Congress for Dummies

Nope, it’s not the latest book explaining to us lay folks how Congress works. On the contrary, the dummies work within Congress itself and certain Democrats have decided to dumb things down a bit so their Republican colleagues “get it”.

At the elementary school level, we have Anthony Weiner schooling his GOP counterparts on how a bill becomes a law. This was prompted by Representative Eric Cantor’s introduction of the ridiculous Government Shutdown Prevention Act. Perhaps a good read of the children’s book House Mouse, Senate Mouse would provide the wisdom that the ostentatious reading of the Constitution earlier this year did not.

Then at the high school level, Representative Donna Edwards thought some good rock and roll might help her GOP colleagues better understand the cause and effect relationship of their up to the wire government shutdown pig-headedness. Quoting from The White Stripes song “Effect and Cause”, she said, “If you’re headed to the grave, you don’t blame the hearse.” All I can say is word to yo mama!

These displays of Democratic intellectual superiority are entertaining but also disturbing. With two … wups I mean … three wars waging and an economy still teetering on the brink, can’t we send folks to Congress who can behave like adults and don’t need to be treated like children?

As a bonus to any of my readers who are White Stripes fans, here’s the original “Effect and Cause“.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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462 thoughts on “Congress for Dummies

  1. These displays of Democratic intellectual superiority are entertaining

    If they are so damn smart, why do they keep advocating for things that aren’t in the Constitution?

    Oh, I know. You and they believe in the good and plenty clause, but that doesn’t make you correct.

    Where’s my new Maseratti? Driving is legal…and government should fund it. I expect it in my drvieway tomorrow morning. With a full tank of gas. And a love note from Obama, thanking me for my support.

  2. Would I be considered backward if I said I had never heard that song anymore?

    By the way, on the previous thread I mistakenly left out the Huckster as welcomed guest too. We may butt heads, but he’s a worthy foe who is always a good read…

  3. heard that song anymore?

    I don’t know what the hell that meant.

    We have a new puppy that adopted me 500 miles away. He and I drove home yesterday, and I think this 26lbs chunk of little man has worn me to a frazzle. I’m not even making sense to myself at this moment.

    I’ll have to get refreshed to insult this momentous dung pile with some noteworthy videos of Dimocratic intellect at work.

    How ’bout the little genius from Florida as a good example of Dimocratic prowess…how about a little Tim “TIVO” special congratulating Mr. Tebow on beating my home state in the 2008 national ‘champunshep game’?

  4. Tex, confession time: I’ve heard of the White Stripes but I don’t know any of their songs.

    I hate to sound like a fuddy-duddy but as far as I’m concerned good music stopped being made in 2000. I stopped paying attention at that point. The 90’s weren’t much better but we did have Green Day, Nirvana and R.E.M. still making some good stuff.

  5. We have a new puppy that adopted me 500 miles away.

    If I had to guess what could distract Tex from the RL blog, it wouldn’t be a woman … it would be a dog.

    Congrats on the new member of the family. What’s his name?

  6. I hate to sound like a fuddy-duddy but as far as I’m concerned good music stopped being made in 2000. I stopped paying attention at that point. The 90′s weren’t much better but we did have Green Day, Nirvana and R.E.M. still making some good stuff.

    Maybe it’s an age thing, but I agree – I haven’t heard five good new songs the last five years.

    Too old for carousing anymore. They would have to bird dog me, and that doesn’t seem to happen much anymore. My latest crush is on Shirley Temple. 😈 Man, she was so cute. Believe it or not, I’ve actually gotten to the age where I only thing about sex fifty percent of the time and not the 99% for most of my adult life.

    Mickey…and he’s going to be a big boy before it is over with; cute as a button and dumb as a stump. But then again, Mick is only 12 weeks old. 😎

  7. I guess we see what sort of important things the reading of the constitution was taking time away from….

  8. By the way, this was your Speaker for 4 years and is your House Minority Leader:

    To my Republican friends: take back your party. So that it doesn’t matter so much who wins the election, because we have shared values about the education of our children, the growth of our economy, how we defend our country, our security and civil liberties, how we respect our seniors. Because there are so many things at risk right now — perhaps in another question I’ll go into them, if you want. But the fact is that elections shouldn’t matter as much as they do… But when it comes to a place where there doesn’t seem to be shared values then that can be problematic for the country, as I think you can see right now.

    Intellectual superiority? How about intellectual deceit…

  9. G, thanks for the introduction to Cage the Elephant. I like what you linked to. I’m going to load them into my Pandora rotations at work.

  10. You knew for sure that the GOP had lost it when the wacknuts started getting nominated. Historically it has been ok for GOP candidates to have some crooked deals in thier past, some hanky panky in the closest – but they did have to be nominally qualified. No more.

    Meanwhile as I said a number of days ago the teabuggers got punked and are livid…
    “From Erik Erikson at RedState: “It is becoming more and more clear that Republicans got played in the budget deal.”

    From HotAir: “All of this makes perfect sense from the Democrats’ perspective. It’s win/win….So the specifics make this an obviously good deal for Democrats — but what were Boehner and his deputies thinking in signing off on it?”

    Townhall.com “National Review editor Rich Lowry is beginning to wonder if Republicans got “punked” during last week’s CR negotiations. He says the vaunted 2011 budget deal is looking “worse and worse” by the minute.”

    National Review Online: “Friday’s much-heralded budget deal is a pyrrhic victory for deficit hawks….Obama was able to preserve many, if not most, of his pet projects, like Pell Grants, Planned Parenthood funding, and Americorps. It’s not clear who should be licking their wounds today.”

    Freerepublic.com: “GOP deceived us about $38 billion??? I was just listening to Mark Levin and he was saying the GOP cut only about $10 billion from the budget because most of it had already been cut or wasn’t going to be spent anyhow!”

    Ace of Spades: “Suckers: We Were Fooled; Budget Barely Cuts Anything…This is a “cut”? In what sense? This is absolutely horrible. You know what we’ve got? Another stimulus, but a covert one….My heart is really leaving me on this.”

  11. I think the Yeller Dawg is right…for once. But it is irrelevant as it amounts to fractions of a cent on the dollar.

    Another good reason to begin initiation of the Tex/Ryan plan, immediately targeting those programs that most benefit leftist shills living off the dole like Yeller. Squeeze the chihuahua balls so tight that this abomination of mankind really is drinking stale, bacteria infested water out of the dog dish and eating moist, tasty cat food for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

    That sends a tingle up my leg.

    We can start by penalizing all union benefits including pensions at a 97% tax rate.

    Time for Dawg and hacks like him to share in the pain – the more intense, the better. Nothing will be off limits including taxing the weeds growing in his infested flea ridden lawn.

  12. Yeah. Punk’d. Looks like you got ’em Dr. Yellowdog. Good for you. You win. 😥

    You may proceed with destroying our economy. Keep spending away.

    How old are you?

  13. Meanwhile the whole debt crisis is phoney. The easiest solution may well be the best one: DO NOTHING. If Congress does not act the Bush tax cuts expire – budget problem solved.

    But regressives love “all terror all the time”. It makes the dimwitted do stupid things.

  14. Just remember Blood Meal. The government shuts down, you don’t eat.

    I’m rooting for the extended Boner version… 😈

  15. “Bad news for Congressional Republicans
    PPP’s newest national poll finds that after a little more than 3 months in charge House Republicans have fallen so far out of favor with the American public that it’s entirely possible Democrats could take control of the House back next year.

    43% of voters think that House Republicans are doing a worse job now than the Democrats did, compared to only 36% who think the GOP has brought an improvement. 19% think things are about the same. 62% of voters thinking that the Republicans have either made things worse or brought no improvement to an already unpopular Congress does not bode particularly well for the party.

    46% of voters say that if there was an election for Congress today they would vote Democratic, compared to only 41% who would vote Republican. That five point advantage for Democrats is only a hair below the margin Republicans won by in the national popular vote last year. A victory of that magnitude for the Democrats next year would at the very least result in the party taking back a large number of the seats it lost last year, and it could be enough to take back the outright majority- hard to say at this point without knowing how good a number the GOP can do in redistricting.”

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/04/bad-news-for-congressional-republicans.html

    ..and a shut down? The rethugs get all the credit….just ask Newt.

  16. Do nothing? Hmmmm. The dems are certainly well-qualified to carry out that strategy. After all, that’s why we’ve reached this point.

    But I’m with Tex. Since you can’t pass a budget (or raise debt limits) by “doing nothing,” dust off that condom Dr. Yellowdog. The extended Boner version seems to be the way to go!

  17. Very astute Doctor. The blog’s recitiation of a poll proves we’ll just be handing the congressional keys back over to the dems next year. We might as well quit now. You should be gloating. 🙄

    How old are you?

  18. Dawg found him a poll to support his incompetent philosophy. ** yawn ** Remember Blood Meal – you told me in 2008, Conservatism was dead. Skittle shitting unicorns singing Lennon – or in your case, Lenin.

    So let’s make a bet Dr. bottle filler. I say you’ll get your sorry asses kicked again next year. How much you want to bet today, April 12, 2011, you lose even more Dimocratic Senate seats in the next election, and that the house stays well in control of Republicans?

    You as willing to bet your own money as you are use other people’s money to feed yourself?

  19. A few quick things before I get back to my backed up business in-basket (mostly junk and no prospects).

    1. G, not intentionally ignoring you. Barely keeping up.

    2. FWIW Tigre, as you’ve seen from Huck’s guest posts, I’m not adverse to having conservative guest bloggers. In fact, for a short time I had a permanent co-blogger (The Rigorist) who was my polar opposite but who unfortunately stopped contributing. So, if you ever want to drop the occasional guest post without feeling any pressure for regular contributions, feel free to send me stuff. And just think, then you don’t have to worry about matching the high standards of BiW’s and G’s blogs. 😆

    3. G, you sound like the folks from Green Day’s home town who accused them of selling out. They’ve had what I would call a reverse punk evolution. Other bands like the Sex Pistols and the Clash started out with a political agenda. Green Day started with what I would call nonsense-punk. They sang about drugs, sex and apathy. That all changed with their last two masterpieces that are definitely politically charged. I’ll post some links later of what I consider their better stuff. Honestly, I don’t think you’ve given them enough of a chance.

    4. I LOVE it when Dog quotes from conservative sources! LOL talk about pouring salt in the wound. BRAVO!

  20. I am quickly coming to the conclusion that polls are sh*t. But I wonder if one message coming from the polls is that we have a real fickle electorate less wed to a particular party than demanding meaningful change. They don’t get it, they switch sides, simple as that.

  21. PPP is one of the most accurate pollsters out there,

    Yes indeed – rethug salt yummy.
    The divorce of the teabuggers and the moneybaggers – it was never meant to be. The teabuggers got used – again.

  22. Yet another reason to buy silver over gold: Obamacare.

    Can you believe those cocksuckers slipped in a separate coin tax in the health care bill? Any transaction over 600 bucks. I can’t tell what the tax actually is though.

    Coin legislation in health care. Got to love it. The way I see it, it would be easier to unload silver under the radar.

    The corrupt, bail out bastardized government makes me cheer for tax cheats.

    I root for tax cheats. God speed, W. Snipes.

    Yellowdog for President! His refusal to acknowledge the debt will make me rich.

    I’m going to keep shorting the ponzi-scheme.

    My hope is that the elites at the Fed pause before they start printing. Give me time for a gold and silver dip.

    The entire market riding on the question if the government will artificially manipulate treasury bonds! Free market my ass.

  23. Are you a Democrat, a Republican, or a Southerner? Here is a little test that will help you decide.

    The answer can be found by posing the following question:

    You’re walking down a
    deserted street with your wife
    and two small children.

    Suddenly, a Terrorist with a huge knife
    comes around the corner,
    locks eyes with you,
    screams obscenities,
    raises the knife, and charges at you…

    You are carrying a
    Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP, and you are an expert shot.
    You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
    What do you do?

    THINK CAREFULLY…

    Democrat’s Answer:
    Well, that’s not enough information to answer the question!
    What is a Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP?
    Does the man look poor or oppressed?
    Is he really a terrorist? Am I guilty of profiling?
    Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?
    Could we run away?
    What does my wife think?
    What about the kids?
    Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand?
    What does the law say about this situation?
    Does the pistol have appropriate safety built into it?
    Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?
    Is it possible he’d be happy with just killing me?
    Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?
    If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?
    Should I call 9-1-1?
    Why is this street so deserted?
    We need to raise taxes, have paint & weed day.
    Can we make this a happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior.
    I need to debate this with some friends for a few days and try to come to a consensus.
    This is all so confusing!

    Republican’s Answer:

    BANG!

    Southerner’s Answer:

    BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
    BANG ! BANG! BANG! BANG!
    Click….. (Sounds of reloading)
    BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
    BANG!
    BANG!
    BANG!
    Click

    Daughter: ‘Nice grouping, Daddy!’
    ‘Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?!’

    Son: ‘Can I shoot the next one?!’

    Wife: ‘You are NOT taking that to the Taxidermist!’

  24. Rabbit, shorting and options. Jeesh … with each of your market-based braggadocios I fear you’re playing financial Russian roulette. I hope you know what you’re doing. Many a smart man has been driven to ruin thinking he can out-smart the market.

    It’s a beast dude …. watch your ass.

  25. Gold – yes get it from Beck – he has extra special deals. Gold another “investment” for suckers.

  26. Hey dog… what do you think of your man Obama touting out that effective deficit commission report you are so fond of?

    Wait a minute…. Let me rephrase….

    Hey dog. It’s good to know that you think that deficit commission report that your man Obama is going to tout today is a worthless piece of shit. We know we’d never get you to admit that after today, but we were able to get you to actually state a position on that issue, so that can speak for you from now on.

  27. PS I am honored that I might be considered for POTUS. However looking over the fields – the Dem nomination is taken, the rethug nomination – I’m not nearly loonie enough, independent? – no I can’t match Trump or Paul either in loonieness.

  28. “And just think, then you don’t have to worry about matching the high standards of BiW’s and G’s blogs.”

    Ouch with the lol.

    Well, at least at BiW’s and G’s I meant get some discussion from the blog owners. Here you’ll respond to my post by referring to the interesting points raised by Alfie. 😛

  29. Speaking of polls….

    Remember when these libs including Dr. Filler rejoiced and celebrated another momentous Obama achievement of “health care” reform. How they brought out “poll after poll” of how America loved Obama? Loved his ideas? Loved the liberal ‘messiah’?

    Buwahahahahaha…remember your poll Yeller Dawg. I’m going to continue to bring that one up.

    http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_17831739?source=rss

  30. R,

    The way I see it, I might as well be the one who is reckless with my financial life, because you can be assured someone else is gambling the rabbit’s security away like a drunk. If the ship sinks, it was on my terms. I like that feeling. Plus, I had nothing to lose for a while.

    Yellowdog has no choice but to mock gold. It is, after all, the greatest counter argument to everything he believes in. So, Dog will ignore gold’s performance over the last decade because the truth is too much to bear.

    Gold is the ultimate middle finger to the out of control spending thieves in Congress and their fiat gangsters selling paper indulgences in the Fed.

    I do think there will be a correction this summer.

    All that being said, I’m a total sensico when it comes to the market.
    (All though I am now fascinated by it)

    Except in one realm: Our debt and monetary policy is unsustainable and depraved.

    I intend on going long following this premise.

    My covered calls and puts have been pure luck. I’ve already stopped the insanity. I have decided to jump back in just for fun as soon as I get approved.

    I’m a high plains drifter now. The ultimate scum bag. I know I sound like I’m bragging or pretending to be some kind of economist.

    All I am doing is backing my opinion up with money. The Fed is killing the dollar and screwing the middle class. I believe silver to be the index for this opinion.

    Yellowdog ’12!

  31. “will HF admit after to day that she has been punked agiona…nahhh”

    HE (being me) is a registered Independent. When I get punked, America gets punked. Which you seem to take great pleasure in. It seems that ever since the GOP took the House, you want America to fail. How Limbaghian of you….,

    So, with that said…yes. I have been punked. Punked by the GOP for not cutting enough, and punked by the democrats for their liberal spending.

    So now that I have proven you wrong in your assertion about what I will admit, it’s time for you to man up.

    How about that deficit commission you think sucks and your man thinks is great?

  32. I’d like to point out that yellowdog now finds the following sites to be reputable, and he will accept anything they say without argument:

    Red State
    Town Hall
    Hot Air
    NRO
    Free Republic
    Ace of Spades

  33. p.s. Rutherford my compliments of BiW and G were not intended as a slight. Even though you have your head up your ass (or at least Dr. Dog’s ass which is downright embarrassing), I do enjoy your posts. They’re fun to mock. 😆

    I will say though that I have read some serious well-supported analysis from BiW and G too. BiW’s are close to scholarly at times and appeal to me as a lawyer.

    You? Let me know when you’re ready to actually read the text of a bill, case constitutional provision etc. before you argue they’re meaning. . . zing! 😛

  34. “I am honored that I might be considered for POTUS.”

    Why not? You couldn’t be any worse than the idiot we have now.

    We know you’d keep the country safe and promote American values abroad, since you are now a neocon.

    We know you’d keep the country working, since you are now in favor of the Bush….errr…Obama tax cuts for the rich.

    What’s not to consider?….

  35. Point 1 from Obama’s speech…

    “Nevermind the fact that I redid and defended the Bush Tax Cuts, it’s campaign season so it’s time again to vilify those who manage to be more successful than others. Make the rich pay their “fair share.”

  36. Point 2 from Obama’s speech….

    “Now that I have borrowed us into ruin, it’s time for me to speak out against borrowing money. Just as my detractors have said for years, our unsustainable debt will cost us jobs.”

  37. Point 3 from Obama’s speech….

    “The term ‘I won’ is no longer applicable, and elections no longer have consequences. Now that the power must be shared, it is time to work together to solve the problems that I did not need any help in creating.”

  38. Yeah, its campaign season again. “Tax cuts for the rich won’t go on as long as I am president.”

    And we already know he’s a liar on that. Isn’t he, dog?

  39. And there it is….

    He just recommended we follow the findings of the deficit commission.

    Who’s getting punked today, dog?

  40. I thought he didn’t recognize the deficit commission or that there was a finding made by it. . . according to the resident PhD.

  41. I can’t wait to read what Red State and Town Hall have to think of all this. Of course, dog will be in full agreement.

  42. “I thought he didn’t recognize the deficit commission or that there was a finding made by it. . . according to the resident PhD.”

    That was before last Monday. Everything is different now. President Present has to try and again convince people he can lead.

  43. <insert HF speak here

    HE (being me) is a registered Independent. When I get punked, America gets punked. Which you seem to take great pleasure in. It seems that ever since the GOP took the House, you want America to fail. How Limbaghian of you….,
    So, with that said…yes. I have been punked. Punked by the GOP for not cutting enough, and punked by the democrats for their liberal spending.
    So now that I have proven you wrong in your assertion about what I will admit, it’s time for you to man up.
    How about that deficit commission you think sucks and your man thinks is great?

    *** Babble-Fish Teabugger-Speak Translator ***
    ………….[running]

    I am out there with Attila the Hun and Hitler.
    I hate Dawg because he does not agree with me.
    Obama suggested a Deficit Commission goal might be good and I am now a Obama person. I quit listening after that and didn’t know that in the same breath he totally rejected their methods.

    *** Babble-Fish Teabugger-Speak Translator ***
    ………..[end-of-job]

  44. Bravo, Doctor! Bravo!!!

    How’s that salty taste from licking your wounds . . . er. . . eh. . . I mean is that salty taste different from what you’re used to?

  45. Point 4 from Obama’s speech….

    “Let’s ignore the fact that congressional democrats kicked their budget down the road to incoming republicans. Let’s ignore that my spending has kicked a deficit down the road to our children. Now that it is campaign season, it is time to stop kicking our problems down the road.”

