The Best Campaign Ad of the Season

With less than a week to go before the midterm elections, I seriously doubt we will see another ad as effective as Jerry Brown’s latest knock out punch. As if Meg Whitman didn’t have enough problems throwing her former undocumented worker under the bus, she now has her own campaign ad used against her in the most delicious fashion imaginable.

Back when Scott Brown beat Martha Coakley, I said she deserved to lose. She was arrogant. She didn’t act like she needed folks to vote for her. She got her proper comeuppance. eBay CEO Whitman will get a similar wake up call next week. Her millions won’t buy her the Governorship. You need more than millions. You need a good campaign and Meg’s campaign has been an embarrassment, with this latest ad of her endorsing her opponent being the coup de grâce.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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148 thoughts on “The Best Campaign Ad of the Season

  1. “As if Meg Whitman didn’t have enough problems throwing firing her former undocumented worker under the bus as is required by law….”

    Edited for accuracy.

    “…what makes you think Meg will do any better than Arnold?”

    Arnold had no executive experience and had to find out the hard way that leading is difficult and that he was out of his league. Sound familiar?

    For the record, I’m not a big fan of Meg’s and am only entertaining the idea of voting for her because she isn’t Jerry Brown.

  2. California is toast….no matter who is elected. Let it stand as a monument to burnt out progressive politics. A statue and testimonial to the abject failure of Obama, Boxer, Pelosi, Brown, Rutherford and Graychin’s politics. No denying it.

    If it wasn’t for about 10MM good Conservatives still stuck in that one beautiful state, I’d be requesting we build a wall around it. The other surrounding states and those in the general vicinity need to prepare for the mass exodus of queers, parasites, illegals, drug runners, old hippies, STDs, mooches, leeches, drug heads, public works lackeys, failed educators,union thugs, and Charlie Manson wannabees. When the coffers run dry, they’re going to be looking for handouts elsewhere. They could f… up the whole southwest if we are not careful. Kick there asses back and let them rot.

    Hard to believe it was but a short 30 years ago, California provided possible the best Conservative President of the last 150 years.

  3. I see that Tex woke up on the wrong side of bed again this morning. His bed doesn’t seem to have a right side.

    Let’s see…. If California is toast, and if “as California goes, so goes the nation,” then…..

    At least when California decriminalizes marijuana, they’ll all be happy sitting in that handbasket on its way to hell. Who knows – maybe the taxes on marijuana will pull them out of their economic hole, if anyone can stay straight enough to add the numbers.

  4. Hard to believe it was but a short 30 years ago, California provided possible the best Conservative President of the last 150 years.

    You mean that guy who increased the national debt from 33.3% of GDP in 1980 to 51.9% at the end of 1988? The one who never proposed a smaller budget than the spending that he signed and approved? If he was running for office today, he wouldn’t be able to get past someone like Christine O’Donnell in the Republican primary.

  5. That Whitman/Brown ad is laugh-out-loud funny.

    A lot of former business executives have run for political office, but I can’t think of a single one offhand who made a successful governor. Or senator. The closest I can come is Mitt Romney of Romneycare fame. Who am I forgetting?

    One of my pet peeves is politicians who say they will “run government like a business.” It’s not the same thing at all. CEO’s have much more power over their organizations than governors have over state government. It’s that pesky “checks and balances” business.

    CEO’s have the sort of political skills that enabled them to climb to the top over the backs of others, as well as skills of self-promotion. (I’m talking about you, Carly Fiorina.) But that kind of political skill doesn’t translate well into the public arena, where the command to “jump” is not met with the response of “how high” but with the response of “screw you.”

    People like Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina would be smarter to donate their gazillions anonymously to an organization with a name like “Americans for Motherhood and Apple Pie” if they want to bend their country’s path towards the right. But that isn’t what the two gals that I mentioned want. It’s all about ego for them. Smartest girls in the room.

  6. Who knows – maybe the taxes on marijuana will pull them out of their economic hole, if anyone can stay straight enough to add the numbers.” – Chin

    How do you legally tax something that is a federal crime? In fact, if I was a liberal in Cali, I’d be nervous right now. With the likely takeover of the fed by the GOP this cycle and probably next cycle as well, California’s refusal to honor or enforce federal law will likely cost them a lot of money and probably more than a couple federal prosecutions.

    Imagine that, enforcing the law…

  7. Bitch, that’s karma…

    26 Oct 2010
    FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,734,000
    FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,720,000
    FOXNEWS GRETA 2,296,000
    FOXNEWS BAIER 2,284,000
    FOXNEWS SHEP 2,244,000
    FOXNEWS BECK 2,154,000
    MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,190,000
    MSNBC MADDOW 1,087,000
    MSNBC O’DONNELL 1,048,000
    MSNBC SCHULTZ 724,000
    CNNHN GRACE 670,000
    MSNBC HARDBALL 628,000
    CNN COOPER 591,000
    CNN KING 560,000
    CNNHN BEHAR 339,000

  8. Ape, you must have learned your sense of values the same place Tex did.

    I keep telling you guys – popularity does not imply merit. Just two words: Justin Bieber.

  9. “How do you legally tax something that is a federal crime?”

    Ask the Feds. They already tax the same marijuana that is illegal under federal law. Failure to pay the federal marijuana tax is the charge that usually gets piled on when someone is busted for marijuana.

  10. Graychin is still delusional He can’t even tell time anymore. I picture this old man walking around in his PJs, wondering “where am I?”

    We’re now down to covering the governor of California race? 😆 Listen, I could give a hoot about Meg Whitman – she’s not candidate of choice – definite RINO. I hate them. But if Californians are stupid enough to reelect the very clown that helped put them on the verge of bankruptcy, let them have it. They are clinically insane like you – and their largest cities are on the brink of chaos.

    I’ll give you an example of how badly you have failed BP. Less than 24 months ago, the “Catholic” vote swung 10 points in favor of Dimocrats. Now, the swing is 25 points toward Republicans. Like you, like California, like Obama, all of you have been rejected throughout this company. You’ve been exposed as fools and ignoramuses; liars and cowards.

    I happened to read the T-World today, always for free. And I noted that the incomparably stupid and phony Plante, the same Plante whose cartoon you grabbed to try and insult last week, is now whining about how we don’t understand BongoCare. Pitiful. I guess you just haven’t figured it out yet Graychin. Your enterprise is in the dink. NYT, Newsweak, MSM, your candidates, your record, your policies your outlook – burnt toast. I’m going to enjoy opening the windows to get rid of the smell, let in some fresh air, and throwing you in the trash.

    And I’m going to make you my personal teabaggee. I can hardly hold a thought waiting to dip the unit in your big mouth.

    You stay on message about the failure of Ronald Reagan. We’ll see if Bongo wins 49 states next time. I give it 50/50 he’s even the Dim candidate. You got Hillary Rotten waiting in the wings.

  11. ” California’s refusal to honor or enforce federal law will likely cost them a lot of money and probably more than a couple federal prosecutions.”

    Likely not.

    We’ve had medical marijuana on the books for years now. And all the federal threats haven’t amounted to much–even from a conservative administration.

    And you know that hypocrite Obama isn’t going to sue CA (which is fine by me) for preemption.

    In fact, Arnold just recently allowed us to start growing pot legally. And you haven’t heard Obama or Holder say a word, have you?

    And by the time they are gone, the country will be so deep in bullshit that CA’s pot laws will be about the last thing anyone is worrying about.

    “I keep telling you guys – popularity does not imply merit. Just two words: Justin Bieber”

    Barack Obama would be another good example.

  12. Gorilla,

    Graychin = pragmatist. 😈 Two disillusioned peas in a pod.

    Just remember, starting next Wednesday, Bongo becomes target #1. How did Bongo put it? “Punish our enemies.” It’s the best advice he’s given since he stunk up the White House when he and his hideous wife walked in the front door..

    I hope to make Bongo as miserable as Graychin in the coming months.

