The Smart Get Dumb and the Dumb Get Smart

The Smart Get Dumb

Despite the right’s obsession with the unavailability of Barack Obama’s college records, I don’t think it is a stretch to say he is smart man. So I’m left scratching my head at the way he is handling the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. A month has gone by and oil is still gushing into the Gulf, making its way around the tip of Florida. Kentucky Senatorial candidate  Rand Paul said that it was un-American for Obama to criticize BP. Rand zigged when he should have zagged. The only thing inappropriate about the President’s response has been the lack of response. Everyone is avoiding comparisons to Katrina but I’m sorry folks, if this isn’t Obama’s Katrina, I don’t know what it is.

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  • We’re a month into this crisis and Washington is still letting BP take the lead. BP’s idea of solving the problem is to use dispersal chemicals that do nothing to clean up the mess but make it harder to actually measure the amount of oil spilled …. convenient when law suit time comes and damages need to be tied to the amount of oil spilled.
  • The Minerals Management Service (MMS) under the Department of the Interior has got to be the most corrupt government department known to man. Their complete abdication of oversight is unforgivable. What should have happened by now? The department should have been dismantled by executive order with every employee thrown out on their ass. Yet from what I’ve heard, new drilling permits are being approved despite Washington’s claim that there is a moratorium on permits.
  • When Obama has the choice to go to Louisiana and get down and dirty with the problem solvers, he is going to a California political fundraiser instead. While the blind loyal sheep may forgive him his pattern of poor optics, I cannot. Until Obama gets front and center on this problem, he is George W. Bush redux.

About the only satisfaction that a liberal can get out of this ham-fisted approach to problem solving is that conservatives are caught in a catch-22. Clearly private industry is incompetent at getting this problem solved. The knee-jerk reaction of the right should be to hammer Obama for lack of action. But here is the rub … this is the same bunch of people who call for minimal government because “government can’t solve problems.”  So I guess, we’ve got ourselves in a real bind. The government does next to nothing productive and the problem persists. But according to our friends on the right, once the government gets involved they will screw it up anyway.

The Dumb Get Smart

One of the most brain-dead politicians in these United States showed signs of cranial activity on Monday. Michele Bachmann, the same idiot who said we should fear census takers because the census would lead to internment camps, actually exercised some restraint this week. After gloating last week to Sean Hannity about Rand Paul’s win in Kentucky, Ms. Bachmann must have taken stock of the situation post-Rand-civil-rights-fiasco and changed her tune.

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“I’m not commenting on Rand Paul,” she told reporters for the Star Tribune at the State Capitol. “I’ve got to focus on my race. . .I’m not going to focus on Rand Paul.”

via Bachmann: Not talking about Rand Paul — this week | StarTribune.com.

Unlike her Alaskan soul sister Sarah, Bachmann has figured out, at least in this instance, when to shut the heck up. I honestly didn’t think she had it in her. Kudos!

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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208 thoughts on “The Smart Get Dumb and the Dumb Get Smart

  1. I agree. Obama has disappointed me with his actions with this. I think I understand why though.. he’s trying to avoid the situation completely and not take control of it because then he would hold full responsibility for what happens. However, he is responsible either way and like you said, it is his Katrina regardless. He can’t just leave all the responsibility for BP.

  2. “R”, 😆

    Here you were finally on a roll of honesty, and what happens? A completely irrelevant addendum tied to Obama’s incompetence about Louisiana.

    Rutherford, I actually have tried to be very fair this time with you’re man, but government shares a very large part of the blame this time. One group you have failed to mention that is corrupt to the core and completely incompetent is the EPA.

    We are having to drill in waters so deep that a couple of square inches of pressure is like compressing a couple of hippos into the square. You might as well be plugging a hole on the moon – it wouldn’t be more difficult. You’re not allowing us to drill in waters where the depth would be far more manageable. This time, government has been caught with their tit in the wringer due to their abject stupidity.

    This is far worse incompetence than Katrina because New Orleans had three days to prepare and that a natural disaster. Obama has now had 36 days to assist and frankly has done little. Jindal can’t even get permission from the EPA to build berms to protect the marsh lands. That certainly could have been accomplished weeks ago.

    The irony of ironies is that while my wife and I have personally lost our shirts over this, now totaling over $20K as this far and away our largest holding, and might lose a lot more, it might be worth it to me if it cleans Obama’s clock and boots him to the curb forever. At least we won’t be hearing much of the “good job Brownie” crap – what goes around comes around. BP, Halliburton, TransOcean – they all are to blame. But…

    Graychin can consider that my personal sacrifice to America. My stock losses get rid of Obama. Seems like a fair trade. 😉

  3. One other thing Rutherford that I let slip with you that dumb cluck Gray called “so what”, demonstrating not only how phony and callous he is, but also how ignorant.

    Tennessee just suffered their worst natural disaster ever – thousands homeless, 1.5 billion in damage, and over 30 people dead.

    And where was Obama? Not once did he even make an appearance. I don’t recall him even mentioning it – no political points to score I suppose. That is inexcusable.

    The man has no business in a position of authority.

  4. I wouldn’t worry about it. Lord Zero will soon swoop to the rescue, to save the day and reassure all that government will solve all problems. Of course, considering their role in creating the problem, one might wonder just how damaging “the cure” will be, and of course, the real question is how the administration can make this about George Bush, so they can avoid the embarrassment of having to be too harsh with such a generous campaign contributor.

  5. R, you must have missed that little missive from the Coast Guard Admiral saying that the Fed has neither the expertise nor the means to take the lead from BP. While you were missing that little tidbit- probably concentrating on Ken “Boot on the Neck” Salazar’s rants- you would have also missed the multiple environmental and engineering experts who have commented on how it is the depth that is the real issue.

    But we’re in complete agreement that this is a complete failure on the part of Obama, though you continue to show a total lack of understanding of Katrina and nearly all of the dynamics that facilitated the crisis.

  6. I am for doing good to the poor, but…I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed…that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.– Benjamin Franklin

    “Paychecks from private business shrank to their smallest share of personal income in U.S. history during the first quarter of this year, a USA TODAY analysis of government data finds.

    At the same time, government-provided benefits — from Social Security, unemployment insurance, food stamps and other programs — rose to a record high during the first three months of 2010.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-05-24-income-shifts-from-private-sector_N.htm

  7. I guess we’re being a bit hard on the One. I mean, how can we expect him to focus on this when he’s so busy with vacations- two during this crisis alone!

    Between golf and vacations, coupled with a plethora of fund raising ventures, amazing he gets anything done…

  8. Actually, I’m going to disagree today, Ruth. While I think the BP debacle is horrific in so many ways, what is abundantly clear is that no one seems to know how to fix it. Not BP, not the government, not Exxon. If a fix were available, I am quite certain it would have been attempted by Try 10. Clearly, however, the government has no expertise in this arena. Heads should definitely roll on all sides of this equation, but for now, I’d rather focus on solving the problem than pointing fingers (despite the fact that the latter is well underway.)

    They clearly don’t know when or how they can fix this. Promises are meaningless in the domain of wild real-time experimentation. It sucks, but it’s true.

  9. Rutherford – excellent post.

    We were watching an old Superman movie last week, and decided that Superman is the only guy who can save Planet Earth from the Oil Spill That Devoured the Gulf. He could just swim down and squeeze than pipe closed, or jam a giant cork into it.

    Dang – I guess Obama isn’t Superman after all. 😦

    Like Rutherford, I have been disappointed in Obama’s response to the oil spill mega-disaster. He continues to let BP take the lead, but anyone can see that BP is much more interested in finger-pointing and avoiding liability than in actually doing anything useful. Spokesmen for BP talk about how much MONEY they are spending per day. They seem much less worried about actually stopping the flow ASAP and cleaning up the mess – and paying for the damage they caused.

    It would be satisfying to see Obama kicking some serious BP butt right now, but does anyone in the federal government actually know anything about plugging runaway oil wells a mile down? I doubt it – especially if the expertise allegedly resides in the Minerals Management Service. (What an incompetent and corrupt den of thieves THAT is! If you want to find a way to blame this mess on Bush, that’s your first talking point. The MMS didn’t get that fucked up in just 15 months.)

    It looks to me like the cost of the damage may exceed BP’s entire net worth. That clown Tony Hayward might as well just hand the keys to BP over to the American taxpayers if he’s serious about paying All “Legitimate” Claims.’ (Which I doubt. Talk about someone clearly unqualified to be in a leadership position!)

    Besides, we already own a car company. Why not add an oil company to our portfolio? 😀

    A different category – The Dumb Are Still Dumb: why are some Republican senators blocking an increase to the cap on BP;s liability for this fiasco? Why IS there a cap on BP’s liability in the first place? Why has Congress socialized BP’s risk in earning their privatized profits? We say we believe in “free enterprise” – but do we? Really?

    Finally, to “The Dumb Get Smart” – isn’t that a bit of an exaggeration? How “smart” does a Republican pol have to be to run like the wind away from Ron Paul? Michelle Bachmann has not gotten “smart.” She is still as dumb as a box of rocks, and will continue to be John Boehner’s comic relief, but Rand Paul is more serious trouble for Republicans. He absolutely is NOT a racist – he simply doesn’t give a shit about anyone or anything except his ideology. The real-life consequences of his ideology matter nothing to him, as we discussed in Rutherford’s last post. But Paul’s dissing of the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act will strike all but the most hard-core Tea Partiers as wrong-headed and mean. Paul’s presence in national politics will scare away centerists who might be inclined to vote for a “change” from Democratic government.

    Too bad! 😀

  10. This can’t be. An administration that can run an auto manufacturing company, the nation’s health care, and everyone’s diets to boot, doesn’t have the expertise to handle a measly oil leak in the gulf? Well, when there’s a problem you can’t handle there’s only one thing to do; nothing. Oh, and start blaming Bush.

  11. Little bit about a lot.

    You can’t retroactively make law or change the game when you made the laws, if you’re going to operate under the rules of fairness. Dims love the game of “fairness” when it penalizes somebody else and they can pad their own pockets. America doesn’t work that way – or at least it wasn’t intended to.

    Still blaming Bush. Pathetic. :roll:. I told everyone two years ago at Chen’s board the only thing the Dimocratic party was really good at is casting blame, stealing elections, criticizing, and strife – especially racial. They can’t possibly perform. Prophetic, wasn’t I? Doubt me now “R”? 🙂

    Now it’s the department of meth users and porn addicts. You Dims won the election – for once, you ought to quit trying to pass the buck. Not working anymore boys and girls. That’s why THE ONE carries a 42% approval rating and diving like a submarine in pubic opinion. Your party’s weakness is exactly what is exacerbating the despots to bad behavior. Kim and Mahmoud are laughing at us on account of lack of leadership.

    It would be hard for Obama to apply the boot to BP’s neck when they are helping to finance his campaign. Obama’s campaign list of big donors is beginning to look like a Who’s Who of extortionists and thieves.

    I keep hearing about the stupidity of the individual Congressman who make up the Republican party, which leads me to ask, “exactly who is it that is so wise leading the Dimocratic party?” Can some lib here give me the leading mind?

    We keep being spoon fed about how smart Obama is for instance, yet nobody can provide any definitive proof of his achievement. If you are to use his performance as indicator, he’s the class dunce. What Obama has dictated through his regime is overwhelmingly unpopular with most of America. So where are all these smart Dimocrats leading us to glory? Why is their super majority Congress at historic low approvals?

    You guys really are getting desperate, but I give you credit Rutherford. You’re one of the few libs willing to admit that your lifetime ideology is not working. With the welfare state unsustainable, most establishment liberals are now flailing.

    With few exceptions, you’ve held it together. Most “progressives” are incredibly angry, but few in America are listening to the propaganda anymore – the results are in – dismal results all the way around; domestic or foreign, doesn’t matter.

    Though I hate it that my country being possibly irreparably damaged on account of the idiocy of progressivism, there is a small part of me that can’t help but grin like a cat at watching men and women act like a toddlers to make defense of the indefensible, making any attempt at diversion to circumvent this nightmare of socialism and nanny gov’t.

    I”m still willing to place a bet with Graychin the next Kentucky Senator will be named Paul – he hasn’t taken my bet yet.

  12. What specifically should Obama be doing right now about the oil spill? Other than turning up the heat on BP and putting a spotlight on their finger-pointing response (which he did – forcefully), I don’t know much that any POTUS could do about this.

    Katrina was a matter of logistics – getting food and shelter to the people imprisoned in New Orleans after the hurricane. It was a disaster relief matter, although much larger than usual. The federal government is good at that – or should be.

    So – other than staying on-site for the duration (like Jimmy Carter imprisoning himself in the Rose Garden during the Iran Hostage crisis), what should Obama be doing right now?

  13. Tex, I won’t take that bet. Any state that sends Mitch McConnell and Jim Bunning to the Senate obviously has electile dysfunction.

    You condemn Okies and their representatives as dumb, but you’re still living here? Why haven’t you packed up and moved with the sophisticates you believe yourself being on the coasts or D.C.? Why would “any immensely talented, educated and intelligent” Dimocrat subject themselves to living amongst the lessers?

    Why would a man of your “immeasurable courage and valor” waste his time in the most backwards of states, and even then choose to live in the most backwater part of the backward state? Gray, you certainly aren’t making any progress changing hearts or minds as your own home state folk as the reddest of the red and getting redder. I mean, even you would admit that Obama about as popular here as horse dung. So the only thing I can figure is…

    …you’ve always reminded me of the kid who sat on the bench, the one who wet his pants before every game and bragged of his profound athletic ability with nobody listening except his granddad. You were fodder for the starters – a twenty, twenty player. You got in for the last 20 seconds of the 20 point blowout.

    Otherwise, you rode the pine all your life and had your dad bitch at the coach, even though you couldn’t catch the ball, tackle or shoot. Then, when you’re grades were marginal throughout school and you were mediocre, your mom moaned about the failing teachers not realizing “just how smart little Graychin really is…”

    Am I reading that wrong?

  14. Very wrong.

    They don’t need me in New England or in California. The Enlightenment has already begun to make inroads in those place.

    Think of me as a missionary in Darkest Oklahoma. 😀

  15. CONGRATULATIONS DEMOCRATS AND OBAMA SUPPORTERS – ONE & ALL

    A Twofer! You managed to hit the $13,000,000,000,000 debt mark and bypass the magic 90% debt to GDP ratio in less than sixteen months of Bongo! One month and two milestones are reached! WOO HOO!