  46. “Obama suggested a Deficit Commission goal might be good and I am now a Obama person.”

    Feel free to show an example of me saying anything positive about the deficit commission. I am not Steny Hoyer (D).

  47. I would love to see how Dr. Dog defended his dissertation.

    “Why are you asking me? All you are doing is trying to bait me. Google it you lazy echo chamber.”

  48. I would like to see Dr. Dog spell “dissertation” without assistance from someone over the age of 4 or spellcheck.

  49. “I quit listening after that and didn’t know that in the same breath he totally rejected their methods.”

    Assuming your “their” is Obama’s deficit commission, and your “he” is Obama, you are an outright liar.

    Here’s the text of the entire speech. I am sure you won’t have any issue with the source.

    “Today, I’m proposing a more balanced approach to achieve $4 trillion in deficit reduction over twelve years. It’s an approach that borrows from the recommendations of the bipartisan Fiscal Commission I appointed last year, and builds on the roughly $1 trillion in deficit reduction I already proposed in my 2012 budget. It’s an approach that puts every kind of spending on the table, but one that protects the middle-class, our promise to seniors, and our investments in the future.”

    “A 70% cut to clean energy. A 25% cut in education. A 30% cut in transportation. Cuts in college Pell Grants that will grow to more than $1,000 per year. That’s what they’re proposing. These aren’t the kind of cuts you make when you’re trying to get rid of some waste or find extra savings in the budget. These aren’t the kind of cuts that Republicans and Democrats on the Fiscal Commission proposed. These are the kind of cuts that tell us we can’t afford the America we believe in. And they paint a vision of our future that’s deeply pessimistic. ”

    Those are the only references he made to the deficit commission in the entire speech. Where is the part where he totally rejected their methods? Since you won’t answer, I will for you…..it isn’t anywhere, because he never said it.

  50. if you don’t think that Obama trashed the Commission report you better go back and read the crap the deficit Commission proposed. Welcome to the Obama fan club – Awesome!

  51. So i guess since Obama now thinks our unsustainable debt is killing jobs and putting our nation at risk, he will adamantly refuse to sign any bills that raise our debt ceiling and make our debt even higher.

    Right?

    Since he never actually mentioned the words “debt ceiling,” like with dog, we are forced to speculate his position based on other things he says.

  52. Dog. If you want to go back and use what Obama said in the past as opposed to what Obama says today, I am more than willing to have that discussion.

    We can start with his lies about the Bush tax cuts. After that, let’s talk about rendition. Then signing statements. Then asking congress for permission before bombing people. And on and on and on.

    You decide and then let me know, mmmkay?

  53. So which Obama are you going to defend, dog?

    President Obama or Candidate Obama. Since they are polar opposites, you can’t have both.

  54. Huck, it’s a wasted effort trying to debate the mouth-breathing Doctor Yellowdog. Despite his academic credentials, he has the intellectual curiosity and wisdom of a gnat.

  55. It entertains me to use his own words to paint him into a corner.

    Kinda like when senate democrats refuse to allow Senator Obama’s own words regarding congress and the use of force to be read in the senate.

  56. BiW’s are close to scholarly at times and appeal to me as a lawyer.

    Tigre, on this I agree with you. The only real diss I would give to BiW’s or G’s blogs are the comments sections. Unless I pop over and visit, there is unlikely to be an opposing opinion (however ill informed 🙂 ) at all. In fact, putting aside my contributions, I think the biggest criticism I’ve ever seen of BiW from his commenters was “that post was too long.” LOL Then again, that may have come from The Hostages when he cross posts over there.

    But this seems typical of libs. They don’t visit conservative blogs too often and seem to be pretty thin skinned for the abuse they’ll get if they comment on one. I confess that The Hostages is too rough for me, even though I can take a fair amount of abuse. BiW’s blog seems to have a better balance of run-of-the-mill snark and real anger. The one dude at BiW’s who’ll kick me as sure as the sun will rise is AgileDog and I’ve gotten used to that. 🙂

  57. Well, a reluctant bravo to Huck for “live-blogging” the Pres address.

    The big headline today would’ve been Obama signing onto Paul Ryan’s “screw seniors” plan. He would have lost his base in a heartbeat.

    I watched the speech and honestly I came away thinking our country is a lost cause financially. Trillions of savings needed over a minimum of 10 years. No quick fixes. I walked away feeling like we’re running out of time.

    This is what happens when you fight two wars off the books. I think we’re simply screwed.

  58. Regressives are incredibly stupid:
    “Though last Friday’s near-government shutdown did not lead to a major defunding of Title X family planning programs, at least one anti-abortion group, Students for Life of America, still sees it as a “partial victory for the pro-life movement,” and is unlikely to give up the fight to defund Planned Parenthood. […]
    In an April 11 email, a group called “Students for Life of America” said the deal was still a boon to the anti-abortion movement. “While, our goal of de-funding of Planned Parenthood was not achieved, we advanced the ball forward, pushing through the misleading rhetoric on Capitol Hill, and obtained the opportunity for an historic vote which will take place in the U.S. Senate this week,” reads the email.

    … even though the vote will fail, and:

    Online gifts to Planned Parenthood have surged by 500 percent since Republicans passed a budget amendment stripping the group of its federal funding.”

    Punked again…

  59. Since Faux cut him off:
    It’s a vision that says America can’t afford to keep the promise we’ve made to care for our seniors. It says that ten years from now, if you’re a 65 year old who’s eligible for Medicare, you should have to pay nearly $6,400 more than you would today. It says instead of guaranteed health care, you will get a voucher. And if that voucher isn’t worth enough to buy insurance, tough luck – you’re on your own. Put simply, it ends Medicare as we know it.
    This is a vision that says up to 50 million Americans have to lose their health insurance in order for us to reduce the deficit. And who are those 50 million Americans? Many are someone’s grandparents who wouldn’t be able afford nursing home care without Medicaid. Many are poor children. Some are middle-class families who have children with autism or Down’s syndrome. Some are kids with disabilities so severe that they require 24-hour care. These are the Americans we’d be telling to fend for themselves.

    Worst of all, this is a vision that says even though America can’t afford to invest in education or clean energy; even though we can’t afford to care for seniors and poor children, we can somehow afford more than $1 trillion in new tax breaks for the wealthy. Think about it. In the last decade, the average income of the bottom 90% of all working Americans actually declined. The top 1% saw their income rise by an average of more than a quarter of a million dollars each. And that’s who needs to pay less taxes? They want to give people like me a two hundred thousand dollar tax cut that’s paid for by asking thirty three seniors to each pay six thousand dollars more in health costs? That’s not right, and it’s not going to happen as long as I’m President.

    The fact is, their vision is less about reducing the deficit than it is about changing the basic social compact in America.

    Update: Now Obama is offering his alternate vision, informed by a different idea of what America is. “The America I know,” he says, “is generous and compassionate; a land of opportunity and optimism. We take responsibility for ourselves and each other; for the country we want and the future we share.” To afford the government we want, Obama argues, a sound fiscal policy is necessary. But it must be one consistent with our nation’s values, and it must be one that allows government to accomplish what we want it to accomplish. For details of his proposal, see the first post in this live blog.

    Update: Another crushing blow delivered to the GOP plan to abolish Medicare (which, by the way, they will vote on tomorrow):

    The difference with the House Republican plan could not be clearer: their plan lowers the government’s health care bills by asking seniors and poor families to pay them instead. Our approach lowers the government’s health care bills by reducing the cost of health care itself. … Let me be absolutely clear: I will preserve these health care programs as a promise we make to each other in this society. I will not allow Medicare to become a voucher program that leaves seniors at the mercy of the insurance industry, with a shrinking benefit to pay for rising costs. I will not tell families with children who have disabilities that they have to fend for themselves. We will reform these programs, but we will not abandon the fundamental commitment this country has kept for generations.
    That includes, by the way, our commitment to Social Security.

    Update: We are now in the final stretch of the speech. We’re getting the obligatory ‘tsk-tsk’ to progressives who supposedly oppose any cuts whatsoever to government. (We don’t, especially not useless defense and security spending, and we’d love to cut the fat out of Medicare by trying a public option.) And we’re getting calls to bipartisan action, and a reminder that ultimately, to get anything done, we’re going to have to find an approach that all the stakeholders can agree to. We have a responsibility to come together and get things done, a responsibility to each other and our nation, Obama says. (Republicans apparently don’t agree, having blasted his speech earlier this morning before he even delivered it.)

    Update: The speech is over. My quick take: it was a terrific speech, and offered a credible approach to long-term fiscal policy. It did an effective job of making the case for not just a progressive revenue stream, but a progressive government, and properly framed the GOP proposal as antithetical to the vision of America shared by most of the people in this country. He framed fiscal policy, properly, as being the way by which we fund government so that it can do what we want it to do, in contrast to the GOP’s vision of fiscal policy, which seems to mean nothing but “cut government.” Obviously, the true test here isn’t just President Obama’s speech today, but also what he manages to accomplish in the coming months and years as this debate unfolds. But at least in my view, today was a great way to start.

    Update: One thing that I hope gets a lot of play, and attention, was Obama’s devastating critique of Ryan’s plan to reduce debt by eliminating Medicare and replacing it with vouchers. It was far tougher than I expected—any Republican who hears it should think twice before voting for it tomorrow.

    Update: Last update—just was talking with someone about how sweet it was to hear Obama reject the notion that Ryan’s plan was somehow courageous. As he said, “There’s nothing courageous about asking for sacrifice from those who can least afford it and don’t have any clout on Capitol Hill.”

  60. Dog. That’s an easy question to answer.

    The Obama I support does not exist. Because the Obama I support is the Obama who does what he says he is going to do and maintains an ideology beyond election day. The Obama that does not send men to war without talking to congress about it. The Obama that doesn’t like domestic spying. The Obama that says we must work together, and not be cocky, controlling assholes. The Obama that says our liberal spending is unsustainable and dangerous to our nation.

    That’s the Obama I support.

    That’s 2 questions I have been man enough to respond to. You’d better catch up before you vagina starts itching.

  61. “Since Faux cut him off….”

    Nothing in there about him rejecting the methods of the commission he now thinks has the plan to save us.

    Can you be specific and point out the exact portion of his speech where he says what you claim he says? Of course you can’t, or you’d have done so.

    And actually, Fox News did not cut him off. They covered the entire speech up until he said “May God bless America.”

    So you are lying again.

    “Online gifts to Planned Parenthood have surged by 500 percent since Republicans passed a budget amendment stripping the group of its federal funding.”

    Proving that they don’t need federal funding. Thank you for that valuable information that crushes your argument.

  62. Online gifts to Planned Parenthood have surged by 500 percent since Republicans passed a budget amendment stripping the group of its federal funding.”

    Punked again…

    Punked? That’s fabulous news. You paying to execute future Dim voters. If infanticide is going to be legal, you pay for it “Dr.” Dimwit.

    Best news I’ve read today in a decade that is obviously on its way to 70s style stagflation thanks to Obama and his hag grandmother Nazi Pelosi.

  63. Doctor Bottle Filler,

    Are you smart enough to even recognize when you’re being schooled? I don’ t think so.

    I’ve read through Huck’s retorts to your typical bullshit and while he eviscerates you and your stupidity, you actually accentuate the evisceration by copying some other dolt’s response, obviously not yours because it’s spelled correctly, and don’t give your fellow transgressive credit for his troubles.

  64. Paul Ryan is currently eviscerating MaObama, campaigner in chief, on par with Huck gutting “Dr.” Bottle Filler.

    This is great stuff! 🙂

  65. “The term ‘I won’ is no longer applicable, and elections no longer have consequences. Now that the power must be shared, it is time to work together to solve the problems that I did not need any help in creating.”

    Yep…coffee hurts when blown from the mouth through the nostrils.

  66. Online gifts to Planned Parenthood have surged by 500 percent since Republicans passed a budget amendment stripping the group of its federal funding.”

    Awesome! Time to cut off all federal funding….let them contribute to the Party of Death’s campaigns with someone else’s money instead of using taxpayer money that they didn’t use on murdering children.

  67. As Dog pointed out, Obama’s speech had some fine moments. The trouble is if he gave into pressure the first time and let the rich maintain their tax break, what has changed that will allow him to never do it again?

  68. I think Rabbit may be on to something. I bought $6,800 dollars worth of silver stock two weeks ago and have made $426.00 in two weeks.

    Just checked. Not bad Rabbit – I might start using you as my broker. 🙂

  69. “Online gifts to Planned Parenthood have surged by 500 percent since Republicans passed a budget amendment stripping the group of its federal funding.”

    Ummm guys. . . not so fast. Since when have libs made a donations or “gifts” of their own money? Dear Lord, if Dr. Dumbass is right, PP tax funding just INCREASED 500%!!!

    (of course it’s equally likely that a 500% “surge” equals $500).

  70. “I bought $6,800 dollars worth of silver stock two weeks ago and have made $426.00 in two weeks.”

    Yeah right, Tex. I gave you $7,226 to buy silver. . .

  71. Tigre, 😆

    Yeah, but I didn’t lose anything! Besides of course, the falling dollar isn’t buying as much, gasoline is higher than any time since 2008 (it’s George Bush’s fault again), and groceries are about 25% more than this time last year. Did I add cotton has increased 135% in the last six months. I actually put $71.00 in a Honda Accord last Monday, and we have some of the cheapest gas in the nation.

    So, if you don’t eat, don’t drive, don’t heat your home, and can walk around naked, everything is looking steady under El Bongo’s steady hand.

    I looked over at these Lexus SUVs beside me and thought, “Damn, what does it cost to fill those big bastards?”

  72. Okay Huck, I read the transcript of Dumbo’s Obama’s speech. You’re much too kind. I now believe I was smart to skip the speech without watching butthead reading the teleprompter. A disgrace…

    Let’s talk about the assumptions Dear Leader makes.

    Obama is going to rescind the Bush tax cuts, raising the approximate tax rate from 18% to 21%, then assume a nominal quarterly growth rate of 5%?

    We can’t get to 3% growth with the “massive” tax decrease of the wonderful and magical Obama’s 2009 Happy Meal Monthly Dinner stimulus, a $862B dollar “investment”, and all the wizards of Haawwvard and their massive Keynesian economic implementation the last two years.

    Obama and his economic advisers are mendacious and immoral. Obama should be thrown out of the White House by the nape of his neck for this POS, and the rest of his cabinet minus Gates hanged on the public square.

  73. The teabuggers just must be luvin Boner:

    “A new budget estimate released Wednesday shows that the spending bill negotiated between President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner would produce less than 1 percent of the $38 billion in claimed savings by the end of this budget year.
    The Congressional Budget Office estimate shows that compared with current spending rates the spending bill due for a House vote Thursday would pare just $352 million from the deficit through Sept. 30. About $8 billion in cuts to domestic programs and foreign aid are offset by nearly equal increases in defense spending.

    When war funding is factored in the legislation would actually increase total federal outlays by $3.3 billion relative to current levels.”

  74. The teabaggees ;like you are too busy choking on my hairy balls to notice Obama’s speech went over like a lead balloon Dr. Douche Bag.

    When you going to help me with my chemistry homework dust mite? Take your stupid bullshit back to Graychin at the Two Useful Idiot’s Blog.

  75. I really do wish HF would drop by PP. He would would not find any abortions in the back – but he probably would find the neighbor kids – or his own. It’s for sure they wont be listening to HIS advice.- or telling HIM what they are up to.

  76. Dawg,

    For crying out loud man, you’re not even lucid and can’t even keep your lies straight. You’re a damn disgrace – mostly to yourself.

    You can’t attract a soul to your shit for brains propaganda blog besides those smarmy 60s burnouts Graychin and Flake, and occasionally Rutherford when he’s bored out of his mind, so you pollute Rutherford and Alfie’s blog with your tired, ignorant cliches. zzzzzzzzz

    Here’s a couple of blogs where you will be appreciated and a better fit:

    http://www.fakename2.wordpress.com

    or

    http://www.margaretandhelen.wordpress.com

    Tell them Tex sent you and they’ll love for it. 😉

  77. ” but he probably would find the neighbor kids – or his own.” -Yellowdog

    Come on man. That’s just fucked. I would love to beat your ass for that comment, you know that? That’s the lowest comment I’ve ever seen here.

    I know this is exactly the reaction you were looking for and I’m the fool.
    But, you crossed a line.

    Do you have kids? Would you like us bringing them into arguments that involve their presumed sexual activity?

    Hey liberal man. Fighter for the common man. Why don’t you bring that kind of talk right here to the epicenter of your beloved proletariat.

  78. Dawg is the ultimate coward and liar Rabbit. This dog turd tries to pass himself off as some educated mover and shaker. Laugh at him.

    A shill living off the generosity of others, and Dawg doesn’t even have the courtesy to give you a reach around for your charity. Dawg wouldn’t have the guts to say shit like that to a child’s face, much less and adult. Dawg is nothing but a loser piece of trailer trash without a friend in the world. I actually admire Huck and Alfie for trying to reason with the hillbilly POS. And you’ll note what they get in return.

    Dawg deserves a first class ass whipping like Graychin always did, but he wouldn’t be worth your trouble. Dawg will meet his fate soon, and quickly be forgotten.

    Fuck him…

  79. Tex has done me two pieces of disservice this evening. First he has planted the image of his hairy balls in my head which I now must desperately try to rid myself of … I may have to spend a good 30 minutes on a porn site just to flush my mind clean.

    Then, he plants a link to that dreaded misandrist web site in my comments section.

    That’s just not right dude.

  80. My buddy Jim Crramer has always said “tips are for waiters”, meaning ignore stock tips when you get them because the person giving them is either full of sh*t or breaking the law with some kind of insider information.

    Moment of irony on:
    Jim Cramer gives stock tips for a living.
    Moment of irony off. 🙂

  81. Lol. Classic.

    The funny thing is Cramer has this weird ability to deactivate whatever minute bit of critical thinking skills I have. I always want to invest in the stuff he tells me to.

  82. Rabbit, I was in the same boat back in my amateur trading days but I found Cramer burnt me at least 50% of the time. That’s a coin flip. 😦 (I called into his show “Mad Money” twice — once by invitation of the show’s producers — and had a great experience the first time. The second time I reacted too slow and pissed Jim off. He also hated my stock at the time (DuPont)).

    Sadly, right when I got laid off I had hit a great streak combining the advice of two different web sites/services. But once I got laid off I just felt any further “gambling” in the market was irresponsible and I stopped actively trading. Then when money was badly needed (before I resorted to touching my 401K) I sold all my long term holdings. My wife probably thought I was nuts but I cried like a baby the day I sold all my stock. It was just such a symbol of financial failure.

  83. It’s all good. It’s just more proof that dog has nothing. I have used his own words to paint him so deep into the corner that his only recourse now is to talk shit about my children. Absolutely pathetic.

    The funny thing is….the dumbass has overlooked the fact that I have stated here MANY times that I am actually pro-choice. I don’t know how many times I need to say this…. I am not a social conservative. So again his baseless assertions about what I believe and what I teach my children are found to be 100% bullshit.

    My wife and I have actually been to PP for reasons that are nobody’s fucking business. I have no problem with the concept of Planned Parenthood. I’m actually all for it.

    What I am against is the government paying for it. Especially since we now know that PP would manage to get plenty of funding without the government. Notice how he didn’t have much to say after that revelation came out and was used against him? That was when he had to bring my kids into it.

    So let Dr. Cameltoe keep talking. Every word he says is just more fodder to ultimately use against him. A chore that is made all the more easy, and pleasurable, by his cowardly refusal to state his actual positions like a man that is proud of his beliefs.

  84. LOS ANGELES (AP) – The NBA fined Kobe Bryant $100,000 on Wednesday for using a derogatory gay term in frustration over a referee’s call.