  13. Here’s another one of the biggest Lib lies foisted on the American public:

    Let’s see…. If California is toast, and if “as California goes, so goes the nation,” then…..

    ** GUFFAW **

    Like you, the days are numbered.

  14. Hey Rutherford,

    Stewart now refers to Bongo as “Dude”? 😛 Iran calls him incompetent? The Bongo presidential seal falls off the podium?

    President Homer Simpson.

  15. Speaking of campaign ads, why haven’t we seen anything about this issue?

    (Would-be Speaker John) Boehner has embraced the possibility of higher taxes, suggesting in a speech in Cleveland this summer that lawmakers should look at clearing out the “undergrowth of deductions, credits, and special carve-outs” in the tax code that are little more than “poorly disguised spending programs.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/26/AR2010102606764.html?hpid=topnews

    The “undergrowth of deductions, credits and special carve-outs” that Boehner would eliminate no doubt are the ones that benefit ordinary middle-class people. But watch for that sacred top marginal rate to stay low or get lower if Boehner has his way.

    Obama and the Democrats have cut EVERYONE’S taxes. Mr. Would-Be-Speaker says he will RAISE taxes. Why aren’t these facts generally known? Where are the Democratic campaign ads.

    I guess the truth doesn’t always fit on a bumper sticker.

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/includes/article/relatedphotos.aspx?articleID=20101028_63_A16_tworld278484

  16. Ape, you must have learned your sense of values the same place Tex did.” – Chin

    Civilized society? At least I have values.

    Let’s consider that on the 21st, she had 449,000 viewers and on the 22nd 385,000 viewers. Plus, let’s add the $150,000+ in money she “raised” for Angle. Behar said she wanted to see how much it raised for Reid. Ten to one says she’ll never say, because either 1) Reid didn’t raise anything from it or 2) he actually lost money from it. She’ll never acknowledge either.

    Ask the Feds. They already tax the same marijuana that is illegal under federal law. Failure to pay the federal marijuana tax is the charge that usually gets piled on when someone is busted for marijuana.” – Chin

    *** BULL SHIT FLAG ***

    Alright, prove it. I want to know what federal code tax’s marijuana. I want to see what charges have ever been levied for failure to pay federal taxes on marijuana.

  17. I guess the truth doesn’t always fit on a bumper sticker.

    Pitiful, isn’t it? Gut wrenching, really. I may even buy me a T-World for a few weeks just to watch Plante go through the stages of grief, then anger. Make a collage and frame it.

    Graychin, do yourself a favor and make yourself happy. Sell that lake home and you and the Mrs. buy yourself a place in Berkeley. You can still rag us on the net, you still got the water, great time to buy, you’ll be situated with the fools in academia, the hippie girls run around naked reminding you of better days, not a Conservative piece of white trash in site.

    Grab the grand kids and take them with you, so they dont’ get saturated with any God talk, and where they can mock Jesus with glee.

  18. As Rutherford wrote on a post some weeks back, there is a genetic reason that liberals are mentally deficient and clinically insane. They can all blame it on the variant of the DRD4 gene

    It was all those friends that saved them in childhood. Those you made Rutherford in theater playing Peter Pan and the Glee club singing “We are the World”; played chess in math club when you guys couldn’t make the football team, or the lib girls relegated to the smoke hole instead of cheerleader squad. 😛 All that social activism when the jocks were peeing down your leg, and you skipped back to be with the nerds, pinkos, flakes, fat girls, and puffs.

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/weird/Scientists-May-Have-IDd-Liberal-Gene-105917218.html

    That should put your mind to ease.

  19. B = W :

    I’m glad you stopped by to answer the obvious follow-up question.

    Since the federal marijuana tax was found to be unconstitutional, why aren’t state marijuana taxes also unconstitutional? Doesn’t the Fifth Amendment apply to the states as well?

  20. I can hardly hold a thought waiting to dip the unit in your big mouth.

    I suppose I take these conversations too literally but frankly I wouldn’t want to dip my appendages in the mouth of someone I didn’t like.

    I guess I’m just old fashioned that way. I was taught “love before sex”. 🙂

  21. These libs? 🙄

    Some of them are just now discovering what a nasty piece of work and phony Obama is when the curtain is pulled and the “wizard” exposed. I understand the Dullard CiC last night was fuming with the audience on Comedy Central. Obama’s enough of a showman that he holds it together but…

    Consider what Obama has said when he thought himself protected and tell me this isn’t Hugo Chavez, minus the military? Some of them nasty; some of the phony…but the man is clearly a goose stepper and megalomaniac.

    Bitter clinger speech, punish the enemies, hit them twice as hard, dear friends who’ve died whose names he can’t “recall”, favorite baseball team where he can’t name a player, can’t remember Rev. Wright ever saying anything over the top from the pulpit. WTH?

    Obama is a goon. Not only is this hack incompetent and a goon, he’s dangerous.

    Thank God we live in America. Thank God the military still believes in freedom. Maybe there still are more good people in America than bad. I’ve wondered. We’d be in a real world of trouble and living in fear right now if we weren’t living under check and balances.

  22. I guess I’m just old fashioned that way. I was taught “love before sex”.

    Is that why you seem obsessed with anal sex? Love? 🙂

    Figurative, my man. Figurative… no telling what has been in that mouth. 😈

  23. Mohammed is now the most popular name for baby boys ahead of Jack and Harry.

    Probably because about half of all Muslim boy babies seem get named “Mohammed.” I think that “Ali” (Mohammed’s cousin and son-in-law) is another very popular Muslim name. “Fatimah” (Mohammed’s daughter and wife of Ali) is a popular girl’s name, probably surpassing Elizabeth in popularity in Britain. But I see that neither Ali nor Fatimah made the Top Ten.

    For some odd reason, non-Hispanic Christians never found it fashionable to name their baby boys “Jesus,” but there are a whole lot of people named “Hay-soos” out there. No name of any one Christian figure is comparable to Mohammed for naming babies.

  24. Do gooder, politically correct NPR listeners (like Graychin) apparently have even managed to kill off Halloween. I thought it their high “holey” day?

    Tell me this doesn’t sound like the same shills (libs) running the public school system? Shrinks in the educational system for to provide counseling during tragedy?

    ——–

    Halloween taught marketers that parents are willing to be warned about anything, no matter how preposterous, and then they’re willing to be sold whatever solutions the market can come up with. Face paint so no mask will obscure a child’s vision. Purell, so no child touches a germ. And the biggest boondoggle of all: an adult-supervised party, so no child encounters anything exciting, er, “dangerous.”

    Think of how Halloween used to be the one day of the year when gaggles of kids took to the streets by themselves—at night even. Big fun! Low cost! But once the party moved inside, to keep kids safe from the nonexistent poisoners, in came all the nonsense. The battery-operated caskets. The hired witch. The Costco veggie trays and plastic everything else. Halloween went from hobo holiday to $6 billion extravaganza.

    And it blazed the way for adult-supervised everything else. Let kids make their own fun? Not anymore! Let’s sign our toddlers up for “movement” classes! Let’s bring on the extracurricular activities, travel soccer and manicure parties for the older kids. Once Halloween got outsourced to adults, no kids-only activity was safe. Goodbye sandlot, hello batting coach! . . . We can kill off Halloween, or we can accept that it isn’t dangerous and give it back to the kids. Then maybe we can start giving them back the rest of their childhoods, too.

  25. I wasn’t exactly thrilled when Jon Stewart called the POTUS “dude” but then again …. Summers did a “heckuva job”? WTF was Obama thinking?????

    When I saw that clip this morning all I could think was “this is the cherry on the sundae for Tex and the RL Blog Conservative Round Table” 😦

  26. Tex does seem to have a fascination with aberrant unusual sexual practices, doesn’t he? His obsession with Rachel Maddow’s sexuality is well documented – by Tex himself!

    Now we find him making references to this phenomenon of “teabagging” – which I never heard about until the Tea Party made jokes of themselves.

