Fox – Fair and Balanced – Seriously

Far left manifesto Daily Kos beat me to the punch with the headline “Pigs Fly – Megyn Kelly Slams Cheney”.

I was sitting away from the TV when I thought I heard Fox’s Megyn Kelly ask blowhard ex VP Dick Cheney the question any self respecting journalist would have asked him but lacked the guts to. But it could not be. This was Fox, the network that single handedly powers the mechanical heart of Darth Cheney. I had to see it with my own eyes.

Alas, it was true. Dick Cheney, the heartless Tin Man to Bush’s brainless Scarecrow, got his ass handed to him just when he thought he was in his safe place. Since 2009, Bush ’43 has shown nothing but class. It might be modesty about his self-perceived accomplishments or shame about his obvious failures. It matters not. Bush has been a true patriot, honoring the Presidency, if not Obama, with his silence.

The same cannot be said for Dick Cheney, one of the architects of the most expensive and deadly boondoggles in recent history. The man just can’t shut up. His latest pronouncement about Obama in the Wall Street Journal topped all previous examples of arrogant self delusion.

Rarely has a U.S. President been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many.

Megyn Kelly threw his words back in his face, confirming what every honest American already knew.

But time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong as well in Iraq, sir. You said there were no doubts Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. You said we would greeted as liberators. You said the Iraq insurgency was in the last throes back in 2005. And you said that after our intervention, extremists would have to, quote, ‘rethink their strategy of Jihad.’ Now with almost a trillion dollars spent there with 4,500 American lives lost there, what do you say to those who say, you were so wrong about so much at the expense of so many?

Cheney’s answers to Kelly were predictable and not worth inclusion here. Suffice it to say he is unable to accept responsibility for the grave injury he inflicted on his country. The phrase found in much of the coverage of his Op-Ed is “unmitigated gall”.

The bottom line is that in a fifteen minute interview Megyn Kelly transformed Fox News from partisan hackery to serious journalism. She also laid to shame every other network without the balls to put Cheney in his place – to his face.

There are those who say Cheney and his merry band of neo-cons from the dawn of this century shouldn’t even be allowed to spew their bullcrap on TV. I disagree. Bring them on and let’s have more folks like Megyn Kelly expose them for the dangerous fools they are.


For the full Kelly video and more Fox commentary go here.

448 thoughts on “Fox – Fair and Balanced – Seriously

  1. That which gets your support is hilarious.

    All you’ve shown here is that Cheney is a hypocrite, not that he was wrong in his assessment of Obama. That’s a really damn important point that you conveniently overlook.

    I don’t love Cheney, and I certainly don’t like the cabal of neo-cons that swirl around him, but Cheney is no different that Obama, or Holder, or Susan Rice, etc, etc, etc. No. Different.

    So, as you smugly sit back and pat yourself on the back for launching yet another diatribe against an ex-VP who is in no position to do anything anymore, we’ll continue to stare at the blank page where you introspectively hold a POTUS doing as much, or more, damage accountable….

  2. I agree with gorrilla. Cheney is a hyprocite, and his assessment of Obama is basically right. The message was good. The messenger was flawed.

    This incident further supports the reason why Fox is one of the most trusted news sources in the US. It leans to the right, but it tries to be fair and balanced. Your term hack networks better applies to outfits such as NBC and MSNBC.

    You should watch more of Fox News and pay attention.

  3. but Cheney is no different that Obama, or Holder, or Susan Rice, etc, etc, etc. No. Different.

    There is one major difference. Cheney actually is quite intelligent, whether you agree with him, or not.

  4. I once again think this demonstrates how superficial you are, Rutherford. There’s no depth to you. And it defines what you think fair. And to a point, there are some on the right that do the same thing.

    So somebody on FOX News says something that supports your twisted, depraved thinking, and all of the network sudden the finally portrays fair and balanced?

    Well, Chris Matthews the other day actually ripped somebody for calling the Tea Party morons on his show. Said that the statement untrue and challenged it.

    That didn’t change for me one iota that Chris Matthews a liar, fraud and Leftist hack, nor the thought MSNBC is completely fraudulent.

  5. I challenge the whole idea the Iraq War damaged America’s reputation. I think that is just the unholy alliance of American Leftists and Muslim speak – the very people who have controlled the past six years and made things much worse.

    I think the present situation disproves that claim that America’s reputation damaged. Iraq was simply a tool propagandized by the elite and the weak.

    If pacifism was what characterizes reputation, then America right now should be standing above all others on the world stage.


    You didn’t answer this question for me last thread, Rutherford. Perhaps you might want to try again.

    Can you give me one country where our relationship and situation are better since Barack Obama took office?

  6. The message was good. The messenger was flawed.

    Spot on, James, and well put. Personally, Dick Cheney or Don Rumsfield are the wrong people to be carrying the right message.

    Notice that George Bush, a man Rutherford disparaged every minute of every day when I first met him, has suddenly become a man of class?

    And what defines this class? Bush’s silence and refusal to speak.

    This is what Leftists like Rutherford demand of their adversaries. Never to be challenged, never to be criticized, never to be held accountable.

    Obama has proven to be not only a failure by any definition, but a brazen coward.

  7. “There are so many bad things happening right with Obama at the helm.

    So many.”

    DR, this was another predictable post. From my comment yesterday, you can see that I must be psychic. 😆

    I had hoped that some of that introspection would’ve made it’s way in here. Maybe we would see if anything Cheney said Obama would be addressed by our blog host. But of course, nope. This is what we get: another critique of the format and questions — nothing about the underlying issues.

    It smells like blame for Obama’s failures as though he’s not in charge. . . again.

    So, hooray for FOX.

    Now how about all of the situations that are exploding in front of us?

  8. I don’t know what to say about this post. You seem to touch on three or four post plots but build on none of them other than a bizarre epiphany that a Fox persona delivered journalism.I’ll comment on the Cheney stuff.
    I am frustrated by the presentation of the neocon agenda as something new or only as old as the W years. For crying out loud our last two presidents were reelected following the creed.I’m further stymied why Americans seem so intent on focusing on emotions instead of the issues.

    Ones feelings about Cheney who admittedly does nothing to reduce his opponents caricature of him should have some type of firewall that allows one to make detached and logical observations.
    Does Cheney accept that which he hath helped wrought? I get how people want him groveling on hands and knees begging for their forgiveness and he denies them this. I don’t doubt Bush,Cheney and Obama hold pain in their hearts for those lost. That they function daily and with a degree of fervor for what they hold as fundamental views shouldn’t dissuade others from believing this.

    Bottomline our future foreign policy plans cannot be guided by personal bitterness. Truths do not negate other truths. These two points are real and Rutherford you will find this ironic but Obama is as wrapped in those two points as anyone could be.Sure pillory Cheney for his having helped kick the bucket over but Obama cannot be given a pass for his throwing the mop to the floor. I hear a lot lately about how Bidens 2005 positions of sectarian violence and the need for federalism. These were ignored by the Bush WH. Contrary to any vindication to Joe Biden I ask HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU BRING YOUR EARLIER CONCERNS UP TO YOUR PRESIDENT.THE GUY THAT DIDN’T VOTE FOR YOUR POSITION AS A SENATOR.THE GUY THAT EVEN MORE THAN CHENEY HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT TO WHAT YOU FEARED
    His FP re Iraq was/is clearly based in his campaign beliefs. His ego for legacy as well. His is also consistent contrary to his opponents jeers that there must be lower cost ways to deal with the issues. Key to this last one is his recent “can’t play whack a mole” comments.

  9. Tigre,

    I’ve asked this question hundreds of times to a variety of Leftists, and never once has the question been answered. It’s been attacked, ignored, thrown away, deflected etc…but never answered.

    Since people like Rutherford and now Megyn Kelly (I like her show but she’s profoundly arrogant with a nasty streak) are critics of the war, how about an attempt at this question?

    Saddam Hussein was routed decisively in 1991 during the Gulf War. To save his scalp, he signed to a series of U.N. mandates, of which he then thumbed his nose at 16 of them immediately thereafter for well over a decade.

    What is the use of surrender to the American led coalition and facilitated by the U.N. if the mandates are not going to be enforced?

  10. I know exactly what R will latch onto, but there is a much bigger issue here. The question is, is R smart enough to find the blatantly obvious.

    So much for that “improved image” we were promised…

    A Polish news magazine said on Sunday it had obtained a secret recording of Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski, in contention for a senior European Union job, saying that Poland’s relationship with the United States was worthless.

    The Wprost news magazine said the recording was of a private conversation earlier this year between Sikorski and Jacek Rostowski, a member of parliament with the ruling Civic Platform who until last year was finance minister.

    The magazine did not say who recorded the conversation, or how it obtained the recording.

    Aides to Sikorski and Rostowski said they had no immediate comment. A government spokeswoman said it was hard to form a view based on a few excerpts of a conversation, but there might be a comment later.

    According to a transcript of excerpts of the conversation that was published by Wprost on its Internet site, Sikorski told Rostowski: “You know that the Polish-US alliance isn’t worth anything.”

    “It is downright harmful, because it creates a false sense of security … Complete bullshit. We’ll get in conflict with the Germans, Russians and we’ll think that everything is super, because we gave the Americans a blow job. Losers. Complete losers.”

    According to the transcript, Sikorski described Warsaw’s attitude towards the United States using the Polish word “murzynskosc.”
    That derives from the word “murzyn,” which denotes a dark-skinned person and someone who does the work for somebody else, according to the PWN Polish language dictionary.

    The remarks were brief excerpts from a longer conversation between the two men, and it was not immediately clear if Sikorski had made comments elsewhere in the conversation that contradicted those excerpts.

    Prime Minister Donald Tusk said last month that Sikorski would be a natural candidate for the job of the EU’s top diplomat. The role is filled by Catherine Ashton, but may become vacant when a new European Commission is formed.

  11. Tex, you are correct. The problem is the Bush administration didn’t frame the war that way. They framed it has a desperate attempt to stop anthrax from getting into the hands of Al Queda.

    They didn’t have to do that. They could have used the WMD intel as a side note. The defiance of UN mandates was enough.

    The American people were doing a war dance in 2003. They didn’t need speculation that turned out impossible to prove (I’d be willing to bet the WMD went to Damascus).

    Saddam had to go. He should have been replaced with a Mubarek type. Don’t know if this was possible. But I know democracy in Iraq was Utopia of the highest order. The only thing worse is Obam’s anarchy.

  12. I hear you, Tex. It’s frustrating when you have to pander/respond to their emotional needs and revision rather than history/policy or reason. Christopher Hitchens sure got to it. Since the left didn’t like his support for the invasion, that aspect is what they ignored in favor of the other stuff agreeable to them. Just like in talking about Cheney, the focus is on his appearance and attitude rather than substance.

    But one thing I don’t share with you is a dislike for Megyn Kelly. I don’t know if I’ve heard a damn thing she’s ever said ’cause she’s damn hot.

    Uh oh. Is this more of that rape culture our blog host was describing?

  13. I don’t dislike Megyn Kelly. I’m just not sure I would like her if I met her. I was watching a few weeks back when she announced to another female candidate (SD, if memory serves), she’d just lost. The lady didn’t even know. You could see the disappointment flash across her face.

    I thought Kelly came across as smug and smarmy, never apologized for the faux pas (at least she didn’t on the show), and came across as incredibly mean spirited, basically humiliating the woman further.

    I just find Kelly arrogant. But then I find O’Reilly too full of himself too, though his “Killing series” was excellent. My favorites on FOX are Martha MacCallum (a babe in her own right), Bret Baier and Krauthammer. I’m warming to George Will. I turn off the Fox TV when I see Geraldo or John Stossel.

    I had a friend that actually ran with Sean Hannity for a week. Said he’s a good guy – completely normal and a lot of fun.

  14. I can’t listen Hannity. He’s too much of a broken record.

    I also heard about 20 minutes of Glen Beck in a colleague’s car the other day. Puuuuke. That guy’s fake emotion sermonizing is finger nails on a chalkboard to me.

    I like Krauthammer and Will. I wait to read them though. I just don’t watch the drum beat of FOX opinion/commentary much. It’s redundant. I get a bigger kick out of watching the height intellectual dishonesty over at MSNBC. Mrs. Tigre screams at me when it’s on, but I am genuinely amused at how ridiculous they are.

    I see that Gallup (or one of the other big poling outfits) found MSNBC the least trusted news source by miles. Gee, I wonder why.

  15. The problem is the Bush administration didn’t frame the war that way. They framed it has a desperate attempt to stop anthrax from getting into the hands of Al Queda.

    Agree Rabbit. There were a lot of Dims, well documented, that also realized Saddam had WMD – he’d used it. I think what’s being flashed over these thugs in Syria is Saddam’s arsenal. Israeli intelligence warned us. Saddam had months to move it Syria.

    But we didn’t need WMD to justify deposing Saddam – we should have done it in 1991. Elder Bush and that feckless phony Colin Powell blew it. But that’s arm chair quarterbacking. We generally fail on the side of demonstrating mercy. It separates us from the enemy.

    Here’s where I think Dick Cheney, George Bush, and Donald Rumsfield got it wrong.

    The way the war was carried out between the time Saddam deposed and the Surge was pathetic. We helped build a nation for a bunch of animal ingrates and lost a lot of blood while doing so. These head lopping assholes aren’t worth one drop of American blood or taxes, unless we’re there to attempt to kill them. I say let Iraq burn.

    I would respect Cheney more if he would just admit as much – the lot of Iraq and Iran was never suited for a Democracy – they’re savages. For 3,000 years they’ve never understood liberty or freedom. Those words are incompatible with Islamists. We should stop with the bullshit and the political correctness.

    I’ve said numerous times here we fought the war in Afghanistan completely wrong – and I thought that in the winter of 2001. Alliances? These Afghanis would never understand an alliance – they don’t know anything but tribal war. The USSR’s failed the same way.

    We should have utterly destroyed Tora Bora and nuked it out of existence. We had every right and without permission. And then we should have left with a promise if something like 9/11 ever happens again and we tie it to Afghan assistance, we’ll destroy everything that walks, crawls or burrows in that shit hole, leave it uninhabitable, and you won’t see so much as one boot on the ground. They’re destruction will happen from 50,000 feet.

    America had better wake the hell up about what Islam really represents – destruction; a religion completely incompatible with the U.S. Constitution for anyone honest.

  16. I can’t listen Hannity. He’s too much of a broken record.

    I think pretty much of the O’Reilly show. It’s stale. Kelly’s show is better the few times I’ve watched.

    But I’ll tell you when Hannity is worth watching, if you have no life like me when my honey is gone. I watched last Friday Night.

    They get a a panel of different views. It’s excellent. It’s ass ripping. These useful idiots from the Left get it handed to them by the real folks, truly in the know, including a couple of special forces type last week. Truly spectacular viewing. 😈

  17. After Megyn’s skewering things reverted to form and the Cheney spent their time explaining themselves. This seemed more of a setup to allow a new star at Fox to ask a prearranged tough question so that it could be answered on a friendly atmosphere.

    A real skewering would be a congressional investigation of Iraq and a trial at the Hague.

  18. “While I think he does some good work, I’m beginning to think he’s mentally unstable.”

    He sounds like a modern day Howard Beale without the rage to me. His weepy, emotional, quivering preachy shit is so thick it turns really, really creepy fast. Crazy-creepy.

    MSNBC, like the dems, just searches around for wedge issues to exploit. Nothing more. It’s not a legitimate news source nor does it offer worthwhile opinion. Rather than bona fide opposing viewpoints, all of it runs on straw men debate — just like Obama. But it sure gives insight into the mind of the modern liberal (which ain’t much).

  19. It’s not a legitimate news source nor does it offer worthwhile opinion. Rather than bona fide opposing viewpoints, all of it runs on straw men debate — just like Obama.

    Excellent summation and indicator why Rutherford revels in it.

    I haven’t seen a legitimate news story on MSNBC since affirmative action guest host Melissa Harris-Perry wore tampons for earrings and suffered an acute case of encephalitic toxic shock on camera.

  20. Though it doesn’t seem like it at first blush, the SCOTUS delivered a reasonably good outcome based on separation of power/congressional oversight of the EPA unfettered regulatory control over the economic destiny of the country. IMO, the article dismisses the most significant aspects of the decision, i.e. the portions reversing the DC Circuit’s kick to the balls. Hopefully, Congress will be able to correct this nonsense over time.

  21. “After Megyn’s skewering things reverted to form and the Cheney spent their time explaining themselves. This seemed more of a setup to allow a new star at Fox to ask a prearranged tough question so that it could be answered on a friendly atmosphere.” -Ajax

    Oh. So that’s how it works. Is it something different, like a trial, when they appear on MSNBC? Wouldn’t want them to “explain themselves.” We want them shouted at bad-ass O’Donnell style. Now that’s journalism.

    Oh yeah. Opposing viewpoints aren’t favored on MSNBC. Oh well.

    I did see the grilling Bubbles Brzezinski laid on Emperor Obama this morning though. Wow. 🙄

  22. Can you give me one country where our relationship and situation are better since Barack Obama took office?

    I sense there is a need to define terms. What is better? Let’s take the Islamic states. We’re not doing better there because Obama has been Bush-lite. He hasn’t made good on transforming the relationship. Just more drones.

    But on a larger scale, I think the world is changing. Power is spread thinner than it used to be. It’s not the old simple game of US vs USSR or capitalism vs communism. It’s a more nuanced world in which our influence will naturally decrease regardless of the President.

    So again how do you define better? What role should America have in the world?

  23. Notice that George Bush, a man Rutherford disparaged every minute of every day when I first met him, has suddenly become a man of class?

    You’ve got me confused with the average Daily Kos adherent. This place has never been Fat Grannies and I have never been as abusive to Bush as some of my fellow liberals.

    On the contrary I’ve got sympathy for Bush vs animosity for Cheney.

  24. You’ve got me confused with the average Daily Kos adherent. This place has never been Fat Grannies and I have never been as abusive to Bush as some of my fellow liberals.

    The fact you’re a wiser Fat Granny doesn’t mean you were carping, lying, and disparaging the man daily.

  25. What is better? Let’s take the Islamic states. We’re not doing better there because Obama has been Bush-lite. He hasn’t made good on transforming the relationship. Just more drones.

    How quickly you forget Obama’s now infamous Cairo groveling speech, the Clapper assertion the Muslim Brotherhood secular. yada, yada, yada.

    That’s what I thought.

    You can’t name one country where the U.S. relationship more positive as promised.

    And as to the new USSR formation, how’d that reset button work that reset Russia to the Soviet Union? You find that positive too, Chaz?

    You can’t even bring yourself to admit how pathetically weak Obama looks to the rest of the world. Like Whittle said. The ME hated and feared Obama. The ME only hates Obama – while they laugh at him.

  26. A real skewering would be a congressional investigation of Iraq and a trial at the Hague.

    Not a bad idea. This level of gross incompetence by Obama is indeed worthy of a public execution. Eric Holder first, though.

  27. Nearly Half Of Detroit Residents Can’t Pay Water Bills, UN May Be Called In For Help…

    Looks like a job for Huck. LOL!

    Since we pay 22% of the bill for that abomination of a place, maybe the UN can help for a little of the bill for Obama City.

  28. America should maintain its role as the most powerful nation our friends and enemies can depend on to act in certain ways. Part of our decline is by design. Other nations have played the role and others will again.,

    Our position is similar to the unraveling balance of power before 1914. I’m stretching a point, but the fact remains we still behave according to our ancient hunter gather programing.

    Hot chicks, money and brute force control . the world.

  29. Bush has been a true patriot, honoring the Presidency, if not Obama, with his silence.


    Do you actually KNOW some of the things Truman said about his successor?

    Honestly, for as much as he still gets blamed for (never the credit, just the blame), you should chalk it up to more grace and graciousness than Barry the Blessed, and cut your losses.

  30. I think the whole world is worse than it was 6 years ago. I think our policies have helped to make it that way. Most notable are the drone strikes where it is our norm to do a double tap to be sure to get those coming in to help the wounded. A 2 percent success rating with these expensive killing machines. Wow. Yet no one complaints. No one stops the madness. Killing brown people isn’t going to make us more secure and damn sure isn’t any moral way to be.

    Tex is sure it’s Islam that’s evil. If we could only rid the world of Muslims and leftists, Utopia would be here. He’s ready to reenact the crusades with WMDs, and still thinks Saddam had them. We recruited, trained, and armed the forces we claim to be fighting. That’s a well-known fact. There are mercenaries inciting sectarian violence. There are also assassins provided to keep the blood flowing. The media hypes them too. They get all the gore and bump up the fear level. Our threat level is off the charts, according to neo-cons in the know. Those nasty PNAC boys continue to raise their beastly heads, resounding their lies and war cries. Don’t touch the oil and the whine.

  31. We have been fighting a war with Islam for a very long time. Charles Martel staged a notable victory and a major invasion was stopped at the gates of Vienna,.Neither side is pure, but I am rooting for the West because I am not a Muslim. Our war will continue with interruptions until one side defeats or destroys the other.

    Our position is weaker because Bush over extended us and Obama is throwing his gains away in the vain hope that we can negotiate the violence away, Let him put his faith in accomodation into practice by sending Kerry to visit with ISIS. His head will be on a stake.

  32. Tex is sure it’s Islam that’s evil. If we could only rid the world of Muslims and leftists, Utopia would be here. He’s ready to reenact the crusades with WMDs, and still thinks Saddam had them.

    As usual, the American hatin’ moocher and ingrate, apparently at least two generations now, has my message misconstrued.

    Poolman, I double dog dare you where I have ever even mentioned the word “utopia” in the age of grace. I’ve laughed at Rutherford’s rainbow utopia. For one thing, elimination of Muslims would do nothing to eliminate your reprobate filth and false religion.

    That’s why I have a major problem with you and make mockery of you. It’s not your schizophrenia, your ungrateful nature, Himmler like characteristics, or even American oikophobia that I disdain so much.

    It’s that like the Obamas and Clinton, you lie so easily.

    So let me summarize my beliefs of Islam. It’s a false, dangerous and violent religion, characterized by 1,300 of massive bloodshed and failure; it has never known peace; it is falsely advertised; it is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution; it is incompatible with Western Civilization.

    Does that mean I think all Muslims are potential terrorists? No. No more than I think all Christians are good and angelic. But to deny the obvious like Poolman, only makes one an enabler of evil.

  33. By the way, Poolman. There is no debate Saddam had WMD. On at least three occasions he used them on his own people. The only question was had Saddam’s biological and chemical been degraded to the point of no longer endangering us and his neighbors.

    Little fun fact. The Crusades saved Western Civilization. If that’s what you want to refer to my policy, I have no problem with doing just that. But unlike you, I don’t need the Jews persecuted in the process.

  34. Poolman needs to learn a little from the brown people in my parts. Let him hear their Iraq stories. It wont be America they are bashing, that’s for sure.

  35. Been watching MSNBC tonight. Two shows. They are up and arms that a tight Republican primary in Mississippi is courting the black vote. Oh the horror.

    Race race race race race obsessed race race race race race race race obsessed

    Liberals are absolutely obsessed with black people. They act like jealous boyfriends. Aggressive and possessive. Weird shit.

