordPress “markdown” language in the comments section. This is the opposite of “markup” language — instead of typing html to achieve text effects, all you have to do is type certain strings. I’m gonna test it below and if it works, I’ll post the link for the markdown shortcuts in the next comment.

    Italics
    Bold
    A [link to YouTube] (http://youtube.com)

    This should be blockquoted.

    OK let’s see if this works.

  62. The link didn’t work as expected … gonna try it again [here] (http://youtube.com “”). I’m also gonna do another test of blockquote so bear with me.

    Just going to type random letters to see how to get a blockquote with some paragraphs. MAMAMAMAMAMAMAMMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    That should end the blockquote but it had no newline feeds. Now lets’ skip a line.

    Try it first this way.
    Is the block quote still in effect? No? How ’bout now?
    If we put the delimiter on each new line of the bq will it
    work better?
    And do we need a space between the delimiter and the text?

  63. Screw it — I’m not deleting the test comments — just so you can see how many times it took for me to get the link shortcut to work LOL 🙂

    You can find the markdown short cuts at http://en.support.wordpress.com/markdown-quick-reference/

    Once you get the hang of it, it is quite cool. (Special thanks to Muffy for the suggestions.)

    P.S. I noticed a bug, at least in my browser that when you scroll past the article you don’t always see the last comment first — it seems to drop you in the middle of the thread. To make sure you get to the last page of comments, just click the XX Comments link at the bottom of the essay.

    Thanks from your humble bartender while I spiff up the place. 🙂

  64. Last comment about comments, I promise. That bug I mentioned in the last comment has the wrong workaround associated with it. You won’t see the “xx comments” when you’re in an essay. That only appears on the front page. So the only real workaround is to click “newer comments” if you’re not as recent as you wanna be.

    I could implement comment nesting but I don’t like it and when I did it a few years ago you guys didn’t like it either.

    Feedback is welcome.

  65. I hope this public testing phase is over, that made me insane. I would like to support your eliminating comment numbers, I hated them too. In this format you can reply directly to the comment you’re referring to. If you chose not to, just reference the idea and the commenter you’re addressing already. Referring to a comment number is lazy.

  66. <

    blockquote> I would like to support your eliminating comment numbers, I hated them too. Thank you FN. The theme I chose doesn’t even allow them so I couldn’t enable them even if I wanted to. The mobile version of the old blog didn’t even have them.

  67. I’d like to float a semantic question. Why do we say “radical Islam” and not orthodox Islam? Or fundamentalist Islam? Could it be because Orthodox Jews and fundamentalist Christians don’t lop heads off?

    “Radical” helps us rationalize that they are not REALLY Muslims. But they are. Just as Orthodox Jews are Jews.

  68. I’m such a creature of habit I don’t like this new system even though it clearly rids many problems associated with hundreds if comments.

  69. I hate the elimination of of comment numbers for no other reason like today – you’re gone the entire day, come back, and you have a heck of a time navigating around to figure out whose comment applied to the what and the who from the last page. I find myself looking at the date and time.

    For instance, I click newer comments and most likely find myself reading a comment not applicable to what I just read, forcing me to navigate to the bottom of the page and moving up instead of down which I find far more intuitive. If you’re going to do it this way, I would prefer (for what’s it is worth) the oldest comment on a new page (newer comments) to appear first/top and navigate downward to find each succeeding comment.

    If the idea was to eliminate one large thread by paging ‘X’ number of comments at a time, wouldn’t it make more sense for the mechanism to jump to the succeeding comment upon paging (i.e. 41 thread comments, instead of navigating from comment #20 immediately viewing comment #40, to have comment #21 appear at the top of the page?).

    Did this make a damn bit of sense? LOL It may be just a personal preference on my behalf and I will abide by whatever you choose. Rutherford, Flake couldn’t get lucky enough to run me off. 😛

  70. Rutherford the chosen adjective as it were for islam and muslims really depends on ones school of thought. I’ve mentioned before that many scholarly types class muslims fundamentalist,traditionalist,conservative,moderate and contemporary or modernist. These are not the forms to be ever found in the corners where quickies are the rule.
    Radical is a misnomer in many ways and it serves muslims the best by allowing them an out and I don’t think that works well for anyone really.

    On the Ebola front Spain is the first non – African nation to have a “homegrown” case of Ebola. A nurse who treated two priests/missionaries who acquired the illness separately,one in Sierra Leone one in Liberia and died in Spain, has the fever and tested positive, So far no other members of the treatment team have shown any signs or symptoms.

  71. Any chance Rutherford is trying to discourage commenting?

    This is what I get for trying to satisfy Muffy’s specific request. 😦

    What I can do to meet Muffy and Tex halfway is sort the comments oldest to newest but start the list on the last page.

    If I don’t get an objection before I go to bed that’s what I’ll do.

  72. A comment on the US Supreme Court’s “non-ruling” on gay marriage today?

    I’m seeing it touted as a victory for gay rights. I disagree. I would have preferred to see a definitive ruling.

  73. Rutherford the “non-ruling” brings the count to 30 states that have same sex marriage thus making any future opposition pointless since 38 would be needed on a federal level.
    My outside shot bold prediction on this issue is that partly fueled by spate,compromise and general need the IRS filing status categories will be dumped. I think thats is the shadow candidate for near future politics.

  74. ISIL closing in on border town tuning the tide against Kurds,lets see what the Turks will do.
    Also we have now initiated assault helicopter sorties against ISIL. This is more dangerous for Americans but it also is very up close and personal on ISIL. Trust me I’ve trained as OPFOR against an Apache,they are something else.

  75. What I can do to meet Muffy and Tex halfway is sort the comments oldest to newest but start the list on the last page.

    Suits me. That’s actually what I wanted to request before the overhaul to the layout. A simple limit to page comment totals.

    This is what I get for trying to satisfy Muffy’s specific request.

    Just trying to make the best of an iffy sitch. My complaint isn’t with the attempted fixes and if you wish to press then it’s the domination of the essays 🙂

  76. One more for you: Are you aware of the civil forfeiture laws that have come into effect in US since 9/11?

    John Oliver explains.

  77. Muffy ”

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    blockquote>” etc should still work but I’ve also enabled a shortcut where all you have to do is start the blockquote with “>” and what follows the symbol will be blocked.

  78. Has it occurred to you, Rutherford, that your dearth of commenters on this blog is a symptom of inbreeding?

    Consider the following hypothetical. A blog in which a vocal, vociferous cadre, through intimidation, discourages any commenter from participating unless they hold exactly the “right” (Right) opinion. So any new commenters are always from the same family, so to speak, but there aren’t many. Outsiders glance in and decide they want nothing to do with that family! They may lurk, but they dastn’t contribute.

    Even the US Founding Fathers knew that, while total freedom sounds good, there must be rules. The US “wild west” was “won” when law was imposed. Air travel never prospered until the swashbuckling barnstormers were a thing of the past. ISIS is a perfect example of “absolutely anything goes.”

    Maybe some rules in this wild west bar and grill would be in order. How about the simplest of rules, and one universally agreed upon in all times and all places? “Your idea is stupid, shallow and empty,” is fine. “YOU are stupid, shallow, and empty” is not.

    That’s called “moderating your blog,” Rutherford. There are a lot of people out there with a lot of good things to talk about. I, for one, would like to hear what they have to say.

    Just a thought…

  79. Gawd Pfesser Parker, your DUPLICITY is mind blowing. “Your idea is stupid, shallow and empty,” is UNACCEPTABLE. “Jesus’ idea is stupid, shallow, and empty” IS NOT. 😛

    Is it hypocrisy or just abject stupidity with you? Are you so vain and detached to not have an ounce of perspective what it is about YOU that may be offensive and unlikable? At least with most of us, when we mean to be offensive, we recognize we are attempting to be offensive. Maybe I was not exaggerating when I called you the proverbial drunk with the lampshade over your head, groping women at the tea party while you’re armed with a book by Ms. Manners.

    I used to picture you with a number of glaring faults, but never whiner. That changed. Ever since you were threatening me with the FBI after announcing to the room you ‘never miss and never lose an argument’, which is now accompanied by the Fake2 insufferable and cowardly characteristic of insulting 3rd party and mass emails trying to convince others to join your attempts at blog tyranny, you’ve lost a “bit” of credibility. Why don’t you just accept this ‘cadre’ toward you may simply be a phenomenon a few just find you the proverbial snake in the grass?

    Let me say the same thing to you that I do the Global Warming Crowd. When you start living by the rules you wish the law to impose on others, get back with me and I’ll give consideration to playing by your rules. Time for you to park the car, walk the talk, lead by example. Until then, your inferences will probably ring ‘hollow’ to most.