    You guys are even more awesome than I could have ever dreamed! :shocked:

  16. If a Democratic member of Congress is to be believed, there’s someone in the Obama administration who has committed a crime – and if the president knew about it, analysts say it could be grounds for impeachment.

    “This scandal could be enormous,” said Dick Morris, a former White House adviser to President Bill Clinton, on the Fox News Sean Hannity show last night. “It’s Valerie Plame only 10 times bigger, because it’s illegal and Joe Sestak is either lying or the White House committed a crime.

    “Obviously, the offer of a significant job in the White House could not be made unless it was by Rahm Emanuel or cleared with Rahm Emanuel,” he said. If the job offer was high enough that it also had Obama’s apppoval, “that is a high crime and misdemeanor.”

    😆 😆 😆

    And the news keeps getting better for Bongo! I hope he enjoys his vacation as the world burns.

  17. They don’t need me in New England or in California. The Enlightenment has already begun to make inroads in those place.

    Yeah, I noticed California had enlightened themselves into half a trillion dollars of debt, businesses leaving the bomb is about to drop, and the worst public school systems in the nation.

    I’ll give you one thing. Your party is consistent in its results.

    Think of me as a missionary in Darkest Oklahoma.

    Okay – that was pretty funny. But tell me Mr. missionary – aren’t you supposed to at some time produce a few converts? It’s seems your missionary work is converting more people to the opposing side. Have you adopted the Obama 2010 strategy in your work? :twisted.

  18. @G-Chin, you’re right. There’s nothing to be done by this administration, other than keeping its high heels, I mean “boot,” on BP’s neck. Stink eye, tough talk, and of course blame Bush and conservative commentators.

    If there’s nothing to be done, then the feel-good dimwits should get out of the way completely. How about worrying about projecting some level of control and leadership instead of worrying about what Glen Beck says? Being a thin-skinned pussy isn’t working. And I don’t see how he can turn this into some racial/civil rights issue. You got any ideas there G-chin?

    So, with all of this time on his hands not doing anything other than fundraising, can we at least hear what Obama has to say about the Sestak bribe?

  19. If I can’t feed my family the rice that is now growing in my living room, maybe Michelle can feed us some of the arugula from her garden.

    She just looks so fabulous working in it in with her Jimmy Choo accessories! It just makes me feel proud that while we might have lost everything, our leader and his wife can continue to present such a polished and realistic view to the world!

  20. Like I said before, my only idea of what this administration can do about the spill is to keep the fire lit and burning hot under BP’s corner-cutting ass.

    And make damn sure that nothing like this ever happens again by cleaning house at the Minerals Mismanagement Service.

  21. Anybody else getting the distinct impression that most of a America doesn’t really give a damn anymore about what President Bongo thinks or feels? That maybe Bongo is quickly becoming a bad joke, a rotten egg, a has been, and the time to take action to frogmarch his worthless ass to the curb for gross negligence and egregious incompetence? Perhaps wing him in the pen for fraud with the rest of the thieves? {this actually sends a tingle up my leg just saying it out loud).

    I get this distinct impression at each passing day, Bongo becomes an object of ridicule and scorn as people feel his very presence disgraces the United States.

    Bongo may be keeping the cool persona in public, but behind doors he sounds like a thin-skinned and desperate man – his hair seemed to gray overnight, rail thin, anemic, almost anorexic. 🙂 He turns to the golf course as glorified duffer and Noodle Arm on the mound.

    I give blacks in America a pass for electing this bum. Anybody group that felt disenfranchised deserves their hero, even if the hero has turned out to be a complete fraud and failure.

    Anybody else that voted for this flimflam should now remove themselves from public discourse and possibly choke themselves to death for gross stupidity that you could be fooled so easily.

  22. Gray, once you’ve completed your penance to Oklahoma with your missionary work, I think I have found a home for you in one of those enlightened states – you can bunk up with Congressman Pat Kennedy and pop a few pills as you share the bottle and dream of the good old days of Uncle Teddy’s insidious career.

    How’s Rhode Island grab you? Small, quaint, enlightened, broke.

    http://www.projo.com/news/content/tax_refund_delays_05-26-10_FKIKNT3_v8.381d9b9.html

  23. Tex – re #23…

    You have obviously been contemplating your own navel. And you are just as superficial as usual, focusing on Obama’s athletic ability rather than on anything that matters.

    As a matter of fact, you sound a lot like a seventh-grade bully in that comment -and just as insightful.

    Do you have anything to say about the actual, you know, ISSUES of the day?

    (#24 is almost as bad. You aren’t having a good day at all. You can do better.)

  24. Gray = re#25

    You have obviously been contemplating your own navel. And you are just as superficial as usual, focusing on Obama’s athletic ability rather than on anything that matters.

    Well, that 13 Trillion in Debt, and 90.3% ratio debt to GDP is not worth contemplating – you’re absolutely something. Or that we now have possible impeachable offenses, or that the oil spill is nothing that matters, or that Bongo never made it to Nashville to say “hey guys and gals”, I can just move along according to Mr. Pragmatist.

    I noticed you get real pragmatic when we discuss how huge a failure President Transparency is. re #2-3-19-20.

    WHAT A RELIEF! 😯

    The fact that Noodle Arm/Shank/Set shot is also a wimp and looked upon as an object of ridicule does provide me a great deal of humor.

    The fact that it chaps your worthless ass when I do so is like icing on good cake. If that makes me a bully, all I’ve got to say to you Mr. Pragmatist {snort} is…

    Tough titty and you better get used to it sport because I’m just getting warmed up. :.smile:

  25. G-chin, how about NOT blocking attempts by the state of Louisiana to add levies to protect against the oil? That’s like doing something, but without doing anything. You know, play to his strengths.

    Naahh. Give him a pass. He’s got plenty of other pressing issues to ignore like unemployment, immigration, a 13 trillion dollar debt with no plans to contain it. . . and accounting for the Sestak bribe.

  26. I think Rutherford beginning to accept the truth about Barack Obama is a better example of “the dumb getting smart” than Bachman could ever dream of.

    Not that I think you are especially dumb, Rutherford. But you did vote Obama….

  27. “G-chin, how about NOT blocking attempts by the state of Louisiana to add levies to protect against the oil? That’s like doing something, but without doing anything. You know, play to his strengths. ”

    Obama was too busy taking questions from Marv Albert about the NBA playoffs to be concerned about getting back to Bobby Jindal about saving his coastline.

  28. I hardly ever bring my lackluster 4 years of military service into the mix. But I can assure everyone here that the Untied States Navy does not have the means nor the know how to stop a massive oil leak on the bottom of the ocean floor. Yeah, the Navy Sea Bees “can do.” But not this.

    So….I guess maybe the Secret Service, ATF or maybe the FDA should be on it.

    This may serve as a shock to some, but Obama hasn’t done shit to fix the situation becuase he can’t do shit.

    What do you want him to do?

    Bump BP on their ass, have the Coast Guard borrow all of BP’s equipment and then sub contract out all of BP employees?

  29. LOL….Tex….thats actually painful to watch. It should be off limits.

    Dude doesn’t know the first thing about the White Sox. Couldn’t even name one player. Did you hear how awkward he got? What would be so wrong with just manning up and saying “I’m not a baseball fan”?

    That sissy arm is epic.

    I bet Obama is the kind of guy always calling fouls on the court too.

    Fake ass politicians. Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

    Can you imagine investing your identity and your life blood in a dude like Obama?

  30. Bump BP on their ass, have the Coast Guard borrow all of BP’s equipment and then sub contract out all of BP employees?

    Absolutely. More bodies to toss under the bus. Especially since Sunover Ragdoll G.W. Bush is looking a little ragged these days to a populace that understands that Lord Zero campaigned for the job and ever since he got it, has consistently failed to be a leader and claim the responsibilty he worked so hard to get.

  31. “Can we all agree that the whole transparency thing was a complete lie?”

    Not so far. Last I heard, Obama’s lemmings were saying that the fact that we know backroom deals are going on is a sign of transparency.

  32. Not so far. Last I heard, Obama’s lemmings were saying that the fact that we know backroom deals are going on is a sign of transparency.

    That could almost be a Gibbism. “There are no backroom deals. Didn’t we promise the most transparent administration ever? Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?”

  33. @ Rabbit, I just want him to act like a leader. He took credit for his adminstration’s “swift and determined” response to the situation (paraphrase). Perhaps back that up with something? He’s conducting the first press conference on this tomorrow for Christ’s sake. To steal the words of another blogger, if could stuff his ego into that pipe the problem would be solved.

  34. Rutherford, my blog brother. Give me your input on this. I would be interested, because I know you’ll disagree with my opinion.

    Why could the Civil Rights Act not have been passed without the sections dealing with the private sector? This would have eliminated discrimination in public services (tax payer funded). It could also have eliminated the enforcement of discriminatory covenants. It would have eliminated Jim Crow laws. It would not have infringed upon the rights of private property.

    I don’t claim to be a historian, attorney, or even be in the know of Rand Paul’s positions, other than what I’ve read the last couple of days.

    But the more consideration I give to the Civil Rights Act, the more I realize I think it does go too far. If I own and have paid for a piece of personal property, say a rental house, I should have every right to discriminate in any way I see fit. If that is what Paul is referring, I’m with him – screw the Fair Housing Act portion of Civil Rights Act.

    Whatever the original intent, I know of at least two occasions where the homeowner was threatened with suit, consented, then got burned by thousands of dollars in damage and was left holding the bag – including a clean up of meth residue. Uncle Sammy’s local do gooders didn’t volunteer to help afterward either and the homeowner was stuff with the bill. You tell me how that didn’t infringe on my acquaintance’s liberty and rights?

    If I don’t like the color of your hair, much less your skin, I ought to have the right to tell you “NO” you’re not renting my property. And I should not have to explain why.

    Tell me where I am wrong.

  35. Tex, you aren’t “wrong.” So your record is intact. 😀

    Of course the Civil Rights Act could have been passed with an exemption for all private property. But that would have effectively emasculated the bill, which no doubt would have pleased Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms.

    Blacks would have continued to be forced to ride in the back of Greyhound buses and denied the opportunity to eat in Lester Maddox’s restaurant. And let’s wish good luck to any black family hoping to spend the night in a motel as they drove to visit Grandma.

    Your idolatry of “private property rights” completely ignores the fundamental human rights of every citizen who was victimized by ignorant bigotry and racism. The CRA sent the message, loud and clear, that racial discrimination was no longer cool in America. That the “Southern way of life” of de facto Jim Crow in the private sector would have to change for good. That fairness was finally the public policy and the LAW in America.

    As a result of the CRA, even confirmed bigots will no longer admit to being bigots. They have to fall back on something else to justify their bigotry.

    If you like the private Jim Crow scenario better than the one given to us by the CRA, then good for you. That is your right.

    Ideology first?

  36. I love being lectured “about perceived racism” from a man whose lake home is parked in possibly the most lilly white part of the country. Anybody doubt me, take a drive to the upper tip of Grand Lake in Oklahoma and count the number of “foreign” or darkened faces you see in the evening.

    I knew a pretentious phony like you Graychin would disagree, and I had already predicted your baloney response, so I came armed, but you didn’t address my question sport.

    Why are my acquaintance’s rights not infringed upon when government decides in its infinite wisdom who he will rent to by force – where are his rights, being he bought and paid for the home? This is worse than segregation – this is fascism pure and simple; this isn’t 1963 – this in 1861 stuff, only clowns like you’ve flipped the script.

    We also have freedom of association in country Graychin. The intent may have been good, but the results say otherwise.

    Check out the Section 8 housing neighborhoods that were mandated by our government in South Tulsa. Check out the high schools where forced busing was mandated by our government. And what you will find is third world bankruptcy, multi-generational welfare, and rampant crime – something that was almost nonexistent before Uncle Sammy mandated the changes.

    And here’s the real kicker. Nobody, including those bussed and housed are happy. That’s what you Great Society brought us.

  37. By the way Graychin, why don’t you give me your address over at Grand. I’ve got some people of a little different breed than your neighbors that would like to move around some exclusive lakes home. I’m sure you won’t mind as we move them in, all in the name of “fairness” and “diversity.”

    Let’s see you put your pure heart to action blowhard and live that “diversified” life you’re always “preaching” about.

    This is when I regret giving you a head’s up about this place.

    Now that I want to have a serious conversation with Rutherford, I first have to address your horseshit sanctimony first.

    And they don’t come any phonier than your type Gray. I’ve experienced a lifetime of Little Dixie Dims from Oklahoma, do gooders than assign diversity to everyone’ s neighborhood but their own.

    Wink. Wink. 😉

  38. So let me get this straight Mr. Pragmatist {snort}

    Your idolatry of “private property rights” completely ignores the fundamental human rights of every citizen who was victimized by ignorant bigotry and racism.

    You are going to mandate by law forced association? That is what you’re telling me, right? So you’ll be supporting me wholeheartedly when I demand membership to the Black MBA association and the United Negro League? How about membership and locker room privileges to the locker room of Women’s Fitness?

    Your faux allegiance to “property rights” seem to have some glaring holes.

    Ask the Dead Rabbit how forced association has worked in his hometown of Detroit. Last I looked, your illustrious government was getting ready to bulldoze 10,000 abandon homes. But to hell with the original property owners who walked away with nothing and lost their shirts.

  39. So you’ll be supporting me wholeheartedly when I demand membership to the Black MBA association and the United Negro League? How about membership and locker room privileges to the locker room of Women’s Fitness?

    Don’t forget the shameful phenomina that are ‘black proms’, ‘black homecomings’ and the like. Black bar associations, Black congressional caucuses…you know, all those time honored, non-discriminatory affiliations that are designated as equal and desirable by the identification set forth in their name.

    The double-mindedness that can vigorously oppose racism, yet sanction such activities belies description.

  40. But BiC, that’s how white race pimps like Graychin prove to us their most angelic nature. Now living that angelic, nature – well, that’s proved a little more difficult that “preaching” to the rest of us.

    You can see why I don’t take men like Graychin and their diversity is our strength speeches too terribly seriously.

    More Dim ‘do as I say and not as I do.” stuff. Retched stuff…but they have convinced the minority populace that they are looking out for their bests interests. See what it has got everybody! 😉

  41. No one’s “rights” are absolute unless you live alone on a desert island.

    Tex, don’t try to make this about me. It isn’t about me.