    MSNBC for one evening and my brain is rotting.

  36. What’s your definition of Utopia? I didn’t say heaven or paradise. I don’t have your message misconstrued. I did not say you used the word, but you did infer the concept. You claimed (more than once) to want to split the country in two and live among your mindless like-minded brethren.

    And you’re right, there is no debate Saddam had WMD. He did not. That has been proved. The Brits got to the bottom of it. If you’re talking the gas he got from us and used against the Kurds, then you’re talking about a past history, one when he was our guy, keeping his peeps and Iran in check.

    But Powell told us he had mobile nukes. And amthrax. Remember him holding up the vial of amthrax? lol. Amthrax. That’s a whole ‘nuther lie conveniently forgotten. That whole thing pointed back to us, though blamed on bin Laden.

    You claim the Crusades saved Western Civilization. What did they save it for, capitalism? The problem with your history is your relatives wrote it.

  37. Speaking of mindless Mr. Poolman, you need to get back to cutting and pasting. You’ve reverted back to lack of dependency on spell checker. It happens when you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

    It’s anthrax. Not amthrax, shit for brains. LOL.

    I’m not even going to argue with you about Saddam’s WMD. Would you prefer to live under the Law of Mohammad? I would prefer you live under the rule of Mohammad.

    It would take a concrete blade to saw your head off.

  38. But on a larger scale, I think the world is changing. Power is spread thinner than it used to be. It’s not the old simple game of US vs USSR or capitalism vs communism. It’s a more nuanced world in which our influence will naturally decrease regardless of the President. ” – R

    R, the wall fell in 1987, so you’re about 25 years out of date.

    It hasn’t been a bipolar world in a long time. In fact, you could make the argument that we’re moving into a tripolar environment, between the US, China and Russia, but Obama is doing everything he can to ensure we’re not in a leadership position.

    The thing that gets me is that the typical cop-out of a liberal who has no clue is to say that things are “more nuanced”.

    Do you have a response for #1, or are we already on the sniding back biting comment portion of your “debate” on the issue…

  39. Ahhhhhhhhh, the baby fix….

    “One of the best perks about being president is almost anyone will hand you their baby,” Obama joked before imitating handing off a baby and saying, “Here!”

    “I get this baby fix like, two or three times a week,” Obama said before reflecting on spending time with his own daughters during their infancies.

    Of course, there’s this:

    Former presidential candidate and conservative-values advocate Gary Bauer said President Barack Obama’s legacy should be the fruit of his pro-abortion policies: more killed by abortion than the number of jobs created.

    “This ought to be the epitaph of this administration: In the last five years under this president more babies have been aborted than jobs have been created,” Bauer said on Friday at the Faith and Freedom Coalition’s Road to Majority conference in Washington, D.C.

    “Now that is a good summary of this president,” said Bauer, who is president of the nonprofit American Values. “Few things make Barack Obama more passionate than abortion on demand.”

    Maybe, just maybe, if he spent less time fundraising and campaigning, and focused a wee bit more on ACTUAL job creating policies, well, who am I trying to kid….

    One thing has been abundantly clear during the entirety of this Regime — it has never been about the nation, but it has always been about Obama…

  40. 52 comments; 24 – nearly half – by one post-er. For christ’s sake, get a bloody fucking job.

    Maybe Loose Lucy, resident nickel psychiatrist, could analyze (analize) Rutherford Derangement Syndrome – an unproductive life, filled by posting on Rutherford’s.

    Here’s a leg up: the illegal lawn services are always looking for another Mexican landscaper.

  41. This is what I don’t understand. R, an IT dude, even had his own IT company, worked for IBM for years, is plugged in to the whole IT industry, and here we have this massive IT story going on right now, and he’s deathly quiet.

    What gives R? Why can’t we get a post on this?

    In a stunning admission under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, Koskinen divulged that the IRS made no effort to recover Lerner’s email archive from the six month backups after her initial computer problems in June of 2011.

    Koskinen had informed the committee that emails were not backed-up on a server, but on a tape that recorded emails for only six months.

    So, Chaffetz simply asked, “When Lois Lerner figured out on June 13th (2011) that her computer crashed, and there have been emails showing that she was going to great lengths to try to get that recovered, why didn’t they just go to that six month tape?”

    “Because that six month tape is a disaster recovery tape that has all of the emails on it and is a very complicated tape to actually extract emails for, but I have not seen any emails to explain why they didn’t do it, so it would be difficult, but I don’t know why,” replied the IRS boss.

    “Did anybody try?” asked Chaffetz.

    “I have no idea or indication that they did,” admitted Koskinen.

    An incredulous Chaffetz then recounted, “So you have multiple emails showing she was trying to recover this, it’s the testimony of the IRS that they were trying desperately, in fact you got a forensic team to try to extract this, you went to great lengths, you made a big point over the last week about all the efforts you’re going through, but they were backed up on tape, and you didn’t do it?”

    “As far as I know they did not,” the head of the IRS.

    Earlier, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, made a remark even more pointed than Issa’s accusation of lying, subtly suggesting during a heated exchange that Koskinen himself might come under investigation at some point.

    Noting that the IRS learned about the loss of nearly two year’s worth of Lerner’s emails back in February, but had not informed Congress until ten days ago, Jordan wondered out loud, “At one point does it become obstruction of justice?”

    “After days, weeks, or months?”

    When Jordan complained that the IRS informed Congress by burying the announcement of the missing emails on page 7 of a lengthy document on a Friday, Koskinen corrected him, saying it was page 5.

    “Page 5!” Jordan yelled in mock-amazement, causing laughter to ripple through the hearing room. “Ridiculous,” he added.

    Jordan also asked why Koskinen did not inform the FBI or the Justice Department of such an important find in a major investigation.

    The IRS chief said that was because criminal charges had not been filed.

    Issa later reminded him, for the record, that the Ways and Means Committee had referred four criminal counts against Lerner to the Justice Department.

  42. If the IRS uses Sonasoft products to backup their servers why wouldn’t you choose them to protect your severs?

    12:40 PM – 9 Oct 2009

    Retweet Dead Rabbit #FuckingIronic #HangLois

    You know what MSNBC doesn’t talk about? Dead veterans or the hubris of the IRS.

    Nope…the story of the night was the Mississippi Republican primary.

    Yesterday it was also revealed that they physically altered death records of vets.

    And since MSNBC didn’t talk about the latest hearings on the IRS, I had to scour YouTube for some snippets.

    Rutherford……you admittedly don’t leave the apartment. At least leave a boob tube channel for the youtube channel. You are not being remotely informed over there.

    Its shocking how in the dark you are.

  43. This is a real jewel from the testimony…

    When the subject of Sonasoft came up during the hearing, Issa asked Koskinen why the IRS did not have a reliable backup system.

    The IRS chief said the estimated cost of $10-to-30 million was too much.

    Expressing disbelief, Issa said, given the IRS’s $1.8 billion IT budget, should that not have been a priority?

    “If we had the right resources, there would be a lot of priorities,” testily retorted Koskinen.

    However, Rep. Scott DesJarlais, R-Tenn. pointed out that $10-to-30 million was not much compared to the $89 million the IRS paid in bonuses last year, including $1 million to employees who actually owed back taxes.


    Dear God, this would be hilarious if it wasn’t so damn serious…

  44. G, its amazing isn’t? Rutherford is an IT guy.

    Ask Rutherford about inside baseball politics of the Mississippi and Missouri GOP primaries. He’s all over that shit.

    I am completely baffled why Rutherford bothers penning a political blog.

  45. Issa’s opening last night was interesting. That worm who received 500 million in IT contracts from the IRS due to his injury in prep school he somehow passed off as a military related injury to game the system (Duckworth famously destroyed him) beat to death his wife?


  46. I like Poolman’s ironic question. Did we save our selves from islam to promote capitalism? Poolman is a capitalist, a small businessman. He should be grateful. “your relatives wrote it’ is a good line.

    Thor Shrak is another small businessman who builds and sells computers. He has a radio talk show on KFAB which is non-political. He said it is very hard to lose hard drive information unless one wants to lose it. He could only think of two unlikely ways.

    The “occupying regime” is hiding something. If MSNBC doesn’t talk about dead veterans or the IRS it is because they don’t care unless Republicans did it. Are they talking about the current wave of alien children? Someone in the regime had advance knowledge of the migration and made arrangements before the movement. Venders were contacted.

  47. 52 comments; 24 – nearly half – by one post-er. For christ’s sake, get a bloody fucking job.

    Now bloke (cough cough). Let’s be nice. You cut me to the bone, swinger.

    It was raining here yesterday which kind of stopped my project. And I was bored. And I was backing up my pictures to my service provider.

    Those 24 comments probably took me less than an hour to type.

    I just don’t have that fulfilling life you do – counting the number of comments and masturbating while filming your wife riding the simian’s cock. Provides great ideas for the romance novels to market.

  48. James, I watched two hours of prime time MSNBC. Not one word about Obama’s refugee children at the border. Not one word about dead veterans. Nothing on the IRS.

    They did report on the new Al Queda Caliphate. Briefly

    I’m convinced liberals like Rutherford are part of the problem.

    Because of a class of people who consider themselves politically informed yet are choosing to ignore these cover ups due to their partisan lust, these things are always framed as partisan problems. This allows the corrupt state to stonewall and even now and then have some asshole in the Democratic Party stick up for them.

    It sucks.

    We all know the list. From a dead ambassador to mass graves at the Mexican border. From dead military veterans to the IRS attacking freedom, the state always wins.

    Why the cover ups? Sometimes only for minimal gains in political polls.

    The Obama administration will let people fucking die for a few Gallop Poll points. Think about that.

    Rutherford and his friends are hurting people.

  49. The problem with your history is your relatives wrote it. Best comment of the night next to the one about The Hague.

    Gorilla. You don’t really expect “R” to answer a question, do you? He incapable of providing a serious answer.

    When a man believes Poolman an accurate source of history, and after telling us Bush has been nothing but class then nominates some imbecile’s comment about taking Cheney (and Bush by association) to the Hague as best comment?

    Rutherford isn’t a terribly bright man, fair man, serious man.

    I think Ajax and Poolman are about Rutherford’s pedigree.

  50. “Here’s a leg up: the illegal lawn services are always looking for another Mexican landscaper.” -Pfessor

    That isn’t true. Lawn service jobs are white people jobs around my parts just as much as they are illegal aliens. I have two good buddies who count on mowing lawns to feed their families.

    Mowing lawns have allowed them a middle class life, here.

    Hell….I mow a few lawns in the summer for money!

    I get that there are jobs white people wont do (blacks wont do hardly any labor, that is another story). But landscaping ain’t one of them in my part of the country. Remember, my generation never got the auto jobs they were counting on.

    Isn’t your son a grown man living at home? These illegals are taking opportunity away from him to be independent. Good paying work while he goes to school. (I remember You said you signed him up for computer classes)

    I never would have made it without gaining employment as a roofer. Another job these illegals are stealing.

  51. Anthrax, amthrax. Woe is me. I must have an amtrak mind. What difference at this point does it make?

    Since you’re being so helpful with my spelling, let me return the favor. Here’s a few of your grammar faux pas you neglected to post corrections. There are more, but as examples, these two will suffice:

    “…and all of the network sudden the finally portrays fair and balanced?”

    “Sorry, that was a question to “R”…”

    Ahem. Questions generally contain one or more of these > ?

    But seriously, now that we have corrected its spelling, let’s talk about its significance. Have you ever followed the 911 anthrax threat to its conclusion? Now that is how you pose a question. And like the bulk of the questions I post, it won’t get addressed.

  52. I agree, rabbit people like Rutherford and people who refuse to vote against the power structure because the alternative is flawed gave us what we have now.

    You mentioned illegals are “stealing” various jobs Ironically in localized areas around here Ukrainians are “stealing” jobs from Hispanics, Some in the UK call them blond Mexicans because they work hard and out compete native workers..

  53. Funny you say that. My father in law used to call Mexicans “Smoked Pollocks”.

    Now my father in law can’t really talk or do anything else for that matter. 62 years old and he is retarded when he isn’t psychotic.

    He’s a handful.

    If I get diagnosed with early dementia I would consider offing myself.

  54. Poolman, this was no simple oversight – you misspelled the Key Word time and again. 😈

    If someone is a Jew hater like you (you still haven’t figured out what Jesus was – another massive disconnect you can’t recognize like Building 7), and spells Israel as ISREAL over and over, I immediately recognize a poseur.

    That one doesn’t apply to you, but it does apply to your hillbilly, goosestepping shiners you consider like-minded church kin. It’s not hard to figure out the who and the what I’m debating here.

    Same with you and AMTHRAX.

    I have no doubt had you been military, you’d be Bowe Bergdahl. A little psychotic, a little deluded, perhaps a little paranoid, and a whole lot ungrateful. As I stated the other day – a special category of snake belly ingrate. You’re the kind of dog that once fed by the owner, then immediately walks in and shits on living room carpeting – sometimes while you’re eating before going back for more food. Nobody needs a dog like that.

    We’ve got Christians all over this globe being killed by these animals you propagandize for, some whose lineage spans back over 1,900 years in the land, some estimate over one million killed last year alone, and who do you the PROFESSED Christian condemn?

    Christians. You’re a party to evil, Poolman.

    It’s hard for me to chalk up your aiding and abetting the enemy as simple stupidity. I think you’re more Judas like.

  55. Have you ever followed the 911 anthrax threat to its conclusion?

    Let me guess?

    A U.S. government conspiracy, assisted by the Mossad, so that we could conduct mass killings of innocent Muslims and declare war to the benefit of the American military war machine and the capitalists who manufacturer the machines?

    Let me offer some advice if I could. Your questions generally are not addressed because your reputation precedes you.

    Your questions fall in two categories. Either they are so leading, the answer already obvious (see above); or they so ludicrous, most sane people would be embarrassed to take a stab at answering them.

  56. “Smoked pollock” I like the fish Now I will think of illegal Mexican immigrants. Bad rabbit. ha

    Lori Storm of Free Nebraska is a radio announcer in Gordon and Valentine. She is publicizing a federal land grab similar in effect to what happened in Nevada. The government wants to take part of the Pine Ridge Reservation. This will financially hurt the tribe. The government has earlier taken land along the Niobrara River. under pretenses similar to what has happened along the Red River in Texas and Oklahoma and also New Mexico.

    She said her organization suspects it is part of the UN’s Agenda 21 because the land taken matches one of their planning maps. That conspiracy is more up Poolman’s ally than mine. Ranchers by the Niobrara have been given a year to move off the land. The government said” take our price or we will condemn it. ”

    Indians and ranchers plan to demonstrate at Pine Ridge tomorrow.The Indians and ranchers say they “will stand, and they will fight,” Tomorrow is the anniversary of Custer’s Last Stand. Shades of Bundy in Nevada.,

    Save the South Unit on Facebook is another source she gave.

    My father worked with the Arizona border patrol for a couple summers when he was in college. They had fire fights even back in the 1920’s. He and his compatriots lived off the land. They called their advisories “wet backs.”

    If I thought I was losing it, I might to the same, rabbit.

  57. Re: Trey Gowdy @ #52 – Devastating.

    I want to see Lois Lerner and now that smug Democratic donor Koskinen behind bars. This is early 20th century Europe madness coming to America. Corrupt leaders, corrupt high level law enforcement, corrupt bureaucrats and agencies, corrupt and unprofessional media. And a lazy, unread, unknowing, NEWSLESS public obsessed with celebrity they think is social consciousness.

  58. Doubt you are going to find the word “regime” chuckle worthy if the Republicans win the White House and the Senate and we start facilitating and implementing the law and the Constitution the way Obama has.

    The law is what we say…

    Republicans can do so with my blessing.

  59. Two things G. I don’t believe a link between Lois Lerner and the White House will ever be established but Lerner’s taking the fifth obviously incriminates the IRS.

    Second, it is BECAUSE I worked for IBM for 24 years that I know the plausibility (not probability) of the emails being lost forever. People (not you necessarily) think IT is magic. The fact is tapes DO get recycled. Hard drives are NOT always recoverable. Retention practices CAN be inadequate or just NOT followed.

    The understandable source of anger for Joe Sixpack is that the org that would put his balls in a vise for lost receipts, can’t keep track of its own stuff.

  60. Muffy, I’ll guarantee you that not one Fascist Criminal Leftist or Dominionist Caliphate on this board will ever address the video in #52.

    Thank you for reminding me to thank Mr. Gorilla for that critique of a clear cover up nothing burger.

  61. Second, it is BECAUSE I worked for IBM for 24 years that I know the plausibility (not probability) of the emails being lost forever. People (not you necessarily) think IT is magic. The fact is tapes DO get recycled. Hard drives are NOT always recoverable.

    Pathetic attempt at a cover up for a cover up. Anyone who knows anything about email realizes emails reside on an exchange server.

    If a server crashed or was recycled, not one person, not six people, but everyone involved in the entire domain would have lost their email.

    Sorry Rutherford. In an organization as big as the IRS, I can virtually guarantee they are using distributed servers. I can go back right now and retrieve emails I posted in 1998.

  62. “Not a smidgen of evidence . . .”

    I argue a spoliation claim at least annually. The destroyed data in the face of the subpoena is the issue at this point. The IRS response is not acceptable at all — and, as though pleading fifth amendment protection weren’t enough, is in itself evidence of wrongdoing.

    Nothing burger my ass.

  63. Tigre, I become more impressed with this Trey Gowdy “dude” every day.

    I take it he was a prosecutor of a sort? Because he just ripped that lying Leftist a new asshole and made him look a putz. 😛

  64. “The fact is tapes DO get recycled. Hard drives are NOT always recoverable.”

    Ten days after the investigation began, Lerner’s computer crashes and the hard drive is destroyed. Along with six others. Why did they not halt the recycling of the tapes – which would have the data preserved for six months?

    I smell an “if, then” non-argument coming.

  65. Tex, I understand he was a prosecutor, and a good one. But that was shooting fish in a barrel. Really.

  66. Sure….I understand, Tigre. Still, I was impressed with approach. Here’s a physician that does a pretty good job too of demonstrating Koskinen a liar and buffoon. The bald-head Gollum lookalike is getting it from all sides.

    That’s almost orgasmic.

  67. #44 & #47 weren’t too shabby either Tex. Well worth the read. Especially #47.

    With regard to Amtrak, I take Amtrak quite a bit and never anymore to save the $. I just prefer the mode to driving and air travel. It ticks me off to pay so much for a ride. Fifty bones just to get a jump over the Wisconsin border and back.

    I rode to New Orleans in a sleeping car a few years ago and the price was almost exactly the same as an airline ticket.

  68. “I argue a spoliation claim at least annually. The destroyed data in the face of the subpoena is the issue at this point. The IRS response is not acceptable at all — and, as though pleading fifth amendment protection weren’t enough, is in itself evidence of wrongdoing.”


  69. I once recovered years of un-backed up digital photos – kids stuff, irreplaceable – by sticking the hard drive in the freezer and then hooking it up and dumping the data off before it warmed up. Took a few tries to get everything but I got it all.

    I’m not saying drives can’t be lost, I’m just bragging about my mad IT skillz.

  70. To be fair to Rutherford, let me take one of Obama’s more truthful sycophantic stooges, he may have slipped in doing so, and see what he says about Obama’s Iraq policy. It seems to say it better than Rutherford attempted to.


    Yes, the Iraq War was a disaster of historic proportions. Yes, seeing its architects return to prime time to smugly slam President Obama while taking no responsibility for their own, far greater, failures is infuriating.

    But sooner or later, honest liberals will have to admit that Obama’s Iraq policy has been a disaster. Since the president took office, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has grown ever more tyrannical and ever more sectarian, driving his country’s Sunnis toward revolt. Since Obama took office, Iraq watchers—including those within his own administration—have warned that unless the United States pushed hard for inclusive government, the country would slide back into civil war. Yet the White House has been so eager to put Iraq in America’s rearview mirror that, publicly at least, it has given Maliki an almost-free pass. Until now, when it may be too late.

    Obama inherited an Iraq where better security had created an opportunity for better government. The Bush administration’s troop “surge” did not solve the country’s underlying divisions. But by retaking Sunni areas from insurgents, it gave Iraq’s politicians the chance to forge a government inclusive enough to keep the country together. . . .

    For the Obama administration, however, tangling with Maliki meant investing time and energy in Iraq, a country it desperately wanted to pivot away from. A few months before the 2010 elections, according to Dexter Filkins in The New Yorker, “American diplomats in Iraq sent a rare dissenting cable to Washington, complaining that the U.S., with its combination of support and indifference, was encouraging Maliki’s authoritarian tendencies.”

    As Glenn Reynolds noted, “That Obama and the Dems might have to deal with the resulting mess apparently wasn’t considered.” 😈

  71. Since pleading the fifth is roughly an admission of criminal wrongdoing with the details from the mouth of the accused deemed inadmissible, how anyone can call the IRS scandal without a “smidgen” of corruption or a “nothing burger” is beyond me. And now we have the destruction of evidence.

    Oh, I forgot. The real issue is whether the 501 organizations should be allowed to exist. Or at least the conservative/tea party ones. 🙄

  72. “The understandable source of anger for Joe Sixpack is that the org that would put his balls in a vise for lost receipts, can’t keep track of its own stuff.” -Rutherford

    Yeah….just unsophisticated Joe Sixpack. Silly Joe, expecting a bit of professionalism out of an organization that has the power to ruin your life.

    I keep waiting for Wesley Snipes to fly into that place with his “Blade” and bite into that bald motherfucker’s forehead like a Honey Crisp Apple.

    At the very, very, very least, the IRS is a total clusterfuck.

    You have to be the most trusting…what is the term you like….oh yeah…”punk” to think this isn’t a cover up.

    If that was me representing the IRS, I would be apologizing non stop and giving my word that I am going to clean the shit hole up.

    Those motherfuckers ruin people with their labyrinth of tax code. And these same scum bags can’t come up with the emails we need to find which of our overlords were in on this Orwellian weirdness? And then hide that fact…blowing off people defending fellow Americans from persecution?

    Remember those sick questions, Rutherford?
    How weird they were?

    And you wonder why people fight you tooth and nail. Forget about the cost, for a moment. You liberals don’t give a flying fuck about the quality of government. Not a flying fuck. You don’t even want to talk about it. If you do, you make excuses to the point of embarrassing yourselves.

    But man….to lecture us on how the state needs to grow.

    I am a huge Tiger fan. You know how I usually talk about the Tigers? I bitch! Non stop. Bitch bitch bitch. I’ve even showed up to Comerica Park in January to bitch at Dave Dombrowski. And I love the man! You are a Government fan. Start bitching, asshole!

  73. “how anyone can call the IRS scandal without a “smidgen” of corruption or a “nothing burger” is beyond me. ” T

    Its going to be hard for me to care when the shoe is on the other foot. I suppose that defines a corrupt state.

    If they would just take some ownership.

    How they expect on the one hand to bloat government and on the other to treat all problems with said bloated government as merely something to hide in order to defuse immediate public scorn has it doomed right out of the box.

    I know I’m probably stating the obvious here…..but for some reason I’ve never truly wrapped my mind around the design flaws of Rutherford’s ideology until now.