  80. Gawd Pfesser Parker, your DUPLICITY is mind blowing. “Your idea is stupid, shallow and empty,” is UNACCEPTABLE. “Jesus’ idea is stupid, shallow, and empty” IS NOT.

    Actually Tex you misquoted him. He said insulting the idea, “your idea is stupid and shallow” is fine. His problem was with “YOU are stupid and shallow”.

  81. No Rutherford. You missed the rationale because you don’t understand the reasoning and the context. I’ll try again – in a context that might make sense to even a heathen Leftist. If you don’t get this, I can’t help you.

    Parker’s reasoning: “TEX, you are stupid, shallow and empty,” is UNACCEPTABLE.” “Jesus ideas were stupid, shallow, and empty” IS ACCEPTABLE.

    The latter is far more offensive and meant not only to offend, but to marginalize and demean. Parker seldom misses a day where in some shape, form or fashion, he doesn’t partake in the latter. It’s the lowest and most personal form of the gutter snipe – and in fact, is what riles the head loppers to lop from the religion of pieces. Believe me, if there is one thing I can understand about Islamic fanaticism, it’s why they are offended when I announce Mohammad’s ideas stupid, shallow and empty.

    Parker calling Tex stupid, shallow, and empty is the proverbial big nothing burger. 😐

  82. Also I’m not sure Parker or anyone else here has ever taken issue with the purported ideas of Jesus. To say the man was in no way supernatural is NOT to dismiss any positive philosophies he may have championed.

    You equate rejection of the trinity with total rejection of Jesus. I think there you go a step too far.

  83. No Rutherford. You missed the rationale because you don’t understand the reasoning and the context.

    No I missed nothing. When you restated your premise you corrected your original statement. Had you said that in the first place I would not have taken issue with you.

  84. SAY WHAT RuTHURFORD!!!? I started it? You have to watch “swashbuckling barn stormers” like me. Thanks for the laugh, Rutherford. That was funny.

    Maybe it was her name recognition or the emotions Janeane Garafalo aroused with her anti-Iraq war statements, but that site was more violent than this place has ever been. It shut down twice and once before I was there because of violent specific threats and someone’s calling the FBI. I was suspended at least 30 times, and ten regulars protested when I was permanently banished, as Muffy once wrote “for being James.”. They created another web site so I could keep in touch and threatened to leave if I wasn’t reinstated.

    The denisens had a fight with the site owner, so most of us moved en mass to another site one of the members had created.

    Garafalo became irrelevant and people drifted away. Maybe that’s why so many visited in spite or because of the nastiness.

    You are like Billy Joel’s “Piano Man” ” People put bread in my jar and ask ‘what are you doing here?” I hope more people discover and comment on this site.

  85. I agree the gay marriage discussion is basically over, though debate will continue. The next issue may be polygamy. A court ruled polygamy is not necessarily illegal. Some Mormons secretly practice polygamy, and more Muslims are coming here, Gay marriage may help the cause.

    Local talk radio is still discussing the latest Ebola patient’s arrival. He and people with him were dressed in hazmet suits while a few feet away stood men in tee shirts. Someone e mailed that Neb coach if Bo Pelini was there he would infect Ebola.

    A guest from a hazardous material removal company said it is dangerous business as I already know because i was on such a team. He said red tape hinders the disposal process. It took five days of fighting regulations and getting permits to clean the apartment the Texas patient was staying in. He thinks if the disease escapes here a sluggish government will probably cause it.

  86. Barkeeper – Is this a renovation or restoration? Perhaps a…Resuscitation? Recuperation? I like it.

    I’ll have a shot and a beer and a round for the house. Cheers!

    Are we required to check our weapons at the door?

  87. Just testing the blockquote tag again…hope I got it right….

    “As [redacted] says, we must tolerate these little girls getting their genitals mutilated.” –right wing nutjob trying to force his beliefs onto everybody else

    “Fuck you, you cum-guzzling Islamaphobe. I have never said such a thing. In fact, I have spoken out against that practice several times.

    Pull the cock out of your mouth, pluck the pubes from your eyes, and find a quote that says I support FGM.

    Just because I am in favor of a multicultural society does not mean that I support every practice within every culture.

    Clear enough? Or does it need to be spelled out in man-juice all over your chest? “ –party of tolerance

    READ MORE! @ https://rutherfordl.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/religion-as-game-theory/

  88. Hello Lurker. Just don’t fall on the pool table in back if you get too drunk..

    I have been home alone cleaning the rest of our wrecked garage so contractors can build a new one. It was full of things because we used it as our farm shop. An old patio roof just fell on me. I think I am all right, but I am resting to assess my aches. Then, I will carry sections of the roof out. I mention this because any one of us could suddenly disappear, and unless we were in private contact, no one would ever know. I am fine unless my wife kills me when she finds out what happened. You might idly wonder “did James get tired of this place?” when in reality you would never know that my wife had killed me for taking such chances..

  89. All I can say is that quote isn’t mine.
    @ Parker yeah I’m gonna side a little with Tex’s analysis here. In the early days when in full disclosure there were all of perhaps 4 left of center types commenting in a forum of no more than ten folks. MJ & Curator were two who would totally throw baiting smug sucker punches and then cry victim when the return volley roared.I’d add Sensico later on would drop a comment that either existed in the plane of being a snide remark aimed at a R.O.C. type or an ass wipe upon an ideal or was something she probably found intelligent but would never defend or expand. I ended up doing a blog post on my site highlighting how bad she was for lacking the intellectual chops to defend a point and enter into a real discussion.
    All in all once the comments anywhere depart the plot of the original post I don’t get how anyone can say boo. If half of the former L.O.C types followed and read Rutherfords work they could easily drop a comment and just ignore follow ups from the peanut gallery.

  90. The LA Times reports that contrary to what the administration is telling us, we don’t know how this strain of Ebola spreads. Research with monkeys in 1989 shows it might be airborne. Some public health specialists say there is no proof that a person with no apparent symptoms couldn’t spread the disease to others. The scientists are speculating,and they say they could be wrong.

    People in Omaha are asking similar questions about knowns and unknowns. “because we know there are known knowns. there things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns, that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns we–the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughtout history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.”. Donald Rumsfeld.

    The Ebola patient in Omaha is getting an experimental drug which may not have been throughly tested. it is another unknown.

    We could apply that same logic to climate change or ObamaCare. In the beginning, We cannot make categorical statements because we don’t know everything.

  91. Also I’m not sure Parker or anyone else here has ever taken issue with the purported ideas of Jesus.

    Rutherford, I swear you are hopeless and helpless. A militant atheist doesn’t take issue with the ‘purported ideas’ of Jesus? Is that a fact? ROFL!

    Do you have any idea of who Jesus claimed to be, Rutherford? Let me answer that for you. A resounding NOOOOOOOO, you don’t even know where to start!!!! Do you?

    I have seen you polar opposite of correct, I’ve seen you smug, I’ve seen you ashamed, I’ve seen you contrite, I’ve seen you arrogant, but I’ve never seen you with your pants down. I don’t want to ever see that again. That may have been the most inane of the multitude of inane things you’ve ever typed. 😈

  92. “Parker I get where you’re coming from. On the other hand if you, Poolman and I have thick enough skin to stay the course, why shouldn’t others?”

    Because they don’t. You, Poolman, and I have enough sense of self that nonsense just rolls off without the least effect. We just laugh, or mostly, ignore.

    Others are intimidated and stay away. You don’t look to the exceptions to draw conclusions about the hoi polloi. Do you want more and varied posters, or not?

  93. “Also I’m not sure Parker or anyone else here has ever taken issue with the purported ideas of Jesus.”
    Correct. Actually, I rather like your Christ. Probably a real person, and a damn fine fellow, from all reports. Unfortunately, he is very unlike his followers. (not original, BTW, but appropos.)

    re: “Jesus’ ideas are stupid, shallow, ad infinitinatum…” That would be perfectly fine to say, if one felt that way. Of course, nobody said that; it’s entirely a fabrication from the fevered brain of the great straw man hisownself, who knows no other type of argument.

    Criticize Christ if you wish. Ditto any god with whom you disagree. Ditto any politician, blogger, anybody else. See above. Ideas are fair game; humans are not. Easy.

  94. James, one of the doctors who flew home from West Africa says he is not sure how he contracted Ebola.

    If this turns out to be a new more virulent strain, the CDC will have major egg on its face and we’re all in deep doo doo.

    We also have the entera (sp) virus to worry about. Little boy died of it this week. Supposedly went to bed with pink eye and never woke up.

  95. Yes, Rutherford, that virus is also a threat. Iowa was one of the first states where it was reported. Some of the cases are associated with muscle weakness.

    We also face viruses which have evolved a resistance to antibiotics.