  27. Graychin, do yourself a favor and make yourself happy. Sell that lake home and you and the Mrs. buy yourself a place in Berkeley. You can still rag us on the net, you still got the water, great time to buy, you’ll be situated with the fools in academia, the hippie girls run around naked reminding you of better days, not a Conservative piece of white trash in site.

    Grab the grand kids and take them with you, so they dont’ get saturated with any God talk, and where they can mock Jesus with glee.

    Damn Tex …. you made that sound soooo good. Especially the nude hippie girls.

    Hurry up Gray …. I may beat you there! 😉

  28. Without reading any of the cases cited, Chin, I can only guess, and my guess is that either the defendants did not appeal the state court decisions, or if they did, review was denied, which would mean that the state court’s final ruling stands.

    But again, without doing the reading, this is only a guess.

  29. Since Tex is an avid reader of the Tulsa World, I’m sure he will have seen the story about some Oklahoma towns “officially” moving the celebration of Halloween to Saturday evening, Oct. 30. It seems that the primary motivation for this War on the Calendar is that Sunday evening has another dedicated purpose. It’s “church night” for the Baptists who dominate the landscape around here.

    Once again, Tex’s outrage is misplaced. I don’t know where he got his cut / paste about Halloween and safety-obsessed parents (he didn’t want to say), but I don’t know any parents like that. Do you? Does anyone?

    The main perpetrators of a War on Halloween aren’t liberals. They are the screwballs in some churches who see something Satanic when kids dress up in a sheet like a ghost or in a black pointed hat like a witch.

  30. “Sell that lake home and you and the Mrs. buy yourself a place in Berkeley.”

    Not a chance. I love the Bay Area. But I’m going to keep working until my dying day here in Oklahoma to save the unenlightened followers of Jim “flying ace” Inhofe and Tom “Dr. No” Coburn from their abysmal ignorance .

    I’m on a mission here – from God.

  31. B = W:

    Don’t flame me for saying this, but thanks for your opinion.

    It sounds like you agree that those state marijuana tax laws would also be likely to be found unconstitutional if appealed in the right venue.

    But if California taxes LEGAL marijuana, I don’t suppose that would raise the same Fifth Amendment issues.

  32. For some odd reason, non-Hispanic Christians never found it fashionable to name their baby boys “Jesus,” but there are a whole lot of people named “Hay-soos” out there. No name of any one Christian figure is comparable to Mohammed for naming babies.

    I’ve always found it curious that a religion that considers any pictoral representation of its prophet to be blasphemy has no problem with the children of its adherants bearing his name. But considering the primary goal is to bring everyone under its control, I guess it shouldn’t suprise me…there is something strangely Borg-like about it.

  33. Now we find him making references to this phenomenon of “teabagging” – which I never heard about until the Tea Party made jokes of themselves.

    I’ve never met such a lame and obvious liar. I have no idea when you heard it Plaque, but you damn sure love you use on the Two Useful Idiot’s Blog. Teabagging should be the address of WordPress it’s so flagrant.

    And it ain’t me wanting that’s also the big “proponent” of normalizing dipping the wick in another man’s rectum pervert.

    Not a chance. I love the Bay Area. But I’m going to keep working until my dying day here in Oklahoma to save the unenlightened followers of Jim “flying ace” Inhofe and Tom “Dr. No” Coburn from their abysmal ignorance .

    I’m on a mission here – from Satan.

    Well, you don’t appear to be having much of an effect Gray. In fact, just the opposite. Kind of the story of your life. 😉

  34. Don’t flame me for saying this, but thanks for your opinion.

    Nothing to flame. You asked, I gave the best answer I could without havig read the cases.

    It sounds like you agree that those state marijuana tax laws would also be likely to be found unconstitutional if appealed in the right venue.

    That’s one possibility. I note that my own state has its version of the 5th Amendment in its Constitution, which might cause one to wonder why a state would do that if the 5th Amendment applied to the states.

    The generally rule of thumb that I can recall is that a state can not run counter to federal constitutional guarantees, but they can extend them further. A case in point would be the concept of speedy trial here in Washington, which is very strictly enforced (or suspects go free) as opposed to some states where each step in the process could take months.).

    But if California taxes LEGAL marijuana, I don’t suppose that would raise the same Fifth Amendment issues.

    No, because on its face, the Fifth Amendment applies to criminal proceedings.

  35. The main perpetrators of a War on Halloween aren’t liberals. They are the screwballs in some churches who see something Satanic when kids dress up in a sheet like a ghost or in a black pointed hat like a witch.

    Typical. I’m not sure your reading skills that poor, or your just that messed up from too much avid National Politically Correct Radio and your dementia. Remember to make that quadruple donation.

    Read this closely numbnuts. It isn’t a war on Halloween per say that is the theme of the article. You screwing up Halloween for the kids is secondary. It’s the politically correctly, cowardly, dumb-downed, busy body, sticking your nose where it’s none of your business, elitism, pussification of children that you maggots have infested on society. Boys are now girls – girls are now dykes.

    Man, I hope you’re daughter isn’t like you. I’ll bet she is because your wife sounds like she’s a few screws short too. Double teamed like that, she never had a chance. “Double up that donation to the church of NPR honey! We’ll show those Baptist bastard!” I can hear it now.

    Better get those grandchildren to Berkeley before they turn on you Gramps.

  36. I have no idea the reliability of these polls, but if Gallup is right about the preference gaps, and a new poll I saw that has Barney “Elmer Fudd” Frank is really in danger of losing, this won’t be an immense victory – this is going to be a slaughter.

    I’ll believe it when I see it, because I know that Massachusetts Libs still have enough degenerates like the Graychin family and Yeller Dawg that the “Dig Up the Vote” crowd will be out in full.

    Damn, I would die laughing if that miserable POS Frank bit the bullet. Short of that pig Alan Grayson, Frank is the most despicable of the many despicable Libs sitting in Congress.

  37. “Huck did you live in CA back in the Brown days? Is the ad a lie or were things really good back in 1980?”

    I have lived here all of my 43 years, but in the 80’s I couldn’t have cared less about politics. Things were fine where I was and that was all I cared.

    And I didn’t watch the ad. I have been seeing these 2 go back and forth on my TV for weeks. Literally EVERY commercial break. I don’t need to see it on my Internet, too…lol.

    Maybe I’ll give it a look later.

    “But I see that neither Ali nor Fatimah made the Top Ten.”

    Probably because those figures inspired Shi’ism.

    “I’ve always found it curious that a religion that considers any pictoral representation of its prophet to be blasphemy has no problem with the children of its adherants bearing his name.”

    The issue with pictures has to do with idolatry. It is only supposed to apply to Muslims, and there is debate as to whether or not it even applies to them. That there is lots of historic Muslim art depicting Muhammad highly suggests that it doesn’t.

  38. GREAT STUFF!

    Finally, finally Conservative and Libertarians are learning to fight back. If George Bush had done this, if John McCain had done this, we would have never had to deal with the epic failure of a Jr. Senator and Marxist.

    Anyone remember the vicious and inept Loretta Sanchez, who entered office 14 years ago with stuffed ballot boxes from illegal immigrant votes? Remember this skank playing the race card on her Vietnamese Republican candidate Van Tram a few weeks back?

    Well Van is smarter than most Republicans. He’s fighting fire with fire. The absolutely best mailer I’ve ever seen in a political campaign. 😆 😆 Here’s a sampler of the stench that almost waffles through your screen if you close your eyes hard enough – from reading about it, it smells like (well, you boys can imagine!) 🙂 The enclosed scratch-and-sniff message is classic:

    Rutherford, you have managed to part of waking the sleeping giant. I give Obama one thing – he truly is our first post-American President and politics will never be the same.

    This is war now baby!!!!! 😈

  39. The worst President in the History of the United States, according to Liberals named George W. Bush, is now declared winner and still champion over Barack Obama – 48 to 43.

    http://politics.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2010/10/27/poll-most-want-obama-fired-in-2012

    Kind of like Republicans going the way of the Whigs and the Gray man telling me after the election Republicans were relegated to a regional party. 😈 😈

    Buwahahahahahahaahahahaha!

