Bush in 2012, Really (and a Sip of Tea)

Bush in 2012, Really

Rich Lowry’s penis has finally stopped making his decisions for him and he seems to have gotten off the Sarah Palin train. In a recent article in National Review Online, Rich offers eight reasons why Jeb Bush should run for President in 2012. I’ll paraphrase Rich’s points from a liberal perspective:

1. Nobody else worth a damn is running or as Rich puts it, it’s a wide open field.

2. By 2016, Jeb’s resume will be stale.

3. By 2016 the current crop of newbies (Christie, Rubio, etc.) will be seasoned enough to jump into the ring.

4. Brother George is enjoying a perverse sort of nostalgia right now.

5. Regardless of George’s stink, Jeb will still be a Bush in 2016 so he might as well jump now.

6. He’s not like Dad or Brother — see my additional reason #9 below!

7. Jeb might be a GOP uniter. This is where Rich throws Sarah under the bus (cue the moose death groan) saying she is too polarizing and implying that Romney is too bland.

8. Better to run too soon than too late. Of course this fails Rich’s own internal logic from reason #3. If it’s better to run too soon, why is he not advocating for Christie or Rubio now?

And now my two extra reasons for Bush in 2012:

9. Jeb was the smart one. From everything I’ve seen, read and heard, it was Jeb who should have sought the nomination back in 2000, not his dumb-ass brother. Jeb lacks George’s swagger and seems to have replaced it with some real intellect. If I’m not mistaken, he also speaks fluent Spanish.

10. It’s enough to give Presidential historians an orgasm. I’m a bit rusty now but I used to be a Presidential history buff. Jeb, if he won, would add another great first to the annals of Pres history. We have John Adams and his son John Quincy (so George 43 broke no records there), we had William Henry Harrison and his grandson Benjamin and of course we had Teddy Roosevelt and his cousin Franklin. Jeb taking the oath in 2013 would give us the first case of a President (George Herbert Walker) having TWO sons in the White House.

Honestly, I’d like to see a worthy adversary go against Barack in 2012 for one simple reason. I don’t trust this country not to throw Obama out for a knucklehead so if Obama has to lose to someone (and I don’t think that is a foregone conclusion), I’d like it to be someone I could minimally respect. And speaking of respect …

A Tasty Sip of Tea

Well ever since they took the oath in January in the 112th Congress, we’ve been waiting to see what those racist fear mongering Teabaggers would do and I’m shocked to say this but I actually respect their very first major move. So much so, I shall officially retire the term “teabagger” from my vocabulary. Yesterday, Tea Party caucus members were key players in not extending three provisions of the Patriot Act including warrantless wire tapping.

Who would have thought this early in the game that Tea Party members and liberals would be on the same page regarding civil liberties and government over reach? Heck, if not being able to spell and totally misunderstanding the Constitution gets these great results I may have to completely reevaluate my Tea Party stand. I think I’ve got enough bags left in my Red Rose box in the cupboard to start working on my hat. Oh and I’ll have to buy a gun. This sounds like the start of a great relationship.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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290 thoughts on “Bush in 2012, Really (and a Sip of Tea)

  1. Jeb Bush may be the smarter brother, but that whole family has done more harm than good for this nation. I would like to see them just fade from view. Of course W is experiencing less and less freedom as to where he can and cannot travel. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if he did get arrested and charged with the war crimes he was a part of? I’m not holding my breath, however.

    Yeah, right. I could just see you with the tea bags hanging from your hat… NOT! I agree with the kudos for them not extending the provisions of the Patriot Act, but see it as more libertarian than liberal. Just sayin…

  2. Jeb Bush – hahahahahahah

    Teabaggers—– no- that’s GOP -teabaggers

    And you forgot all that anti health anti woman anti stimulus stuff they are pushing. And pretty much everyone except the the richest 0.1% (we either seem to have a lot of those on this blog – or a lot of fools.

  3. Honestly, I’d like to see a worthy weak adversary go against Barack in 2012 for one simple reason. So he might win.

    FIFY.

    ———

    Look what you’re left with Rutherford. Two utter morons…

    One who believes in Simpson cartoon conspiracies, still thinks the inept U.S. government is responsible for 9/11, and sends his daughters and probably his wife to the abortion mill sometimes known as Planned Parenthood for the freebies carrying the King James; the other, a brain dead teabaggee who lies about his education credentials, can’t spell COCK without a spell checker, and prefers the taste of sweaty foreign balls dipped his big mouth full of rotted teeth.

    So, let’s cut to the chase. You want to make one of your always wrong predictions and bet the witchdoctor Obama doesn’t win in 2012?

    You feeble, ignorant failures were going on and on two years ago about GITMO, the wrong war, carrying on dialogue with the Muzzies would restore our good reputation, the economy, blah blah blah. And what do we find out two years later about your grandiose promises given in front of the Styrofoam Greek Temple columns?

    😈 The Bush Doctrine x 2, GITMO still open and flying high, our debt 35% higher and 3MM lost jobs with no end in sight, 69 lost Congressional seats, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pointing fingers at the Witchdoctor and laughing at him. 😈

    And you want to start your pejorative braggadocio all over again? You fools don’t even have the sense to keep your mouths shut after showing your asses to the world.

    This will be another of the infamous posts I’ll be shoving up your hole in about 24 months. Keep ‘um coming. 😉

  4. Tex, actually I claimed it was Mossad that did the deed. This is likely how it happened. Netanyahu stated how beneficial it was for Israel. Somehow you think these guys are on our side. I have yet to see any Muslims benefitting from 9/11. But then you wouldn’t know the devil if he bit you on the ass. So just keep spewing your vitriolic prose. Time and truth is on my side. 😎

  5. Yeah, the Jews attacked us on 9-11.

    You are disgusting.

    It really does bug me that Rutherford doesn’t aggressively and passionately tell you you’re full of shit.

    He has no problem waging war against us over the slightest disagreement over the economy.

    But, you’re only deemed “quirky”.

  6. Well Dog, yes and no. The Tea Party is either being co-opted by the GOP or the GOP is being co-opted by the Tea Party but you really can’t separate them. Poolman makes a good point that it’s the Tea Party libertarian streak that makes them occasionally intersect with liberal values.

    However, Dog, I do agree with you that Congress is off to a very bad start overall, abandoning their supposed fiscal concerns for social legislation (i.e. forcible rape, refusing abortion to dying mothers, etc.). I’m not sure you can lay all that stuff at the feet of the Tea Party however.

  7. Poolman, I’m hearing that W had to cancel a trip to Switzerland for fear of being arrested. Wild stuff.

    Tex … you have undone yourself with your own comment. You basically said (and I agree to some degree) that Obama doubled down on Bush. You know what that means? That means you can forever shut your trap about what a radical Marxist, leftist Obama is.

    As I’ve said before you guys would crap your pants if Obama really went left. He never did. He should have done Medicare for all. He wimped out and got bought out by the doctor/pharma lobby.

  8. It really does bug me that Rutherford doesn’t aggressively and passionately tell you you’re full of shit.

    Rabbit, I view Poolman as a dude open to just about everything. He drinks in every bit of info he can find from the sensible to the outlandish. It almost has a childlike innocence to it. I’ve read enough of his comments to believe there is no malice there. He just thinks we’re being lied to. The question is has he found the truth? In many cases, I have my doubts (like Jews implicit in 9/11) but he’s searching. Sometimes he reports from the field, sometimes he reports from the Twilight Zone.

  9. Oh, you have your “doubts” that the Jews attacked us on 9-11, do you?

    Ha.

    No malice?

    Oh I get it. It’s “child like” when dumb fuck loons from the left spout off.

    By the way, I will give Poolman credit. He keeps his conspiracies fresh. Last month it was elements within the American government who attacked us. Now its the Jews.

  10. Closing Gitmo was passionate blog material back when Obama gave his word that he would moth ball it.

    Rutherford would get real hot over that terrible place. It was a big, big deal.

    Funny how certain “issues” dissipate like mid-summer morning fog over a lake.

    If anyone ever sees the Rabbit whore himself for another man, please call me out.

    I might serve up some bull shit. Probably have contradicted myself before. But, I’ve never zipped another man’s pants down so that he can piss on me.

    Rutherford laps that piss up. You’ve been had, brother.

  11. Ha. Congress has foregone its fiscal concerns. I would say defunding Witchdoctor Care is off to a pretty good start.

    Tell me psychophant par excellence Rutherford. What is Obama’s greatest accomplishment as President, assuming WitchdoctorCare is ruled null and void by the SCOTUS?

    Not much, hey? 😐

    No, my point is not conflicted in the least. Very simple – your Epic Failure as President is not only a liar and hypocrite being he has doubled down on Bush policy contrary to his boasts, but you also forget weakness is a provocation. And there is nobody in weaker global standing than Obama. Osama finds Obama a useful idiot. Remember, the only difference between Osama and Obama is a little b.s.

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    I have yet to see any Muslims benefitting from 9/11. But then you wouldn’t know the devil if he bit you on the ass.

    I’ve yet to see this mass of moderate Muslims you keep jabbering about Al-Poolman. Like Sasquatch, hey? You hear a shit load about them, but never witness any real proof.

  12. I’ve read enough of his comments to believe there is no malice there.

    Good grief. The Jooo hater just said the Mossad created 9/11, and you don’t find that malicious. You’re either the most naive man in the world, or malicious yourself.

    Anybody that excuses that kind of shit is an accessory to it.

    Who knew we had Neville Chamberlain in the house….

  13. Last month it was elements within the American government who attacked us. Now its the Jews.

    Zionists, Rabbit. And yes they are rife within our government. I provided plenty of links. Even showed dual citizenship held by plenty in our government. But you’re probably okay with that. You probably think Jason Pollard a hero, too.

  14. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if he did get arrested and charged with the war crimes he was a part of? I’m not holding my breath, however

    What’s going to be a bigger hoot is when you meet Jesus and find out just how perverted you really are…time will definitely not be on your side Satan.

    Speaking of Al-Poolman, I found this comment at that website you’ve directed us to. Sounds like you sister.

    I believe that most of the so-called ‘suicide’ bombings and other bombings attributed to the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Pakistan, etc, etc., are actually terrorist attacks by Americans and their allies.

    How did I come to this conclusion? Most attacks are against indigenous people, in public gatherings, where people go shopping or attend religious services. A depressed person who hates what the enemy is doing to his people, will not be part of a suicide bombing to attack his own people. I am amazed that mainstream media has never questioned these events?

    Also, take Iraq for an example. Why weren’t there ‘suicide’ attacks happening during Saddam’s administration? Wasn’t he hated and feared by the general populace? Why did the bombings against civilians in public gatherings start after the US invasion?

    The US needs war in order to dominate the entire globe and steal resources, so they employ special forces and mercenaries to carry out these atrocities. Acts of terrorism follow wherever they go. They perpetuate these wars by blaming other groups.

    The US truly acts as ‘the wild beast that stomps all over the earth and crushes everything in its path’ (book of Daniel in the Bible). May God end this evil soon.

    So Rutherford, what will it take to convince you not only is Al-Poolman a loon, but an American hating loon who deserves to be hanged? 😎

  15. I’ve yet to see this mass of moderate Muslims you keep jabbering about Al-Poolman.

    Tex, how about letting a Jew explain the Qur’an to you?

  16. Al-Poolman,

    You think finding these self-loathing Jew hating kooks is going to change my mind on things I can both read and decide for myself. My eyes don’t lie – I can see very clearly the results of Islam.

    If I want to read self-loathing, American hating secular Jews, I can tune on MSNBC or read the NY Slimes.

    While there indeed might be moderate Muslims, there is no moderate Islam. Anybody but a Jooo hating goon like you realizes as much.

    P.S. – Wasn’t your hero President Barack El-Obama bowing to these guys as recently as last year? Oops…

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/

  17. I found this comment at that website you’ve directed us to. Sounds like you sister.

    I understand yellowdog lives in Oklahoma, too.

    Tex T a yl or , a man of on the cloth rag.

  18. Tex, the problem with America is that like the human condition itself, we are far from perfect. We have conflicted motives that cast doubt on our foreign policies. Do we believe in freedom or do we believe in access to oil? That’s probably our biggest Achilles heel. As long as we lust for foreign oil, our motives can never be pure and this in turn provides fodder for crazy radicals like Osama bin Laden.

    Our place in the world is complicated to say the least. We are not the bad guy but we don’t always act like the good guy either.

  19. A focus group in Iowa had a substantial number of folks who believe Obama is a Muslim. Why doesn’t it scare the crap out of you guys that these people are allowed to vote?

  20. Why doesn’t it scare the crap out of you guys that these people are allowed to vote?

    Because they offset the Jooo hating, American-hating Al-Poolman and Yeller Runt’s of the country.

    Consider it a trade off. 🙂

    The mistake Barack El-Obama’s Rev. Wright’s version of Christianity for Islam. Basically one and the same, but I recognize it as El-Obama is nothing. He thinks he is god, therefore he is what he needs to be at that particular moment.

  21. Exposure that led to recruiting and eventual franchising.

    So they are increasing and living a life of luxury, eh? Profitting from that famous and masterful deed hand over fist. There are so many members we can’t even seem to find them.

    I guess when Hillary Clinton claimed we were the ones that created them she must have been mistaking them for some other terror club we established. Have some more kool aid. Plenty to go around.

  22. Dog, the Politico story actually tells two stories. Yes, it tells the story of Congressmen who are finding out just how tough the insurance market is … BUT it is also telling the story of a handful of lawmakers who are putting their money where their mouth is. Let’s be honest … if these guys signed onto the Fed health care plan, we’d be calling them hypocrites.

  23. Poolman, I don’t think Huck is referring to material gain. He is talking about political relevance and influence. I suspect al Qaeda itself is on the decline but there is no shortage of radical groups ready to take its place.

    What is interesting and surprising to me (primarily because foreign affairs is not my specialty) is the rising threat of violent Islam in Russia. If I’m not mistaken, a radical Islam group has claimed “credit” for the recent Moscow airport bombing.

  24. Rutherford, if it happens in Russia, it is usually Chechen rebels they say. Those are radical Islamists.

    The funny thing about Huck’s statement is that our invasion and occupation has done more to recruit radicals than the event of 9/11. Most people in Muslim countries never heard of 9/11. You would think if that was to be a rallying event, they would have better spread the news.

    Within minutes the media placed the blame for the event on OBL. OBL denied it and essentially claimed we have a government working within our government. Quite prophetic actually, but then he would have known it after his dealings with us over the years. OBL was known as a highly religious man who followed the Qur’an as best he knew how. He was okay attacking military strongholds and killing military personel but not civilians, women, or children. He claimed it was against the prophet’s teachings.

    Zionists have actually benefitted the very most from the event. That was even stated publically by Netanyahu. Many have greatly increased their own wealth and the nation of Israel has gained hold strategically in the region. It seems to all be going according to plan. Of course, the recent Egyptian uprising wasn’t figured into the mix. But it looks like Mubarak will end up with a nice condo in Tel Aviv, afterall. Sometimes early retirement pays off.

  25. ” Let’s be honest … if these guys signed onto the Fed health care plan, we’d be calling them hypocrites.”

    You can’t win if your an idiot.

  26. The regressives never learn. Look back at the countries they were all about nuking becasue of the fear of the red menace.
    Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, China, N Korea. Did we “save” any???
    No in fact we helped the communists keep in power.
    Castro and Ho Chi Min were not communists – but they were driven there by the US. Chiang in China was a crook. Korea came into play because of a US error in in defining the iron curtain….
    The regressives have gotten no smarter since.

