Shame in Wisconsin and Washington

Wednesday ended with shame in Wisconsin. When Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker got punked by a fake David Koch, he shared a plan whereby he would trick the Senate Democrats into showing up in the capitol just long enough to establish a quorum whether they stayed during the entire session that day or not. It was a technicality that Walker would use to push his union busting legislation through. Of course, after sharing the plan in the recorded conversation with fake Koch, he had to abandon it. The deviousness of this Governor should have made what transpired Wednesday night predictable. The Senate Republicans stripped all budget language from the controversial bill and then rammed through a vote on the bill, claiming that without any budgetary content, a quorum was no longer needed.

The great shame here is that everyone was willing to compromise on the budget portions of the bill. Concessions on salary and benefits were going to be made. It was only the elimination of collective bargaining that was the issue. And it was that very issue that the Republican Senate rammed through by voting on that in isolation. If the majority of Wisconsin citizens were behind this, the legislative shenanigans might not be so bad. However, Wisconsin voters don’t want this bill passed. Walker is playing dictator. Hopefully the vote will be reversed on legal grounds. Hopefully, Walker will be impeached before he can be recalled.

Sadly, this week there is much shame to go around. Today, Peter King, a House representative from New York will launch an investigation into the radicalization of American Muslims. What purpose could this possibly serve except as a witch hunt against a particular religion? There is no doubt that Muslim radicals abroad have influenced the behavior of some American citizens, most notably Nidal Hasan in the Fort Hood shooting. However this is a law enforcement issue. It is not an issue for which any legislation is necessary. So why waste time on the legislative calendar to “investigate” the phenomenon? It’s pure grandstanding on the part of King who wants to appeal to the paranoid base of the Republican party.

You need to know only two things about King to know he is the wrong man to be launching this witch hunt. Back in the 1980’s King supported the terrorist actions of the Irish Republican Army (IRA). So much for his disdain for violence in the name of a cause. More recently, before the dead body of singer Michael Jackson was barely cold, King saw fit to call the musician a “low-life” and “pervert” because of past allegations of child abuse. While King had every right to his opinion about Jackson, his timing for speaking publicly could not have been worse. It established King as a first class jerk.

So now King enjoys the distinction of launching hearings that mark a new low precedent for our country, namely hearings that single out a particular religion as susceptible to violence and terrorism. Did we launch hearings about Irish-Catholics after Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City? Did we start a Congressional investigation into American Jews when bankers brought our economy to its knees? Up until today, our government hasn’t sanctioned singling out a particular religion for the actions of some of its members. Thanks to Peter King, those days are gone.

The events in Wisconsin and Washington this week illustrate that we live in sad times. One can only hope there will be political retribution for Walker and King who have brought shame on our democracy.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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35 thoughts on “Shame in Wisconsin and Washington

  1. Are you kidding?…..

    Now you’re going to snivel about dictators using anything they can to ram through midnight legislation that a majority don’t want?

    And you want it tested on legal grounds?

    Really?….

    You’ve got some big balls.

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  3. Thank God somebody finally had the nerve and good sense to call the fleebagger’s bluff. John McCain sure didn’t in 2008 and look what we got.

    Do you realize the precedent you support? If this is what it has come to, where elected officials simply don’t let issues come to a vote by not showing up, then we should do away with elections in their entirety and disband.

    What these idiots have attempted to do is not democracy – it’s anarchy. And it is palpable that somebody, perhaps many, are going to get killed when some simpleton with more brawn than brain, egged on by MSNBC fools and posts like this, blows a gasket. Giffords was shot by a madman. This time, somebody will be shot because imbeciles incited a mob.

    Second, you’re too timid and politically correct to admit that we have a problem in this country called homegrown radical Islam. The only way you’ll ever admit to that is if MSNBC determines there is indeed a problem, or heaven forbid you have a loved one killed over it. The only way to confront and correct a problem, is to first determine what is causing the problem.

    This is an honest opinion. Where I at one time thought you a formidable foe in debate, I now think you’re simply slow and unteachable in many respects – a buffoon. You’ve become a bleating sheep, a follower of a failed religion which is exactly what your political philosophy is, and a baby.