  74. “I’ve never truly wrapped my mind around the design flaws of Rutherford’s ideology until now.”

    Obviously, neither has he.

  75. I am watching Charles Krauthammer and George Will absolutely overwhelm the insufferabl stupid Juan Williams in a discussion of the IRS scandal. George Will just made a beautiful case as to why this is Watergate and Lerner should be granted immunity to go after President Reset and his bootlickers. But even Nixon didn’t have ten other scandals going on simultaneously.

    It reminds me much like when Tigre, Rabbit, Gorilla, and Muffy “debate” Rutherford. LOL A consistent ass stomping.

    The Swingin’ Aussie Doctor accuses me of RDS.

    Quite the contrary, what is most appealing is viewing the trainwreck in the making.

  76. Over. The. Top.
    And waaay off base.
    But I’ve come to expect as much. I’ll let time work it out for you.

  77. Rutherford.

    On a lighter note, Tex once again cast his ballot once every few years for a registered Dimocrat – district judge, mind you.

    Kurt’s a good guy, one of the very rare Dims that are (my wife being the other though she hasn’t voted for a Dim in 40 years). They may loathe the crook Obama even more than Tex, if that humanly possible.

    I just wanted you to know how genuinely fair I really am. 😈

  78. Oh, and to show you I’m even more level headed than I am given credit for at our bar, I did vote for the man to replace Dr. Tom as Senator against Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin’s endorsement.

    Say hello to Senator James Langford, whose entire campaign commercial was based on taking Imam Obama, possible out, God willing. Take a trip down memory lane, when the asshole Obama made his one and only trip to Oklahoma and nobody but Dims showed up. LOL!!!! Our Gov. and representatives went golfing and such.

    Obama is truly beloved around these parts. Right there with Hugo Chavez.

    The reprehensible Graychin might now be the last remaining godless Prog in the great state of Oklahoma, since I suspect Yeller Pee Hound died some ignominious death some time back.

    I was tempted to vote for the black Republican just to spite you and Obama. 😉 T.W. Shannon was not a bad candidate.

    And of course holding to Taylor Postulate #1, I find myself rooting for Vanderbilt over Virginia in college baseball. Why?

    Because Tennessee voted for Mitt Romney. 🙂 Life has become so simple.

  79. Oh, bloke (cough cough). Today, I posted 17 comments, including this one. As of this moment, that would mean I posted 32.08% of the posts accumulated today.

    And I still managed to vote, wash one car, mow the lawn, prune the bushes and my tomato plants, go to the grocery store, walk the dog (twice), help my communist neighbor move her bird bath, answer a question about her new bathtub including tightened to joints, talk to my mom once, my sister once, my oldest once, and mom three times. And I got a pizza. 😮

    I just thought you would want to know the details and determine whether my schedule met your high expectations.

  80. I always vote libertarian for weird positions I have no idea what the job is or who the people are. I figure I want to keep it that way and libertarian might be my best bet.

    After Obama, I will never vote for a Democrat again in my life.

    I would rather have an moron Republican then seemingly a decent Democrat just for the fact we can be assured the media will keep a Republican honest.

    If Obama was a Republican there is no way in hell he gets away with this shit. He would be impeached. I’m convinced of it.

    I think Obama proves its harder for Republicans to get away with being corrupt. I will even go far as to say that the rank and file Republicans ditch blatantly corrupt assholes a little faster then disgusting Democrats. Liberals vote dirty. For crackheads even. Over and over.

    And a minority Democrat? Forget about it. The worst. Teflon. Black politicians have a pass to be utter clowns. I’ve seen it my whole life. Laughing stock type shit. Always playing their race card and working the Hood Rats into a frenzy during times of desperation just like Arab tyrants do over Israel.

    The country is always better off with a Republican as President because it awakens the media to do their job. Same for governors.

    Picture the magnify glass Romney would have been under. Dude wouldn’t be able to get away pissing on the toilette seat. That’s healthy.

    Maybe its sad it has become so simple for me. I don’t know.

    Obama has showed me just how susceptible to demagogues this country is and man are we hurting because of it.

    Reading Rutherford’s early blog posts back when Obama was his “JFK” is textbook scary shit. On what grounds was the man his JFK? None. It was blind hero worship. Because of fiery speeches? Nazi think.

    Of course now its just blind. Literally. Rutherford nods off to his MSNBC opiates. Ego and the feeling of belonging too strong. But still dangerous nonetheless.

    I wouldn’t vote for myself if I ran as a Democrat.

    These are very dark times.

  81. I am frazzled as hell. Bought a new car to replace the new car I didn’t like. Made me late to work so I went hungry. Just discovered my daughter busted her headphones because she insists on sleeping while listening to ipod. Couldn’t read her the riot act cos she’s asleep.

    Buying a car is always emotional for me. I shoulda taken the night off. I’m wiped.

  82. Two things G. I don’t believe a link between Lois Lerner and the White House will ever be established but Lerner’s taking the fifth obviously incriminates the IRS.
    Second, it is BECAUSE I worked for IBM for 24 years that I know the plausibility (not probability) of the emails being lost forever. People (not you necessarily) think IT is magic. The fact is tapes DO get recycled. Hard drives are NOT always recoverable. Retention practices CAN be inadequate or just NOT followed.
    The understandable source of anger for Joe Sixpack is that the org that would put his balls in a vise for lost receipts, can’t keep track of its own stuff.
    ” – R

    But wine-cooler R understands and gets it…. Hey Boones Farm, this shit is serious and you, of all people on this board, should be pretty damn upset considering that you know better. There is one hell of an effort to ensure that any link between the WH and Lerner never gets exposed, now isn’t there. Why should we not make this assessment?

    ~ IRS allowed evidence that would prove innocence OR GUILT, to be lost.

    ~ The main suspect plead the Fifth, because they feared whatever they might say would incriminate them. Hmmmmm

    If this was the Bush Administration instead of the Obama Regime, I’d bet dollars to donuts that every fabric of your nearly three decades worth of IT ‘experience and expertise’ would be on display, as you’d have a post demonstrating the multiple forensic IT procedures and capabilities to recover this information. This, of course, would be closely followed by a Piss-pot-esk political conspiracy demonstration of the Bush Administrations clear efforts to cover up a crime and the need to punish them on the blatantly obvious crime. Guilty until proven innocent, blah, blah, blah…

    But Obama? The Chicago Jesus breaks a few laws and its crickets from Captain IT…. And I’M dogmatic…

    Riddle me this, considering that you clearly did not read #55:

    So, Chaffetz simply asked, “When Lois Lerner figured out on June 13th (2011) that her computer crashed, and there have been emails showing that she was going to great lengths to try to get that recovered, why didn’t they just go to that six month tape?”

    Because that six month tape is a disaster recovery tape that has all of the emails on it and is a very complicated tape to actually extract emails for, but I have not seen any emails to explain why they didn’t do it, so it would be difficult, but I don’t know why,” replied the IRS boss.

    It was hard, so they didn’t try. That is what we have been told by the IRS, and that is what you expect us to buy and accept. Do I really need to tell you how tall this stack of bullshit is?

    ~ 10 days after Congress begins investigating, Lerner and six others involved, suddenly experience catastrophic hard drive crashes, which deletes 2 years worth of emails, which they were legally required to archive and save.

    ~ Recognizing that Lerner and these others are under investigation by Congress, and that charges had been passed to the Attorney General, the IRS REFUSES to make an attempt to recover the emails, and then forcibly reformats and recycles the recovery tapes.

    ~ The IRS refuses to notify Congress of the lost emails until after they have notified the Treasury Department and the WH, ensuring collusion on the story of the lost emails.

    You may disagree with how I’ve worded those bullets, but you have NO ARGUMENT AGAINST IT. That is what the spoilage argument is about. Because they REFUSED to recover the emails, the jury—you, me, Congress—are to assume the worst, and the worst is that this was deliberately done to destroy evidence of a crime.

    I don’t think you truly appreciate the gravity of this. We’re suppose to accept the word of a known law-breaker (Obama)? We’re suppose to accept the word of a known partisan actor and apparent law breaker (Koskinen)? We’re suppose to accept the word of a known idiot (Rutherford)?


    As for regime:

    Regime – a government, especially an authoritarian one.

    Authoritarian – 1. favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom. 2. an authoritarian person.

    Am I wrong?

  83. The consensus is: it’s no accident. More than three-quarters of voters — 76 percent — think the emails missing from the account of Lois Lerner, the ex-IRS official at the center of the scandal over targeting of conservative groups, were deliberately destroyed.

    That’s according to a new Fox News poll.

    That suspicion is shared across party lines, albeit to varying degrees. An overwhelming 90 percent of Republicans think the emails were intentionally destroyed, as do 74 percent of independents and 63 percent of Democrats.

    Overall, just 12 percent of voters believe the emails were destroyed accidentally. Another 12 percent are unsure.

  84. Rutherford, I feel the same about buying cars. The train killed our new car in August, and it took us until October to buy another. I also didn’t like buying tractors and combines.

    I agree with Gorilla.

    Rush Limbaugh uses the term ” regime” because a Democrat described Bush’s administration that way. Sami singer Sofia Jannok calls the Swedish government “the regime” because of its policies against her people. She also calls the government the “occupying regime.” Her rational is the government fails to live up to its ideals and is behaving like an occupying power. The Obama administration fits the description.

    Chris Christi and Scott Walker? Say What?

  85. The next election will tell us if our nation is ready for a revolution similar to the one we have produced on Rutherford’s blog.

    “Way up north there is a sky concealing the whitest lie. Don’t let them win. We all know the world needs coloring. Revolution’s coming near…These seven hard years feel like nine. Revolution sure is coming. You’ll hear, the lakes are singing,”

    “Maybe someone will listen The thunder of three heavens between two lungs.”

    Sofia Jannok

  86. “Four words: Chris Christie Scott Walker.” You forgot Nixon and Reagan. WTF???

    Rutherford is a predictable parrot. Scott Walker has become the Left’s new bogeyman, which of course, indicates he’s doing great things.

    Rutherford’s greatest use for me, besides providing a forum to meet the internet buds, is a wonderful predictor the upcoming Lefty meme. This is straight out of WAPO Pravda and Moonbats Spewing Nothing But Crap country.

    Polly wanna cracka?

  87. The Daily Telegraph reported that ISIS had captured Saddam Hussein’s chemical weapons stock pile. Hundreds of tons of chemical weapons now belong to the richest terrorist organization in the world,

    US officials said the chemicals would be ineffective and hard to move. How do they know when they didn’t even know such weapons existed?

  88. I used to be a huge car enthusiast. All the women in my extended family would drag me along to the car lot to ‘negotiate.’ LOL That probably designated me the nastiest maximus in the family. Surprise, surprise.

    I’d start out nice enough. Then these low lifes would start in with the canned lines about how they were doing us a favor, the demand for their product, typical baloney we’ve all heard. After that, the gloves would come off.

    I adopted the Vince Lombardi school of teaching. I treated them all the same. Like dogs. I had this one yahoo so flustered he put his cigarette in his mouth backwards and lit the filter. 😈

    Even my own sweet mom used to snicker behind my back at the remarks.

    I can remember only one time I failed. Ironically, it was for my old man. Just didn’t hold enough cards in the negotiation. They practically ran us off the lot.

  89. US officials said the chemicals would be ineffective and hard to move. How do they know when they didn’t even know such weapons existed?

    James!!!! You know better than to bring the obvious questions up here. That story doesn’t fit the narrative of Bush Lied! People Died! You should be ashamed of yourself for humiliating the Leftists like that.

    Have you noticed that the Left hasn’t been quite as vocal the last 4 or 5 days about the false pretenses of the Iraq War?

    Wonder why?


  90. Destroying evidence and lying about it is sop in all government agencies. CYA is their golden rule. The CIA destroyed 92 tapes of ‘terrorist’ interrogations, and no one got in trouble for it. The FAA manager destroyed a tape made by air traffic controllers on 911, even though a transcription wasn’t made of it.

    It is totally ridiculous to claim these emails are lost, when we know what we do about all virtual conversations today. As was pointed out, email accounts do not originate and remain on a single hard drive. Most email accounts exist on host servers accessed through the internet. Everything today is also routed through the NSA’s main hub, where a copy of all correspondence is stored. Snowden proved that. Our entire society is built on lies. Deception and lying is sop from the greatest to the least in government. It’s time to throw Bo Bo out with the bathwater.

  91. More on the manufactured war on of terror…

    Key members of ISIS it now emerges were trained by US CIA and Special Forces command at a secret camp in Jordan in 2012, according to informed Jordanian officials. The US, Turkish and Jordanian intelligence were running a training base for the Syrian rebels in the Jordanian town of Safawi in the country’s northern desert region, conveniently near the borders to both Syria and Iraq. Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the two Gulf monarchies most involved in funding the war against Syria’s Assad, financed the Jordan ISIS training.

    Advertised publicly as training of ‘non-extremist’ Muslim jihadists to wage war against the Syrian Bashar Assad regime, the secret US training camps in Jordan and elsewhere have trained perhaps several thousand Muslim fighters in techniques of irregular warfare, sabotage and general terror. The claims by Washington that they took special care not to train ‘Salafist’ or jihadist extremists, is a joke. How do you test if a recruit is not a jihadist? Is there a special jihad DNA that the CIA doctors have discovered?

    Former US State Department official Andrew Doran wrote in the conservative National Review magazine that some ISIS warriors also hold US passports. Now, of course that doesn’t demonstrate and support by the Obama Administration. Hmm…

    Iranian journalist Sabah Zanganeh notes, “ISIS did not have the power to occupy and conquer Mosul by itself. What has happened is the result of security-intelligence collaborations of some regional countries with some extremist groups inside the Iraqi government.”

  92. This is a must read.

    If anyone is truly interested in foreign events, historical significance and how they impact us, then you’ll read this. There is a clear and present danger brewing. And it will directly affect everybody that participates in this blog.

    And I would most recommend it to Poolman so that he might learn something about how things really work, instead of the latest loon conspiracy.

    Obama’s World Disorder

  93. So G you would agree the Patriot Act made the Bush admin a regime, right? Just want to make sure we have consistent definitions.

    There is little doubt Lerner is guilty of SOMETHING. Since the higher up’s are making excuses there is little doubt the IRS to the highest level wants to protect themselves.

    All that said, you still have heavy lifting to do to connect this to the White House.

  94. Question for Tigre (and BiC if he’s still lurking). What is the point of the fifth amendment if all it does is basically confirm guilt? I’m unfamiliar with the history of the amendment and its philosophical underpinnings.

  95. Tex maybe I read too much into Pool’s comment but I simply read it as history is written by the victor. I don’t think that’s hard to agree with.

  96. Tex unless the company you worked for was incredibly anal, there is zero trace of your old emails from the 80’s and 90’s. Exchange servers (or Lotus Notes servers) likely get backed up to tape and the tapes eventually go off site to a storage facility. Then it all comes down to retention practices. I suspect many companies are opting for shorter retention, not longer, because as my old boss used to say “if it’s not written down, it doesn’t exist.”

  97. Actually, in the case of the Crusades, it’s being rewritten by the aggressor who lost. And many on the Left are too dumb to know it.

    Others like Poolman wish it true to justify his narrative and hate for America.

    I’m not even sure how to classify Poolman anymore (besides kook).

    Is there such a thing as Pacifist Anarchist? 😛

  98. R, it’s constitutional of course. The point is different in different situations. In a criminal case, a jury is not permitted (instructed) that a defendant’s exercise of the right does not imply guilt.

    However, Lois Lerner’s situation is different (civil context). She hasn’t been charged with a crime therefore, to invoke the protections, she necessarily must have a belief that the testimony could be used against her if she were later charged with a crime in order. So you can assume she believes that her testimony could be used to determine guilt of something. Hers is Congressional testimony in connection with its fact finding functions. She’s not been placed in jeopardy of criminal penalties — yet.

    As for philosophical underpinnings, use Google. There’s more than can be typed out in a blog comment and I really don’t think you care.

  99. You forgot Nixon and Reagan.


    Sometimes my comment is so obvious that I wonder if your not getting it is just deliberately obtuse.

    Christie still hadn’t shaken “Bridgegate” and Walker may be involved in campaign fund raising abuses.

    Clearly, as Rabbit said, these men chose the straight and narrow to avoid liberal media scrutiny. 🙄

  100. Rutherford…

    You must not understand distributed servers then. Storage is dirt cheap. Real cheap, easily restored, and readily available. The IRS themselves requires each of us to keep three years worth of records.

    My old company had electronic business records all the way back to the 60s and 70s.

    But we’re not talking 15 years. We’re talking 12-36 months. Now don’t tell me your former company didn’t have 36 months worth of personal email available.

    More importantly, remember when this request was made in 2012.

    Clearly there is an egregious coverup going on, whether you can bring yourself to admit it, or not.

  101. “Sometimes my comment is so obvious that I wonder if your not getting it is just deliberately obtuse.”

    Fucking A. You don’t understand DR’s point, not the other way around.

    You make the point, not refute it.


  102. I hope you bought a hybrid. You know. Green energy. Climate change.

    LOL Actually I did. But not for any Eco-friendliness. I just think the BMW i3 is a really cool car. Runs purely on battery the first 90 miles or so and then a small gas engine kicks in to charge up the battery and extend the range. I almost bought the pure electric but I have what they call range anxiety.

  103. But not for any Eco-friendliness. I just think the BMW i3 is a really cool car. Runs purely on battery the first 90 miles or so and then a small gas engine kicks in to charge up the battery and extend the range.

    That ain’t green…and that ain’t cheap. Do you have a 220 volt plug in your garage, generated by coal? Or do you just unhook the dryer? 😈

    Hell, you might as well spent your inheritance and gone for the Tesla, the way you manage money.

  104. LOL…A BMW.

    I take it back. Rutherford is black after all. 9 bucks and hour, unemployed wife and a kid to put through college and my man has a gangster lean driving a “Beemer”.

    I’m hating on you Rutherford and kind of jealous. I’ve never bought or leased a new car in my life. Kind of jealous.

    I go with a different strategy. I always drive two vehicles. 5 grand is the max I spend on each car. Always pay in full with cash. I get no fault insurance on them.

    My K5 Blazer is 20 years old now. I have 180 thousand on her but I would bet money I get another 150 in it. Plus, I’d drop a new engine in it if ever went south on me.

    My other car is a 04 mini van. Piece if shit. Thing is already rusting. Convenient though.

    My wife does lease. You get a GM Traverse neo-grocery getter for 200 hundred bucks a month no money down. Hard to beat that.

    She is like Rutherford. Feels entitled to a new car. Has been that way since she was 19. I don’t get it.

  105. 118 I’ve been a bad boy, Tex. If I’m not careful, you all will try to vote me off this site the way the foolish grannies did on theirs.

    Lois Lerner tried to get Ia Sen Grassley audited by the IRS. Another IRS official told her it wasn’t appropriate because he had done nothing wrong.

    Gov. Scott Walker has done nothing wrong either. Red State has an article “8 ways the New York Times Misled You about Governor Walker.” The editor of the Miwaukee Journal Sentinel said that
    Walker was never known to be a target of the investigation.Walker was never accused of wrong doing.

    Since you, like most are not as sophisticated as some about the ways of politics, I will tell you what is happening. Scott Walker has been mentioned as a possible presidential candidate. Democrats are trying to tarnish his luster to weaken his viability.

    They are doing the same to Chris Christi. I don’t know anything about his latest trouble if any, but I do know how the news media obsessed with bridgegate for the same reasons.

  106. That BMWi is bad ass looking. Rutherford, you are going to be drawing attention to yourself in that thing.

    You need my Smith and Wesson Governor, the ultimate anti-car Jack weapon.

  107. Our only new car was a 1974 Maveric. The owner won it in a contest and died of a heart attack before he could get home. His body was in the car for awhile.

    We got the car at a huge discount because a man’s dying in the car freaked people out.

  108. The owner won it in a contest and died of a heart attack before he could get home. His body was in the car for awhile.

    ROFL! 😆 😆 😆

    James, you’re too damn funny. And it’s so dry, if you don’t read it close you miss it. You know what that reminds me of? You remember that song by Alanis Morissette Ironic song?

    An old man turned ninety-eight
    He won the lottery and died the next day
    It’s a black fly in your Chardonnay
    It’s a death row pardon two minutes too late
    And isn’t it ironic… don’t you think?

  109. Ann Coulter cracks me up even when I don’t necessarily agree.

    Personally, I love global competition. Even in soccer.

    I like the fact there are no commercials in soccer. And its not the pussy sport she makes it out to be ( although there seems to being a pussy can be a strategy which I find strange).

    Comparing world cup soccer to the wimpy version American yuppies’ put their kids in (this includes me) isn’t fair. That mindset gas infected little league as well. (Which has caused a counter reaction by people taking little league way too far with hyper competitive try out travel teams for 6 year olds).

  110. Several years ago, my wife and I got hooked on these Sonic Blasts.

    This ditzy blond brings it out and I gulp down a big bite as the spoon already in it and we drove off. I got ready to scoop the second bite at the intersection, scooped it out, and there’s a moving june bug trying to escape. 😯

    It tasted so damn good, I about pulled the bug out and ate it anyway. My wife said, “You eat that after pulling that nasty bug and I’ll never kiss you again.”

  111. Remember when the media tried to foist British soccer star David Beckham and his permanently camera-ready wife on us a few years ago? Their arrival in America was heralded with 24-7 news coverage. That lasted about two days. Ratings tanked. No one cared.

    ** Guffaw ** That’s true too.

  112. Rutherford? Do you know the difference between a porcupine and a male BWM owner?

    With a porcupine, the prick is on the outside.

  113. So G you would agree the Patriot Act made the Bush admin a regime, right? Just want to make sure we have consistent definitions.” – R

    723 words and this is the response I get.


    1) We’re not talking about Bush, we’re talking about Obama.

    2) The Patriot Act was passed by Congress, and has been consistently passed and enforced since. Bush broke no laws in using the Patriot Act.

    2A) Obama has expanded the Patriot Act far more than Bush ever did.

    2B) A debate about the Patriot Act has NOTHING to do with Obama’s breaking the law, or with Obama’s consistent efforts to act like a Tyrant and a Regime.

    2C) This is the epitome of a red herring and you’re either a jackass or retarded, maybe both, for trying to use it.

    At what point will you respond to the bulk of my comment?

  114. Rutherford you miss rabbits point re media and honesty completely. GOPers feet overwhelmingly are held longer and harder to the flames.

  115. Saw a piece exploring the Polish incident. Turns out the disclosures although not lacking in their sincerity are in fact all obtained via illegal bugging of various restraints and clubs. There are credible questions as to the extent Moscow was involved in the “spying”, and that no matter the motivations Poland is likely flowing towards Eurosphere relations.
    Spheres are very hot right now

  116. “All that said, you still have heavy lifting to do to connect this to the White House.”-R

    Are you being sarcastic? The “heavy lifting” is due to the fact the IRS made the emails disappear!!!!!!!!! LOL.

    I’ll say its heavy. The IRS broke the law ensuring it would be heavy.