    NBA Commissioner David Stern issued a swift disciplinary ruling after the Los Angeles Lakers’ five-time NBA champion guard cursed and used the homophobic slur when referee Bennie Adams called a technical foul on him during the third quarter of a victory over the San Antonio Spurs.

    “Kobe Bryant’s comment during last night’s game was offensive and inexcusable,” Stern said. “While I’m fully aware that basketball is an emotional game, such a distasteful term should never be tolerated. … Kobe and everyone associated with the NBA know that insensitive or derogatory comments are not acceptable and have no place in our game or society.”

    Stern’s action drew praise from gay-rights organizations that had demanded a fuller apology from Bryant and condemnation of his words by the Lakers. Bryant, the sixth-leading scorer in NBA history, issued a statement earlier Wednesday saying his words came strictly out of anger and shouldn’t be taken literally.

    OK, here’s my issue with this: not a word said about disrespecting an official in the game. Nothing about the lack of sportsmanship displayed by Bryant in his action, nor a condemnation from the league for the lack of respect to a refferee.

    Nope, it’s all about political correctness, and frankly I think its bullshit.

    I’m getting tired of it. We’re expected to tolerate abnormal behavior and to modify historical institutions so homosexuals don’t feel awkward and excluded. How intolerant…

    This isn’t about intolerance towards gays, rather it’s about their intolerance of the rest of normal society. I frankly don’t care what people do in their bedroom. If you like a Dirty Sanchez, by all means, grin and bear it, but don’t expect me to tolerate, endorse or accept your proclivities. And if said proclivities carry consequences, why should I bear the brunt of their costs, both financially and socially?

    This is one of the arguments about abortion. The left all too often fails to recognize that this is a dividend of leftist societal failures. The Left’s contribution to the black community being one of the largest, and best examples of such.

    I personally don’t care for POLITICAL social conservatism. Let me know where you stand and then move on to what’s important to political leadership, but don’t attempt to legislate social values. Well, this applies to Liberals as well, who all too often attempt to legislate their social values on the rest of us. California’s Proposition 8 is an excellent example of such. Leftists attempted to legislate their social values by attacking a social institution that has been around for centuries. The people said no and passed a Constitutional Amendment saying as much.

    Both NBA Commissioner Stern (who’s a fucking twit anyway) and Kobe Bryant failed as examples of mature leadership. This should have been about poor sportsmanship, not political correctness.

  85. Ryan’s initial response to Obama’s speech yesterday:

    I’m very disappointed in the president. I was excited when we got invited to attend his speech today. I thought the president’s invitation to Mr. Cantor, Mr. Hensarling and myself was an olive branch. Instead, what we got was a speech that was excessively partisan, dramatically inaccurate and hopelessly inadequate to addressing our country’s pressing fiscal challenges. What we heard today was not fiscal leadership from our commander in chief; what we heard today was a political broadside from our campaigner in chief. I guess it’s no coincidence that last week when the president launched his billon dollar re-election campaign was the week we launched our effort to try and get this debt and deficit under control and get our economy growing.
    Last year in the absence of a serious budget, the president created a fiscal commission. Then with his budget he disavowed his fiscal commission. He ignored all of its recommendations. Now, he wants to delegate leadership yet again to a new commission. How are we to expect different results? And the measurements of success of this new commission are lower than the measurements of success of the last commission that ended a few months ago.
    We need leadership. We don’t need a doubling down on the failed politics of the past. This is very sad and very unfortunate. Rather than building bridges he’s poisoning wells. By failing seriously to confront the most predictable economic crisis in our nation’s history, the president’s policies are committing us to a diminished future.
    We are looking for bipartisan solutions not partisan rhetoric. When the president is ready to get serious about it we are going to be here working.
    Exploiting people’s emotions of fear, envy, and anxiety is not hope. It’s not change, it’s partisanship. We don’t need partisanship, we don’t need demagoguery, we need solutions. And we don’t need to keep punting to other people to make tough decisions. If we don’t make tough decisions today, our children are going to have to make much, much tougher decisions tomorrow.
    So I’m sincerely disappointed that the president, at a moment when we are putting ideas on the table, to try and engage in a thoughtful dialogue to fix this country’s economic and fiscal problems, decided to pour on the campaign rhetoric, launches re-election and passed partisan broadsides against us and making it that much harder for the two parties to come together with mutual respect of one another to get things done.

    And a follow on with some additional detail about the President’s proposed plan, if you could call it that.

    Now, if you’ll recall, in comment #16 I linked to the Congressional Progressive Caucus’s plan called the People’s Budget. Read it and tell me that it is not very similar to what Obama said yesterday in his speech. Almost point for point.

    This isn’t a plan to tackle the budget, its class warfare campaigning.

  86. Considering the Bitch’s comment re#18, of which R was so enamored with, I thought I’d share some thoughts from the left at Salon on Obama’s speech…

    Oh, Joan…
    How long would you stay married to a husband who lied to you half as often as Obama has done?
    But for today, you’ll take him at his word.
    Bless you, Joan – your credulousness goes a long way to explaining why our political class is never called to account: our pundit class simply cannot tell the difference between words and deeds.

    Sounds good
    Now let’s see if he has the fortitude to actually fight for those ideals.

    Obama
    Joan, you are so naive. This is just a speech, which I had tried to point out in 2008 unsuccessfully. ACTIONS are what count, not speeches. His actions stink.
    However, Obama supporters will swoon and say this is change. They are as stupid as those on the right who fall for their crap.

    “But for today, I’ll take him at his word.” -Joan Walsh
    This is very surprising coming from Joan “cynical skeptic” Walsh. A lot of good that has done the past two years, huh?
    Did you really needed all those other paragraphs and quotes to say that you’ll take Obama’s word for it? How about telling me something I didn’t already know?

    —Ufansius
    Obama is a narcissist and Walsh is one of his battered wife codependents. Maybe Obama really is a Muslim? He has a whole harem of battered wives like Joan Walsh out there, constantly apologizing for his bad behavior. My friend calls such behavior “Mommy Justified.”
    “You don’t understand. I know my eyes are blackened, I’m missing teeth, and my skin is purple and bruised, but you know don’t the same Barack Obama that I know. You don’t hear the things he says when we’re alone.”
    -Battered Obamacultist

    Talk is cheap, actions count
    Talk is cheap, actions count.
    Obama is in campaign cheap talk mode. To judge how likely it will be that his future actions comport with his ’12 campaign cheap talk, consider how well his actions since being elected have matched his ’08 campaign cheap talk.
    As long as his base allows him to avoid accepting responsibility for the times his actions haven’t matched his words, why would he change (…that we can believe in)?

    You guys are total dupes
    Obama does this again and again. He tells you what you want to hear and then does what the GOP wants.
    And every single time, you guys fall for it. Unreal.

    “Now let’s see if he has the fortitude to actually fight for those ideals.”
    Excellent sentiment. And let’s see if we have the balls to fight for them too.
    As Roosevelt said, “…now make me do it.”

    Speeches are one thing, actions are another.
    What is a speech, even a grandly optimistic speech, except a lot of hot air?
    Progressive actions that help the poor and middle class, help the planet, and beat back fascism are what makes a Democrat. The question is whether Obama will follow up his pretty speech with progressive actions, or whether he will continue to cave in to any Republican that gives him a dirty look.

    hilarious!!!
    how many more times are you going to take him at his word?
    how many more times must we be betrayed?
    why don’t you wait to see what he does before giving him the benefit of the doubt??

    —SteveW
    Obama’s bane:
    “Actions speak loader than words.”
    “I’ll believe it when I see it.”
    But you’re right. Everyone should just “take his word for it”… again… or this time… or whatever, and not look at his behavior over the past two years to predict that, again, Obama will be “all talk” and no action.
    Well, that’s not entirely true, there will be action. Obama will do what Obama wants to do, which is the same thing he’s been doing, and unfortunately none of it will benefit you because you aren’t a billionaire reactionary, a religious nutbag, or a bankster, so that means you have no influence or control over the federal government let alone own it.

  87. Dean Baker is co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. He writes, Paul Ryan in Your Pockets: Government by People Who Hate You:

    When it comes to redistributing money upward, the bar for intellectual coherence is set very low. Pundits from across the political spectrum had a hard time containing their enthusiasm for Ryan’s plan even if few were willing to embrace it in its entirety. And, if there was not enough substance over which to get excited, then there were always the 37 footnotes which Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer trumpeted last week.
    In principle the country’s elite should be laying low right now. After all, their greed and ineptitude has given us the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression. But after getting the Wall Street banks back on their feet with trillions of dollars of government subsidized loans, the elite are once again making a full-frontal assault on the living standards of the middle-class. Last week it was Medicare, but they promise to be back to attack Social Security in the not-too distant future.

    The ostensible rationale for this attack is the country’s huge budget deficit. This is garbage. As all the pundits know, the country has a huge deficit today because the Wall Street boys drove the economy off a cliff. If the government deficit was not propping up the economy we would be looking at 11 or 12 percent unemployment, rather than 8.9 percent. Spending creates jobs and at this point it is not coming from private sector, so the government must fill the hole. …

    And the pundits call Ryan’s plan “serious.” Yes, it is very serious. It is a serious plan for taking tens of trillions of dollars from low-income and middle-income people and giving them away as tax breaks to the rich and to the health care industry. It is about as serious as a robber with a gun pointed at your head.

    One of the moments of high hilarity Wednesday came when GOP Rep. Jeb Hensarling (TX-05) led the Republican rebuttal to President Obama’s debt-reduction speech by calling it “a new standard for class warfare.” That he could say this with a straight face while sharing the microphone with class warrior Paul Ryan is yet another example of the upsidedownism of the right-wing economic message. Ryan’s Roadmap for the Future of the Ruling Class epitomizes what Woody Guthrie was talking about when he wrote the lyrics, “Some will rob you with a six-gun/And some with a fountain pen.”

    With President Obama offering a center to center-left pole in the budget discussions, and the People’s Budget of the Congressional Progressive Caucus offering a more leftward pole, expect the Republicans to be howling even more about class warfare during the next few months. In reality, it’s called self defense. And it’s the basic right of anyone under assault. .

  88. CNN Straw poll:

    Whose deficit reduction plan do you prefer?

    Obama 54% 16921

    Ryan 25% 7769

    Neither 22% 6851

    so Ryan ties with “none of the above” LOL

    Meanwhile the rethugs have lost anyone who is counting on Social Security or Medicare…..now or ever.

  89. ‘Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in TARP money, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes? Yeah, me neither’

  90. Under the Obama tax plan, the Bush rates would be repealed for the top brackets. Yet the “cost” of extending all the Bush rates in 2011 over 10 years was about $3.7 trillion. Some $3 trillion of that was for everything but the top brackets—and Mr. Obama says he wants to extend those rates forever. According to Internal Revenue Service data, the entire taxable income of everyone earning over $100,000 in 2008 was about $1.582 trillion. Even if all these Americans—most of whom are far from wealthy—were taxed at 100%, it wouldn’t cover Mr. Obama’s deficit for this year.

    What more needs to be said about how fiscally, economically and even immorally dishonest the Left wing of the Dimocratic party is? Race warfare, class warfare, doesn’t matter – it’s the only trick in their book; and unfortunately, it works.

    Get this SOBs out of the White House, the Congress, and the country, if possible. I swear, I am ready to go to civil war with these bastards – they are absolutely killing this country.

    And Rutherford, you have no business being party to these wicked liars. I know you’re a liberal – but I generally don’t think of you as dishonest. You can do better than this…and you should for your kid’s sake.

  91. Gorilla,

    That Kobe Bryant thing is such a joke. Now, some wannabee clown on Yahoo is equating the “F” word to the “N” word.

    Sorry, faggot doesn’t carry the same connotation, the same history as the word ‘nigger’ does. I hope these militants queers trying to capitalize on the oppression of slavery is offensive to every black in America. I hope it offends you Rutherford, pisses you off, that these deviant bunch of sissified sickos, who by the way use every pejorative under the sun to insult Christians, consider their current “plight” the same as your ancestors.

    So hearing some ignorant athlete call a referee a ‘faggot’ in the heat of a game is the same as your ancestors being whipped, lynched, chained, and treated like chattel. 😡

    Like Gorilla, I’ve had enough of these fascist speech police types. They want to label me a homophobe? I DON’T GIVE A SHIT. I used to be tolerant. I didn’t use the word faggot or dyke until the homosexual agenda became ‘in your face’, they started trying to redefine marriage, they vandalized churches. Now I never miss the opportunity to insult, as per Butch Madcow.

    Time for “NORMAL” Americans to toughen up and start dealing some shit in return. So line up FAGGOTS for butt kickings!

  92. G, I have only one question regarding Kobe. I’m not familiar with NBA regulations. Would it have been a normal move to fine Bryant 100K for disrespecting a ref? If the answer is yes, then I’m with you that that should have been the crux of the complaint lodged against him, not the actual insult that he uttered.

  93. I find this statement by Ryan confusing:

    What we heard today was not fiscal leadership from our commander in chief

    The commander-in-Chief does not provide fiscal leadership. He provides military leadership. That comment made no sense. He made it just so he could set up his campaigner-in-chief zinger.

    Good job Paul.

  94. R, I don’t get your comment in #126. Isn’t Obama’s so-called fiscal leadership the reason for his speech and “vision?” Ryan nailed him and you know it.

    Tex, after listening to portions of Obama’s speech this morning, I am an irascible SOB this morning too. Just stunning. Why anyone would continue to support the guy or his party’s stance other the Dr. Dumbass is beyond me. Mind numbing — juvenile — worthless.

  95. Gorilla at #115, Imust say, in the words of our frequently-but-not-always misguided blog host Rutherford:

    BRAVO!!

  96. G, the Salon comments are just a long-winded way of saying what I already said at #92

    As Dog pointed out, Obama’s speech had some fine moments. The trouble is if he gave into pressure the first time and let the rich maintain their tax break, what has changed that will allow him to never do it again?

    Anyone who simply takes Obama at his word is a fool at this point. Doesn’t mean I’ve given up on him but clearly the man who governs and the man who gives speeches reside in two different bodies.

  97. R, I don’t get your comment in #126.

    It’s semantics Tigre. The President’s role as Commander-in-chief is a military one, not a fiscal one. So the comment on its face makes no sense. Again, Paul needed to phrase it that way to set up his zinger.

  98. “Anyone who simply takes Obama at his word is a fool at this point. Doesn’t mean I’ve given up on him but clearly the man who governs and the man who gives speeches reside in two different bodies.”

    Well, then, by all means don’t give up on him. That would be the battered delusional liberal also described in the comments.

    R, just give up on him!

  99. don’t expect me to tolerate, endorse or accept your proclivities

    This G, is where I think you go off the rails. You’ve mixed apples and oranges. Tolerance has nothing to do with endorsement or acceptance. In fact, tolerance is the barest, thinnest effort to live with something that pisses you off. Since “the dirty Sanchez” is none of your business, I would expect you to tolerate it. I don’t expect you to “endorse” it or “accept” it.

    Even though I do think language matters, we have gone a bit overboard in our policing of it. The funny part to me is I assume (perhaps wrongly) that the referee was NOT gay. So Kobe calling him a fa*got was about the same as calling him an assh*le. I’ve never met anyone who actually WAS an assh*le. We all have them but we ain’t them. 🙂

    As I said earlier, Kobe should have been fined for improper behavior on the court.

  100. Whose deficit reduction plan do you prefer?

    Obama 54% 16921

    Ryan 25% 7769

    Neither 22% 6851

    so Ryan ties with “none of the above” LOL

    Really? How interesting *yawn*. Did they do a push poll on MSNBS too?

    Meanwhile the rethugs have lost anyone who is counting on Social Security or Medicare…..now or ever.

    Anyone who is “counting” on SS or medicare in the future is a fool.

  101. Bryant’s controversy comes at a time when the NBA is trying to appear more “gay friendly.” The league is producing a public-service announcement with the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) that will be broadcast during the NBA finals. Coincidentally, Grant Hill of the Phoenix Suns taped his portion the same day as Bryant’s outburst.

    I’m guessing not…

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/14/nba-fines-kobe-bryant-100000-over-gay-slur/

  102. “In fact, tolerance is the barest, thinnest effort to live with something that pisses you off.”

    Be sure to remember this definition next time R & Co. return to the name-calling routine in response to criticism of Dear Leader and his henchman.

  103. But this seems typical of libs. They don’t visit conservative blogs too often and seem to be pretty thin skinned for the abuse they’ll get if they comment on one.

    I had about four or five liberals who used to regularly comment on my blog. Before the Obama ascension. Now, no where to be seen. They don’t want to have to answer for what obama’s done.

    fingers in their ears. I few claim that they’re just not as interested in politics anymore.

    It’s … interesting.

  104. Car in, you’re right about the Kobe thing. But G’s getting twisted about the PC culture that leads to this stupidity and is the life blood of the left. And based on Rutherford’s definition of tolerance, one might wonder how all of this came about.

  105. You would’ve loved the attack I received from Rutherford and his buddies for using the term “black community” which they considered disparaging. Rutherford even alluded to it having some southern, racist component to it. The left’s concept of “tolerance” is indeed a powerful weapon.

  106. Boner, the rethugs and the teabuggers were totally cut off at the knees by Obama’s speak. Totally punked. They are waling – just scroll up for examples.
    Meanwhile the CBO says that “deal” is worth $37Million – no Billions there – in cuts. As I say – punked.

  107. Re#143…

    From the Atlantic:

    Obama had a difficult assignment in this speech, partly because of the exaggerated hopes for it (see previous post). Even allowing for that, it was weak both politically and substantively. My instant unguarded reaction, in fact, was to find it not just weak but pitiful. I honestly wondered why he bothered.

  108. “Having lived in a “black community” most of my life, I wish I had been here for that.”

    I curently do also (Atlanta). I was ridiculed even after pointing that out and letting them know I have black family members. Dr. Yellowdog’s boyfriend Graychin mocked the fact that my black relatives had “married in” (rather than born) so he could cling to the name-calling routine because that didn’t count. Of course, the moral authority to make such an observation with impunity resides only with the left .

    Good times. Good times. . .

  109. Tigre

    I still chuckle at that phony scold Graychin giving you the politically correct horseshit preaching about your latent racism toward blacks, when there isn’t one black in Graychin’s entire zip code. Now, you have to admit that kind of unmitigated gall is humorous even for a pretentious blowhard Lib.

    I know where Graychin lives and there’s an unwritten rule to this day that blacks can work in town at menial jobs, but they are to be out of city come sundown. That’s no shit. It is one of the last bastions of white separatism left in this nation.

  110. This afternoon in the House will be awesome. C-SPAN rolling – rethugs will vote to approve Ryan’s plan to gut Medicare. That will be hung around the neck of every single YES – and played over and over and over again…
    And the best part is that is is just grandstanding. DOA.

  111. Tex, you can see it still gets my fur to stand up. It is really galling. And Graychin is typical of the left’s mindset that allows them to unleash their special form of “tolerance.” Argh. 😈

    The only things that pissed me off more was Rutherford’s contributions after Giffords’ shooting. 🙄

  112. As if basket ball players were role models for anyone.

    Or any other athletes for that matter. Still, sports are used to teach kids team work and sportsmanship. That factors into some of this.

  113. fingers in their ears. I few claim that they’re just not as interested in politics anymore.

    Well Car in, the way I met a lot of the folks here was commenting on an old blog by General ChenZhen, a liberal who actively blogged during Obama’s campaign and then pretty much abruptly stopped when the administration got rolling.

    I’ve tried to fight the good fight although I admit it gets harder every day.

  114. You would’ve loved the attack I received from Rutherford and his buddies for using the term “black community” which they considered disparaging.