  40. I’m not buying it. Art depicting Muhammad is historically NOT common at all. I’m also going on a limb and guessing most of this art was Sufi in nature and/or in areas far from the middle east where Islam was heavily influenced by local color. Hell, the hatred of icons even temporarily rubbed off on the damn Greek Orthodox for shit’s sake, and those people love their stained glass!

    Hucking, sometimes I smell revisionist beer from the faculty keg on your breath.

    You college guys and your “exceptions to the rule ” fetish. Put it back in your holster, your knowledge is not a worthy weapon. That’s not to say its not interesting.

  41. By the way Graychin and Rutherford,

    After you’ve had your collective asses handed to you Tuesday night, assuming you can’t get out the Dig Up the Vote, illegal alien vote, votes from the car trunks, state campaigners forging signatures, and disenfranchising the military, plus all the rest of the dubious shit you’ve pulled for 20 years, consider this…

    60% of union members are angry that their union dues are used to back Dimocratic candidates – and without their permission.

    All those good Democrats that aren’t toads like you Graychin, like 30 years ago when all those Conservative Democrats left you for Reagan, you better wake up sport.

    Every day that goes by, your agenda pushes our country even further right. You both badly misjudged the message of 2008. I loving it – I just hope Rutherford recovers from the wave.

    You Graychin? I hope you and your pathetic friend Yeller Dawg continue to slowly drown in it. 😉

  42. Comment of the Day (concerning Broke Obama’s interview with Jon Stewart)

    How appropriate. A clown being interviewed by a clown. SEEKING out the interview. How low can you go? Will he ask for a reality show next? Will Moochelle try to have eight babies?

    But they have been kicking dignity in the teeth from day one, haven’t they? The flyover of the Statue of Liberty. A smoking room in the White House. The tacky manners, the embarrassing clothes. The dangling wrists. My God, they sent the bust of Winston Churchill back. He gave a gift of his own speeches. It’s all too stunning to even think about. The white house is the hood now.

    I know people say it’s possible to have no shame at all, but until now, I never thought it could be true. Even dogs can be embarrassed

    ** GUFFAW **

    The White HOOD!

  43. What, did you take a break from critical thinking, Rutherford? That ad is terrible…

    The lack of included context suggests that what she had to say before and after those comments isn’t as complementary to Jerry Brown as he, and you, would like us to believe.

    “I’m not buying it. Art depicting Muhammad is historically NOT common at all. ”

    Perhaps “common” was not the best term, but it certainly was not uncommon.

    Most of the art of Muhammad I have seen seems to have an eastern flavor. The people all have somewhat slanted eyes, so I figure it is by the eastern invaders that converted.

    I could show you some but I get tired of going through the hassle just so people can shit talk about Google searches. Do your own research if you really care to learn. Or live in ignorance. I don’t care.

    “You college guys and your “exceptions to the rule ” fetish.”

    Yeah. I guess it’s better to just use gross generalizations like you graduates who stop learning the second you get the teaching credential.

    And none of that does a thing to discount what I said about whether or not it even applies to Muslims, which was more to the point than the straw man you’re going after. Want to take that on or is the softball keg calling you?

  44. “Perhaps “common” was not the best term, but it certainly was not uncommon.”

    Fuck that. I didn’t even say “common,” I said “lots.”

    Argue against what I say not what you want me to say. You have Graychin for that.

  45. Signs of a confused man suffering from clear delusion…he loves to use this one particular piece of scripture he found – uses it on me all the time… This was included in an email sent to me tonight about somebody else that doesn’ care much for old Graychin after he continually lampooned her at an old site. Your pomposity gets around Gray. Seems you really made a lot of friends..😆

    Franklin Graham is no Billy Graham. I’ve listened to both. Billy’s message is positive and hopeful. I find Franklin’s message to be negative and ugly, defined more by what he is against than what he is for.

    “Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.” — 1 Corinthians 13:1-2 ~ Graychin 11/9/08 Tulsa World

    ————–

    Franklin Graham’s “lack of charity” – and please note Graychin, Franklin’s lack of charity receives the same 4 star rating as Doctors without Borders – those bastards, and 88% of their revenue goes directly to those who benefit.

    • Operation Christmas Child is a ‘global Christmas gift exchange’ project operated by Samaritan’s Purse. Each November it opens thousands of locations, typically at churches or schools, to collect shoeboxes filled with toys, school supplies, personal items, and other gifts. These are then distributed as Christmas gifts to millions of children each year. Gift boxes are collected in North America, Europe, and Australia. From 1993 through 2008, some 69 million gift boxes have been handed out in more than 130 countries.

    • Turn on the Tap is a campaign to provide safe drinking water in the developing world. Samaritan’s Purse-Canada holds the license to build BioSand Water Filters, which can provide a family with a perpetual source of safe drinking water. More than 600,000 people in 21 countries have benefited from these filters. Samaritan’s Purse also drills and repairs wells, sets up large-scale filters in disaster zones, and helps to educate communities in hygiene and sanitation.

    • HIV/AIDS Projects mobilize private, church, corporate, and government resources to respond to the AIDS pandemic. In 2002, Samaritan’s Purse organized Prescription for Hope, the first global conference on the Christian response to HIV/AIDS, which drew 900 workers from 87 countries to Washington, D.C. In partnership with the President’s Emergency Plan For AIDS Relief, Samaritan’s Purse is reaching 2 million youth in East Africa with education about the disease and abstinence-based prevention programs.

    What was that about lack of charity again? Great choice of scripture for your lack of faith (NOT).

  46. One question Tex … if we’re so good at stealing elections why are you so damned sure you’re gonna win next Tuesday.

    Because you and Mr. Pragmatic represent about 20% of the adult population. The other 80% hate your guts and your leader Broke Obama. Even you guys aren’t that proficient at theft. 🙂

  47. He he he he….

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, rapped by the White House for pledging to make Barack Obama a one-term president, seems to have the support of a majority of Americans. A new poll provided to Whispers says that 56 percent of likely voters want the president fired.

    But that personal favorability doesn’t translate into re-election support when voters are asked if Obama deserves a second term. Says Schoen: “Despite voters feelings toward Obama personally, 56 percent say he does not deserve to be re-elected, while 38 percent say he does deserve to be re-elected president.” Worse, Schoen adds, “43 percent say that Barack Obama has been a better president than George W. Bush, while 48 percent say Bush was a better president than Obama has been.

  48. Lol…the softball keg part did crack me up.

    I love busting the balls of motherfuckers in tweed jackets with those elbow patches.

    I think I shall strip Hucking of his jacket and stuff myself into it… only to flex, its worn tweed ripping Hulkster style. What a a great trophy the ripped garment will make representing both my physical and intellectual domination of Hucking.

    Dude, your claim that there is a debate within the Islamic world over icons is just wrong. You pointed out a historic anomaly, completely useless to any present day conversation on Islam.

  49. You call the Jerry Brown ad a personal attack? You’ve gotta be kidding. She said she wants to bring CA back to the good old days of Jerry Brown … so why not elect Jerry Brown?

    C’mon guys admit it … Jerry nailed her big time. It was sheer genius … and her loss next Tuesday will prove it. 😉

  50. I love busting the balls of motherfuckers in tweed jackets with those elbow patches.

    This must be some of that resentment of “elites” that we were talking about the other day. Either that or class warfare.

    What’s wrong with tweed jackets and / or elbow patches?

  51. Hey, its not that I’m anti-intellectual. Its just that I often times find intellectuals create smoking mirrors, skewing reality with their damn exceptions to the rule.

    Hucking was essentially claiming there is more then meets the eye when it comes Islam. I say fuck that. We don’t need specialists when it comes to the Muhammadens.

    Who cares if for a time, far East Muslims used icons? The motherfuckers go bonkers over icons. There isn’t meaningful diversity within Islam on this issue.