    The same White House that confidently assured us this was only two rogue jerks in Ohio.

    And what about the fact the administration overseas the IRS? The IRS went after people because of their views on Obama’s watch. Even if there is no “White House” connection…..there is a White House connection. Its calked the damn Executive Branch for a reason!!!

    The Buck stops….wait…in this administration it stops no where. It just floats around forever. Killing people sometimes.

    You people have so many scandals with incompetence as the excuse that you have all become desensitized and accepting of incompetence.

    You are perfectly OK with bad leadership. We have sunk so low that proving gross negligence IS the only goal of Obama supporters.

  117. I took a look at that BMW. I always thought the only thing that BMW had worth a chit was their paint jobs. Germans provide really great paint jobs. Unless things have changed, I thought they rode like tanks.

    No offense, “R”, but do you realize you could have purchased two Prius’ for the price of that cube? Don’t you love your wife? 😮

  118. ” There’s more than can be typed out in a blog comment and I really don’t think you care.”

    Didn’t think you could get through one comment without snark. Fine, I’ll do my own homework.

  119. I usually don’t do this, but I actually watched 2 1/2 hours of talking head FOX News tonight: O’Reilly, Kelly, half of Hannity. There’s at least a dozen real scandals and screw ups – so many, you can’t pick which is the most egregious.

    I came to one startling conclusion tonight. Seriously.

    For the first time in my life, I honestly believe we’ve got a rogue President. And apparently, if you’ve got a corrupt Attorney General and clearly corrupt media to cover for him, and a large dependent mob, the man becomes untouchable. He can literally get a way with just about anything, ram anything down our throats, and give America the big collective finger without worry.

    Tell me, gang. Not you Poolman. I don’t want to read your stupid shit and won’t if you provide it. And not you Rutherford – your an Obama lapdog and enabler – not a serious person anymore, if you ever were. Thanks for the board, though.

    The rest of you tell me. Assuming as I believe, we now have such a large dependent, utterly ignorant class of millions bought and sold, that the media nothing but cover and Dim agitprop, what path do you suggest when The Constitution itself is simply being ignored and why are we not now a banana republic?

  120. ” And buying a German car is an asshole thing to do. Especially at $40,000+. How stupid…”

    You’d prefer I self Immolate in a GM car? No need to answer.

  121. Tex,

    The mob is huge. They aren’t just the dependent class. They are the apolitical and uninformed. Plus the mostly urban Rutherford types. Religious and mindless supporters of the progressive scam.

    Lastly you have the types like me. The true apostates. While I’m aware, I also get paid by the teet and so far still have a middle class life. I also have little ones.

    I think you wait it out….and if it all collapses under its own corrupt weight…which I think it eventually it will….then….all bets are off.

    Better have an immediate plan B. And then…have the guts to fight like mad to carve out a new republic.

    I’m just don’t gave the civic virtue to take risks for anything other then my immediate tribe.

    Makes me respect the Founding Fathers.

  122. To various and sundry, NO I did not miss Rabbits point. As I said he went too far. Yes the lib media does go after conservatives more than libs but it does not have the deterrent effect suggested by Rabbit. Go back and read his comment again and see who didn’t get what he was saying. Hint: most of you!

  123. FWIW the only American car I ever drove was a Pinto and I hated it. All my adult life it’s been Japanese and German. I’ve owned 3 different makes of German cars (Benz, VW and BMW) and loved them all.

  124. Blind Faith

    Obamacare, the Stimulus, TARP, Fast and Furious, support of the Egyptian regime change, Libyan Leading from Behind, four American killed in Benghazi, blaming a video for the Benghazi attacks, the IRA targeting, NSA email and phone file storage, Syrian Red Line, the Russian takeover of Crimea, the VA handling of veterans, release of Taliban terrorists from Guantanamo, the onslaught of children crossing the Mexican border, two years of lost emails of the key IRS individual and now Iraq.

    I can’t imagine any previous U.S. President having so many scandals attributed to his administration and virtually none of them adequately answered or resolved. One must reasonably ascribe the failure to question these issues and ferret out the truth by a lack of earnest reporting by a sympathetic media that ignores the denials, stonewalling and misdirections of the White House. Were there any other person in occupancy at $17 Trillion Pennsylvania Avenue NW, I’d wager the lame-brain press would be bellowing that such action or, more often and more accurately, inaction represents a massive conspiracy to change our nation into something entirely different. But the press, that guarantor of truth and honesty, is asleep at the wheel while our American Republic is raced injudiciously toward becoming a European social democracy.

    But what’s truly astounding is the poll numbers of individuals who still trust the president! This is blind faith beyond comprehension! I’ve heard all the left-wing zealots who advocate bigger government beyond the specifics of the Constitution. I’ve heard the collectivists who stupidly want open borders and a non-existent military. And I’ve heard the dismissals of complete lies about what Obamacare would bring – keep your plan, keep your doctor, etc. – bad enough when it’s political spin, criminal when total fraud.

    Religiously, as Christians, Jews or Muslims, we rely on blind faith of a Creator who will deliver on the words we deem as our respective holy documents. We may come to that decision as we view the magnificence of the universe, the intricacies of a flower or the beauty of procreation of all species. Blind faith in our Creator is not an unreasonable practice in that most preach beyond the faith must be good or charitable works for our fellow man. History, however, has shown faith in our fellow man must also be combined with unfiltered verification.

    But perhaps part of those good works are embodied in the old maxim of never saying ill of someone unless you can also find something good to say about them. Beyond the trappings of a good husband and father, I’ve diligently searched for the good things of Obama and finally come up with

    First, I find it admirable that he can find time to play golf in spite of the obligations of the office of president and in spite of the present chaos in the world. An earlier leader would have been on-station agonizing on whether his decision could make a difference. He’s been able to golf so much more frequently than I ever could with my meager and comparatively insignificant obligations.

    Second, I admire how often Obama can take elaborate vacations for himself and his family on someone else’s dime. It would be nice if my rich uncle would foot the bill for the nicest hotels, food and private transportation to the many exotic places in the U.S. and throughout the world.

    Third, I find it remarkable that Obama’s scruples allow him with a straight face to demonize any opponent with a differing view and to make statements that are false but that his minions attempt to spin as fact.

    And lastly, I admire Obama, as a self-appointed messiah, giving speeches that mesmerize his apologists and send chills down certain commentators’ legs. His performances bring back memories of James Warren “Jim” Jones and other notable tyrants always accepted as truth by an unthinking multitude with unfathomable blind faith.

    Tom Lester

  125. “Didn’t think you could get through one comment without snark. Fine, I’ll do my own homework.”

    Not one bit of snark in my comment. I’ve been through this a number of times with you (e.g. SCOTUS ACA opinion, Martin evidence and procedure etc.). You asked about something that you don’t have an interest in (constitutional/legal philosophy). And if you did, it requires some reading.

    I am not doing it again. For someone that doesn’t answer any questions I’ve asked, you are one damn hypocritical baby. If you ain’t cheerleader fanboy you generally have little to offer.

    Just like Benghazi, you’ve hung your hat on the stupid “nothing burger” moniker and still can’t explain yourself. How does the philosophical rather than practical aspect of the fifth amendment address the issue?

  126. “Last I heard Rabbit, GM cars explode. ”

    I don’t blame you not buying GM. There seems to be a recall every 3 months. Pain in the ass. If we didn’t get dirt cheap leases, I would never do business with them.

    That BMW is going to draw a lot eyes on you Mr. Rutherford.

  127. Thanks Tex. I like that song. Our teenaged daughter began using “ironic” and she impressed her mother until our daughter told her she had learned it from the song.

    I think there is a White House connection with the IRS but it is just a hunch. I believe the visitor log shows numerous visits with IRS leaders before this happened. This could also be a case of ” will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” Obama could have created the mood and his followers did the rest.

    I think Rutherford is doing pretty well under the circumstances. Most of what he is trying to defend is indefensible. This foreign ideology has been part of his identity for so long that as its ramifications become clearer his arguments crumble.

    He is in the position of the boy who asked Shoeless Joe Jackson “Say it ain’t so Joe.” Rutherford has no one to ask. Ed Ames might as well be singing “Who will Answer” but no one can without lying.

  128. We usually buy Fords as my parents did. However,one of my favorite cars was a 1976 Monza. It was made car companies experimented with compact cars,

    I was told they still hadn’t decided to go with small engines or large engines with small cars. It has a 360 engine and good gas mileage. It was like driving a sports car and easily reached 100 MPH. I know because I drove it at that speed for 30 miles during an emergency.

    The car was maneuverable and it was easy to park in small places. A drawback was that it was too powerful for its frame and had a tendency to skid on ice. We drove on the side of a mountain in the Snowy Mountains west of Laramie. There was no road, It was under construction with four inches of June snow cover. The little car began to slide down the mountain, so we stopped, made a snow man and turned around.

    A dealer said we should hang on to the car for its collector value, so we did. It is now under our garage roof which was wrecked during our wind storm earlier this month. Our Monza is holding up the roof,

    We bought a Fusion to replace the one the train killed. It has an object sensor and gives us a regular beep beep. After our neighbor brought his skid loader and removed trees and limbs from our driveway, I backed out. The sensor dispensed with the beeps and made a steady whine. It was not happy.

  129. I’ve been a Honda/Acura man for 30 years, this year now. Really without interruption, but I did find Ford makes good trucks. Hard to believe they could make a much more dependable car.

    When I grew up, my old man was a Buick man. My pop had a million faults, but the one fault he did not have was he was pretty damn generous looking back. He actually bought me a car, though my parents didn’t have much. But it had to be a Buick. LOL It was a POS.

    Bought for one year after college, I followed suit and bought the most expensive Olds they made, brand new. The brothas stole it. It was such a POS, they did me a favor – so much so, I threatened the dealership with painting two lemons on the doors (shiny black car – it would have looked great) with the dealership’s name.

    As I was trying to get it totaled, I had to actually call my Uncle Attorney to threaten the dealership to put it on a rack so an inspector could evaluate and I could get it would totaled. Only time I’ve ever asked for legal help. other than construction of a will.

    The General Manager was a pompous prick and came over and said, “Son. I really don’t care if you ever buy another GM car again.”

    I told him I guarantee I wouldn’t.

    Wonder if he would be so arrogant now?

  130. My brother is a GM exec. I still can’t say anything good about their products. It’s not just the designs, but the quality is reflective of the labor environment that has been created for the workers.

    Like Tex, I am an Acura guy (TL).

  131. Both of my cars are American made…both are Toyotas but are American made with a higher % of US source parts than any of the US makers offer.
    Its interesting to get an apolitical Rutherford picture even though it only adds on to my belief that in the real world I would not get along with him.

  132. In asking us to reread deadrabbits comment we’re to take that to mean #104 right? In its entirety right?
    I think we’re right in our position Rutherford. The Right is held more accountable ergo honest by the Fourth Estate than a (D) and DEFINITELY MORE SO THAN OBAMA HANDS DOWN!!
    I took that to be the crux of DR’s point.

  133. Glad you said that, Alfie. Surprisingly, my Accord (V6) is 84% American made according to instruction under the hood – non union, of course. Six years, zero problems.

    Tigre, my TL I’m afraid is not long for retirement. My wifey has put 222,000+ miles on it without problem after having a new transmission installed on Honda’s expenseat 94,000.

    Been a fabulous car. Even with near luxury and few problems, I’ve been begging Ms. Tightwad to replace it.

  134. @ gorilla @ 174 just to play devils advocate as it were.
    The ruling shows just how schizophrenic the “law” can be and how pathetic the concept of “justice” is in the USA.
    Other states will keep their buffer zones and have no doubt MA will at a min. return to the “floating bubble” zone approach.
    MA is a good primer for exactly how fucked up populism,government,partisan shenanigans,theology and assorted other isms make America very very mockable.

  135. A clarification for my #180 btw. I am not a fan of abortion by any stretch. I also totally dig the free speech component of the Constitution. However in my EMS days working 911 in Brookline MA I saw a side of people in the anti-abortion camp that transcended anything you’d think (or at least for me) that which flowed from the concept of pro life,love and humanity.

  136. Alfie, yeah, they can get a little carried away. I just never liked the hypocrisy of how leftists can stage walk-ins or sit-ins and nothing happens, but pro-life folks were put in a pen somewhere to the side.

  137. Alfie, #181 is true. But…

    That doesn’t detract from the truth of the issue and its associated argument and is in fact, a tactic of the Left. Take the most egregious behavior and treat it as typical. That’s what Planned Parenthood does.

    Let’s face it. Tell me how you put a ‘moderate face’ on a destroyed five month old fetus poster?

    If you’re going to face truth, hardly anything expresses the horror more than witnessing the end result That’s human nature.

    I experienced this last week. Watching a video of a man with his head sawed off for simply being Christian like I did the other day, changes your perspective about exactly what it is that is transpiring and who it is your facing.

    You think you understand the issue, only to then witness the event is even more horrible than imagined.

  138. I was going to say, witnessing that video changed me.

    I can see now better understand how soldiers experience PTSD. I used to believe it over diagnosed, almost a crutch.

    Now I’m not sure how anybody experiencing real battle, would be several steps up from what I saw, can get away from experiencing some degree of losing one’s humanity.

  139. Tex, that essay reminded me of Rutherford and his departed cowardly allies. He is honest enough to know his ideological identity is crumbling as fast as the walls Sampson pulled down.

    PSTD doesn’t just affect soldiers. Survivors of crime, storms, and disasters can also react. It never leaves some people. Our neighbor who climbed the cliffs of Omaha Beach and who fought in the Battle of the Bulge slept in a room separate from his wife for fear he would strangle her in his sleep.

    If you see one of these people on the street or in a social setting you will think he/she is normal. They are like the folks in Cherokee Nation “Though I wear a suit and tie, I’m still a red man deep inside.”
    Or even more so like the Sami people who live a culture somewhere between the Eskimos and plains Indians but who basically look Northern European.

    like Native Americans, they live in two camps. One is hidden to let them fit in, Survivors of trauma often do the same thing.

  140. Tex, excellent article at #176!

    Then I clicked on a link contained therein and it led to this gem.

    “Moral Narcissism is an evocative term for the almost schizophrenic divide between intentions and results now common in our culture. It doesn’t matter how anything turns out as long as your intentions are good. And, just as importantly, the only determinant of those intentions, the only one who defines them, is you.

    In other words, if you propose or do something, it only matters that you feel good or righteous about what you did or are proposing, that it makes you feel better personally. The results are irrelevant, as are how the actual activity affects others.

    Also, although it pretends (especially to the self) to altruism, moral narcissism is in essence passive aggressive, asserting superiority over the ignorant or “selfish” other. It is elitist, anti-democratic and quote often, consciously or unconsciously, sadistic.”

    And on page 2 of that article (on the Bergdahl matter), this:

    “Moral narcissism creates an atmosphere of dishonesty bizarrely similar to Islamic taqqiya. In Islam, the believer is permitted to lie to the non-believer because the believer has the greater truth. For the moral narcissist, lies becomes truth in almost the same manner.”

  141. MSNBC’s Chris Hayes: ISIS Engaged In A “Heroically Romantic” Struggle…

    This is ISIS…

    To call him a piece of shit is really a disservice to shit. At least shit has some value and utility, whereas this fucking assclown has none of either. But wine-cooleR thinks he’s cute and cool…

  142. Muffy,

    As our resident bloke is fond of pointing out, I have way too much time on my hands. One of the benefits of having so much time, is it allows me the luxury of reading a lot. I almost wish I didn’t.

    The problem with that is that most of it, the truly legitimate, well researched brilliance becomes distressing for me to read because of my wife and children. But the articles are out there. These are simply articles I believe many of you of like mind might find interesting.

    Since I no longer find this a serious place of discussion and haven’t for quite some time, I generally post things that interest me – not necessarily the best ones which can be long on detail. I don’t even broach the economic ones.

    I’m sure the quality of my own comments demonstrate just how unserious I can take this place. I really don’t want Poolman to get his head lopped off. 😈

    It’s for my own amusement, or to virtual friends that share the humor – almost a place of solace. I do wish to genuinely thank Mr. Rutherford for that, as we all should. And I hope each of you take the time to thank him. Rutherford doesn’t have to do this and deserves it for providing this forum.

    America has become a nation that is not only dependent, but disinterested. I would say fully 80% of nation so disengaged, that they will have no idea what happened when hammer drops. As you witnessed on 9/11, most people are quite fragile and become frozen with fear during times of great duress. Now try to imagine an event hundreds of times more terrible, perhaps spread across many towns and cities. We are unprepared.

    And unfortunately for me, my family is scattered to say the least. That is the part that terrifies me. Chances very good even my own spouse will not be with me, my real solace while I am, believe it or not, her rock. She covers my weaknesses and then some; I provide her the right words when she is hurting and needs a hug. 🙂

    I will tell you for your own interests, anything by Victor Davis Hansen like I posted yesterday is excellent. Mark Steyn and Roger Simon are both generally well versed and well read. Dennis Prager can also be quite good. But the truly good “stuff” are the ones I read that are more academic in nature and take a measure of time most of you working don’t have the luxury of exploring.

    I miss the days where Rutherford had the time to think and adequately respond. While I seldom agreed with him, at least it did pique a discussion worth having. Even Thor could stimulate honest conversation on occasion. I am not sure why he left and hope he is doing well.

  143. MR. Gorilla,

    Chris Hayes is a depraved mind. He’s an ingrate that has no idea what they words honor, virtue, heroism mean; an incredibly callow man, as is his entire network, viewed by callow and unserious people…Fools by another name.

    I hope the guys who served with honor and distinction don’t bother with Chris Hayes. More importantly, I hope their families don’t.

    And I say that because real soldiers recognize Chris Hayes for what he is – an ungrateful punk and utter coward. Like you, they have no use for him. He is one of millions of impotent fools that they protect under the banner of freedom for no other reason that he happened to be born lucky.

    But their families who make equal sacrifice, the moms and dads who don’t know where the son is or if he is alive, the kids that have been left without parent, the spouse always fearful when someone knocks on the door.

    I hope they never see that.

  144. By the way, Gorilla. Those videos as awful as they might be?

    They don’t do justice to the evil now transpiring across this globe. Not even close. I am absolutely sure YouTube would not even allow them.

    There are a few things so vile and vicious, I choose not to provide them here. They’re so hideously evil and sadistic, they truly change your life just viewing them as monsters scream Allahu Akbar in unison, swords and rifles raised.

    But the one thing they most definitely do if you have any compassion for your fellow man, or even love someone, leave you only one conclusion.

    They must completely be destroyed. Chris Hayes should be forced to watch them – over and over again.

  145. Welcome to what passes for intellectualism amongst the left. Really, this is quite possibly the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. Seriously, this is military grade stupidity…

    It’s a strange hypothetical scenario to imagine. Pressure to accept a medical treatment, no tangible proof of its necessity, its only benefits conferred by the fact that everyone else already has it, and coming at a terrible expense to those 1 or 2 percent who have a bad reaction. It seems unlikely that doctors, hospitals, parents, or society in general would tolerate a standard practice like this.

    Except they already do. The imaginary treatment I described above is real. Obstetricians, doctors, and midwives commit this procedure on infants every single day, in every single country. In reality, this treatment is performed almost universally without even asking for the parents’ consent, making this practice all the more insidious. It’s called infant gender assignment: When the doctor holds your child up to the harsh light of the delivery room, looks between its legs, and declares his opinion: It’s a boy or a girl, based on nothing more than a cursory assessment of your offspring’s genitals.

    These people should be rounded up and sterilized to protect humanity…

  146. I miss the days where Rutherford had the time to think and adequately respond.” -Tex

    Don’t think for one moment Rutherford’s work schedule is the cause of his disengagement.

    He’s has a very fragile ego. And he is totally defeated.

    As for guys like Thor, he would say he doesn’t come here because we can be assholes. And there is truth in that. But the real reason is its just easier ignoring this very sad state affairs.

  147. ““Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar,” John McCain told CNN’s Candy Crowley in January 2014. “Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar, and for our Qatari friends,” the senator said once again a month later, at the Munich Security Conference.

    McCain was praising Prince Bandar bin Sultan, then the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services and a former ambassador to the United States, for supporting forces fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria. McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham had previously met with Bandar to encourage the Saudis to arm Syrian rebel forces.“Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar,” John McCain told CNN’s Candy Crowley in January 2014. “Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar, and for our Qatari friends,” the senator said once again a month later, at the Munich Security Conference.”…

  148. I took that to be the crux of DR’s point.

    Crux fux. Let me repeat I got the crux and stated Rabbit went too far in asserting that this caused R’s to be more cautious than Dems. It doesn’t.

    This isn’t hard.

  149. When the doctor holds your child up to the harsh light of the delivery room, looks between its legs, and declares his opinion: It’s a boy or a girl, based on nothing more than a cursory assessment of your offspring’s genitals.

    Which giant periodical produced that gem?


  150. Lurker? For once, I’m going to agree with you if the articles say what I think they say. No need to read because I’ve already formulated what I think of John McCain. He’s the Joe Biden of the Republican Party.

    Meghan McCain inherited her dad’s intelligence. In other words, babbling protoplasm.

  151. 196 Gender is more complex than a simple visual inspection. Aside from mental proclivities, consider the wonderful world of intersex. One of my in laws has Turners Syndrome. She has x0 chromosomes and is infertile. She took growth hormones to gain a little height, and she is susceptible to any condition otherwise protected by the missing gene. There are many more conditions.

    “Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
    it’s a mixed up, muddled up shook up world
    Except for Lola lo lo lo Lola”

    The KIinks

    I also tend to agree with Lurker. However, I add “thank God for Putin” who stopped Obama from more important involvement in Syria. He would surely have helped the wrong sides.

    Thanks Rutherford for letting us virtually hang out here and for suffering our insults.

  152. Yeah. Come around more. R is lonely. He’s been talking to his cats.

    “Crux fux. Let me repeat I got the crux and stated Rabbit went too far in asserting that this caused R’s to be more cautious than Dems. It doesn’t.”

    See? He thinks the cat is talking back.

  153. The cat wins the argument every time.

    “OMFG Pfarker was right. YOU ARE LUCY


    You have a kind of sick desperation In your laugh, Dummy.

    Did anyone read the article on moral narcissism and not think of Rutherford?

  154. My momma told me to stay away from people who can’t play nice….but I don’t always listen to my momma.

    John McCain didn’t listen to his momma when she told him he lost the election.

  155. I loathe McCain but I can’t put much stock in the Left targeting him in this matter.
    The US has played a very poor game in the Arab Spring arena and the West should be ashamed of itself that it is being caught with its hands in all the wrong cookie jars.
    The reality is nothing is happening within some vacuum over there. ISIL in Iraq is bolstered by Sunni elements that are entering alliances of common cause aka f@#$ Maliki the guy the US entrusted btw and that all things considered Tehran likes.
    ISIL in Syria is against everyone as they ultimately stand for only themselves. They actually benefit no matter what happens while Iran,Saudi Arabia & Qatar are engaged in a proxy war.
    Now Obama is asking for millions of dollars to be sent to arm Syrian rebels who can’t hope for much more than the stalemate they are locked in. meanwhile Iraq has applauded Syrian airstrikes upon ISIL in Iraq and is likely to take delivery of Russian fighter jets to grow its air force and defend itself,or at least the sitting pro Shiite government.
    Meanwhile Hayes is a punk but I’m reading his comments are being taken out of context. If you don’t think jihadi types are not pitching wood secondary to the ISIL track record you’re crazy. This reeks of a grand cause to your everyday Sunni/Wahabbi zealot. For a western comparison think Hemingway on steroids.