    I’ve gotta go back and review those threads. The way I remember it, I was actually smacked for not defining exactly what the black community is. I do remember it was a big brouhaha. If I can find the threads, I’ll go refresh my memory. I DO remember your being very pissed off. 🙂

  115. Meanwhile the CBO says that “deal” is worth $37Million – no Billions there – in cuts. As I say – punked.

    Dog, while it’s true that the 38 billion is a joke, don’t you think we ALL got punked?

    We’re going to hell in a handbasket and someone better get serious about fixing things. That goes for Dems and GOPhers.

  116. Well Tigre, as I commented on another lib blog today, isn’t it interesting that in the wake of the Giffords shooting and the emergence of Bachmann and Trump as “serious” candidates, Palin has become irrelevant? I think most folks at this point don’t even think she’ll run. And regardless of what I had to say in the aftermath of the Giffords shooting, Palin did herself no favors in her reaction to the “abuse” she was receiving.

    Rightly or wrongly, the Giffords shooting was a big nail in the Palin coffin. (Uh oh …. I just used death terminology!! 😯 )

  117. (NBC NY) – Former President Bill Clinton fondly remembers a “romantic” time when you could still get a prostitute in Times Square.

    Clinton was at a news conference in Times Square with Mayor Bloomberg on Wednesday when a reporter asked him about the formerly seedy neighborhood.

    Clinton said he first visited Times Square in 1964 when he was a freshman at Georgetown University. He said he saw “a hooker approach a man in a gray flannel suit.” He said it was “pretty heavy stuff for a guy from Arkansas.”

    Clinton said the area is cleaner and safer now — and that’s good.

    But he sounded like he missed the old days.

    “I still have vivid memories of it,” he said. “Romantic. Fascinating. It was dangerous.”

  118. “The way I remember it, I was actually smacked for not defining exactly what the black community is.”

    Not that I remember. But your recollection reminds me of how asinine the discussion was. I have forgotten the details though. Graychin was unquestionably the initial antagonist. I remember you lending credence to his stupidity and lecture about alleged racial insensitivity. The comment about my family through it over the top. However, my outrage was not just visceral.

    I hope I haven’t wrongly implicated you, but I’m sure you were ratifying anything Graychin was spouting off about until he crossed the line. 😆

    There is a bigger point to my re-hashing things though. You can’t blame a frog for being green, but I truly wish you’d take it to heart. I personally believe that the left’s willingness to make reckless (and patently false) accusations of racism, bigotry, misanthropy etc. are intentionally counterproductive, designed to inflame and provoke, and extremely damaging to race and gender relations.

    Let me know when you’re ready to defend all that nonsense about Giffords’ shooting that was beingdriven by MSNBC for its own purposes. . . 🙄

  119. R said, “We’re going to hell in a handbasket and someone better get serious about fixing things. That goes for Dems and GOPhers.”

    Again, it’s comments like this one that do prove you are worth a shit.

  120. “Rightly or wrongly, the Giffords shooting was a big nail in the Palin coffin.”

    And it’s comments like this that call your wortyh back into question. . . 🙄

  121. Rutherford, one thing is sure.

    We will not get serious about fixing things until President Obama and his idiot leadership are removed and the Dimocrats are in the small minority.

    The Republicans misspent 2002-2006. Medicare Part ‘D’ was an abomination. Perhaps the Iraq War was a huge mistake – time will tell. I question much of the Cost of Homeland Defense. All of those are valid arguments which I won’t defend. I’m even for debating the merits of our defense budget. Some of has to go. Fair enough.

    But Obama has accumulate almost as much debt in two years as Bush did in eight. For your Iraq War, I’ll give a an $814B ‘investment’ plus interest plan that was nothing but a boondoggle – at least Saddam is gone in Iraq. Obama has screwed the pooch in Afghanistan, doing just the opposite of what he campaigned on. His Keynesian economic ploy has failed monumentally with real unemployment still near 20% and that has cost almost $2Trillion. There is no debating that now. GM is floundering and that will cost another $50B. I could go on and on…QE2 is going to kill us.

    Whatever valid criticisms you can make of Bush’s spending, I can double them with Obama. And let’s not forget, in six of Bush eight years, we had little unemployment, with 2007 the highest record federal tax ever in 2005 dollars.

    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

    I think it is time for you to either admit that George Bush was not that bad, or Obama has been awful.

    And yesterday’s speech showed that Obama is not serious about solving our monetary woes. It is time for him to go.

  122. And let’s not forget, in six of Bush eight years, we had little unemployment, with 2007 the highest record federal tax REVENUE ever in 2005 dollars.

    ** sigh ** 😐

    WordPress needs an editing feature.

  123. Another Congressional lesson this afternoon: “If teabuggers won’t deliver thier votes after an agreed negotiation why pay them any mind at all? ”
    Remember that next time.

  124. Of course, more democrats voted against the deal their party agreed to than republicans who voted against the deal their party agreed to.

    Just in case you were actually interested in…you know…facts.

  125. Another congressional lesson last year:

    “If democrats won’t deliver on their responsibility to pass a budget, why pay them any money at all?”

    People who don’t do their jobs shouldn’t be paid. Ask Wisconsin dems all about it.

  126. If teabuggers won’t deliver thier votes after an agreed negotiation why pay them any mind at all?

    Dog, this carries the assumption that Boehner thought he had the Tea Party vote in the first place. I’d argue he didn’t.

    In fact, that is Boehner’s big liability right now. He’s the lead negotiator for a split party where he can’t count on the support of the radical freshmen.

  127. OH GOODY! Look, it’s the perfect Fake Flick – I wonder which one of these manly men is Graychin?

    I give you the perfect lib men and Fake’s orgasmic dream men:

  128. In fact, that is Boehner’s big liability right now. He’s the lead negotiator for a split party spineless fuck shitweasel with all the resolve of the French Military who will work like a dog right up until he doesn’t where he can’t count on the support of the radical freshmen. who can be counted on when the chips are down to sell out the principles of those he purportedly represents so he can be sure to feed government’s spending habits.

    Fixed it for you.

  129. Rutherford, I grudgingly admire you. You may be the only lib man I know that hasn’t had his set shrivel with time. 🙂

    This may have been the sorriest of sorry spectacles I’ve seen produced by FAGGOTS from the Left. You don’t think liberalism and Fake’s form of feministic agenda hasn’t worked toward the pussification of men? ** VOMIT **

    Gawd, lib men are creepy. Worse than their ugly, dyke Fat Granny women. Maybe instead of debating with these bastards, we ought to just mow through them like grease through a goose.

    If mankind hadn’t risen above the rest of the animals, these poor, helpless bastards would have been killed at birth by their mother.

  130. If you happen to watch that “thing” I posted in #173 and feel depressed that many men, virtually all lib, feel the need to be emasculated

    or

    If you have been unfortunate enough to have traveled into Fat Granny’s and witnessed the end result of hippie chicks (like Flake)

    and

    You need some hope that mankind, or is it womankind?, hasn’t completely gone to hell-in-a-handbasket, and you need some semblance of nature’s balance to restore order and need a good laugh, read through these comments and the REAL women’s reactions to these men. Some of these are classics:

    I’ll bet it’s because they’re vegans and they’re deeply craving bacon. ~ Jen

  131. “In fact, that is Boehner’s big liability right now. He’s the lead negotiator for a split party where he can’t count on the support of the radical freshmen.”

    Rutherford is such a maverick. When the caucus gives instructions to label the Tea Partiers as “extreme,” Rutherford marches to his own beat, opting for “radical” instead.

  132. Huck,

    I always told Rutherford he’s wasting his time monkeying with technology.

    Rutherford is a maverick. I have never met a Lib yet that is as quick to pick up on damage repair and insufferable excuse making for the lackey’s on the Left. He a BO asset. 😉

    Rutherford should get to work right now. Remember, Obama promised to cut the deficit he inherited by half by 2012. And if I were a Republican candidate next year, I’d run that speech over and over and over again.

    That will tax even Rutherford’s “radical” cheer leading capabilities.

  133. “Dog, this carries the assumption that Boehner thought he had the Tea Party vote in the first place. I’d argue he didn’t.”

    The conclusion is the same either way – ignore loonies. They are short timers anyway.

  134. Tex, thanks for the videos. You have thrown me into a complete depression. These are the people that put this dumb-ass-in-chief in office to fulfill their need to feel relevant. Not a one of them would shed a tear for the little lips, toes and eyelids tossed into a dumpster.

  135. R, I am a little more than ornery tonight. Did you look back at your posts to see what was said?

    Rabbit, I hope your transition goes as smoothly as possible. Let us know when you close. I have a serious cigar in my humidor I’ll figure a way to get to you.

  136. (The Boston Globe) — EVIDENCE IS now in that President Barack Obama grossly exaggerated the humanitarian threat to justify military action in Libya. The president claimed that intervention was necessary to prevent a “bloodbath’’ in Benghazi, Libya’s second-largest city and last rebel stronghold.

    I suppose I could toss in the ‘You Lie!!!‘ quote, but frankly at this point- and after so many lies- what’s the point? This has been the most dishonest Administration in ANY of our lifetimes.

  137. When Paul Ryan says his priority is to make sure, he’s just being America’s accountant … This is the same guy that voted for two wars that were unpaid for, voted for the Bush tax cuts that were unpaid for, voted for the prescription drug bill that cost as much as my health care bill — but wasn’t paid for,” Mr. Obama told his supporters. “So it’s not on the level.”

  138. Oh, I recognize Congresswoman Edwards up there. She’s the one going on a hunger strike. Over Ryan’s proposed cuts- ’cause the women and children are going to starve.

    But no worries – the strike will only last ONE day per week.

    Ba haa haa haaaa …

    Joining Edwards are intellectual heavy-weights – Marcy Kaptur and Barbara Lee among others.

  139. Oh Gorilla, Gorilla, Gorilla, where do we start?

    1. You cited an OP-ED … i.e. someone’s opinion. It’s not news.

    2. The author of the OP-ED: “Alan J. Kuperman, a professor of public affairs at the University of Texas, is author of “The Limits of Humanitarian Intervention’’ and co-editor of “Gambling on Humanitarian Intervention.’’” — Yeah, this guy just from the title of his books is clearly a big fan of humanitarian intervention. G, can you spell “agenda” or “bias”?

    3. First all the GOPhers crawled up Obama’s ass for not acting fast enough. Then they crawled up his ass for letting the French look like leaders on this. Now, you guys wanna crawl up his ass for going to war on false pretense? You’ve gotta be shittin’ me!!!!!

    4. It’s been established that Libya is not in our strategic interest. Their oil primarily goes to Europe. So, other than an impending humanitarian disaster, what’s our rationale for regime change?

    5. Besides the fact that the OP-ED ain’t news …. it ain’t news! We always knew there was no crystal ball concerning an impending mass murder in Benghazi. It was always a matter of “what if” and how we would look if we did nothing and Kadaffi went daffy. So you do a coin flip, add on some pressure from the European allies (and at least temporarily the Arab League) and go to war.

    Finally, I’ve never been gung-ho about this intervention because it is so inconsistent with our ignoring suffering in so many other places. But false pretenses? Give me a break!

    P.S. You may remember that it was on this blog that I criticized the President for overblown language, but it was not regarding the nature of the internal Libyan threat, it was about the potential instability in the region. That seemed like hyperbole to me and reminded me of George Bush and his mushroom cloud coming from Iraq.

  140. Car in … I hope you don’t mind but from now on I’m calling you Car-in. That intervening space is driving my OCD self crazy. I keep thinking I need to type Car in a garage or Car in a tunnel. If the dash doesn’t suit you, let me know what nickname you can live with.

    As for your Donna Edwards comment, from what I can see, beside the fact that it’s over the top, the last person who should be fasting is Ms. Edwards who looks pretty damn thin as it is. 🙂

  141. In their first 100 days, House Republicans have stood up for Big Oil’s taxpayer subsidies, protected tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, repealed health insurance reform for their constituents while keeping it for themselves, passed a budget that would cost 700,000 jobs, and even focused on an extreme right-wing social agenda that nearly shut down government. Republicans have done all that and haven’t done a single thing to focus on the top priority of the American people – creating jobs.

    Today, House Republicans are set to vote on a budget that ends Medicare.

    “From destroying hundreds of thousands of American jobs to protecting tax breaks for Big Oil companies making record profits and even nearly shutting down government to advance an extreme social agenda, the House Republican agenda got worse by the day,” said Jesse Ferguson of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. “The American people can’t afford another 100 days like the Republicans’ first one hundred.”

  142. Why do I get the feeling that Obama actually dislikes Paul Ryan? From Dog’s quote and from the speech on Wednesday, I get the feeling there is more going on here than just partisan politics.

    I wonder if Obama is pissed that the GOP has produced at least one person who at least seems articulate and intelligent.

    Hey Barack, my brother, they can’t ALL be Bachmann’s. 😆

  143. Since Obama’s taken office, my health insurance has gone up by $300 a year, gas has doubled, friends and family members have lost their jobs, food prices have skyrocketed, and we’ve pissed away my children’s future bailing out state budgets, union contracts, and road signs.

    Carrion” might fit better.

    go ahead. Then you won’t mind if I call you yellow piss.

  144. “Explain how you pay for a tax cut.”
    You must be even stupider than I thought.

    Apparently Yellow Piss is perfectly ok with the bastardization of our language by the liberals.

    Investment = spending
    Fairness = the rich support the poor, the poor have no obligation to society or themeselves

  145. C’mon Dog …. no need to throw the first punch at Car-in. (S)he’s new here.

    Fairness = the rich support the poor, the poor have no obligation to society or themeselves

    You’ve conflated two disconnected ideas here. One of the luxuries of being rich is the ability to help those in dire straits without missing a beat. This has nothing to do with whether or not the poor have an obligation for self-betterment. We are all responsible for our futures. But one of the things that makes this country special is our belief that no one should starve; no one should be homeless; no one should die purely because they can’t afford the health care to keep them alive. I don’t know why those aren’t ideals to which you aspire.

  146. Car-in as for #197 are you really suggesting under John McCain none of the problems you cited would have happened? Your health insurance hike is Obama’s fault? Do you really love the health insurance industry so much that you believe Obama is to blame for them raking in the bucks?

    If your complaint is that under Obama things have not improved to your liking, well I can’t argue with that. But why do I suspect you never expected things to get better under Obama in the first place?

  147. “First all the GOPhers crawled up Obama’s ass for not acting fast enough. Then they crawled up his ass for letting the French look like leaders on this. Now, you guys wanna crawl up his ass for going to war on false pretense? You’ve gotta be shittin’ me!!!!!”

    Nope. Not shitting you. He fucked this up royally. Had Obama been decisive and taken control of the situation instead of doing his usual, it wouldn’t the problem it has become (or at least the same problem).

    And you can’t believe he’s getting it from every direction? Five words: “you’ve got to be shittin’ me!

  148. “But one of the things that makes this country special is our belief that no one should starve; no one should be homeless; no one should die purely because they can’t afford the health care to keep them alive. I don’t know why those aren’t ideals to which you aspire.”

    Yeah Rutherford. I think it’d be safe to assume those are ideals tha Car-in doesn’t aspire to. 🙄

    Cut the shit please.

  149. “Since Obama’s taken office” you are getting the benefits of the Bush piss-on plan – takes while to get to we pee-ons.

  150. “Why do I get the feeling that Obama actually dislikes Paul Ryan?”

    Obama doesn’t like any one that doesn’t stroke his gigantic ego.

  151. e of the luxuries of being rich is the ability to help those in dire straits without missing a beat. This has nothing to do with whether or not the poor have an obligation for self-betterment. We are all responsible for our futures. But one of the things that makes this country special is our belief that no one should starve; no one should be homeless; no one should die purely because they can’t afford the health care to keep them alive.

    What I am arguing is that liberals have loaded the term “fairness” and not inquired into what that actually means.

    The entitlement couch has been bending that curve for years. I mean, when obesity is the major health problem among the poor, we really need to wonder.

    Side story – my son informed me that he gets free breakfasts at school. What? Yes, it’s true. He’s encouraged to take a free breakfast because then the school gets more money. That’s how it was explained to him.

    I sure hope all you folks are happy that my son is not going hungry! And the progressive caucus wants more of this.

  152. Car-in as for #197 are you really suggesting under John McCain none of the problems you cited would have happened? Your health insurance hike is Obama’s fault? Do you really love the health insurance industry so much that you believe Obama is to blame for them raking in the bucks?

    Yes. My health insurance hike is Obama’s fault. They are take preemptive actions.

    I hate the health insurance industry. I don’t want it. I want catastrophic coverage and that’s it.

    Apparently the nannies in DC (much smarter than me) have decided that’s a no-no.

  153. “At some point R, I would hope that you would hold Dog to some standards…”
    But you have no similar concerns about the regressive trolls…how typical.

  154. I have only seen one other person who consistently failed to respond to questions posed to them, and that was Elric.

    I have asked you dozens of times legitimate questions based on things you’ve said. Others have asked you repeatedly as well similar question based on what you have said.

    Ask me anything, and I’ll make an effort to answer it. You never do. On top of that, you consistently use some of the most offensive terminology of anyone on this blog, Tex included.

    I’d like to think that R had some backbone and would hold you to the same standard, because if all you are is a fireball thrower, well then, what good are you? Especially since most of your flames sputter out before they leave your hand…

  155. Gorilla, you’re not giving him credit for cutting and pasting whatever he stumbled across in Daily Kos without attribution (regardless of its connection to the discussion). That’s kinda like contributing and answering question (even though they haven’t asked).

  156. “First all the GOPhers crawled up Obama’s ass for not acting fast enough. Then they crawled up his ass for letting the French look like leaders on this. Now, you guys wanna crawl up his ass for going to war on false pretense? You’ve gotta be shittin’ me!!!!!”

    We should have just kept out of it like I have said all along.

    “One of the luxuries of being rich is the ability to help those in dire straits without missing a beat.”

    Since when does ability equate to obligation?

    “But one of the things that makes this country special is our belief that…”

    I have not seen those beliefs specifically mentioned and articulated in any single document. Can you dig that up for us, Rutherford?

    What makes this country special is our belief that everyone has the CHANCE to not suffer those things. That everyone has a CHANCE to carve out a life for themselves and their family. Its the opportunity for a better life that makes this country great. Not its handouts that encourage people to never make theirs better.

    “I wonder if Obama is pissed that the GOP has produced at least one person who at least seems articulate and intelligent.”

    Its because the GOP has produced at least 1 person that Obama can’t just brush off. Obama has to engage him. And in typical fashion, the only way the perpetual campaigner knows how to engage is in conflict.

    “You cited an OP-ED … i.e. someone’s opinion. It’s not news.”

    I am glad to know that we will never ever again have to see another quote or link to Paul Krugman.

    “So it’s not on the level.”

    Ah. So now when people say 1 thing and do another, it is proof that they are not on the level. The WH staff must cover up all of the mirrors. It’s obvious Barry hasn’t looked into any of them, lately.

  157. Car In,

    There’s a few things you should understand about the Yeller Dawg before trying to debate further.

    I came across this borderline moron at the Tulsa World about two years ago – an incredibly liberal site right in the heart of Conservative Oklahoma that is slowly going bankrupt. If it weren’t the only game in town, it would be gone by now.

    Even by Lib standards where the bar is set so incredibly low maggots can’t crawl underneath, Dawg was so stupid, the website had to shit can him early on – probably from gross embarrassment from repeating the same misspelled insults, Yeller’s favorite being “Faux News rots the ‘brian'”. 😆

    The man has an obvious learning disorder and is a chronic liar who claims to have a PHD in Physical Chemistry, but can’t answer basic chemistry questions – like the elements. No, I kid you not.

    But Dawg provides the perfect caricature of the brain dead leech of the Progressive party.

  158. “I have only seen one other person who consistently failed to respond to questions posed to them, and that was Elric.”

    Yeah, and he got banned for it.