  27. “So they are increasing and living a life of luxury, eh? ”

    I am fairly confident that is not what I said. Don’t mistake the word “franchising for meaning they are opening up Starbucks and McDonalds.

    As I have expleined and you have ignored in the past, al Qaeda is just as much an ideology as it is an organization. It lends its name and ideas to any like-minded group who wants to take them. That is why we hear about so many al Qaeda “affiliates” worldwide.

    That is the kind of franchising al Qaeda is able to do because of the exposure it got from 9/11.

    It also got lots of new members in the core organization.

    All these are classified as human resources. Members, supporters and sympathizers. And 9/11 helped AQ gain many of each.

    “The funny thing about Huck’s statement is that our invasion and occupation has done more to recruit radicals than the event of 9/11.”

    And the funny thing about this statement is that it doesn’t have a fucking thing to do with what we were talking about. We were talking about how AQ benefited from 9/11.

    You remind me of my MA professors trying to brainwash me. When I call them out in class they are forced to resort to this same kind of dodgeball–changing the subject or qualifying their remarks.

    “Most people in Muslim countries never heard of 9/11.”

    You are aware that Afghanistan is not the only Muslim country on earth, right? Would you care to back up that statement as it applies to all of the others?

  28. Irregardless of who did the 9/11 deed – count Dubby as the major co-conspirator. He destroyed US democracy beyond thier wildest dream.

  29. “He destroyed US democracy beyond thier wildest dream.”

    You’re right.

    That is why we elected a liberal black democrat as the President of the United States…because George W. Bush destroyed our democracy…

  30. Illegal wire tapping, illegal incarceration, torture, domestic spying, perversion of nearly every government agency, illegal wars…..but that Dubby was an alright guy – BARF.

  31. YOu are a complete fucking moron…

    LOL G, since this is your first contribution to this thread I have to ask for clarification. Was that a reaction to my article or to Poolman or Dog or someone else? 🙂

  32. This should interest Dog:

    During testimony in Congress today, James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence referred to the Muslim Brotherhood as “largely secular”.

    When former NSC Director for Middle East Affairs, Michael Singh was asked about this, he responded that the MB within Egypt, is populated by laymen (vs clergy) but that does not make it secular per se. When NBC correspondent Richard Engle heard Clapper’s statement he almost lost his lunch. He basically said to Andrea Mitchell WTF???? The MB is not secular and if the Director of National Intelligence is saying otherwise, he is badly misleading Congress. Personally, I respect Engle … he’s an adrenaline junkie who reports from the eye of the hurricane. I think he knows what he’s talking about.

    I thought that exchange would be of interest to all of us who have been debating this in the past couple of days. Take from it what you will.

  33. Rutherford, 🙄

    I know you hunger for support here as you’re totally out manned with respect to numbered commentary,but you’ve really sunk to the bottom of the barrel, I don’t care your politics, if you’re corresponding in a serious matter with the profoundly stupid Yellow Dawg.

    Your blog, your choice. But I find it the height of duplicity that you condemn Elric but treat that asshole Yeller runs with respect just because he’s a fellow Bush basher. Surely you’re better than this…

  34. Interesting story my mother just told me.

    In April, she had a colonoscopy – Mom is on Medicare with supplemental insurance to cover the rest.

    She thought the issue was done. Today she received notice.

    The doctor billed Medicare for $700.00 for the procedure. Medicare paid $21.00; the supplemental paid $43.00 in addition.

    How long do you you Liberals/Progressives/Jooo Haters think doctors are going to continue to accept Medicare when they perform a procedure and bill for $700.00, and receive $63.00 for full payment in return?

    You want government to handle health care and a single-payer system? You people are idiots.

  35. …and once again Miss Fragenbutt – lacking any knowledge of the subject thinks correcting grammar and spelling will win the arguement.

  36. correcting grammar and spelling will win the arguement

    There’s no such word as arguement. You meant argument.

    Take a hike fool.

  37. Interesting tidbit with the Medicare payment, Tex. The medical situation in this country is just totally fucked. I have been without health insurance for so long now, it just seems normal. I don’t know if I would opt for it even if I could afford it again. It was always a losing proposition and I would have been better off saving the premiums and sticking them in a savings for medical purposes.

    The last time I needed any medical care we paid cash. You know if you pay cash they discount it 75 percent. If you gripe about how much that is, they generally reduce it even more, just to get paid and not have to deal with the hassle of collections. They even let you pay it out, generally with no interest. Typically the insurance companies play a paper chase with these doctors and hospitals and end up paying out 10 to 20 percent. It is such a scam. I feel for the docs who just want to take care of people and don’t care for the politics of it.

    It isn’t just the medical field. We have complicated everything we do with procedures that have nothing to do with our fields of endeavor. I think I’ll go back to just painting canvases again. It sure is much more therapeutic. Now, if I can only make a living of it…

  38. That no. 48 may be the brightest, truest post I’ve seen you make Poolman.

    I know a few doctors that are so fed up with the hassles, they are taking cash only.

    If you can feed yourself and keep a roof over your head, nothing wrong with doing something you like and keeping the stress to a minimum.

    I’d rather be poor and alive. 🙂

  39. The Muslim Brotherhood as a secular organization sounds quite ridiculous off hand. But we have organizations, like the YMCA for example, that are far from Christian in nature – even though “Christian” is a part of the name.

    I don’t know much about the MB, granted, but in America just because it may be named one way, doesn’t mean the function is necessarily representative of the name. If you read the stated goals of the MB, it certainly claims the Islamic religion is the guide for legal statutes. However, like the Judaic and Christian faiths, the interpretation and implementation has always been a point of dispute. It is never cut and dry.

    That is why I think our founders were wise to try to keep religion out of governance. Of course we keep having to refight that same battle in each arena and with each generation.

  40. One of the things I’m hearing is that the MB is not monolithic and that the Egyptian “version” of it is quite peaceful. I think I heard they run some hospitals in Egypt.

    I also heard an interesting factoid about Hezbollah … that they are also a split personality group, one half dedicated to humanitarian efforts and the other half a terrorist organization.

    You couldn’t pay me enough to be a diplomat. Everything is too damn complicated!

  41. I think I heard they run some hospitals in Egypt.

    None of them are secular. It’s a ruse and a propaganda selling point, much along the same lines as Mussolini made the trains run on time. Remember, for a period, Hitler pushed German industry to the forefront, after a period of long depression and misery before he pushed them to the brink of extinction.

    James Clapper should be flushed down the Crapper – what a disgrace. If some knucklehead had made that kind of statement about Muslim Brotherhood “secularism” in the Bush Admin. we would never hear the end of it. It shows how difficult intelligence really is when even Leon Panetta gets it wrong about Mubarak on the same day. It’s the game the Muslim world plays.

    The Muslim world is nothing if unpredictable. It’s been my experience whatever the worst choice is, the chances good that is the one Muslims will choose – the Palestinians having the opportunity at having their own state being only the most visible one. I’m not being critical or facetious – that’s the historical record. Don’t listen to what Muslims say – watch what they do.

    It’s going to come down to who the military decides to support – Mubarak or the people. I personally don’t have a clue to how much support or sway Mubarak has with the military. And I’m not sure anyone else does either except those closest to the situation.

  42. I also heard an interesting factoid about Hezbollah … that they are also a split personality group, one half dedicated to humanitarian efforts and the other half a terrorist organization.

    Exactly – much of Hezbollah work is humanitarian. Given the Israeli abuse in Gaza – they left the door wide open to others. that stuff wins elections. Wonder if the GOP will ever learn that? NAH.

    and one man’s terrorist is anothers patriot. Geo Washington was a terrorist – to the Brits.

  43. Gaza? Hezbollah? You guys talking about Hamas?

    Of course these groups do humanitarian stuff. They aspire to govern, or, in some cases do govern.

    The mafia takes care of the neighborhood.

    The biker gangs do toys for tots.

    What’s your point?

  44. I can’t believe ” the MB is secular” conversation continues.

    This would be laughable if it wasn’t so serious.

    Oh man, we’re all screwed.

  45. Israeli abuse in the Gaza… 😆 Sheer, liberal Jooo hating propaganda from the stupidest political hack on the net. How many countries deliver aid to people who have declared themselves sworn enemies of the delivering state?

    The facts put these charges to rest – just take a look at how much aid Israel regularly delivers to Gaza, and what it means in real terms for Gazans:

    * Over one million tons of humanitarian supplies were delivered by Israel to the people of Gaza in the past 18 months – that’s equal to nearly one ton of aid for every man, woman and child in Gaza.

    * In the first quarter of 2010 alone (January-March), Israel delivered 94,500 tons of supplies to Gaza. It’s very easy to miss what that actually means for the people of Gaza. The breakdown includes:
    o 40,000 tons of wheat – which is equal to 53 million loaves of bread;
    o 2,760 tons of rice – which equals 69 million servings;
    o 1,987 tons of clothes and footwear – the equivalent weight of 3.6 million pairs of jeans; and
    o 553 tons of milk powder and baby food – equivalent to over 3.1 million days of formula for an average six-month-old baby.

    * This reflects a long-term effort on the part of Israel to deliver a massive and comprehensive supply of aid to Gaza’s civilians, while restricting the ability of Hamas to import missiles that have been launched at the cities of southern Israel. In 2009 alone:
    o During the Muslim holy days of Ramadan and Eid al-Adha, Israel shipped some 11,000 head of cattle into Gaza – enough to provide 8.8 million meals of beef;
    o More than 3,000 tons of hypochlorite were delivered by Israel to Gaza for water purification purposes – that’s 60 billion gallons of purified water; and
    o Israel brought some 4,883 tons of medical equipment and medicine into Gaza – a weight equivalent to over 360,000 260-piece mobile trauma first aid kits.

    http://www.cicweb.ca/scene/2010/06/israel_aid_to_gaza/

    Israel is not sinless. But you people like Dawg are so twisted and evil, you can’t even identify evil. Israel the bad guys yellow cowards like Dawg want you to believe? Baloney.

  46. I’m shocked by the utter ignorance on how the world works at its most basic level.

    I’m not the most educated myself, but, sometimes it only takes a basic knowledge of how the street works.

    Rutherford, your innocence cracks me up.

    Dude, you are a goof ball.

  47. Rabbit,

    Old Rutherford is innocent, isn’t he. Sometimes, I feel like I’m debating with the smartest kid in the class – but still a kid.

    It’s like “R” lived in a bubble between 22-40.

  48. Poolman, let me tell you wonderful these Palestinians are. While this is a Jewish source, I dare you to prove this wrong as it was financed by Liberal American and American gov’t sponsored sources…

    Palestinian militants ransack former Gush Katif greenhouses

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/palestinian-militants-ransack-former-gush-katif-greenhouses-1.179788

    Animals. That is what you side with…from jihadists and Hezbollah to car swarms.

    There’s no sense arguing about it anymore with you Poolman. I find you a rank propagandist and Jooo hater. You find me an Israeli apologist. Only one of can be right.

    It is my opinion, in the last days it will be better that you had never been born. And that actually saddens me to a degree as I don’ t find you necessarily a bad sort – but woefully confused and incapable of critical thinking.

  49. “Illegal wire tapping, illegal incarceration, torture, domestic spying, perversion of nearly every government agency, illegal wars…..but that Dubby was an alright guy – BARF.”

    Oh. You mean all that stuff that Obama wants to keep.

    Also, that stuff does not have anything to do with the concept of democracy. If you wanted to argue that Bush destroyed our constitution, then you would bring up that stuff.

    Also…how about that Mubarak, dog? Just so you know…saying “any day now” every single day won’t make you right when it finally happens. I told you more than a week ago he wasn’t going to quit. At what point do you concede that some people around here actually know WTF they are talking about?

  50. Tex, all Palestinians are not alike.

    Do you want to be judged based on someone’s perceptions of Poolman? After all, you’re both Americans. So that means you’re both the same…right?

    Wrong.

  51. Out of sheer boredom, I occasionally frequent Fake’s blog, but never comment. Sometimes it is entertaining, more often putrid. It started putrid, as each of the member was listing their sterling credentials and GPAs. Each one, topping the other.

    I’ll save my buddies from having to read the fluff unless interested, but Graychin has polluted another blog, Every place the man goes, war follows. Give the man his due.

    Fake’s in love with Graychin, mainly because he strokes her, and you will be glad to know we’ve knighted Graychin here, now that he is gone. 😆 I don’t insult Graychin one time (I think I referred to the old fart as “at least he wasn’t stupid” :lol:) and now Graychin has been toasted with Sainthood according to our resident scold Ms. Fake. Unbelievable.

    Then, some guy pulls Graychin’s chain and Graychin’s adversary’s comments start getting deleted. Typical.

    Gawd, most liberals are lame.

    P.S. Fake – one thing you really need to understand. It is not reviling or ridiculing someone when you don’t agree with the. Jim Dougan understood this – you don’t. I can only speak for myself, but I liked Jim and hardly agreed with one opinion. But he was likable, and that’s a trait you don’t hold.

    Just because we all don’t acquiesce to you Fake, or have the gall to disagree with you, doesn’t necessarily construe hate or disdain. It’s your preaching, scolding, hand wringing, pedantic nature that makes many of us disdain you.

    You have an incredibly overrated opinion of your own sophistication honey. I don’t care what your GPA was, or what your academic credentials were, you’re not terribly adept. And anybody that couldn’t pass your parking lot “math” test is a borderline moron. They didn’t graduate from my state university (those little lessers).

  52. Well Tex,

    I must say you are definitely in the majority with your opinion and view regarding Israel, if that is comforting to you. I am certain that Palestinians cause destruction and continue to decide being a martyr for their cause is noble. I don’t have any first hand experience on the ground there. I have quite a few FB friends that support the Palestinians as well as a number that support the Zionists. A lot of the Palestinian leaders have historically betrayed their people, too. But I cannot agree that they are less than human. We are all products of our environment to a great extent. Israel definitely has the greater military might and wealth to push their agenda.

    As far as “the last days” and being better that I “had never been born,” well, I have no control over that. All I know is God wanted me to be exactly where I am and when. I only tread where He tells me. I am a coin in His pocket to spend how He wishes. I just need to keep listening and trusting.

  53. Huck,

    Tex, all Palestinians are not alike.

    Do you want to be judged based on someone’s perceptions of Poolman? After all, you’re both Americans. So that means you’re both the same…right?

    I don’t believe I’ve ever made that claim of absolutes, unless your now going to require percentages and breakdowns in each post? If so, can you direct me to the comment? You’re the one always requiring proof. Well, here’s your chance to shine Huck.

    However, this is the pattern of behavior. I might give you partial benefit of doubt in your charges and a tip of the cap, except let’s not forget that the Palestinians themselves did elect a terrorist organization as its representative government.

    Would it not be fair to judge America accordingly if a majority of our citizens had nominated Timothy McVeigh to be President?

  54. All I know is God wanted me to be exactly where I am and when. I only tread where He tells me. I am a coin in His pocket to spend how He wishes.

    So God is some cosmic rapist that moves all of us like a chessboard? I think you need to rethink that statement Poolman and give some thought to free will and grace while doing so. That really minimizes the grace of God when you make statements like that.

    Quite the contrary, I have been taught on good authority that God has put me in control of all of my faculties, and I have complete control to direct my life accordingly for a short time. God grants me that right for both good and for evil. Without discernment and choice, there can be no real love.