    US troops being sent to west Africa may contrary to what leaders first told us, be close to sick people. One hopes they are quarantined before they return to the US,

  96. Do you have any idea of who Jesus claimed to be, Rutherford?

    You don’t like this answer but I have little faith that Jesus claimed to be anything supernatural. I believe people, some after his death, exploited him for mass sales to the scientifically ignorant masses.

    If I were a betting man I’d say Jesus would look at the cult of personality built around him today and say “you’ve GOT to be kidding.”

    And I say this with no shred of disrespect intended. On the contrary, I’m humble enough to entertain the notion I could be wrong.

    Tex … damn serious question. If we all get wiped out by submicroscopic organisms, how does that fit in your Christian model?

  97. So Poolman here is some red meat for you: there is talk of the potential of our enemies weaponizing Ebola. What do you think of the MIC doing this to kill off ISIL? Kinda reminiscent of when we gave smallpox infested blankets to the native Americans.

  98. Virus not treated with antibiotics so resistance is futile lol
    Seriously Rutherford ebola is going very well stateside
    Not for nothing but the pro phone new theme folks are fucking nuts I o like it on desktop

  99. Fuckin’ A, Muffy. How the hell do you find these quotes? It doesn’t look like you were hanging around back then unless. . . you are. . . nah. . .Elric rebranded?

  100. So Poolman here is some red meat for you: there is talk of the potential of our enemies weaponizing Ebola. What do you think of the MIC doing this to kill off ISIL?

    Who are our those enemies, Rutherford? I don’t think the MIC wants to eliminate ISIL, at least not yet. They have invested too much in building them up. Besides, they just got the green light to blow shit up. Apparently ISIL was hiding around the infrastructure in Syria. Sovereignty be damned in our double standard world view. Now we’re back on track to get rid of Assad, that being the plan all along.

    We already have a full array of weaponized bacteria and viruses. They each have a unique signature that can be traced to a lab and often a patent. Remember the anthrax that killed some and threatened others on 9/11? Those Anthrax letters came from inside the United States. The letters contained a specific type of weaponized Anthrax made by a United States military lab which had been claiming for a lot of years that it wasn’t doing that sort of thing any more. I’m not aware of any scientists aligned with ISIL, but I’m sure they could produce one if the narrative requires it.

    The main thing with this Ebola snews is the fear factor. The talk of Ebola being airborne or spreading is primarily to increase our level of fear and desperation. That’s how we have lost the bulk of our rights and liberties over time.

  101. It doesn’t look like you were hanging around back then unless. . . you are. . . nah. . .Elric rebranded?

    Damn, Tigre, that was classic.

    How much you wanna bet she got straight A’s on her HS and college term papers? Homegirl is a born researcher.

    I consider Rabbit the official Bar and Grill Historian but watch out, Muffy is nipping at his heels.

  102. Tigre, after reading this…

    “I just glanced at the comments section of an ooooold post “88 Years of Hate” and I’m struck by the diversity of the audience. Would love to get more people in here.”

    …I went and checked for myself. No drop in readership #’s since then and no striking diversity back then either. I read a few more comment sections from that time period and observed no difference, and came across that little missive in the process. Charming, innit?

  103. Yeah. That’s quite gem. From Huck no less. I don’t recall much diversity or changes in readership since I started visiting this joint.

    But from time to time I feel nostalgic and wonder what happened to Thorsaurus (a/k/a Numbnutz) and the dude from Kentucky that would restate/misstate your entire premise, then ask you to “agree” before moving on. They hung in for a while, then, I guess, drifted back to their happy cloisters. I do miss Rutherford holding on to the inanity like fat chick to a mechanical bull at the lowest setting before dropping to the floor.

    Good times.

    Now we got Pfesser begging for a ride, with no takers.

  104. Haw haw. Like the kid that always wants to be in charge when Mrs Crabtree has to leave the room.

    I don’t remember the Kentucky dude, but Thor left in a huff because somebody – probably Tex, he’s at fault for everything – suggested that the unemployment numbers were cooked. Thor was like Gwyneth Paltrow around here most of the time.

  105. Yes Muffy, if you dig around a sewer for long enough you’re going to uncover some shit. That wasn’t one of my finer moments, I’ll readily admit. Elric was a baiting asshole and I took the bait. But you’ll notice I am still attacking the individual, and not his family. That’s never been my style, and I’m betting if I do some of my own forum research here I won’t find you highlighting anyone whose style it is.

    Are you afraid to take them on?

  106. Yes Huck was the famous Red Pill, another of the original WordPress Political Bloggers.

    Domestically, Huck and I are probably polar opposites but I’ve always liked his worldview. One thing he and I had in common was the ability to let Elric drive us stark raving crazy.

    The only person besides Elric to drive me that crazy was the dude who put a flyer on a liberals car in a parking lot. Think his name was Noah. Drove me out of my mind but I learned my lesson from Elric and didn’t ban him. Just ignored him for a few weeks until I couldn’t keep still anymore.

    I disagree with Tigre and Muffy. If you look at the comments on 88 Years you’ll find solar1 who was moderate, and Curator who was liberal. Curator was a regular who had his own blog. We also had the hippie professor (not Pfesser) who passed away too soon. These were vocal liberals. Now, if you don’t count the very infrequent contributions of FN and JAL, I’m the only liberal regular here — and that’s cos I own the place.

    Yes it was more diverse back in the day.

  107. I’d have thought by now that I made my problem abundantly clear. But I was evidently mistaken.

    My problem is people here going after other people’s family members with their shit talk. My problem is people laughing about that, rather than saying “wow, that’s fucked up.” My problem is people being outed here and nobody giving a rat’s ass once they find out it wasn’t them.

    Insulting a person here is one thing. We’re all adults and if we can’t take the heat we shouldn’t play with the fire. But going after family members is bullshit. And none of you says a fucking word about it other than “LOL”

    Any of that starting to sound even slightly familiar? If not, looks like you have another research project.

  108. @Huck – are you talking about me insulting that halfwit’s grandson after the fuckshit called me a clit after I called him an inconsiderate showoff? It was a knock on him not the kid. The kid was a prop. It was clumsy of me but trust me I feel damn sorry for anyone who is homeschooled by that half-wit with an internet connection. That’s the truth.

    Now what else is on your mind Huck? Any problem with those two bellylint lickers calling me a clit? You might be interested to know that I know who Pfesser is and have not outed him.

    Why don’t you go after the Christian bigots with the same fever that you go after the islamophobes, Huck? Do I get to order you around or is this a one way deal?

  109. “If you look at the comments on 88 Years you’ll find solar1 who was moderate, and Curator who was liberal.”

    Yeah, “struck by the diversity” might be a stretch.

  110. Huck, what do you call the haters of Christians around here? I’m looking for something catchy like Islamophobe. Hopefully something with some stank on it equal to the offense these bigots intend and the offense they regularly practice. Let me know next time you drive by.

  111. And while you’re at it give me the equivalent of ‘clit,’ Mr Sensitive so I won’t be tempted to defend myself with stuff that’s fucked up.

  112. “My problem is people here going after other people’s family members with their shit talk.”

    If you don’t like my replies to the persistent clit-talk too bad. Let someone talk to your wife that way. Or YOU say something before I get fed up by the fourth or fifth time I have to read it. Either way, get off my back.

    “My problem is people laughing about that, rather than saying ‘wow, that’s fucked up.’ ”

    I never laughed at any such thing. So get off my back.

    “My problem is people being outed here and nobody giving a rat’s ass once they find out it wasn’t them.”

    Then your problem is with everyone. Who are YOU afraid to take on Huck? You’re hot shit with me.

    I heard Tex’s side of the Graychin thing. That POS tried to out Tex and wound up harassing an innocent stranger if I remember correctly. I SAID I didn’t like that or any outing, which is more than a couple of others had to say. So WFT? What do you want from me? Get off my back.

    What is it with you and Rutherford demanding that the lone woman here defend everyone else against misdiagnosed misogyny or attacks on people’s people – and now you don’t like the way I defend myself against the real thing?

    Go to hell.

  113. “the lone woman here defend everyone else against misdiagnosed misogyny or attacks on people’s people – and now you don’t like the way I defend myself against the real thing?

    Go to hell.”

    Cry me a river. Behave like a barroom brawler and you will be treated like one. But what nobody can tolerate is when you get in somebody’s face, get slapped down on your ass and then go crying to Daddy. “I can’t do anything about it, (tears, tears), but Daddy, YOU can!” Puhleeze…

    Man up. If you are going to BE a man, act like one. It’s a rough little town.

  114. I had to laugh, Rutherford – it’s quite telling when the idea of blog moderation is raised. You will see that it is only the worst offenders – the grandson-insulter-types – who suddenly begin to howl like broke-dick-dogs. Says a lot, doesn’t it? LOL.