  156. Rutherford you’re a guy that blew $$$ on New Urbanisms poster child of a car,indeed curious to me.
    If you don’t think (R)’s walk more cautious in the light and shadows you’re being stubborn & parochial.

  157. You have a kind of sick desperation In your laugh, Dummy. Did anyone read the article on moral narcissism and not think of Rutherford?

    It’s worse than that, Muffy. Rutherford didn’t even know what the hell you were talking about and how it defined him.

    One thing I’m reminded of when I read “R'”s retort. You can’t be too nice or too civil to Rutherford. He sees it as a sign of weakness or an opening. He carries grudge too. Christie, my ass. Libertarian? ** Guffaw ** Utter bullshit.

    It burns his ass when we throw his past tripe in his face in conjunction with his gagging, fawning, bootlicking, rim tonguing, genuflecting to Obama 2008. Talk about gag effect.

    And by damn, they are both Harvard graduates. Don’t you realize that makes Obama and Rutherford shared brothers in greatness? Anyone here still think Harvard floating above the clouds? 😈 That’s what I thought.

    What do you think drove this post? Anything, everything to try and render the onslaught and change the argument back to the only place Rutherford excels – aping MSNBC talking points, framed around FOX for fairness.

    Like my comment last week about realizing there are good people in every precinct and using you as example in an otherwise dreadful town.

    Rutherford can be a real nasty piece of work. Nice bitch slap, of which he’ll now accuse me of being you.

  158. Rutherford you’re a guy that blew $$$ on New Urbanisms poster child of a car,indeed curious to me.

    {snicker}…practically, hey?

    It’s what my good friend and former neighbor used to call conspicuous consumption. Men with small penises, trying to resurrect glory days.

    Dedictated to the new Libertarian and Christie fan:

    Now I think I’m going down to the well tonight
    and I’m going to drink till I get my fill
    And I hope when I get old I don’t sit around thinking about it
    but I probably will

    Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
    a little of the glory of, well time slips away
    and leaves you with nothing mister but
    boring stories of glory days

  159. Rabbit sometimes you can say some really stupid shit. Fragile ego? You alone have been hammering me for the past six years. Next to my buddy Tex you’ve said some of the most vicious stuff here. Roofa please, if I had a fragile ego I would have shut down this blog ages ago.

  160. ” If you don’t think (R)’s walk more cautious in the light and shadows you’re being stubborn & parochial.”

    Alfie I can only judge by results. Politicians regardless of party are arrogant and believe themselves beyond reach. The fourth estate fails us repeatedly and I submit no pol is afraid of them.

  161. It’s worse than that, Muffy. Rutherford didn’t even know what the hell you were talking about and how it defined him.

    First you underestimate me.. Muffy’s excerpt was not rocket science nor particularly profound. The accusation of self-delusional and self serving sense of moral superiority has been made here less eloquently many times before.

    Second, you nor your bud have a sense of humor when faced with the mildest chide. Pfarker accused Muffy of playing shrink and her excerpt played right into it. After all, narcissism is a psychiatric symptom, is it not?

  162. “Rabbit sometimes you can say some really stupid shit. Fragile ego? ” -R

    Rutherford, you are a writer. Tex and the Rabbit read your shit. We stroke your ego.

    I don’t believe for a minute that a full time job stops you from coming here and engaging in politics.

    Sure….debating us individually might be too much but you are clearly hiding from the failure you helped bring upon this nation when you voted for Obama.

    It doesn’t need to be that way.

    Take some ownership of your own ideas. These scandals should have you screaming.

    You are a big government liberal OK with big government failure.


  163. I agree with alfie in 209 and it is why I wrote “thank God for Putin.”

    McCain is a diversion to deflect attention from Obama and by extension the left’s failures.

    214 I also agree with Rutherford. Politicians are untrustworthy.We need opposing parties to keep each other in check. The Fourth Estate has some rights because its job is to give voters information about their employees.

    They have failed us because they have joined the dark side. The liberal press has become the publicity agent for evil and incompetent would be monarchs.

    Many voters are too lazy to do independent research. It is a sad state of affairs when talk show hosts and internet bloggers are better news sources than well-paid anchors. Even Rush is more accurate than MSNBC for some stories.

    Calling these scandals “nothingburgers” was a mistake.

  164. R: “You alone have been hammering me for the past six years. Next to my buddy Tex you’ve said some of the most vicious stuff here. Roofa please, if I had a fragile ego I would have shut down this blog ages ago.”

    A thought-provoking post. Now that you have become more pensive and thoughtful, let me play Loose Lucy for a minute and ask you a couple of those nickel-psychiatrist questions:

    1) What do you REALLY get out of this blog?

    2) Do you think it possible that, by wallowing your psyche in this little billabong with some of the loser mentalities that often post here, you might be absorbing some of their loser POVs and further damaging YOUR chances of success? Maybe your time would be better spent in getting some training or networking with “brothas” who have been successful?

    Let me ask the expert. Loose Lucy, do you think R gets some kind of secondary gain by being kicked in the gonolies over and over?

  165. Hey Rutherford? As you ponder the “bloke’s” question, recognize that ‘Parker’ and you share many of the same horrid qualities. It’s an amazing set of circumstances, isn’t it?

    Ponder this.

    What has your progressive politic and irreligiosity gotten you? Do you feel fulfilled? Does your future look bright? Is your family stronger on account of it? Or, if you’re like Dr. Kevorkian in his practice of solipsism credentialed with nihilist, does family really matter?

    Only you’re more likeable, even if your car cubed and your penis small. There’s your Left handed compliment for today. 😉

  166. Hey Rabbit? Are you as crushed as I am when you’re referred to as loser by a father of kids without purpose?

    I don’t know about you, but I may never recover.

  167. What do you guys think, especially our resident attorneys. Hope BIC shows up to help answer. To me, it sounds not only reasonable, but feasible.

    Feasible because I would have to believe it would be wildly popular with the masses.

    How to control the IRS and America’s untouchable caste of bureaucrats

    Conclusion: The way to control this epidemic of government law-breaking is to allow citizen victims to sue, and legislate personally liability for bureaucrats guilty of willfully illegal conduct.

  168. Where, exactly, does this end?

    . . . But even if the NFL and Redskins brass come to their senses and rename the team, a greater symbolic injustice would continue to afflict Indians — an injustice perpetuated not by a football club but by our federal government.

    In the United States today, the names Apache, Comanche, Chinook, Lakota, Cheyenne and Kiowa apply not only to Indian tribes but also to military helicopters. Add in the Black Hawk, named for a leader of the Sauk tribe. Then there is the Tomahawk, a low-altitude missile, and a drone named for an Indian chief, Gray Eagle. Operation Geronimo was the end of Osama bin Laden.

  169. Speaking of big nothing burgers…

    I noticed even Clinton Lackey and Legal Deflector Lanny Davis is calling for special prosecutor concerning the IRS.

    I would like to see how history’s smartest President eveh Barack Hussein Obama’s “I read about it in the paper” holds up under cross examination.

  170. Gorilla, to further add insult to injury, I am still wondering if any of the name change proponents recognize we’ll need to change the name of my state to accommodate the profound political correctness?

    Okla Homa

    The state’s name is derived from the Choctaw words okla and humma, meaning “red people”.

  171. What does any one get from these blogs? Mental excercise to ward off the effects of dementia. For some of us, it may be too late.

    Omaha, Mondamin, Little Sioux, River Sioux, Sioux City, Sioux Rapids, Sioux Falls Big Sioux, Sioux County, Arapahoe, Mandan, and “Sioux land” would have to change too,

  172. Tex, it’s an interesting thought but I don’t see how allowing alleged victims to sue the IRS would result in anything better than what we have.

    First, the doctrine of sovereign immunity applies to largely shield individual wrong doers. The reasons for sovereign immunity are sound but notwithstanding them, an ward of damages against the IRS comes from everyone’s pockets. So I don’t see the deterrent absent personal liability (which might exist under certain circumstances). Therefore, the penalties need to be criminal not civil which, again, requires a DOJ willing to enforce laws which this one won’t (and seems intent on creating a precedent that the short sighted Obama worshippers haven’t considered).

    Second, from a practical standpoint, the IRS would come to a grinding halt if it were forced defend any and all citizen/taxpayer suits. As I often tell people that complain about some weird lawsuit they hear about, all it takes to file a lawsuit is $150 and a signature. Getting it dismissed can cost thousands and thousands. How can this be managed.

    Without thinking much about it, I think the real issue in my view is Congressional rather than judicial agency oversight. I analogize the EPA endangerment finding — something I am familiar with (and a reason why R’s stupid weather observations as proof of global warming are laughed at). By delegating CO2 regulation to the EPA, its near limitless authority can (and likely will) be abused in much the same fashion that the IRS. By imposing restrictions and enforcement of permitting to any carbon producing business (which range from the sandwich shop on your block to auto manufacturers), a rogue agency official or politically motivated has the power to destroy and therefore controls virtually all business activity. All without Congressional oversight. It is why the SCOTUS decision a couple days back is significant. The opinion recognizes the problem — obviously without going far enough to toss the incredibly flawed EPA endangerment finding. At least there is a crack of daylight from the opinion (reports about what it all really means in the media totally miss the most crucial aspects of the opinion — but that’s for another day).

    So there you have it from an expert. I don’t fucking know. But I do think the solution is proper legislative oversight rather than citizen/taxpayer lawsuits. Our problem is the uniformed masses that elect these fuck-wads and think that a does of dictatorship should be tolerated as the natural consequence of what it perceives to be a non functioning Congress (i.e. dictatorship only when it means getting your way).

  173. Pfarker, what do you get by coming here with your false identity, lecturing and seeking R’s approval?

    You read like a child desperately begging for mom’s attention while she’s engaged in a conversation.

    Pfuck. Go back to Fat Grannies where someone might actually pay attention to you so you can feel gratified.

  174. Haha Tigre you read my mind. Almost word for word. 🙂

    Rutherford’s not that complex. The dynamics of this place are peculiar, but that’s another issue.

    Ultimately the grudge match with Cletus is boring.

  175. Tigre,

    The reasons for sovereign immunity are sound but notwithstanding them, an ward of damages against the IRS comes from everyone’s pockets.

    This may be a frustrating exercise for you explaining to the layman. LOL. Of all the fields of study, law might be the bottom of my understanding. Like explaining physics to Poolman.

    Let me ask this.

    If I understood correctly, this circumvents one of the biggest bitches I have when a government agency is sued and loses. My wife and I get to pay for their incompetence. Wouldn’t the loss in this case come from the agent personally, assuming there would be no immunity hiding behind an agency name?

    I understand that raises a whole different set of issues.

  176. “Wouldn’t the loss in this case come from the agent personally, assuming there would be no immunity hiding behind an agency name?”

    I think that’s what was being advocated in the article (but I admit didn’t read it very carefully). I am far from very knowledgeable on this subject. However, if functioning in their capacity as an employee of the agency, I don’t know what would happen without immunity.

    In the private realm, there’s a doctrine know as respondeat superior that generally hold the employer liable for a loss if it was caused within the performance of the employee’s duties.

    I think you’re talking about an award of damages for harm though (compensatory) in the civil context. I think the remedy for unlawful conduct should be punitive (not just remedial where harm would be nearly impossible to measure) — and that’s why the distinction between civil and criminal is so important and turns on enforcement. Private parties cannot exact criminal penalties.

    So, what is the “loss?” And just as importantly, who would foot the bill for the defense of civil claims against individual agents?

  177. Why does the left take the complaints about the rise of the “fourth branch” so personally? Everything is always viewed through the prism of how it reflects on Obama.

    Rutherford aren’t you dismayed about the size – and growing – of government?

    Why is the left so hostile to the tea party by the way? The R’s are the ones most directly negatively impacted by their presence in the form of elections. But “tea party” has become one of those phrases that cause lefties to go googly-eyed and start stomping and snorting. Rutherford himself gets all high and mighty about them.

    Anyway apropos of nothing but following the voice of Jonathan Turley through the link regarding suing individuals cloaked in bureaucratic agencies for damages I came across this – it’s over a year old but only more true and more obvious and more frightening today than ever.

  178. What has your progressive politic and irreligiosity gotten you?

    Don’t you think you’re conflating things a bit there? Surely there are progressives who believe in salvation through Jesus Christ? Or were you just saying I’ve taken on a double whammy by being a progressive heathen?

  179. The way to control this epidemic of government law-breaking is to allow citizen victims to sue, and legislate personally liability for bureaucrats guilty of willfully illegal conduct.

    From what I understand the major hurdle for Boehner in his suit against Obama is legal standing — he has to prove he’s a victim. Your excerpt, Tex, seems to me, solves that problem. The person who loses their health care due to Obamacare has more legal standing than Congress.

  180. Its a good article about the fourth branch. The same argument was used in Nebraska and Iowa against term limits. Elected representatives come and go, but government workers stay until they die.They have the strongest institutional memory.

    As for Lanny Davis. Agreed. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

  181. Rutherford aren’t you dismayed about the size – and growing – of government?

    You’ll find this a non-answer but what the hell. Size only matters to the extent that it interferes with effectiveness. If our gov fails because of size then shrink it. If it fails because of the qualities of our elected officials, then replace them.

  182. So Tigre, in your professional opinion do you think Boehner’s suit is a good idea and do you think the court will find he has standing?

    Didn’t Congress already file suit against the Executive regarding Libyan intervention and standing stopped the suit dead in its tracks?

  183. The Center for Immigration Studies says a survey based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that since 2000, net employment growth has gone to legal and illegal immigrants. 127,000 fewer working age natives held jobs in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000. The number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level.

    17 million more working age natives were unemployed in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000. 8.7 million college graduates are not working, nor are 17 million with no college or 25.3 million with a high school education or less.

    These trends challenge the view that immigration increases job opportunities for natives. Over 17 million immigrants moved here after 2000 and “yet native employment has deteriorated significantly.”

    This is the result of government policy. Millions of people, possibly including Rutherford and his wife have been damaged by government policy. In a just world they would be able to sue for damages.

    A number of 2011 area flood victims are suing the Corps of Engineers for flood damages.

  184. “So Tigre, in your professional opinion do you think Boehner’s suit is a good idea and do you think the court will find he has standing?”

    I don’t know anything about the proposed lawsuit so I don’t have any opinion on it.

    But even if I did, I can assure you that questions of standing are complex and capable of an off-the-cuff analysis that’s worth a shit.

  185. Incidentally, you are probably drawing false parallels in the Libyan intervention actions. The IRS and executive authority with regard to military/diplomatic intervention are in now way the same universe.

  186. I now see that my 249 proves I know nothing of the proposed Boehner lawsuit. 😆

    I would like to know why you have no problems with Obama’s overreach and the stunning events with the IRS emails. I honestly marvel at your apathy. You should be outraged and frightened not dismissive.

  187. The notion that illegal immigration INCREASES job opportunity for legals is so counterintuitive as to be totally ludicrous. I don’t know how anyone can float that notion with a straight face.

  188. Surely there are progressives who believe in salvation through Jesus Christ?

    Actually, I don’t think there are if you want to know my opinion, but then I’m not judge. They should be grateful. The reasons why are beyond your scope. Sorry if that comes across as smug or arrogant – it’s not meant to be. But you have such little understanding of that particular subject, the breadth of reasoning escapes you, just as my questions posed to Tigre as subject expert would escape me.

    I think there are a great many people calling themselves Christian who aren’t. And I am sure my own behavior could fairly be called into question too to be fair.

    Don’t you think you’re conflating things a bit there?

    That wasn’t meant to conflate. That’s what you are. But if you think I’m conflating and that the two separate issues, feel free to put religion, or your lack thereof, aside and answer the progressive part.

  189. Lanny Davis is a full time asshole who has never liked Obama. Zero credibility.

    How could Lanny Davis be less credible than you? Again, not to be smug but Davis is more qualified in this particular manner than you are to decide what would require a special counsel and what wouldn’t. Jonathan Turley has mentioned previously he believes the same and he is a self-admitted flaming lib that appears frequently on CNN to bash overreach by Republicans – hardly a right-wing cheerleader.

    Rutherford, you should welcome a prosecutor. You told us this a big nothing burger. What better way to prove your point than for all players, including Obama and Holder (speaking of assholes), to convene in front of a grand jury and enter into cross examination to prove they have no connection and total innocence to IRS abuse. Obama told us there was not a smidgeon of corruption (cough cough). You could make Obama that sympathetic figure once again – like when you managed to fool the feckless American public to believe Monica was about a blow job – as if that weren’t bad enough.

    As it is now, the perception is that all signs point to rogue administrators at the highest levels directed by the White House using the IRS to punish Conservatives groups, and worse, individual citizens.

    Short of Obama having people murdered, that’s about as serious a criminal charge against a President as can be made.

    That certainly ain’t a nothing burger.

  190. “Yup I can see how they are apples and oranges Tigre. So failure in the first suit is no predictor of failure in the second.”

    I don’t whether you can say that it is not a predictor without knowing the basis for standing. I can’t overstate how complex issues of standing are. You shouldn’t either.

  191. You might be surprised by that, but we’re not. It’s been pretty clear for years that Obama has been a law breaker. You can call that whatever you want, but correct is correct…


    I’m sorry for yelling but is that all he ever does? And what “funds” is he raising and for whom?

  193. G, the only thing Turley said that I think might really stick is misappropriation of funds vis-a-vis Obamacare. Sad to say that does sound criminal regardless of why it was done.

  194. Saw President Obama today going on about “phony scandals”.

    Bring it, bitch!

    And now that the Middle East is a disaster, Ditherer in Chief wants a half a billion to go to Sunni rebels so we can fight Assad and Iran while, a few miles to the East, we team up with Iran to fight Sunni rebels.

    Man….the hands off policy mixed with himming and hawing is quite the Obama Doctrine.

    Awesome foreign policy.

    Mark my words….when ISIS fails at their land grab, which, after hundreds of thousands dead, they will…they will go balls deep into traditional international terrorism.

    We will end up hunting all these people down.

  195. Gloabal warming destabalizing Iraq. The fucking group psychology that defines the warmist stupidity is unbelievable. It will be a punch line years from now.

  196. 261 Remember Rutherford, I wrote it first right after Benghazi. It is probably politically unwise to actually start a trial, but it doesn’t seem extreme, now does it? We are approaching a line.

    The Feds got Al Capone for tax evasion. Whatever works.

    I’ve heard the argument that immigration increases native jobs. It falls in the class of global warming. Both are part of an authoritarian redistributionist plan

  197. CIS really not the most credible entity when it comes to exploring data. BLS has up to the date (MAR 2014) information that shows immigrants,both legal and illegal have less unemployment than native pop. It also shows how they tend to be almost entirely found in the service sector and are paid on average 79% of what native population is paid.
    The numbers in their entirety are more telling. Real lessons for take away:
    1.Blacks especially are unemployable for the jobs they are suited for. Combination of attitudes,skill set and logistics play the heaviest roles imo. There is a lot of science behind my conclusion on this one.
    2. Immigrant labor force both legal and illegal find hispanics to be the majority element. Sadly Clinton era census diddling has skewed the data set. Conversely said diddling does in fact seem to capture a demographic reality regards hispanics which is worthy of discussion of its own.
    3. Whites on both ends of the skill spectrum have been hit the “hardest” by the changes in our economy. They are either unsuited for the low skill jobs secondary to attitude issues and are just simply blown out by the ethic and lower pay scale set of the immigrant elements. On the other end its quite simply “the economy stupid”. Graduates not really quality and potential retirees staying on due to $ fears.
    4. CIS math a little dishonest at best when it attempts to paint all jobs went to immigrants based on math numbers that don’t pass the smell test.

  198. Of interest to me regards Obama and completely off my radar was SCOTUS ruling on the NLRB recess appointments.
    9-0 ruling that Obamas actions were UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

  199. Not as bog of a victory as it seems, Alfie. Yes, Obama got slapped as he should have. Even his lackeys went against him. However, the opinion sets up some parameters for future abuse of recess appointments (10 day rule). I think it’s a bitter sweet product of brokering a consensus (something Roberts focuses on). Be sure to read Scalia. He’s right on this.

  200. Any wager on whether Hobby Lobby will be returned or ruled on? It’s a Pandora’s Box regardless of which way the opinion goes. I kind of wonder if they’ll duck.

  201. 267 alfie, you make good points and the conclusions you stated are still similar to the study I quoted. So far, my post and Rutherford’s agreement still stand. Yes, “all” is a very big word.I also wondered about that.

    I think psychology and culture also play a role in the disparity . It takes a strong person to exchange familiar surroundings for an uncertain future. It is like picking door number one or door number three.

    Many of the immigrants I have met have such a powerful work ethic they out compete more complacent natives. It doesn’t just happen in the US western Europeans complain about the poor eastern Europeans who move in and take jobs rightfully belonging to the natives.

    In some parts of northwest Iowa and northeastern Iowa, a small minority of Ukrainians is doing what our ancestors did. Iraqis and Afghans in southeastern Nebraska are also working hard.

    Our would-be rulers want a steady flood of immigrants to maintain a permanent dependent under class. Newcomers will replace those who climb the economic ladder. Blacks will continue to languish, but the liberals care more about their power than poor people..

  202. “I’ve been working so hard staying alive. I’ve been down my luck, just feeling a void. I don’t need this s..t. It won’t be long before I take that money and run. I’m gonna take that money and run.” Icona Pop

  203. A song for Rutherford to sing: ” You make me as mad as hell. Frankly, I’m just disappointed. I just get disappointed.” Clooe Howl

  204. “what do you get by coming here with your false identity,”


    As opposed, one supposes, to a REAL identity, like “El Tigre.” Yep – a logical mind like a steel trap – it’s clear to see why you were not at the top of your paralegal class, or whatever it is you do.

    Did you choose that Real Identity to let everybody know you are a tough guy? Or is a Tigre just a species of big pussy? LOL

    Er, this is the Internet, in case you missed that, Tigre. It’s like Glenn Frey’s “Smuggler’s Blues:” every name is an alias – including yours, unless your parents really had a sense of humour.

    For entertainment:

  205. Oh look. Pfuckface is drinking again. That’s mighty witty stuff. Of course you’re a “professor,” right mate? 😆

  206. Incintally, el tigre was cartoon character my children had on when I first logged in here. So, pussy. Maybe we need a spellin’ contest, eh “professor?”

    Why did you start holding yourself out as an Austalian stock broker? Was it to throw the FBI off your trail after they found you to be as big of a douche as everyone here did?

  207. Lol.

    Jennifer Flowers recounted some pillow talk from Bill. She asked if Hillary had ever been with a woman. Bill laughed and said, “shit – she’s eaten more pussy than me.”