    In many ways, you’ve become as corrupted and dishonest as your left-wing party. You’re not just a shill anymore – you’ve become unhinged and a small part of a growing problem, that eventually we are going to have to confront in most likely a violent manner. When you can’t reason with someone, then the next step is apparent.

  4. R, weren’t you applauding the tactics used by Pelosi, et al. to get Obamacare through? And here you cry foul when the fleeing opposition would’ve faced the same result had they been present and voted. Yeah, really outrageous.

    Big balls indeed Rutherford.

  5. Tex is the anti-Christ! 😯 Lisa Simpson is his false prophet! Bart told me this right before Matt Groening performed his lobotomy! Now I have to warn the masses! 😆

    Seriously, I read 4 and think the latter half of that is rather prophetic/pathetic. Hook, line, and sinker. You sure do like the shiny things, eh Tex? Radical Islam. 🙄

    Second, you’re too timid and politically correct to admit that we have a problem in this country called homegrown radical Islam Christian dominionism. The only way you’ll ever admit to that is if MSNBC World Net Daily determines there is indeed a problem, or heaven forbid you have a loved one killed over it. The only way to confront and correct a problem, is to first determine what is causing the problem.

    This is an honest opinion. Where I at one time thought you a formidable foe in debate, I now think you’re simply slow and unteachable in many respects – a buffoon. You’ve become a bleating sheep, a follower of a failed religion which is exactly what your political philosophy is, and a baby.

    In many ways, you’ve become as corrupted and dishonest as your left -wing party. You’re not just a shill anymore – you’ve become unhinged and a small part of a growing problem, that eventually we are going to have to confront in most likely a violent manner. When you can’t reason with someone, then the next step is apparent.

  6. There is so much radical Islam going around nowadays, everyone wants to get in on it. Though Zionism is a humanist and secular concept, it is accepted as “god-ordained” by most Christian sects in the west today. This is due to ignorance of the true scriptural meaning of Zion and intentional deception introduced into the church over the past few centuries. Religious extremism is dangerous in any form. Christian and Islamic extremists drink from the same wellspring of authoritarianism – the desire to impose authority, to force submission to dogma, and to compel obedience. Choice is not an option. As conservative Christianity long ago ruled, choice is heresy.

  7. “And it was that very issue that the Republican Senate rammed through by voting on that in isolation.”

    I don’t think its called isolation when you invite people to a party and they decide not to show up. You said yourself that WI dems were removing themselves from the discussion, why the change of heart?

    Also, what do you think of the discourse by protesters during all of this? I am curious, because I notice you are already back to calling for people to get the beat down. And are noticeably silent on an issue you were very passionate about when you thought you could connect it to Palin.

  8. Huck asks, “why the change of heart?”

    Uh, the goofballs at MSNBC (like that dimwit Donny Deutsch) are outraged and are looking to fan the flames. As usual, Rutherford follows suit — and without a peep about the vitriolic rhetoric and threats, the misspelled signs, and Town Hall style shouting matches that are only “intolerable” when the dangerous right does it.

  9. Jesse Jackson was just on Fox News and he was acting just like Rutherford is.

    When the senate rammed ObamaCare down our throats, it was a good thing. When WI rams down legislation, it is an affront to our democracy.

    When Tea Party members got loud at town hall meetings, it was violent, racist rhetoric. When WI protesters close down a state government building and issue death threats to government officials, it’s just because they are frustrated with the affront to democracy.

    Nobody on the left seems to want to have those discussions. Jesse Jackson literally ignored them in interview every time they were asked about.

    And we can all see that Rutherford is going to do the same thing.

  10. “@sensico I love your drama. Dontcha love folks who assume they have to act ghetto with black folk? Like they speak “our language”. ”

    LMAO.

    Obama is one of them!

  11. Second, you’re too timid and politically correct to admit that we have a problem in this country called homegrown radical Islam Christian dominionism

    I hesitate to ask you Poolman being I consider you a borderline moron, but I must. Where is this “dominion” of Christianity you speak? Have we established a theocracy in this country I’m unaware? If memory serves, our Founding Fathers, mostly calling themselves “Christian”, broke away to found this country for just that purpose – a dominion of King George.

    Of course, there was another reason that is conveniently forgotten like taxation without representation that played a part but liberals like require to be invoked for survival, but that can wait another day.

