An Open Letter to the President

Dear President Obama,

One incident is just that, an isolated incident. Two incidents is perhaps a coincidence. Three makes a pattern. I’m writing this before you have the third incident. I want to help stop you before you establish a pattern you don’t want to establish.

Last week at a DNC fundraiser in Miami, you made some remarks that at first blush tickled me a bit until I gave it more thought.

I’ve been a little amused over the past couple of days where people have been having these rallies about taxes, taxes you would think they would be saying “thank you”.  That’s what you’d think.

There are two problems with this statement, Mr. President. The first is that people protesting should not “amuse” you. It’s a choice of words that sounds terribly condescending. But there is a bigger problem. The “they” in “you would think they would be saying thank you” isn’t Sarah Palin, or Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck. The “they” are ordinary citizens who are struggling (many of them) to make ends meet. Did they get a federal income tax decrease? Damn straight they did. Do they look foolish protesting taxes generically when they should be protesting specific tax issues (perhaps at a state or local level)? Absolutely. But “they” are still your people. They are the citizens of this country, not elected officials, not megaphones like Palin or Limbaugh. They’re ordinary folks. When you speak of them in a demeaning way, you send the message that you are more the President of some than of others. A very bad message to send, indeed. You could have said, in a most humble manner, “I really don’t understand why they are protesting.” Instead, you gave the common man a kick in the ass, intentionally or not. Those who have defended you on this say you were talking to a particular audience. You know in the age of YouTube and 24/7 news, that is total nonsense. You are always talking to everyone, never just to the audience assembled at a particular rally.

Had this been isolated, I could let it pass. But then this past week while campaigning in California for Barbara Boxer, you got into a tiff with some LGBT protesters who heckled your speech. At about the 2:15 mark in the following video, the heckling began and your reaction was reasonable enough, telling your hecklers that you and Boxer support the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.

Then at the 5:24 mark things go off the rails once again. In response to a second round of heckling, you say to the protester “I’m sorry, do you want to come up here?”

Oh no you didn’t!

Did you challenge a protester to come up on the stage? What were you going to do, sock him in the jaw? Mr. Obama, you are the President of the United States of America. You are not some local pol on the south side of Chicago talking tough with the crowd. You know full well if the dude took you up on your offer, Secret Service would have pummeled him. You did not come across as wanting a dialogue with the man. You came up a bully, basically saying “I am the President, I DARE you to come up here and challenge me.” It was unbecoming to say the least.

Mr. President, I voted for you. I support your programs and I like you as a person. I have caught a lot of heat on this very blog for my support of you. I must tell you, friends don’t let friends drive drunk so I have to deliver some frank advice to you. I am no psychologist but I fear that your victory on health care reform has over-emboldened you.  It has played games with your prick-o-meter. You see, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin have permanent damage to their prick-o-meter. They are beyond the point of being able to recalibrate it. (And yes, women can be pricks too.) You, on the other hand, can take a step back and get a tune-up.

There is an important distinction that you may have lost sight of and it may lose you a second term if you do not take note. For the politician or political pundit, you have free rein. Go for it. Be as sarcastic as you want to be. They dish it out and you are completely within your rights to dish it right back. When it comes to private citizens, even those who gather in public forums, you must bend over backward to show respect. Yes, even when they act like total asses, you must show respect. Because, as President, they are YOUR asses. You are their President. You can be respectful without being patronizing. You can be respectful and still disagree with them. But you must show respect. Your enemies are looking for you to condescend and disparage. You must not give them that advantage.

Mr. President, for many years I worked for a large corporation and I can pin point the exact day when that company transformed from being special to just being another company that didn’t really care about its employees. On that day, the CEO was caught off the record blaming the sales force for the company’s ills. It was unprecedented. Executives at this company always took the heat when things went wrong and worked with the employees to change things. Never had a CEO betrayed his workers and blamed them for the company’s problems.  When you play rough with the average citizen, you remind me of that CEO. It was his undoing. I don’t want it to be yours. You’ve gone down that road twice. Let’s not make it a pattern.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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74 thoughts on “An Open Letter to the President

  1. Did they get a federal income tax decrease? Damn straight they did. Do they look foolish protesting taxes generically when they should be protesting specific tax issues (perhaps at a state or local level)? Absolutely.