    Its a cool fact. But, Hucking is being Cliff from Cheers, nothing more.

  52. Rutherford, your tweed jacket would be so small I could only use it as a prop to transform my penis into a funny puppet.

  53. I’m happy to be the endless source of fascination for Tex that keeps him off the streets. He was perusing some old posts on my blog last night, and hours later he found what he was looking for in a post that I made two years ago at the Tulsa World.

    Yes, Franklin is indeed very charitable with other people’s money. He did use about 88% of his $308 million in revenue in 2008 (the most recent year for which information is available) for his program services, as opposed to administration and fundraising (only about $34 million for those). SP ended the year 2008 with about $68 million in the bank.

    Franklin himself received $534,772 in current and deferred compensation in 2008 according to forms filed with the IRS. It’s not a lot by the standards of Fortune 500 CEO’s, but no one ever said that doing the Lord’s work shouldn’t pay well.

    http://tfcny.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/581/581437002/581437002_200812_990.pdf

    But doesn’t charity mean more than holding a high-paying position giving away other people’s money? I’m no expert on biblical languages, but I often see the word “charity” as used in Corinthians translated as “love.” Franklin’s numerous hateful comments about Islam and Muslims put him well outside the mainstream of respectable Christianity, although I’m sure Tex stands behind Franklin Graham in every one of his hateful comments..

  54. Hey, its not that I’m anti-intellectual.

    I had you pegged long ago for being one of the biggest intellectuals around here. You hide it as best you can, but it ain’t foolin’ me.

    You know what Rabbit? You often remind me of a stage I went through back in 1983- 88 or so. Just got out of Harvard and was so tired of hearing everything talked to death. Everything worth consideration “I think monkey sex is an interesting alternative”. I was so glad to be in meat and potatoes corporate America I didn’t know what to do. But that got old after a few years. I realized that I had traded intellect for Corp dumb-f*cks who couldn’t manage their way out of a paper bag.

    Gotta strike a balance dude.

  55. “You call the Jerry Brown ad a personal attack? You’ve gotta be kidding. She said she wants to bring CA back to the good old days of Jerry Brown … so why not elect Jerry Brown?”

    Nope. Quit drawing hits from eh. . . Aqua Buddha, R. You gotta read the article. There’s some doozies.

    But I still don’t find the huge appeal of the Brown ad. It begs — nah, screams, for the context of the statements. I guess they count on people to be as lazy as me and accept its veracity.

    Still a little bothered about O’Donnell’s hairy bush. I would have expected that from witch — but O’Donnell?

  56. Hey, its not that I’m anti-intellectual…..

    And then, in the very same comment….

    Hucking was essentially claiming there is more then meets the eye when it comes Islam. I say fuck that. We don’t need specialists when it comes to the Muhammadens.

    Nothing anti-intellectual about that statement! 😀

  57. Contraire Brain Plaque,

    I actually didn’t precipitate this one. This started from another board you’ve polluted in the past – a hint. It’s a local one.

    I receive an email last night from one of you old “friends” you had made while at the T-World. Seems she knows you and forwarded a couple of comments you made that seem to dispute some of your current claims. We had a good laugh at your expense.

    Which peaked my interest in exactly when The Great Spot (good thing you didn’t name it “Popular Spot”, or it would have been even more a misnomer) was created. It was indeed me that perused your first posts out of curiosity. It’s less popular today that it was in one year ago, only because then it had three frequent guests instead of two. 😈

    While there I gathered a little ammo. Out of curiosity, did you mom ever get over her irrational fear of black men? :

  58. I often see the word “charity” as used in Corinthians translated as “love.” Franklin’s numerous hateful comments about Islam and Muslims put him well outside the mainstream of respectable Christianity, although I’m sure Tex stands behind Franklin Graham in every one of his hateful comments..

    Is it hate to provide “some 69 million gift boxes have been handed out in more than 130 countries?” You seem to confuse “hate” with “truth” more times than I can count. Hate to you Brain Plaque is when someone doesn’t agree with your perception of reality.

    Make sure you stick around on November 3rd. I want to remind you of some of your own version of “truth.” 🙂

  59. Other moments of Graychin’s “love” or is it “lovely” nature on display for the world. Now you know why I hold this reprehensible mofo in such contempt, with the thought one day I’m going to repay this bastart for the shit he has said to people. I’ve been getting my chance since he was stupid enough to follow me here. It’s been joyous. Thank you Rutherford.

    Here’s one where Graychin actually insults a young man who died in a traffic accident (his first egregious comment is deleted), and the responses that follow. Unfortunately, the family members caught up with him.

    lrutherford, Louisville
    Graychin- I’d like to punch you in the face right now. Get a life. What a rude and hurtful comment to post.

    James is my little brother and he will be GREATLY, GREATLY missed. I’m so sad he had to leave us this early 😦

    You’ll note the wooden man when confronted with bodily harm quickly takes a dive. 😆

  60. I receive an email last night from one of you old “friends” you had made while at the T-World. Seems she knows you and forwarded a couple of comments you made that seem to dispute some of your current claims. We had a good laugh at your expense.

    You mean I have ANOTHER “secret admirer” besides you! I’m flattered!

    Seriously, I think I know who you’re talking about. I can only think of one female that description would fit. (I pissed off a LOT of men in my time there, but not so many women.) “E” is a bit of a psycho, so watch your back. Apparently she carries a grudge for a long, long time. Hell hath no fury….

    I was going to be pissed about you posting that person’s comment without posting the link to the whole conversation. Grieving people can be angry and irrational. For some regulars here, that’s a good hair day.

  61. While there I gathered a little ammo. Out of curiosity, did you mom ever get over her irrational fear of black men?

    You’re obviously a class act, Tex.

    Yes, I am. 😉

    Just got me thinking maybe you and Broke NObama could possibly be related in more ways than politics…

  62. King of the Keyboard Cowboys. Greychin. Nice timeliness when it comes to your obvious soapbox on drunk driving.

    So, did you tell the family the boy deserved to die?

    Sociopath Greychin can’t even begin to grasp the loss that family was going through. Nope, it was time to finger wag.

  63. Well two things … why the hell did the family have to be named “Rutherford”? Keep me out of this! 😉

    Second …. did anyone bother to notice in the comments thread that Gray apologized?

    While we’re at it, did anyone bother to notice that the assh*le cop told the press that the victim had alcohol on his breath? What kind of dipsh*t says something incriminating about a dead man to the press without the benefit of autopsy to determine blood alcohol level?

    Sorry boys, your rage, as usual, is misdirected. If the dude was drunk, then the comment that I can only infer Gray made was thank goodness the irresponsible jerk only killed himself. At worst, Gray just picked the wrong venue to make the comment.

    I can’t prove this scientifically but it seems that whenever a drunk driver comes in contact with someone else, he lives and the other one dies. No justice in that, if you ask me.

  64. Holy crap. I finally got around to reading the Gawker piece. Have we really sunk so low that we now have to write about the GOP candidate having a hairy pussy? It never even got that bad for Sarah!

    We live in odd times my friends.

  65. And my 4 year old daughter picked out a lady bug costume for Halloween. For real.

    (R, don’t you dare say what you think might compliment the costume. . . )

  66. I thought everyone might get a small kick out of this: Tomorrow Obama will be in Bridgeport, CT doing a campaign thing. The emcee will be Russell Simmons the head of Def Jam records.

    An hour ago I got an SMS message on my phone from Organizing for America reminding me about the event. It read (emphasis added by me)

    Don’t miss tomorrow’s Moving America Forward rally with President Obama and emcee Richard Simmons

    ROTFLMAO Jeesh they can’t even get SMS messages right and they think they can hold the House on Tuesday? Sad sad sad.

  67. I didn’t see the apology, R. I’m actually relieved to have read Greychin’s late apology. While he must have known he was finger wagging people who knew the guy who died, I doubt he realized he was lecturing the immediate family members. Greychin’s first response to the brother was more finger wagging though, which was pretty fucked up. But, he did apologize as I now will do so myself for not at least acknowledging it.