  208. You know that mysterious hillbilly somewhere in the neighborhood who (A) spends a disproportionate amount of his income on massive projectile fireworks and (B) can’t help but firing them off every night well before Independence Day?

    Yeah….I’m that guy.

  209. It will be a punch line years from now.

    Tigre I can only hope you’re right cos if you’re wrong we’re all in deep doodoo.

    I’m not a global warming cheerleader but I also find it foolish to laugh at 92% of the scientific community.

  210. ,rabbit A strong thunderstorm with almost continuous lighting gave us natural fire works.

    Twenty minutes after the rain, someone like you began blasting such loud fireworks, it was almost like mortar fire. Our nearest neighbor lives two miles away, I hope they do it again so we can get a free fireworks display.

  211. 9-0 ruling that Obamas actions were UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

    I saw a SCOTUS analyst (I don’t remember who she writes for) call this and the abortion protest decision (also 9-0) “fauxnanimous” meaning that some justices support of the decision was begrudging at best.

  212. If you’re dancing with the devil, don’t expect to lead.

    Funny turn of phrase Poolman as I just heard “dance with the devil” applied today to our history with Saudi Arabia. I don’t know whether it was the 40’s or 50’s but apparently we told Saudi Arabia we’d be their BFF for discounted oil.

    I get the feeling our “exceptional” country is sometimes too clever by half and it comes back to bite us in the ass.

  213. At least they don’t ride no dancey horses.


    Slick Willie really pissed me off when he told David Gregory that he was shocked by how successful he’s been post-presidency.

    You might not like Bill Maher but his advice to Hillary was right on: STFU and go away until end of next year.

  214. Rabbit, I can’t say you didn’t warn me. My kid and I went grocery shopping. I had pulled my car into the intersection when the light turned red and I decided to back myself out of the way of traffic.

    When I came to a stop the driver to my right became agitated. I figured I hadn’t backed up enough and tried to ask him that through closed windows. When I finally rolled my window down, he shouted “hey, is that the new BMW?”

    LOL, my daughter had this mix of excitement and total mortification. As we pulled into the parking lot, she said “Daddy I hope we don’t get carjacked.”

    I guess you’re right Rabbit. This car is getting me attention, perhaps not all good.

    P.S. Hell, when I first drove the car home it was like a freakin’ car commercial. My neighbor and his grand kids gathered around the car and gawked.

  215. I saw a SCOTUS analyst (I don’t remember who she writes for) call this and the abortion protest decision (also 9-0) “fauxnanimous” meaning that some justices support of the decision was begrudging at best.

    Which only goes to prove what I’ve been saying for years. The idea that SCOTUS is most interested in Constitutionality is a joke.

    Obama’s two shams for SCOTUS aren’t interested in interpreting law. They’re bought and paid for Obama bitches doing his bidding – as crooked as he is, with a little man hating, loathing whitey thrown in for good measure from Sotomayor. Kagan is a muff eatin’ misandrist and Obama shill.

  216. “I’m not a global warming cheerleader but I also find it foolish to laugh at 92% of the scientific community.”

    You mean the ludicrous 97% citation in the Zimmerman paper Obama recklessly cites to the unthinking hordes of worshippers?

    Now as an Ivy League math major, one would think you might question such an absurd stat. . . unless they knew you.

    Even though the idiot twitted that the Iraq meltdown is caused by global warming (got that?), with no explanation for the recognized lack of warming for over a decade, you cite the thoroughly debunked Zimmerman to suggest he might be right?

    Well, you are the one that pointed to so-called unprecedented weather trends supposedly occurring outside of window that a two minute Google search of weather data archives immediately contradicted. There’s no stopping the agenda driven mind of a warmist cult adherent, so for the others, here’s a starting point from 2 years ago:

  217. Rutherford, did you know that established science proved that Fins and Sami were not European?

    They were mongols. Back around 1907, Americans sued to get a Fin deported under the Asian Exclusion Act. They do carry some Asian genes, and some like our grand daughter, Renee Zellweger and Joni Mitchel have a few Asian traits. Even today some neighbors call Fins and Sami mongoloid mongrels. Rabbit posted an article about it a while back.

    They are genetically and linguistically different from most Europeans, but they are Europeans. Ironically, they, the Basques, and the Baltic people are closer to being “true Europeans” than most of us. Some populations like the Veps are almost genetically and physically identical to “Cro- Magnon” people.

    Established science ruled that the Clovis point was the oldest human artifact in America. Therefore people moved here about 12,000 to 14,000 years ago. Scientists who questioned the orthodoxy faced derision. Now, we know people may have lived here much farther in the past, and it is even possible people from France may have migrated here.

    Majority science ruled that Neanderthals died out without a trace. Now, we know that they left genetic material with Asians and

    Mars had too little water to support life. The science was settled, but now it isn’t More water exists under the surface than expected and even now, some may flow briefly from under ground. Once in a while, it snows on parts of Mars. Scientists are at least open to the suggestion that life may have existed on Mars and may still live underground.

    Climategate e mails show the scientists wrestling with weather which did not match their predictions. One wrote they needed to “hide the decline.” and to pressure scientific journals to exclude writers who didn’t toe the party line.

    Conventional wisdom tells us that Americans and to a lessor degree, Brits control our music. How many of us know Swedes are major players in the American and world music industry?

    Humans do influence the weather and climate, and we should conserve and reduce the amount of carbon we send into the atmosphere, but the mainstream global warmists are trying to scam us. They are foot soldiers in a campaign to steal our money and freedom in the name of established science.

    Words to the new Icona Pop (a Swedish duo) song describe what many of the scientists working for politically correct grants.are doing. “I’m gonna take the money and run.”

  218. As I’ve said before and will say again.

    I will be willing to listen to these truth mangling AGW types when they begin to live their own lives accordingly and quit hiding behind academic walls, when we discover time & again they’ve been fudging data.

    Get out of the Gulfstream, turn off the electric and move to candle, sell the mansion and buy a log cabin, walk to work. When you Brown Green Shirts have demonstrated to me your own microscopic carbon footprint, then we can talk.

    Until then, I call the religion of AGW a MONSTROUSLY HUGE nothing burger and another PHONY ISSUE President Useful Idiot is using to desperately hide the news of HIS OWN real scandal and abysmal failure on every level.

  219. Have you noticed that basically the only way this White House can get out from under one scandal or controversy is by getting crushed by another? The White House was reeling from the VA scandal, which is why they rolled out the Bergdahl news. They didn’t expect that the Bergdahl story would become so controversial; fortunately they were rescued by the June 6 news of thousands of immigrant children showing up at the border. Hey, quick question: I can’t get my kid out of an airport without her getting messy. Isn’t it strange that all of these kids seem to show up, after a 1,000-mile journey looking so spiffy? Anyway, the immigrant-kid story was pretty brutal for the White House; fortunately they were rescued three days later by the news that ISIS had taken Mosul. The “Who Lost Iraq?” narrative isn’t great for the White House either, which is why it might have been a relief when the IRS announced on June 13 that they lost Lois Lerner’s e-mails. ~ Jonah Goldberg

    I fully expect Rutherford won’t understand this…

  220. For a mere 17% increase in your tuition, you can hear Hillary speak at your college:

    $225,000 speaking fee. Really.


    Rutherford: You have discussed Obama in multiple venues, but you have never disclosed what you think of him in toto. Do you see him as a misunderstood visionary, basically a good guy who is in over his head, evil incarnate? How would you sum up his presidency, and the man himself?

  221. How prescient was Mark Levin in this article (short read) from October 2008?

    Excerpt: There is a cult-like atmosphere around Barack Obama, which his campaign has carefully and successfully fabricated, which concerns me. The messiah complex. Fainting audience members at rallies. Special Obama flags and an Obama presidential seal. A graphic with the portrayal of the globe and Obama’s name on it, which adorns everything from Obama’s plane to his street literature. Young school children singing songs praising Obama. Teenagers wearing camouflage outfits and marching in military order chanting Obama’s name and the professions he is going to open to them. An Obama world tour, culminating in a speech in Berlin where Obama proclaims we are all citizens of the world. I dare say, this is ominous stuff.

    But beyond the elites and the media, my greatest concern is whether this election will show a majority of the voters susceptible to the appeal of a charismatic demagogue.

    And I remember a few others saying basically the same thing to a starry-eyed, giddy dupe and groupie named Rutherford Lawson. I hope he hasn’t conveniently forgotten that…

  222. I think I know how Rutherford would answer Parkers query @ 297 and it would be little more than a rehash of what he has said before.
    What I look forward to is if Rutherford will pen something of an analysis/opinion of Obama when he leaves office.

  223. @ Tex I think the ’08 view of Obama was that they (We) were seeing a JFK redux and thats just something liberals were going to go all gush for hands down.
    Clearly Obama’s first campaign is something one looks back on and can have feelings of vindication of ones clairvoyance. I had an image at my place which I think came from a City Journal piece that totally captured the Obama Messiah stuff.

  224. James,

    I think I posted info that showed the Sami are in no way more Asian then anyone else in Europe. Those traits that look Mongolian in Sami were developed in Europe over time because of a lifestyle exactly like Asiatic nomads on the steppe.

  225. “In actuality, these Mongoloid-like traits do not occur at a higher average rate than they would in other Northern European groups.  It merely appears this way due to the many generations that the Europeans have been farming, an activity that has caused physical features, such as high cheekbones that allow for bigger masseter muscles to chew tougher food, to reduce in size.  Though the Sámi do have some Asian genetic influence, at its highest rate it is only 20-30%, which is no higher than the European average”

  226. James,

    I’m trying to find where I read this but I saw where Sami and Berbers of North Africa are related. So…its apparent that Sami and Berbers are definitely a first wave of people pre Indo European.

  227. Rutherford,

    Nothing good is going come out of that car. You have made your family a target and you don’t have the means to intimidate or defend.

    Now I live in the car jacking epicenter of the U.S. so take it with a grain if salt, but your parts aren’t much better.

    I am mystified you bought a car like that. A real head scratcher, I tell ya.

    You could have bought a used mini van and blended in while watching dividend paying stocks grow.

    My old Blazer has big aggressive tires and is a big two door SUV. It attracts a small amount of attention. I don’t put my kids in it if I drive in Wayne County.

  228. Rabbit, the article you posted said it is an error to identify Sami and Fins as other than European. So did I. The writer used the same 20 to 30% figure I had borrowed from two other articles and had written here. . The question of Finnic peoples’ true identity is still an issue thanks to the Swedish and other scientists who claimed with the certainty of global warmists that Fins were not European. Fins still resent the Swedes.

    At least three waves of farmers migrated from the Middle East and mixed genes with the natives. That didn’t happen in the far north because it was too cold for farming.

    The Fins who probably branched from the Sami were separated from other Europeans by glaciers during the last ice age. Fins eventually migrated south but the Sami stayed in the north. They were separated from other Europeans for as long as 10,000 years. Their culture and religion was similar to Siberians , and they intermingled. Fins returned to the North as other Europeans did when the Ice ‘Age ended.

    During that time, genetic records show they were nearly wiped out twice. It was then that Sami and to a lessor degree, Fins mixed with Asians through the male line. A map locating blond and blue eyed distribution shows Fins, some of the Balts, and mostly central Scandinavians to be the lightest. Northern Finland and neighboring areas have fewer blondes because of the influence of Asian genes. A video of a Sami wedding on YouTube showed a range of colors from extreme blond to dark. Even some of the blonds had Asian eyes and cheek bones.

    Some Scandinavians unknowingly have Sami genes because the Sami people occupied much of the region. Many found it easier to declare themselves to be Norwegians and Swedes.

    People of the far north could not have evolved different traits associated with farming because they never farmed. The Sami people didn’t even keep reindeer herds except for a few used as decoys until several hundred years ago. They were forced to adapt after the Scandinavians began taxing them.

    In spite of their genetic differences northern Europeans through Arabs are genetically more similar than Japanese and Southeast ‘Asians, according to an article I read.

  229. @ Tex I think the ’08 view of Obama was that they (We) were seeing a JFK redux and thats just something liberals were going to go all gush for hands down.

    Maybe a bit.

    But what I witnessed in 2008 was more messianic than JFK, Alfie. Fainting, peeing in their pants, delusions of free rent and gas, crying to Styrofoam columns, talks of abs and creases in pants, genius and athletic ability (the latter makes me laugh out loud).

    Worse, I don’t think JFK thought he was divine. This present malignant narcissist actually did. Now that he’s been proven a total lightweight and thug, a massive failure and fraud, his groupies have reverted back to blaming everyone and everything but Obama.

    It’s pathetic and demonstrates how incredibly immature and deluded most of these Dims really are. They were so gullible to believe Obama actually was a savior, when all along he was Idi Amin without the appetite – 3rd world capability. Joe Biden couldn’t do worse.

    The only people now looking worse than Demagogue Obama and his lackeys in his feckless cabinet, are the dumb clucks that voted for him again in 2012. The absolute dregs of this earth…what magnificent dumbasses.

  230. Rabbit, you might enjoy reading “‘Are the Finns the Mongolians of Europe?” Until the 1960’s, it was widely accepted that Finns originally came from Mongolia. Their neighbors still note the different subtle. appearance of Finns. Swedes still call Fins “mongoloid mongrels” on occasion.

    ” the ferocity of the debate of Finland’s Mongol origins proves whatever Finland’s origins that Fins are very insecure about whether or not they’re really European. ‘the idea that we Finns are Mongoloid is still with us.”

    Joe visits Finland on YouTube shows Finns still tend to resent Swedes.

    Racial and ethnic origins have been politicized just as global warming has been. In both cases, agendas are separate from the truth of national origin or weather changes.

  231. “The writer used the same 20 to 30% figure I had borrowed from two other articles and had written here”

    Yes, but all Europeans are 20 to 30% Asian. The Sami, at the most, are only at the continental average. If anything, Sami are LESS Asian then their European counterparts.

    And the article makes the point that any Asian features seen in the Sami people are NOT because of a link to Siberia or anyone else from Asia. They developed those traits on there own.

    It seems to me you are repeatedly saying the Sami were wrongly pegged as Asian and then you peg them as Asian a few sentenced later.

    They are original Europeans with less outside (Asian) influence then other late comers to Europe.

    I think its possible I’m repeatedly misunderstanding you and we are saying the same thing.

  232. Finally – an answer to that age-old question:

    Why Did The Chicken Cross The Road?

    SARAH PALIN: The chicken crossed the road because, gosh-darn it, he’s a maverick!
    BARACK OBAMA: Let me be perfectly clear, if the chickens like their eggs, they can keep their eggs. No chicken will be required to cross the road to surrender her eggs. Period.
    JOHN McCAIN: My friends, the chicken crossed the road because he recognized the need to engage in cooperation and dialogue with all the chickens on the
    other side of the road.
    HILLARY CLINTON: What difference at this point does it make why the chicken crossed the road.
    GEORGE W. BUSH: We don’t really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to know if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The chicken is either with us or against us. There is no middle ground here.
    DICK CHENEY: Where’s my gun?
    COLIN POWELL: Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see the satellite image of the chicken crossing the road.
    BILL CLINTON: I did not cross the road with that chicken.
    AL GORE: I invented the chicken.
    JOHN KERRY: Although I voted to let the chicken cross the road, I am now against it! It was the wrong road to cross, and I was misled about the chicken’s intentions. I am not for it now, and will remain against it.
    AL SHARPTON: Why are all the chickens white?
    DR. PHIL: The problem we have here is that this chicken won’t realize that he must first deal with the problem on this side of the road before it goes after the problem on the other side of the road. What we need to do is help him realize how stupid he is acting by not taking on his current problems before adding any new problems.
    OPRAH: Well, I understand that the chicken is having problems, which is why he wants to cross the road so badly. So instead of having the chicken learn from his mistakes and take falls, which is a part of life, I’m going to give this chicken a NEW CAR so that he can just drive across the road and not live his life like the rest of the chickens.
    ANDERSON COOPER: We have reason to believe there is a chicken, but we have not yet been allowed to have access to the other side of the road.
    NANCY GRACE: That chicken crossed the road because he’s guilty! You can see it in his eyes and the way he walks.
    PAT BUCHANAN: To steal the job of a decent, hardworking American.
    MARTHA STEWART: No one called me to warn me which way the chicken was going. I had a standing order at the Farmer’s Market to sell my eggs when the price dropped to a certain level. No little bird gave me any insider information.
    DR SEUSS: Did the chicken cross the road? Did he cross it with a toad? Yes, the chicken crossed the road, but why it crossed I’ve not been told.
    ERNEST HEMINGWAY: To die in the rain, alone.
    GRANDPA: In my day we didn’t ask why the chicken crossed the road. Somebody told us the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough
    for us.
    BARBARA WALTERS: Isn’t that interesting? In a few moments, we will be listening to the chicken tell, for the first time, the heart warming story of how it experienced a serious case of molting, and went on to accomplish
    its lifelong dream of crossing the road.
    ARISTOTLE: It is the nature of chickens to cross the road.
    JOHN LENNON: Imagine all the chickens in the world crossing roads together, in peace.
    BILL GATES: I have just released eChicken2014, which will not only cross roads, but will lay eggs, file your important documents and balance your checkbook. Internet Explorer is an integral part of Chicken 2014. This new platform is much more stable and will never reboot.
    ALBERT EINSTEIN: Did the chicken really cross the road, or did the road move beneath the chicken?
    COLONEL SANDERS: Did I miss one?

  233. James….where did you that when the Finns/Sami were almost wiped out they intermingled with Siberians and there gene pool was forever changed?

  234. I heard Cheney say the Benghazi mastermind should be treated as a POW and kept at Gitmo “until the war is over.”


    I’m beginning to think Cheney isn’t so much evil as he is a total fucking idiot.

  235. What difference, at this point, does it make?

    Why are you so focused on what Cheney says? That’s the Obama/MSNBC misdirection shit you claim not to watch coming out. With all that’s going on, this what captures your attention?

  236. They’re bought and paid for Obama bitches doing his bidding – as crooked as he is, with a little man hating, loathing whitey thrown in for good measure from Sotomayor. Kagan is a muff eatin’ misandrist and Obama shill.

    Tex before our association is through you are gonna start your own blog. You have the time. You lack the discipline but that can be fixed. The only condition is the blog must be a barn burner along the lines of the above excerpt. Only you can string a set of insults together in a way that makes Don Rickles look like a teddy bear.

  237. Tigre I wasn’t giving lip service to any connection between Iraq and global warming. I find that absurd. I was just questioning your wholesale rejection of the science.

  238. I can’t find where Dick Cheney has set that position. I have found McCain,Graham and Cruz have been strident about it though. I have also seen where the Left has pumped the dog about federal prosecutions over military tribunals.
    Something I find funny about the whole thing is this:
    Cruz makes a good point that it was US special forces (military) who apprehended the guy acting on information gathered via CIA actions. Not the FBI,US Marshals or anything resembling civilian law enforcement.
    The flip side is that the lefts lunging at Gitmo and tribunals and rendition and all that stuff seems at odds with the military going wherever it wants and plucking other other countries nationals and putting them before a US Federal judge and what will likely be US taxpayer paid residency at Colorado Super Max.

  239. Oh Rutherford, you flatter me. 😈

    It better come quick then. Because the day my sweetie retires, or gets retired, which ever comes first, I’m going to be an infrequent guest much less blog host. Bet I could pen a vile enough post to get a number of hits, though. LOL! It’s possible thousands of Fat Granny types would slither out of the woodwork.

    If I lose my healthcare thanks to Senior Al-Baracka, I’ll be real infrequent – because I better get off my shiftless ass and find a job with benefits, if that is even a possibility anymore.

    I told my wife that since she’s now in position to be permanently replaced with half her salary, if they offer a package like they used to, jump on it.

    And being my daughter is now a 4th year med student this week, Mrs. Taylor staying in Katy – close enough to reach out – becomes a little less palatable for me to reside in boredom a decade this August.

    Time to move on from purgatory. Tell you one thing, Rutherford. I have absolutely zero ambition anymore. That can’t be healthy. Bet you’re not much different. I think corporate politics finally took it out of me.

  240. @ Rutherford not to pile on as I’m trying to be a “to each his own” kind of guy but…. Do you have a garage & at least one other car?
    I certainly hope the answer to both is YES.
    If it means anything you fall solidly in the BMW marketing spectrum. You’re a pioneer helping the Germans and Tesla bring EV’s to the masses since the economy labels can’t do it.You confess to “range anxiety”. I think you’re more likely to face vandalism than a jacking. The one good thing about EV is that as long as they’re labelled clearly who the fuck is gonna try to nick one? That would make you look pretty stupid in jail. “What you do” “I stole a car” “How they catch you” “Man fucking battery died,I shoulda read the badges man”

  241. I wholeheartedly agree with Alfie, Rutherford. Unless you got money to burn, that car may end up being a bigger pain that the attention it brings you. At least, it always did for me.

    That’s one reason I, the once car aficionado, finally gave up owning anything half way nice. If somebody was not stealing the car, they were backing into it, throwing their door into it, pushing their grocery cart into it.

    Add to the fact the car will be worth half of what you paid for it 36-48 months from now, cars are even more hassle than a house.

  242. You have discussed Obama in multiple venues, but you have never disclosed what you think of him in toto. Do you see him as a misunderstood visionary, basically a good guy who is in over his head, evil incarnate? How would you sum up his presidency, and the man himself?

    I think the key 2008 criticism of Obama that I should have heeded was lack of experience. He just didn’t have the resume to prepare him for the job. Bush 43 did not have the resume of his father he had to rely on advisors who destroyed his reputation.

    The same can be said of Obama especially illustrated by the botched Obamacare rollout, the VA and IRS scandals where his subordinates don’t have his back.

    Everyone thinks “yes we can” and tingles up the leg is a substitute for the heavy lifting of government. Contrary to what others here think, 30 years from now Obama will be ranked in the 22-33 range of presidents. Mediocre.

  243. Contrary to what others here think, 30 years from now Obama will be ranked in the 22-33 range of presidents. Mediocre.

    That’s Leftist historians doing the ranking. Those living under this sham will rank him dead last. Obama couldn’t make a fruit salad. He’s failed in every conceivable capacity. The worst…making Harding look like George Washington.

    I’ve decided Obama is simply stupid and naive. Throw in his delusions of grandeur, he becomes unsufferable.

  244. Tell you one thing, Rutherford. I have absolutely zero ambition anymore. That can’t be healthy. Bet you’re not much different. I think corporate politics finally took it out of me.

    Tex I lack professional ambition anymore. But I’m kinda like Lenny in Of Mice and Men — a simpleton longing for a simple calm retirement. I have dreams of what it will be like and a knowledge that it will never come to pass.

  245. “I have dreams of what it will be like and a knowledge that it will never come to pass.”

    Dude….you pissed away a good chunk of a simple retirement on that fancy car.

  246. I have dreams of what it will be like and a knowledge that it will never come to pass.

    I don’t know. Maybe the in-laws kick the bucket, inherit a chunk of change, and you can buy an 850 to go with the Cube. 😛

    Look at it this way. You’d have the fanciest ride there is on the AAA Parking Lot.

  247. Dude….you pissed away a good chunk of a simple retirement on that fancy car.

    A simple retirement in Buttfuck, Mississippi maybe. With all due respect, that wasn’t part of the dream.