    This falsehood will apparently never die. Unbelievable that you’re still clinging to it. The Tea Partiers must be 2 steps ahead of you (and the administration), because what they’re protesting is the inevitable tax burden we’re going to face as a result of deficit spending and increased entitlement obligations. That’s the source of the generic tax protest.

    As far as the President’s tax cuts go – they are not very useful to people who aren’t in the particular markets which were targeted. I didn’t buy a car or a house or take out any educational loans since ARRA was passed, so I didn’t get any tax break. And the Making Work Pay program is pointless, just as Bush’s one-time tax rebates were.

    Did Obama cut taxes? Not really. He called some stimulus efforts “tax cuts” to make it sound like he was cutting taxes. And what’s going to happen downstream? More taxes. Period.

  2. R, he is a man of patterns.

    From the “Let me be clear”s and the “Make no mistake”s that preface the whoppers as ooposed to the casual lies that tumble from his lips, he has had nothing but condescension and contempt for the average citizen since he was on the campaign trail.

    The only thing that has changed is that now he is so blunt and obvious, that even a blind man like yourself can see. Welcome to our world. You must be soooooooo proud.

  3. “Welcome to our world.”

    Exactly what I was thinking as I read most of that.

    Barack Obama cannot stand to be criticized. He has shown that pretty consistantly for the last 3 years.

    Good to see that the Kool-Aid is finally being spiked with doses of reality.

  4. Even your scoldings trying to make Obama sound magnanimous. I waffle between feeling sorry for you and shaking my head at your imagined wisdom.

    Sarah Palin waited until after she was famous to write a book. This bullying megalomaniac, Muslim sympathizer and closet Jew hater had someone pen two books in his name before anybody but his immediate crowd knew who he was. That’s not greatness – it’s a sickness and a quality all despots own. Now Obama’s true nature is coming to light – a street thug and user with a gift of gab. If we were weaker as country, this regime would act the jackboots and attempt to take over Hugo Chavez style. We are going to stop them cold. We are not going to become Venezuela with a buffoon for leader.

    Obama got lucky. I give him credit for taking advantage. He was the only Democrat capable of pulling it off. Now, he might get 43% of the vote today. His season is over and Obama will be recorded as failure and black mark in American history. As I have said before and you laughed then, the man will self-destruct when he realizes he is beat. It will be ugly, as is Obama’s nature.

  5. I read an article yesterday that said Illinois state workers and teacher’s unions marched chanting “Raise My Taxes” to cover their troubled pension plans and increase salaries.

    I believe the protesters should be accommodated, as should all state and federal employees.

    My suggestion would be when and if the Republicans take full control of the House, Senate and Presidency, their first act should be to impose 10% income tax surcharge on all state and federal workers salaries, excluding the military.

    And I believe unlike health care, most Americans would be in favor of this.

  6. Rutherford I don’t know exactly what you produce on your BTR show but I’m assuming you get more left of center listeners there than you get as viewers here. With that assumption put forth I publicly beg you to bring this post to every and any left side forum you have available to you.I warn you it will take some time and courage on your part and you won’t enjoy the response but you really should do it.

    This post imo shows an Obama fan disclosing true and credible concern as opposed to that which the gays and anti-war crowd bring up.
    I give you thumbs up.

  7. @ Tex #5- have you seen that there s a bill getting readied to have the taxpayer back union pensions? it’s called Create Jobs and Save Benefits Act of 2010

  8. Alfie,

    I have not seen that. It surely doesn’t surprise me as I have found everything this regime has done to be heavy handed and dishonest. And I honestly feel that way.

    I had an interesting conversation with my distraught neighbor yesterday. Twenty-five years ago he left corporate America and being purchasing homes (believe he has more than 30 now), building equity while restoring them. While a popular path of career today, Chuck really was kind of ahead of time and he has done pretty well. He was a CPA by trade before.

    I asked Chuck what was up? He told me he had found out just yesterday that the EPA has now mandated any house built before 1978 will be under more stringent rules of repair. Literally he can not paint a room, plumbing or electrical work, even repair a wall without gaining approval from “licensed workers”. And I have a sneaking suspicion the “licensed experts” are approved union workers, including those in Hazmat suits “checking” for lead content in the plumbing and paint before repair work even starts. They literally send results to the lab. Chuck said he may no longer be able to continue the business, and in this market has no desire to sell the homes, so he is not sure how to proceed.