  42. Yes Graychin, it is about you and race hustling, gay hustling pimps like you. They come in all colors – but share one common trait; a false sense of moral authority.

    You and your demagogues infringe more on other’s rights than some hooded Klan like the Grand Wizard himself Robert Byrd (which you failed to mention from above) ever did. The worst part is, you have no intention of living by the same laws you wish to impose on others.

    You create strife where none need exist, and you frame it around supposed “support” of minorities.

    You’re the most putrid kind of phony.

  43. Don’t forget black softball teams. I was once one of the two token white guys allowed on the squad.

    We sucked but the bbq afterwords was awesome.

  44. Hey Rabbit,

    Read my comment from above and give Graychin a lesson about Detroit, MI. You’ll need to read my first comment to make sense of the conversation.

    Undoubtedly, some people’s rights are more absolutely than others. Maybe he’ll see a little more light if he would hear first hand about a real “integrated” city.

  45. All I know is that black culture destroys every neighborhood it becomes in prevalent in. Every one.

    Nobody should have to live in a predominantly black neighborhood. Not even black people!

    I lived 2 years in one. Worst two years of my life. I had to take a shower with my speed pump leaning against the toilette.

    Nothing like drifting off to sleep hearing that ever so distant pop! pop! pop!

  46. Otherwise, you rode the pine all your life and had your dad bitch at the coach, even though you couldn’t catch the ball, tackle or shoot. Then, when you’re grades were marginal throughout school and you were mediocre, your mom moaned about the failing teachers not realizing “just how smart little Graychin really is…”

    Tex, you’re sounding like Hannibal Lecter again dude. 🙂

    Careful, Gray, Tex may eat you with some fava beans and a nice Chianti. 😉

  47. Bump BP on their ass, have the Coast Guard borrow all of BP’s equipment and then sub contract out all of BP employees?

    Rabbit that might not be such a bad idea. The workers at BP trying to fix this are not the problem. It’s the head honchos trying to minimize their liability and potential law suit losses that are causing problems. Get some leadership in there who is impartial and can make judgment calls irrespective of the long term effect on BP’s brand name. And yes, by all means use the current BP work force to get the job done.

  48. A quick word about this Sestak “bribe” foolishness.

    On the low-rated but still alive Rutherford Lawson Show, I interviewed a fella hoping to replace Jack Murtha in the real election in November (not the special that just happened).

    The most revealing thing this guy said on my show was that he had no time to talk to his potential constituents and really learn what was on their minds. You know why? Because 90% of his time was spent on the phone asking for money.

    I fear that capitalism has so penetrated our government that just about everything is done on the barter system. Which contributor needs their dick sucked (MMS apparently did this literally)? If you vote this way, or support this candidate, it could “enhance your odds of getting a cabinet appointment down the line”.

    Personally, I love Blago. I hope the dude doesn’t go to jail. He is a pure unadulterated politicaian. And all the dudes calling for his skin are just pissed because he got caught doing what THEY ALL DO. The same goes for the Sestak situation.

    Was Sestak offered something not to oppose Specter? Damn straight he was. If the White House denies it, they’re lying. And …. so-the-f*ck-what???

    This is how the game is played. I worked for a corporation that chose to implement a tool that everyone knew sucked big time. I can bet dollars to donuts, the decision to buy that tool was made on a golf course somewhere among buddies.

    The way some of you talk sometimes, I almost think YOU’RE THE POLLYANISH LIBERALS. ROTFLMAO.

    As Cyndi Lauper once sang, money changes everything..

  49. Tell me where I am wrong [regarding civil rights act]

    Tex, it’s late and I need my beauty sleep … and to answer that question would have me typing for a full hour.

    1) You have a right not to rent your property to a drug addict. Skin color doesn’t indicate inclination toward drug abuse.

    2) Your property rental example is interesting because it is NOT actually the most troubling example. The restaurant is the quintessential example of the problem. The restaurant is open to the public even though it is a private business. The only way a restaurant could discriminate in the manner that you say they have a right to, they would have to issue membership cards to all their desired patrons and not issue them to “undesirables”. Once the restaurant is membership only, things then get a bit more complicated. As long as its open to the public at large, you cannot turn a way a bro for being a bro. Period.

  50. Was Sestak offered something not to oppose Specter? Damn straight he was. If the White House denies it, they’re lying. And …. so-the-f*ck-what???

    Oh, no other reason than it is a possible felony. What the hell does the law matter anymore to good progressives?

    I can discriminate with my own personal property to anybody I want. I don’t give a shit whether I like their skin color, their eye color, or their tennis shoes.

    It’s bullshit that someone can’t rent to anyone they choose at their discretion to who they want, if they want.

  51. Why is it that we keep hearing about how the game is played when people are defending this man who was supposed to change the way the game is played?

    When Republicans use what little power they have, Rutherford accuses them of being the obstructionist Party of No. When Democrats flaunt their vulgar displays of power, or commit felonies, Rutherford tells us it’s how the political game is played and we shouldn’t bother with how the sausage is being made as long as it tastes good when it’s being shoved down our throat.

    I’m sure Richard Nixon would have appreciated your perspective, Rutherford.

  52. Was Sestak offered something not to oppose Specter? Damn straight he was. If the White House denies it, they’re lying. And …. so-the-f*ck-what??? ” – R

    Crimes and Criminal Procedure – 18 USC Section 600

    “Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment, position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit, provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity or for the support of or opposition to any candidate or any political party in connection with any general or special election to any political office, or in connection with any primary election or political convention or caucus held to select candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.”
    http://law.onecle.com/uscode/18/600.html

    Because it is a violation of federal law, because it is cronyism at its worst, because it is the antithesis of democracy and because it is an extreme abuse of power.

    Those good enough reasons for you?

  53. A couple other reasons why the Sestak issue is such a big deal.

    18 U.S.C. § 211 : US Code – Section 211: Acceptance or solicitation to obtain appointive public office

    “Whoever solicits or receives, either as a political contribution,
    or for personal emolument, any money or thing of value, in
    consideration of the promise of support or use of influence in
    obtaining for any person any appointive office or place under the
    United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not
    more than one year, or both.
    Whoever solicits or receives any thing of value in consideration
    of aiding a person to obtain employment under the United States
    either by referring his name to an executive department or agency
    of the United States or by requiring the payment of a fee because
    such person has secured such employment shall be fined under this
    title, or imprisoned not more than one year, or both. This section
    shall not apply to such services rendered by an employment agency
    pursuant to the written request of an executive department or
    agency of the United States.”
    http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/11/211

    As well as this one…

    Crimes and Criminal Procedure – 18 USC Section 595

    “Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.”
    http://law.onecle.com/uscode/18/595.html

    Let’s face it, these are impeachable offenses, and I’m not talking about blow job cover ups, this is cut and dry election tampering and is an unadulterated abuse of power.

    I expect nothing less from dems…

  54. …uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate…

    Obama had better stay inside the White House between now and November. All that jetting around and speechifying in support of Democratic candidates is likely to get him impeached.

    I know that it’s hard to wrap your mind about the words “ethics” and “Bush” in the same sentence, but Bush’s chief ethics lawyer (Richard Painter) doesn’t see any “bribe” here. (Maybe he just isn’t a Loyal Bushie any more.)

    I can’t remember a time when so many semi-literate morons have held themselves out as experts on constitutional law and federal election statutes as we have seen since January 2009, but I might as well join in anyway: doesn’t the passage quoted above threaten to put in jail every lobbyist on K Street? And everyone who has ever made a campaign contribution?

  55. Why is the Gulf oil spill different than Katrina?

    Katrina: tens of thousands of hungry and homeless people are imprisoned in the Superdome, in need of food, clean water, sanitary facilites and shelter. The person in charge of the relief effort (“Brownie”) is “discovered” to be shockingly unqualified and incompetent, and is summarily fired. The feds still can’t figure out how to bring their vast logistical resources to bear on what is essentially a logistical problem in the aftermath of the hurricane, although a huge government agency (FEMA) exists and has been created for this exact purpose.

    Gulf oil spill: No human beings are in immediate danger. An oil well has blown out 5,000 feet below the surface of the ocean, and the federal government has no known expertise in plugging runaway oil wells (or in any other realm of activity, according to most “conservatives.”) Everyone calls on the POTUS to “do something,” although they are oddly silent about exactly what he should do.

    Should the POTUS interfere with the “experts” engaged by private enterprise to plug the leak? Should he nationalize BP? Should he call on the nation to pray for one of the Rube Goldberg attempts to plug the well to be effective? Should he call on the Senate to approve lifting the cap on BP’s liability for their corner-cutting that led to this disaster?

    Ape, I hope that this helps you to discern the subtle differences between Katrina and the Gulf oil spill, but I suspect that it won’t help a bit. Call it a hunch.

  56. G-chin, it doesn’t matter since, according to R, “that’s how things are done.” Kind of like the “it smells bad” test for the constitutionality of the AZ law.

    Since whatever Obama does is fine to you, no matter what and without qualification, how about some of that transparency we were promised? Can the WH come out and tell us what happened now to back up G-chin’s sources who are only experts when they say things pleasing to his ears?

    G-chi, you are indeed no constitutional scholar.

  57. Well Graychin, that good Democrat James Carville disagrees with your assessment of Obama’s “Louisiana” performance and he is right. Here’s the difference between Bush and Obama. Bush wasn’t out campaigning and fund raising during Katrina. Bush would have made an appearance in Tennessee after these floods, if for no other reason acknowledgment.

    Has your precious President even made mention of Tennessee yet? Of course after 30 dead, you Graychin were the one who said, “So What?” Remember?

    You dummies from the Left keep throwing up New Orleans as clear indicator of Bush’s failures, yet what really was on trial was how the people of a community acted under duress. The Democratic party and 70 years of control was on trial and failed miserably.

    Mississippi, Galveston, Iowa, Missouri, Tennessee all seem to be able to pull together and recovery without Big Daddy carrying them to safety. Yet, New Orleans couldn’t even get their own family members to safety without government assistance.

    And what is the clear difference? Since the days of Huey Long – your nanny state that you would like to facilitate across the rest of the nation Graychin has shown its capability.

    Helpless people, dependent upon an inept government which always leads to tragedy and failure. Yes, we have seen the abilities of Democratic politics over many years. New Orleans, Detroit, Oakland…all squealing

    Save Us Obama! Save Us!

  58. Breaking news! From the LA Times:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oil-spill-top-kill-20100528,0,5782115.story

    Engineers have stopped the flow of oil and gas into the Gulf of Mexico from a gushing BP well, the federal government’s top oil-spill commander, U.S. Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, said Thursday morning.

    The “top kill” effort, launched Wednesday afternoon by industry and government engineers, had pumped enough drilling fluid to block oil and gas spewing from the well, Allen said. The pressure from the well was very low, he said, but persisting.

    Once engineers had reduced the well pressure to zero, they were to begin pumping cement into the hole to entomb the well. To help in that effort, he said, engineers also were pumping some debris into the blowout preventer at the top of the well.

    As of early Thursday morning, neither government nor BP officials had declared the effort a success yet, pending the completion of the cementing and sealing of the well.

    This encouraging news must be a huge disappointment to those of you cheering for disaster to blame on Obama. I guess it may be time to focus on “Sestak-Gate” instead! 😀

  59. “One of BP’s company men on the Deepwater Horizon when it exploded, Robert Kaluza, has declined to testify before the investigative panel in Kenner, citing his Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate himself, the Coast Guard said,” according to the New Orleans Times Picayune. “Kaluza was scheduled to testify Thursday in the joint U.S. Coast Guard and Minerals Management Services hearings in Kenner.”

    Someone please explain to me again why Republican Senators won’t allow the cap on BP’s liability for damages to be raised. And why is it that companies that drill in the Gulf are given a liability cap in the first place? Socialization of risk?

    I assume that the liability cap remains in effect even if it is proven that BP was grossly negligent in drilling this well.

  60. Bad news for me Graychin? Are you kidding? Remember, I’m a shareholder! 🙂 And what do you know? The plugged it without Big Daddy Government’s help.

    Someone please explain to me again why Republican Senators won’t allow the cap on BP’s liability for damages to be raised.

    Because that is the rules that were in place at the time of the accident. You can’t just simply change the rules after the fact. If you believe it a good idea, raise them now – but not retroactively. Another reason why corporations favor Republicans – fairness.

    And why is it that companies that drill in the Gulf are given a liability cap in the first place? Socialization of risk?

    Well, let’s see. They already are penalized at the pump, windfall profit’s tax, superfund charges, exorbitant EPA regulations. Even most Democratic Congressman realize, so goes oil, so goes the economy.

    Still, progressive minds hate America and therefore it must be changed! Save us Obama!

  61. The fallout from the spill has stretched all the way to Washington, where the head of the federal agency that oversees offshore drilling resigned under pressure Thursday.

    Even using the most conservative estimate, the new numbers mean the leak has grown to nearly 19 million gallons over the past five weeks, surpassing the size of the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska, which at about 11 million gallons had been the nation’s worst spill. Under the highest Gulf spill estimate, nearly 39 million gallons may have leaked, enough to fill 30 school gymnasiums.

    “Now we know the true scale of the monster we are fighting in the Gulf,” said Jeremy Symons, vice president of the National Wildlife Federation. “BP has unleashed an unstoppable force of appalling proportions.”

    Anybody want to place a bet five years from now, these estimates from “scientists” assigned by government are proven completely bogus?

  62. When was the last time that Tex agreed with James Carville?

    When we rooted for New Orleans to beat the Progressive LIb that owns the Indianapolis Colts. Buwahahaahahahaha…

    🙂

  63. Rutherford very good post!!

    I don’t get the resident liberals points on the Sestak affair. I get calling Morris names but the overall story is hardly a GOP driven thing.

    On BP and Obama. Lack of leadership plain and simple. Katrina? I don’t buy that but I also don’t blame Katrina solely on W.

    CRA. I’m curious if anybody here is up to opine on whether the CRA was good legislation or very mediocre but enough to simply knock out the last couple of bricks that allowed Americans to be American.Ya know essentially good.

  64. “This encouraging news must be a huge disappointment to those of you cheering for disaster to blame on Obama.”

    Actually, this must come as a thrill to you G-chin. Obama can now take credit for the averting this Bush-caused disaster. All in time for his press conference.