    Greychin, what did you say that got removed?

  68. Well Tigre, think about this for a minute. In the time line of events who made the more egregious mistake? The cop could have kept his fat mouth shut, the implication would never have appeared in the article, and Gray would have had nothing to comment upon. We used to do a thing in the data center called “root cause analysis”. Assuming the driver was sober, the cop is at the root cause of any slander that occurred.

  69. The Obama-Richard Simmons Deal a Meal Plan. Eat what ever the fuck you want and make your grandson run on a treadmill.

  70. The Obama-Richard Simmons Deal a Meal Plan. Eat what ever the fuck you want and make your grandson run on a treadmill.

    ROTFLMAO. Rabbit, I don’t usually agree with your politics but you are one funny motherf*cker! 😀

  71. Well Tigre, think about this for a minute. In the time line of events who made the more egregious mistake? The cop could have kept his fat mouth shut, the implication would never have appeared in the article, and Gray would have had nothing to comment upon. We used to do a thing in the data center called “root cause analysis”. Assuming the driver was sober, the cop is at the root cause of any slander that occurred.

    No, no, no,no.

    First of all, reporting such observations is not beyond the pale. Part of the cop’s job is to report, and I didn’t see anything in the article reporting evidence to the contrary.

    Secondly, I believe that Chin probably didn’t think about what an immediate family member might think of his remarks. While we all like to think we clould show the appropriate sensitivitywhen commenting on a forum where the family might read, I can certainly see where anyone of us might screw the pooch and dine on a foot without the benefit of proper preparation.

    Third, that doesn’t excuse from owning a comment made in such a forum. The Chin stepped up and offered an apology when his focus was redirected, and it wasn’t a mealy-mouthed attempt to mea culpa while placing the blame elsewhere. I respect that.

  72. Rabbit @ 87:

    Funny that you should call me King of the Keyboard Cowboys.

    Keyboard Cowboy was Tex’s screen name at the Tulsa World before they booted him off their site.

    Now THAT is an insult that stings.

  73. “The cop could have kept his fat mouth shut, the implication would never have appeared in the article, and Gray would have had nothing to comment upon.”

    Who’s fat mouth? But for the cop, G-chin wouldn’t have had the need open his his fat self-righteous mouth to lecture people about something he nothing of? I see his “apology” to the “angry and irrational” family for his profound wisdom on the subject was really heartfelt.

    The responses from the family members don’t support the innocent construction you place on it R. If it did, I doubt the comment would’ve been deleted. Given the stupid shit G-chin is willing to say about others’ families here, I am sure it was a gem.

  74. Rutherford, you ever notice you’re so hard up for friends, you’ll excuse the most egregious shit? Lame, man.

    I didn’t booted from T-World Brain Plaque. They told me the same thing they told you – that I was too harsh, or too opinionated, or something like that. Same thing they told you Brain Plaque.

    Unlike you betting a suck up and pussy, you left some wormy message saying you wouldn’t be back.

    My response to the web master was “YOU AND YOUR LIBERAL PAPER CAN SHOVE IT. TELL MIKE JONES AND BRUCE PLANTE THEY CAN KISS MY ASS!”

    So they told me that my “Keyboard Cowboy” name was revoked and asked if I wanted to leave record. Seriously. 🙂

    I can’t remember what I told that Jason faggot that runs the place, but whatever it was, I was deleted from record.

  75. I didn’t say anything nasty about your mammy. You did BP. 😈 I just repeated what you said. You dissed Mommy Dearest and I thought it funny, almost surprised you’d admit your mom was racist to the core. Self-incrimination. 😆

    I’ve got to admit, reading back thru your self righteous, sanctimonious crap at that board was both retching and comical. And that blog has got to have the dumbest crop of libs that ever dominated a board. They have no earthly idea they’re outnumbered 10-1 on the street. They’ll really shit their pants come next Wednesday.

    I may stop in under another name just to pull their strings and remind Mike Jones he’s a moron Did you know I pissed old editor Mike Jones off so bad, he referred to my comments two Sunday editions in a row? Smoked his ass for free!!!! 😆

    Payback for 30 years of his published lying.

  76. BTW, I assume by now everyone has heard about the explosives found in cargo. I assume you’ll all blame Obama for that too.

    Not me. I don’t blame Obama – it’s his brother’s fault.

    Satan Obama…

  77. Do we now know who this scumbag is that dropped this phony story about O’Donnel?. He looks like he could suck a golf ball through 50ft of garden hose.

    Dustin Dominiak? I say someone put a bullseye on the back of his skull. Were Christine O’Donnell my daughter and he made some crap up this vile, this punk wouldn’t see tomorrow.

    That’s a promise…

    When did pubic hair become a turn off? I guess I’ve been out of the market for too long. 🙂

  78. Tex, I think it’s awesome that your old school and dig the bush. So don’t get me wrong. But the triangle has been out for about 2 decades now, man.

    Now, the Rabbit loves to bite into a peach. But what he really likes is the skinny, rectangle landing strip.

  79. Well the old world may be dead
    Our parents can’t understand
    But I still love my parents
    And I still love the old world

  80. Tex, I think it’s awesome that your old school and dig the bush. So don’t get me wrong. But the triangle has been out for about 2 decades now, man.

    😆 Sounds like little girl fetish to me. I can’t believe women would take the time beyond the bikini line. Havng to prep myself for a vasectomy was bad enough. It was worse when the assistant pulled out a straight line razor to “clean ya up a little.” I held my breath for five minutes with my legs in the stirrups.

    I”ve got a TV big enough that I can count the ingrown hairs. Tried it out one night out of curiosity when mom took off. Works great off the PC 😈

    Which leads to another question. How do porn dealers stay in business anymore when anything imaginable is free, and why would anybody need a subscription to a dirty channel?

    Shoot, if I had chosen to be an OBGYN, I wouldn’t have had to leave the living room to see a 24″ wide cervix.

  81. “How do porn dealers stay in business anymore when anything imaginable is free, and why would anybody need a subscription to a dirty channel?” -Tex

    I wonder the same thing.

    I’ve never been a porn guy, for the most part. More of a memories guy. Except I create an alternative universe where I do everything right this time around, including but not limited to lasting more then 3 minutes.

    I once has two sexy Norwegian chicks making out with me all night in Reykjavik. You would think this turned out great but of course I was foiled again. So, in my alternative universe, I STOP buying them shots, one of them DOESN’T”T end up on the floor of the bar puking and I DO go home with them. Beats porn anyway.

  82. Given the stupid shit G-chin is willing to say about others’ families here, I am sure it was a gem.

    Tiger, I’ve never said anything derogatory here about the family members of anyone who comments here. And I don’t believe I’ve even said any “stupid shit” about your families.

    Never.

    I’m even pretty light on families of politicians – lighter than most of you. But I’m sure I made reference to the “Wasilla Hillbillies” at least once or twice. Mea fucking culpa.

    You’ve got all weekend to prove me wrong. I’ll expect your apology on Monday morning.

    I think I’ve figured out that all of you “conservatives” don’t like me. (Understatement alert!) Someone like me makes you uncomfortable in your little thought bubbles. But I really do get annoyed when you don’t like me for things I never said and never believed.

    You know, maybe it isn’t really me that you dislike. Maybe it’s just simple resentment of people in tweed coats with elbow patches, or of those legendary Volvo-driving, latte-sipping, arugula-eating, NPR-listening people who aren’t “real” Americans (according to your heroes). Of course I’m none of those things, but what difference does that make. To you – none, since all of you – ALL OF YOU – think in stereotypes. (Well – I DO listen to NPR.)

    But it’s nice to be useful. Being a proxy for all your resentments is a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.

  83. I know this is exactly the response you want from me, and surely you will use it against me.

    But, damn you’re a dramatic fag.