  248. A simple retirement in Buttfuck, Mississippi maybe. With all due respect, that wasn’t part of the dream.

    Chicago was? 🙂 Trust me, I’ve been to Buttfuck, MS. It’s a far site more livable than Shitcago. We’re going to have to get you out more.

  249. Tex I actually don’t live in Chicago nor would I want to. My ideal retirement locale would not match yours but I don’t think EITHER of us want to end our days in Buttfuck, Mississippi.

  250. Rutherford……My idea and your idea of simple are far a part. I want to retire in the sticks.

    Nature and tranquility……….not strip malls or hipster gentrification.

    Little golf on a shitty country course, little fishing….sitting in the woods and watching the seasons go by. Cable tv for sports. Internet for the Rutherford Lawson blog. That’s all I need.

    I was supposed to go to Chicago and visit some cosmopolitan friends. Wife and I were going to go to a concert, get a nice hotel….go out to eat. Kids stay with aunt.

    We canceled. Neither of us wanted to go. We’re just going to a Water Park with the kids and hanging out in my back woods dump for a night. Have a bonfire.

    The stars alone are worth living in Bum Fuck Mississippi! When is the last time you looked at the sky in rural America? I used to love the city. Now it offers me nothing.

  251. rabbit, ” Finish heritage disease” in Wikipedia says Finns have about 40 rare diseases which are not restricted to them but are more common in Finns because of their genetic isolation. Other diseases more common elsewhere are rare among the Finns.

    It is blamed on a population bottleneck about 4000 years ago. “”this bottleneck resulted in an exceptionally low diversity in the y chromosome estimated to reflect the survival of just two ancestral male lineages.”

    “Paternal and maternal DNA lineages reveal a bottleneck in the founding of the Fnish population.”

    Relatively few men and women have contributed to modern Finish characteristics The most likely assumption is most of the ancestors died.

    “Sami Culture”

    “The origin and genetic background of the Sami”:

    The writer says that like the Finns, Sami have only two major founding male lineages. This indicates a possible massive reduction of population that left few individuals to repopulate the area. Both Finns and Sami were isolated from other Europeans for generations. Sami people may have been separated for up to several thousand years

    The Sami are probably the parent population of the Finns. They probably separated about 23,000 years ago and reunited near the end of the ice age around 9.000 years ago.

    “Extensive genetic testing has helped put an end to the false conclusion that came from biased studies based on everything from tooth size to skull shape.” Finns and Sami may have originated from an older population which diverged from other Europeans prior to later linguistic and cultural diversification, Many place names are so old that they are part of no known language.

    Discover “Gene Expression”

    “The Men of the North;’ The Sami” The Sami genome shows an Asian connection. In fact there are some similarities to American Indians. ” This study affirms an east Asian contribution to the predominantly Europe- derived Sami gene pool.”

    While Finns and Sami are Europeans, the possible Siberian origin of the Finnic languages is still debatable.

    I shouldn’t pollute this site with something few care about but it is more enjoyable to me than the sickening spectiacle of hero worshiping news people and a naked emperer.

  252. Nature and tranquility……….not strip malls or hipster gentrification.

    Fine I’ll submit myself to abuse once again. The dream is a condo in Harvard Square, with a big-ass kitchen. We attend the occasional lecture. In the good weather we sit at an outdoor cafe and watch the eager optimistic youth from all over the world scurry about and we cook together in our big ass kitchen.

    No strip mall but yes not your kind of thing Rabbit. To each his own.

    BTW the part my wife doesn’t like is my no longer cutting my hair. I want a big head of curly white hair to go with my grey beard. An aging hipster. My wife has not bought into that part of the dream yet. 🙂 It’s funny that you guessed the hipster part of my dream. You know me better than I thought.

  253. R – I read this evening that the Islamist nut cases have declared a “caliphate” in Iraq and Syria. Fine – let them do whatever the hell they want. Now is the time for America to keep its head and not get drawn into another unwinnable conflict. GET OUT!

    They will simply drag these countries back into the 5th century A.D. and will be so technologically backward that they are no threat. Pull your troops out. Work on nuclear or thorium energy. Get off Arab oil. Let them eat their oil. For once, don’t be fools. You’ve tried; now don’t throw good lives after bad.

    On another front, the link between unwed motherhood and poverty reaffirmed. And with more than 3/4 of black babies born out of wedlock in America, here is where you can help your ‘people’ because here’s your problem:

  254. Ruthrford, a local small farmer who was barely hanging on because his holding were too small, sold his bean crop when the Russian wheat deal sent bean prices from $3.00 per bushel to over $12.00 per bushel.

    He had been poor all of his life, and the first thing he die with his earnings was to buy the nicest new car he could afford. He also bought and paid for another sixty acres of land. It was the only new car he owned.

    Parker, the Jihadist history is that they like technology and use it to advance their cause. The society may send its social mores into the eighth century but it will be using the internet and modern weapons.

    Our season is still late. We are getting the severe weather usually reserved for May and April. Two severe thunderstorms developed over us yesterday evening, and another is 10 miles south this morning . A tornadic storm is racing toward our general direction.

    We have had over 2 inches of rain since yesterday, and June’s total is 12.59 so far. That is a record, and is far from the highest amount. Omaha and Sioux City have had more rain than we.

    A Union Pacific official speculated on sending some of this water to Nevada and California.

  255. You know how I have been warping our grand daughter’s mind with music videos and my wife has been playing symphony music. Our daughter said they went the Texas Road House on Friday evening.

    She is only one, but she has begun to beat a ball point pen rythmaticaly.

    The staff line dances to entertain the customers. The line dance was by the family’s table. Our grand daughter suddenly began shrieking, clapping her hands and gyrating to the music. Her performance was so spectacular that the half of the restaurant near their table watched her instead of the line dancers.Then, the line dancers watched her as they performed.

    Many said what a cute baby she was. One man walked over and gave her a high five.

  256. I’ve pretty much concluded, and it pains me to agree with the “bloke”, let Iraq and Syria burn….

    They had their chance. They chose poorly.

    I don’t agree they are no threat. Everyone of the Caliphate types that land on our shores are a dangerous threat. Nothing more dangerous than a man willing to die, believing he is killing the infidel and virtuous in doing so.

  257. Where have all the jobs gone?

    On the jobs front, it feels to many Americans that the recession never ended. One of the misleading headlines from last month’s employment report was that all the jobs lost during the recession have finally been won back.
    Well, not really.

    According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), in 2007 on the eve of the recession, there were 146.6 million Americans working. Today, there are 145.8 million Americans in jobs. So nearly 7 years later, we are still 800,000 jobs below the previous peak. That’s some jobs recovery.

    But the missing jobs in this economic recovery are much higher than that. A new analysis of the labor force numbers by Heritage Foundation economists places the real jobs deficit in America closer to 5.5 million, even after accounting for changes in population and demographics.

    As we enter our 6th Recovery Summer, Let’s Give a Shout Out to our Magnificent Mediocre President! Yes We Can!

  258. As I wrote and alfie clarified, some of the jobs are going to illegal and legal immigrants.

    While I wish we could abandon Iraq, we can’t. Those peoples’ ultimate goal is to convert or kill us.

    Obama and the labor unions are having a bad day, I hope.

  259. A new severe thunderstorm watch extends from near Grand Island, Ne to Iowa City Ia until 6PM Up here, we are also still in a tornado watch until noon.

  260. Hobby Lobby went against Obama. I am a little surprised but the scope of the opinion remains to be seen (by me at least).

  261. It was either going to be 5-4, or 4-5. The limp-wristed male feminist and the three man hating women vs. the First Amendment. Always the same.

    All that remained was whether Roberts caved.

    I honestly don’t know the scope, but was hoping it wasn’t just abortifacients – just to piss the Left off even further.

  262. Excerpt:

    How weird the result: the anti-American Maliki pining for American arms from the escapist American president who lords his American power over others even as he ankles bites the very foundations of such power. Anti-American Latin American governments export their precious youth to the hated U.S., where its oppressive government will take care of them in a way the benevolent socialism at home did not, and the new arrivals will in time become hyphenated Americans with supposedly justified grievances against a largely racist and prejudicial society.

    😆 😆 😆

    Tell me that isn’t the truth and sheer poetry.

  263. “I don’t know how much more time he thinks he needs, but I hope that Speaker Boehner will speak up today,” Durbin said. “And if he does not, the president will borrow the power that is needed to solve the problems of immigration and he shouldn’t be sued as a result of it.”” – DICK Durbin

    What the fuck is he talking about? Borrow?

  264. I know everyone is waiting with baited breath for my response to James over Sami DNA so I apologize for taking so long.

    James you are correct. There are genes in Sami related to Siberians. In fact, Japanese and Korean. What is interesting is the specific Asian stock in the Sami is distinct from Asian stock in most Europeans (although….there is in fact LESS Asian stock in Sami compared to the average European.

  265. “And if he does not, the president will borrow the power that is needed to solve the problems of immigration and he shouldn’t be sued as a result of it”

    It’s a threat. Much like the one Rutherford made a few months ago. I’m convinced there is a thick vein in the Liberal camp who actually are pro Totalitarian.

    Dangerous people.

  266. Rutherford, your retirement fantasy cracks me up. That’s not a retirement plan, that’s the urge to form a new identity!

    With all due respect, you are not an intellectual. You aren’t even well read! (I’m not trying to insult you as much as it sounds like it).

    You even have an “image” of yourself with long hair and grey beard. LOL.

    Diogenes….wandering the campus….before retiring to his den of leather bound books.

    Let me guess…you are going to nail the Triple Lindy.

  267. If Rutherford wants to be a homeless guy wandering around Harvard Square with a can of sterno and plenty of space to light it, who are you to judge, maaaaaan.

  268. I was just thinking that the good beer that I assume is to be found on tap in Cambridge gives some merit to his plan.

  269. Parker, James is right. They’re philosophically prehistoric but not technologically. Besides, all it took were some box cutters and some flight lessons to kill 3000+ Americans.

    We need to stop nation building (and interfering) and go full time anti-terror. And our slogan to each country in the region should be “if you can’t control your terrorists, we will with or without your permission.”

  270. Damn…Rutherford’s suggestion and my suggestion kind of intersect. Kind of…

    I didn’t know you had kiss ass in your arsenal, big guy. 😉 I like you. I’m going to keep an eye on you, Rodney.


    Huck and Poolman have often ragged on me for taking a ‘biased’ side with Israel against Islam and that is true. And I believe I have been wrong in my personal assessment. Islam is even more backwards and brutal than even I imagined. The myth of ‘moderate’ Muslim now needs to be called. Either put up or shut up Muslims. Start dragging out these monsters that “pervert” your religion, or stick a sock in it and join the posse.

    Today, Israel found three of their young adults murdered by Hamas, eighteen days after they went missing. I’ve never met a Jew that wanted to kill my children. Not so much as even a threat.

    I’ve heard and seen video of a lot of Muslims that would do so and believe Allah called them to do it.

    So, I’m left with two choices. Either we annihilate them, or they can annihilate themselves. And from the looks of it, I’m content to let the Sunnis kill the Shiites and be killed in the process for a start. But the clash of the civilizations awaits.

  271. rabbit, isn’t discussing obscure genetic subjects better than worrying about our so-called leaders?

    Specific Asian stock in Sami is distinctive because it is much older. This is just my opinion based on observation. Sami people and to a lessor degree, Fins have more Asian traits than the average European whether or not other Europeans carry more Asian genes. Singer Sofia Jannok is blond with blue eyes, but at certain angles, her face resembles our Korean daughter-in law’s face. Her father is dark with Inuit traits. The average Swede looks different. But are all of the apparent physical similarities related to Asia?

    Some writers say a few of what appear to be Asian physical characteristics are in reality Cro- Magnon features. The Northerners did not mix well with newcomers who brought farming.

    Jousnen Jareved, a Russian Vep band would have us believe they are the last of the Cro Magnons with a record contract.

  272. re: Israel. It’s really easy to figure out how it plays. A little thought experiment is all it takes. (This is not original to me.)

    If the Arabs laid down their weapons tonight, tomorrow would dawn unchanged.

    If the Israelis laid down their weapons tonight, the sun would rise tomorrow on a scene of genocide – men, women, children alike.

    You couldn’t hold all Israeli scientific and cultural accomplishments in a large stadium. Near as I can tell, all the Islamists have ever invented is a novel way to hang people by hoisting them with construction cranes. Wow. Bonzer.

    I’m with the Jews and civilization.

  273. Yeah PFaker. You said that before:

    PFesser | September 20, 2012 at 1:59 am

    “Here’s what you are missing: If all the arabs that hate Israel were to disarm tomorrow morning, nothing – and I mean nothing – would happen. If the Israelis were to disarm tomorrow, they would be annihilated. The only thing that prevents a full-scale assault is the belief that Israel has nuclear weapons. That fill in the blanks for you?”

    But of course, it didn’t originate with you. Maybe a Wikipedia entry will prove it’s just another coincidence? 😆

  274. There is an awful lot of circular logic happening in this place. Obviously nobody here has studied the Talmud or read the Protocols, let alone the Qur’an. The radicals from all Abramaic faiths are not following the path given them in their Holy books. But then we are very familiar with how supposed ‘Christians’ have misinterpreted the scriptures throughout history and use them to justify all sorts of ungodly acts. Of course when your news source is a mossad front, you shouldn’t expect unbiased reporting. Ignored is the fact that we have armed and trained all these radicals either directly or by proxy.

  275. Remember the outrage that flowed from this forum a few weeks back when an IDF soldier shot 2 Palestinian boys in the back?

    Yeah…me either….

    Remember when the IDF collectively punished Israeli settlers when 1 of them assassinated an Israeli Prime Minister?

    Yeah…me either….

    The high horse hypocrisy here makes me sick.

    Save your outrage..I’m still out…

  276. Large groups of youths throwing rocks at armed soldiers will, in a hostile environment, probably amount to 3 to 4 shootings a year.

    Total guess on my part.

    That is, of course, if the soldiers are reasonably civilized. After all…..those Jordanians didn’t show that kind of restraint….killed thousands of the rock throwers. That was a Black September, all right.

    My gosh….is that more deaths then both the 1st and 2nd Intafadas combined?

    Back to the killed rock throwers…Not saying it was right, though.

    Can’t wait for the internal investigation report from Hamas on the three backpacking teenagers who were slaughtered……Oh I forgot…it will never happen.

  277. Now Rabbit. Don’t bring up the obvious to Mr. UN – a testament to the depravity and idiocy. Speaking of UN, maybe Huck can graft a little oil money for food when he’s interning…maybe even if he’s lucky he can sit on the Human Rights Council as apprentice with Hamas. too. Truly a world peace organization of Obama like magnanimity.

    Why those little Pali buggers were just chunking a few large rocks when they weren’t launching rockets into the schoolyard. About 1,200 of them a year into Sderot alone last year. So what? Right Huck?

    If it had me with all those defenseless little Pali boys chunking rocks and I had an automatic weapon, they’d all be laying dead in the streets – back, head, ass. Don’t matter to me. They’d all bleed…every last mofoing one of them.

    Out my ass. 😈 That fat, pretentious bastard is so easy to bait I don’t even need a worm. Just his name associated with Jew batin’ brings him slithering back.

    Allahu Akbar, Huck! C’est la vie.

  278. Anyone who expects this to get worked out between Israel or the Palestinians is just an ignorant fool. It won’t happen.

    Israel’s reaction is almost always overkill, but that is because they have this extreme oversensitivity to death. Granted, that’s probably what happens when 6+ million of your people are rounded up and slaughtered, but that doesn’y change the fact that Israeli’s are overly sensitive to casualties.

    The Palestinians have no such sensitivities. Casualties play no part in their calculations, unless to serve as an example of Israeli aggression, in which case the “casualties” become important data sets. Any population that embraces and raises their children to embrace martyrdom and death is not going top be sensitive to casualties.

    So, how does it get fixed? It won’t be the UN, which is one of the most anti-Semitic organizations out there, if only because they put states like Iran and Libya on the Human Rights Council…. Legitimacy? Clockwise motion down the porcelain throne…

    In my opinion, it only gets fixed by a united Arab position through negotiation with Israel. The Palestinians can’t do this, and they’ve demonstrated that fact over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over………. Syria or Lebanon won’t matter, or play for that matter, but a position led by Jordan, supported by the GCC and fully endorsed by Saudi Arabia will probably finally make this work, but only if these states become the guarantor of the Palestinian peoples actions.

    It always amazes me how much the rest of the Arab world can’t stand Palestinians–they really can’t–but will hold them up when it is geopolitically convenient.

  279. Israel is an affront to the Muslims. They still want to remove Israel from our plane of existence. Moreover, a majority wants to convert the rest of us to Islam. Israelis remember their history and will do whatever they must to keep their homes.

    It is a recipe for extremism on both sides, and nothing will change until all of this generation dies without sending its attitudes to the next generation.

    The Dandy Warhols-Sleep 2000-Thirteen Tales from Urban Bohemia on rayoflightcanada Youtube. shows us little has changed in a century, nor will it. Outrage is a waste of energy.

  280. I feel like there are sharks in the water and while I know that most of them won’t hurt me I can’t tell the difference and I don’t want to stick around to find out. I suppose that’s the terrorized part of me talking.

  281. I like the article Parker linked to . If Rutherford was a progressive we would have to kidnap him and send him to a re
    education resort.

    If anyone could prove that Santa and his elves exist and are exploiting third world children in toy factories, Poolman could do it.

  282. “We need to stop nation building (and interfering) and go full time anti-terror. And our slogan to each country in the region should be “if you can’t control your terrorists, we will with or without your permission.” “

    Well at least you’re not all wrapped up in the “please like us” blanket that most of your friends on the left are. Now if you can get away from the “follow Europe’s lead” down the toilet you might just get to retire in relative comfort at that.

    But I doubt it.

    I agree that intelligence should be our greatest weapon but there aren’t that many wise people left in office to select the right people to run the agencies. So the agencies have all deteriorated to partisan bureaucratic balloons.

    Moreover the elections process is wrecked and that means shit for representatives from the top down.

  283. You can’t buy spray paint in the city of Chicago. Can’t even order it through a store.

    Bah. At least there are no spiders or skeeters.

  284. Not saying all of this is truly where I sit but I felt like tossing this particular grenade into the room…

    Bibi is a war monger and he has been itching to ramp up operations on Hamas for some time now. The average Israeli is an incredible creature. They have an acceptance of morbidity and mortality that makes Londoners and Ulster folks of the Troubles years look like nobody’s and I can tell you that is a powerful thing.
    It is exactly why Netanyahu and those like minded are so frustrated,their own people have such a desire for different tactics it drives the Old Guard nuts.
    This isn’t to discount that Hamas,with a focus on those in Hebron, have not otherwise given Bibs stuff to act on,its just the IDF was going to need something flashier and hope this helps.Operation Brothers Keeper.
    Heres the rub though. The only folks this is going to help is Hamas. Short term,middle and long ADVANTAGE Hamas.

  285. “We need to stop nation building (and interfering) and go full time anti-terror. And our slogan to each country in the region should be “if you can’t control your terrorists, we will with or without your permission.

    For fucks sake R what rock did you just drive a German EV out from under????
    Perhaps I am just using different guidelines but I’d debate any number of our 21st and 20th Century adventures being actual “nation building”.
    Also we are clearly,totally and Obama committed to an all out on terror trip that is heavy on the no permissions meal plan.
    Our problem is we’ve completely and perhaps irreversibly fucked up how we interact with others and gel our interests. It is for this reason China is enjoying entry into so many regions.

  286. A picture of the rubble pile that used to be home to Palestinians in the supposed promised land.

    Lovely people these destroyers of property and supporters of genocide…

  287. By the way. I discovered today that the Christian bigoted SPLC and I actually have something in common.

    We both have determined Veterans Today a blatantly anti-Semitic hate group and closely affiliated with Stormfront.

    No wonder it’s Heinrich Poolman’s favorite site. That way you can equate IDF soldiers shooting thugs that cut baby’s throats as one in the same.


    Genocide? Surely you jest. Israel could lay waste to the entire Middle East if they so chose.

    Poolman, you’re not only a fool and a parasite. You’re a stupid, uneducated buffoon.

  288. Let me demonstrate the kind spirit of the people that Poolman and Huckhead defend as they continue to excuse murder.

    How about indoctrination of new generations of small children to hate Jews? Does that count?

    Can any of you fine gentlemen find something of moral equivalency of Jewish children being taught to hate Palestinians?

  289. It always amazes me how much the rest of the Arab world can’t stand Palestinians–they really can’t–but will hold them up when it is geopolitically convenient.

    Say, something along the lines of White Leftists secretly hating profoundly ignorant negroes under the banner of African-Americans while they pander for votes?

    I only wish Rutherford could have heard some of the conversations I did in while taking my latest stroll through Higher Ed. Abortion is a sacrament; and dependency a necessity – both which center around control, power and elections.

  290. Speaking of complete abdication of moral authority and trustworthiness, how about some blatant hypocrisy from the Left’s loudest voice: The New York Times.


    “Three years ago the Supreme Court threw away decades of precedent and watered down the religious liberty of all Americans. . . . By radically changing the ground rules for deciding claims of religious liberty, the Court alarmed organized religion, civil liberties organizations of all stripes and Senators as different in outlook as Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts and Orrin Hatch of Utah. . . . The Religious Freedom Restoration Act reasserts a broadly accepted American concept of giving wide latitude to religious practices that many might regard as odd or unconventional. The bill deserves passage. . . . With the Restoration Act, Congress asserts its own interest in protecting religious liberty. It’s a welcome antidote to the official insensitivity to religion the Court spawned in 1990.”–editorial, New York Times, Oct. 25, 1993

    “The Supreme Court’s deeply dismaying decision on Monday in the Hobby Lobby case swept aside accepted principles of corporate law and religious liberty. . . . It was the first time the court has allowed commercial business owners to deny employees a federal benefit to which they are entitled by law based on the owners’ religious beliefs, and it was a radical departure from the court’s history of resisting claims for religious exemptions from neutral laws of general applicability.”–editorial, New York Times, July 1, 2014



    On what grounds can the Obama administration classify what diseases are being found at the border?

    If even only 10% of that article is true we have a major problem on our hands.

    And its not just the humanitarian crisis Obama is responsible for either.

    Rutherford didn’t even know what was happening at the border. After two weeks he admitted he learned the truth and also admitted MSNBC did a good job of down playing it.

    But…ever since…nary a peep.

    I am not some xenophobic Know Nothing turd. I have no problem with immigration. Hell…technically…I’m a second generation immigrant!

    But there is no way in hell a deal can be made with these liar fucks in the Democratic Party. Anything they come up with needs to be rejected.

    If they were even half honest I’d be all in for full amnesty and a sealed border with immigration from this day forward being orderly, humane and guided by law. Solved.

    But…you can’t make a deal with an Executive Branch like this.

    They are ruthless liars.

  292. Ha….good one with the Times, Tex.

    I also read today that NOW recently voted down a declaration that would merely point out that Shari’a law is not cool for the ladies.