    Care to compare the press’ and democratic congressional response of this oil spill to their treatment of Bush Senior with the Exxon Valdez spill?

  65. Speaking of the Never Smart getting Dumber…. 😈

    HA HA HA! Here’s a study from the Harvard Business School showing Graychin Keynesian Economics doesn’ work, and in fact retards (can we still use that word) growth and increases pressure to reduce staff and investment. In other words, Keynesian economics actually delays recovery – just like I told you Mr. Pragmatist {snort}.

    And this time Graychin, I don’t think you can bad mouth the source – straight out of your Harvard Business School. Bongo economics foiled again! 😆

    Government spending crowds out private investment, but the results of the new study by Harvard Business School will certainly shock some Keynesian academics — and high-ranking government officials. Instead of providing a stimulating effect to the economy, government spending creates pressures on private industry to reduce staff and investment.

    http://www.people.hbs.edu/cmalloy/pdffiles/envaloy.pdf

  66. Armed Black Panther members outside polling places and attempted bribery of politcal candidates in order to effect a political race.

    Obama supporters say these things are no big deal, as their Dear Leader blames Playstation for straining our democracy.

    Absolutely incredible…..

  67. Huck,

    Absolutely incredible yes…Unexpected, not in the least.

    Dimocrats are not interested in fairness or the rule of law. They are interested in acquiring power and control by any means necessary. In their immoral world, the ends justify any means.

    If perversion and inconsistency in application of the law is required, so be it.

  68. It looks like I will again be profiting by simply hedging against Obama’s economic stupidity. Oil futures are again on the rise, at the same time President Noodle Arm strikes a blow to the entire domestic oil industry.

    Summer time, peak travel, moratorium on all off shore drilling. Just like a Dim and excellent time to make another profit.

    Caterpillar, R.J. Reynolds, Big Oil – made money on all of them when Dims turn on them. Never have lost on that bet yet. 😉

  69. “Armed Black Panther members outside polling places and attempted bribery of politcal candidates in order to effect a political race.”

    What’s the problem? Physical intimidation and bribery are the way it’s always been done.

  70. Today, President Obama told America that the White House has been “singularly focused” on the crisis in the Gulf since the disaster began.

    Can anyone spot that singular focus in this video?

    Or in this article about white water rafting?

    Or in this article about golf?

    It is difficult to take Barack Obama at his word that his administration and he were “singularly focused” on this disaster when we have all of this proof to the contrary.

  71. If perversion and inconsistency in application of the law is required, so be it.

    You can do better than that, Tex. Our good friend Dr. Schaffer referred to it as “Rex Lex”, or “Arbitrary Law”.

    Over thirty years ago he wrote about this stuff…I think he would even be alarmed about how right he was.

  72. “Why is it that we keep hearing about how the game is played when people are defending this man who was supposed to change the way the game is played?”

    Answer that question Rutherford.

    Your new founded Machiavellian machismo kills me.

    Little over a year into it and both you and Obama take a stinky piss on “hope and change”.

    No transparency.

    Same old same old when it comes to ethics.

    Laugh at us all you want. Fair enough.

    But why don’t you come in and laugh at my high-school students who actually believed the shit you peddled free of charge for the entire campaign.

    Now crouch down and take a big shit on that red and blue iconic Obama poster your gratify yourself to so much.

  73. You can do better than that, Tex. Our good friend Dr. Schaffer referred to it as “Rex Lex”, or “Arbitrary Law”.

    You’re right BiC – arbitrary law or application of arbitrary law was the phrase I should have used.

    What surprises me to this day is the hypocrites ability to look you in the eye and justify the lies and corruption with party rationale.

    Take Graychin for instance.

    This Lib boner running for Senator in CT literally lies through his teeth about this service record, or the lack thereof. A blatant, bald faced lie told numerous times, and then he gets caught. The boner says he “misspoke.” This is no simple, small lie – this is about basic principles like real honesty. Rational people would scorn him and a decent man or woman when caught would immediately resign the pursuit.

    Yet corrupted and unprincipled men like Graychin will say straight out, “I’ll vote for any Democrat anyway.” Then not two minutes later, Graychin will scold the opposition for lack of cooperation and lack of “bipartisanship.”

    It literally boggles the mind how depraved their thinking. Character and truth are no longer relevant.

    And the only conclusion I can come to is all of them are indeed evil. For Graychin, inherently evil.

    I need to reread Dr. Francis again and refresh myself. It’s been twenty years.

  74. “Singularly focused”

    “Payback is sweet, isn’t it, coach?” President Obama quipped to Coach K of the Duke Blue Devils, as he honored the team for their NCAA championship win in the Rose Garden today.

    That is the important stuff Obama was doing this morning instead of knowing whether or not someone in his administration had been fired or resigned.

  75. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) attributed any lack of oversight surrounding the massive oil spill off the Gulf Coast to the previous presidential administration during a press conference Thursday.

    “Many of the people appointed in the Bush administration are still burrowed in the agencies that are supposed to oversee the [oil] industry,” Pelosi said when asked if Democrats could have prevented or mitigated the crisis by keeping a closer watch on the industry.

    Added the Speaker, “the cozy relationships between the Bush administration’s agency leadership and the industry is clear.”

    Hey DUMMY, Liz Birnbaum was a Clinton appointee and brought back by the “Obama Administration” to oversee the Dept. of Meth & Porn.

    Birnbaum received her Juris Doctor from Harvard University in 1984 and her A.B. degree, magna cum laude, from Brown University in 1979. She was Editor in Chief of the Harvard Environmental Law Review, Vol. 8.

    Sounds a lot like Pres. Bongo’s supposed qualifications! 😆

    They say Obama like to get a little blow while being blown after college by the boys! See, he should have been working in the MMS all along.

  76. Anon Tennessee Resident — the only thing I can say to you is that George W. Bush was hardly a poor man.

    Are you asking our leaders to swear a vow of poverty because some of the folks they lead are themselves poor?

    Welcome to the blog!

  77. Anon Tennessee Resident — the only thing I can say to you is that George W. Bush was hardly a poor man.

    Are you asking our leaders to swear a vow of poverty because some of the folks they lead are themselves poor?

    Maybe it was pointing out that when we have a leader preaching about hard times and sacrifice, its a clanging disconnect to have your wife gardening in her Jimmy Choos….much like attacking Wall Street for its greed and love of filthy lucre and then holding very elaborate and ostenatious parties is more than a little tone deaf.

    I know, I know. Some animals is more equal than others and get back to work. We need to bailout an illegal immigrant who got a no questions asked mortgage from Bank of America for a home that he couldn’t possibly afford.

  78. Birnbaum received her Juris Doctor from Harvard University in 1984 and her A.B. degree, magna cum laude, from Brown University in 1979. She was Editor in Chief of the Harvard Environmental Law Review, Vol. 8.

    Another Harvard Law Grad? Do any of them do honest work, or are they all sucking at the government teat?

  79. I’m beginning to wonder if Rutherford is the only living Harvard graduate that doesn’t either work for Harvard or the gubmint.

    No wonder they rate so high in academia. 😆

  80. “Are you asking our leaders to swear a vow of poverty because some of the folks they lead are themselves poor?”

    My, how far progressives have come since the days of calling John McCain out of touch with the common man because of the number of homes his wife owns.

    Also…why am I not seeing the comment this question is attempting to address?

  81. Why is the Gulf oil spill different than Katrina?

    G, is there a reading comprehension problem here or do you just enjoy the comments thread without reading the accompanying article?

    While the Gulf spill is hardly a carbon copy of Katrina, there are enough similarities to make one very disappointed with the current administration. If I’m not mistaken, I referred to Obama, in this case, as George W. Bush redux, That wasn’t clear enough for you?

  82. Oh, by the way G, BlackIsWhiteImperialConsigliere (LOL I almost never spell out that name! Probably spelled it wrong to boot.) would be very proud of you quoting law chapter and verse.

    OK, you’ve convinced me. Let the impeachment proceedings begin. 🙄

    Any idea why Sestak would accuse the President of a crime? Is that a good way to start your run for Senator? He won the damn primary … is he really just that pissed that he didn’t get support? For all your quotations, I think Sestak said it happened because it happened and he knows no one really gives a damn.

    By the way, Blago wasn’t drummed out of office over trying to sell Obama’s seat. He was drummed out of office cos they hated him. It’s reverse-cronyism.

  83. To Rabbit, eloquent as ever, only the most Peter Pan parts of my being ever believed Obama would change Washington. Mostly I just thought we’d get a smart guy in the White House who would advance an agenda that would make me proud and maybe restore our image abroad.

    Some of it he has done. In some ways he’s hardly getting his head above water. You’ll have to pardon me if unlike most of you, I’m capable of altering my position as the facts on the ground change.

    Furthermore, who is the bigger disappointment to your students. Someone whose hopes were dashed or a cynic who had no hope at all. On that score, your sh*t smells a lot worse than mine.

  84. In reference to the previous comment, would someone please tell me why in my old age, I refuse to use f*cking question marks? The last paragraph would have read better as:

    Furthermore, who is the bigger disappointment to your students? Someone whose hopes were dashed or a cynic who had no hope at all? On that score, your sh*t smells a lot worse than mine.

  85. LOL, since I’m being anal … yes I just realized that the second sentence in that paragraph was not even a sentence. Let’s try one last time:

    Furthermore, who is the bigger disappointment to your students, someone whose hopes were dashed or a cynic who had no hope at all? On that score, your sh*t smells a lot worse than mine.

  86. Final word before I get my totally dead ass to bed. I danced the Watusi when I read Birnbaum got canned. I just wish her entire organization was sent packing with her.

    Could anyone explain to me why the Admiral overseeing things in the Gulf is taking his orders from Homeland Security (Napolitano) and not the EPA? I just don’t get it. I’ll look for your collective wisdom in the morning.

    (Ooooo, oooo, oooo, I know …. Rush says it was an environmentalist terrorist act! That’s why DHS is running the show!! 🙄 )

  87. I actually keep my politics out of it. (Although I may be a little pro-Catholic during the unit on the 30 Years War.)

    Unlike my liberal coworkers who try to institutionalize the kids, I simply remind them not to trust any teacher or professor, including myself. We are by nature full of shit.

    The kids who are liberals are usually well meaning chicks who care about stuff like blood diamonds in Africa. The conservative kids are hunters who give me venison. It’s impossible not to like both of groups. The rest are apolitical souls in Teenage Wasteland.

    Not going to lose my job, but am taking a 17% cut in pay next year. That’s gonna hurt. Work load has increased, too.

    They could pretty much tell me I will be castrated in September and the Rabbit wouldn’t give a fuck.

    Two weeks and I’m off for the summer again, baby!

    Hanging with the little guy, fishing, softball, golf, smoking cigars in the backyard listening to baseball. God is great!

    By the way, the Rabbit hit 4 home runs over a 320 foot fence today.

    My awesomeness is awesome, motherfuckers!

  88. “Could anyone explain to me why the Admiral overseeing things in the Gulf is taking his orders from Homeland Security (Napolitano) and not the EPA? I just don’t get it.”

    Been wondering that same thing, myself.

    She needs to be making sure the system is working at foiling inept terrorists, not cleaning up oil messes.

  89. The better thing to wonder Tex is whether I’m the only living Harvard graduate making as dismal an income as I’m making right now.

    LOL! That was funny. Oh well, if misery loves company I’ve been at it even longer than you. I keep wondering if my obituary will read “homemaker and blog pest.” 🙂

  90. Could anyone explain to me why the Admiral overseeing things in the Gulf is taking his orders from Homeland Security (Napolitano) and not the EPA? I just don’t get it. I’ll look for your collective wisdom in the morning.

    Because the leak is a ‘man-caused disaster’. Duh!

    As I recall, when the Dept. of Homeland Insecurity was birthed, Customs, Immigration, the Border Patrol and the Coast Guard were all placed under their jurisdiction, which makes it a better choice than the EPA. Those environmental lawyers and psuedo-scientists are a big enough pain in the ass without placing people who are armed under their jurisdiction.

    The better thing to wonder Tex is whether I’m the only living Harvard graduate making as dismal an income as I’m making right now.

    Yeah. On paydays I regret the choice I made which means that unlike every other tax laywer in my LL.M. program, I don’t make six figures. Then I come home and interact with my sons every day, while my former classmates are still in their offices in Seattle, and will be for hours, and hearing my youngest say his prayers every night along with the “Good Night, Daddy!” makes me remember that I have nothing to regret.

  91. The United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is a Cabinet department of the United States federal government with the primary responsibilities of protecting the territory of the U.S. from terrorist attacks and responding to natural disasters.

    and

    The Department of Homeland Security is headed by the Secretary of Homeland Security with the assistance of the Deputy Secretary. The Department contains the components listed below.[7] Not all subcomponents are listed; see the linked articles for more details.

    Agencies:

    United States Citizenship and Immigration Services – Processes citizenship, residency, and asylum requests from foreigners
    U.S. Customs and Border Protection – Law enforcement service which enforces U.S. borders (air, land, sea) including its patroling and enforcement of immigration, customs, and agriculture laws
    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement – Law enforcement service which investigates long-term investigations of immigration and customs violations, and enforces deportations and removals
    Transportation Security Administration – Responsible for aviation security (domestic and international, most notably conducting passenger screenings at airports), as well as land and water transportation security
    United States Coast Guard – Military service responsible for law enforcement, maritime security, national defense, maritime mobility, and protection of natural resources
    United States Secret Service – Protective services for important officials and protection of the U.S. currency

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Homeland_Security

    While it didn’t naturally occur, I’m gonna guess that this was classified as a natural disaster…FROM DAY ONE (sorry, couldn’t help myself there), and that would be why the gravelly voiced liliputian intellect from Arizona is calling the shots.

  92. Could anyone explain to me why the Admiral overseeing things in the Gulf is taking his orders from Homeland Security (Napolitano) and not the EPA?

    As time rolls by, I expect that we will be asking this question about once a year: “why is Homeland Security running this instead of….?”

    Travel back in time with me to those golden days of late 2001. The Administration and the Congress, their pants drenched in their own pee, rolled up every loose department they could think of into the monster we now know as the Department of Homeland Security. Not all the decisions made in creating the DHS were well thought-out, made as they were in full panic mode.

    The name of “Homeland Security” itself rings the wrong note with me. I’m going straight for fulfillment of Godwin’s Law here and saying that it reminds me of something Goebbels would have thought up.