    This is along the same lines many Christians make in error when they make statements like “God put his protective hand over me” while others die. Does that mean God loves some and not others? I don’t think so…

  55. It’s like “R” lived in a bubble between 22-40.

    Not too far from the truth. 😐

    Rabbit, the only reason I brought up “secular MB” was that I had no idea where Dog might get such a loony idea so I did a double take this afternoon when I heard the Director of National Intelligence say the same thing Dog said. But be clear (maybe you need to read my comment again): he was roundly criticized by everyone — the FBI guy who testified after him, the former NSC guy interviewed by Andrea Mitchell and by Richard Engel reporting from Cairo. The bottom line was that even if the MB in Egypt is primarily composed of lay people vs clergy, it is still NOT a secular organization.

  56. So I know I am going to regret this, but I am going to sort of come to the dog’s defense, here.

    Remember when we thought he was just completely off his rocker to suggest that the Muslim Brotherhood was a secular organization?

    Well, it turns out…dog isn’t crazy. He’s just a stupid parrot echoing the stupid shit he hears other stupid people say.

    Unfortunately for us, the dumb-ass he is parroting is the director of our national intelligence.

    We’re in serious trouble…..

  57. Would it not be fair to judge America accordingly if a majority of our citizens had nominated Timothy McVeigh Sarah Palin to be President?

    I corrected it for you. 😀 I just couldn’t resist.

  58. Geo Washington was a terrorist – to the Brits.

    Sometimes you are just too astonishingly stupid to be believed.

    While the lobsters had no love for the good general, they DID NOT regard him as a terrorist. They DID regard him as a rebel and a traitor, but those things are only equated with terrorist in DailyKLOTZ and DummieUndergroundland. You need to lay off the stupid before it destroys your brain entirely.

  59. Tex,

    God is your co-pilot, right? With me He is the pilot.

    That is the difference between living for Christ or merely claiming to believe in Him. “Take up your cross… (Matthew 10:38, 16:24, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23)

    I seek His will daily. I am learning to hear His voice (John 10:3). Free will lets me choose my path or His. Do I chase the flesh or submit to His authority? He tells me to die to myself daily. (Matthew 10:39 and 16:25, Mark 8:35, Romans chapter 8 especially vs 13,14, Galatians 5:18, James 4:7)

    The life I live is by the Spirit. (1 John 2:27) That means I don’t get to do what I want. But the great thing is He knows what I like and what is best for me and at the end of the day, I can be certain I did everything to honor Him. I am designed for a specific purpose. I am unique. I don’t know the fullness of that yet. Quite a journey I am on, though.

    Oh, and He does extend grace to me. Very much so. It is a radical lifestyle, believe me. I would not change it for anything this earth has to offer. The relationship is what it is all about. It is something I would die for.

    Not all are chosen to be sons of God. Jesus said, “My sheep hear My voice.”

  60. This is a well documented page that should cause some concern that maybe, just maybe, we haven’t been given a full accounting of what went down on that day that changed all of our lives. FOIA will give us more info in another 10 years or so. I just got to keep trying to help folks see. I can’t help it. It is not for any personal gain. Lord knows it hasn’t benefitted my reputation at all. Let the chips fall where they may…

  61. God is your co-pilot, right? With me He is the pilot.

    God is not my pilot. He’s my plane. I steer my will where I choose to go. He provides the mechanism to get there. The choice is mine to pilot as I wish.

    I can be certain I did everything to honor Him.

    You honor God by persecuting his people? You claim to live for Christ Poolman, yet you persecute Jews? You give no benefit of doubt, never admit the unfairness and irrationality of persecution, seem to have class envy, and link to the vilest of propaganda always casting Israel in dim light?

    The Bible warned that conflict would always characterize the relations between the descendants of Isaac and Ishmael.

    And you’ve chosen Ishmael Poolman.

  62. Ishmael represented the flesh/slave/carnal. Isaac represented the faith/spirit/eternal. But it was through his seed that all would be blessed. That seed was Christ.

    If you remember your Bible, who did Jesus have the most issues with?

  63. If you remember your Bible, who did Jesus have the most issues with?

    Did you not hold your own daughters to a higher standard than you do a girl on the streets, Poolman? Your comparison is a logical fallacy of the first order and a specious question.

    You yourself admit Isaac respresents the eternal. So why do you side with the carnal?

  64. Poolman wishes us to be convinced that the U.S. government, in conjunction with the Mossad assisted in 9/11 tragedy, and then was able unbelievably to cover it up by making it appear that Al-Qaida responsible.

    Did I understand that right, Poolman?

    Well Poolman, if our government so capacious, can you explain this to me then?

    http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/obama-intelligence-official-prepared-for-congressional-testimony-on-egypt-by-watching-cnn/

    We’re in the best of hands fellow Americans – and pray for your children we survive the next two years.. 🙄

  65. LOL G, since this is your first contribution to this thread I have to ask for clarification. Was that a reaction to my article or to Poolman or Dog or someone else? ” – R

    The Bitch of course. This idiots ability to generate absolute bullshit is quite frankly without equal.

    I’ve seen some fairly ignorant comments made about hospitals and such, and I’ll just say this, Hezbollah, Hamas, Jaish al-Mahdi, etc, have all used ambulances and hospitals to transport and store weapons. This is very well documented, so before we go on about the travesties of such, I’d ask one question:

    Is it worse to have to address emergency medical facilities as a threat, or to use emergency medical facilities as a threat?

  66. “At what point do you concede that some people around here actually know WTF they are talking about?”

    But that would be telling a lie….

    still supporting fascist dictators huh?

  67. Tex, regarding 78.

    This is what I believe. Mossad has infiltrated every intelligence, government, and terrorist group. Therefore none can be operating wholly on their own. These guys are unmatched in their deception skills and dedication.

    I think Obama doesn’t know who he can really trust. You see a president who is challenged at every angle. I pray for him continually, for I believe he is always in the crosshairs.

  68. Tex, regarding 77,

    Anyone who does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother!” (Matthew 12:50)

    Nationality doesn’t matter. Race doesn’t matter. Genetics doesn’t matter. It is the heart that matters.

  69. awful lot of fairytale quoting going on here – that explains a lot.

    The Flying Spaghetti Monster approves of this message.

  70. Poolman,

    I have often wondered about the segments of hell – maybe Dante was right.

    I’ve reviewed the different levels of Dante’s hell, but never could find the appropriate category where Dawg will reside. There was no 10th circle for the betraying imbecilic.

    Concerning Yellow Dawg…a little history, as he’s offensive enough, even liberals disown him. Only Graychin seemed to tolerate him, and now apparently even he’s abandoned the Dawg.

    You’ve got to remember Dawg is a barking poodle on a leash of is own making. Think of him as a pull string doll. Dawg’s got four or five standard insults: (1) Regressives, (2) Repugs, (3) Rethugs, (4) Reich Wing, (5) and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The last is his favorite, and he used to use it all the time.

    Dawg tells us he’s got a PHD, but I’ve got it on good source, he was a “bottle filler” at an oil company. Probably a burned union thug.

    We’re not talking to Copernicus when we address the Dawg.

  71. I too pray that no one ever pulls the trigger on Obama.

    Mainly, because that would leave us with Joe Biden, perhaps the dumbest of the dumb in all of Congress, a national joke and and disgrace, as President of the United States.

    And right now, Joe is apparently bound and gagged in the basement someplace, waiting out his two years to retirement.

  72. “Wild cheers in Egypt after vice president announces that President Hosni Mubarak has stepped down”

    remind me again what regressives know – tick tock – watching the Faux propaganda channel.

  73. STOP THE HATE! Clearly, this Right Wing incivility must stop before Democrats kill somebody! 😆 Too funny, and still true.

  74. CAIRO — President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt turned over all power to the military, and left the Egyptian capital for his resort home in Sharm el-Sheik, Vice President Omar Suleiman announced on state television on Friday.

    The announcement, delivered during evening prayers in Cairo, set off a frenzy of celebration, with protesters shouting “Egypt is free!”

    The Egyptian military issued a communiqué pledging to carry out a variety of constitutional reforms in a statement notable for its commanding tone. The military’s statement alluded to the delegation of power to Vice President Omar Suleiman and it suggested that the military would supervise implementation of the reforms.

    NYT

    And the regressive fascist lovers are whimpering.

  75. Dawg,

    Are you under the impression that Republicans are rooting for Mubarak to reign, or have sided with Mubarak? 😆

    I didn’t think even you could be that dumb….you never cease to amaze me. I can’ t underestimate your inane ability anymore. 🙂

  76. So it looks like I was wrong that ol’ Hosni was going to last longer than he did.

    With that said, the dog still was not right with his daily “any day now” claim. I can say the big one is going to hit LA “any day now” every day, and when it finally happens that won’t make me right.

    Also, that his appointee is taking over suggests this isn’t as revolutionary as people might like to hope for.

    But I was mistaken. And unlike many around here, I own up to mine.

  77. ‘Regressives support Mubarack
    [I]t’s a sign of health that a political and intellectual movement does not respond to a complicated set of developments with one voice.

    But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He’s marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.

    Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it’s a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.

    It was not so long ago, after all, when conservatives understood that Middle Eastern dictatorships such as Mubarak’s help spawn global terrorism. We needn’t remind our readers that the most famous of the 9/11 hijackers, Mohammed Atta, was an Egyptian, as is al Qaeda’s number two, Ayman al Zawahiri. The idea that democracy produces radical Islam is false: Whether in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, the Palestinian territories, or Egypt, it is the dictatorships that have promoted and abetted Islamic radicalism. (Hamas, lest we forget, established its tyranny in Gaza through nondemocratic means.) Nor is it in any way “realist” to suggest that backing Mubarak during this crisis would promote “stability.” To the contrary: The situation is growing more unstable because of Mubarak’s unwillingness to abdicate. Helping him cling to power now would only pour fuel on the revolutionary fire, and push the Egyptian people in a more anti-American direction.

    Let’s hope that as talk radio hosts find time for reflection, and commentators step back to take a deep breath, they will recall that one of the most hopeful aspects of the current conservative revival is its reclamation of the American constitutionalist tradition. That tradition is anchored even beyond the Constitution, of course, in the Declaration of Independence. And that document, let’s not forget, proclaims that, “Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it.” [Weekly Standard, ”

    http://mediamatters.org/mobile/research/201102050009

  78. Huck,

    There is no need to apologize, as nobody knew what would happen. No one could more anymore predict Mubarak resigning, than could predict what would happen from here on out. For all we know, the military inserts Mubarak back into power next week.

    My prayer would be that Egypt would adopt some form of democratic government and practice peace, but I must admit I am not entirely hopeful. We do live in interesting times; terrifying times if you consider the consequences of nuclear threat.

    The only country in that part of the world short of Israel that most closely resembles real freedom of its people is probably Turkey, and that country would appear to me to be trending more towards militant religiosity; not secularism.

    Let’s hope the Egyptian people prove me wrong…at least this time apparently it was the people who led the overthrow and not the Muslim Brotherhood. I’m just not convinced that a fair election can take place. It just doesn’t appear in the genetic makeup. And perhaps that is because all they’ve ever known is brutal thugs for leadership.

  79. If regressives were actully to apologize for thier stupidity they would have to denounce the whole regressive meme…
    Big Brother would not be happy.

  80. Bottle filler,

    I asked Rutherford this question the other day, and received no answer. Since you’re so “shrewd”, why don’t you take a stab.

    What exactly are Obama’s greatest accomplishments, assuming ObamaCare will soon be overturned and has proven overwhelmingly unpopular.

    And do me a favor for once. Attempt to give this some thought without the assistance of George Soros. We’ll await your responses….I’m sure they will be enlightening to all the ‘regressives’.

  81. Yeah. Now we will see what is what with the Secular Brotherhood, right dog?

    Or should I just start calling you Mr. Director?

  82. That’s right Tex.

    Let’s see if there are any coattail riders of this movement as there was with the Iranian Revolution.

  83. Regressives think mixing government and religion is just fine – GOP-teabaggers interfering in the bedroom again right now.
    But then no level of hypocrisy embarrasses them.
    So Muslims are not allowed to do the same?

  84. “I’m just not convinced that a fair election can take place.”

    Granted, our democracy is a lot stronger than most, or all. But even our own country has issues with fair elections.

    Bags of ballots turning up in trunks of cars. Hanging chads. Exact names on write-in votes. Voter intimidation by armed militants.

    And that doesn’t even begin to touch on the corruption once someone gets elected.

    “It just doesn’t appear in the genetic makeup.”

    Perhaps I am just feeling extra Machiavellian today, but I question if fair play is even in the genetic makeup of any person. We all seek some form of advantage in something.

    Democracy has been practiced in the Middle East by tribes for centuries. So, they do understand the concept.

    The road ahead for Egypt will be challenging. I wish them well.

  85. “Regressives think mixing government and religion is just fine – GOP-teabaggers interfering in the bedroom again right now.
    But then no level of hypocrisy embarrasses them.
    So Muslims are not allowed to do the same?”

    I don’t.

    I don’t want God, Jesus, or Mary telling me what to do any more than I want Allah telling me what to do. I don’t want them in my bedroom telling me how to have sex any more than I want the Fat Ass First Lady in my kitchen telling me what to eat.

    Create an environment where I can prosper and leave me the hell alone to make my way through it as best I can. That is government’s job. Not writing my Kama Sutra or daily menu.

  86. On a personal note, 1 of my professors is going to be gone today and has asked me to teach his course for the day. It’ll be my first. Pretty nervous and excited.

  87. Perhaps I am just feeling extra Machiavellian today, but I question if fair play is even in the genetic makeup of any person.

    I know one. And it’s not me. 😉

    Nonetheless, for all of wickedness of the American heart, I still think we do the Republic better than anybody else and I think the record proves that. As the article above I linked mentioned, we are quickly proving to be our own worst enemy.

    However, I’m surely not naive enough to believe that cheating in American politics hasn’t gone on since the beginning of time. The wickedness of the heart is after all inherently evil straight from the gospel mouth. I believe it.

    Let’s hope you’re right Huck. I more consider the democracy in practice of tribes to be more akin and analogous to the fairness of the YMCA board vote than a national election. When I consider that the military the most stable and possibly the best hope instead of the citizenry, it doesn’t give me the warm fuzzies. I have this bad feeling that his is going to turn out really badly when the applause and the celebration stop and the work starts.

    Having said all that, there’s no doubt Mubarak a dictator and thug. Just because this one happens to be on our side with a nod and a wink and working in our interests, in God’s eyes Mubarak not much different than Saddam. Like the blacks celebrating Obama’s 2008 victory, it is impossible to not feel good for the hopes and aspirations of a people believing they’ve been oppressed.

    Let’s just hope that whoever replaces Mubarak in Egypt is far more effective and capable than Obama has proven to be. 🙂

  88. On a personal note, 1 of my professors is going to be gone today and has asked me to teach his course for the day. It’ll be my first. Pretty nervous and excited.

    Good luck. And remember what my Mom told me before public speaking. Go half as fast as your mind tells you to go. Nervousness speeds the process.

  89. So the big question is…when is Obama going to label this as a military coup, speak out against it, and eject all Egyptian diplomats from the US?

    After all, it’s not like he hasn’t done those things before in similar circumstances….

  90. This quote from the above link really deserves to be highlighted.

    “It would be a terrible precedent if we start moving backwards into the era in which we are seeing military coups as a means of political transition rather than democratic elections…”

  91. The idea that Egypt is going to move right into democracy is as far fetched as Dubby thinking that would happen in Iraq – or that anyone thought it would happen in Russia. Give it a few hundred years – that is what it took the US.
    On the other hand we don’t need to set up bought and paid for stooges like Mubarak, or Karzai, or the old Shaw of Iran or a whole host of South Americans we owned.