    But this guy shares the same ideologies as Rutherford, so its completely different.

  159. “I have asked you dozens of times legitimate questions based on things you’ve said. “>>>>Babble-fish regressobabble translator>>
    I keep on framing and framing and you won’t bite – – I’m gonna tell my mommy on you.”<<<

  160. ” A United Nations court on Friday found a wartime Croatian general, Ante Gotovina, guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity in a campaign he led to regain Croatian land and drive Serbs out of the Krajina region in 1995.
    Mr. Gotovina was sentenced to 24 years in prison for shelling towns and killing and persecuting civilians.
    The court sentenced Mladen Markac, another general involved in the campaign, to 18 years”

    Bush and Cheney next.

  161. So, the word of the week for the bitch has been ‘framing’. Clearly, this is his excuse for never being held accountable for what he says, or even just explaining what the fuck blahblahblah means.

    This demonstrates how intellectually incapable you are. ANYTHING can be framed, but if you understand what you are talking about, you can debate anything. You’re stupid, apparently, therefore you can’t defend your positions and thus hide behind ‘framing’.

  162. Rutherford, when are you going to come to Dr. Yellowdog’s defense? You’re the only that I’ve ever seen that applauds him

  163. Gorilla,

    FRAMING is a word Dawg heard on MSNBC last week. Dawg has no clue what it means or how to use it properly, but let’s give credit where credit is due.

    At least he spelled it right.

  164. “Bush and Cheney next.”

    Yeah because they intentionally shelled and persecuted civilians like Gotovina.

    This is way up there with the comparisons between Cairo, Egypt and Madison, Wisconsin.

    “ANYTHING can be framed, but if you understand what you are talking about, you can debate anything”

    And that is really the bottom line. It doesn’t matter if we are framing something. If you knew your stuff, our frames wouldn’t matter. You’d be able to negotiate around them.

    But that would require something other than “faux stinks,” “Bush is a war criminal,” and the ever-present “regressives…”

    Without those, dog has nothing. And he knows it.

  165. You’ve conflated two disconnected ideas here. One of the luxuries of being rich is the ability to help those in dire straits without missing a beat.

    But compelling me to “help” the person’s whom someone else has determined need my help, and in a way that engenders dependency on those making the determination in the only helps those who are spending the money they compelled me to give to them.

    Again, IT ISN’T THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S JOB TO FEED, CLOTHE, AND HOUSE PEOPLE, OR PROVIDE THEM WITH MEDICAL CARE.

  166. It’s framing to simply ask dog what he thinks about our involvement in Libya.

    As if we really are not involved in Libya, and I am just wording things to make it seem so.

    It’s framing to ask dog what he thinks about Obama’s rendition practices.

    As if Obama does not ship people back to their own countries where they torture people, and I am just wording things to make it seem so.

    It’s framing to ask dog what he thinks about Obama’s signing statements.

    As if Obama does not use signing statements, and I am just wording things to make it seem so.

    It’s framing to ask dog what he thinks about Obama’s domestic spying.

    As if Obama does not engage in domestic spying, and I am just wording things to make it seem so.

    Dog is so damn proud of his progressive president that simply asking his opinion on the guy’s policies and practices is seen as a trap.

  167. So when is Rutherford going to turn his huge house that is more than any 1 family needs into a shelter for the poor? After all, what makes this country so great is that those who have are expected to give their fair share to those who don’t.

    Ideals are really easy to talk about when we are expecting others to actually carry them out.

  168. “It’s been established that Libya is not in our strategic interest. Their oil primarily goes to Europe. So, other than an impending humanitarian disaster, what’s our rationale for regime change?”

    Quit acting dumb.

    Europe is going to get its oil from somewhere. If they don’t get it from places we don’t get it from—like Libya—they will get it from places we do get it from. Which will make less for us.

    Not to mention, the only reason we don’t get oil from Libya is Gadaffi. But if he isn’t around anymore, that reason goes away. And you know as well as I do, the first deal that would be struck between the US and a new Libyan government would have the word “OIL” in it.

    Put that critical thinking cap back on, dude.

  169. And you know as well as I do, the first deal that would be struck between the US and a new Libyan government would have the word “OIL” in it.

    And if Trump were President we’d take over the Libyan oil wells. 🙂

  170. @morningmika How low does The Donald have to go before you cut him off as a friend? “The blacks”? C’mon!

    As low as continually tweeting how Sarah Palin is responsible for Gabby Giffords being shoot and demanding an apology? Or blaming Glenn Beck for a census worker’s suicide?

  171. Hey Dawg Shit,

    Tell your weak, effeminate “decorated war veteran” friend Graychin, who used to be so fond of explaining Obama’s dismal approval rating was paralleling Ronald Reagan’s, that apparently Reagan must have made one huge jump in approval the last twenty months, because Reagan came within 3,000 Minnesota votes of sweeping the states in the 1984 election

    When is Obama going to make his monster push? I think El Bongo is going the wrong way. 😈

    Obama Job Approval at 41%, Tying His Low
    Independents’ approval rating down to 35%

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/147140/Obama-Job-Approval-Tying-Low.aspx

    Buwahahahahaha…take that fact back to the Two Useful Idiot’s Blog and massage it for awhile while you lick your balls.

  172. G, thank you for remembering that I did un-ban Elric and I’d also like to point you to comment 199 where I scolded Dog for hitting below the belt without provocation.

    But just to dismiss the Elric/Dog equivalency, I didn’t ban Elric for ignoring folks on the board. I banned him for ignoring ME in a very calculated way that really pissed me off. I’ve always admitted since, it was more or less a fit of ego that got the best of me. That’s the main reason I re-instated him. The fact that he never returned didn’t bother me one bit.

    As I said only partly in jest to Tex a few threads ago, it would be kinda fun to see Elric come back now and engage in one-liners with Dog.

  173. As low as continually tweeting how Sarah Palin is responsible for Gabby Giffords being shoot and demanding an apology? Or blaming Glenn Beck for a census worker’s suicide?

    Mika already stopped being my friend over that stuff. She and I used to have a regular luncheon date on Wednesday afternoons. 😀

    P.S. Damn it, I love it when folks read my tweets. 😉

  174. Tex, that actually made no sense. Dogs enjoy licking their balls. You WANT YellowDog to have fun?

    On a more serious note … I heard an interesting analysis a few weeks ago on the anniversary of Reagan’s shooting that the assassination attempt basically sealed his 1984 reelection. America basically fell in love with the old codger who could walk away from a serious bullet wound still cracking jokes with his doctors. He became the father figure we all loved. No surprise he whupped Mondale’s ass.

  175. It’s official: House GOP passes plan to end Medicare, cut taxes on millionaires.

    So they’ve done it. In lockstep, House Republicans have walked over the edge of the cliff and put themselves on record supporting the repeal of Medicare while extending trillions of dollars in tax breaks to millionaires.

    By a vote of 235-193, with all but 4 Republicans voting in favor and unified opposition from Democrats, the House approved Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s 2012 budget plan. As you know, the Ryan plan would end Medicare as we know it, replacing it with subsidies for private insurance and it would simultaneously spend trillions of dollars to reduce tax rates on the wealthiest Americans. And now it is the official position of the GOP.

    It’s all on video. This will lose the GOP the House. And it’s DOA in the Senate. The point was? O Yeah . Grandstanding to the teabuggers.

  176. Mr. Rutherford Lawson,

    I have a real question. A real question. 😉

    I still can’t figure out the real value of Twitter, more than just the social value of sharing 140 character posts. Where does it go once the novelty wears off, and what does it get you more than simple texting? How are they making money off this?

  177. “R”,

    Does that mean you’re rooting for BO to be shot? 🙂

    I think you might be on to something. As a bonus, if Bo recovers from a major head wound miraculously, we’ll know his true identity and there won’t be any need to argue about his birth certificate. 😈

    Of course, I always thought the anti-Christ would be a whole lot smarter BO Peep, but then as dumb as most Libs are (you excluded, of course), Anti wouldn’t have to be all that bright.

  178. BIC,

    I guess there is the added value of giving Rabbit, Gorilla, you, and me some more rocks to throw at Rutherford’s head.

    I see your point. :mrgreen:

  179. It’s all on video. This will lose the GOP the House. And it’s DOA in the Senate. The point was? O Yeah . Grandstanding to the teabuggers.

    Ahhh…as I take another dip in Dawg’s gaping mouth. Bugger that.

  180. ” After the Giffords mendacity, I decided that I didn’t need it cluttering up my Twitter stream anymore.”-BiC

    Funny you say that because I deleted Rutherford’s twitter after the Giffords shooting too.

    It still remains to me the most disgusting example of “follow the leader group think” I have ever seen out of Rutherford.

    The MSM as a whole absolutely disgusted me with the synthetic meme they carved out that tragic event.

    It was an eye opener for me.

    All it took was a couple weeks and they just “forgot” all the dots they tried to connect.

    In a mere two months, Leftist politicians were making death threats on TV to other colleagues and it wasn’t even news.

    To think good people like Rutherford could get sucked into such a dangerous and irrational attack on the most natural of our rights is scary.

  181. Hey Dawg Shit,

    I’ve been meaning to remind you of your immense predictive stupidity and keep forgetting to remind you of how your mouth always overloads your brain. Frankly, it’s a wonder your gray matter generates enough neural energy to type.

    Here’s another chicken bone for you to choke on. Next time you go bragging about Walker’s “allies” losing, you might want to wait before the final tally is posted. Even lib cheating couldn’t push this one over.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/04/canvass-shows-wis-incumbent-justice-prosser-has-won-re-election/1

  182. “@morningmika How low does The Donald have to go before you cut him off as a friend? “The blacks”? C’mon!”

    Was he supposed to say “black community?” 😈

  183. I have a real question. A real question. 😉

    Seeing as it’s part of what I do for a living, I should know how Twitter makes money but I don’t. I think they have paid business accounts although I don’t know what that buys you beyond the free service. Looking at Twitter pages, they don’t appear to be advertiser subsidized … so I don’t have an easy answer on how they make money.

    As for why it’s valuable, I think of it as almost interactive Google. You can set up searches for areas of interest and follow “tweets” in that area of interest, many of which will have links to more information. Unlike a simple Google result, you can interact with the person who posted the tweet for more info or dialog.

    As you pointed out, it also serves as a simple texting service although it makes talking with a group of people a lot easier. Admittedly it’s not for everyone. I’ve fallen off in my Twitter usage. I used to be much more active.

  184. Was he supposed to say “black community?” 😈

    LOL well yeah that actually would have gone down a bit better.

    To be clear, I really don’t think Donald is a racist. I think he is rude as hell and interested in Donald first and foremost.

  185. “I don’t necessarily think that just by voting for the budget, you’re signing on” to his proposals, said Missouri Representative Jo Ann Emerson…”

    Congresscritters backing quickly away from the vote they cast…
    Crow with that dear? That video will be played over and over and over of your vote.

  186. “I don’t necessarily think that just by voting for the budget, you’re signing on” to his proposals, said Missouri Representative Jo Ann Emerson…”

    LOL that’s hilarious. GOPhers do seem to live in this parallel universe that defies the laws of physics and logic. She voted for a budget based on proposals she doesn’t believe in. Yeah that makes perfect sense.

    Almost as good as Jon Kyl. Colbert did a classic riff on that dude who made a bogus claim about Planned Parenthood and then backed off it by having his office say that he wasn’t presenting facts at the time. ROTFL. Too funny.

  187. Rutherford, I swear, virtually every line of that video is a crock — beginning with its initial premise.

    So, the deficit was caused by the tax cuts in place before Dear Leader came in and spent a few trillion?

    False and dumb. No wonder it appealed to Dr. Yellowdog.

  188. The GOP and Congress told us that “the deficit was caused by spending too much on luxury items like. . . Sesame street.” Yeah. That’s what the GOP and Congress said. 🙄

  189. Hey “R”, I normally wouldn’t watch some dog shit that Dawg Shit posts because I know it to be false before I even watch it, but I made an exception for you.

    Do you know that “Big Mike” didn’t even get his first statement of “fact” right in his Dimocratic propaganda film? He misstates the amount allocated to Planned Parenthood. It’s actually 400% higher than “Fat Ass” Mike says. 🙂

    So let’s get this straight again, because you’re obviously not reading our posts anymore:

    According to Internal Revenue Service data, the entire taxable income of everyone earning over $100,000 in 2008 was about $1.582 trillion. Even if all these Americans—most of whom are far from wealthy—were taxed at 100%, it wouldn’t cover Mr. Obama’s deficit for this year.

    Did you get that? The bullshit about taxing millionaires and billionaires to straighten this out? – you and I at one time being considered “rich.” If we take every dime, it won’t cover the Obama deficit. Try and set that to memory if you would so we don’t have to continue rehashing trying to separate truth from fiction.

    So I challenge you to rewatch ‘Fat Ass” Mike and tell me what he gets right besides the cost of two wars. That explains approximately 7% of the entire deficit, of which Obama has actually spent even more on Afghanistan. What’s his excuse?

    It would do you some good to get real facts instead of Butch Madcow’s smarmy attitude and lies, and Dawg Shit’s propaganda. You should know better by now. 🙂

  190. Here’s 77Billion nobody is talking about eliminating that would actually improve America by eliminating it. Guaranteed.

    But because it’s a liberal boondoggle that Americans have never questioned until very recently (like this year), and it’s supposedly “fer the children”, the subject is never broached.

    You want to get serious about the deficit? Eliminate this one and make it the very first.

    And make sure you hear about the escalation cost of “higher education.” It’s an eye opener. Wish you would provide a post on this Mr. “R”.

    http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=105&load=5245

  191. “Solve the (phoney) budget crisis? Do Nothing!”

    And that’s exactly what democrats did.

    Since dog is so touchy about lies, I wonder what he thinks of this one….

    Come defend your man, dog. Come tell us why Obama keeps lying. Surely there is a good reason. Come tell us all what it is.

  192. There was a budget crisis because democrats didn’t do their job and pass a budget when they were supposed to. There was no budget.

    If you want to talk about a debt or deficit crisis, those are different discussions.

    ““All Fear All the Time” you know”

    Yes. It was fear of a government shutdown. Your boy Obama seemed pretty scared of it, too.

    And why was there cause for that fear, dog? Who’s actions–or inactions—prompted that fear?

    As long as you keep running your trap about the GOP budget, I am going to keep reminding you that democrats were pussies, and didn’t pass one at all. You can drone on about worthless polls all you want. We both know the truth.

  193. Dr. Yellowdawg @23: “The easiest solution may well be the best one: DO NOTHING. If Congress does not act the Bush tax cuts expire – budget problem solved.”

  194. “Could someone document anything in that video that is false?”

    Let’s see….

    Republicans hate kids?….check.
    Republicans hate moms?….check
    Republicans hate Elmo?….check
    Republicans hate puppies?……………..

    Looks like he missed one.

    Here’s the fact, Rutherford. If any of that stuff was important to democrats, they’d have funded it with a budget. Did they fund any of that stuff with their own budget? Are you going to ignore that question like dog does?

    If the GOP hates all of those things for wanting to reduce the funding they get, what does it say about democrats who refused to fund them at all?

    That’s what is false about the video.

  195. And since democrats keep whining about how the GOP loves war more than babies, let’s not forget this fact….

    “In his first two years in office, President Obama has twice proposed an increased budget on military spending. In his 2010 budget proposal (his first as president), Obama proposed a 4% increase on defense spending of the previous year. The $533.7 billion request topped what had been the highest level of US military spending since WWII. The next year, President Obama followed up that defense budget with an even higher proposal of $708 billion; an increase of 3.4%. Admittedly, the President’s non-Iraq defense budget was a mere $549 billion. However, that is still an increase of more than $11 billion from the previous record-setting year.”

    What about it, dog? What’s Obama doing to cut military spending? You can try and say he is getting rid of crappy programs, but, just like with the GOP cuts that weren’t, his cuts are still finding budgets raised.

    Defend your president. Don’t let me frame all this. Set us all straight.

  196. And yet Dawg, you still haven’t taken my bet on the House. When you going to man up and put your money where your mouth is?

    Gutless….

  197. Bitch, you crack me up. One minute, you are degrading Rasmussen for being biased polling firm not worth anything, and then the next minute, you’re touting their polling. To call you fickle would be an understatement.

    I want you to explain how you fund a tax cut because I don’t think you fundamentally understand government finance or the American system of government.

    You’re a communist. You think that everything belongs to the state and that it is by the will of the state that we get to keep anything at all. To you, it’s not that the government takes away a 1/3 of our income, its that they let us keep 2/3 of our income. That is the fundamental difference between you and your 20% of the nation versus the remaining 80% of the American people.

    Your problem is that you can’t fundamentally defend your own beliefs, thus you can’t handle debates with us because not only do we know what we believe, we know what you believe too.

    Its called knowing your enemy…

  198. Very well put Gorilla….Dawg is a communist. From his hostility toward religion, to his state run welfare stealing from others, to his fascist propaganda he poses as fact, he’s got the pinko bases covered.

    And if the economy tanks because of inflation, and I think it will later this year, that albatross is going to be wrapped around every Dimocrat’s neck – the excuse Obama’s inherited Bush economy has more than run its course.

    Not only do I think the Republicans will keep the house in 2012, I think they will recapture the Senate. And if they can position any candidate worth his salt and not some weak nanny like John McCain, and that is a big if, Dawg and his worthless ilk are going to be hiding in the weeds, because the free ride is over.

  199. ooo and doz evil libruls LOL – did Beck tell you that?</blockquote.

    Get some new material "Rot the Brian." Your routine is more stale than year old bread. Go back to the Two Useful Idiots Blog and beg the "decorated war hero" to help you construct something original.

  200. I guess dog isn’t interested in defending the policies, practices, and outright lies by his president.

    The reason is obvious—-he is unable.

  201. “and he does not even discuss the budget bill for the top 1% they all voted for yesterday.”

    Is there something that a refusal to discuss an issue says to you, dog?

  202. “Right wing hack pollster RAS says GOP may welll lose the house:”

    Why don’t you stop lying and framing, dog?

    For starters, the pollster Rasmussen didn’t say anything. That piece of COMMENTARY was written by Alan I. Abramowitz, not Scott Rasmussen.

    Something else he doesn’t discuss is actual polls.

    And what is his conclusion?…

    “It is far too early to make any specific forecast of the outcome of the 2012 House elections.”

    And why does he say the GOP might lose the House? Because of what they did while they ran it? No. Because of redistricting that will put them into democratic party bastions.

    All of which adds up to you being full of shit, as usual.

  203. Take notice, dog. The above comment is how you deal with someone who is framing information.

    You expose their frames and interject facts.

    You don’t whine like a baby and cover your head with your blankee.

  204. That’s understandable when one has ventured far too far out of his league.

    You’re swimming with the sharks here, pal. Maybe the kiddie pool is more your speed….

  205. Why don’t you refute my #281, dog? Tell us all how wrong I am and defend the piece that you already linked.

    If it was worth you posting it should be worth you defending.

  206. All dog’s crying about military spending and he won’t even comment on Obama raising the military budget every year since taking office.

  207. What’s pathetic is that you can’t even muster defense for your own comments.

    I mean, to hell with defending what your glorious president says and does, you won’t even defend your own bullshit.

    And that is truly pathetic.

  208. Look who else is getting arrested in Egypt, dog….

    “In recent weeks, activists have accused the army of making arbitrary arrests, abusing and torturing prisoners, and subjecting detainees to rapid military justice – all complaints that had fuelled mass anger against Mubarak’s government.”

    I guess Egypt’s “change” was worth about as much as ours, eh? (as in, none at all)

  209. Poor F**kin Huckster – his lame blogging tricks aren’t working and he’s in full foot stomping snit mode. Needs a time out in the naughty corner…

    Speaking of prison I understand that in the UK a good part of Murdoch’s news staff is headed there. Private wiretapping is illegal.