    I’ll tell what is a real sign of a minion of the anti-Christ Poolman. A man professing himself somehow related to Christianity, quoting scripture, perverted usually in message, and then signing a petition in support of the largest abortion provider in the world, this side of Communist China. Congratulations in your continued support of infanticide.

    And I suppose somewhere, somehow, you’ll be able to justify that with scripture in your demented thought.

  12. Try that again…

    Of course, there was another reason that is conveniently forgotten like taxation without representation that played a part. But liberals like you require to be invoked for survival. That can wait another day.

  13. I am amazed that anybody would welcome a hypocrite of biblical proportions like the Irreverent and vulgar Jesse Jackson into the room, lest it be for the purposes of demonstrating what appeals to liberals – lies and propaganda for self gain.

    Why do we condemn John Edwards, but excuse Jesse Jackson? Is it because Edward’s wife was dying? Is it because we hold blacks to a lower standard?

    Is that worse than playing self-righteous Reverend, when you’re straight from the gates of hell, and have made yourself a multi-millionaire and handsome living by creation of racial strife? If Jackson were white, he would be condemned as a sicko.

    Is Edwards really worse that recognizing in retrospect, when Jackson was “spiritual adviser” to Slick Willy during the Lewinsky affair concerning the counseling of sexual depravity, Jackson wasn’t acting as adviser, but mentor?

    Jesse Jackson is a deprave man, as is Jeremiah Wright. It remains to be seen if Obama reaches their level, but he’s off to a good start.

  14. “Where is this “dominion” of Christianity you speak?”

    It’s everywhere. You can see it when we have Mormon presidential candidates being forced to explain how their religion is really just a Christian sect. You see it when we have a Christian presidential candidate being forced to pray at the Wailing Wall to show he is in support of Israeli Jews.

    When politicians are allowed to stop putting up a religious front in order to get elected, then we can begin saying there is no Christian dominion in this country. And not until then.,

    “Have we established a theocracy in this country I’m unaware?”

    Not yet, but we’re working on it!

  15. From the prior thread:

    “A mountain out of a molehill. By the way, James O’Keefe needs a serious ass-whupping.”

    Rutherford, what happened to toning down our violent political rhetoric?

    Oh Huck you misunderstand me. I’m not talking violent political rhetoric. James O’Keefe truly needs a good ass-whupping.

    Or let me put it this way. James O’Keefe is the result when a child does not receive sufficient ass-whuppings. He has grown into the political Allen Funt. Trouble is his videos are not funny and wreak unnecessary havoc.

    Were I of less sound mind and sounder body, I’d punch him right in the nose. 👿

  16. Yeah, but Huck you’re a religious bigot. And these politicians? Nobody is demanding they say those things or do those things they do. They do it for the same reasons Obama says he’s a man “of faith.” It sells – and it panders for a vote. And it’s pretentious and phony. And it has little or nothing to do with faith.

    Come on Huck. You’re generally an honest guy. So be honest. Any semblance of Christianity sends you into revulsion, followed by convulsion because you see what you want to see. And the tragic part is that the chances very, very good that soon, you’re going to die of myocardial infarction. Medical medicine and self-will will invariably succumb to genetics. I don’t mean to frighten you, but you’re dead man walking with the high probability of death at reasonably young age. It will not surprise me in the least that one day I stroll in here and find out that you followed Jim Dougan. And I would hate that, because I find you funny, sometimes very clever, and political astute. But you are not astute at something far more important. Neither was Jim Dougan. His time is up – his fate sealed. Beyond tragic. And I don’t want to follow that path, because I know it’s the ultimate losing proposition and nothing is preventing me from dropping dead either but a few missed beats.

    In fairness, I am becoming more aware your position not so much Jooo hater, as equal opportunity and garden variety religious basher. So you see through that prism of bigotry, as if everybody thought like, the world would be whole. And we know that is not true.

    Jerod Laughner thinks like you. Timothy McVeigh thought like you. Communist China thinks like you. The Soviet Bloc thought like you. The Khymer Rouge thought like you. Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Kim Jong Il all think like you. Even Charlie and Martin Sheen think like you. Do you ever give consideration to that? The party of common mindset which you live your life?