  92. God is not my pilot. He’s my plane. I steer my will where I choose to go. He provides the mechanism to get there. The choice is mine to pilot as I wish.

    Tex, I think you need to reevaluate your metaphors. If what you say is true, then just as a pilot is the master of his plane, you are the master of God. This means you and I are ultimately no different. God does not play an active role in what happens in your life … YOU run your life. Therefore prayer is futile. All I’ve ever said is that I don’t believe in a God that intervenes in daily life. You have just said the same thing. Either God is the pilot, or co-pilot or he is of little consequence in our daily lives.

    Unless of course, you wish to change your metaphor, as I suspect you will.

  93. I’m just not convinced that a fair election can take place. It just doesn’t appear in the genetic makeup.

    Forget genetic makeup …. you don’t believe fair elections take place in this country whenever a Dem wins. 😆

  94. If what you say is true, then just as a pilot is the master of his plane, you are the master of God. This means you and I are ultimately no different.

    I don’t think so. To me, co-pilot says equal and capable of flying without assistance. I think you need to reevaluate your conclusions Rutherford, but to each their own. Besides, who are you to be condemning me when you’re not even wise enough to board the plane?

    As to the lying bottle filler with the PHD in Piled Higher and Deeper, the scorned union flunky who can’t even spell Shah correctly and never has an original thought he can’t copy or steal, what that imbecile thinks is of no consequence.

    But it gives me another opportunity to remind him he’s a loser of the lowest caliber, no matter the arena. 😉

  95. Give it a few hundred years – that is what it took the US.

    More history time with Duncey?

    Wrong. It only took a few years from the time that the Crown decided that taxes and markets for finished goods were the purpose of the Colonies, and that while they were English subjects, they were not entitled to equal participation in the government that ruled them.

    Every time you start babblng about history, you start flinging manure like a poo-pitching monkey.

  96. “Wrong. It only took a few years from the time that the Crown decided that taxes and markets for finished goods were the purpose of the Colonies, and that while they were English subjects, they were not entitled to equal participation in the government that ruled them.”

    DUH The Magna Carta was extracted from English royalty in 1297.
    What a dim wit. The Egyptian or Russian situation is more like that of the French revolution which had no history of budding democracy. The French revolution was followed by a series of new monarchs and dictators.

  97. Democracies can die too – if not taken care of:

    “When the process of governing is incomprehensible, manipulation and propaganda thrives. The strange stories that Glenn Beck creates with his chalkboard gain traction with Americans, who are made anxious by the large changes that have overtaken the United States, including the election of a black president and the increasing racial diversity of the population, deindustrialisation and the decline of American power abroad, as well as cultural changes in sexual and family norms.

    By telling simple fairy tales that trace these big and complex changes to the machinations of particular people, Beck makes the changes comprehensible in a way, and also makes the people who are presumably responsible the targets of his listeners’ frustration and outrage. Partly because it is utterly irrational, and partly because it is an effort to bully and intimidate his political opponents, this is dangerous for democratic politics.”

  98. Well I just closed the survey asking my MANY listeners to help rename my Internet radio show. I already gave a shoutout to Rabbit who I’m pretty sure volunteered:

    Gollum and the Gash

    But not to be outdone, I see one of you has offered up another alternative:

    The Runt and the C*nt

    Yep, stay classy boys, stay classy. 🙂

  99. DUH The Magna Carta was extracted from English royalty in 1297.

    Does it HURT to be as stupid as you are?

    Until the Crown started to actively interfere in the self-governance of the colonies, and start reaching into their pockets to defray the cost of the Seven Years’ War, the colonies were largely autonomous, and weren’t interested in participation in Parliament until John Bull started putting the touch on them.

  100. It’s worse than you think BIC. Don’t you know the infamous Magna Carta has the audacity to mention The Flying Spaghetti Monster four times ❓

    DUH!!!

  101. No use teaching history to regressives – they never got that far in school and so they make it up – like Palin and Faux.
    Speaking of history:

    Egypt just gave us al Qaeda’s worst Nightmare

    A secular, non-islamic, non-violent uprising of the people – just drove out a pro-American, pro-Israeli dictator who’d been well lodged in place for 30 straight years.

    al Qeada’s entire raison d’etre has just been shot in the goat nads.

    Mubarak has Stepped Down and Left, power has been transferred temporarily to the Military and Courts – Democracy has Won. The People have Won, without Firing a Shot – or a single suicide bomber.

  102. No use teaching history to regressives – they never got that far in school and so they make it up – like Palin and Faux.

    This from the empty and mushy skull who never knew about the US imprisoning ditizens without due process based on their national heritage?

    Dawg, I already schooled you last year on something that my 11 year old knows about. But since you’re so very certain that your idiotic rambling is correct, how about you provide proof for your little “The History That Never Happened with Da Dumb Dawg™”?

    Go ahead, I’ll wait for proof that it took the US “Hundreds of years to move into democracy”.

    Bonus question:

    How were the colonies governed before the Revolutionary War?

  103. No use teaching history to regressives – they never got that far in school and so they make it up – like Palin and Faux.

    Can you imagine the superior educational credentials required to fill bottles for a living? Too much helium rots the brain.

    Mind boggling commentary….Under Dawg. Mind boggling.

  104. ..so the previous 500 years of English migration towards democracy had nothing to do with American democracy LOLOLOL
    Don’t expose your stupidity.
    But then history is not a regressive strong point.
    If Dubby had known any he would never have invaded Iraq – nor assumed that he was going to create a democracy there -and maybe he could have even told the different sects apart.

  105. This quote from the above link really deserves to be highlighted.

    This really quite misses the point Huck, I’ve heard some in the news call this a coup. Nonsense. Egypt has the unusual situation (at least unusual in my book) of having a very independent military that works hand in hand with the government to keep order in the country. They are almost a separate branch of government. If I’m not mistaken, they run stores and engage in commerce. This is a whole different animal.

    The transfer of power was just that, a transfer. It was not a “takeover” by the military as the word coup implies. I call BS on your comparison to Honduras.

    Honduras: “In the first military coup in Central America since the end of the cold war, soldiers stormed the presidential palace in the capital, Tegucigalpa, early in the morning, disarming the presidential guard, waking Mr. Zelaya and putting him on a plane to Costa Rica.” from the New York Times

    You’re talking apples and oranges and you know it. What’s more Huck …. you’re better than that.

  106. As much as everyone enjoys piling on Dog, he has made a point that should not be ignored. Has this thus far successful uprising in Egypt made al Qaeda obsolete? AND can we not use this to diplomatic advantage, saying, for example to the people of Afghanistan, “look what Egypt did, you too can have freedom without resorting to theological barbarism.”

  107. Some critics have said Obama and our gov’t looked flat footed not being able to predict the Egyptian crisis. I say in this case ignorance is bliss. The beauty of this Egyptian triumph is that it does NOT have our fingerprints all over it.

  108. Yellowdog, you are correct that events spanning 500 years ultimately led to democracy in England.

    However, you are making a text book teleological error. You are assuming the events of the past, such as an aristocratic check on the King’s power, took place by necessity so that the ultimate “goal”, democracy could be achieved. Do you understand how wrong that line of thinking is?

    Hucking could explain this better then me.

  109. Rutherford, we can’t even “read” the Arab street when they use Facebook. It should give us all goosebumps. Our intelligence capabilities are a joke. We got major, major problems.

  110. “Do you understand how wrong that line of thinking is? ”

    No – I believe in cause and effect.
    Any good history book will tell you exactly what I have said here.
    I first learned that in high school.

    But them those who believe in fairly tales believe in miracles not cause and effect.

  111. I can read Arabic Facebook. You can’t????
    And gee those regressives in Texas just chased Arabic off the curriculum – was that dumb or what?

  112. We fired all our Arabic translaters last administration because they were mostly gay. I guess we figured we wouldn’t need it be now if we had gone ahead and wiped all the Muslims off the map.

  113. I can read Arabic Facebook. You can’t????

    Why, you can’t even read English Dawg. It’s a wonder you know how to generate enough synaptic impulse to cut and paste while still remembering to breathe.

    And I would think in Texas, it might be a little more important for those minorities you dearly love to mow the yards at the Landscaping Co. , under the intent of somehow convincing more of them to vote you gov’t bennies, need to learn English to read and speech English first.

    —————

    Rutherford, I would think you would be embarrassed to continue sticking up for this bozo? Your question about Al Qaida is really pretty meaningless IMO – that’s a redundancy and play on words; a flavor of the day. Radical Islam and the hope of a Caliphate is the problem. Al Qaida goes by any other name: Hezbollah, Hamas, Egyptian Islamic Jihad, PLO, Jemaah Islamiyah, and a hundred other names. They are all based on the same basic premise.

    They all hate Jews, they hate moderate Muslims, they all hate Americans because they believe we are the Jews proxy, they sort of hate Europeans and Australians, they hate all infidels and godless types like you, including the Russians and Chinese – but are scared shitless of them, etc….because Putin and Communist China don’t dick around trying to figure out why they hate them. They just kill the radicals.

  114. Poolman, how can you possibly say stupid shit like this? And you wonder why I can’t take you seriously?

    We fired all our Arabic translaters last administration because they were mostly gay.

    OH BULLSHIT. It might help earn a little more trust if those translators would quit rolling grenades into fighting troops tents, or playing John Dillinger, M.D.

    I guess we figured we wouldn’t need it be now if we had gone ahead and wiped all the Muslims off the map.

    We could wipe the Muslims off the map with a command. I’m getting so sick of your American hating bullshit, I’m real close to coming to get your ass to have it shipped to Yemen and dumped in a mosque. I’ll bet that would shut your false witness up in a heartbeat while they stomped you to death.

    You’d be ululatng, sticking your ass in the air and wailing five times aday, and crawling to Mecca in a heartbeat if it wasn’t for guys like Gorilla.

    I’m surprised some of these military guys with access to some really lethal stuff don’t read your baloney and strafe your neighborhood for good measure.

    I would.

  115. Tex they hate Americans for any number of reasons but they don’t THINK we are the Jews’ proxy, they know it. Like it or not, can you deny it? Is there any other country on the planet as unflinchingly loyal to Israel as we?

  116. “No use teaching history to regressives – they never got that far in school and so they make it up – like Palin and Faux.”

    Except, of course, those of us who have earned degrees in History.

    And I am in the process of learning Arabic. Or at least attempting to learn it.

  117. Tex they hate Americans for any number of reasons but they don’t THINK we are the Jews’ proxy, they know it. Like it or not, can you deny it? Is there any other country on the planet as unflinchingly loyal to Israel as we?

    And is there any country on the planet as blessed as we are? I know you don’t understand the theological concept, but consider my motives partially selfish. Perhaps one day you’ll understand.

    You can lead a lib to logic, but you can’t make them think…

    Guarantee you this Rutherford – laugh all you want. The day we turn are backs on Israel, you can kiss everything as you know it goodbye.

    For example…

    I would think the irony that it just happened to be Jews booted from Germany that discovered, developed and armed the nuclear bomb might give you a hint to something grand – however, I’m afraid everything in your world is chalked up to random chance and coincidence.

  118. “Honduras: “In the first military coup in Central America since the end of the cold war, soldiers stormed the presidential palace in the capital, Tegucigalpa, early in the morning, disarming the presidential guard, waking Mr. Zelaya and putting him on a plane to Costa Rica.” from the New York Times”

    The New York Times forgot to tell you that the Honduran military was acting on orders from its parliament, who was acting in support of the Honduran constitution. A constitution that its ousted president was attempting to circumvent. They also forgot to tell you that no military commanders were put into any seats of power following that event.

    Does that sound like a military coup to you?

    I am not saying what happened in Egypt was a military coup. I am saying Barack Obama is an inconsistent asswipe.

  119. “Has this thus far successful uprising in Egypt made al Qaeda obsolete?”

    It does take away some of AQ arguments, and could affect its recruiting. For many, AQ is a means to an end. And that end just got achieved for some.

    Those who want a caliphate, however, will not be satisfied with this, as their ends have not been reached yet.

    And never forget that a global caliphate is the ultimate goal of al Qaeda.

  120. Huck,

    Did you teach? Was it pretty cool to look out that those young heads full of mush and realize they were hanging on your word?

  121. You know Rutherford, I really do realize to you the unbeliever in everything but an eternal void, how foreign my message must be to you.

    It’s just that I feel I recognize it’s an arrogance to think that all you can see is the only thing that exists, because I know better from science alone.

    So I got to thinking about Israel and its relationship with America. Let me approach this without the theological perspective, which you will never probably get.

    Does it bother you in the least that American officials said Mr. Leon Panetta was basing his statements on Egypt yesterday not on secret intelligence but on media broadcasts? Do you have a great degree of confidence that our CIA intelligence based on CNN?

    See, I can give you very practical reasons for keeping Israel as an ally…

  122. I did. It was fun.

    It was our Model United Nations course, so it was not like a traditional college course. The students have to do a lot of the work during the class, practicing speeches and procedure, and such. And I am friends with most of the class, so that was a different dynamic, as well.

    But they all handled it very well. There were a couple who I think tried to take advantage of the substitute by showing up late. But for the most part that class treated me like their professor for the day, which I greatly appreciated.

  123. Would it be presumptuous to nominate BIC or Gorilla to head the CIA?

    I would have a much greater degree of confidence concerning our intelligence if the man in charge were watch FOX broadcasting instead of CNN. Too Jane Fondaish…

  124. There were a couple who I think tried to take advantage of the substitute by showing up late.

    Dock them a letter grade! 😈 That’s the fruits of your hard work. 🙂

    Pretty cool. I take it that is what you want to do for a living? Professor of instruction? If so, it’s a noble pursuit. But you’ll probably be vastly outnumbered by propeller head liberals, so you’ll have to bite your lip often.

  125. Yeah, I am going to teach university-level social sciences. And looking forward to the research and writing that goes along with that.

    My MA program is really trying to brainwash me, with its America/West-hating. And I am proud to say that I do not bite my lip as much as maybe I should. Earlier this week I had to call out a professor who was babbling on about “the republican controlled congress” and the EPA. He was trying to say that the whole issue was about the GOP wanting deregulation, and I pointed out to him that part of the issue is the executive that wants to circumvent the legislature any time it doesn’t get its way.

    Teachers who try and make the class about their own politics piss me off. I have promised myself I will always try and guard against doing it.

  126. You can remind your American/West hating, EPA loving professor, if Carol Browner 70s type of the world hadn’t banished DDT, 50MM more people would be alive tonight, not having died from malaria.

    But who gives a shit. Most of them were poor black African kids and it wouldn’t fit the narrative of Lib do gooders who think the world overpopulated.

  127. OK so a couple of q’s for Tex:

    What does our friendship with Israel have to do with our piss poor intelligence? I don’t get the connection …. are you saying we need Israel for THEIR intelligence?

    I thought DDT’s were bad …. didn’t they cause birth defects or some such thing as that? At worst we eliminated one threat and increased likelihood of malaria in the process if I understand you properly. Hardly a zero sum game there. A trade off, maybe a bad one but a trade off just the same.

    Finally … you want Leon Panetta to watch Fox? Holy crap! That’s just what we need, the head of the CIA channeling Glenn Beck. 😯

  128. Huck … congrats on your class going well. Will you be teaching undergrads down the line? If so, how the hell is your libido gonna handle it? I think I’d go bonkers teaching 18 and 19 year old girls on a regular basis, especially those who want one on one special attention after class. 😎

  129. Now this video has absolutely nothing to do with the Egyptian Vice President but the similarity of name had me singing this song to myself all week, so here’s my final contribution before calling it a night:

  130. Yes, we need Israel for intelligence.

    Have you ever wondered Rutherford how a nation of 6MM people manages to survive, from the 1st day they were attacked by 200MM Muslims, a state that wins wars in six days, and takes on five Muslim countries simultaneously in the process? Does that not seem a little peculiar to you?