  93. The name of “Homeland Security” itself rings the wrong note with me. I’m going straight for fulfillment of Godwin’s Law here and saying that it reminds me of something Goebbels would have thought up.

    Yeah, Homeland Security does have an evil connotation to it – that’s straight out of Nazi Germany. 🙄

    A raging case of BDS is still in full bloom, sixteen plus months since the man flew away to the taunts of those treasonous cowardly meaningless lovely Americans called progressives singing, “NAH NAH NAH NAH, HEY HEY HEY, GOODBYE.” The same ones that now complain we’re unfair with El Bomba and don’t show Bozo the respect he deserves.

    We need to start planning something special for Bongo’s departure. Leave it to Tex to construct a beautiful concerto. 😈

  94. Mr. Pragmatist {snort},

    At the rate Obama’s diving into the abyss, I’m starting to believe we may not even have to wait until January 2013 – maybe we’ll just impeach his ignorant ass for gross incompetence later this year after the Nov. elections? 🙂

    Anything you link from the New York Slimes is unreliable – Pravda USA has become a laughingstock to all but the most of corrupt Obama regime supporters and American hating loons like you, except when they are endangering military troops with leaked information on the front page.

    Like Ann Coulter said, send UBL the NYT headquarter address across Al-Jazeera and I’ll put the air flight directions on a billboard pay for a “Draw Mohammad Contest Banner” across the front of the NYT building. 🙂 That thought actually sends a tingle up my leg again.

    I think there’s a whole host of candidates that can beat Pres. Duck Hook for Pres. and Sarah Palin wont’ be one of them.

    I can see November from my house….

  95. “Anything you link from the New York Slimes is unreliable…”

    Spoken like a life-long student of “apologetics.” Are you afraid that getting your news from an unapproved source might burst your bubble? Do you need Ann Coulter to tell you what to think? Someone as smart as Ann Coulter ought to get to vote twice – don’t you agree? 😀

    Did you read the column, or just brush it off because of the source?

    If you did read it, what facts (as distinguished from commentary) did you find to be incorrect?

  96. If you think you know of any Republican who can beat Obama in 2012, you’d better keep Sarah Palin from endorsing him. She’s electoral poison these days

    Ruthford, you might want to skip the rest of this…its bound to sting some:

    The 1990 Oil Pollution Act was drafted in response to the Exxon-Valdez spill in my home state. It created new procedures for offshore cleanups, specifically putting the federal government in charge of such operations. The President should have used the authority granted by the OPA – immediately – to take control of the situation. That is a big part of what the OPA is for – to designate who is in charge so finger-pointing won’t disrupt efforts to just “plug the d#*! hole.” But instead of immediately engaging with this crisis, our President chose to spend precious time on political pet causes like haranguing the state of Arizona for doing what he himself was supposed to do – secure the nation’s border. He also spent much time fundraising and politicking for liberal candidates and causes while we waited for him to grasp the enormity of the Gulf spill.

    Now that the American people are calling him out on his lack of engagement with this disaster, the buck-passing is in full swing – and, unbelievably, his administration is still looking to blame his predecessor. Amazingly, even those of us who support energy independence for America are the brunt of some buck-passing.

    http://tinyurl.com/38qc4s7

    Now she isn’t so stupid to know that by not doing so, he then would have a crisis to exploit, but it does underscore that his favorite action in response to…well, pretty much anything is to talk.

  97. Spoken like a life-long student of “apologetics” …who continues to baffle Mr. Pragmatist with scripture proving scripture, helping to explain to TEKEL from Eucha what is to come. I’m just wondering if your old knees can still shake when you see your own writing on the wall? 😉

    I read it for amusement like I read your responses – makes for cheap entertainment. This is a red meat article for the weak minded group think you belong to keep your chin up while your political world crumbles around you. Typical gibberish straight from the almost bankrupt grey mule’s ass that is having a heap of trouble finding much good news to print these days – especially since the table has turned when the community agitater took office. Sometimes laced with a shred of truth, but completely irrelevant to the real world – just the periodical for you. 😈

    However, in your continual lifelong adventure of walking in stupidity, you’ve once again confused me with someone else. Hopefully, you have now noticed (I know that’s a huge assumption being I don’t find you terribly perceptive) that I’m no proponent of Sarah P. As far as I’m concerned she’s the Hussein Obama of the Republican party – nice to look at and the talent ends there. Personally, I wish Sarah P. would duck out for a few years after capitalizing and cashing in millions off dimwits like you that continue to make her famous. I wish the Left would demonize me so I could make millions.

    The only time I defend Sarah is when worms like you and Yellow Poodle demonize her kids which I find reprehensible.

  98. Hey Graychin, speaking of worthless commentary, here’s another story from another hag in the dinosaur media that is really is worth discussing. Seems George Bush isn’t the only one that the community agitater goes looking to blame when he’s been caught. 😆

    White House asked Bill Clinton to talk to Joe Sestak about Senate run

    Man, you goon will sink to any depths to hide, won’t you? Poor old serial rapist Clinton is now catching the blame for Bongo’s many egregious sins. First, our “first” black President was accused of racism by jackboots like you, and now he’s going to take the fall for Bongo’s criminal activity too? That’s harsh TEKEL. 😆

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/05/exclusive_white_house_asked_cl_1.html

    I’ll bet a dollar to a donut that five years from now, Ex-Pres. Bongo is taking the fall for your next Transgendered, Weedwhacker, Communist despot of a candidate.

  99. You know, this blame Clinton for the Sestak scandal is actually brilliant. I know most Democrats can’t find their butt cheeks with both hands, but when it comes to outright lying, deceit and slander, they are masters of the universe.

    I got to thinking, the jackboots in the community agitater’s camp can blame Clinton, and in return pay off Hillary’s campaign debts with some of the porkulus fund. In return, Clinton, a proven liar, under oath will never tell the truth again being he’s already disbarred. What’s he got to lose? His reputation? 😆 The only way to get the truth of the serial rapist would be to water board him.

    In return, Pharaoh Rahm and Hussein Obama don’t have to be the fall guys for committing another felony.

    While Caesar Obama fiddles and the Gulf Coast and economy burns, Pres. Shank is out playing golf in the woods, Rahmbo takes off for Israel where he is summarily booed at his son’s bar mitzvah, and neither of them are even around to take the heat on their typical Friday release of more horrid news.

    I’m beginning to find a new found respect for how masterful these goons really are. You got to give credit where credit is due. 😯

  100. And just think, Tex. All that from the most transparent president EVER! I mean, the fact that we know these things are going on is a sign of just how transparent things have become.

    @Graychin: “Travel back in time with me to those golden days of late 2001. The Administration and the Congress, their pants drenched in their own pee, rolled up every loose department they could think of into the monster we now know as the Department of Homeland Security. Not all the decisions made in creating the DHS were well thought-out, made as they were in full panic mode.”

    Now travel to today. Its 2010. A different congress is in session, being led by a different party. And a different president, from a different party, was elected more than a year and a half ago. These people could have disolved the Brown Shirted DHS had they wanted to. I guess they don’t want to.

    So just as with every other issue, blaming Bush isn’t a sufficient excuse. 2008 has come and gone, and the Blame Bush Express has left the station.

    “Someone as smart as Ann Coulter ought to get to vote twice – don’t you agree?”

    Maybe ACORN should pay her a visit and hook that up.

  101. Rutherford on health care reform: “We must do something. The status quo is not working.”

    Rutherford (and Obama) on the law and ethics: “We must do nothing. That’s politics”

  102. Huck, I don’t think we should judge Obama too harshly in some regards.

    I mean, Hussein has done a beautiful job of carrying forward with the Bush Doctrine that he campaigned so vehemently against (other than blaming America for all the world’s ills and bowing to kiss the Saud ring).

    Now, that is real transparency at work!!! 😉

  103. I asked this question because I knew you too morns couldn’t resist your talking points…

    Observe:

    Katrina: tens of thousands of hungry and homeless people are imprisoned in the Superdome, in need of food, clean water, sanitary facilites and shelter. The person in charge of the relief effort (“Brownie”) is “discovered” to be shockingly unqualified and incompetent, and is summarily fired. The feds still can’t figure out how to bring their vast logistical resources to bear on what is essentially a logistical problem in the aftermath of the hurricane, although a huge government agency (FEMA) exists and has been created for this exact purpose.

    First off, Brown was not in charge. Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin were. They pointed folks into the Superdome, after being told by the fed long before the storm ever came that the Superdome was not a safe location.

    Furthermore, the New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Action Plan- which both Nagin and Blanco ignored- called for 100% of the evacuation actions to be carried out by the City and the State. FEMA’s not mentioned in it once.

    The city of New Orleans and the State of Louisiana failed in Katrina, not Bush.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/sep/09/20050909-121037-6314r/

    Continuing…

    Gulf oil spill: No human beings are in immediate danger. An oil well has blown out 5,000 feet below the surface of the ocean, and the federal government has no known expertise in plugging runaway oil wells (or in any other realm of activity, according to most “conservatives.”) Everyone calls on the POTUS to “do something,” although they are oddly silent about exactly what he should do.

    But Obama hjust came out yesterday and told us all how they’ve been engaged since the very beginning.

    The spill is occurring in federal waters, so there can be no confusion- as exists in Katrina- about who has responsibility for what. The One, since day one, has been playing the blame game, which has been echoed with boots and neck comments by most of his Administration. Constructive really…

    The Fed should be doing exactly what the fed was doing during Katrina, handing out cash and resources, which means that Obama and his merry band of twits should have been listening to the Gulf Coast governors instead of casting blame non-stop.

    And because I know its burning in the back of your mind and since we’re on the eve of number two, lets clear something up. Bush was already on vacation, which he did every year in August, when Katrina hit. Obama begins today his second vacation since the oil spill began, and this does not include his fundraising event for Boxer. Two vacations.

    So, R my question was born out of the fact that this is not Bush redux, this is Obama’s own special little fuck up and that it greatly exceeds anything Bush ever did.

  104. Here’s a challenge to any liberals who feel up to accepting it.

    Today the Obama Administration released a statement concerning the Sestak controversy, and it cited that past administrations have done the same thing.

    Please show a single example of George W. Bush, anyone in his administration, or a surrogate of either, offering a paid or unpaid position to someone in order to keep them from entering a political race.

    If this is such a common practice, you should have no problems finding proof.

  105. Any idea why Sestak would accuse the President of a crime? Is that a good way to start your run for Senator? He won the damn primary … is he really just that pissed that he didn’t get support? For all your quotations, I think Sestak said it happened because it happened and he knows no one really gives a damn. – R

    He didn’t, he was asked a direct question and answered it directly, probably out of a CYA moment thinking that if he denied it and it came out then it would hurt him. I’m sure he didn’t think that his answer would point to the commission of a felony.

    So, what do we know? Rahmbo asked slick Willy to make the pitch for a senior unpaid advisor position to the President. Interesting development considering Willy and the One had lunch together yesterday. I’m sure their stories are much more in tune now. The thinking is that because it was an unpaid position, then all is well and good, right? Wrong. It was still an interferance with an election and in a town built and maintained by influence, having the Presidents ear is just as much currency as cold hard cash. The White House has essentially admitted to election tampering.

    Question though, will Rahm fall on the sword for Obama?

  106. Gary Coleman – RIP. The guy was a true piece of work. I remember when he slugged the gal who asked for his autograph.

    Now that’s the way you treat your fans! 🙂

  107. President Bongo even losing his approval on his so called “gigantic tax cut.” YEEHAW, deeper into the abyss you go flimflam! Dishonesty will do that to you:

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2010/05/what-do.html

    And mind you Graychin and an other brickhead so says these polls are rigged? Bongo’s pet polling – the Associated Press. Rest assured the real results are lower than that.

    I can see November from my house….

  108. Most of the time I don’t give Rutherford much thought. Every once an awhile I disagree with him so much I’m pissed. And sometimes after a day or two of reflection I even see where he’s coming from.

    However, I’ve actually been thinking about how Rutherford no longer cares about transparency or ethics when it comes to this administration.

    He is dead right on one thing. Politicians do this shit all the time.

    Yet, I’m truly disturbed that he doesn’t care. Republican or Democrat, we can’t just shrug our shoulders over shit like this. We need to at least check their rampant corruption with our collective voice. We need to at least feign outrage. They will never be ethical, so we must always be.

    I’m not calling for impeachment.

    I’m simply calling for us as Americans not to accept this bull shit. We need to make it messy for Obama or Cheney or Bush or whoever. We need to let them know that at the very least you WILL take a hit in the polls when you’re dirty. We will embarrass you. We will make press conferences messy.

    An administration using it’s might to mess with the democratic process IS serious. I don’t care if they offered the dude a job as white house landscaper.

    I’m disgusted with Rutherford and the MSM. I truly am.

    Rutherford calls me the cynic?

    What if we had 300 million Rutherfords? Can you imagine how fast this great experiment would be over?

  109. Rabbit,

    I really do think what it is going to take is for some of these bastards to lose some skin to know that we are very serious that we’ve had it with the corruption and propaganda. One of us is going to have to grab a set and make the example.

    These SEIU goons are now walking on people’s lawns to harass and intimidate – they scared a 14 year old boy to death last week as they rushed the house when he was the only one home.

    They do that at my house and I’m home, and I guarantee the last thing two or three of these jackboots are going to see is the fire coming out of barrel and “00” shot coming at their nose before they can blink. I won’t even hesitate if they start harassing my family.

    Some of these political hacks that constantly abuse power are going to have to fear for their lives to get the message, and the message may have to be repeated a few times to get it through their arrogant skulls. These bastards think they are bullet proof. And there’s a few Republicans that play this game too – they aren’t worth a shit either.

    Our Founding Fathers would not have put up with this corruption and perversion of the law. They would have hanged the bastards right in the public square, understanding that a Democracy can not tolerate injustice and bullying of its citizens. So far, it is only fascism lite – but they push the envelope a little farther every day.

    Say what you will about radical Islam. They are maniacs and killers no doubt – unjustified absolutely. But when they are through with you, the message comes across loud and clear that they aren’t going to be screwed with any longer without real harsh penalty. There’s a lesson to be learned there.

    As far as the corrupt media? We don’t play the game right. We fight on their terms and they control the playing field. When they start one of their witch hunts, we ought to go after them personally. I mean everywhere they turn, there’s dirt being dug up on them, history being gathered, records being checked. We need to make THEIR lives miserable.