    On another front, so to speak … if [slur dedacted] is looking for a clit-equivalent term, it’s “penis.” The anlage of both in the fetus is the genital ridge. The labia majora are the female equivalent of the scrotum; the ovaries are, of course, equivalent to the testes.

    The vulva proper is the part visible on the outside; the vagina is the part INSIDE, though. Sometimes, people – even those claiming to be female, don’t know that. LOL

    I know, I know … nobody’s ever talked to “her” like that. (sigh) It’s tough being a sensitive-type, I guess.

    And to show that I’m nothing if not a good bloke, probably the best equivalent term for “Islamophobe” would be “freethinker.” That’s the historical term generally used for realists.

    No need for thanks; research is what I do.

    On to serious stuff: This comment arrangement still has some minor flaws, R. 1) If one is working on a comment and pages back to look at an older comment, the rough draft is lost and you have to start over. 2) Because the comments are shown in chronological order, every time the blog is refreshed, you automatically go to the oldest comment, not the newest. I don’t know if this WordPress theme lets you fix that without changing to reverse-chron. order. Consider having all the comments on a single page, but that will load slowly on mobile devices, I would estimate. Here we have blistering Internet speeds, vis a vis US, anyway, so it’s not a problem for me.

  115. R, the blog is actually reloading to comments somewhere in the middle, not either end. A couple of my employees are WordPress gurus; let me ask them.


    “… and in fact, is what riles the head loppers to lop from the religion of pieces. Believe me, if there is one thing I can understand about Islamic fanaticism, it’s why they are offended when I announce Mohammad’s ideas stupid, shallow and empty.”

    A perfect demonstration of why no modern democracy lets religion of any type within 20 kilometers of the lawmaking process. As you can see from the above statement, Rutherford, in US, the land of perpetual christian jihad, nothing prevents the behavior of the christian zealots from being exactly like that of islamic zealots but Jefferson’s Wall. At least the world has that as a comfort.

  116. One more, and I’m off to dinner: why don’t you consider doing a poll (WordPress will do that) as to whether your blog should be moderated or not? The lurkers (who may or may not exist) who I believe are afraid to post here, would be able to vote anonymously. Obviously, you wouldn’t be bound by the result, but it would certainly be informative, one would think.

  117. Why don’t you just let Pfuckface moderate your blog? Look what he does for diversity and discussion. What a likeable bloke.

  118. And while you’re at it give me the equivalent of ‘clit,’ Mr Sensitive so I won’t be tempted to defend myself with stuff that’s fucked up.

    I was hoping we were past the clit conversation but since you’re bringing it up, no one bats an eye when a guy is called a dick or a prick or for that matter a pussy (which is NOT a reference to a small cat). So anatomical insults are not limited to women. As a society we have a double standard on this — a double standard I whole heartedly subscribe to. I consider it in very poor taste to refer to a woman by her body parts. But let’s not get into a discussion of “equivalence”.

  119. Yeah Rutherford but you picked up a couple of stickers more liberal than anything else besides crazy.

    If you’re referring to Pools, PF and his twin Parker, I wouldn’t call them liberal. I don’t know where to place Pools. He’s an outlier. As for PF/Parker fiscally conservative and socially liberal but in a libertarian sort of way. Certainly not bleeding hearts by any stretch – just look at their racial politics.

  120. Socially liberal? Other than abortion (and personal disdain for the religious), in what ways is PF socially liberal?

  121. Regarding WP plopping you in the middle of comments instead of the end, I was hoping this was peculiar to my PC or browser.

    I actually prefer all comments on one page but load time gets unruly and folks can no longer jump to the bottom. I like this new theme but damn it has its flaws.

    If I get more complaints about breaking the comments up, I’ll put them back in one stream again.

  122. Parker, moderated and policed are two different things. I don’t like being the arbiter of what is PC or not. I prefer people being accountable for what they say. Any “new” commenter goes into moderation until I release them. The regulars post freely and in the long run it’s a good thing despite the periodic bumps in the road.

    Too many libs are spineless and it pisses me off. Just look at poor lib turnout in the midterms. A lazy hypersensitive bunch.

  123. “Too many liberals are spineless.” Exactly, Rutherford.

    That other site is a good testing lab. Some people retreated to the kitchen when I won too many arguments. Later, Pfesser, Craig, Noah, maybe incarnations of Tex, and I virtually took over. The little cowards huddled in the kitchen and muttered about how we had ruined the porch with our sewage. On some days, it was a virtually conservative comments section. Few except Juneau Joe fought back with long posts and links. He explained that he was maintaining a liberal presence on the blog.

    We see the same phenomenon here. I don’t think the insults keep liberals away. The lack of material also plays a role. When they slowly realize they are wrong, they are firing blanks. Why waste the time?

    My serial departure from that site was a calculated weapon. Many people scrolled by my comments, so I stayed away and sent a volley which made it a novelty. The morbidly curious looked. I told them I was gone again and wouldn’t read their comments. Some were furious.

    Most liberals who leave here do so because they know they are whipped. The few who return like the debate. At least they appear to.

  124. “Tigre, PF’s permissiveness goes beyond abortion — he’s a sexual free thinker all the way around.”

    gag

    The two stickers helped put the catastrophe in the WH, that’s liberal enough. You should have been there at FGs back in the day. James remembers it through James’ filters but in any event you wouldn’t exactly have been struck by the diversity. And Poodles was the biggest koolaid lush there. He also played guard dog at the gate whenever any newbie showed up with a trace of conservative dialect. While sexually permissive free-thinking Pfesser Sandusky here was just as desperate in his attempts to vanquish superstition and become an honorary moderator as he has consistently been here.

    I will never forget the time they were lecturing a woman on racism and she calmly replied, “I am black.” Similar incident happened to a lesbian.

    Yeah the new format is ass. Can’t be patched with creative sorting. But we come here for the articles anyway.

  125. Yesterday on the job I encountered first hand why voter ID laws can cause problems for minorities. Brotha was having difficulty getting approved for a bank account cos his first name was spelled 3 different ways on 3 different id’s.

    Until black women start giving their children sensible names, we should proceed with caution. 🙂

    P.S. Invariably the ridiculous first name is followed by a completely rational last name.

    A’Precious Watson (real first name — I’m not kidding)
    Temetrious Jones
    Dequarious Wilson.

    LOL it never fails. I ask for first name and I get some random collection of consonants and vowels. I ask for last name and I get “Wilson”.

  126. Rutherford the equivalence is nigger. And I didn’t bring it up – Huck did, albeit indirectly. I don’t do passive aggressive. You’ve demonstrated before that you have a sequencing problem and your phone is usually to blame, but that’s the order. Unfortunately his homophobic rant wasn’t commentary from the party of tolerance this time as I had assumed, but merely the stuff of right wing hate speech. Knowing now that it was him – was that a put on? Seems out of character but then I don’t really know the guy and I didn’t pick up on it. It’s not like we all change our logins to hide from our ugly pasts.

    What do you think of the name Lady Willpower?

    As I said, I had no idea he was Red Pill – that was before my time. Although evidently I don’t have to actually be here yet to give my tacit approval to the cuntifiction of the legendary sensico and the myriad of other abused women back in the halcyon days of diversity and crowds of eager readers.

    And your equivalency is ludicrous, but then I’ve come to expect this level of social commentary from a hermit who never leaves his house except to complain about being with people.

  127. re·li·gion noun \ri-ˈli-jən\
    : the belief in a god or in a group of gods

    : an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods

    : an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group

    We are a religious culture. Politics is religion, don’t be deceived. When I first came here, it was more than obvious. Now many have lost their faith, as is inevitable given the recent failings of our political system. The curtain may not be drawn, but the edges are frayed and the fabric in shreds.

    Professional sports is another such religion visibly in decay.

    Some of my observations after commenting on line for 5 years or so regarding the ‘liberal vs. conservative’ types are as follows. Right wingers are more apt to instigate a fight and are overall more confrontational than the majority of the left wingers are. They are generally the first to belittle the messenger and his/her camp, and that includes family. They more often band together against diversity. They are less tolerant and more ‘vocal’ of others with opposing viewpoints. They are the most difficult to convert . Logic is of lesser import than image. Studies back that up. I’m aware of a few exceptions with regard to militant lefties. Of course, we’ve had a democrat in office the whole time, though admittedly he’s full on warmonger-in-chief. Most of the angst on the right is due to the left being the ones ‘in charge’.

    That said, everyone needs to develop a thick skin when wading into the blog:Osphere. If others belittle you and/or your family or associates rather than the ideas or conclusions you put forth, you can be assured they can’t win the logical argument. It is a reflection of THEIR weakness of character. One should never type out any words one would later regret. Sometimes it’s better to wait until the ‘cooler’ head prevails.