  84. I swear in the next life, if I’m not a rock singer, I’ll be either a sex behavior researcher or maybe a porn actor.

    Ahhhh Rabbit, if I only I had the experience and recall ability that you have. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in monogamy but a part of me sure does like the idea of a little variety. Fortunately, I love my wife, I lack the opportunity, and if I had the opportunity I’d crap my pants. So my only form of “dalliance” is the occasional RedTube video.

    Which brings me to another point on which we all agree. Why on God’s earth would anyone buy pay-per-view porn (or actually go through the indignity of renting from a store) when there is so much free stuff available?

    Tex … it is indeed a “little girl fetish”. They’ll take a petite 22 year old with close to non-existent boobs, shave her and pass her off for who knows what age. That’s one reason why I find our society incredibly hypocritical when it comes to “robbing girls of their innocence”. Young girls get sexualized on TV and other venues all the time (anyone remember Jon-Benet Ramsey?) Then we wonder why pedos are running around. They get no shortage of arousing input from all around them.

    Yup leave it to me to take a great conversation about bush and ruin it with a sociology lecture. 👿

  85. “Maybe it’s just simple resentment of people in tweed coats with elbow patches”

    I resent that, I like Hucking.

    I sip lattes.

    Whats “arugula”?

  86. “if I had the opportunity I’d crap my pants.”-Rutherford

    Damn…you are a kinky motherfucker. I’m not into that stuff.

  87. Both you and Tex are way too Freudian over shaved pussy, by the way.

    Oh, don’t get me wrong. 😆 Freudian… 😆 Man, I’m not that complicated.

    Having two teenage girls kind of changed my ‘Freudian’ stance on porno. Nobody had a better libido that me in my time, but about the time I hit 40, some of that cooled. Kind of figured out it doesn’t vary that much from one to the next.

    I’d still have a concubine if my wife would let me – but I think after about 15 years of marriage, I finally figured out what true love is. My wife is not only my partner, the mother of my two gorgeous and smart daughters, but my best friend. I don’t even allow myself to get tempted anymore.

    However…

    Like you Rabbit and BiC,I do have one hell of a vivid imagination, when those rare times it’s required.

  88. Rutherford, on this one you and I completely agree.

    Tex … it is indeed a “little girl fetish”. They’ll take a petite 22 year old with close to non-existent boobs, shave her and pass her off for who knows what age. That’s one reason why I find our society incredibly hypocritical when it comes to “robbing girls of their innocence”.

    One of the reasons porn started to turn me off quickly (as an adult), though I’ll admit it is titillating, is the way the “girls” were treated. You know damn well most of these young women are from sad stories and broken homes. Many are probably on drugs. I’ve never met a woman yet, and there was a time, that wanted to be used like that. I’m sure there out there, but they’re imbalanced to say the least.

    I read an article that said some of these “lolita” types are no more than 16 – it sickened me. You’re 40 and you want to be treated like dirt and physically destroyed, that’s your business. You’re 22 and still young and dumb, no way. We ought to cane a bunch of these scumbags that produce these. They prey on weak women.

    That experiment with the PC really was out of curiosity to see if I could get it to work. My buddy and I felt like giggling school boys.

  89. Graychin,

    I think I’ve figured out that all of you “conservatives” don’t like me. (Understatement alert!) Someone like me makes you uncomfortable in your little thought bubbles. But I really do get annoyed when you don’t like me for things I never said and never believed.

    SNORT!!!!

    Let me explain something to you – in all seriousness. And I think I speak for the majority here. You are misguided in your perceptions.

    We all know you’re not a stupid man. But you’re not brilliant as you attempt to present yourself either. You are a completely humorless ass – and you need to admit you like the fight so don’t play victim. You’re neither practical or fair, and your blog rank propaganda of the absolute lowest order

    For me, I don’t care for people who mock Christianity while posing themselves loosely as some Christian – and then go seeking out the weakest or dumbest in the crowd to mock and make example of what you’d like people to believe of Christians. I take that real personal.

    Personally, I think you enjoy the scorn in some perverse way.

  90. and then go seeking out the weakest or dumbest in the crowd to mock and make example of what you’d like people to believe of Christians. I take that real personal.

    As well you should.

    When you say that I “go seeking out the weakest or dumbest in the crowd to mock and make example of what I’d like people to believe of Christians,” were you referring to yourself or to Franklin Graham?

    It isn’t my wish that so many Christians would practice the exact opposite of the teachings of Jesus. On the contrary. It’s just a sad fact that so many do, and those are the ones that I mock. It really annoys me when those very un-Christian people claim superiority to the rest of us for their supposedly life-changing Christianity. You don’t see me mocking people who actually try to follow in Jesus’ footsteps.

    “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.” – G. K. Chesterton

    Some un-Christian “Christians” even have the gall to call others “inherently evil” or “of the devil.” Franklin Graham comes to mind, among others. Jesus surely knew what he was talking about when he used language like that, but I don’t believe that you and Franklin are in that league.

  91. Personally, I think you enjoy the scorn in some perverse way.

    No, I don’t. But do I enjoy the debate. Hateful as the comments here can get, you guys are more intelligent than the average “conservatives.” More intelligent that Droopy (Tulsa World) or Elrick, for example.

    To engage in the debate, I have to put up with the venom that I know is going to come with the territory when I debate “conservatives.” I don’t get why you find all that venom to be necessary. Either it’s because I make you really, really uncomfortable, or because you are all just hateful assholes to begin with. For most of you, I think it’s the former.

    Tex, why would you find it necessary to troll through my vast history of comments looking for “ammunition” when I’m right here almost every day? Yes, my mother is a bigot, as are a high percentage of people born in those times. So what? What’s it to you, Tex? What’s up with that?

  92. Graychin,

    As well you should.

    Then don’t expect to treated with a bit of respect.

    When you say that I “go seeking out the weakest or dumbest in the crowd to mock and make example of what I’d like people to believe of Christians,” were you referring to yourself or to Franklin Graham?

    Neither. Franklin Graham’s record speaks for itself. No need to defend him. I simply posited those facts for those who may not know. Thirty years ago, it would have been his daddy Billy Graham. And frankly, I don’t even find you that difficult a challenge in an open forum. Those I referred to that you preyed were on the lame T-World board. You went seeking for the dummies and you found them. You’re a garden variety Christian bigot, raised by profoundly ignorant bigots, who moonlight and specialize as Christian bigots. What I don’t understand, is why they’ve probably spent their entire lives in the middle of “idiot” Christians? Or why you have, for that matter.

    It isn’t my wish that so many Christians would practice the exact opposite of the teachings of Jesus. On the contrary. It’s just a sad fact that so many do, and those are the ones that I mock.

    In order to effectively mock, requires you to know something about “real” Christianity. I don’t think you have the wisdom to mock, nor do I find you having a clue who Christ is. You deny His divinity, His sacrifice, and His claims. You’re clever enough to mock the weak people and nothing else – certainly not the message or maker. That takes neither courage or talent.

    You don’t see me mocking people who actually try to follow in Jesus’ footsteps.

    🙄 You measure men who claim Christ by the perfection of Christ; not the imperfection of man. Your judgment is based on politic, not scripture. I claim no superiority; I simply claim to proclaim Christ as King. You don’t.

    “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.” – G. K. Chesterton

    That may sound clever, but I think you will find many who not only tried but succeeded. Chesterton was a clever man, but not so clever that he was the only one that “found it.” Hubris…

  93. For the record, and I don’t care how many good deeds his name is associated with, Franklin Graham is an ass of the first order, a man who gets his talking points about Islam from the likes of Robert Spencer rather than do the heavy lifting to learn about other religions and the present day practice of them. He’s an ignorant man.

  94. For the record, and I don’t care how many good deeds his name is associated with, Franklin Graham is an ass of the first order, a man who gets his talking points about Islam from the likes of Robert Spencer rather than do the heavy lifting to learn about other religions and the present day practice of them. He’s an ignorant man.

    Laughable. Franklin Graham understands the intent of Islam understands the intent of the real submission, understands the prophetic nature of what is to come, and frankly has forgotten more about Islam than you’ll ever know.