    We’ve done it to a couple of the most egregious lefty hacks like Blumenthal and Arkin. You don’t see those heads popping up much anymore, do you? We need to do the same to a whole bunch more. 😉

  110. “These SEIU goons are now walking on people’s lawns to harass and intimidate – they scared a 14 year old boy to death last week as they rushed the house when he was the only one home.

    They do that at my house and I’m home, and I guarantee the last thing two or three of these jackboots are going to see is the fire coming out of barrel and “00″ shot coming at their nose before they can blink. I won’t even hesitate if they start harassing my family”

    These union goons even get police protection. You wouldn’t even make it out of your front door while armed before you got lit up by The Man who would claim they were simply defending a peaceful protest.

    These are sad times, my friends.

  111. Yep, does seem like a lot of these Repubs have problem keeping it zipped. However, unlike Obama – it’s not a felony to commit adultery. And they do resign, unlike a Presidential Sleaze.

    However, I’m not sure I would call that tit for tat with your morally bankrupt party, of which I find you a perfect fit.

    If I didn’t know better TEKEL, I would swear your name is Mikey Weinstein.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-secular-crusader-former-air-force-jag-looks-to-drive-all-christian-symbolism-from-military/

  112. Tex, you’re changing the subject again. I posted what I did in response to someone’s suggestion that conservatives dig dirt and get personal on “them.”

    You’re right about some of ’em being unable to keep it zipped. Some resign, some don’t. Sanford? Ensign?

    I would like to find a balance between in-your-face religious proselytizing in the military (ala Michelle Bachmann – and New Testament verses on gun sights) – and some bozo attempting to ban anything that resembles a cross from military facilities. How does that work for you?

  113. Tiger – you got it!

    Worst case in Sestak-gate, nothing wrong was done and nothing illegal happened. You guys are getting pretty desperate.

  114. Tiger – you got it!

    Worst case in Sestak-gate, nothing wrong was done and nothing illegal happened. You guys are getting pretty desperate.

    Funny how the law never means much to the “pious” Graychin when it his politics, his god is involved. The continual intellectual dishonesty waffles through my screen.

    Graychin, we are far from desperate and in fact are now laughing at your poor choice of support. If you think this was a “good” week for your messiah from Chicago, you’re even more deluded and stupid than I ever dreamed.

    Go back to PuffHo to get some new material. Like your humor, your defense continues to grow stale Mikey.

  115. Doucebag, I’m talking about your union thugs surrounding people’s homes threatening kids. Am I supposed to be amused by that? The desperate party is the one pushing and threatening because they’ve got no where else to run. You’ve failed pal.

    Since you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed, let me provide you a perfect example of the execution carried forth according to Tex’s wishes:

    http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2010/05/palins-douchebag-stalker-suddenly.html

    That’s how to properly treat the your friends… 😈

    Maybe now you get it?

  116. Breaking news:

    The Republican candidate for President Obama’s old Senate seat has admitted to inaccurately claiming he received the U.S. Navy’s Intelligence Officer of the Year award for his service during NATO’s conflict with Serbia in the late 1990s.

    Rep. Mark Kirk, a Navy reservist who was elected to Congress in 2001, acknowledged the error in his official biography after The Washington Post began looking into whether he had received the prestigious award, which is given by top Navy officials to a single individual annually.

    In a message on his blog, Kirk wrote that “upon a recent review of my records, I found that an award listed in my official biography was misidentified” and that the award he had intended to list was given to his unit, not to him individually.

    Another one bites the dust.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/29/AR2010052903029_pf.html

  117. Remember this nugget from our paragon of certainty just a few days ago?

    Breaking news! From the LA Times:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oil-spill-top-kill-20100528,0,5782115.story

    Engineers have stopped the flow of oil and gas into the Gulf of Mexico from a gushing BP well, the federal government’s top oil-spill commander, U.S. Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, said Thursday morning.

    This encouraging news must be a huge disappointment to those of you cheering for disaster to blame on Obama.

    So now that ‘top kill’ has been declared a failure, does this mean that Lord Zero is pitching Admiral Allen and the gravelly-voiced lilliputian intellect from Arizona under the bus too? That damn bus has killed more people than Ted Bundy…

  118. BiC,

    This is the same man that was gleefully telling us 12 hours after Rand Paul won the Republican nomination, that Kentucky was “now in play.”

    Of course, when it was announced Paul up 25 points in the initial polling once the election set, Blowhard grew strangely silent and reverted back to digging and bad mouthing Bunning.

    He’s nothing, if not a consummate hack.

  119. The Thinker Are we sure we still think Obama smart?

    What exactly is the job of the president of the United States? Let’s ask the man who currently holds that position, Barack Obama:

    My job right now is just to make sure that everybody in the Gulf understands this is what I wake up to in the morning and this is what I go to bed at night thinking about: the spill.

    Obama’s job description is fascinating. He has been depicted as a proponent of “activist government,” but this may be a bum rap. Now he tells us he thinks that if he somehow gets people to think about him and how much he’s thinking about what he thinks they think he should be thinking about, his job is done. 😆

    Which raises only two questions: First, if the requirements of his job are so modest, why is he still having trouble meeting them? Second, couldn’t all this cogitation be done at a cost of less than $3.5 trillion a year?

    Read the rest…

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704596504575272542364164212.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion

  120. 😆

    Four More Years!

    * “With Recession Looming, Bush Tells America to ‘Go Shopping More’ “–headline, ThinkProgress.org, Dec. 20, 2006

    * “Obama: Go to Gulf Beaches; Most Still Open, Clean”–headline, Associated Press, May 27, 2010

  121. Damn, I just learned who the White House is using as counsel for the Sestak cover up.

    Bob Bauer aka legal fixer – partner Anita Dunn, Mao disciple and squeeze? ** GUFFAW **

    Like cockroaches, they keep crawling back.

    Obama Blago! Chicago on the Potamac!

  122. But G-chin, I think it “smells bad.” Your selective legal and moral relativism has created a Mexican standoff.

    God, your logic is truly an idiot’s delight.

  123. In all the rhetoric we toss out around here I think we often forget there are real people on the other end.

    With that said, I hope all of the real people in Rutherford’s little virtual community (even the liberals) are having a safe and enjoyable Memorial Day weekend. Cheers.

  124. So many of the folks on this forum have been here for a year or more and after all that time, it’s hard to hide one’s true personality so while I don’t know everyone’s personal circumstances, I do think I sorta know most of the folks on here. Heck I’d say nine out of ten times, Tex can finish my sentences and I can finish his.

    So, Huck, you’re right we are all real people … I actually don’t lose sight of that too often.

    Hope everyone is enjoying their three day weekend.

    P.S. Any of you with an hour to just blow away, if you’re bored to death, might want to listen the latest episode of The Rutherford Lawson Show. Sandi actually accused me of taking my talking points from Fox News. LOL! Could you guys be having an influence on me? 😯

  125. Sandi actually accused me of taking my talking points from Fox News. LOL! Could you guys be having an influence on me?

    I only wish I could be that effective. 😉 Maybe you’re as tired of defending your side as I am of defending the self-serving hypocrites on mine who can’t seem to keep their zippers zipped, can’t keep their promises once they get there. What a pathetic cast and crew of real leaders America has anymore. I really think politics has gotten so nasty, if you have a shred of decency, you’re not going to subject your family to the nightmare.

    Let’s all pray our military has far more effective leadership than Washington. If not, we’ll all be fighting in the streets soon.

    I hope you’re having a nice three day weekend Rutherford – my wife and oldest daughter just left and that is always a bummer. We had a great weekend as a family, put the flag out for three days and enjoyed each others company. Enjoy you’re baby girl “R” – you won’ t believe how fast it goes from here. I’m a blip on a distant radar now…

    P.S. – I’ll assume you are feeling better and have just been busy? Hope so – like Huck, I miss you.

  126. Gray #142 in all fairness and honestyu though that compares to Blumenthal not Sestak.
    Sestak relates to Hayakawa.
    Sestak issue however is far from what Obama promised. Doesn’t hurt me since I don’t trust the guy as far as he can throw a baseball but if I was on his team I’d be very bitter.

  127. Alfie, your observation is entirely correct. That item has nothing to do with Sestak and everything to do with Blumenthal. The similarity between Blumenthal and Kirk is almost perfect.

    The right has gone strangely silent on Blumenthal all of a sudden. How about that! 😀

  128. Tex asked: “Tell me who Cain or Abel mated with by name, then I’ll be glad to answer your question (at Rutherford’s blog).”

    Earlier, tex said “If you have missed the most basic tenet, why should I bother to try to explain the more difficult concepts and nuances?” All I asked why Tex doesn’t believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old, but apparently I’m not worthy to learn about it. Yet Christian debate rages on and on about this very topic! The creation story is one of “the more difficult concepts and nuances”? Someone is ducking and dodging.

    The best answer I can give to your question is – I don’t know. I don’t think that the bible names any of Cain or Abel’s descendants, so perhaps they didn’t have mates at all. I think that Seth is the son of Adam who is the ancestor of Jesus, and the only other child of Adam and Eve who is mentioned. (The bible doesn’t mention most of the female ancestors of the Hebrews for some odd reason.) If you know the names of Cain’s or Abel’s mates, I would be interested in your answer.

    Is this another trick question on your part so you can dodge my question? You will recall that to begin with I asked how you reconcile the very specific genealogies in the Bible with your disbelief in an earth that is only 6,000 years old. “Accept it all or accept none of it.” Right?

    While you are at it, would you mind indicating which of the following Old Testament events are literal truth, and which are “metaphor and allegory” –

    Adam and Eve, and the serpent and the apple
    Cain and Abel
    The Tower of Babel
    Noah’s Ark
    Samson and Delilah
    David and Goliath
    Moses parting the Red Sea – and drowning Pharaoh’s army.
    God sending “manna’ from heaven each day to sustain the Israelites as they wandered in the desert after the Exodus. (Was it for forty years?)

    That is hardly a complete list of the stories that sound like “allegory and metaphor” to me, but I am interested in your take on them. Just how much of a biblical literalist are you, really?

    Don’t forget – I’d like a clue as to how you decide which is which – literal truth, or allegory. And where can I purchase the answer key?

    Finally, you said that most of the hundreds (thousands?) of Christian sects agree on the important stuff – matters “relevant to salvation.” Not true. The Catholic Church does not have the same approach to salvation as you and most other Protestants do. The “faith alone” doctrine doesn’t fly among Catholics, or the sacrament of reconciliation (penance) would be unnecessary. And surely you will agree that Catholics make up a significant portion of world-wide Christianity.

    The wide doctrinal differences among Christians make your own total certainty about all things biblical seem particularly strange to me. Much of the Christian world, perhaps the majority, must be wrong about basic Christian doctrine involving what we must do to be saved, and yet Tex Taylor in Tulsa Oklahoma has all the answers and is certain enough of everything to mock someone who dares to ask questions – and perhaps even to consider me unworthy because I don’t know the names of Cain or Abel’s mates.

    Yours is a very arrogant and prideful Christianity, if you ask me. But of course you didn’t.

  129. Graychin,

    Yours is a very arrogant and prideful Christianity, if you ask me. But of course you didn’t.

    What you call arrogant and prideful, I call truthful and assured. You try to cast doubt and dispersions where none exists. You want me to bend the rules to fit your wishes and that is not going to happen. If that is prideful and arrogant, my insistence that what is written is true and more than myth or nice story, then I plead guilty.

    ——————

    You are openly hostile to my religion and have been since I ‘met’ you. And it took me exactly two questions to put your own knowledge to the test, then determine you don’t even understand the basic precepts of Christianity. Yesterday, I showed your inconsistency in application. This is not about accuracy of theology, but political twisting and mindset. You believe if you can poke holes in my foundations,that you have defeated my reasoning. But you are not capable of doing that Graychin.

    I’ll answer your questions from above without a key or answer sheet like you answer mine. Which ones do I believe are allegory?

    Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no – discernment.

    However, from this post forward, understand this.

    I will no further attempt to answer the more difficult questions of yours when you make statements that this is the first time you’ve heard Allah and God aren’t one in the same, and that Jesus wasn’t crucified for our sins. Those are basics and common facts – the entire premise of why God provided His instruction to us. You’re wanting me to attempt to answer your Calculus questions when you can’t even add correctly.

    For four weeks, I’ve attempted to provide some insight to your questions of ‘gotcha’, only to have them followed with more questions. When I explain some it the stories are allegory, you accuse me of dodging or ducking, as if 2,000 years is being put on trial by the great Graychin.

    You want a biblical example of how silly your arguments are? You accuse me of being a “literalist” – fair enough. I do believe all of it.

    Am I to assume you will accuse me of being a fraud when I read “Christ is Living Water” or “Christ is my rock”, two obvious metaphors, I also believe Christ was not a pool of water, or a fortress? Or more likely that you’ve proven I’m not a “literalist.” That’s about the depth of some of your “gotcha” questions.

    The Bible has gone through the fire of scoffers much more clever than you and still survived intact. Not one word of it has ever had to be changed or modified for 2,000 years. Over 23,000 known archeological digs have been based on nothing but scripture and not one finding has ever proved it untruthful. And now, some lonely old man from Eucha, OK, going by the name Graychin with a penchant for left-wing politics, believes he has The Word penned down to prove it fraudulent? And you call me arrogant and prideful? 🙄

    I have no further intention of attempting to teach some old coot with a chip on his shoulder and hate in his heart towards the flock of believers. Like I said before, the one thing your type will not tolerate are absolutes or the moral authority of your Maker. You can accuse me of dodging and ducking if you wish. If people here wish to believe that, that is certainly their prerogative.

    But quit throwing up Catholicism in my face as somehow you’ve found a weakness. I’ve been married to a practicing Catholic for almost 25 years. I’ve attended more masses than I care to count, taken two different priests to lunch to discuss theology and the history of the Catholic Church, gone through their training, etc…. I think after half a lifetime of exposure, I’ve learned something of Catholicism. 🙄

    The Catholics I meet each Sunday are just as saved as the Protestants I met each Sunday growing up. Born again, is born again…the fact we argue amongst ourselves is not a weakness, but a strength. It forces us to meditate on The Word. The first century Fathers of the Church did too. Obviously, God finds a purpose in this. Perhaps it is to keep us on our toes and strengthen our character and resolve.