  128. I will never forget the time they were lecturing a woman on racism and she calmly replied, “I am black.” Similar incident happened to a lesbian.

    Yeah the new format is ass. Can’t be patched with creative sorting. But we come here for the articles anyway.

    As you recall I also got lectured at FG’s. It was an eye opener to see a liberal blog as intolerant as any conservative one.

    As for the format here, I continue to be open to suggestions. If you put the snark aside, Muffy, I’ve acted on your suggestions and I’m open to more.

    Oh … I’m not sure we know PF’s voting record. Pools only voted for Obama the first time. And of course Parker can’t vote. 😉

  129. The hardest part of being a parent is the ability to say to your child that was a stupid idea when what you really want to say is “Gawd, YOU are stupid”!

    This concept doesn’t usually carry over into the blogsphere.. If the commentaries adhered to this concept, fewer feathers would fly. I’ll relate one example in a discussion between Tex and I. I don’t remember the exact statement but I referred to Colin Poiwell and indicated I thought he had done a good job. Whereas Tex attacked me (not surprising 🙂 instead of explaining why he didn’t like Powell. I would have enjoyed that conversation!

    James, I don’t totally agree with your statement as we really don’t know why someone comes and goes on a blog we can only assume. I would agree that many who remain do like the debate at least for awhile until it becomes personal and decide it’s time to move on.
    “Most liberals who leave here do so because they know they are whipped. The few who return like the debate. At least they appear to.”

    James is an exception to the “your idea versus YOU” concept. He had a stupid idea regarding cleaning the garage and he was STUPID to attempt it and if the garage roof doesn’t kill him his wife will 😆

  130. Dear Muffy Willpower, how in heavens name is the N word equivalent to clit? Once again you’ve lost me.

    Hermit? Since you and I live near each other I know it’s a beautiful fall day where you are, albeit a bit chilly. What bug is up your ass this morning? Go for a nice walk and clear your head.

    BTW Huck may have been poking at Elric’s sick sense of humor when he claimed to be gay on a MySpace profile.

  131. Pools, yes and no. James is in the majority here but he is also polite. I truly think he’s earned the respect he’s gotten here.

    On the other hand our friend Raji has always been polite and got savaged here on occasion, as she just mentioned. And funny thing is I don’t even think Raji can be classified as liberal.

    This is an odd place. You catch someone on the wrong day and you’ll get it right between the eyes. I’m as guilty as anyone else. I even regret some of my attacks on Tex whom I consider bullet proof. It’s easy to forget in this medium that people have feelings — or feefees as Muffy would say.

  132. “As you recall I also got lectured at FG’s. It was an eye opener to see a liberal blog as intolerant as any conservative one. It was an eye opener to see a liberal blog as intolerant as any conservative one.”

    The overreaction to your penisness was hysterical. You just had to be an old white Repug bible thumping women hater to even suggest a modicum of responsibility be considered.

    There is no one more judgmental, militant, intolerant, and hateful than the abortion and gay rights crowd, except perhaps for blacks in positions of power they claim their people are denied.

    Ever overhear a gay dude talk about lesbians? It’s a vulgar-cano. Or a liberal bash gay conservatives? Or calling gay black conservatives Uncle Toms without a hint of shame or self-awareness. Or a liberal bash Christians and turn around and call them Islamophobes and try and pawn off that he’s a non-offending equal opportunity hater – surely you’ve heard some of that. Heh heh.

    The NYT reported about a week or so back the according to an unnamed source within the FBI regarding the beheading of the grandmother in Oklahoma, they haven’t found a link to any motive aside from being fired.

    Imagine if a white guy had grabbed a black dude in a wheelchair and hoisted him up and hung him from a tree. Would we be asking if the black guy maybe rolled over the white guy’s toe?

    And despite all of Pfester’s references to christian jihad – all talk. No substance to it.

    Pfester helped put the catastrophe in the WH. You want I should find a quote?

  133. “Dear Muffy Willpower, how in heavens name is the N word equivalent to clit? Once again you’ve lost me.”

    I’m going to let that one percolate for a while. If it doesn’t come to you in due time or in the form of a pile onto your stupid idea then I’ll definitely set you straight, boyfriend.

    “What bug is up your ass this morning? Go for a nice walk and clear your head.”

    A spineless self-fellating jellybellied ugly arachnid. The walk is definitely a good idea though.

  134. Hey, PF, you dunce. Muffy can be offended without requiring anybody’s protection. You’re the one that threatened to call the FBI because you felt “threatened,” you sexually deviant sissy. Seeing Muffy wipe the floor with your ass on a daily basis is incredibly entertaining. I pray Rutherford doesn’t censor YOU and bring it to an end.

  135. Rutherford, try pronouncing this first name: “La-a.”

    It’s for real. Let me know when you’ve given up.

  136. Tigre I have to assume it’s pronounced LA followed by just saying the letter A.

    So far the name that cracks my wife up every time came from my old job. Let’s say his last name was Watkins, doesn’t really matter. It was the first name that kills my wife:

    Misterwillie Watkins.

    No he’s not Mr. Willie Watkins. His first name is actually Misterwillie.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Yesterday a customer said her name was Elena. Ok. Couldn’t find her in database. First name was Eleyna. She told me “my mom was being creative”.

  137. LOLOLOLOLOL I gotta tell my wife that one.

    I’m very up front about this foolishness. When my kid tells me one of the manufactured names of one of her friends, I tell her “that is not a name”. She thinks I’m intolerant.

  138. Sure. There’s plenty of common names that stand out. But its rife with others that can hardly be called solid if they can’t be pronounced. Here’s a small sampling of men’s names from the OT:

    Japheth, Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, Tiras, Ashkenaz, Riphath, Togarmah, Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, Rodanim, Ham, Cush, Mizraim, Put, Canaan, Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, Sabteca, Sheba, Dedan, Nimrod, Sidon, Shem, Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, Aram, Uz, Hul, Gether, Meshech, Shelah, Eber, Peleg, Joktan, Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah, Jobab, Hanoch, Pallu, Hezron, Carmi, Simeon, Jemuel, Jamin, Ohad, Jakin, Zohar, Shaul, Levi, Gershon, Kohath, Merari, Judah, Er, Onan, Shelah, Perez, Zerah, Hezron, Hamul, Issachar, Tola, Puah, Jashub, Shimron, Zebulun, Sered, Elon, Jahleel, Gad, Zephon, Haggi, Shuni, Ezbon, Eri, Arodi, Areli, Asher, Imnah, Ishvah, Ishvi, Beriah, Heber, Malkiel, Manasseh, Ephraim, Potiphera, Bela, Beker, Ashbel, Gera, Naaman, Ehi, Rosh, Muppim, Huppim, Ard, Hushim, Naphtali, Jahziel, Guni, Jezer, Shillem, Jephunneh, Shemuel, Ammihud, Elidad, Kislon, Bukki, Jogli, Hanniel, Ephod, Kemuel,Shiphtan, Elizaphan, Parnach, Paltiel, Azzan, Ahihud, Shelomi, Pedahel, Ammihud.

    How about those? Most aren’t familiar to our tongue. Of course we get Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Rachel, Leah, Samuel, David, and Ruth, Joshua, Gabriel, etc. I know quite a few Elijahs, Isaiahs, Jonahs, and Ezekiels.

    Here’s the male lineage of Jesus given in Matthew:

    Abraham was the father of Isaac, the father of Jacob, the father of Judah, the father of Perez, the father of Hezron, the father of Ram, the father of Amminadab, the father of Nahshon, the father of Salmon, the father of Boaz, the father of Obed, the father of Jesse, the father of King David, the father of Solomon, the father of Rehoboam, the father of Abijah, the father of Asa, the father of Jehoshaphat, the father of Jehoram, the father of Uzziah, the father of Jotham, the father of Ahaz, the father of Hezekiah, the father of Manasseh, the father of Amon, the father of Josiah, the father of Jeconiah, the father of Shealtiel, the father of Zerubbabel, the father of Abiud, the father of Eliakim, the father of Azor, the father of Zadok, the father of Akim, the father of Eliud, the father of Eleazar, the father of Matthan, the father of Jacob, the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

    There’s a mix of common and foreign names in that bunch. Sometimes the English translation gets in the way. And there’s these from Paul’s letters in the NT that are not common today. :

    Epenetus, Andronicus, Junias, Ampliatus, Urbanus, Stachys, Apelles, Herodion, Narcissus, Tryphena,Tryphosa, Persis, Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermes, Patrobas, Hermas, Philologus, Nereus, Olympas, Lucius, Sosipater, Tertius, Gaius, Erastus, Quartus, Philemon, Apphia, Archippus, Epaphras, Aristarchus

  139. The conservative version could have Ted Nugent saying “I’m for guns and voter id”. The trick is conservatives don’t need this video. No turnout problem there. Dems, different story.