    That was an ignorant comment…and Robert Spencer is right.

  95. I think I’ve figured out that all of you “conservatives” don’t like me. (Understatement alert!) Someone like me makes you uncomfortable in your little thought bubbles. But I really do get annoyed when you don’t like me for things I never said and never believed.

    I’m not sure that I’d say I don’t like you.

    You certainly don’t make me uncomfortable…in a “thought bubble” or outside of one. On the contrary, I find that debating with people like you often helps me to refine my own conclusions and viewpoints, and in that respect, when you aren’t an object lesson, you make a good foil.

    I am occaisionally irritated by you, especially when you make your pronouncements of what you “think” or what you “believe” when you can offer little or nothing to back it up, and as a result, I find it a blessing that the RIAA cannot charge us royalties for songs playing in our heads, because when you do make such pronouncements, Steely Dan’s Only a Fool Would Say That starts playing in my head.

  96. “Laughable. Franklin Graham understands the intent of Islam understands the intent of the real submission, understands the prophetic nature of what is to come, ”

    That is a version of “Christianity” that is well worth mocking. It’s religion that appeals to hate and fear, not hope and love. Anyone who is silly enough to believe that Franklin Graham’s words are “prophetic” is even sillier to believe that admonitions to hate our “enemies” come from Jesus.

  97. Repost for Tiger’s benefit:

    ********************

    Given the stupid shit G-chin is willing to say about others’ families here, I am sure it was a gem.

    Tiger, I’ve never said anything derogatory here about the family members of anyone who comments here. And I don’t believe I’ve even said any “stupid shit” about your families.

    Never.

    I’m even pretty light on families of politicians – lighter than most of you. But I’m sure I made reference to the “Wasilla Hillbillies” at least once or twice. Mea fucking culpa.

    You’ve got all weekend to prove me wrong. I’ll expect your apology on Monday morning.

    ********************

    If Tiger overlooks my challenge, I promise to keep reminding him.

  98. Anyone who is silly enough to believe that Franklin Graham’s words are “prophetic” is even sillier to believe that admonitions to hate our “enemies” come from Jesus.

    This is why I think you such a profoundly stupid man Graychin. You don’ t even understand the very basics.

    Franklin Graham is not the prophet. He is simply noticing the same things I am. I don’t think truth equates with hate, but mock if you want. You should have learned a great lesson three weeks back, but you didn’t, confirming from me what I already knew about you.

    And Tigre, I’ll be glad to help give Mr. Pragmatist a reminder that he is lying through his teeth but will give you the chance to slap him if you need to – no need to apologize.

  99. G-chin, I think you are a first rate ass. I have no interest in sifting through your blathering to prove you wrong.

    Maybe it’s your sanctimonious bullshit or lame resort to smug name calling as a substitute for logic. Like when you accused me of being racist and made some comment about the black members of family that had “married in.” Oh, that’s not a comment about “my family,” it’s a comment about me, right? Why don’t you try an honest assessment of what you were really saying — like whatever judgment you gave yourself license to pass on the boy that was killed in the crash.

    While you’re at it, why don’t you man up and explain your comment about my family without your usual efforts to reconstruct the meaning because your were called to task. You know, like you did with the boy that was killed in the accident? Rutherford shouldn’t have to jump in and defend your remorseless commentary. Do it yourself you gutless douche bag.

    G-chin, more than anyone I have had the displeasure of having encountered, you are truly what you claim to hate. No one here fears you, or seems to really respect you — other than Rutherford, and it ain’t because of your intellect, wisdom or experience like you probably delude yourself into actually believing.

  100. I retract what I said in #125 about Graychin not being stupid – the more I thought about it, stupid is exactly the word I use to describe the man in conjunction with pompous.

  101. Whoops:

    Ball’s in you court G-chin.

    Just kidding, you can take the same advice you dispense so frequently here and just go fuck yourself.

  102. Tigre,

    G-chin, I think you are a first rate ass. I have no interest in sifting through your blathering to prove you wrong.

    No need to sift. As recently as this week, the idiot was mocking my daughter through me 3rd party because – and get this – she decided not to pursue that highest of all liberal ed awards for Rhodes Scholar after being asked.

    Graychin is a deluded and lonely old man. Just treat him like I do – the clown on the dunk tank. And here, the balls to hit the bulls eye are free.

  103. Imagine that. It wasn’t hard to locate. I guess that means G-chin is stuck with whatever hurtful comments he made about about that boy that were deleted.

    Still waiting for your explanation G-chin. . .

  104. I have no interest in sifting through your blathering to prove you wrong.

    You accuse me of trashing people’s families, and you can’t come up with a single example from memory? Case closed. I didn’t really expect you to “man up” and apologize. That would require body parts that you lack.

    In no way did I mock Tex’s daughter for declining to apply for a Rhodes Scholarship. I did consider the irony of one of Tex’s offspring walking the path of Bill Clinton and Rachel Maddow after he brought the subject up on this blog. That was offensive? As for Tex, people who live in glass houses….

    Since you missed it, I will say again that Rutherford’s speculation about my deleted comment on the Tulsa World website was exactly right. A young man had been killed in a one-car wreck on a local road late on a Saturday night, apparently while driving drunk. All I said in the comment was that I was glad he hadn’t taken anyone else with him. I remain glad that he didn’t kill anyone else. I remain sorry that I hurt that family member’s feelings in his time of grief.

    But talk about political correctness – if the kid had taken out a family of four on that Saturday night but lived, our Oklahoma crowd would have been carrying torches and yelling “give him the needle.”

    Tiger, I know that I have alluded to your racism. I can’t remember all the circumstances, but I will stand by what I said on every one of those occasions and state here for the record that in every case you had it coming. No apology from me.

    As for your “black family member” to whom you once alluded vaguely, what I meant was that it’s got to be a family member by marriage, because there is no way that you are any less lily-white than I am. No way at all. Not with your attitudes.

    Did I touch all the bases?

  105. “You accuse me of trashing people’s families, and you can’t come up with a single example from memory?”

    I did you dumb fuck.

    “I will stand by what I said on every one of those occasions and state here for the record that in every case you had it coming. No apology from me.”

    I never asked for an apology from you. You are the one asking for apologies. I think you are just being “angry and irrational” — oh, but in an apologetic way you remorseless prick.

    “Did I touch all the bases?”

    Nope. Your explanation is a crock of shit “Mr. Scary Black Man.” And it’s not My black family member — it’s the several, including my nieces and nephews brothers and in-laws that you accuse me of hating. Your sanctimonious b.s. is tired. I am not racist, never have been, and have chosen to raise my children in a culturally, racially mixed (mostly African American) neighborhood. I don’t need to hear from an intellectual midget like you about my “attitudes” or “Lilly whiteness” which you haven’t in any way whatsoever bothered to ascertain. Prorbaly like whatever accusation you saw fit to level against the boy that was killed.

    By contrast, you are a dumb hick from Oklahoma that thinks it’s his place to pass judgment on individuals he’s never met, concerning personal matters he has no knowledge of, with every expectation that your assessment be accepted with absolutely no reason that they should. You are the very definition of a blow hard.

    You are welcomed to call me racist and my family members whom I love dearly Uncle Toms all you want. You are little, little man screaming to be acknowledged, and everyone here knows it.

    I don’t believe for a minute that your after-the-fact adoption of Rutherford’s statement is accurate. You have simply repeated what was left on the board, not what was deleted. I know that when one of the “angry and irrational” family members said they wanted to punch you in the face it was gem. Did you feel big after you made them, like you did when you called me a racist?

    You are what you hate. Of that I am sure.

  106. “I don’t believe for a minute that your after-the-fact adoption of Rutherford’s statement is accurate. You have simply repeated what was left on the board, not what was deleted. I know that when one of the “angry and irrational” family members said they wanted to punch you in the face it was gem.”

    Believe what you want. It makes no difference to me.

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