    Yes, Israeli intelligence is the best in the world, and there is a post you should read at Gorilla’s with sources far more in the know than us saying as much.

    Poolman looks at Jewish “infiltration” in our politics in America as a conspiracy and hostile – a threat. I recognize it as a blessing from God, with the exception of the awful secular Lib Jews you clowns support wholeheartedly. Anthony Weiner ring a bell? If he had any sense, he would recognize it too.

    ———–

    As for DDT, it’s not ever been proven toxic to humans or animals. It works on insects in much the same way that tetanus works on humans. As a matter of fact, none of the baseless charges of DDT were ever even proven, nor can they be verified. Don’t you remember Joni Mitchell’s Big Yellow Taxi song (the birds and the bees and the thinning of egg shells?) The main concern of DDT is that it has a long half life and is hydrophobic (doesn’t break down in water and stays in the soil. Good. That’s what it is supposed to do.

    It was the stupid environmental craze of the late 60’s brought on by the burning river in NY polluted by the company both whose name escapes me at this minute. Mass hysteria over one real crisis.

    The banning of DDT was junk science along the lines of anthropogenic global warming. This time, we are not going to let the dregs get away with it – and this time, they are losing the battle.

    So while our EPA mandated MTBE be added to gasoline reformulation, then later found to actually poison the ground water, DDT was banned but beneficial. Brilliant.

    Did you read the post yesterday of my Mom’s colonoscopy and the billing with Medicare Rutherford? The outrage of it all? If not, you should as it was a real eye opener for me. And you want these morons to now actively manage 1/6th of the economy?

    You liberals are a menace to the well being of the U.S., good intentions or not. The road to hell my friend…

  131. When speaking of democracy, some internal insight that might be useful:

    In July of last year, the University of Maryland commissioned Zogby to poll the people of Egypt. Here are a few of their findings:

    * 85% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable attitude toward the U.S.
    * 87% of Egyptians have no confidence in the U.S.
    * 92% of Egyptians believe the U.S. is one of two nations that is the greatest threat to them (the other nation the Egyptian people hate is Israel)
    * 52% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable opinion of American people
    * 65% of Egyptians believe that Islamic clergy must play a greater role in the Egyptian political system
    * 79% percent of Egyptians believe that it would be positive if Iran is able to acquire nuclear weapons

    The Zogby poll results back up a similar project conducted by Pew in April and May of last year. Among Egyptian Muslims polled, 85% felt that Islam’s role in politics was a positive one. In a struggle between modernizers and Islamist fundamentalists, 59% of Egyptians who foresaw such a conflict stated they would side with the Islamists, while only 27% stated that they would side with the modernizers.

    Another Pew poll last June revealed that only 17% of Egyptians hold a favorable view of the United States, while 20% hold a favorable view of suicide bombing. Yes dear readers, Egyptians like suicide bombing more than they like you.

  132. There is no diplomatic advantage to this. We can get an IO (Information Operations AKA Propaganda) gain, but governments are not going to trust us after this, especially those that we are pushing to do things that might not be popular.

    None of you guys have thought this out. We didn’t have to like Mubarak, and we certainly could have used the Tunisia situation to force gradual change on Egypt. Now there is a power vacuum in Egypt and we do not know who is going to fill it. HAMAS came to power through fair and free elections, had a falling out with Fatah and THEN suppressed everything in the Gaza. Pulling “facts” from Media Matters is probably not the brightest thing to do.

    I’ve asked this question of R before, and he hasn’t answered:

    How does this help the United States?

  133. (Gretawire) — A senior Obama administration official confirmed to Fox News that yesterday’s telephone conversation between President Obama and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia was unusually tense.

    The discord arises from Saudi displeasure over the Obama administration’s handling of the Egyptian crisis. “They have talked about [the necessity of] a dignified exit for Mubarak,” said the official. “And they are judging, in their own minds . . . that we have pushed Mubarak to the side.”

    The official said the issue has not caused “a serious strain” in relations between Washington and Riyadh, but that it should not surprise anyone that the two capitals see the crisis differently. “When we say that we call for democracy, what we call ‘democracy’ the Saudis are liable to see as chaos,” the official said.

    By the same token, the official could not identify a Mideast state that has equaled the Saudis in their dissatisfaction with Washington’s handling of the crisis. “The Saudis have always been the most conservative regime in the region,” he said.

  134. “How does this help the United States?”

    it’s not all about you….
    Imperialism dies hard.

    Meanwhile there are more English speakers in China than in the UK.

  135. Did you read the post yesterday of my Mom’s colonoscopy

    Yes I did and though I sympathize somewhat with doctors not getting paid their due I have a much more vital concern.

    My wife and I visited her cardiologist yesterday. I fully expected him to say “So, I see you had a trip to the hospital a few weeks ago”. Instead, he said “so how have you been?”

    I said to him, “you know about the hospital trip right?” His jaw dropped. He didn’t know a damn thing about it. Now someone please explain to me how someone goes to the ER with heart attack symptoms, tells the motherf*ckers the name of her cardiologist, and he is not notified. Can someone please tell me how that is proper medical care? I knew it wasn’t the cardiologist’s fault so I held my tongue but I lost it as soon as he left the room. If it weren’t for the fact she’s going in for a procedure on Thursday, I’d have called the f*cking hospital by now and asked about their procedures or lack thereof. Mind you, this is the same hospital that almost killed me five years ago.

    So, Tex while I understand government administered health care compensation may leave some doctors holding the bag, I’d rather we focus on unified health records so that a patient’s complete team of physicians and specialists knows what the f*ck is going on with the patient during the treatment process. 👿

  136. Meanwhile is Saudi next?
    And how is that domestic energy program going?
    “Drill Baby Drill’ is a fools song.
    LNG cars have a nasty habit of exploding:
    http://gas2.org/2008/10/31/alternative-fuel-car-explodes-in-fiery-ball-after-driver-lights-up/
    Nukes – are well nukes.
    Obama is proposing something – though not nearly enough:
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ENERGY_BUDGET_CUTS?SITE=KING&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=POLITICSHEADS.html

    and even that will make regressives howl…

  137. Gorilla, if you actually gave Bill Maher half a chance you’d get even more data to back up your worries. Something like 85% of Egyptians believe a woman should be stoned for adultery (I don’t remember the number exactly … I’m working off my poor middle aged memory).

    Look, there are two ways of looking at this. On the one hand there is the world according to Dog which I understand … this is really none of our business and the Egyptians must be left to determine their own future.

    Then there is the reality that the Suez Canal matters, the peace accord with Israel matters, the potential emergence of another country run by crackpot religious zealots matters.

    Dog has a Utopian ideal that I admire greatly but it doesn’t address what to do when the sh*t hits the fan.

  138. There is a parallel universe blasting out of my wife’s computer this morning. At the CPAC, where reality is not allowed an admission ticket, we have someone in the crowd calling Cheney “war criminal”. ROTFLMAO … you know you are royally f*cked when the CPAC crowd tells you you are a war criminal (it was Ron Paul supporters).

    Then, Donald Trump comes up to the podium, tells the crowd that Ron Paul is unelectable and that if he (Trump) runs and wins, “America will be respected again.”

    President Trump anyone? For goodness sake! 🙄

  139. “Then there is the reality that the Suez Canal matters, the peace accord with Israel matters, the potential emergence of another country run by crackpot religious zealots matters”

    Perhaps we shoudl have thought about that 30 years ago?
    Ditto energy independence.

    Shit meet fan. Of course we could do something stupid and make it even worse. We certainly have before. Iraq anyone? Afganistan? Hell yes we could invade a nation of 80.5 Million people and the largest military in Africa – with lots of modern US equipment.

  140. Well Dog, I’m hardly calling for an invasion of Egypt. Diplomatic influence is what is needed. I think the Obama admin attempted that. If they are guilty of anything it is talking too damn much about it in public. Keep the public grand pronouncements to a minimum and work behind the scenes.

  141. Oh, and Dog, in case you didn’t notice, Egypt already has “lots of modern US equipment.”, billions of dollars worth plus the best USA trained officers around. It might be hard to tell where the Egyptian military ends and the US one begins. 😉

  142. Okay Dawg. If you are to be taken seriously, start answering some questions. You want energy independence? Give us your solutions, because wind and solar are a pipe dream and completely infeasible.

    There is neither the transmission backbone to carry or the silver to construct solar panels. Like I said last week, WOOD produces over twice the energy production that your choices of alternative energy. One coal mine produces more energy than all the solar and win in the world combined.

    So what’s your next big alternative energy?

    How about some real documented proof this time?

  143. Rutherford, I think you need to find a different hospital. That one sounds completely inept. A simple phone call would have sufficed. What type of hospital? Public or privately run?

    Sorry for you problems, but the lack of data sharing is irrelevant to the point at hand.

    When doctors aren’t being paid for their services by supposed government healthcare, how long before you think you’ll even have a cardiologist to go to?

    That should be your first concern….

  144. Rutherford, I still find it ironic that you booted Elric who wasn’t stupid for his proclivities because you didn’t like his politics, but welcome some decrepit old dog like the Yeller posting the most ridiculous shit imaginable – without any facts. What next, UFO sightings as a staged Rethug Coup? Reich wingers in fascist uniforms storming the Whitehouse?

    If you haven’t figured out by now, Dawg isn’t exactly in command of his faculties. You’ve got a legitimate kook on your hands – possibly a mildly retarded one. it must be for the entertainment value (I hope).

  145. “Oh, and Dog, in case you didn’t notice, Egypt already has “lots of modern US equipment.”, billions of dollars worth plus the best USA trained officers around. It might be hard to tell where the Egyptian military ends and the US one begins. ”

    I think that’s what I said.

    btw there seem to be dust mites here – fumigate.

  146. Huck I must agree that fear-of-wife is a great disincentive to the wandering eye. 🙂 Of course in my case it also helps that my wife is the only woman on the planet the least bit interested in me.

  147. Tex, your hero Elric truly stands in a class by himself. All comparisons fail. Have you seen him anywhere on the net or has he been banned out of existence? This Egypt crisis along with Glenn Beck’s brilliant analysis is truly grist for Elric’s mill.

    BTW I don’t know if our hospital is public or not. They don’t seem to rely on donations so does that mean they’re probably public?

  148. Okie is doing better. 55 today – even warmer tomorrow.
    But it has been bad for many. Schools have burned thier snow days 2x, 3x – and winter is not over. Luckily there do not seem to have been power outages. We have missed a number of days of mail delivery – not to mention UPS. My drive should be melted by tomorrow….
    Luckily I stocked up on groceries last Monday.
    Bet between Vtines Day, church day, and folks going cabin fever crazy restaurants will be over flowing tomorrow.

  149. “Elric truly stands in a class by himself. All comparisons fail. Have you seen him anywhere on the net or has he been banned out of existence?”

    I know when I run into loonies like that I report them to authorities.
    With all those spy tools Dubby game them it’s not hard to track them.

  150. I know when I run into loonies like that I report them to authorities. With all those spy tools Dubby game them it’s not hard to track them.

    Unfortunately, the institutions don’ t carry much clout except keeping those institutionalized in their rubber rooms…

    Keep bouncing Dawg.

    Holding up just fine Rutherford. If I still had kids in schools, I would have gone out of my mind. Get this. In one week, Oklahoma will have experienced a 100 degree temperature swing. It’s supposed to be close to 80 by the end of this week.

  151. In one week, Oklahoma will have experienced a 100 degree temperature swing. It’s supposed to be close to 80 by the end of this week.

    And you don’t think, man-made or not, that something wacky is going on with the weather!

  152. LOL Dog we hardly need Dubby’s tools to track Elric. The nincompoop uses the same handle everywhere including an old MySpace page where he claims to be gay. Sad thing is, I think he did it as some sort of perverse joke. Not funny.

  153. “And you don’t think, man-made or not, that something wacky is going on with the weather!”

    Extreme weather is a major prediction of climate change. More precipitation in wet areas (E. Oklahoma) less in dry (W. Oklahoma and desert SW). More snow in places like Europe becuase of less ice cover >> more water in the air.

    I was in Thailand recently. The river that goes though Bangkok – 50 km from the ocean is now a tidal river and getting salty – it never was before, The city is in danger of flooding. Some crops that need some dry weather never get it now and will have to be dropped.

    When will the climate cranks notice? Or will all of Houston have to flood first?

  154. And you don’t think, man-made or not, that something wacky is going on with the weather.

    Sure. It’s called La Nina. We’ve known about it for at least 50 years. It’s more severe this year than normal and perfectly predictable. Is the bottle filler claimed PHD still at it? 😆 What a dunce. Rutherford, three years ago it dropped 60 degrees in two hours here.

    Dawg is the one that told me Conservatism was dead two years ago. What do you think of Rubber Room’s capability to predict? And you think he’s up on complex climate change?
    😆 😆

    GIve you one thing Rutherford. If somebody tells you they’re lib, boy do you become agreeable (and gullible).

    I’ll bet Dawg is a Commie over on secret mission. They don’t call him Yeller for nothing. What I want to know is, why in the hell didn’t he stay over there? Dawg is a much better fit in Nam than Oklahoma. North Korea would be even better.

  155. Why are regressives so easy? Throw out a little stink bait and they swarm.

    Where do they offer PHDs in bottle filling? 😈 Stink bait U?

    WHeW! Spoiled Dawg Meat!

  156. Here’s more proof of what happens when liberalism takes hold – and there is no doubt college campuses are liberalism run amuck. Liberals lie and deny this, of course.

    Jim Dougan would be pulling his hair out at the truth of this post when he and I used to go round and round. My current biggest pet peeve – the cost and overrated value of most current higher education, and the blatant ripoff of the administration of higher education (by the numbers):

    While visiting with old college friends on New Years’ Eve we did a back of the envelope calculation on the cost and value of our BA degrees in Accounting from 1981. We attended a small well regarded Midwestern liberal arts college from 1977 to 1981. Tuition, room and board was between $3,000 and $4000 per year so around $16000 for our BA. As entry level accountants in public CPA firms we earned a salary of around $17,000 per year. So we earned in salary an amount equal to the cost of a BA degree in our first year of employment. Now that same college, which my youngest daughter is looking at attending costs $42,000 per year. If she earned her BA in Accounting it would cost her $168,000. Her possible first year salary as a CPA? Not even close to $168,000. Maybe around $45,000. What a change in 30 years in the value of that BA in Accounting.

    Wish Jim were still here so I could hit him with this one to “watch” him squirm. I miss those discussions. 😦

  157. ” the cost and overrated value of most current higher education, and the blatant ripoff of the administration of higher education”-R

    It’s sickening.

    I know teachers who are 100,000 in debt right out of the gate.

    Crippled by a mortgage before you even buy a house.

    I heard Rush on the AM dial a couple weeks ago mocking people who are complaining about the weight of student loans. Basically, he said, if you can’t afford it, don’t go.

    Pissed me off.

    I left home at 17 and did what it takes to get educated etc. So, it’s not like I don’t know the hard work that is front of our college age generation. However, they are behind a black ball like this nation hasn’t seen ion some time.

    Debt slaves to the banks, who are in bed with Nanny.

    Nanny created this education bubble. Just like Nanny’s fat fingers caused the housing bubble.