  140. “Parker, moderated and policed are two different things. I don’t like being the arbiter of what is PC or not.”

    Precisely. Which is why “moderated” is the right thing to do, and policing is not.

    Moderation is not policing of ideas, just whether the attacks are on ideas or on people. It’s real easy, Rutherford, and its done on blogs all over the Web.

    Do you want more and varied posters, or not? Because if you don’t get a chain on your frothing dogs, they – and only they – are going to be your only compadres from here on out. That what you want? (Maybe it is what you want; nothing wrong with that, but that’s not what you say.)

    And believe me, moderation is the humane thing to do: it’ll save [redacted] from a fate worse than [redacted].

    On the Ladasha thing: you’d think a trained ambulance-chaser would be smarter than to fall for that. That’s kid stuff.

  141. Rutherford,

    Does it bother you that the ‘Rock the Vote’ video is the base of the Democrat Party? 🙂 I always remember this when everyone announces to me that the Democratic Party is the party of ‘intellects.’

  142. You don’t like this answer but I have little faith that Jesus claimed to be anything supernatural. I believe people, some after his death, exploited him for mass sales to the scientifically ignorant masses.

    Here’s what I find so difficult about reaching you, Rutherford. Your reasoning. It’s corrupted. And unfortunately it’s not just limited to secularism. Your politics is also inane – which has now manifested itself to such a glaring degree, even you won’t attempt to defend it.

    What do you know that 11 men that walked with Jesus for 3½ years all but one that went to their deaths for Him, His mother, 1st Century Church fathers, thousands of followers, hundreds of eye witnesses don’t know – all that were 2,000 years closer to the dialogue and the movement than you were? Rome tried to silence it and failed, finally becoming the home base of the nascent religion.

    That would be like me saying I don’t think Mohammad thought himself a prophet – he was just a regular guy.

    I’m sorry, Rutherford. The real truth is you don’t want to believe it and look for excuse not to believe it. And it’s because of three things: (1) Your upbringing; (2) It gets in the way; (3) And you’re not brave enough to criticize His message because even within humanism, you’re worried what people might think. It’s willingly and purposely dishonest on your part.

    Now whether you choose to believe Christ was God is not the question here. What you attempt to do is make perhaps the lamest excuse I’ve ever read to minimize the man’s claims that He made Himself – the most well documented script in human history, from the best selling book in history 50 times over.

    This will break poor Pfesser’s policing – but that claim is beyond stupid. It’s irrational.

  143. I could be wrong, Raji, but my insult toward you had little to do with Colin Powell. 😈 Further, I believe I went on to document while I was insulting, why I found Colin Powell not only as overrated as Barack Obama, but as political and as dishonest. I think Powell is neither intelligent nor polished, and I said that as far back as 1991. I think Powell was promoted for the same reasons Barack Obama promoted to President.

    Here’s what Colin Powell was to Republicans – but not now. Most now either believe like I always have that Powell is a political charlatan, or to the more established, conforming Republicans, a traitor.. Colin Powell was the Barack Obama of the Republican Party – a black man that could fulfill a desired wish – blown up bigger than life because he was black, looked good, spoke well. Norman Schwartzkopf was 100 times the man Colin Powell was.

    America regardless of party wanted a minority President ignoring the competency and qualification. To be honest, I find that a latent form of racism. I prefer to judge the man – and I did then and I do now find Colin Powell wanting – a man of little character and narcissist.

  144. Rutherford – the Ladasha story is apocryphal. Snopes it up.

    Thanks for the heads up Parker. Tigre knows I’m gullible. Guess he got me again. And sadly the names I’ve encountered are so ridiculous, Tigre’s joke seemed plausible. Glad you caught me before I shared it with my family as legit.

  145. To say the man was in no way supernatural is NOT to dismiss any positive philosophies he may have championed. You equate rejection of the trinity with total rejection of Jesus. I think there you go a step too far.

    You’re wrong, Rutherford. It’s a ludicrous supposition to deny the man’s purpose, the very reason for His sacrifice and His Life, and then call Him a good man. In fact, it’s the absolutely height of dishonesty. But I can’t say it better than C.S. Lewis, so I will let him set you straight…if it were anyone of what I consider greater depth, I’d light you up. As it is, I feel like when I debate with you, you’re the consummate ‘mind of a child in an adult body.’

    “I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him (ed Jesus): I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.
    ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

  146. Does it bother you that the ‘Rock the Vote’ video is the base of the Democrat Party?

    Honestly I’m in favor of anything that gets out the vote. If they say “everyone gets a free blow job” that’s fine with me.

    Some countries make voting mandatory. We should too.

  147. By the way, on the subject of Leon Panetta, I find him no hero. And I find Panetta a moral coward.

    I’ve heard several theories as to why Panetta is going public – everything from he’s a straight shooter, to a good American and patriot, to he’s sitting up Hillary, to sell books. I find these secondary issues – perhaps the books. 🙂

    I think it is becoming obvious that Barack Obama is the most unqualified President to ever serve. I’ve made it clear I find Obama not only a malignant narcissist, not terribly bright, a moral coward in his own right, a product of 60s radicalism, but grossly incompetent and gutless.

    But…

    I think Panetta recognizes the same things I do – and since Barack Obama’s Presidency is falling apart, Panetta doesn’t want his name attached to the failure; Panetta wants to be remembered as the one man in this sordid administration who saw clearly.

    If Panetta was such a straight shooter, why wasn’t he vocal while still in office?

  148. That would be like me saying I don’t think Mohammad thought himself a prophet – he was just a regular guy.

    You would know better than I how many people contemporaneous with Jesus wrote the Bible.

    If Jesus HIMSELF believed he was the son of God, then by virtue of my disbelief in the supernatural I’d have to conclude Jesus was deluded.

    I’d prefer not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Therefore I’d like to think a perfectly sane and inspirational leader was turned, though no fault of his own into a spectacularly popular cult. All martyrs are mythologized so I take Christianity as this on steroids.

    If I understand you correctly Tex, you are saying if I can’t accept the concept of the trinity then Christ and his teachings should have no role in my life. Isn’t that what you’re saying?

    My college roommate used to say “if you believe in love, you believe in God”. I kinda liked that. It was his way of saying its impossible to truly be atheist. It was very inclusive.

  149. My problem is people being outed here and nobody giving a rat’s ass once they find out it wasn’t them.

    Huck, you’re a coward. I asked you several questions which you now can’t answer with the advent of ISIS and you ran. You know why? Because they indicate in your supposed matter of expertise, you’re clueless. It’s undeniable.

    I used to think you were reasonably bright – now I think you’re simply immature and weak – a blowhard and insignificant.

    Let me tell you something once again and you’ll get no further explanation. I’ve “outed” exactly one person in my life. The man participated in trying to damage “my business” – not just out me; to damage a man’s livelihood. That included pictures of “my house” with address, the revenue and number of employees, the link to the business’ website on a site which was local. Problem is, I don’t own a business and the house wasn’t mine. You know what my sin was? I criticized the editorial board and called them phonies. It wasn’t even persona.

    I gave the prick one chance to apologize and set the record straight. He ignored me then mocked me. And I had enough.

    You pull that shit, I’ll out you too. And I won’t stop at your name. I’ll post your credit history. I’ll post your criminal record. I’ll post your kid’s names. I’ll fight fire with fire. I know virtually every person on this board – including two that don’t like. I won’t “out” them EVER unless they pull the same stunt. You got a problem with that, too bad.

    As far as insulting someone’s family? You insult my Master – in the most insidious ways possible. That is the most sacrosanct thing in my entire life – far more than even my wife and kids. As far as I’m concerned, when I warn you to stop and you don’t do it, there are no rules and everything is on the table.

    That bothers you, stop the insults. You want a war? I’ll give you one.

    Either man up and buck up, or leave. You whine like a little girl – the equivalent of Fake2; a coward and fink.

  150. Panetta may simply be trying to get Hilary elected. I heard a theory yesterday that he’s in her camp.

    My gut liked Panetta but not so much now. You don’t kiss and tell on the CIC during wartime.

  151. Barack Obama bad
    Colin Powell bad
    Clarence Thomas good
    Herman Cain good
    Ben Carson good.

    Notice a pattern Tex? 🙂

    I might if you had it accurate. Herman Cain, dumb and untalented. Ben Carson – capable and admirable; but not for President. Clarence Thomas? Yes, a personal hero. I could add the black faces Thomas Sowell (atheist and brilliant).

  152. Rutherford, I like the new website. I even like the massive font. But the navigation is a POS. I’m glad you took my suggestion of comment sorting per page. But damn, I have to page through half the table to get back to the comment I just posted. 😡

    Are these simply parameters you get to choose on a page layout? If so, WordPress needs to hire me to write code for them.