    So the fact remains whether religious or not, none of really righteous. That is why we have need for God and laws that supersede man. To provide us a basis of something other than the moral equivalency you project. In my opinion, you are incapable of determination in sound judgment concerning religion, because your vantage point is so skewed, all you see is the sin. And I’m hear to tell you, if that is all you want to find, you won’t have to look hard. You can read me and get all you need. 🙂

    But you ignore facts like Christians do more good works without even close competition on their own dime than any group in the world. You ignore most of founders were religious, and most of those professed Christians. At most, one founder might have thought like you do. Most of these famous academic institutions you’d strive to teach were started by Christians, which over time wickedness won out over their basic foundations. Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Princeton. Doesn’t change the fact they were started by Christians with a deep seed of Christian theology.

    So I say this. I’m a Christian and I have no problem with a Mormon as President. I know far more Christians than you ever will, and have never heard so much as one complaint about Romney’s “religion.” So where I feel like your’s is simple opinion spoon fed by secular media, I know better. Many Christians do recognize the fact that Romney is Obamacare Lite. We do recognize Romney vacillates like a fan when it comes to social issues, pandering to the audience.

    You form your opinions from what you hear second hand – and that makes you equally as uninformed, equally guilty as someone like Poolman. Obviously, you’re much brighter than Poolman, but you still speak about things based on a bias of which you know little or nothing of – it’s just your opinion, and one that is not based on much fact.

    Here’s what I see. Men like you that wish to remove any semblance of faith from the public square. Men like you that have turn our universities in to halls of irreligious bigotry and bias. And let’s face it. Higher education is the next bubble to burst. You’re walking in to a dying industry – at least the higher education form. The ACLU removing Christian symbolism from state seals that long predate their union with the Republic. Heathenism celebrated – faith ridiculed. And look what that has got us? Public schools in disarray, many gang warfare in the halls. An absolute lack of respect for authority. Drugs prevalent, perversion sinking to depths where there is no longer shame; crime rampant, abortion the law.

    We worry far more about whales and puppies than we do about our children. This is depraved thinking, of which you play a small part. So no matter how much I enjoy your political commentary, I never forget in reality you are my enemy.

  17. Lot’s of typos. Sorry. I left out an us, misspelled here as hear, etc….

    Tired and burnt out on blogging. Probably time to take a break, which I’ll lie and say I’ll start tomorrow.

  18. So no matter how much I enjoy your political commentary, I never forget in reality you are my enemy.

    I love the way you love me. 😆 Reading Tex’s version of Christianity makes me chuckle. Everyone’s his enemy. That is except the enemies of the one he claims to profess allegiance to. There will be a rude awakening for you, Tex. But you will awaken.

    God decided to make this whole shebang for His pleasure. He even created the enemy. Yeah. It is all for Him. Then He tells us to love our enemy. Where’s the love, Tex?

    One day you’ll get that the flesh is disposable. Everything dies that is “matter” and goes through a transition – a transformation – a refining with fire. Only the spirit exists eternally. And even that consists of good and evil. Really, you cannot have one without the other. Oh, and our battle is not with flesh and blood. It is with the spirit. It is always a spiritual separation of good and evil.

    We put too much importance on worldly/physical things. They are temporal. That is why we should pray for our enemies. Prayer is a spiritual battlefield. Push back evil, but it still exists. It gives ground and we fill that void with good. Or we fill that void with evil. It’s one or the other. There is no neutral territory.

    Silly humans. What is it that puts you above the animals? The plants? The rocks? What are your thoughts made of?

  19. God decided to make this whole shebang for His pleasure. He even created the enemy. Yeah. It is all for Him. Then He tells us to love our enemy. Where’s the love, Tex?

    Spare me Poolman. You’re a blog version of Benny Hinn. 🙄 To you, that’s probably a compliment.

    Again, pointing out the the “born again” abortion proponent and borderline imbecile, where did Christ say anywhere in that scripture that whether we love them or not (and I generally like Huck), they weren’t still the enemy? Does even that simple fact escape you?

    Poolman, I am about to the point of only the second time in my life of putting someone on imaginary ignore, because I find you a disgrace and shameful to the message of Christ.

    You’re a blatant and obvious phony; a panderer and mooch; a friend to reprehension and indiscriminate. I don’t chuckle like you do, as I’m frankly mortified you showed up after following me over, and in front of someone like Rutherford, that you call yourself a Christian.