  158. Regressives don’t get educated – it’s part of being regressive.
    So they cut public support for education and flog swill. “Intelligent design” anyone? What total crap “science”.

    Education is the best expenditure of public funds bar none.

  159. “Imagine there was an impending global crisis that was estimated to displace up to 200 million people, worldwide, and imagine the geopolitical consequences of dealing with such. Imagine its damage would cost global GDP from 5 to 20 percent. Imagine it was expected to devastate global plant life, including dangerously reducing crop yields and causing devastatingly increased wildfires. Imagine if the very base of the food chain was threatened. Imagine if the scientific evidence was overwhelming, and pretty much every significant scientific body in the nation was warning about it. Imagine if other nations were charging ahead on developing the new technologies it demands, while irresponsible inaction in this country already was costing billions in lost investments. With all that, you’d think responsible politicians might want to do something about it. You’d think they might want to save lives and the economy and ecosystems and the food supply. But that assumes that the politicians themselves were capable of thinking.

    When faced with the greatest crisis in known human history, this is how the Republicans are responding:

    Republicans on the House of Representatives energy committee on Wednesday aired their proposal to block the Environmental Protection Agency from reducing greenhouse gases and to reverse the agency’s scientific finding that climate change is dangerous.
    While the plan might be blocked in the Senate or vetoed by President Barack Obama, the comments during Wednesday’s hearing were a fresh indication of the depth of opposition in Congress to action on reducing U.S. carbon pollution. Supporters of the measure to revise the Clean Air Act to take away the EPA’s authority to regulate this type of pollution said that curbing emissions would be too costly.

    Too costly. Compared to a loss of 5 to 20% of global GDP?

    The EPA’s planned regulations “would boost the cost of energy, not just for homeowners and car owners, but for businesses both large and small,” said Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich., the author of the legislation. “EPA may be starting by regulating only the largest power plants and factories, but we will all feel the impact of higher prices and fewer jobs.”
    Higher prices and fewer jobs? Compared to a loss of 5 to 20% of global GDP, the endangerment of the base of the food chain, and hundreds of millions of people displaced, worldwide? Is it possible to think smaller? Is it possible to be smaller? It’s not only that Republicans don’t seem to understand what’s really happening to the climate, it’s that they don’t even seem to care to find out. It’s one thing to be uninformed, it’s another to be willfully ignorant– about the most dangerous crisis humanity has ever faced.”

  160. “Regressives don’t get educated – it’s part of being regressive.”

    Except those of us who have degrees in various fields. Which I believe is most of us here.

    “When faced with the greatest crisis in known human history, this is how the Republicans are responding:…”

    And how did the Democracts respond to it when they had absolute control of both houses of congress?

    No. You can’t blame this one on the GOP. Democrats had the chance to do what they wanted on this, and they showed that they could not come to a consensus on what they wanted.

    And whoever you are plagiarizing here forgot to mention what else republicans have been saying about this–just like my geography professor. Cost and deregulation are not the only issue at play here. Also at play is an attempt to stop an executive end-run around congress.

    The fact that you folks insist on omitting that from your narrative proves that you know it is wrong to do. That’s why you want to hide the fact that it is going on.

  161. Climate cranks – starting wit the ones in Congress shoudl be hung.

    The Congress authorized the EPA to do what it is doing.

    This years Congress obstructing because the previous one did not do thier bidding??? What a crock.

  162. “This years Congress obstructing because the previous one did not do thier bidding??? What a crock.”

    Yes. It is a crock That’s why that is not what I said.

    Let’s try again.

    Democrats addressed Cap & Trade while they controlled congress. It failed to get through. That failure had nothing to do with the GOP, who couldn’t have stopped its passage.

    And now, because it failed, the executive wants to forget about congress, and do some of the same things through an executive agency.

    So again I ask you…how did Democrats respond to “the greatest crisis in known human history”?

    So which is it, dog? Is it this….

    “Regressives don’t get educated…”

    or is it this….

    “I know a good many “ecucated” regressives…”

  163. Hey Dawg?

    It wasn’t twenty years ago, smarter goons in America than you were saying stupid shit like “diversity is our strength” and preaching multiculturalism as our savior. Our public schools are an indicator of the success of multiculturalism, as is our divided politics.

    But even more recent than that, when I went back to battling with your mentor but still incompetent blog owner Graychin who we finally embarrassed to the point of bailing out, old Gray still continued to throw Europe in my face as the proper “lving” model, both economically and socially. That was eighteen (18) months ago.

    Since then, we’ve watched Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy move toward the financial brink of ruin, with the entire European Union in turmoil. So for grins, let’s gather what European leaders, and I’ll include Australia in that mix, have said about multiculturalism – your second pillar of liberal thought.

    “My answer is clearly yes, it is a failure,” [French President Nicolas Sarkozy] said in a television interview when asked about the policy which advocates that host societies welcome and foster distinct cultural and religious immigrant groups.

    “It is time to turn the page on the failed multicultural policies of the past. So first, instead of ignoring this extremist ideology, we — as governments and societies — have got to confront it, in all its forms.” ~ British Prime Minister David Cameron

    At “the beginning of the 1960s our country called the foreign workers to come to Germany and now they live in our country. We kidded ourselves a while. We said: ‘They won’t stay, [after some time] they will be gone,’ but this isn’t reality. And of course, the approach [to build] a multicultural [society] and to live side by side and to enjoy each other … has failed, utterly failed.” ~ German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    “This is a time not to apologize for our particular identity but rather to firmly and respectfully and robustly reassert it, . I think one of the errors that some sections of the English-speaking world have made in the last few decades has been to confuse multiracialism and multiculturalism. Australia’s ex-prime minister John Howard

    That’s the three most powerful European Union countries you guys were espousing less than two years ago. 😈 You couldn’t have been more wrong in your prediction – about on par with Conservatism being dead. So your entire premise has blown up in your ugly face in less than two years.

    And now you want us to trust you “on the climate” and “education”, the latter which you’ve already screwed up? Seems we would do better always to take your nitwit opinions and do just the opposite.

    You’re comedy gold Dawg Shit. You really are… 😆

  164. “Climate cranks – starting wit the ones in Congress shoudl be hung.”

    Ah, I see we are already returning to the violent political rhetoric from the “peaceful” left who enjoys calling out others for their 24/7 hate-speech.

  165. Tex, I don’t know how much I would support those comments from Merkel.

    I mean…a German leader telling Germans to disregard alternative cultures and assimilate completely into German culture doesn’t remind you of anyone from history?

    She may as well just utter the words “master race” and get it over with.

  166. I know a good many “ecucated” regressives who obvously lost thier brain some where. Faux will do that.

    I know quite a few “ecucated” regressives that certainly could spell THEIR, E before I for the 1,222nd time, long before entering college.

    Do you have some kind of reading disability Dawg Shit? I thought things were improving when old Gray cried UNCLE under the guise of his high blood pressure and feelings and bailed, but I never dreamed we’d be stuck with a lying bottle filler in return. Maybe you’re the “ecucated” Hyde portion of the split personality.

    I still prefer the guy who screamed racist from the Aryan fortress.

  167. The idea that the GOP will do anything constructive about climate change is ludicrous. They have put crackpots in charge.
    Whine about what mighta shouda been done is of no use except to those who don’t want to do anything anyway.

    Climate cranks.

    ..and that seems to be exactly what the progressives want.
    perhaps I’ll buy some beach property – north of Houston.

    sawry i needd to putt sum typoos in to amuse the rettards…

  168. I mean…a German leader telling Germans to disregard alternative cultures and assimilate completely into German culture doesn’t remind you of anyone from history?

    She may as well just utter the words “master race” and get it over with.

    I don’t think that’s a fair assessment Huck, especially in conjunction with France, Britain and Australia saying the exact same thing, who were shooting the ancestors of Merkel 70 years ago. I could have added Spain and Belgium leaders to that mix.

    If a nation is going to be held liable for all of its egregious past sins, then America could by your definition be stuck having Rutherford carry around a 90lbs. cotton sack instead of attending one of America’s elite (and highly overrated) schools. 🙂

    Nations, like people, do evolve – sometimes for the brighter, Like I said, with that kind of “reparational” thinking, Egypt owes the Jews 400 yrs worth of back wages.

  169. Besides Huck, I’m not sure Hitler’s master plan had as much to do with “assimilation” as elimination.

    Countries simply can not coexist in peace and remain in existence and a modicum of productivity without some semblance of a shared culture and language.

    Just my opinion, but the word “United” comes to mind. You really think Dawg Shit is “united” with anything but his Benevolent Barack Bennies?

  170. Notice that the dog is unwilling to answer the simple question?

    What did Democrats do to address the issue they are now saying poses the greatest threat to humanity in all of human history?

    This should be a fundamental question asked by those who now want to cast stones at the opposition party.

    Should the democrats who voted against cap and trade be strung up with the republicans, dog? And from where should they be hung? Light posts? Or is strange fruit from small trees more to your liking?

  171. Those are certainly points, Tex. But when I heard that statement coming from a German chancellor, it sent chills up my spine. We’ve heard them before. And yes, Hitler did finally go to elimination. But there were many “solutions” that were attempted to address “The Jewish Problem” before they reached “the Final Solution.”

    I just thought it was a bad visual from a country with such a tarnished history of race-based slaughter. I still do.

  172. My suggestion for the liberal Klimate Kooks is to start dumping as many ice cubes as possible in the ocean currents and blocking the sun’s rays. Maybe you can shift the magnetic poles with your etch-a-sketch for computers.

    You’ll stand about as much chance in changing the climate as you did in believing the quickest way to cure the ailing economy is more allocate more for unemployment benefits.

    Brought to you by the same “fine” people who found profundity in the 2008 Dimocratic motto “YES WE CAN!!!”

  173. I concede your point Huck that if had solely been Germany, I might have raised my eyebrows remembering past history too….

    If she didn’t have plenty of company in her assessment.

  174. By the way Huck and Rabbit,

    My point of contention is not against you guys that teach for a living. That’s noble employment. This is a personal beef with the administration of colleges and their “fees”, one of which my daughter attends.

    If health care is an issue because of huge increases in cost, why then is the cost of higher education, which has risen twice as fast with respect to inflation as health care in cost, not also a concern?

    More specifically, why aren’t liberals in America outraged over the cost of higher education? I think you both know the answer….and this was my point of contention with Jim Dougan, which was never answered to my satisfaction. In fact, the attempt was never made as my point conveniently ignored.

    Duplicity in thought…

  175. The idea that the GOP will do anything constructive about climate change is ludicrous. They have put crackpots in charge.
    Whine about what mighta shouda been done is of no use except to those who don’t want to do anything anyway.

    Climate cranks.

  176. I don’t take offense to that, Tex.

    It costs too damn much. I am paying thousands and spend more mental energy fighting off obvious bias in the information I am being given than I am actually learning.

    It’s not that I am against opposing viewpoints…I’m not. Sometimes, they give me a lot to think about. My problem is that I am continually asked to disregard everything I have learned to this point and formulate my conclusions based on very limited sources that all come from a particular socio-political alignment.

    And paying a lot of money for it….

  177. “Whine about what mighta shouda been done is of no use except to those who don’t want to do anything anyway.”

    Well it is certainly good to know that we are all done hearing about what George W. Bush did and can now all start focusing on what Barack H. Obama does.

    Welcome to the club, dog.

  178. Huck,

    None of my business, but may I ask if have had to finance any education through Sallie Mae? I ask, because I borrowed a tuition’s worth of medical through them and they are the most incompetent hacks I’ve ever dealt with.

    Not only that, but they are coercive in their nature – for instance, to receive my tax information for 2010, I was literally forced to enroll in their electronic funds transfer program. The only bill I receive is a reminder in my email….

    I’ve got a notion to cancel it just to spite them now that I’ve got the tax info, and make them start billing me again.

  179. So dog…now that we are not worrying about the past and only talking about the present, what do you think of a president who forces his will upon the American public when he can’t get legislation passed through congress?

    Does that sound like a strong democracy to you? I know that is something you were concerned about regarding our last president. Does that still apply now that you’ve moved on?

  180. Tex, I do it all through my school’s financial aid department. I don’t know who is going to be getting all of my money. I just know it won’t be me…lol.

    I try not to think about it too much. Maybe that’s bad but it’s the only defense I have against letting it get me down.

  181. So dog…now that we are not worrying about the past and only talking about the present, what do you think of a president who forces his will upon the American public when he can’t get legislation passed through congress?

    You been listening to Beck hallucinations again?
    My regret about Obama is that he does not tell the GOP to go f**k themselves like they are trying to do to the country.

    Shills for Big Oil and the bakstas every one.

  182. That’s a pretty bold statement, considering the GOP are elected officials selected by their constituents to represent them.

    I was under the impression that you found such power grabs as a threat to our democracy. I stand corrected.

  183. PS there is no statute of limitations for war crimes. Dubby and Darth are at the top of the list.
    Switzerland almost got Dubby.. Maybe next time.

  184. Tex, regarding 188, I consider college tuition akin to the cost of living and it is not rocket science that salaries have not kept up with the cost of living. Would you say because carrots cost more now than they did in 1981 that carrots are worthless?

    Our country is slowly resembling places like Egypt where the boss makes 100 times more than his lowest paid employee. You might not like the notion of income redistribution but surely you also don’t like the oncoming extinction of the middle class.

  185. I think one of the errors that some sections of the English-speaking world have made in the last few decades has been to confuse multiracialism and multiculturalism.

    This is a truly interesting statement. I would love to hear John Howard elaborate on the difference. If I’m not mistaken, by the way, Australia doesn’t have the greatest track record for LACK of racism. I’m just sayin’.

  186. Rutherford,

    Did you not just read the cost of higher education tuition and fee increases is twice the rate of health care increases, and many times the cost of living?

    Why do you excuse academia for their insidious excesses, but condemn medicine, which must of the excess costs in medicine attributed to caring for the poor and indigent? I wonder?

    No, I really don’t, because the hypocrisy of liberals is sickening. If medicine were manned by the liberal community, the increase in health care costs would be attributed to the wonders of better medical care.

    By the way, professional test scores have been decreasing the last 15 years in conjunction with the higher costs in academia.

  187. Jim Dougan thought higher education was flawed because it wasn’t “liberal enough” to the more esoteric majors. As far as genuflecting, Jim’s typical response was, “Well I’m not get rich by this, and could be making three times as much in the private sector.”

    There was no genuflecting – only the occasional rage when I told him not only would he not be making three times as much in the private sector in his choice of doctorate, he’d be lucky to be employed in any capacity outside of contracted research.

    I’m not talking ill of the dead, but simply pointing out just how wrong Jim was about equating costs Rutherford – and that was far from Jim’s biggest mistake.

    I could say the same of you….

  188. Well Tex, I won’t ask you to quote me chapter and verse but I honestly don’t remember Jim offering a big defense of high college costs.

    Your point about tuition increases outpacing other increases is well taken.

    But your point about if “medicine were manned by the liberal community” is one I’d love to put to the test. I’d bet you dollars to donuts the preponderance of folks in the medical profession are liberal. 🙂

  189. They won’t be by 2014. Just wait until that monstrosity with Obama’s named spray painted all over it becomes a reality.

    The entire Democratic Party will be playing defense for two decades due that gazillion page cluster fuck.

    Rutherford will just never mention the health care bill he fought so hard for again. Kind of like Gitmo seemed to magically vanish from this forum. Poof!