  210. R, just want you tom know that Dog is a representation of you. You’re tied at the hip, like it or not. You may want to manage your bitch…

  211. O dear must be getting to the monkey too…
    Teabuggers are not known for their quick wits nor their strong minds. They get all confusilated when someone contradicts hate radio.

  212. HA!!!

    What a comedian. OK tuff guy, let’s have the battle of the minds, or are you too busy licking your balls?

  213. What kind of bottles did you fill Dawg during that whiz bang career and power PHD? Is that union scale work?

    You must have been a helium filler. Surely, they weren’t giving you something dangerous to work with. Did you put on a big clown nose too with Ronald McDonald hair and size 64 shoes?

    What’s your PHD in again? 🙂

    P.S. – I went to the kiddie pool and noticed you can’t draw flies at the One and Half Useful Idiot’s blog. Now that Gray has left you dry, you might end up having to talk to yourself.

  214. Hey Baggee – yeah, you that is always going off on your bogeyman Big Oil. Read this if you can read, and set it to memory while I shove another fact up your worthless, lazy ass.

    America’s three biggest oil companies, ExxonMobil (NYSE: XOM – News), Chevron (NYSE: CVX – News) and ConocoPhillips (NYSE: COP – News), all endure income tax burdens of more than 40% — higher than the statutory U.S. rate of 35%. Exxon, with a 45% rate, tallied $21.6 billion in worldwide income taxes for 2010. Wal-Mart Stores (NYSE: WMT – News) paid $7.1 billion (at a rate of 32.4%) in income taxes.

    I do think that 45% is a hell of a lot more than you pay Dr. Baggee. In fact, I care to bet you don’t pay a dime in federal taxes as chief bottle filler.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/taxes/article/112560/what-top-companies-pay-taxes-forbes

  215. Last week, Forbes magazine published what the top U.S. corporations paid in taxes last year. “Most egregious,” Forbes notes, is General Electric, which “generated $10.3 billion in pretax income, but ended up owing nothing to Uncle Sam. In fact, it recorded a tax benefit of $1.1 billion.” Big Oil giant Exxon Mobil, which last year reported a record $45.2 billion profit, paid the most taxes of any corporation, but none of it went to the IRS:

    Exxon tries to limit the tax pain with the help of 20 wholly owned subsidiaries domiciled in the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands that (legally) shelter the cash flow from operations in the likes of Angola, Azerbaijan and Abu Dhabi. No wonder that of $15 billion in income taxes last year, Exxon paid none of it to Uncle Sam, and has tens of billions in earnings permanently reinvested overseas.

    Mother Jones’ Adam Weinstein notes that, despite benefiting from corporate welfare in the U.S., Exxon complains about paying high taxes, claiming that it threatens energy innovation research. Pat Garofalo at the Wonk Room notes that big corporations’ tax shelter practices similar to Exxon’s shift a $100 billion annual tax burden onto U.S. taxpayers. In fact, in 2008, the Government Accountability Office found that “two out of every three United States corporations paid no federal income taxes from 1998 through 2005.”

    Update Forbes has updated its article to include a statement from Exxon: “Though Exxon’s financial statement’s don’t show any net income tax liability owed to Uncle Sam, a company spokesman insists that once its final tax bill is figured, Exxon will owe a ‘substantial 2009 tax liability.’ How substantial? ‘That’s not something we’re required to disclose, nor do we.'”

  216. Dawg Shit is once again spewing Mother Jones and Think Progress propaganda. More baloney from the bottler filler.

    Here’s another bet Dr. Baggee, since you didn’t take me up on my first one. I say the SEC says Exxon Mobil pays well over a $30Billion in taxes a year, and has for four of the last five years. Should we place a bet maggot, or are you going to go seeking a George Soros link?

    In fact, according to the SEC, let’s take 2006 (the last year the Republicans were a majority in Congress and the supposed toadies of Big Oil) – this is the SEC, not Mother Jones, your regulatory agency Baggee.

    In the 2006 10-K for Exxon, you Dawg will see income taxes of $28 billion. In 2006, Exxon also collected and paid sales-based taxes of $30.3 billion and $39.2 billion in other taxes and duties. $98 billion total in taxes and duties.

    I’ll save you the trouble by giving you the summary so you don’t have to peruse the SEC balance sheets.

    http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1321.html

    Now that is the official filing – not some Media Matters site you use to Baggee. But I am sure that Exxon Mobil can’t grant moving their monies overseas if that is your wish. Then what are you going to be left with Baggee?

    ————

    Why don’t you find out how much George Soros paid in taxes last year Baggee and get back with me. 😉

  217. Dr. Dog’s your boy Rutherford. Anything you can do to move things along would be appreciated. I’ve got a little kids with greater maturity and intellects than Dr. Shit-for-Brains. We get it. He reads Daily Kos and learned the cut and paste function. Yaaaawn. . .

  218. Gorilla, 😆

    There was a day Dr. Baggee’s sons in that video would have made me furious, but now I can’t help but laugh and point fingers at them.

    How quickly do you think we could mow those mofos down if we had to? I’d take two of them at the same time plus that apple faced girl. 🙂

    I dare the only Lib worth knowing on this board (our beloved blog owner) to find one gathering from the right that comes remotely close to the vileness of that crowd.

  219. From Frum:
    “And so Republicans have united around Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) proposal that for the first time in modern conservative history explicitly joins a big tax cut for the rich to big cuts in health care spending for virtually everybody else. If this were a tennis game, the Republicans would be placing the ball in exactly the spot on the court where it must never, ever go.”

    Match, Set.

  220. Have fun in NYC Huck; I’ll assume that is where you’re traveling.

    I’ll expect a reformed U.N. fan when you get back. 😉

  221. David Frum also said Republicans and the Tea Party were making a huge mistake in 2010, which Rutherford made issue with here on this very blog – that is before the rout in November which your pathetic party got booted to the curb.

    Washington insiders seeking invites to political dinners and invitations to MSNBC to stoke much fear Dr. Baggee.

    You’re going to have to do better than David Frum, who I use as a gauge like Rutherford. Frum to determine what not to do; Rutherford when Liberals are spooked.

    I also use you as a gauge Dawg – what exactly represents the bottom of the intellectual rung. Ace…

  222. 1. The U.S. is a low tax country, with government receipts coming in under the OECD average.

    2. Federal income taxes on the typical family are historically low, having fallen by more than half since the 1980s.

    3. Corporate income taxes are also at their 60 year low, having fallen 80 percent of their GDP share since the 1950s.

    4. Effective tax rates on the wealthiest have declined steadily for the last 20 years.

    5. The Bush tax cuts increased after-tax income by about $900 for the typical earner and $130,000 for the typical millionaire.

    6. Letting the Bush tax cuts expire would reduce our debt to GDP ratio by more than a tenth of our economy.

    7. Tax expenditures — spending through the tax code, like the mortgage interest deduction — amounts to more than $1 trillion, more than Medicare/Medicaid or Social Security.

    8. Percentage income gains at the top percentile between 1979 and 2007 outpaced the middle quintile by a factor of 10.

    9. The top 1 percent’s share of total after-tax income has doubled in the last 30 years.

    10. Most of the budget goes to health care, retirement security, and defense.

    http://www.cbpp.org/

    Facts, bloody facts.

  223. #1 – Baloney; leftist spin; however half the country pays no income taxes. The rest of us more than make up for in property, state, city, county, gas, ad infinitum,…More so, the highest taxed countries are in financial ruin – mostly Europe.
    #2 – And we had 26 years of sustained growth before the 2008 meltdown. The longest span in America history. But with the advent of Obama, we are well on our way to Jimmah Carter.
    #3 – Then why are they moving overseas as you say? More baloney. We now have the highest industrialized corporate tax rates in the world. Close the loop holes and you can start with GE.
    #4 – Good. They’re the ones that employ us.
    #5 – The typical earner pays little in federal taxes, with almost half paying no federal tax. A statistical bunch of hooey.
    #6 – Sure – assuming the economy would remain stagnant. We all know it wouldn’t, leading to further erosion of real wealth, loss of jobs, and stagflation (GDP a misleading statistic as I’ve documented here before).
    #7 – Then I suggest you phase it out, or better yet have Obama cancel mortgage interest all together immediately. 😉 See you at the polls.
    #8 – Class envy. You don’t raise the little man up by tearing the richer man down Dawg Marx.
    #9 – But that’s over a $400,000 a year. Rescind the Bush tax cuts and the current six rate brackets of 10%, 15%, 25%, 28%, 33% and 35% will be replaced by five new brackets with the higher rates of 15%, 28%, 31%, 36% and 39.6%. It is your party that apparently wants to further penalize the “middle class.”
    #10 – Where do you propose it go to dummy?

  224. More stunning Lib hypocrisy in action. When the IRS knocks on your door, using the Eric Holder excuse and see how far it gets you. 😉

    US Attorney General Eric Holder and his brother failed to pay the property taxes on their childhood home in Queens, which they inherited last August after their mother died, The Post has learned.

    And because their ailing mom, Miriam, was already behind on two quarterly tax bills when she succumbed to illness on Aug. 13, the charges went unpaid for more than a year — growing to $4,146.

    It wasn’t until The Post confronted Holder last week about the delinquency that he and younger brother William Holder finally paid up Friday, including $73.14 in interest.

    The siblings “weren’t aware of the initial missed payments, which happened in the last months of their mother’s life when she was battling illness,” said a Holder spokesman.

    The subsequent unpaid bills “occurred during a time period in which the disposition of the estate is still being resolved,” said Department of Justice spokesman Matthew Miller.

    Ignorance of the law is no excuse. But when you’re Eric Holder, you’re clearly above the law. I wonder how long he would have avoided paying taxes if the Post hadn’t pointed it out to him?

    Speaking of tax deadbeat pals of Obama’s, his good buddy Al Sharpton still owes millions, with no sign he’s ever going to pay up.

    The Rev. Al Sharpton’s nonprofit has vowed to clean up its tax debt, but it’s unclear whether the charity’s funds will be used to pay the activist’s private liabilities.

    The National Action Network’s board of directors recently voted to approve funds “to resolve tax liens and outstanding tax issues,” according to a NAN statement.

    The organization had owed more than $1.1 million in payroll taxes at the end of 2009, according to the group’s audited financial statements. But it’s not clear how much of that debt has been paid.

    Sharpton, NAN’s president, owes $2.6 million in federal liens and $1.3 million in state personal and corporate liens for Rev Al Communications.

  225. There are so many breaks that 45 percent of U.S. households will pay no federal income tax for 2010, according to estimates by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington think tank.

    Dawg was amongst them, I’m sure.

  226. I’m pleased to see regressives study my writings – perhaps they will learn something .

    Yes, I do. It gives me a chuckle and adds to my burgeoning statistical analysis that indicates you have approximately a room temperature IQ bottle filler. 😉

  227. “Your writings.” Good one.

    86% of all Federal income tax is paid by the top 25% of income earners. The top 50% pay 97% of all Federal income taxes. The top 1% pay 39% of all Federal income taxes.

    And class warfare is the solution? Duh. . .

  228. My buddy had 19 grand in one of those poker sites shut down by the fbi. Ouch.

    He made is living monotonously playing poker 10 hours a day.

  229. My buddy had 19 grand in one of those poker sites shut down by the fbi. Ouch.

    He made is living monotonously playing poker 10 hours a day.

    LOL. Sorry Rabbit. I know that wasn’t meant to be funny, but it made me giggle anyway. I feel sorry for your buddy, but I think part of the problem is they found those online games were rigged, and some of the “moderators” were swindling big time off the top by posing as some of the players.

    I saw it on 60 Minutes or something like that just recently.

  230. R, just want you tom know that Dog is a representation of you. You’re tied at the hip, like it or not. You may want to manage your bitch…

    No one represents me but me. As was stated by Patrick McGoohan in “The Prisoner” I am a free man. 🙂

  231. Ouch indeed Rabbit. When I heard about the sites being shut down I only thought about the dudes running the sites … I never thought about the actual gamblers with accounts on them.

    Talk about drawing a lousy hand:

    A♥-2♦-3♣-6♠-K♣

  232. An I told you so would probably be appropriate right about now…

    (Telegraph) — The rapid spread of Muslim political parties ahead of September’s parliamentary elections has strengthened fears that Egyptian democracy will be dominated by radical Islamic movements.

    The Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s largest Islamic movement and the founder of Hamas, has set up a network of political parties around the country that eclipse the following of the middle class activists that overthrew the regime. On the extreme fringe of the Brotherhood, Islamic groups linked to al-Qeada are organising from the mosques to fill the vacuum left by the collapse of the dictatorship.

    The military-led government already faces accusations that it is bowing to the surge in support for the Muslim movements, something that David Cameron warned of in February when he said Egyptian democracy would be strongly Islamic.

    Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, warned on Sunday that the direction of Egyptian politics was anti-Israeli. He told diplomats last week that Egyptian officials – including Nabil al-Arabi, the foreign minister – were pandering to political militants by branding Israel as the “enemy”.

    “I am very concerned over some of the voices we’ve been hearing from Egypt recently,” Mr Netanyahu said. “I’m especially concerned over the current Egyptian foreign minster’s statements.”

    Fundamentalist factions have also emerged as parties. Gamaa al-Islamiya, an al-Qaeda linked group that promotes Salafist traditions has used its mosques as a political base for the first time since the 1970s.

    A scare campaign that a No vote in last months referendum would eliminate Islamic law from the Egyptian constitution ensured a 77 per cent Yes result.

    But the April 6th movement that spearheaded protests has no clear plan for party politics. Diplomats have warned the demonstrators are not well prepared for elections.

    “The leadership of the protests was so focused on the street-by-street detail of the revolution, they have no clue what to do in a national election,” said a US official involved in the demonstrations. “Now at dinner the protesters can tell me every Cairo street that was important in the revolution but not how they will take power in Egypt.”

  233. Rather than continuing to rehash Dawg’s propaganda and lies for the zillionth time with facts which Americans judged in 1984 in historic proportions, I think what I will do will be to reevaluate Dawg’s “experts.” These subject matter economists that Dawg and Al-Poolman continue to drag out as fact.

    I this case, in Dummy’s latest link, I checked to see what the author’s credentials were. Is he an economist? No. Is he a financier? No. And it’s fascinating what passes for ‘expertise’ in the liberal community these days with respect to the macro economy.

    I believe this exposes more about progressives and leeches like Dawg than any practical study.

    Here’s the Dawg’s author credentials (read closely):

    Dave has more than 20 years of technology industry experience including positions as CEO and VP of marketing.

    What’s the name of company? Surely somebody this qualified would list the name of the company, wouldn’t he?

    His earlier career included technical positions, including video game design at Atari and Imagic.

    Game design?

    And he was a pioneer in design and development of productivity and educational applications of personal computers.

    Really? Which ones?

    More recently he helped co-found a company developing desktop systems to validate carbon trading in the US.

    Carbon trading? Ah. The story becomes a little more clear.

  234. Don’t Mess With Medicare

    Ryan’s budget proposes to completely restructure Medicare, replacing the current single-payer system administered by the government with an insurance premium subsidy system for seniors to buy private health insurance. Americans’ general reaction to changing Medicare — even when described as a way to control program costs — is not positive. Thirty-one percent would like to see either a complete overhaul of Medicare or major changes made to the program, while a combined 61% say the government should make only minor changes or not try to control Medicare costs.

    Support for revamping Medicare is essentially no higher among Republicans than among Democrats, 34% vs. 30%, and Republicans are actually the more likely of the two groups to favor not controlling Medicare costs (33% vs. 21%).

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/147080/Americans-Back-Budget-Deal-Declare-No-Winner.aspx?utm_source=tagrss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines

    Ryan is toasted – even GOPers don’t like him.

  235. Yeah. That Ryan is an evil man with evil motives. It’s time for demagoguing from members of the liberal brain trust, like our very own, very credentialed Dr. Yellowdog. Is it time to start talking about Palin yet?

  236. Well let me go on the record to say I don’t think Paul Ryan has evil motives. In fact I have a grudging admiration for the man as I can watch him and listen to him and not immediately think “dumb, ignorant f*ck” which is what so many GOPhers make me say to myself.

    I think in his head, destroying Medicare is simply “something we have to do to save ourselves”. One interesting point (that I haven’t fully verified) that came from my “radio” co-host last night was that Ryan’s plan for the elderly is basically Obama-care. If she’s right, then look how messed up this is:

    “Obamacare” which should have put everyone on Medicare, instead left the elderly on Medicare and put everyone else on some complicated clusterf*ck. After demagoging HCR, Ryan’s plan now puts the elderly on the clusterf*ck called Obamacare.

    Things couldn’t be more ass-backward.

  237. Al Sharpton talking about double standards? Parody by another name. There’s a special level of hell for people like Sharpton.

    Can you imagine how long our country would last with these racist fools in charge? These fools can’t even take care of themselves, much less manage anything short of race hustling. They can’t build anything but racial strife, can’t manage anything but shakedown, can’t live anyplace but the past. America passed them by 40 years ago, and the only danger they provide is to their own. Everyone will be better off when their dead and gone.

    Those fools are no different in spirit than the Aryan Brothers, skin heads, and the Klan. And like the Muslim community’s loud silence of radical jihad, the black community sits on its collective hands and lets these fools act as spokesperson.

  238. Mr. Rutherford, are you ready to agree that Obama has been a failure as a fiscal president?

    Our debt outlook? Stable to negative with our White House criticizing the decision as political? The GAO said last $125 billion was misspent last year.

    How long are you going to keep indirectly defending these imbeciles like Dawg and Flake? Surely you have figured out these people are stupid.

  239. “Mr. Rutherford, are you ready to agree that Obama has been a failure as a fiscal president?”

    No. He’s a liberal. It’s always more important to find validation through condescension and demagoguery — like this post.

    Republicans lack compassion, are stupid, and racist. Obviously there’s no choice but to keep spending to keep them from winning. 🙄

  240. Well Tigre, noticing today that approximately 45% of the U.S. taxpayers pay no federal taxes and many of them vote straight “D”, what’s the harm in wasting another trillion in “investment?” That might get a few more of them to the polls.

    I’m coming to the conclusion that this monetary issue is going to end very ugly – in more ways than just monetary. 😡

    Somehow, we’ve got relieve ourselves of the dead wood like Dawg. How do we divorce ourselves from he and his ilk? Because I’d sure like to shuck him, if possible.

  241. I can’t wait to buy the new Ann Coulter book. I’d buy it for the title alone.

    DEMONIC 😆 😆 😆
    How the Liberal Mob is Endangering America

  242. Oh Rutherford, one other thing. Your co-host, AS USUAL, is completely wrong concerning this:

    One interesting point (that I haven’t fully verified) that came from my “radio” co-host last night was that Ryan’s plan for the elderly is basically Obama-care. If she’s right, then look how messed up this is:

    In fact, it’s the antithesis of Obamacare…

  243. “How do we divorce ourselves from he and his ilk?”

    Good question.

    Rutherford, I don’t get the Eldercare/Obamacare point either. Please explain.

  244. “BO is a classless asshole.”

    You forgot thin-skinned, arrogant, narcissistic, and deluded. How dare Texas not drink his bath water?

    I guess that it’s all the self-described “hopers and dreamers” that comprise the democratic party (at least according to Rutherford and G-chin).

    Gawd, make this presidency end, and quickly.

  245. Symptoms of Barack Obama’s Illness
    (according to VDH)

    1) Obama just introduced a $3.5 trillion dollar budget with a $1.6 annual deficit — both record numbers. (If worried about debt, why then run up more record debt, if not by design to ensure higher taxes and larger deficit-run government?)

    2) Obama ignored so far all the recommendations of his own blue-chip debt committee. (Why appoint an honorific committee that is to be humiliated?)