    Proverbs 27:17 – “Iron sharpens Iron”

    P.S. – I don’t know the names of Cain and Abel’s mates either, as they are not listed – therefore rendering the record of genealogy as obviously incomplete. That is but one small example as that was never the intent of Genesis.

    You keep telling me there are no trees, but you’re standing in the forest.

  130. I see. I’m not entitled to answers because I don’t know the answers already. Does that sum up your position fairly well?

    So be it.

    You may recall after all this time that it was you who brought up religion – as a justification for giving gays fewer rights than the rest of us. How dare I question your beliefs, and even show hostility to them. After all, you have been perfectly respectful of my beliefs at all times. 😀

    I’ll stay off the subject of religion with you if you will do the same. Fair enough? But when you start bringing it into politics again, you’re fair game. Just keep your religion out of my government.

  131. I’ll stay off the subject of religion with you if you will do the same. Fair enough? But when you start bringing it into politics again, you’re fair game. Just keep your religion out of my government.

    It was never a matter of giving gays rights, as they have the same rights as you an I do. It’s a matter of calling some perversion Holy – I will not recognize two men sleeping together in the same bed matrimonial and equal to my own. Nothing will change that.

    If you want to normalize a penis lodged in another man’s rectum equivalent to banging your wife or whatever relationship you find yourself in, so be it. It would fit with the rest of your muddled, perverted thinking.

    I reserve the right to demonstrate your weakness of content, if that is what you call your twisted form of Graychin/Obama worship.

    Please note, I’ll mention anything I want anytime it’s convenient for me to do so, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it. Unlike your ill-conceived, poorly constructed blog where you and your moronic pal talk all day to pass your meaningless existence, that place you control the dialogue by censoring and editing comments, those rules don’t apply now. There’s no blog moderator for you to whine like you used to.

    Whatever mistakes I make, at least mine are premised on something besides the fool-heartiness of my own brand of arrogance and self-absorption. I should take pity, but from the moment I read you at the T-World as snarky demagogue, sacrilegious punk, and godless provocateur, I’d just as soon watch you burn.

    Now that really is my weakness. 😈

  132. Well boys, a year and a half of Obama and the world is pretty much where McCain said it would be.

    Korean peninsula: Unstable as fuck.

    The Middle East: Unraveling.

    Iran: Celebrated Obama’s historic election win by firing a rocket. Has enough juice for two nukes.

    Mexico: Thousands and thousands dead in the war on the lawless border that Obama refuses to fortify.

    War on Man Made Disasters: The terrorists continue to get on American soil and attack. That being said, I give Obama a “B” in fighting Al Queda, despite their silly attempt to give terrorists that they don’t assassinate American rights.

    It’s easy to kick around McCain. But I thought he destroyed Obama in every debate on international relations. It’s so obvious how right he is now, isn’t?

    At least U.S/Norwegian relations have improved immensely.

    By the way, seeing the Obama brand name all over the leak becuase some con artist told the desperate, rube President that the odds of stoppage were 70% was pretty funny.

    Obama wasn’t any where near that leak until he thought he could take credit for stopping it. How embarrassing.

    I love their stat projections. Always wrong. Always dead wrong!

    What a fucking dumb-dumb this guy is.

  133. Rabbit,

    They keep telling me that Obama is smart. I hear that here, in the dinosaur media, across the liberal swag of liberal blogville, and read in the numerous near bankrupt periodicals.

    But like every parent that has ‘”My Child Is An Honor Student”, you know that probably isn’t much to brag about, being the greatest majority of children scoring poor scholastically, only a small percentile prepared for higher education.

    So that bumper sticker of Leftydom that always reads “Obama Is Smart” leaves me with the same impression when I see “My Child Is An Honor Student.”

    The Obama results say otherwise.

  134. Pelosi Says She Has a Duty to Pursue Policies in Keeping With The Values of Jesus, ‘The Word Made Flesh’

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) says she believes she must pursue public policies “in keeping with the values” of Jesus Christ, “The Word made Flesh.”
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/66208

    Wow, this must be odd and embarassing…

  135. I wonder Chin, did you really have honest questions or were you just trying to jerk Tex’s chain?

  136. I’ve a couple questions:

    — What is it going to take before they finally can Napolitano? Really.

    — Why is the Justice department so eager to investiget whether or not a crime has occurred in the oil spill but refuses to investigate Sestak and the White House when they’ve admitted to committing a crime?

    — Why is the Administration trying so hard to embrace terrorists in Gaza?

    Just curious…

  137. – What is it going to take before they finally can Napolitano? Really.
    Not gonna happen since they are using her as cover now to ramp up their anti-AZ scheme

    – Why is the Justice department so eager to investigate whether or not a crime has occurred in the oil spill but refuses to investigate Sestak and the White House when they’ve admitted to committing a crime?
    In reverse,Sestak episode not technically illegal and not without precedent. Google Hayakawa Reagan.As for pursuing BP via the legal/DoJ. It’s all they got.

    – Why is the Administration trying so hard to embrace terrorists in Gaza?
    C’mon everyone else is doing it.

  138. The Reverend Nancy Pelosi – she who speaks in tongues; forked tongues. 😆

    The Democratic party of the Damned has become a nightmare anymore. As bad as I thought this Administration would be, they are far, far worse than I ever dreamed. Today, I heard they ask James Cameron of Titanic to fame to help with the spill – I kid you not. 😆 I thought it was something from the Onion until I heard it was really true.

    Rutherford, being you’re one of the few reasonable libs, and then only on special occasions, I think you’re hiding from us because you’re mortified of what has become of your party. I don’t blame – we’re not going to hold you accountable for shilling for Bongo. We forgive you of your egregious sins.

    I hope you’re not sick and just embarrassed. Seriously, I do hope you’re feeling better.

  139. Ape – they were honest questions that jerked Tex’s chain.

    I thought they were very straightforward. He thought they were incredibly complex and that I was unworthy to receive his wisdom.

    That’s just the kind of guy he is.

  140. Hey, Mr. Diversity! 🙂

    I repeat, I answered your questions. When it comes to theology, the only chain of mine you jerk is the chain of boredom and repetition. I can answer them again, and again, and again, and you still don’t get it. Why is the sky blue Daddy? Daddy, why is the grass green.

    Let me repeat my answers so you don’t pee in your pants once more.

    Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no – discernment. Paradigm straight out of the Multicultural Graychin playbook.

    I told you when you learn to add, I’ll be glad to assist you with Calculus. Currently, you’re too ignorant to even grasp the basics as you woefully demonstrated yesterday on the two most basic questions. Your inanity about no sacrifice required after Abraham still boggles the mind. Trying to comprehend the phenomenal idiocy you carry about theology is like trying to comprehend the cosmological constant. Boundaries where angels fear to tread. 😉

  141. R, you still believe only white people can be racist?

    West Seattle beating probed as possible hate crime

    Seattle police are investigating whether a 15-year-old boy who was severely beaten in West Seattle early Tuesday morning was the victim of a hate crime.

    By Jennifer Sullivan
    Seattle Times staff reporter

    The boy’s father, Tim McClelland, told KING-TV his son was attacked because he is white.

    A detective assigned to investigate possible hate crimes is looking into the attack, which happened around 2 a.m. Tuesday, according to police spokesman Mark Jamieson.

    Once the suspects are arrested, it will be up to King County prosecutors to decide whether they could face charges of malicious harassment, the state’s hate-crime statute.

    Police say the teenager, identified by his father as Shane McClellan, was walking home around 2 a.m. Tuesday when he got into a fight with two other youths. It’s unclear who started the fight, but McClellan was beaten unconscious, Jamieson said Sunday.

    Tim McClellan told KING-TV the two youths first asked his son for a lighter then struck him repeatedly. He said his son was threatened with a gun and beaten with a belt and his neck was burned with cigarettes.

    Police said the two youths called Shane McClellan by racial slurs. He told police that one of the attackers was black and the other was Asian or Pacific Islander, Jamieson said.

    “When they were beating him with the belt [they said] that they hated white people, and that’s what the whipping was for,” McClellan told KING-TV.

    McClellan’s family told police the teen was beaten and tortured for nearly four hours, Jamieson said.

    The teen told police he awoke on the street alone after the assault around 6 a.m. and flagged down a passer-by, who called 911. Police talked to the teen around 7 a.m.

    Shane McClellan is recovering from the attack at home, KING-TV reports.

    The state’s malicious-harassment law makes it a felony to threaten, damage the property of, or physically injure someone because of ethnicity, nationality, religion, gender, disability or sexual orientation.

    Jennifer Sullivan: 206-464-8294 or jensullivan@seattletimes.com

  142. Everyone can be bigoted. Xenophobia may even be part of the human operating system, deep in our DNA.

    .snark.

    You poor, persecuted Anglo white boys just can’t catch a break in 21st Century America, can you? It’s getting so a white man can’t get a fair shake anywhere. THOSE people have taken over YOUR country.

    ./snark.

  143. G-chin, why did you delete my comments on your blog yesterday, then shut down the discussion after your friend, Bville, wallowed in the usual name calling and evasive commentary? Were you trying to protect bville from his/her stupidity or your own in misrepresenting that google map as evidence of rise in right wing terrorism?

    You said that you would not “boot” me regardless of what Tex had suggested. Yet that’s precisely what you did.

    To my knowledge, your voice has always been heard on this blog notwithstanding its frequent absurdity. I find the censorship of your own the epitome of intellectual dishonesty. Tex is right to call you out on it. Just pathetic G-chin.

  144. Tex your answer to Gray actually confused me. Are you saying of everything Gray listed, you consider only the Adam and Eve story allegory? The Adam and Eve apple story seems just as plausible as Noah getting two of every animal on his boat.

    I don’t see the harm in seeing the entire book as allegory with the exception of the resurrection, upon which the entire faith is dependent.

  145. G, the whole racist vs prejudiced argument perhaps just comes down to splitting hairs. Anyone who says blacks cannot be prejudiced against whites is a fool. As Gray properly pointed out, bigotry and xenophobia seem to be hard wired into humans.

    For a moment, lets accept my premise that racism involves an element of systemic power that mere prejudice does not. A bloody nose is still a bloody nose.

    I think it is clearer when talking about isolated exchanges between individuals, that we refer to prejudice or bigotry. When we talk about organized efforts and group-think, racism comes into play.

    What I wonder about is why the distinction between the two seems to matter as much to you as it does to me. Are you jealous that blacks always get to play the victim and whites don’t?

  146. Rutherford…glad to see you are up and alive. Your post had this:

    Everyone is avoiding comparisons to Katrina but I’m sorry folks, if this isn’t Obama’s Katrina, I don’t know what it is.

    Well the memo has been released. THIS is Bushs second Katrina.
    Silly us.:)

  147. Gray properly pointed out, bigotry and xenophobia seem to be hard wired into humans.
    Ummmm wouldn’t that be more like software? Bigotry,xenophobia,and nationalism are not to be confused with natural selfishness,esteem and defense mechanisms.
    Bigotry is learned.
    Xenophobia is learned.
    Nationalism is learned. I think this last one deserves more chatter though. One can refuse or debate nationalism. One can also accept it and not be xenophobic.
    Broad brushes get too much outside the line. Take a breath and focus.

  148. Hey “R”, glad to see you are up and around. You feeling any better?

    The Adam and Eve apple story seems just as plausible as Noah getting two of every animal on his boat.

    My reference to believing it allegory concerning Adam and Eve was this:

    And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

    A reference of Christ and Lucifer – otherwise, I choose to believe it. And I base this on what Christ taught. If it is not true, why did Christ not tell us as much? Either way, even if allegory or metaphor, it doesn’t change the premise of the story – the fallen nature of man.

    As far as the flood, virtually all existing civilizations I know have as legend a great flood. From the Sumerians to the Mayans, all have some story with a different spin. Some would say like Graychin, well this is just proof that that Moses copied the story.

    I choose to believe that is simply confirmation of a great and catastrophic flood – there is plenty of archeological and geological evidence of a great and devastating flood approximately 8,000 – 12,000 years ago around Mesopotamia which would have been the known world at the time.

    It would be pure conjecture on my behalf to say how God did it – the story of two by two. I have my own pet “theory”, much as I have a “theory” as to the existence of dinosaurs which I would be happy to share sometime. But understand again, this is only my own guess.

    I don’t see the harm in seeing the entire book as allegory with the exception of the resurrection, upon which the entire faith is dependent.

    This is not to spurn you Rutherford, but this simply can not be true by definition. First, most the Old Testament is a historical record of Jewish antiquity, the Exodus and The Law, the formations of Israel and her God, the rise and fall of Israel, the need for atonement. Even the prophetic books are in many ways a matter of historical perspective. Second, it is God revealing Himself to man through the lineage of the Jews.

    With the New Testament, you would at least be partially right, as everything written is balanced upon the resurrection of Christ, who He was, what He did, etc…But it is also a fulfillment of the Old Testament – the New Birth.

    Again, I hope you are feeling better. Let me know how you are doing.

  149. “To my knowledge, your voice has always been heard on this blog notwithstanding its frequent absurdity. I find the censorship of your own the epitome of intellectual dishonesty.”

    Guess I won’t bother going back if they don’t play fairly.

  150. You’re wasting your time if you want debate on an even playing field at Graychin’s sham blog.

    Contrary to his snarky challenge on Page 1 seeking out Conservatives for debate, like everything The Double Chin does, the challenge is intellectually dishonest and a farce.

    Old Mr. Pragmatist and/or his hack idiot assistant B-Ville yellow poodle will delete most posts that challenge the progressive mindset of leftist thought, then deny it. Worse, they’ll insert slang when and if necessary to flip the script.

    Now maybe you can understand why I baited the conniving old shit to come over here. Laugh at them enough times, and they will follow.

    Rutherford may be a lib much to my chagrin, but he’s not a censoring one. The comments stand as submitted. On the other hand, Graychin is more the proto-typical lib – a coward. 🙂

  151. “R”,

    Like the opinion gays are born that way which I think completely bogus, bigotry and xenophobia are a learned process.

    Introduce infants of the same sex at an early age into a nursery, and they don’t care what color you are. They’ll play together all day long.

    The least racist person I know in this world is my wife. I don’t think the woman has a mean bone in her body and I’ve never known anyone not to like her. Consummate mother hen and best friend. She’s got black friends and Hispanic friends she is social with in Texas – mostly from long-term working relationships. My wife has learned to roll her eyes at my smarmy ethnic comments over the years. And there is a line I don’t cross.