    They won’t even write a 3 sentence paragraph on the realities of Shari’a Law.

    The cowardice and hypocrisy on the left is fascinating to me.

  293. I just heard that this is the anniversary of Hillary’s being fired from the Watergate Committee for lying stealing documents and other offenses. Some things never change.

    An analyst for the Rand Corporation said on KFAB that Bush signed into law that children from non contiguois nations could move to the US. The Obama people found the loop hole and they are using it for political reasons.

    Bush signed the status of forces taking our troops out by 2011. The Iraqis and our military leaders wanted the deadline extended, and maybe renegotiated. Politics prevented them from acting. Obama didn’t want anything to do with the war so he threw away our hard-won gains for politics and ideology.

    Pick a subject from health insurance on. When progressives are in power, people die. It has been so since before Woodrow Wilson. Those folks were heavily influenced by the same German writers who influenced the Nazis.

    Its find to tell ourselves what terrible people they are, but nothing will change until they are gone. No you can’t make a deal with these” ruthless bastards” because it is akin to selling your soul to the devil.

  294. I discovered that the song “Hang on Sloopy” the Ohio state rock song was based on a real person, Norma Sloop who was born in 1913.She was a jazz singer who often performed in New Orleans. She was also from Ohio.

    My mind wanders if I think too much of the devolution of our country.

  295. Raji,

    That’s got a sting to the genuflecting rubes of Yes We Can!!! 😈

    Rutherford will ever hold, even if America should fall under Obama, to the ideals of Obama just a “mediocre” President, and then only because Obama wasn’t able to push through a non compliant Congress a much more ‘progressive’ policy.

  296. MSNBC this morning was offering up the “only history can judge a president” meme. . . again. That’s the response to how much Obama sucks from the left. They’ll go to their graves before admitting what fools they were for all of the hero-worshipping creepiness.

    “We Are What We’ve Been Waiting For.”

  297. The article Poolman posted about the awful things Israel has done to us included their effort to influence the election to get Jimmy Carter defeated. If true, it outweighs at least ten of their other sins.

    If only they could have influenced the last election to save Jimmy’s place in historyve, our world under Romney would have been better than it is..

    Obama still has time to make his record even better\

    Unlike other presidents, Obama is lawless and holds the Constitution in law regard. Unless he uses a pretext to declare himself president for life, Obama will be gone at the end of his term. He has few constraints.

    He is the first lame duck who isn’t.

  298. Anyone want to save me some time and tell me how far I need to scroll up to read Tex’s outrage over the kidnapping, torture, and mutilation of the Palestinian boy whose body was found in Jerusalem today?

    Do you think Bibi will order the perpetrator’s homes destroyed once his “investigation” into the matter is concluded?

  299. I thought you were out, Huckhead? 😈 And I suppose you got proof the Jews did it?

    Or are we just to assume guilty until proven innocent like Obama?

    You’re reading more Lefty Dim every day. You’ll make a fine drone for the UN.

  300. State actors is apropos, since acting in front of a camera plays a major role. If it’s so easy to see that line, where is it?
    Maybe it’s the designated state border? Nope, they don’t have that. How about a state constitution outlining their rights and intents? Nope, they don’t have that.
    Maybe it’s following the rules established by the UN? No, again. Seems they have ignored over a hundred rulings against them.
    I conclude the line is imaginary and moves wherever and whenever convenient.

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  302. Here in Oklahoma with are POS local rag’s blessing, the HHS has countered that my representative Jim Bridenstine can’t see the children being housed by the HHS. They told him he can come back July 21st for a ‘guided tour’ with the HHS’s blessing that he can apply for by email.

    This in the reddest of red states. You want to talk about fascist government and complicit media for fascism?

    Sooner or later, we’re going to war boys or we’re going to lose this country to the gaystapo and corrupt, thuggish Leftists.

  303. I saw that, Tex. Deeply disturbing.

    I wish one of the optimistic wizards would make some sense out of that.

  304. Tex, he should demand access until they either get out of his way or the least transparent administration in American history arrests him live on CSPAN.

  305. Three weeks? By email? And a representative of an entire district footing the bill for the care, being exposed to God only knows what with something obviously illegal?

    I certainly hope that your insinuation is that though you don’t find that abnormal for a thuggish administration, it’s to be expected, or something.

    That’s Gestapo tactics, Alfie. That’s what totalitarian regimes do.

  306. I thought Obama may go down simply as failed experiment – a naive and ignorant public electing a average community activist because they don’t know better. Not much more.

    After reading what many of these people crossing the border are potentially carrying, Obama’s legacy may go down the purveyor of pestilence and disease.

    Fitting for this demonic man and his equally abhorrent spouse.

  307. Hey tt – you wanted to secede and felt your “states” would be more successful than other parts of the country. Are you sure?

    “The Great Recession and Not-So-Great Recovery have been bad news for most Americans, but some people have suffered more than others. We call those people “Southerners.”

    North Carolina and a handful of other Southern U.S. states saw the biggest increases in the number of people living in what are known as “poverty areas” between 2000 and 2010, according to a new Census Bureau report. Poverty areas are places where more than 20 percent of the people live below the federal poverty line, which varies by family size. For a family of four, the poverty line in most states is an annual income of $23,850.

    Today, 25.7 percent of all Americans live in such areas, up from 18.1 percent in 2000, according to the report. Having a quarter of the nation living this way is a problem: Poverty areas are typically marked by “higher crime rates, poor housing conditions, and fewer job opportunities,” the report points out.”…..

  308. my phone is screwing up…sorry about that.

    Alfie… think its fine and dandy for the federal government to set up an ad hoc refugee camp full of illegal immigrants, possibly diseased, and ban the local rep from checking out what the flying fuck is going on for three weeks?

    This America. Not China.

    Dude wants to check out what is going on. He represents that community. That is it.

    Pretty infuriating…

  309. “We Are What We’ve Been Waiting For.”

    Well Tigre you have to admit no truer words were said. This is the truth about this country. We choose our leaders from the President on down. We ultimately have no one to blame but ourselves.

  310. “Well Tigre you have to admit no truer words were said. This is the truth about this country. We choose our leaders from the President on down. We ultimately have no one to blame but ourselves.”

    What do you mean WE, Kimosabe?

    That was one of the dumb ass Obama campaign slogans that morons rose to their feet to cheer.

    I wasn’t cheering. I was doubled over wondering how people could be so fucking stupid.

    You’ve got no one to blame but yourself. Everything that’s happened and what Obama has proved to be was predictable to anyone with a lick of sense (i.e. not peeing their pants of the their new idol like possessed teenage girls at a Bieber concert).

    Cults of personality destroy nations.

  311. alfie, our military bases sometimes held squadron and base surprise inspections which differed from the regular we prepared for. That Representative is part of one of the co- equal branches of our government. Such a person should be able to visit any government facility any time unless there is a very good reason,.

    Lurker, the article supports the supposition that our economy has declined since Obama has held power. It would be more instructive for the writer to tell us why the disparity exists.

    For example,

    You will notice the Heartland, especially the northern plains has fared relatively well. Even during the worst of the recession, our area had relatively low unemployment rates and a more robust economy.

    The basic contributions of energy and -agricultural economic features have helped .Most of the governments are conservative and most of the people react conservativly. Hence they did not plunge so deeply into the real estate pit that some other regions did,.

    What is the difference between the South and New England?

    We have helped with a local food pantry for several years, and my wife has written grants to help fund it. It has a territory of over sixty miles. We have noticed more customers,so even in our part of the woods, people are struggling.

  312. I agree with ElTigre. What do you mean “WE”?

    “I know a man
    who speaks the language of another class
    he sees nothin’ in the looking glass

    Other people teach you what you are
    You believe them as a rule
    While your name for him is beautiful
    His name for you is fool.


    Progressives “gave me mine
    At the time I took it casually
    Is that all they really thought of me?

    Names,Tags,Labels Albert Hammond with a couple of changes

  313. Hey tt – you wanted to secede and felt your “states” would be more successful than other parts of the country. Are you sure?

    “The Great Recession and Not-So-Great Recovery have been bad news for most Americans, but some people have suffered more than others. We call those people “Southerners.”

    See JAL, this is what you get for trying to be clever an cutesy. Another opportunity for Tex to knock your sagging, mushy ass into the dust 😈

    I most certainly do hope you’ll entertain me and stick around this time. You have a habit of leaving for extended periods of time after I’ve ripped you another oozing hole. And I truly do want further opportunity to “debate” with an intellectual giant like you; mainly because it amuses me.


    Leftists are failures, sometimes for the simple reason almost all of you are really bad at simple mathematical skills – say, something like proportionality and why I believe the Left makes up a disproportionate amount of real poverty and dependency indicated by being bought for a bloc vote.

    As wages have fallen across this nation except D.C. best I can tell, it is true that more people have fallen into poverty. And since the South is characterized by lower average family income, it would only follow that more Southerners have fallen into some appointed category of ‘poverty’ by some randomly selected amount of monies determined what represents the poor.

    However, most of the South is also characterized by very affordable housing and lower cost of living. For instance, if I take a place like Long Island, it costs almost double my own wage using your failed government’s numbers just to have a comparably living standard.

    Now, if I live in ‘poverty’ and make $20K a year and live in Galveston, TX, or I make $30K a year and live in Manhattan, which city do you think I can live larger? Think about it for a while.

    So I ask you. If the South has truly suffered more since the recession, why are there still more people immigrating from Blue State to Red State?

    And to answer your question, absolutely. Each day that goes by, I am even more sure of it.

  314. Here Lurker…

    Chew on this for a while and absorb the definition of failure outside the scope of your own abysmal existence…

    WASHINGTON — The federal Health Insurance Marketplace and several state exchanges that permitted consumers to apply for mandatory coverage under Obamacare failed to implement adequate safeguards for determining who was eligible to receive subsidies to help defray the costs of the premiums.

    According to a pair of reports issued this week by Daniel R. Levinson, the inspector general for the Department of Health and Human Services, about 2.9 million “inconsistencies” were uncovered in the applications of those seeking eligibility under the Affordable Care Act during the first three months of this year. To this point, the department has proved unable to clear up 2.6 million of those inconsistencies – 89 percent – because its automated system used to determine eligibility is not yet fully operational.

    Yes We Can!

  315. I think perhaps we’re not connecting here. I assume this is most likely due to perspectives.
    HHS has been tasked with the kids part of illegal immigration since 2003. I’ve said before I hold Obama culpable in the matter of the 100% increase in UAM/URM’s.
    The thing is given the increase,the laws and assorted other realities HHS really has no choice but to do what they are doing and in fact would be equally slated in the court of public opinion if they weren’t.

    Prior to and post 9/11 a House Rep was not going to be allowed to “drop in”and quite honestly I doubt a Senator would get away with it either. In most cases of politicians showing up at DoD properties the only surprise is the spin put on it for media relations.

    Bridenstine is there for red meat bullshit. FT Sill isn’t in his district,he’s 1st its in Coles 4th.
    I think what the discussion needs to be is whether we as a nation accept the determination that under 18 from a shit hole = refugee. I don’t see where that discussion is afoot.

  316. Prior to and post 9/11 a House Rep was not going to be allowed to “drop in”and quite honestly I doubt a Senator would get away with it either. In most cases of politicians showing up at DoD properties the only surprise is the spin put on it for media relations.

    I ain’t buying that…

  317. Prior to and post 9/11 a House Rep was not going to be allowed to “drop in”and quite honestly I doubt a Senator would get away with it either.

    If I understood correctly, Inhofe was already there.

  318. “Bridenstine is there for red meat bullshit”

    Bridenstine is there for red meat.

    Let us make the call if it bull shit.

    That’s how it is supposed to work. The Federal Government makes decisions and we the people bitch about it or back it up. It’s not a submarine base. Its a refugee camp. He’s wants to see how the same Federal Government that let veterans die are treating children put in a horrible spot because of bad policy. And…considering the realities of disease and the prospect of “kids” decked out with Sur 13 tats, he might want to get a quick read on that as well.

    3 weeks my ass.

  319. Yes Tex Inhofe,Cole,and the Governor had a scheduled group visit. All three oppose the place but did the tour and have seen everything there is to see. Its what makes Bridenstines position seem so pathetic and or political.
    Bridenstines visit to Sill was scheduled btw.

  320. A Filipino friend sent us a movie made in the Phillipines . The people were so poor a son had to get home from school early so his older brother could wear his good shirt to work.

    The school had new text books provided by the government, but they used the old books except on days of regular education official visits so they could pass inspections.

    I understand alfie’s point about red meat, but my point is different. We employ those agencies and pay their salaries through Congress. They should be subject to surprise inspections. .My issue is humanitarian. What are the living conditions? We won’t know if the officials have time to prepare for inspections.

  321. Politico Magazine “What Mitt Romney Got Right” by Alex Wong July 2, 2014 tells us why the people who voted for this phony are suckers and fools as unwittingly described in the song I quoted.

    You deserve all the schadenfreude and “I told you so”s we can dish out.

    Wong tells us which issues Romney was right about and why he was proven right.

    You who voted for Barry should read and learn. If voting was driving skill, your licenses would have been revoked.

  322. And Rutherford because you love Sarah Palin so much, she would have been a better president than Obama.

  323. Thanks Rutherford. I don’t feel my link was on a conservative slant. It was an honest portrayal of the way the wind blows, be you conservative or be you liberal. Carter may have been the worst president but he went on to accomplish humanitarian deeds after leaving office. Do you really see Obama in that role? However, even he won’t be able to compete with Hillary’s comments regarding her poverty state 😆

  324. I missed you, Ragi.

    I am having fun with snark this morning because we left Omaha yesterday evening as the other grand parents relieved us. It went poorly. Our grand daughter knew we were leaving and she sobbed as we left through the door. She put out her arms to me, and i had to hold her one last time as we headed toward the car.The other grand parents surely felt a tinge of rejection.

    Something similar happened when our son was two. He wanted to come to the farm with me, as he often did, but I told him he couldn’t go that time. As I drove away, he stood at the door sadly watching me leave.

    You who voted for Obama should read PJ Media’s “Is Obama Giving Up or Going Soviet?” His view is similar to mine. Obama through his lawless disregard for the law and constitution will not be restrained by the last two years of his term as most lame ducks are.

    Icona Pop’s new single is titled “Get Lost.” Sadly our president won’t.

  325. In my opinion Raji, Obama combines the worst traits of Nixon and Carter…dishonest and manipulative; weak and dithering.

    But neither of them were megalomaniacs like this grossly incompetent man, could manipulate a mob like this bastard, and were hiding a bitter anger that resented much of America. I am now sure Obama means to divide and conquer. I think he hates that part of White America that won’t bow down to him. And if Obama were smarter, he may have been able to pull it off. No doubt, Obama is a charismatic figure to terribly weak minds like you find at Fat Grannies and to a lesser degree here.

    That makes Obama not only a synergistic failure. It makes him dangerous – he’s naive, a terrible judge of character surrounded by lackeys with no honesty, and apparently has no principles combined with a glaring need for attention and adoration. I put nothing past Obama and believe the more bitter he grows, the rage will become more apparent and he will try to damage America, perhaps assist in attempting to destroy America.

    Anybody that won’t admit Obama the worst President the last 70 years, is not credible and/or dishonest.

  326. I ave never been a big fan of Georgia politics. I spent the 60’s in Georgia albeit at a very liberal University. Before Carter there was Lester Maddox preceded by Carl Sanders. Do I need to say more :-). Nixon, yes dishonest and manipulative but I don’t relate those adjectives to Carter but do consider him “weak and dithering”

    James, You have to stop making me ROTFLMAO. Palin as President !!!!!. Merkel and Thatcher would have banned her or at least quarantined her before allowing her to visit their countries although I don’t think you can eliminate stupid.

    Children know where their bread is buttered. You must make terrific toast as well as music 🙂

  327. The dishonest and manipulative applied to Nixon; the weak and dithering to Carter…

    Obama is all of the above including thuggish, tool, narcissistic, racist, and useful idiot.

    Yes We Can!

  328. @ James and whoever else wants to chime in and help me out on this…
    What exactly is it about the UAC/UAM dilemma that has you so hot?
    As the story is played out primarily in the anti-O media it appears there is a definite set of issues all of which seem to forget some fundamentals.

  329. Presidential history is one crazy as field. The things said here of Nixon are too true for sure. Over time there was a very real effort to point out some of the good Nixon actually did. Clearly history will always have the title of Watergate for Nixon though.
    I don’t think even Carters death will find much soul searching for his place in history. He seems to be destined for the ether of many of our POTUS where we don’t really care about anything they did* (of course this requires any knowledge of what they did in the first place)
    Given that I don’t see anything but race helping Obama.

  330. No doubt I like Romney and do hold that he has enjoyed a good measure of vindication there is nothing in politics that exists without a counterweight.
    Obama isn’t wrong on Iran he is just doing it wrong.
    Romney is only right on Syria if you believe it was right to unseat Assad in the first place.
    On Russia hands down Romney was right and Obama wrong and thats just the facts.
    Wong is correct when he says the USA is in a competitive world and should pursue a leadership role as opposed to a complacent all things are equal delusion.

  331. Raji, I’m glad I amuse you. Sarah Palin is a wonderful stick for poking liberals and their allies. They hate and fear her beyond rationality. Her shelf life is expiring, so I will have to find another stick soon.

    Thanks for the complement.

    Our grand daughter is a miracle who should not have happened. We should not be here after we were hit by a train.

    At age one, she beats time on a table, and she dances . She claps her hands and sings.When we read to her, she points at the words.

    Last Friday night her parents ate at Texas Road House, and the staff did their line dance near the family’s table. Our grand daughter began shrieking as she clapped her hands and tried to mimic the dancers. Customers on that half of the restaurant watched her, and so did the dancers. A man came across and gave our grand daughter a high five.

    She likes Radioactive by imagine Dragons and covered by Macy Kate. “All systems go. Sign hasn’t died. Deep in my bones. Straight from inside. I’m waking up. I feel it in my bones. Enough to make my systems blow. Welcome to the new age.” Of course, we are biased,
    Poolman has a find grand child too.

  332. Alfie, I don’t believe it was right to unseat Assad or the Libyan and Egyptian governments unless we were willing to occupy them until they were able to create stable governments which we weren’t and they didn’t.

    I’ll write more later. i have to go now.

  333. “They should be subject to surprise inspections.” -James

    Oh big time. Does anyone here think the kids with the gang tattoos wouldn’t be ushered out of site? Or all of sudden the kids are eating better.

  334. Back to a point of where we’re not connecting…
    Is it general knowledge that there are in fact two systems as it were regards illegal alien children.
    Many of the images people have seen of really fucked up accommodation are actually the very temporary (less than 72 hrs) CBP facilities. The imagery is gripping for sure but it has to be stressed that those images don’t carry over to the HHS facilities with detention up to 120 days.


    Say it Rutherford. They played you for fucking fool for the 50th time. So say it. It was one big fat lie.

    Please understand the ramifications. For the purpose of winning an election, President Obama, at least temporarily, aligned himself with Al Queda and provided those sworn enemies of America an alibi.

    And how about Hillary?

    The man was her friend? I forgot, did they stick things in the anus of his blue corpse or was that not true?

    Rutherford, if someone killed my friend you know what I don’t do? I don’t lie about who killed him in order to make my life easier.

    So say it, rube.

    We were right.

    The miserable fuckers decided it would be better to blame a movie and an ad hoc mob instead of the terrorist group we are at war with.

    Even more chilling, the 1st amendment was a casualty. was so famously shrieked….what differences does it make?

    Good question.

    For fan boys like yourself, not much.

    But this blog, which will be here after you are gone, will be a testament to how duped you were. To how far you will go to shield your “Kennedy”.

    Your daughter doesn’t read this blog yet. But she will.

    Say it.

    You recently pretended Rice’s lie on Benghazi was up for debate (while her lie about the traitor serving with distinction straight forward) .

    Not anymore.

    So….for the record….your thoughts on Benghazi.

    I wont come back with anymore counter arguments.

  336. Been digging. Turns out back in April 2012 Lackland AFB was used for UAC overflow just like today. Same corporate entity helped out BCFS Health & Human Services.

  337. Fitting for this demonic man and his equally abhorrent spouse.

    The wife is totally irrelevant and your use of the word demonic puts you clearly in the lunatic fringe. Fortunately I know it’s just rhetorical flourish on your part.

  338. Happy 4th Y’all.

    If you don’t know how blessed we are to be American and recognize the immeasurable. sacrifices that made us great, FUCK YOU.

  339. Fortunately I know it’s just rhetorical flourish on your part.

    😈 You’re such a party pooper.

    Rutherford, that hideous scene in 2008 at the football stadium was beyond matinee idol. It was beyond the Beatles arriving. It was Jim Jones and Purple Punch. It was Heaven’s Gate and Nike shoes. It was the Obamanation of Desolation. It was the ending scene of Apocalypse Now.

    It was awful. It was sick. It was a deluded, helpless, set of a hundred thousand broken tools worshiping a self-deluded, self-appointed false messiah.

    I kid you not when I said that scene sent a shiver up my spine…unnatural and end of days stuff from the Walking Dead.

    Uncanny how a once great nation could be so willingly hoodwinked into a bunch of chanting zombies singing Hope & Change, mmm mmm mmm.

    Michelle Antoinette is part of the grand plan in the name of Booty Ass health to ban cupcakes at school parties. She’s hardly irrelevant.

    Marie Antoinette = “Let Them Eat Cake!”
    Michelle Antoinette = “Not Any of That Cake Either/ Mustard Greens fer yer fat white asses!!!”

    What an overreaching fascist and shrew…that makes Antoinette all too relevant.

  340. My dog is utterly scared damn near to death by Fire Works. A year ago he shredded a set of books we had on the back patio – the paperbacks actually looked like they had gone through the shredder. ROFL.

    So tonight, while my youngest daughter and Mrs. spend the night at my mother’s with my sister’s family having fun on the water and watching the lights, I’m having to walk my dog before dark and watch a movie by myself. 😡 But at least it’s Patton.

    So, I leave you with one of the all-time greatest speeches I dedicate to the Great American Historical Orator, El Tigre, and his time honored memorial “FUCK YOU” if you don’t like this country. 😛

    Couldn’t have said it better myself as testament against the entitled, angry black dictator Michelle Obama, whose never been proud of Her Country. For her, “A Double Dog Dick Fuck You, Horse’s Ass!”

  341. I can’t believe I wasn’t arrested after the shit I let off tonight. Unreal. I’m talking professional grade. Debris was falling down on a two block radius. Next year I fire this shit off at my rural shack.

  342. Alfie, I don’t think most people know that there is a difference between the UAC in Mexico versus Central America and that the HHS has been serving these children on a yearly basis. I think we need to look at why this has become a “hot” item to the news media.

    “The HHS usually serves between 7,000 and 8,000 children a year. The official from HHS said they’d seen a 77 percent increase from the norm since January.  She said the agency didn’t know why there was a huge influx of children. “It’s not our job to know these things,” she said. “Maybe it’s a question for the State Department or the Department of Homeland Security.”

    Alfie @435, I confess I had no knowledge regarding your comment referring to “Wong”. After much googling, I agree with your comment 🙂

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