    3) Obama demonized his opponents in precisely the manner that he had earlier warned against, both in his calls for a new civility following the Giffords shooting, and in promising not to demagogue cuts to entitlements in cheap partisan fashion. (Does his entire audience suffer from amnesia?)

    4) Obama wants now to raise taxes on the “rich,” though right after the elections he had agreed that these hikes were a bad idea in such uncertain times. (An unwise idea in December is a needed one in April?)

    5) Obama warns against shutting down the government in protest of unsustainable debt, though that is precisely what he voted for as a senator in 2006, when the deficit was about 1/5 of what it is now. (A Senator Obama would have been a President Obama’s worst nightmare?)

    6) Obama said that neither he nor Warren Buffett needed another tax cut, although Buffett is the second richest man in America, who pays less a percentage of his income than most of those who make above the dreaded $250,000 — and Barack Obama is the country’s most privileged American who pays for virtually none of his own expenses. (The average optometrist really earns like Buffett and has no expenses like Obama?)

    7) Obama still talks about ObamaCare, but has given 1,000 exemptions from it, often to those interests who were most for it. (If he exempted the entire state of Maine, could he just do the same for the other 49 and call it a victory?)

  246. You’re right about Obama’s poll numbers Gorilla, but there is one huge difference between now in 1980. VDH answers the differences better than I could, so I’ll let Victor explain:

    The electorate is not as it was when it finally sickened of Jimmy Carter in August 1980. Far more are on public assistance, unemployment, Social Security, food stamps, etc., or work for thousands of new state and federal bureaus. There are millions more illegal aliens that have become citizens since the late 1970s. And the voting rolls have expanded exponentially among “nontraditional” voters. Thus, the political calculus about which pundits and talking-heads debate is not always what half the electorate worries about. The national debt, the annual deficit, the problems with ObamaCare, the tax code — all that matters very little. The key question for millions of voters in 2012 will be simply who ensures that my check arrives unchanged or augmented, and who either stops or reduces it.

    And that is the problem and the way Dimocrats win. Progressive politicians have pandered for 30 years to buy votes through both legal and illegal means. When we have 45% of the nation living off the dole like we do now, elections probably will not be the answer.

    We have to divest ourselves of these people – I mean remove them from any semblance of control of our lives. It’s that’s incredibly difficult when our country is so blended. I live in perhaps the most Conservative, God fearing, military loving, Liberal loathing state in the nation, and we still have about 25% dead wood like Dawg that would require considerable effort to ditch.

    I don’t want to have to physically fight these people, though I will if comes to that. I simply want to rid them of having anything to do with me, my wife, my extended family, and friends lives.

    How to do it legally and peacefully is damn difficult.

  247. I wonder if the one Liberal person on this board with an occasional moment of lucidity and critical thought really wants the America that Obama and Soros, Pelosi and Reid are setting up? Rutherford, are you reading this?

    Surely you realize the magic pot has to quit refilling? Do you understand that a govt cannot and does not produce; it only consumes?

    Have you lost all touch with reality? I don’t think you have, but I don’t really know anymore because you seem so invested in a failed philosophy.

    Look Rutherford, I’m not going to try and convert you to my faith. That is futile as I am incapable of proving it to you. I’m not going to rehash past grievances between you and me. That’s history.

    But I am not incapable of proving how our country is quickly reaching the precipice of downfall.

    What is it going to take to make you realize we have to turn away from our present course?

  248. What is it going to take to make you realize we have to turn away from our present course?

    Our present course appears to be stalemate. Yes, we should turn away from that course. Liberals have to agree that change need to be made to some social programs and conservatives have to agree that we have a way overblown military and that our citizens, enjoying the lowest tax rate in some 50 or 60 years, need to pay up a little more.

    Newsflash: I am leaning very heavily toward eliminating the whole class warfare debate and letting ALL the Bush tax cuts expire … regardless of income.

  249. Gorilla, 😈

    I have always wanted to ask these old hippies that attend these green on the outside, commie red on the inside earth first events that want to control population growth, “why don’t you love mother earth and eliminate yourself “fer the childen?” I’ll even offer the women “free love” if I can find a body condom.

    I’ll volunteer to scatter their ashes on the fruit trees.

    My favorite was the leech that didn’t own a car “for the carbon foot print” but was “hitchhiking” across the country as transportation.

    I doubt she could possibly grab the irony of her position.

  250. Rutherford,

    enjoying the lowest tax rate in some 50 or 60 years, need to pay up a little more.

    You still don’t get it Rutherford. Forget the argument of federal taxes, as it is fruitless. Our personal total tax burden, whatever its nomenclature, is higher than it has ever been.

    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Automobile Registration Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    Capital Gains Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    CDL License Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Estate Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges (Tax on top of tax)
    IRS Penalties (Tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Local Income Tax
    Luxury Tax
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Parking Meters
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Septic Permit Tax
    Service Charge Taxes
    Social Security Taxes
    Road Usage Tax (Truckers)
    Sales Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Toll Booth Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Recurring and non-Recurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Toll Bridge Taxes
    Toll Tunnel Taxes
    Traffic Fines
    Trailer Registration Tax
    Utility Tax
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Water-craft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax
    Gasoline Tax
    Federal Income Tax

    We are taxed to death Rutherford. Even in death.

  251. G, personally, I like the bearded guy who gets maximum “life force energy” from fruit right off the tree.

    You mean ‘Star’? 🙂 He has the makings of a 21st century Charlie Manson. The coast of California has some of the most beautiful sand and surf in the world – and most of the world’s strangest people.

  252. I doubt she could possibly grab the irony of her position.

    I had the same reaction to the guy who advocated taking the bus but then I thought about it a bit more. Both he and the hitchhiker were talking about not adding more to the carbon footprint, i.e. using what is already polluting the air rather than adding another vehicle to the equation.

  253. Our present course appears to be stalemate.

    Our present course is a default bond rating, followed by hyperinflation circa 1930s Argentina style, followed by chaos.

  254. I had the same reaction to the guy who advocated taking the bus but then I thought about it a bit more. Both he and the hitchhiker were talking about not adding more to the carbon footprint, i.e. using what is already polluting the air rather than adding another vehicle to the equation.

    How convenient. 🙄 If there wasn’t demand for fossil fuel transportation, we wouldn’t need a bus or a car, would we.

    That gal hitchhiking needs a tattoo slapped on her forehead that reads, “Gas, grass or ass. Nobody rides for free.”

  255. Forget the argument of federal taxes, as it is fruitless.

    Tex, from the perspective of blaming Obama or the Federal government, most of the taxes you listed are just plain silly. When we talk about taxes being at an all time low, we are talking Federal. When we are talking about bringing in badly needed revenue to relieve the Fed deficit and balance the Fed budget, we are talking Federal taxes.

    All those other taxes got you down? Yell at your Mayor or Governor.

  256. Our present course appears to be stalemate. Yes, we should turn away from that course. Liberals have to agree that change need to be made to some social programs and conservatives have to agree that we have a way overblown military and that our citizens, enjoying the lowest tax rate in some 50 or 60 years, need to pay up a little more.

    How generous. You’ll let us make windowdressing changes to unconstitutional entitlements so you can carp about “draconian cuts” and demand real cuts to something that is actually completely with in the federal perview. How very progressive of you. And the result will only be a long term depression and the loss of entire generations to economic enslavement…you’ll forgive me if I am not enthusiastic about your offer.

  257. Rutherford, you support a party that depends on keeping people dependent – that should be contra to everything a guy like you learned and was taught. That has ruined the black community the last 40 years. That is undeniable. Your candidates buy votes pitting class against class. That is undeniable. Damn near half the people in this country pay nothing in federal taxes. Please read page 10 and educate yourself – Table 2

    When we talk about taxes being at an all time low, we are talking Federal. When we are talking about bringing in badly needed revenue to relieve the Fed deficit and balance the Fed budget, we are talking Federal taxes.

    I don’t know how you can be a graduate of an Ivy League University in math of all things and not understand this simple concept: We as individuals don’t set an individual allocation for each tax. It’s one pie, one pocket. Could it be that is why you feel broke, even though federal taxes are at an “all-time” low for the Rutherford household? The bottom bracket was 1% until 1913 – look it up.

    Of course, we have FICA and Medicaid now, and if memory serves that’s another “investment” you will receive pennies on the dollar of the 6.25% out of your paycheck off the top, or if a small business, you can double that.

    If you think soaking the rich is the answer, raise the limit to $2million a year, reassign scumbag Warren Buffet’s “income” to taxable income instead of management fees (then hear him scream), etc…

    I am so tired of debating this issue with idiots. 😡

  258. When we were saddled with the Federal Income Tax as a permanent fixture, it was only a tax on “the rich”.

    It isn’t a revenue problem. It is a spending problem. When you keep expanding government in a number of directions it was never meant to go, and buying more and more votes with entitlements funded with other people’s money, then there will never be enough money, just as there is not enough money now to meet what has been promised.

  259. “Our present course appears to be stalemate.” -Rutherford

    And there my friends, is the destruction of America presented in one dumb ass sentence.

    Don’t worry Rutherford, there are plenty of dumb fucks in this country who don’t even know a crashing air bus when they’re sitting in first class. They scoff at me all the time, the dow is booming after all.

    Talk about monetary policy and you get placed with the radicals on Hucking’s campus.

    Fuck it. I’m going to keep on profiting off the sheep who refuse to see reality. Stalemate? LOL!

    Speaking of which, the Rabbit got a nasty introduction to capital gains tax. That shit sucks!

  260. “Speaking of which, the Rabbit got a nasty introduction to capital gains tax.”

    Don’t worry Rabbit. Obama has a plan to reduce capital gains tax across the board by ensuring there are no capital gains. It’s the only fair thing to do.

  261. I got good news. I got way more back on my taxes this year – in fact, way too much giving the “feckless” Whitehouse a free loan of $6,000.00 for a good part of the year.

    ————-

    Of course, I had to lose money in several stocks to do that, but in a liberal world, owning stocks makes one rich.

    I’m frankly surprised they haven’t offered to tax my refund.

  262. Man, I’ve been reading about the housing collapse in China.

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m well aware I’m the village idiot of finance. I didn’t even know how Capital Gains tax works when it comes to day trading. Ouch.

    But, humor an idiot, dear fellows.

    Who the fuck is going to buy treasury bonds when QE2 ends in June?

    The Chinese? How?

    Oh, I forgot, Obama and the clowns in Congress cut spending by 1% after it going up 30% since 2008. We’re “stagnant”. Its cool.

    For the life of me, I can’t see how the entire world isn’t going to default.

    The Rabbit don’t know shit. But he does know broke when he sees it.

    And he sees it everywhere!

    Tigre, the keys to my new house are in my pocket as I write this.

    Unfortunately, I can’t take you up on your kind and classy offer, although it pains me because I know what treats you have in your humidor.

    Sadly, a scum bag on the internet bragging about recklessly investing his mortgage payment in silver while living in a foreclosed home can’t really go public.

    The ironic thing is this new house is the first one I’ve ever bought that I have a sense of pride about. (Its my 4th).

    It might not have been ethical, but I was in the drivers seat the day I stopped paying on the under water bitch.

    I love the feeling of being in the game. Fuck passivity. In retrospect, it might have been my ethical side which longed for a BoA modification. It certainly was the rational thing for them to do. But fuck ‘um.

    Never again will I be a passive sheep. There are no certainties in life.

  263. I have to laugh Rabbit. My $6,800 silver investment is now worth $8,500+. Took all of about three or four weeks to make a 25% return. Total crock of crap. 🙂 This is like the tech bubble of 1999. I can smell a collapse; and just like 2000, I’m just as greedy. I’ll never learn.

    If I had any sense I’d dump it now.

  264. Tex — dump it man. Dump it now. Remember, like a home, you haven’t made shit until you sell.

    Rabbit, congrats. A new chapter. A new environment. A new start. Let me know if you ever get a P.O. box. The offer stands. And since my research “suggests” there might have been some trade restriction “issues” in the acquistion, the need for anonymity runs both ways. 😯 But if silver is working for you, and you have the sense to unload before it tanks, find your way to a Drew Estate Liga Privada No.9 or T-52, preferably a chruchill or double corona. Nirvana!

  265. Thanks Tigre,

    It is a new beginning. I told my wife last June not to worry, everything would be OK: We would own a home again. I never told her I was talking out of my ass.

    By August, when it became apparent we both weren’t losing our jobs, I started buying a few coins. Try explaining that one to your wife. “A fucking coin collection???!!!!????”

    I’m lucky. I don’t have to deal with Tex’s dilemma as I obviously cashed out for the house. I have 14 ounces of physical. Thats it.

    I will say this. I’ve spent countless sleepless nights thinking about it. Silver is nowhere near inflation adjusted highs. The University of Texas just took it’s entire endowment fund, all 1 billion dollars, and bought gold.

    Are the politicians even in the right time zone with austerity measures? Will the Fed end up printing again?

    I see a dip coming, particularly in June when QE2 runs it’s course. (The hubris of me making predictions like this cracks me up). Plus, the silver to gold ratio is jacked up right now, which makes me wonder if the bubble isn’t more pronounced in poor man’s gold.

    After I move in, and have some kind of semblance of a budget (shit is out of whack when you move….the old lady wants carpet, some new furniture…etc)…I’m going long in gold and silver.

    100 dollar ounce silver. 3,000 dollar gold.

    It’s hard to look at. But our country is bankrupt.

    On a side note, I just hope I’m not unwittingly moving to Akeldama.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akeldama

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/264230-university-of-texas-s-gold-buy-is-a-game-changer

  266. Tigre, up to my ass right now in oil, gold and silver in this 401K account. It’s only a part of my retirement, so I have fun with it. I’ve burned so many times by Wall Street, my ass permanently smokes.

    But I ain’t taking it with me and I live so simply anymore that I’m having fun. My biggest concern right now is making sure my wife is taken care of, that my kids are ready for adulthood, and that my pup doesn’t get out of the backyard.

    If you want a really simple, care free life, I’ve got one. But it’s boring as hell anymore.

  267. Shit Tex..you almost have to keep it for a year, as i learned the hard way. I had no idea there was a difference between short term and long term profit. 🙂

  268. oh scratch that….its in a 401k.

    Gentlemen, it is in fact truly the Apocalypse….as the Rabbit keeps giving Tex financial advice.

  269. Yeah, I won’t be working with this money for at least 10 years, so what the hey – take a huge risk, and if you get burned, ignore it.

    So you’re day trading now old friend? Balls of stainless steel! 🙂

  270. Nah…I meant buying options…sometimes only a month or two out. Hell…I don’t even know what day trading is.

  271. Hey Rutherford. Do you know those maggots at Fat Grannies are still bad mouthing you there? I think I ran into Poolman operating under another name – nobody could be that untalented with an insult. If it wasn’t Al Poolman, it had to be his idiot twin brother.

    Anyway, I defended your honor and reminded them you were so stupid and open to abuse, you graduated from Harvard – which would make you about somewhere in the neighborhood of about a million times smarter than aborting loving, ball sucking goober at Fat Grannies. And Blowhard Jim Wright and his band of merry parrots don’t even rank ball sucker.

    I think the anonymous blog owner has abandoned that shit hole (I hope I added to its demise) at Fat Grannies, and the few remaining posters left there (until tonight) are actually quite reasonable and basically use it for their own posting board. 🙂

  272. Speaking of which, the Rabbit got a nasty introduction to capital gains tax. That shit sucks!

    You pay one way or the other. The government will get theirs. 🙂

  273. Tex … I’m with Tigre … take your gains while you got ‘em cos paper gains ain’t sh*t. You’ll kick yourself when that mother drops.

    Oh, you’re both quite right and that’s the smart play. Since when have I invested smartly? 🙂

    I’ll kick myself even harder if I bail out and it continues to escalate. I did that with both MicroSoft before anybody knew who Microsoft was, and then repeated the mistake with Cisco when it was flying high.

    I figure those 100 shares I owned of Microsoft in the early 90s would be worth about a million now. 😡

  274. And now for something completely mundane. After weeks (no, months) of spending about 20% of my day in the f*cking bathroom I finally got up the courage to see the gastro man. He tells me he wants a “sample”.

    Now get this: for the past few months, I’ve been dropping “samples” like rain from a Seattle skyline with no trouble at all. Now that I need to “collect” the sucker, I can’t go!

    Would someone please tell me why my mind and body are conspiring to drive me insane? 😈

    I know … must be ‘cos I’m a liberal. 🙂

  275. Would someone please tell me why my mind and body are conspiring to drive me insane?

    I’ve found the cure Mr. Rutherford. 😆 Peanut butter….or several handfuls of nuts. Trust me! 😆

    I ought to fly to CT, because I couldn’t afford the Obama gasoline prices anymore, and kick you in the groin for not getting to a doctor sooner. What would I do with my life without the Rutherford Lawson blog?

  276. I’ll kick myself even harder if I bail out and it continues to escalate.

    Well, you just captured why I was such a sh*tty short term investor. I was never a day-trader but I loved short term trades … maybe a few weeks. But I was a f*cking neurotic. I’d hang on and it would drop and I’d sell pissed off. OR I’d sell thinking I’d done really well, and it would continue to rise. I was miserable most of the time but still addicted to the “game”. I eventually got halfway decent at it but never lost my neuroses.

  277. Now that we are discussing stool samples, the definite older adult topic of discussion, I am contemplating a few deep thoughts.

    Is there anything over the last two years that hasn’t been discussed on the Rutherford Lawson blog? Sex = check; anatomy = check; politics = double check; kids = check; war = check; guns = check; law = check……

    See Rutherford. You should love me. Being the same age, we suffer from the same maladies. 🙂 At least you have an empathetic shoulder to cry on.

  278. What would I do with my life without the Rutherford Lawson blog?

    The prognosis for the time being is G-A-S. Of course, he wants to rule out other stuff along the way, hence the samples. In a day or two (once I deliver this “baby”) I start on anti-biotics … ooooo goody!!!

    Tex were you suggesting peanut butter sandwiches or suppositories? 😯

  279. No doofus – I want you shoving it down – not shoving it up! I don’t know if it greases the tube or what, but a big spoonful of peanut butter works wonders several hours later.

    One medical question. You’ve never suffered from any slight form (not a great description) of cystic fibrosis or Crohn’s disease, have you?

  280. Thanks Tex.

    I love coming here once a year, but as the saying goes..I sure wouldn’t want to live here.

    I just hope my old dog doesn’t have to get put down while I am here. She’s 14 and had a stroke today. Vet says by tomorrow we should know the extent. 😦

  281. That’s right R, grab a handful of Jiffy- creamy or with peanuts denpending on your wants- and shover it up your ass. That’ll bring it right out…

    “I know … must be ‘cos I’m a liberal.” – R

    Come on R, being a liberal means you’re full of shit, so this isn’t the cause. See, since it is your shit that you have to give, your ass is so tight you’re making diamonds. If it was someone elses shit, well then, it’d flow like the Amazon…

  282. (Reuters) — The Republican-controlled Oklahoma Senate dealt organized labor another defeat on Tuesday when it voted to repeal a collective bargaining law.

    The 29-19 vote means that some of the state’s fastest-growing cities no longer will be required to collectively bargain with sanitation workers and other non-uniformed workers.

    The measure already passed the Oklahoma House and now goes to Governor Mary Fallin, a Republican, who is expected to sign it into law.

    The bill would repeal a law passed in 2004, when the Oklahoma Legislature and the governorship were controlled by Democrats. The law required cities with populations over 35,000 to engage in collective bargaining with non-uniformed workers, though it did not affect Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Norman and Muskogee, which already were engaged in collective bargaining.

  283. Rutherford –

    Shit hell fire. What am I doing over at M&H, except for the fun of tweaking the noses of the intellectually lame? (And that’s gotten so easy I am frankly bored with it.)