  153. As far as insulting someone’s family? You insult my Master – in the most insidious ways possible.

    Two things. First, honest to goodness I don’t recall Huck mocking Christ. He wants Islam to get a fair hearing. That’s very different.

    Second, are you REALLY saying you put Christ above your wife and children? If so you should be a priest. You have NO business with a family. I’m not kidding.

  154. Are these simply parameters you get to choose on a page layout? If so, WordPress needs to hire me to write code for them.

    You’d do a damn finer job. And could you fix this shitty iphone app while you’re at it?

    The navigation bug has me steaming. And it turns out, if you scroll down to “recent comments” and select one, it doesn’t take you there. 😡

    I narrowed my choice of new themes down to two. I may look at the other one and make another facelift if it fixes some of these bugs but not until the weekend.

    My wife always laughs at me that given a 50/50 decision, I always pick the wrong one.

    Tigre: “Mmmm that must explain Romney/Obama”

    I thought I’d save you the trouble of writing it.

  155. Hey, PF, you dunce. Muffy can be offended without requiring anybody’s protection.

    OMFG I’m so confused:

    1. Muffy is angry it took so long for me to come to her defense.
    2. Tigre etal. say she needs no defense.
    3. In the next breath Tigre etal. say “PF Cunt” (btw isn’t that a restaurant chain PF Cunt’s?). They do this in Muffy’s defense.
    4. Muffy then praises those defending her without “asking permission” even though she needs no defense.

    This is more complicated than the Syrian situation. I think I need John Kerry on the blog to give me diplomatic advice.

  156. You had better put God first, Rutherford. That’s how it works. There is a natural order and the sooner you realize the source of your very being and submit to the established order, the wiser and happier you will be. Jesus came as an example, as a sacrifice, as leader. King of kings. If you think there is no world beyond what you see and feel, you’ve got another thing coming.

  157. There is a natural order and the sooner you realize the source of your very being and submit to the established order, the wiser and happier you will be.

    Truly fascinating coming from you Pools. You have repeatedly warned against MANipulation by the PTB and you’ve even suggested some religious leaders are part of this World Order, including all of Judaism. Yet you want me to submit? You’ve advised me there is no one trustworthy enough to submit to.

    You’re serving up a big plate of confusion my friend.

  158. No confusion. You don’t serve man or mammon, Rutherford. There is only one man that is perfect. He suffered and paid the ultimate price because of His love for His fellow man. He was innocent and carries our guilt, the guilt we inherit and acquire on this journey. But we don’t depend on other men to feed our spirit. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.

    And no, not all of Judaism 🙄 There are Jews who really aren’t Jews.

    You don’t think the supernatural exists. Really the word is a modern one. In days of old everyone knew the other spirit realms existed. There was no distinction between science and religion. It’s hard to pick up on spiritual things if you have no point of reference. In your life, have you ever encountered ghosts or unexplained windows or doors being opened or shut or lights turning on or off when no one is near the switch?

  159. I swear Poolman might be Satan.

    For a guy I have zero respect for, he seems to have this uncanny ability to make me doubt my faith.

    Poolman the great anti evangelical.

    Ghosts and ghouls and creaking houses?

    His defenses for Christianity always have the opposite effect on me.

    The very fact someone so confused about reality is also a Christian creates that inner voice of doubting Thomas that I can’t seem to shake.

    I can see it now. I will roast in hell because of some village idiot on the internet!

  160. “I could be wrong, Raji, but my insult toward you had little to do with Colin Powell.”

    Oh I agree Tex. The topic of discussion could have been about green eggs and ham and you would have insulted me. 🙂

  161. Rutherford, with regard to comments I don’t understand the WP design that instead of taking you direct to your comment it throws you back at least three pages of newer comments which one has to wade through to get back to one’s comment. –

  162. “I heard a theory yesterday that he’s in her camp.”

    Oh my. You think Rutherford woke up one morning in the Spring of ’07 and said “I think I’m interested in politics and will do a blog?”

    Yes, R, you could say Panetta is in Hillary’s camp. Like in her tent, in her sleeping bag. Inside her nightgown. They used to roast marshmallows together whenever Bill was off in the woods trying to find the nearby girl scout camp with the hot troop leaders. Leon would scoop up Hillary’s poop and put it in plastic bags for her. Yes.

  163. rabbit, instead of Poolman’s being Satan, he might be an angel sent to test your faith. Perhaps God and the Devil have another bet similar to the one they did with Job.

    Leon Panetta has a reputation for gravitas as an elder statesman. He could have resigned or spoken out when he was working with Hillary, but he didn’t as far as I remember. Panetta is salvaging his reputation to avoid the manure as chickens come home to roost..

  164. Oh my again. Ted Nugent and mandatory voting.

    Put your Ted Nugent arrow back in your quiver, Little John. There’s no balance for that video and if that video is any indication it’s no wonder you think mandatory voting is the way to go. Sure, maybe even a free blunt for their troubles of answering the door and signing a big X on the line next to the big D.

    You’re a winner! But what is it you’ve won? It’s a date with a big knife.

    I hyperbole.

    But did you listen to what those inglorious celebrity puddin’ heads were saying?

  165. ”OMFG I’m so confused.”

    I know you are, baby. I’ll have to tackle your confusion later though, it’s my long day at work. I’ll tie it in with your question to me about equivalencies. (CLUE!)

  166. You think Rutherford woke up one morning in the Spring of ’07 and said “I think I’m interested in politics and will do a blog?”

    Yup that is very close to the truth. I had little interest in politics pre-2007 and hadn’t the foggiest idea what a blog was before I started this one.

    And honestly Muffy, ever the Snidely Whiplash, I never intended for this to be a political blog. I was interested in social commentary. I’m interested in how people behave.

  167. Rutherford how can you react to the relatively mild Snidely (what a great name) and ignore the prize inside? Leon Panetta is an old Clinton ally from before most of Bill’s lovers were born, that’s all I’m saying.

    sigh

    “If Jesus HIMSELF believed he was the son of God, then by virtue of my disbelief in the supernatural I’d have to conclude Jesus was deluded.

    I’d prefer not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Therefore I’d like to think a perfectly sane and inspirational leader was turned, though no fault of his own into a spectacularly popular cult. All martyrs are mythologized so I take Christianity as this on steroids.”

    If what Tex says is true then you don’t get a fall back position on this, Braveheart.

    And think of this the next time I refer to your widely used “If, Then” wimpouts. I mean arguments. You use programming language to get out of tough decisions all the time.

  168. UGH I’M SORRY! This is a conversation between Tex and Rutherford. Tex, I’m sorry. You too R. I do try but I’ll try harder not to butt in. R you answered well enough for himself and specifically to you Tex. I’m outie.

  169. “1.Muffy is angry it took so long for me to come to her defense”.

    I think she was angry with your hypocrisy.

    “2.Tigre etal. say she needs no defense.”

    You think she does? She kicks you and PF Cunt around all day long.

    “3.In the next breath Tigre etal. say “PF Cunt” (btw isn’t that a restaurant chain PF Cunt’s?). They do this in Muffy’s defense.”

    Oh, sorry. That’s a common expression used in a jocular manner in Australia. Pf ought to know that. 🙄 Plus, he is.

    You, of course, don’t get sarcasm unaccompanied by an emoticon.

    “4.Muffy then praises those defending her without “asking permission” even though she needs no defense.”

    Methinks she rebuffs your form of chivalry.

  170. “And believe me, moderation is the humane thing to do: it’ll save [redacted] from a fate worse than [redacted].”

    HAHAHAHAHA!

    Oh my some more and ad infinitum. I do believe that is a threat. I also do believe Pfesser Dingleberry isn’t taking no for an answer and don’t we girls just love that.

  171. “And what rough beast, its hour come round at last slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?” Robert Yeats.

    Our grand daughter was sitting on my lap, when she began to slide down to the floor. I said she was slouching toward Gommorah–The title of a Robert Bork book.

    Our daughter said exposure to her grand parents will give our grand daughter a strange vocabulary.

    For some reason, after the Nobel Peace Prize and the light master allusions, of the political second coming, the poem lets me think of Obama.

    My parents taught me no means no, even when persistent sales people try to sell me something.

  172. Thanks for the nice comments, people.

    Ragi, I know my conclusion about liberals deserting this site are on thin ice. I could well be misjudging cause and effect. However, until they return to explain themselves, my conclusions are as good as anyone’s. As you stated, we cannot really know.

    My wife was furious. The poor woman has a heavy cross to bear with me. I am not the same person she met at age 18. I take chances which are really dumb. My mother said the service ruined me. I think it gave me a new prospective. My stupidity will be the end of me someday, but not yet, because it is calculated stupidity. I calculate the odds, and so far I have won. Better to go with my mind and body intact than to wither away in a nursing home or a hospital bed.