    You provide such a caricature of stupidity and nonconformity concerning anything of discernment, you feed the very picture of idiot rube and buffoon that so many here and elsewhere carry of the Christian community. You might as well have come in announced as snake charmer, with corn stuck between your teeth and a beer gut. Please Poolman, remember this:

    If you could picture those dumb, uneducated, bleating sheep dancing around on stage being healed and fainting from the touch of magic evangelists, in the theater of my mind, that is what I picture on the other end of you receiving this message; a gullible, uneducated, smelling of rancid body odor with permanent press, wrinkled shirt as dress up dolt. Maybe with one of those rope ties around your neck with Indian beads.

    And it’s frustrating in that I have worked hard to carry my faith in a way that doesn’t portray the stereotype of Christian idiots – but unfortunately, you’re so silly, immature, and childish in thought, that no matter my effort, I can’t overcome the stereotype.

    Every time you post and leave one of those messages you parrot from the pews, I cover my head with my hands in shame after reading it. 😳

  20. Here you go Poolman, Rutherford, and Huck. This is pretty much the category I put a strange brew of the three of you. I think this pretty much explains the first thought that comes to my mind when I think of your philosophy. Each one of you unique, yet just the same. Poolman takes a different approach, but the result is just the same. 😉

    Sometimes a single picture is enough to put the left’s folly in crystal clear terms and we have one for you today.

    The current crop of militant atheists have been parading about the country wailing about how the evil, evil Christians are oppressing them by having non-sectarian things like “In God We Trust” on our money or allowing a manger scene on city property. That’s some oppression, there, eh?

    Well, last weekend a photo was snapped that shows exactly what militant atheists really mean behind their rhetoric. Oh, they aren’t against religion. They don’t likely think they are being oppressed, either. No their real goal is rather simple. They are enemies of Christianity exclusively.

    Today’s militant atheists aren’t looking for “equality” or “fair treatment.” They only want one thing: the destruction of Christianity. The total elimination of it in public…

    …Ah, but what is the main difference here? Isn’t it obvious? Islam is the PC favored ideology, the one the far left has invested its energies into protecting and militant atheists have joined the left’s gambit in the hopes that Christianity can be further undermined. Because, after all, militant atheists have only one enemy: Christianity..

    How true…

    http://www.publiusforum.com/2011/03/09/atheists-for-islam-happy-to-support-religion/

  21. Hippies were right. I’m telling you, maaan. Pretty good. 😎
    Today I’m Benny Hinn, eh? I thought that was more Zen like.

  22. “Any semblance of Christianity hypocrisy sends you into revulsion”

    And religious folks are some of the biggest hypocrites around.

    “I know far more Christians than you ever will, and have never heard so much as one complaint about Romney’s “religion.”

    So what? None of that changes the FACT that Romney had to give a primer on Mormonism so that (i suppose I should add “some”) Christians would accept him as one.

    “You form your opinions from what you hear second hand”

    So I guess that means you have actually seen Noah’s ark that you claim to believe existed?

    “it’s just your opinion, and one that is not based on much fact.”

    It’s not my opinion that Romney had to teach people about Mormonism so they would accept him as a Christian. That’s a fact.

    It’s not my opinion that Obama had to go pray at the Wailing Wall to show he was a supporter of Israel. That’s a fact.

    We’ve got references to God on our money. We’ve got references to God in our courts. We have references to God in our government building. Those are facts

    Does the President get sworn in with his right hand on the Constitution, as if that is our most sacred document? No. He gets sworn in with his hand on a bible. That’s a fact.

    Does any of that bother me?…not at all. What does bother me is when people try and sell this bullshit that the United States is not a borderline theocracy.

    “Men like you that wish to remove any semblance of faith from the public square”

    You couldn’t be more mistaken. As I said, its not religion I have an aversion to…its bullshit. That a lot of it comes from religious sources is just coincidence. And I was that way looooooong before I ever stepped foot into a university classroom.

    “So no matter how much I enjoy your political commentary, I never forget in reality you are my enemy.”

    And that is precisely the kind of hypocrisy I am talking about. I am your enemy simply because I don’t believe in your god.

    See you in the next thread, my friend….

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