    This looks like a real discussion place, with real adults who actually read!

    May I play?

    Jim

    p.s. I heard an ugly rumour that you like math. Any truth to that?

  284. Sir:

    I have been studying the FairTax proposal. It looks so good to me that I am sure I am missing something.

    Are you familiar with it? If so, have you a comment?

  285. Huck,

    I love coming here once a year, but as the saying goes..I sure wouldn’t want to live here.

    I liked the way my old boss described NYC. It offers the best and worst of everything the world has to offer.

    I just hope my old dog doesn’t have to get put down while I am here. She’s 14 and had a stroke today. Vet says by tomorrow we should know the extent

    I’m sorry to hear that, and can sympathize more than most being I’ve lost three dogs the last two and a half years – both of my 13 labs had to be put down.

    If you have never had to do that, and I hope you don’t, let me tell you this.

    Don’t feel guilty; it’s the last loving thing you will ever do for your pet. Don’t be “frightened” as it is a very peaceful process – it is a massive overdose of anesthesia and they literally go to sleep and are dead before the hypo is empty; there is no pain. Stay with your dog and let your eyes be the last thing she ever sees as you hug her. I was glad that I stayed with both my pets, as I dearly loved them both.

    I have never had any regrets about the mercy I showed. The one that killed me was last year when my pretty mutt was hit right in front of me.

  286. Poor Rutherford. 😆 Now that I read #404, I too had to laugh at the suggestion.

    You know Rutherford – your liberal pals which you’re none to fond at some of these rinky dink, cowardly bleating sheep, brain dead, speech police sites (i.e. Fat Grannies, Jumping Jimmie Wright) think you enjoy abuse.

    I think you simply enjoy the give and take with people who aren’t your puppets, and it represents a strength and maturity few libs have. I think you actually do abide by the spirit of the Bill of Rights.

    I give you credit pal, as I did the late Jim Dougan for what it is worth. I have a hellavu lot more respect for you and Hippie than I do for those bed wetters.

  287. As Gorilla indicated, the “classic” comment of my getting my head out of my ass moved from 404 to 406 thanks to a visit from Pfesser. (Tigre, I must admit that was priceless.)

    On that note, guys before you put Pfesser through the usual hazing, please note that he is an Enemy of The State M&H Blog, “affectionately” known here as Fat Grannies. So, any enemy/skeptic of Fat Grannies is a friend of mine.

  288. Pfesser, I am a man of odd contradictions and choices. I majored in Math (theoretical, not applied) in college. It was my weakest subject (I mean REAL weak) but I refused to change majors out of stubborn pride, It wrecked my GPA. BUT I do think it got me a slightly higher starting salary in my first real job.

    And oddly enough, going so deep into math that it started to resemble religion, I emerged with a real insight into our number system, one that I think should be taught to kids but isn’t.

  289. So here is the final chapter in my digestive saga (only final because I’m sure some of you are grossed out by it and others are bored to death).

    The “baby” came at about 7:15am this morning. He was a runt, barely filling the remaining two receptacles that were not filled yesterday at 10:00am.

    I head out to Quest Diagnostics only to be told that they no longer take my insurance. Now, mind you, the samples have to be turned in within 24 hours of being taken and one of my three was at 10am yesterday. It is now, 9:10 so I’ve only got 50 minutes to drop this thing off.

    As luck would have it, I’m told there is a lab right around the corner who takes my insurance. I jump in the car and zip over there. “OH, Sir I am sorry we can’t use those receptacles.” I’m thinking “lady, sh*t is sh*t, WTF does it matter what receptacle it’s in?? Ah but it turns out this place doesn’t use a solution in their receptacles. Their lab can’t handle my samples. It’s now 9:20 and I’m seriously coming up against a deadline. To make matters more complicated I need to start an antibiotic regimen ASAP and I can’t give another sample as long as I’m on the pills. Well f*ck me!!

    I go back to Quest and ask how much it will cost. I went through some significant anxiety yesterday over this so I’m willing to pay a pretty high price to not go through it again.

    So, gentlemen, I’m out about $400. To add salt to the wound, the procedure at the place that takes my insurance would have actually been significantly easier. And of course, my wife is livid that we’re down 400 smackers from where we were when we woke up this morning. (She also had to put up with a full day of my complaining about my ass.)

    Like I said, well f*ck me.

    P.S. Sorry gang, there is no way the government can make the current clusterf*ck of the insurance/health care industry any worse. It is at rock-f*cking-bottom! 👿

  290. Tex to answer your question … no cystic fibrosis or history of Crohns. The latter particularly important because I had an employee with Crohns several years ago and he had to wear a colostomy bag for a short period of time while being treated. THAT is not something I would like to sign up for. I’m not exactly Robert Redford to begin with, but damn!

  291. Because I know you care about the ‘truth’. Explain how this makes sense to you, and while you’re at it, explain PP again and how they don’t PROMOTE abortions?

    A state-funded sex education Web site that tells teens an abortion is “much easier than it sounds” has drawn fire from outraged pro-lifers who say mariatalks.com is glossing over ugly truths, steering teens toward the controversial procedure and counseling them how to keep mom and dad in the dark.

    http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0420site_no_stigma_in_abortion_critics_blast_state-funded_sex-ed_web_site/srvc=home&position=0

  292. Tex, thanks for the description of what happens during euthanizing a pet. I actually didn’t know the procedure and one of my worst fears is ever having to put Ollie down. Your account at least put things in perspective for me. It never even occurred to me to be there during the procedure, but I think you’re right that it is the right thing to do.

    Honestly, my nightmare scenario is being faced with a pet medical bill I can’t afford and putting the pet down. How do I ever explain that decision to a 7 year old? I just hope my buddy dies of old age right here at home when the time comes, just like my sister’s cat did when we were growing up.

  293. G, you must not have read your own article very carefully. The article took great pains to differentiate how PP’s web site and literature differs from mariatalks.com. PP is explicit about the physical risks of abortion and the importance of parental involvement. mariatalks.com does not do these things.

    mariatalks.com is simply irresponsible. Tax funding is irrelevant. The site should be shut down regardless of funding because it is wrong-headed from the word go.

  294. R, do you really believe anything PP says? The stats say much, much more, and that is some 300,000 babies aborted… and counting…

  295. G, it’s always a dilemma for a President to fly into a state in an emergency situation. His entourage and security needs alone distract from the effort to bring help to those in need.

    And yes, since I do not view Planned Parenthood as a threat, I DO believe the statistics they quote: 3% of what they do is abortion related. For pro-lifers, that is 3% too many. I fully understand that.

  296. Welcome to the board PFesser. Invite your friend James, who is also worthy, intelligent and an adult. Here, diversification is actually practiced and you will enjoy adult conversation, where both disagreement and agreement is welcome.

    I think I can safely speak for Rutherford when I call R.L. the neighborhood pub.

    Rutherford, unlike what you have read at the “beloved” Fat Grannies, is both a scholar and a gentleman – even if his head does screw on counterclockwise. 🙂

  297. “P.S. Sorry gang, there is no way the government can make the current clusterf*ck of the insurance/health care industry any worse. It is at rock-f*cking-bottom!”

    Just watch.

  298. Honestly, my nightmare scenario is being faced with a pet medical bill I can’t afford and putting the pet down. How do I ever explain that decision to a 7 year old? I just hope my buddy dies of old age right here at home when the time comes, just like my sister’s cat did when we were growing up.

    “R”, I can’t speak for the procedure in CT, but in Oklahoma, euthanasia is quite reasonable. I think I paid less than $50.00 each time. Most vets are bleeding hearts like me when it comes to animals.

    Surgeries are outrageous, boarding a second mortgage, and prescription drugs almost as big a rip off as ours, but the vets do it right when it comes time. They even sent me flowers one time.

    And I have to think with size the determining factor in cost, a cat would be even cheaper.

  299. Man, that’s awful Rutherford. I don’t know what to tell you about insurance anymore – but I agree with Tigre. Government could make it worse – a whole lot worse.

    My bigger beef is with pharmaceuticals. My Lipitor was changed to generic and they started charging me more than double the rate. Now what kind of B.S. is that?

  300. R, for real, can I have your candor?

    Aren’t you the wee bittiest concerned that this renewed “birther” debate might well prove to be right?

    http://drudgereport.com/flash7.htm

    Honestly, much like global warming, the legions of libs that insist there’s iron clad proof of citizenship don’t have iron clad proof yet mock and ridicule anyone that would suggest that there might be something to it.

  301. That P.P. argument is specious Rutherford. I had this argument with the insufferable Poolman before he backed off, even providing P.P.’s financials to prove it.

    Abortion may constitute on 3% of the procedures, but I calculated a couple of threads back with detail, that it constitutes well over 25% of their revenue. That’s easily determined by taking 300K abortions per year and multiplying by an estimated figure per abortion. Their not doing abortions for $50 a visit, I can promise you. 😡

  302. Gorilla,

    You being a military strategist, should welcome these scenes. I think you soldiers commonly refer to these gatherings as “high value targets.” 😈

    I’m going to go can some “tomatoes” for the event and warm up my right arm. Anybody else got a mitt?

  303. Tex, I believe they’re referred to as “target-rich environments.”

    Gorilla, we need guidance. Tex and I were too cowardly to serve.

  304. They are certainly target rich environments, with several High Value Targets. I suggest a MOAB. Google it.

  305. Tigre, that’s the words I was looking for: “Target Rich Environment.” 😈 That’s the ticket.

    A MOAB. 😆 Oh, I’m familiar with that one. But that seems so expensive for such low hanging fruit Gorilla. We should reserve those for some Sudden Jihadi Syndrome types.

    Wouldn’t a couple of Blue 82s suffice? That really would be the proverbial daisy cutters if it landed in a couple of Portland or Frisco parks. 🙂

    Launch them with a couple of nice, pink rainbow parachutes with peace signs.

  306. I had to get off the computer and rediscover nature. It really has been good for me, but difficult to stay off this thing. I am just passing through, as I wanted a couple weeks of fresh air. Pool season is in full swing, besides. I haven’t read all the posts here, just scanned a few. Hope everyone is doing well.

    A few new folks… just had to say whoever this WP person is, he seems cut from the same rag as GI – even has delusions of debating me on other blogs. Funny that. Especially since I haven’t been on any for a week and a half. 😆

    Pfesser, nice “seeing” you over here. I haven’t done M&H for sometime as it is sloooooowwww loading. Just don’t tell them over here that you voted for Obama, or you’ll be in the crosshairs and asked to defend him continually.

    Back out into the sunshine for me, 😎 I’ll check back later…

  307. R, for real, can I have your candor?

    Tigre, the birther thing is the single signpost of a person who:

    1) is a racist OR
    2) has no grasp of policy so he reaches for straws OR
    3) is your generic conspiracy nut

    I’m sure there is a 4, 5 and 6 if I bothered to think more about it. I find it funny that the Corsi book is the result of Donald’s “investigation”, how convenient! There is no investigation funded by Donald. Donald is a rank liar, propagandist and crook who has me so hooked on Apprentice that I shamefully watch it every week when I should boycott it.

    But let me say, I’d buy tickets to the presser where Obama says “gang, I’ve got you all fooled.” It would be the most mind-blowing scandal of our generation … right up there with LBJ ordering Kennedy’s murder and our never having landed on the moon! 🙂

  308. Honestly, much like global warming, the legions of libs that insist there’s iron clad proof of citizenship don’t have iron clad proof yet mock and ridicule anyone that would suggest that there might be something to it.

    Oh … the trick with conspiracy nuts is … there is no such thing as iron clad proof. Obama could produce a video of him exiting Stanley’s vagina with Hawaiian palm trees blowing in the background and hula dancers and it would be insufficient proof.

    (Are there palm trees in Hawaii? I pulled that out of my ass.)

  309. Abortion may constitute on 3% of the procedures, but …

    All I can say Tex is that Jon Kyl needed you on his staff. If he had quoted the amount of revenue devoted to abortion (which is relevant based on government FUNDING arguments) he might not have gotten into hot water. Instead he chose to make what was “not intended to be a factual statement”. ROTFL 😆

  310. Dag, Poolman, I wish there was a “season” for webinar production so I could rake in the dough at least part of the year to get me through the dry spells. All I get are dry spells. 😦

  311. R, you never answered my question. But everything you said was expected.

    I must admit, I have a nagging doubt because of the reaction. What I know is that MSNBC don’t know shit, but that doesn’t stop them from saying that it’s “case closed.”

    Don’t you have a teeniest, weensiest, puniest concern that something that should be so easily disproved has not been?

  312. Rutherford, do you have a wireless connection? If not, you should get one. You could take the laptop unto the water closet with you while you’re producing samples and contribute to the discussions more. Like explaining why a birthers must be:

    1) racist OR
    2) has no grasp of policy so he reaches for straws OR
    3) is your generic conspiracy nut

    I especially like “racist.” What gives with that? I thought anybody that didn’t support Obama was a racist. Chris Matthews and Jimah Cartah said so. 🙄

  313. Wait. Poolman, native of Fat Granny’s, is warning Pfesser about THIS place?

    What is that – irony?

    No worries about the inhabitants, Pfesser. Tex describes this watering hole perfectly in #426. Only on occasion does it get a little WWE up in here, but you’ll love it.

  314. Rutherford, you should have dedicated an entire blog entry to this captured turd of yours. Include a high def pic of said turd, as well.

    That way, we could no longer say your blog entry blaming Sara Palin on the Arizona shooting was your worst blog offering of all time.

  315. Muffy, 😆

    Pitiful, isn’t it? I figured Poolman, the Grand Wizard of Phoenix, had so shamed himself here with conspiracies, Jooo hating, and misstatement of facts that he had copped a new ID. If not, he needs to get back over to Fat Granny’s and meet his twin.

    Same puerile humor; same insults; same misspellings.

    ————

    Hey Poolman, I’ll give you a hint. Wayne and I have much in common. Consider Wayne my sock puppet – alter ego, so to speak. Wayne serves three purposes: (1) He allows me to mock Jumping Jimmie Wright some more which is loads of fun; he allows me to mock the psychophants, imbeciles, and nags at Fat Grannies at my leisure; (3) He sends a statement to Jumping Jimmie Wright and Matthew the real owner of Fat Grannies that I ain’t going away and they couldn’t block me if they wanted to. 🙂

    Wayne today, perhaps Poolman, Village Idiot Apprentice tomorrow. 😈

    Welcome back Wizard – I was just sure they had turned off your lights with you still hunched over the keyboard.

  316. The dollar may be crashing in front of our eyes.

    Fuck you President Obama. Fuck you for your insane deficit spending while you debase the dollar.

    You are a nightmare on a level that even your biggest critics didn’t predict.

    Raising taxes? Take more from us? Kill all the rich people and take their money and we are still fucked!

    Bush, the minute you made the 4 banks too big to fail, you set this country up to be destroyed by Obama and the Fed.

    At this point someone could tell me I’m out of a job because public school in its entirety is cut and I’d understand. I’d be bummed and worried. But I’d get it.

    I would love for someone to look at the debt and tell me where I’m wrong.

  317. Rabbit, you got me curious, so I looked. This is crazy. 😆

    I think it was less than four weeks ago, and I honestly can’t remember as my broker buddy just did it for me because he got tired of me sitting on my hands and wasting my life on the Rutherford Lawson blog, but here is the ROI – loanshark ROI.

    PROSHARES TRUST II ULTRA SILVER
    28 Shares 320.56 Up +15.44 today +5.06%
    Value: 8,975.68
    Cost: 6,823.48
    Unrealized Gain: 2,152.20

    This is like betting on the long shot at the horse race Rabbit and winning. I missed a phone call from the buddy around 3:00 PM EST and it was probably an emergency telling me to bail – naturally I missed it.

    31.5% return in less than four weeks. The stock market has become nothing but a complete crap shoot and manipulation, and there is no way in hell this particular stock should be priced that high.

    But hey! I’ll take it.

  318. I’ll tell you Rabbit a couple of stocks that I have done pretty well with as of late – a Canadian oil stock and Occidental Petroleum. It’s good enough for Hammer & Al Gore’s dad, it’s good enough for me.

    The Canadian oil stock I bought for my wife and it’s up 35%. I showed her the return to brag about my prowess and I expected a “payoff”, and she told me, “the performance wasn’t high enough.” 😆

    It’s really a wonder we ever had two children.

  319. Tigre, the birther thing is the single signpost of a person who:

    1) is a racist OR
    2) has no grasp of policy so he reaches for straws OR
    3) is your generic conspiracy nut
    ” – R

    But of course, what else could it be?

    Do you know what grades Obama got in college?

    How about what papers he wrote while in school or as the editor of the Harvard Law Review?

    Have you seen the official birth certificate?

    You could all of this conspiracy, and there’s probably some truth to that. But consider this: Obama has never been transparent and open to the People. No one knows what he has written, what grades he or have they seen his birth certificate. All of these things are super easy to put to rest, just release the documents, but he won’t.

    My guess is that his grades were not that good, so he’s got to hide that because it’ll conflict with this meme that he’s the smartest man on earth.

    Likewise, I’m guessing his college papers were not that good, and more than likely, had a very heavy ideological bend towards the left. He needs independents to think he’s not some radical, and those papers exposing his ideology would help that little charade.

    What I can’t figure is his birth certificate. My son was born in Hawaii, so I know the difference between the documents. The short form only acknowledges that there is a long form, which has all of the pertinent details that a typical birth certificate would have. But it is hard not to have some form of skepticism when Hawaii (overwhelmingly Dem, controlled by Unions and leftists) can’t seem to find the document, yet attests to its existence.

    We’ve had this chat before- can you explain why he refuses to release the document?

    There are really only two answers to this:
    A) The document doesn’t exist and thus he has no way of confirming his natural birth

    Or

    B) He intends to use the “birther conspiracy” as a political weapon against political opponents.

    I lean towards B, but pray A is the answer. Why? Because it would be, by far, the best way to absolve this nation of the sins Obama has committed. Every piece of legislation that he signed would be null and void. His Administration would be tossed out almost immediately and, more importantly, the Dems would suffer a fatal blow. The political devastation that would follow against the Dems would be without equal.

    Quite frankly, if the birther argument was correct, it’d be the greatest thing to happen to this nation in decades- the destruction of the left.

  320. Sir:

    Appreciate the kind invitation. This looks like my kind of place. People actually say, “I was wrong; you were right.” Imagine that.

    As for getting hazed as a new kid, what the hell…it goes with the territory, and I give as good as I get most of the time. I am just looking for a place where there is some thinking going on instead of toeing the party line and where personal hypocrisy is not lauded by all the “me-to” -ers. (retching violently) After that it’s Katie-bar-the-door. If I get my ass kicked, what the hell – I figure I learned something.

    re: math. You sound like me. I was smoking a lot of dope in the ‘seventies and flunking my classes and decided I needed to step up to the plate and stop embarrassing my old Dad. I visited the dean of a graduate school and he told me I had no chance of getting in, so I decided to do it anyway. Pissed me off. I studied biology like hell – which I hated – and got in and did OK. Stubbornness is good stuff, by god.

    re: Fat Grannies. Intellectual wasteland except for a very few remaining posters. I’ll take some credit for that. Sometimes old houses just have to be torn down, you know…I’ll stop by occasionally to make sure it doesn’t backslide to perdition. heh…heh…

  321. Nice attempt at humor BiW … first, my posts are the fairest you’re likely to see from any liberal and Pfesser was not referring to the articles but the comments section.

    If anything, my comments threads are a conservative “me too” chorus, not a liberal one.

  322. If anything, my comments threads are a conservative “me too” chorus, not a liberal one a valliant, but ultimately futile attempt to undo some the self-induced brain damage you’ve done to yourself with a consistent overdose of MSNBC.

    Fixed it for you.

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