    We have a ratty old painting of Jesus in our kitchen right now. Our church closed on Sunday, and the district superintendent who came to deliver the coup d’ grass told us everything in the church belonged to the conference. I talked about endings and how we were the end of the line in our first real home after we were married. It was a 450 year old thatched roofed cottage in Essex, UK.

    My wife sent daggers to me, because I was embarrassing the heck out of her. I was being stupid. But it changed the lady’s mind.

    The lady got teary and said we could take the picture and small items we wanted.

  173. @ Rutherford “social commentary” is very much akin to politics. Since I’ve “known” you your posts have been consistently and transparently political as much as anything else.
    @ Tex I disagree with your opinion of Powell but think you hit an obvious nail on the head regards Panetta. Those that desire future employment will distance themselves from much of Obamas legacy
    @ Muffy don’t know if I misunderstood your position but mandatory voting is actually a really really good idea,see Brazil…80% turnout last election.
    On election news along lines that Rutherford rolls…
    Saw an article by Dionne that looked at NC blacks all riled up about recent “conservative” election rules voodoo. The article celebrates the notion that the black leaders see a very real chance that in light of the voter “suppression” antics of the big bad ole GOP blacks may actually turn out and vote. [snicker] The article to me exemplifies what many have said about 21st century America and voting rights. Easily overcome obstacles such as ID requirements is a nothing burger with special sauce.
    @ James I think I came across the LA Times Op/Ed about Ebola. I’m still of the opinion that the government has done an adequate job in line with the actual threat and the actual powers people would allow exerted
    One dead in USA with no reported spread amongst his intimates. Spain one treated,one under observation,no other spread and a lost opportunity to properly review cross species spread secondary to the whacking of the dog.

  174. Muffy if Tex and I want a private conversation we should have it in private, so no apology needed.

    I’m curious to hear whether Tex came to his conclusions independently or whether he was heavily influenced by CS Lewis. If I hit the Google, which I’m too lazy to do at the moment, I’m sure I could find theologians who strive to make the Christ story more palatable to skeptics like me.

  175. But did you listen to what those inglorious celebrity puddin’ heads were saying?

    They were asking for the usual laundry list of Dem goodies. Should I have been surprised?

  176. And think of this the next time I refer to your widely used “If, Then” wimpouts. I mean arguments. You use programming language to get out of tough decisions all the time.

    LOLOLOLOLOL That gave me a genuine chuckle. I think in my attempt to strive for logic I do lapse into “programming language”. Just be glad you’re not seeing a lot of do/while and do/until constructions. 🙂

  177. Regarding the nigga/clit equivalency of course I get your point Muffy of the severity of each affront, if that is where you were headed. My original comment was limited to anatomical insults which are not unique to women. I kinda thought your N word comeback moved the goalposts a bit.

  178. You, of course, don’t get sarcasm unaccompanied by an emoticon.

    It does help me when you roll your eyes. 🙄

    I’m glad she rebuffs my form of chivalry. That way if by chance she and I are ever together, her expectations will be low and she won’t be surprised when I hide behind her skirt in the face of danger. 🙂

  179. “This is the danger of redaction. More can be inferred than was actually there.”

    Rutherford I honestly assumed he redacted himself for effect, in cooperation with your request. That’s what any of the rest of us would do (comply) and if we didn’t like it we’d leave. I guarantee that much.

    This disturbed bloke has crossed over into scary territory. Thank goodness this is not a real bar.

    “My original comment was limited to anatomical insults which are not unique to women. I kinda thought your N word comeback moved the goalposts a bit.”

    I don’t think “clit” is an anatomical insult any more than N is about skin color. Both slurs, both extreme, both carry similar charges. In my opinion.

    I don’t need chivalry from you Rutherford but you say that silence is approval and then you are silent. You attached the meaning to your own silence. And you’ve repeatedly judged me for my silence here at various times in accordance with that meaning. That angered me.

    As for Tex and Tigre, I just liked that they did what they wanted to and didn’t make me be responsible for them.

    Ultimately, the unlikeable bloke set impossible conditions for stopping voluntarily. You can see how well requesting that he stop has worked for you.

    Take care of that cold. Coughing sucks.

  180. I have been dutifully trying to catch up on comments before this particular episode of the bar and grill closes, but I’m not gonna make it. Here’s my comment re: “moderation”. Ha ha! Good luck with that! Been there, suggested that, been laughed out of the room. Never gonna happen.
    The fact is that having no rules is a rule. It gives license to any kind of defamatory or irrelevant comment (take for example, “Fuck off FN”) proffered. Rutherford will not “moderate” that, because the worst thing you can call him is a censor. That is the highest value. You can call him an idiot, or a prick but you can’t ever say he isn’t even-handed. Or so he thinks.
    There is a corollary rule…who is Rutherford to judge where to draw the line? He’s afraid to draw any line. My opinion on it is that you can draw the line on it anywhere you want. It’s your house.
    Freedom of speech, no matter what the speech is, is valued. Civility is not. Clever turns of phrase, snarkiness, and quick wittedness are It’s often like “That was so naughty, but Teehee, wasn’t that funny? ” There is a second corollary: you must be tough and “thick-skinned” No matter what you may think of Parker, he’s right. Do you want more participants, or not? Because you aren’t going to get them for any length of time. And you aren’t going to get both.
    Said another way, if you want to let your dogs shit on the furniture in your house, that’s fine. It’s your house. I don’t have to come to your house. If I do, I’ll just stand in the doorway.

  181. Huh? You’ve said exactly nothing. If you want Fat Grannies you know were it’s located. What a pity Rutherford’s isn’t a satellite campus for you.

  182. The city wasa, wasa, wasa wossname. Thing. Woman. Thass what it was. Woman. Roaring, ancient,
    centuries old. Strung you along, let you fall in thingy, love, with her, then kicked you inna, inna, thingy.

  183. Haven’t been by for a couple of days. Work interferes with recreation, doesn’t it? Up early today; lots going on.

    Have you changed your theme, R? Looks very press-like. I use (WordPress) Jarida for several financial websites my company runs; it’s designed primarily as a news-friendly blogging software.


    Have you seen this? Us to recognize same-sex marriage in six more states!

    http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2024874186_apxsamesexmarriage.html

    Who was it, (Hugo?) who said, “Nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come.”?

    Speaking of Hugo, it looks like Les Miserables are still, well miserable. Sometimes coming here makes one realize how good he has it. Thanks.

  184. Dogshit on the couch. Perfect analogy. And the response? “There’s the door.” I love it.

    You know, FN, the highest form of human endeavor is when people with very different fun philosophies can sit together and argue their differences out while never crossing the line of personal attack. You know, for a professed liberal, you ain’t too bad! LOL. Be careful, though, moderation and civility will get you mugged.

    I think you make a very valid point: It’s very easy for a man in authority to hide behind “I’m an even-handed fella, so there are no rules,” when the real problem is, “When it comes to responsibility, I have an even number of balls.” Zero.

    And that odour of dogshit, of course, is why nobody ever gets past looking in his door.

  185. “You pull that shit, I’ll out you too. And I won’t stop at your name. I’ll post your credit history. I’ll post your criminal record. I’ll post your kid’s names. I’ll fight fire with fire. I know virtually every person on this board – including two that don’t like. I won’t “out” them EVER unless they pull the same stunt. You got a problem with that, too bad.

    As far as insulting someone’s family? You insult my Master – in the most insidious ways possible. That is the most sacrosanct thing in my entire life – far more than even my wife and kids. As far as I’m concerned, when I warn you to stop and you don’t do it, there are no rules and everything is on the table.

    That bothers you, stop the insults. You want a war? I’ll give you one.”

    Rutherford – this guy has some serious problems. I was not kidding about Bipolar Disorder and being off his meds.

    Given the litigation climate in your country, if you allow this kind of manure on your blog and don’t do something to tone it down, IANAL, but at least in my country you would be partially held responsible.

    Get a grip, dude.

  186. I think you make a very valid point: It’s very easy for a man in authority to hide behind “I’m an even-handed fella, so there are no rules,” when the real problem is, “When it comes to responsibility, I have an even number of balls.” Zero.

    Be careful calling me “a man in authority” it might go to my head.

  187. Parker, let me put it this way. We’ve got teenage girls on the net trading their Justin Bieber crush for a romantic vision of Jihadists. Compared to that, Tex Taylor mouthing off on a blog is small potatoes.

    If Tex’s brand of extremism is a legal risk to me, I’m pretty sure WordPress will knock me off the airwaves before any lawyers come calling.

    And I’m equally sure despite our political differences I’d have two attorneys (ET and BiC) willing to give me a strong defense. 🙂

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