    Why do I mention her? Because the other night, I heard my wife and oldest daughter talking. My wife made reference to “the black guy” to describe who was who to my daughter at some social gathering they attended.

    I stopped for a second and thought, “How is that any different than identifying someone red headed or blonde?” Rational people know it is not – it is a distinguishing characteristic.

    But I guarantee you some of these phony blog monitors and do gooders like Double Chin and Hippie, always looking to demonstrate their profound sense of imagined objectivity and fairness, would find something racial about that comment – not in reference to a distinguishing characteristic, but tacit racial superiority and latent racism.

    Some of these white leftist loons go seeking to be offended and cause strife – for reasons not completely determined besides their equally imagined sense of morality. Their hypocrisy is nauseating.

  152. Jesus….

    They just locked another thread because I called them on the fact that Obama uses Bush-era policies when dealing with detainees.

    Graychin, I don’t know if that is your doing or the action of your co-blogger, but it is not a policy I would advise if you enjoy visitors with opposing views like you claim.

    Regardless of who it is, you just lost a potential regular.

  153. Huck, Tiger, and anyone else who is having trouble seeing their comments on my blog:

    The same thing happened to Tex because he was on a spam list as a result of previous anonymous bad behavior. I took him off of the spam list, but he got all pissy and hasn’t been back. All deletions were unintentional.

    Don’t blame the Dog. He is a co-author, but I am the only one with admin rights.

    I don’t know why your comments aren’t getting through, but I’m going to check it out and fix it – but probably not until sometime Thursday.

    In the meantime, I assure you that you are welcome to post there. And I’m sorry for the problems you are having. It is NOT intentional.

    Huck, I DID edit (but did not delete) one of your posts which was in exceeding bad taste – even for you. Stay moderately civilized – OK?

  154. I took him off of the spam list, but he got all pissy and hasn’t been back.

    No need to go back. I dragged your worthless carcass here to the exact place I wanted you. Reading the Yellow Belly’s imbecility gets stale quick. Grrr….too much Faux News rots the brain….Grrr, complete with misspellings.

    All deletions were unintentional.

    That’s a ten pound slab of baloney comment if I ever read one. How many inches did your nose grow on that one Pinocchio?

  155. G-chin, I suppose you deserve the benefit of the doubt. But how one suddenly finds his way to a spam list by chance after making comments that are posted, then finds “comments are closed” after deletion is mighty suspicious. The dopey chihuahua labeled me a “moron,” “troll,” “spammer” and anticipated my getting “booted” for daring to disagree with one of the most pitifully ignorant comments I have ever seen (without exaggeration) right before the trouble started??? You sure your boyfriend isn’t behind it?

    Well, hell. For anyone with a sense of humor, the knucklehead actually held out this map as proof of uncontrolled right wing terrorism in response to Obama’s presidency:

    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Queens,+New+York&msa=0&msid=100917659372037806288.0004828ef8239ccbe7445&ll=45.58329,-110.917969&spn=63.609011,173.144531&z=3

    Be sure to see what the obnoxious chihuahua referred to as “terrorism.” It includes that teenage boy in NC that went to the airport to see Obama, Sarah Palin’s “don’t retreat. . . reload” comment, someone calling Barney Frank a “fa**ot,” etc. Terrorism as defined by the Southern Poverty Law Center — an organization labeled as a left wing “hate group” under its own standards.

    Sorry G-chin, I had to get that out since I was deleted. . .

  156. I do think I made a misstatement about racism etc being hard wired into humans. Tex is absolutely right that you put any two 2 year olds in a room together and they will get along (or not) based purely on personality and temperament. Skin color won’t have a damn thing to do with it.

    So, yes, I will concede that xenophobia, etc are learned behaviors. Sadly they get passed down quite predictably and endure generation to generation, although one does see some encouraging change in attitude among today’s young folk.

    Tex, it’s funny that you remark about your wife identifying someone as the “black guy”. The first day that my daughter returned from Kindergarten on the bus, all the kids got off except her. She kinda froze in her tracks, perhaps shell shocked from her first day. My wife and I stood outside the bus wondering if she was even on there. My wife dillied and dallied and finally got the bus driver to realize who our daughter was, and she then got off. I said to my wife later, “why didn’t you just tell the bus driver, the little black girl”? Since my wife is white and I look white to most people, letting the driver understand that we weren’t waiting for a little white girl to get off the bus might have helped a bit. My wife had fallen into her habit of not identifying people racially,

    Truth is, sometimes that is the only distinguishing feature and there’s no shame in it.

  157. I don’t believe that racism and xenophobia are learned. I think that it is tolerance that has to be learned. The evidence is the universality of racism and xenophobia. But I’m ok with being in the minority here – as I am on so many other issues.

  158. Tiger, comments have never been closed on any thread. Truly, I don’t know what the hell is going on, but I’m going to find out. That clue may be helpful in diagnosing the problem.

    The Dog swears that he hasn’t deleted anything – and I believe him, particularly because he hasn’t got that level of access. I was away from all computer activity between early morning Wednesday and early Wednesday evening, so whatever happened in that time frame definitely was not my doing.

    Tex, I comment here and at Alfie’s because I enjoy it. If I didn’t enjoy it I would have left long ago. You haven’t “dragged” me anywhere. As usual, you give yourself way too much credit.

    I really do want you guys to comment over there, so it makes no sense for me to delete your comments and run you off. Tiger and Huck, you both make challenging points in your comments – wrong, but challenging. (I have no use at all for Tex or for poor, pathetic Eldric, and I’m just as happy if they stay home sucking their thumbs.)

  159. Graychin, comments were locked so that I could not comment in threads where I had already engaged in discussion and now I see that at least 1 comment about the New Black Panthers is no longer there.

    I can deal with the NC-17 censorship. But both of those above points, intentional or not, have put a real big bug up my ass. So let’s just say I will be giving you a substantial amount of time for you to figure out these technical issues you seem to be experiencing before I bother to return, if I do at all.

    Sorry for using your blog to do this, Rutherford.

  160. I see my comment about Obama using Bush-era policies on detainees has been removed, as well as the comments being locked.

    Fuck that.

    Thank you for never doing that shit, Rutherford.

  161. What I wonder about is why the distinction between the two seems to matter as much to you as it does to me. Are you jealous that blacks always get to play the victim and whites don’t?” — R

    First off, no, but more importantly, aren’t you inherently insulted by this?

    So, yes, I will concede that xenophobia, etc are learned behaviors. Sadly they get passed down quite predictably and endure generation to generation…” — R

    Who uses the ‘N’ word more? Who promotes an association based on color more?

    Really?

  162. Those of you who have had trouble seeing your comments on my blog, please try again as I have removed the spam filter and made a couple of other modifications that may help. Comments should be wide open to everyone now, including the Russian spammers.

    If you continue to have problems, please contact me at michaelgraychin@yahoo.com, and I’ll do my best to fix it.

  163. The fact that we are arguing over which race practices the most racial discrimination would seem to support my point that xenophobia (including racism) is inherent in all of us and not learned.

    Xenophobia may have had survival value for humans as they evolved (biblical literalists may want to skip this part). That neighboring hunter-gather group may have wanted to bump us off and take our territory and resources. Beware the foreigner – even when he may look a lot like us. Especially if he speaks a different language.

  164. Double Chin, I know you believe the way we “are born” excuses all sorts of bad behavior, and in fact should excuse every bad behavior except holding to absolutes, but as I said above and Rutherford agreed, hatred of other races is a learned process as proven by toddlers of different races playing together.

    Used to witness it in the “evil church” once a month when my wife and I would keep the nursery full of every imaginable color of toddler. Didn’t seem to bother them. Only the truly stupid refuse to believe what their own eyes tell them.

    But you may be partially right about evolution – as convoluted as your logic anymore, I can see you stuck on your ass with your hand stuck in a hole grasping marbles and screaming like a banshee as your captures throw you in the cage to be shipped to some zoo.

    If only you had just dropped the marbles.

  165. Alfie @ 196:

    Xenophobia is defined as the (irrational) fear of foreigners. I consider racism is a subset of xenophobia.

    The definition of “foreigners” doesn’t have to be about people from other countries. We average white Americans don’t fear Canadians and Brits like we seem to fear the hoards of Hispanics who are flooding our Southwest and will outnumber us in a few more generations with their brown skin and foreign language. Since xenophobia seems to be a universal phenomenon, I think that it must be rooted somewhere in the genes.

    In today’s world I think that xenophobia expresses itself more in our fear of foreign CULTURES than in racism or religious bigotry. Nobody worries about the Anglo Buddhist next door, because he’s “just like us.” Nobody worries about Colin Powell’s race because he’s “just like us.” But lots of people worry about bikers dressed up in their Harley-Davidson regalia, out for a spin on Memorial Day. The lily-white Irish were frowned upon as foreign trash during their immigration wave, mostly because of cultural and religious differences. (They were CATHOLICS!)

    The evolutionary form of xenophobia which I believe we still carry didn’t even involve people who looked “different.” Just the fact that they weren’t “one of us” was enough to make them a threat.

    When there is a clash between groups of people, I think it usually has much less to do with race or religion than with culture. Hutus and Tutsis. Irish Protestants and Catholics. The ethnic mix in the Balkans. Republican and Democrat “culture wars.” People “not like us.”

    Everyone can and does overcome their inherent xenophobia to some degree. All of us have friends of other races and cultures. We learn that those friends are “just like us” after all, in spite of superficial cultural differences. Eventually we can learn to judge members of other cultures as individuals and not just as members of “another” group. Even if they are Mexicans or Muslims. Or gays.

    Or Tea Party members. 😀

    Just my opinion. I could be wrong.

  166. Alfie,

    I believe someone is asking you to believe that the Bloods & Crips, MS-13, Columbia Cartels, and Tea Party members are pretty much one and the same once you get passed the differences in culture and/or the innate melanin.

    This is along the lines of the theory of all opinions and beliefs are of equal value (‘cept evil Republicans – twice over if also claiming some form of literalist Christian, be it ‘fundie’, holy roller, or Evangelical).

    And the best and most intelligent group that has best overcome these innate differences, maybe the only group successful in its quest, is the progressive party of Liberal Dimocrats. Never mind they don’t live like that…. {cough, cough}

    Something like that. 😉

  167. Gray, so you have been visited by Elric too? LOL He’s a kick ain’t he? He actually has the distinction of being the only one ever banned from here and after I lifted the ban, he refused to return. Needless to say I was heartbroken.

    I see your blog is on WordPress. Taking you at your word regarding your blog policy, if you’re having trouble with administration, let me know via email and I will be glad to give you some hints. The truth is, WordPress has a VERY effective SPAM blocker so very few Russians and pure blog-pimps are going to get through. Lemme know if you need assistance.

  168. Rutherford, thanks for the offer. If what I have done so far doesn’t work, I’ll happily accept some expert help. I put up a post this morning apologizing for the problems and promising to fix them. So I’d better deliver.

    I have been seeing Elric’s droppings over at Alfie’s blog. He’s a hoot, ain’t he? The depth of Tex Taylor, but without the verbal skills.

  169. Who is Tex arguing with at #198. It certainly isn’t me. I didn’t say anything like that, and don’t agree with any of it.

    The poor guy must hear voices or something.

    Tex, don’t forget – when you talk to God, it’s called prayer. When God talks to you, it’s called psychosis.

  170. Good grief, Double Chin.

    You’re now comparing you pitiful self to the Almighty? This entire thread you’ve been going on and on and on about xenophobia, racism, and your infinite goodness, how you have the gift of discernment, blah blah blah boilerplated hogwash from Pinocchio.

    I’m not arguing with you dummy. I’m pointing out how woefully ignorant you are. You’re in the minority, as usual, because you’re wrong, as usual.

    With your continual religious bigotry on display buttercup, I feel confident in telling you Graychin, prayer or not: The only words you’re ever going to hear from God are

    “Depart from me. I never knew you.”

    The bright side is you’ll have plenty of Progressives to keep you company for a millennium.

  171. Anybody find it ironic that Pinocchio the censoring blog owner who makes bold challenges only to delete comments that he doesn’t like, is talking about depth? Then when three or four of us point that fact out, he comes up with some ‘technical’ excuse for deletion? What a slab of baloney this old, fat man is.

    He’s got one blog pal at his blog, but he commands great depth! 😆

    That’s like some guy telling you about his diversity when he lives in an entire county that has 48 blacks.

    OH WAIT!

  172. Tex would like to make it about me. But it isn’t about me. The poor guy has a real problem.

    By the way… are you SURE that those voices you hear belong to God?

  173. Does God really talk funny like that? “Depart from me!” 😀

    How many blacks live in your census tract, Tex. What percentage of the 40,555 people who live closest to you are black. (You can look it up – if it won’t embarrass you.)

  174. Graychin Jim Crow,

    I’ll make a bet with you right here, right now. I will bet you $10,000.00 that within a one square mile radius of my house, there are ten times as many blacks as there are in your entire county.

    Are you willing to take that bet Jim?

    Your bluff has been called fat man…I have the royal flush to counter your bogus charges.

    Does God really talk funny like that? “Depart from me!” 🙂

    P.S. You ought to know Jim. Straight from that one part you like – straight out of the Sermon on the Mount. 😉

  175. I have been seeing Elric’s droppings over at Alfie’s blog. He’s a hoot, ain’t he? The depth of Tex Taylor, but without the verbal skills.

    I must come to the defense of the political yang to my yin, Mr. Tex Taylor.

    Elric had the intellect of a two-year-old. He dropped web links like pigeon turds and accompanied them with stupid one-liners, usually employing words like “al-thuggy”, “demo-marxist”, or “drone”. He also had a serious preoccupation with his perceived evils of Islam.

    Tex on the other hand, can write a cogent argument and has an opinion on just about everything, whether it involves Muslims or not. In fact, I used to get kind of hot under the collar when Tex would egg Elric on in his foolishness. At least Rabbit would now and then tell Elric to produce more quality and less quantity.

    Funny thing is, I do find that Elric argues slightly better on other blogs than on mine. I think he feels he can be expansive when the blog owner is likely to agree with him. On my blog, it was just a lot of “I know you are, but what am I?” 😆

  176. I used to get kind of hot under the collar when Tex would egg Elric on in his foolishness.

    That’s all that I was saying. Elric is Tex without the verbal skills.

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