  190. You won’t see much change with healthcare reform – It may well get improved some. If the mandate is over turned which i doubt it will be replaced by single payer. The repeal stuff is just window dressing aka stink bait for the rabble. The GOP leadership knows it would be dealth to kill it – it’s a third rail issue… It wil never die.

  191. Rutherford, 😆

    You never left the bubble…I think you forget where I came, where my friends are, where my daughter is.

    I’d bet you dollars to donuts the preponderance of folks in the medical profession are liberal.

    Not the doctors, not the administrators, not the shareholders, and not the trust funds. Are you talking about the nurses? You better be, because you’re in for a very rude awakening.

    Who do you think are the most vocal critics of BongoCare sport?

  192. My last comment was so disjointed it no sense.

    I should have retired before the sad sensicofication of a once witty, if not informed, forum poster.

  193. Rabbit,

    After trying to decipher Dawg Shit’s DISJOINTED screed, you could type in Pig Latin, and it would make more sense. 😈

    I notice that I’m getting bad about leaving out entire words. 😆

    I don’t even apologize anymore for my floundering style.

  194. Rabbit, first of all I adamantly defended the principle behind HCR and once it passed and I got a better idea of its complexity I said more than once in this forum that it was indeed a clusterf*ck. Not one totally without merit, but way more complicated than need be. I also admitted more than once in this forum that in retrospect, Obama’s time would have been better spent on jobs.

    Secondly, more than once you’ve said I have Gitmo up my ass and I really don’t know where you get that from. I don’t think I’ve ever written an entire piece on Gitmo. The most I’ve said is that it isn’t cool to keep people confined indefinitely without trial. I’ve also said rendition isn’t cool. I’ve also said warrantless wire tapping isn’t cool AND I’ve also said Obama isn’t cool to continue these Bush policies.

    Sorry, there are probably a couple of areas where you can throw the hypocrite card at me but I don’t think these are them.

  195. You won’t see much change with healthcare reform – It may well get improved some. If the mandate is over turned which i doubt it will be replaced by single payer. The repeal stuff is just window dressing aka stink bait for the rabble. The GOP leadership knows it would be dealth to kill it – it’s a third rail issue… It wil never die.” – Bitch

    I want to remember this.

    For a third rail, I find it interesting that it has NEVER had popular support and that is has ALWAYS had majority support for repeal. It’ll likely be found unconstitutional in the Supreme Court and it’ll be a GOP bill that replaces it.

    But for someone who feels that it is a third rail and it’ll kill who ever touches it, then why don’t you let come to a vote in the Senate? Let the GOP touch it and you and your ilk vote against repeal. According to your logic, the right pays a price and you smell like roses….

    …except that you know it is not a third rail and you know that voting against it is the death knell of any politician. Reid won’t let it come to a vote because he knows there is a VERY good chance it’ll pass in the Senate, which vote matter since Obama will veto it.

    As for third rails in general, I think baby boomers like the Bitch are about to come to a very hard reality very soon. The Gen Xer’s are getting exceedingly tired of the generational theft that is going on. The politicians who followed Reagan paid a price because of baby boomers, but this is a very different situation where the common call is, “get your grubby old hand out of my pocket.”

  196. Dawg, comic golden boy – you certainly are a gullible soul and textbook case of confirmation bias. Grab a favorite talking point, and find any source to confirm the result you seek. Problem is, you live a lie and you are party to lies. Not even a good liar. Like the snowflakes in your driveway, your days are numbered.

    Moreover, it strains credulity to believe that Republicans are really just concerned about representing the people’s will when they’ve done their darndest to block majority votes at every turn. Indeed, they were all too happy to deny the will of the 78% of Americans who wanted Congress to “do something” about global warming back in 2009 when climate legislation was still on the legislative agenda.

    Propaganda – pure propaganda and lies.

    Here’s the truth about the American concerns and global warming doesn’t even rate a blip with average Americans. You Dawg Shit are a statistical anomaly – and idiot of such epic proportions, you don’t even fall in the normal statistical standard deviation – an error of nature; a moron.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx

  197. “must be that echo chamber”

    He said, as he echoed the article from Salon…

    “shall we play a little game of “Count the LIes”

    Yes, let’s. Here’s a huge one…

    “It’s a strategy that combines the GOP’s two favorite tactics: obstructionism and Tea Party-baiting. First, Republicans do everything they can to block bills on … well, on anything, really. Then, when the administration tries to actually address deep and systemic problems through other legal, constitutional, Supreme Court-approved approaches, Republicans cry “power grab!” in an attempt to move things back to Congress, where they can return to their preferred approach to governing: Using procedural quirks to shut down the legislative process altogether.”

    Except we all know that republicans did not take part in obstructionism when the democrats controlled both houses of congress. It was democrats who blocked fellow democrats, on that one.

    But notice it was the GOP who did the blocking, then came Obama to the rescue.

    Again, I ask. Why is the FACT that it was the democratically-controlled congress who failed to pass cap and trade being glossed over and made to look like the republicans stopped it?

    I’m guessing that lie didn’t make your count, dog.

  198. the regressives remind me a lot of those robot soldiers in Star Wars. When the death star explodes they will all freeze.

  199. “Except we all know that republicans did not take part in obstructionism when the democrats controlled both houses of congress”

    Party of NO” – remember that? – all the repugs did for the last 2 years. Now they have to do something – and so far they are doing shit.
    Where are the jobs Boner???
    Too busy trying to set women’s right back and screw the environment.

  200. The problem Huck is this damn filibuster foolishness where everything has to pass by 60 votes. We didn’t have an overwhelming majority in the Senate so all we needed were a few dumbass blue dogs to screw up the works. That is UNLESS we could count on some truly bi-partisan GOPhers to help push things through BUT as Dog points out, the GOP was the party of no so we could never count on any GOP votes to make up for our own dissenters.

    The DEM’s big problem is they don’t robotically follow the party line like GOPhers do. If they did, we would have pushed through everything we wanted.

  201. Speaking of women’s rights … are all you pro-lifers happy with the turn new legislation is taking that would ultimately deny abortion to a mother whose life is at risk?

    I thought we had all agreed that was a reason for abortion that everyone could sign up for … to save the life of the mother. Now that may be at risk. This should tell you why government needs to stay OUT of the birthing business.

  202. “The problem Huck is this damn filibuster foolishness where everything has to pass by 60 votes.”

    It wasn’t a problem when you wanted something bad enough, was it?

    I guess cap and trade just wasn’t a big fucking deal.

  203. The problem Huck is this damn filibuster foolishness where everything has to pass by 60 votes. We didn’t have an overwhelming majority in the Senate so all we needed were a few dumbass blue dogs to screw up the works.

    Guess that goes to show even a degree in MATH from an IVY LEAGUE University isn’t worth much anymore. ROTFLMAO

    In the United States Senate, a three-fifths majority is required to bring out a vote of cloture, to end a filibuster. That is considered a super majority and OVERWHELMING. The Dims could have had anything they wanted for nine whole months, and still walked around with their dicks in their hands (like Dawg Hair).

    Face it boys. You had for a time and couldn’t perform. LOSERS and INCOMPETENT – like your President.

  204. At what point do we, or at least I, start having the conversation that maybe the neo-cons were right?

    I’m not saying they are.

    But damn, the middle east is throwing off the yoke as I type this. That’s exactly what the neo-cons said would happen if we liberate Iraq.

    Who knows what will happen.

    All I know is that if the Middle East becomes democratic, GWB will be a legend.

  205. “But damn, the middle east is throwing off the yoke as I type this. That’s exactly what the neo-cons said would happen if we liberate Iraq.”

    No, it’s because Obama made a speech…..

  206. No, it’s because Obama made a speech…

    Channeling the inner Yellow Dawg! 😯

    His dimwitted nature is rubbing off on the entire room. Thier Thier Thier Huck. The ShaW of Rick, I mean Iran was a Reich winger and Rethug.

    Faux Nesw rotts the regressive mind.

  207. Rutherford, you argued for that cluster fuck knowing it was a cluster fuck the whole time. Please don’t pretend that only after the monstrosity was put into law you became aware of the c-fuck.

    The health care is EXCACTLY what we told you it was.

    Now your hands are clean?

    Come on. You drank Obama kool-aid and hurt America.

  208. The health care is EXCACTLY what we told you it was.

    Now your hands are clean?

    Come on. You drank Obama kool-aid and hurt America.

    Yeah, I gagged on the GITMO content too. That was equally dishonest. How many times did we hear about torture and water boarding two years ago? About Iraq, which Obama has done nothing about?

    Jobs, economy, transparency…

  209. More true commentary concerning Rutherford’s hero. Rutherford, you couldn’t have been more wrong about this clown. I’m telling you now, “Told you so!!!!”

    “Obama has promised so much and hasn’t delivered any of it. Not on Iraq or Afghanistan or Guantanamo not with the stimulus, not with any thing. And as the Unions begin to notice he can’t deliver ( and delivering what they need is a fiscal impossibility) it’s going to get worse for him. Unfortunately he’s such a clown he may take the country down the tubes as well. The man has the depth of a sheet of paper.”

  210. Come on. You drank Obama kool-aid and hurt America.

    I hurt America? Not since Jon Stewart told Tucker Carlson he was hurting America on CNN’s “Crossfire” have I seen such hyperbole. Then again, I got a major kick out of it at the time. Now I know how it feels to be Tucker. 🙂

    When I wrote my comment about Gitmo, I forgot about the torture part because I don’t view torture as confined to Gitmo. And I’m still against it and if Obama is still doing it, like I said before, that’s not cool.

    The most hilarious part of all this is that you guys rail against a President who is pushing your agenda … INCLUDING HEALTH CARE. It’s Bob Dole’s plan dudes that we’ve got right now. It’s the Romney mandate that we’ve got right now. This implementation of HCR couldn’t be more conservative.

    Bottom line … yeah I supported the c-f*ck. No I didn’t know the full extent of its complexity but it didn’t matter because the alternative was letting people die cos they couldn’t afford to live … immoral, plain and simple … inexcusable in the richest country in the world. I stand by the principle. Would focusing on jobs first have been smarter? Hell yeah. But that’s spilled milk now. Let’s focus on jobs and after the GOPhers make a big enough stink about HCR, let’s do what we should have done in the first place …

    Medicare for all.

  211. Let’s focus on jobs and after the GOPhers make a big enough stink about HCR, let’s do what we should have done in the first place …

    Got to run Obama into the tall weeds to repair the economy. It will be 2013 before we can become completely serious about economic repair, because Obama and his thug regime are not serious players in anything but propaganda and bullshit.

    Obama’s budget today is only the latest of misguided, pathetic and worthless tactics. Even some Dimocrats were going WTF? Obama is simply not capable or economically intelligent enough to lead the country back to prosperity.

  212. M&H Update

    I wasn’t gonna bother to revisit this topic here again but the past 24 hours have been mind-blowing:

    1. One of my comments there was edited to make me look illiterate.

    2. One of them (Lori) called me by my real last name obviously thinking she was outting me. What’s funny is I’ve become so loose about it in some places on the Net that it’s hardly a “secret” anymore … but damn, the girl has no class.

    3. (and this is the creepy part) I looked through my Google Analytics report tonight for my professional site and found out that some M&H sister site (something about a kitchen, ironically enough) linked to me 12 times. I then found them conjecturing on THAT site about whether or not I was lying about being black.

    Now, the overall message they’ve been purporting about me is “nothing to see here” yet they’re wasting lots of time talking about me and “researching” me. Damn, dudes and dudettes,I think I’ve discovered a site full of Fatal Attraction Glenn Close’s. I hope I don’t find a rabbit boiling in my kitchen later this week! 😯

    P.S. Hi to Lori you sneaky little lurker you. 👿

  213. Rutherford,

    I told you they were a bunch of licentious snakes. I haven’t been back over there since they kept deleting my comments, so I haven’t kept up with you.

    But I’m telling you I did a little “research” on the two most vile posters during that abortion fiasco and found out their names. These are some seriously screwed up bitches and hags. Both of these dopes have their own blogs, by the way, and one is suffering from severe depression – so much so, that it appeared her life’s mission to tell the world about it. She weighted in at about 280lbs. Surprise, surprise.

    That information took me about 10 minutes to track down, and I confirmed on another blog it was indeed the poster. I’ve got her address. 🙂 We can pay her visit and knock some sense into her.

    If they start pulling your chain, let me know. Maybe it is time to start researching exactly who “M&H” are, because it isn’t a couple of old stinkin’ twats – that much, I’m sure.

    Really, I’m surprised that Poolman is even a part of that. We’re talking the absolute dregs of the left-wing blogosphere; every bit as vile as something like KKKos and ten times as stupid.

  214. Rutherford, I can see the attraction of visiting such a place once. Sort of a smell-the-milk-you-are-pretty-sure-is-rotten kind of thing.

    But now you’ve smelled it. Why take continuous whiffs?

  215. Since 90% of that place was blowing smoke up each others ass’s, I failed to see the value in it.

    If they want to smear peanut butter and invite the Bitch over, fine, but I’ve seen enough train wrecks to know there’s nothing of value over there…

  216. SYMPTOMS OF RELIGIOUS ADDICTION
    Inability to think, doubt, or question religious information and/or authority
    Black-and-white, good/bad, either/or simplistic thinking: one way or the other
    Shame-based belief that you aren’t good enough or you aren’t doing it right
    Magical thinking that God will fix you/ do it all, without serious work on your part
    Scrupulosity: rigid obsessive adherence to rules, codes of ethics, or guidelines
    Uncompromising judgmental attitudes: readiness to find fault or evil out there
    Compulsive or obsessive praying, going to church or crusades, quoting scripture
    Unrealistic financial contributions
    Believing that sex is dirty; believing our bodies or physical pleasures are evil
    Compulsive overeating and/or excessive fasting
    Conflict and argumentation with science, medicine, and education
    Progressive detachment from the real work, isolation and breakdown of relationships
    Psychosomatic illness: back pains, sleeplessness, headaches, hypertension
    Manipulating scripture or texts, feeling specially chosen, claiming to receive special messages from God
    Maintaining a religious “high”, trance-like state, keeping a happy face (or the belief that one should…)
    Attitude of righteousness or superiority: “we versus the world,” including the denial of one’s human-ness.
    Confusion, great doubts, mental, physical or emotional breakdown, cries for help

    The ultimate temptation of the believer is to assume that his or her way to God is the best or only way for others. The particular Way to God becomes what is adored, not the ineffable and incomprehensible Mystery to which we give the name of God.
    © Paschal Baute 1993

    It’s a mental illness.

  217. Huck, you’re right …. I stayed there too long mainly out of stubbornness. I was subscribed to the one thread that I was debating, not the entire site. Once I saw over the weekend that they had edited one of my first comments to make me look illiterate, I canceled my subscription to the thread never to return. I actually TOLD them enough about me in my last comment to make further “research” unnecessary but it didn’t satisfy their sickness.

    I’ll tell ya Tex, I know hell hath no fury like a woman scorned but this is ridiculous. There is an unwritten code in the blogosphere that you deal with bloggers as bloggers and you don’t cross into their “real” lives unless invited to do so. This little incident blew my mind … I’ve never been so pissed at a commenter that I was even tempted to delve into their real identity. On the contrary, I’d be a bit afraid of what I might find. 😯

    The only reason I even know Elric claimed to be gay on his MySpace page wasn’t research … it was because one of you guys got there before I did and posted a comment about it.

    Anyway I’m done with them. A sad waste of what could have been an intelligent lib blog and instead they turned it into a safe haven for ragers, paranoids and gossips.

  218. Rutherford,

    You’re smart enough, you need to teach this “Lori” a real lesson in life. You find out who she is, and I’ll crack out the Visa for $29.99 to nail her nasty ass for major exposure.

    We’ll post everything about here right here on the blog and teach her lesson she won’t soon forget. 😉

  219. Hey Dawgmeat,

    I took a look at your pal Paschal. Though he is one screwed up fellow, as everything he has posted is “spiritual”, if it is a mental illness as you attest, Paschal would have to be first on the list of the mentally ill.

    Not only has he incorporated “religion” into every facet of his work, but every facet of his life…

    As usual, you missed the premise and are only making a fool of yourself quoting someone that would find you an abomination. Shocka! 😯

  220. Tex, I appreciate the sentiment but my life is complicated enough right now to be wasting more time on “Lori”.

    I can’t speak for him but I suspect the site appeals to Poolman because so long as you sing the party line, they act like they care about you. In fact the site is quite split-personality. In the same thread where folks are giving encouragement to others with sick spouses you’ll find the snidest nastiest stuff.

    We haven’t heard from Poolman or El Tigre in a couple of days. Hope all is well in their neck of the woods. My next post (which I’ll probably write today) will be a satire which will inspire either hilarity or outrage. What else is new?

  221. Rutherford, a serious question. Something with “less meat” 🙂 but more substance than that aborting misandrist Lori and her band of murdering scum, useful idiot, and ignorant tools.

    Why would you suppose I could ever support a President that lies, misleads and plays games like this? Why would you not find me the cynic? Seriously. This budget that Obama proposed is of a deluded and detached mind. We all agree the country is going bankrupt. And yet, Obama….

    This was supposed to be the moment we were all waiting for. After three years of historic deficits that have added almost $4.5 trillion to the national debt, President Obama was finally going to get serious about fiscal discipline. Instead, what landed on Congress’s doorstep on Monday was a White House budget that increases deficits above the spending baseline for the next two years. Hosni Mubarak was more in touch with reality last Thursday night.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703584804576144461982648424.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

  222. Rutherford, what happened to you at that site is horrifying. Its one of biggest fears. Terrible. Despicable. I feel for you, man. And I really mean that. I’m staying the hell away from those people.

  223. Rabbit,

    Our one exchange in email some years back included your personal name. You sent it to me.

    You may or may not have recognized it was part of the data that you had included in setting up your email. However, your secret is safe as I’ve never even mentioned it to Rutherford, nor would I. I’m not a chicken shit like that Lori shrew.

    If you were to look closely, you would see my real name is also included to you in the exchange. Yeah, it is that easy, and it’s a joke how much information is available on-line for a small fee, much of it free. I know at least three personal names in this very blog room, one who I have gone round and round with that is not the blog owner. Rutherford and I both know each other’s names.

    People worry about social security numbers? Haw! They ought to be worried about their entire credit history being scattered across the net.

    That’s why guys like Rutherford and me don’t engage in those kinds of games. Not only is it a degree of respect, but it’s also stupid as the game could be turned right around on you and your family in a heart beat.

    I find no harm in people providing opinion, even vile opinion, under a degree of anonymity as long as it is not threatening or illegally malicious.

    If I were Rutherford, I promise you this “Lori” would now be backpedaling as fast as possible, and groveling for him to stop.

  224. Rabbit, Tex is better at this stuff than I am despite my 24 years as an “IT professional”. You wrote me once dude last summer but you were careful to stay anonymous, so I only know what you look like (LOL unless of course you sent me a pic of somebody else’s family ROTFL).

    A few of you have written to me with varying degrees of anonymity plus I get real or fake email addresses connected with your posts. I am VERY careful never to mention this info online or send the info to anyone offline.

    LOL … Tex, when Poolman sorta tried to “out” you a week or two ago, I have to wonder if it was the M&H proclivity rubbing off on him? I wonder if they pull that crap with lots of people?

  225. The funniest part of this was I chose a pen name 3.5 years ago to protect myself against conservatives who might come after me and more importantly my family. Who woulda thunk some liberal turd site would be the one I should be wary of?

    This may be enough to make me switch parties! 😀

  226. Wow.

    I am that naïve.

    Holy shit.

    If I was Rutherford, I would delete this entire blog and start over. He has obviously made enemies with people willing to do his family harm.

    People like Lori scare the living shit out of me.

    Everything said online echoes for an eternity. I’m just not comfortable with that.

    Tex, had it not been for that email could my identity still be tracked?

    I’ve been kind of reassessing my relationship with the web for about 6 months now. This outing of R might be my last straw.

    I’ve really only posted here and a family’s blog of a dead Navy buddy of mine. No Facebook. While I think I’ve always been pretty honest here, I’ve certainly said things I wouldn’t want to be public. I feel confident that guys like you or R would never fuck with my personal life. But what about other posters? Do I trust the Yellowdog or that Elric guy? Or any future poster?

    Whatever happened to the days of shit talking in person over a pint at the pub?

    Does taking part in the info revolution demand the death of privacy?

  227. Okay Rutherford, out of sheer boredom until the weather warms and I can get back outside to finish what I started, I took the “liberty” to go over to Fat Grannies to read her pathetic little gang of sycophantic comments directed to you. And I saw you had been savaged – the one I chuckled at most was you being called a fire hydrant on your own blog. 😈

    Have you noticed the hideous shrews (have you seen some of their personal pictures? They redefine ugly) don’t venture far from their haggardly flock? Have you noticed they aren’t particularly singularly effective?

    See Rutherford, there’s nothing more pretentious then these old worn out, hag feminists out of the Molly Ivins, Gloria Steinem mold. For instance,

    Gloria Steinem said that “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle”, and that marriage has “a bad name”. Yet she married David Bale in 2000, preferring to enter into an institution she said made women “a semi-nonperson”.

    Now, what little intelligence Steinem had, divide it by two and you’ve got the Fat Grannies crowd, plus the Fat Granny younger sycophants who have’ been rejected and scorned by men, and now are befriended by the older hags. It’s a combination of old hens and gossips, eunuchs, and the younger generation of abortion providers.

    Rutherford, though you’ve learned a valuable lesson in truth, I’m actually kind of sorry I baited you to even attending Fat Grannies. You’ve now met what BIC, Gorilla, Rabbit, Huck, and I have been talking about for two years. Most liberals are gutless, weak cowards and propagandists, unable to back up their arguments.

    It’s been my experience that you and Jim Dougan are somewhat rare. Progressive minds that actually will stand toe-to-toe and duke it out.

    So I have a question. Assuming we were to have a tea, since you don’t drink, who would you rather share a table with and find more enjoyable, humorous, and fun Rabbit, Gorilla and BIC? Or the wrinkled witches and bitches of Fat Grannies in two with their younger pack of spinsters?

  228. Rabbit, I was unnerved by it, particularly when I saw they were reading my professional web site. If I had been smart I would’ve left them a comment along the lines of “hey, if you’re gonna visit my business site, at least buy something!”

    Despite being thrown off guard, I’m not overly worried. The girls were angry that despite my pro-choice feelings I wasn’t buying all the corresponding pro-choice rhetoric like “I found myself pregnant”. Then they got uber-pissed when I suggested there was a strong smell of man-hate to their arguments.

    It’ll blow over. If they attempt to embarrass me professionally which I highly doubt, I’ll see if there is any legal action I can take but I don’t expect it to come to that. From my POV, the worst they can do is post sh*t to the comments section of my professional blogs …. and I’ll just delete it.

    Or who knows … if need be, I’ll call in my special forces … Tex is locked and loaded. 🙂

  229. Rabbit,

    You got to remember you and I shared a personal exchange, and I doubt you’ve done that with too many people. If you do further and wish to remain anonymous, set up a yahoo or gmail account like Rutherford.

    I imagine Rutherford is like me. We would prefer to remain anonymous, but there’s not a hellavu lot that would really interest people, our record is clean, and there’s not much to insult.

    What’s Rutherford’s most egregious sin? That he bought more house than he should have? Him and 100MM other Americans. My biggest sin? Getting sideways with new management during a merger and telling them to kiss my ass? Not finishing medical school? Screwed up a promising career? So what? I’m not starving, my wife and kids still love, I’m not dependent on anybody but my spouse. And I’ve had an epiphany of sorts – nobody mature and worth knowing gives a shit what you do for a living.

    I”ve grown to admire you, Rutherford and some of the other people here. I find it interesting the paths you’ve taken and the sacrifices you’ve made. I’m flattered you share information and find it refreshing to discover I can cross party lines and putting politics aside, find that I would like you as a friend. I even notice when foes like Poolman disappear for a few days and find myself hoping everything is okay.

    Though I’ve never done it, I’ll bet BIC or Tigre one day could direct me to legal information if need be. I wouldn’t hesitate asking Rutherford a technical question, or you and Huck a history question or source. There’s real power in the internet.

    It can be used for great good – and as Rutherford unfortunately discovered, great evil.

  230. I just noticed a typo…that should have been tow, not two. 😳

    Here’s the way I look at Rutherford. Somebody could choose an easier victim. What are these hags going to out? I don’t even have a parking ticket on record. I doubt we’re going to find out you’re a criminal either.

    If M&H show up at my door, I suppose I could knock the damn dentures out of their heads. 😆 Fake will have a fit now and report to the world I”m a wife beater, or sociopath like Graychin announced, or something at that regard.

    Sociopath and dangerous. That still makes me laugh. My two older lady friends, one who lives across the street and the next door and Lib, thought me so dangerous they bought me Christmas gifts “for taking good care of them.” My wife responded, “He needs something useful to do…”

    They were addressed to Don ‘Tex’ Corleone…

  231. Poolman

    I know how you love to link to AlterNet. Assuming you show up, perhaps you would like to excuse and explain this one from your favorite “linking” blog? Sambo, coon, monkey in the window?

    A little excerpt?

    We always need a monkey in the window, for he/she reminds us of our humanity while simultaneously reinforcing a sense of our own superiority. Sadly, there are always folks who are willing to play that role because it pays so well.

    http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2011/02/12/black-history-month-is-herman-cain-playing-the-race-minstrel-for-cpac/

    Rutherford, do you approve of this context because a black man happens to be Conservative?

    Out of curiosity, would it more egregious for Barack Obama to be referred to as Black Sambo than Herman Cain? If so, why?

    Heads up my old friend “R”. My previous statements telling you the biggest white racists I ever met when the curtain pulled had a ‘D’ for party affiliation? One day like you learned at Fat Grannies, you’ll learn I was right about this one too. 😉

    Just a thought.

  232. Tex, I’d be cool with letting most who post here know who I am.

    That being said, the nature of my job makes privacy insanely important. Even silly things that normal people wouldn’t even bat an eye at become public nightmares for me. To some extent, I’m a public figure.

    Everything is so permanent online. For instance, I’d love to tell the tale of my cattle thievery days in Northern California but I can’t..uh..crap..wait.. 🙂

  233. Rabbit, I think I understand. Your secret is safe with me. But I would recommend in correspondence, going out to Yahoo and setting up an email account under a fictitious name.

  234. Hey Rutherford, since you’re busy and I’m not (though I should be), I went looking at some of your detractors just to measure exactly what we really are fighting with from Fat Grannies.

    Have you taken a look at some of these blogs of they own? Want a good laugh peruse through some of those things.

    Jean, the one that refers to you as the pseudo intellectual and her incapacitated lover as “boy toy” 😈 has a blog site made up of “intellectual” material concerning everything from Islam to statistics – which has obviously been copied and pasted into sections, accompanied by music. And I’ll follow Jeans’s favorite concerning acumen “I use the term intellectual loosely.” Freshman collegiate material.

    Guarantee you Aunt Jean’s real boy toy is a 64oz jar of Vaseline and eight inches of big head ribbed rubber, as boy toy couldn’t achieve lift off with an entire bottle of Viagra. He went looking for a nurse; she found a small purse.

    Besides, Aunt ‘Jeanie’ from her Gravatar looks like she is about 50 years this side of menopause. You couldn’t ‘slide’ her if you stood her on her head, tilted at 85°.

    These are some sad sacks you’re dealing with her “R”. We could absolutely hammer them if you wish. Get them over here, and we’ll work them over. 😉

  235. What the hell is this Tex?

    Him and 100MM other Americans.

    My sweet “Mommie Dearest” would croak if she had read that. I literally ignore grammar anymore…and I guess that is pretty obvious.

  236. Tigre, just returned from a trip out of state. I haven’t left. . . yet, but certainly hope my anonymity remains intact (at least beyond this group).

  237. Oh, you know how it is Gorilla.

    With some mindless Libs, you know you’ve won the argument when they invoke either Nazi or race.

    Concerning Dawg Meat, in the three years I’ve unfortunately walked across his fast road to hell on occasion, after his arguments have been shot down, his logic twisted into a pretzel, his head shrinks with the weight of stupidity, and you’ve corrected his misspelling of the word THEIR for the millionth time, Dawg Meat’s last hole card is to mock Christianity and Zionists – but never Muslims.

    I’m still awaiting Poolman or Yeller Dawg Meat to justify that article from their favorite lib site AlterNet the link to here often and noted in #276 that called Herman Cain Little Black Sambo, Uncle Tom, coon, and monkey in the window.

    But it’s okay, because the author didn’t call him the dreaded ‘N’ word. 🙄

  238. LOL Tigre, sometimes I forget people have actual lives and when they don’t visit the blog for a few days I get worried. Call it Hippie Professor Complex.

    Speaking of which, does anyone actually know what has become of Graychin? Dog … wassup with your blogging mate?

  239. Rabbit, one final thought on anonymity. It seems that educators are particularly worried about this stuff. If it’s high school and below, the fear is parents will find out something unsavory and drum a teacher out of his job. At college and up, it seems that there is peer pressure and college teachers are penalized for not towing a particular political line.

    Huck is a great example of someone who gave up blogging altogether to protect his career. Interestingly, Jim Dougan never seemed too worried about it. I don’t think he went to great lengths to protect his identity. I was his friend on Facebook so we knew each other’s real names long before he passed. Maybe his school was more tolerant or maybe it’s just easier to be a liberal educator?

  240. “Huck is a great example of someone who gave up blogging altogether to protect his career. Interestingly, Jim Dougan never seemed too worried about it.”

    Of course he didn’t worry about it. Why would he? Liberal ideas are accepted without question.

    It’s those of us who don’t participate in that group think who have to hide.

    I just got D+ on a critique of Wal-Mart because I didn’t tell the professor what the authors of that week’s readings would have thought of Wal-Mart.

    No shit.

    I asked him about it tonight. I said, all of the readings seem slanted.” The prof. replied without hesitation, “they are very slanted.” So I told him, “you don’t really want me to critique Wal-Mart, you just want me to tell you what these guys would say about Wal-Mart.” And he said, “yes, that is exactly what I want.”

    This is what I am paying tens of thousands of dollars for. To check my brain at the door and use big words to tell the professor what other people think.

    After tonight, I swear I am tempted to go back to digging fucking ditches for a living….

  241. Huck, I understand your frustration. One of my first college courses taught me the absolute opposite of what happened to you. It was an object lesson on academic dishonesty in which the instructor told us that plagiarism was only ONE example of academic dishonesty. He was just as concerned about students simply writing what they thought the professor wanted to hear instead of using their own brains.

    It was a great course. I started out getting C’s on my papers and finished the class with an A-. It’s actually my only claim to academic fame at Harvard was an A- in Expository Writing.

  242. “Speaking of which, does anyone actually know what has become of Graychin? Dog … wassup with your blogging mate?”

    He is occupied with more important things than reading drivel from regressive retards….

    But he does have some new posts on his blog.

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