    Ultimately, what Chuck predicted is there will be a huge shortage of rental homes on the horizon, as nobody will be able to afford or be willing to rent.

    If true, and I have to assume he is right as Chuck an incredibly sharp business guy, this is government bullying and meddling at its finest, and exactly the reason that rational people are starting to rebel against government.

  9. If true, and I have to assume he is right as Chuck an incredibly sharp business guy

    It is, sadly, true:

    …on April 22, 2008, EPA issued a rule requiring the use of lead-safe practices and other actions aimed at preventing lead poisoning. Under the rule, beginning in April 2010, contractors performing renovation, repair and painting projects that disturb lead-based paint in homes, child care facilities, and schools built before 1978 must be certified and must follow specific work practices to prevent lead contamination.

  10. Geoff,

    Unbelievable.

    Perhaps equally outrageous as the bogus science of anthropogenic global warming which still has legs after all the proven falsification of data, are the aggregate pseudo-sciences under the guise of public dangers presented as fact, from trans fats to chemicals.

    You name it, whether DDT, Alar, mercury poisoning in fish, lead paint, the public perceptions concerning danger are so overblown to be laughable.

    If I were the government, I’d worry a hell of a lot more about high fructose corn syrup and the accompanying fat bodied folks that follow.

  11. And so now that the bill has passed, Obama administration officials are admitting they have no idea how much it will cost.

    Repeal this crap and start over.

  12. So now your next post can work on exposing all of the lies you and your fellow Democrats have told about ObamaCare and the Stimulus. And we expect the same enthusiasm you have displayed in the past. Just pretend Sarah Palin has been defending those things.

    For example, that crap about the health insurance mandate not being enforcable—bullshit.

    Among those who are subject to the penalty, many will voluntarily report on their tax returns that they are uninsured and pay the amount owed. However, other individuals will try to avoid making payments. Therefore, the estimates presented here account for likely compliance rates, as well as the ability of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to administer and collect the penalty. In total, about 4 million people are projected to pay a penalty because they will be uninsured in 2016 (a figure that includes uninsured dependents who have the penalty paid on their behalf).

    CBO and JCT estimate that total collections from those penalties will be about $4 billion per year over the 2017–2019 period.

    That crap about ObamaCare savings—bullshit.

    But the analysis also found that the law falls short of the president’s twin goal of controlling runaway costs. It also warned that Medicare cuts may be unrealistic and unsustainable, driving about 15% of hospitals into the red and “possibly jeopardizing access” to care for seniors.
    ….
    The report from Medicare’s Office of the Actuary carried a disclaimer saying it does not represent the official position of the Obama administration. White House officials have repeatedly complained that such analyses have been too pessimistic and lowball the law’s potential to achieve savings.

    Looks like lowering the baseline of the Stimulus didn’t teach Obama the value of lowballing expectations.

    The number of jobs in the U.S. is currently 129.7 million. So to justify the Administration’s current claim of 2.8 million jobs “created or saved” by stimulus, they need to also claim that without that stimulus there would be only 126.9 million jobs. That’s exactly what they do, displayed as the “baseline projection” level in the graphic below from an April 14, 2010 report: (See link)

    An inconvenient truth, at least for the Obama Administration, is that once upon a time, in their January 2009 Romer/Bernstein Report they told America that without their stimulus there would be 133.9 million jobs. That’s right, in order to make it look like their stimulus has “created or saved” 2.8 million jobs, the Obama Administration first had to whack 7 million jobs from their previous estimates.

    And now the Director of Health and Human Services is admitting that the administration really has no clue how much this bullshit will cost us.

    We’ve been lied to. All of us. That means you too, Rutherford.

    Let us know when you finally get tired of it, OK?

  13. Rutherford your guy has just gone three strikes.You may disagree given the issue,I don’t know.

    In Arizona which is passing an excellent anti –illegal immigration law Obama has aimed this at the people and duly elected officials of AZ:
    “…irresponsibility by others.”
    And then there is…
    “That includes, for example, the recent efforts in Arizona, which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe,”

    Obama is playing the tired lines of those that hate the sovereignty of this nation and telegraphing his desire if not intent to usurp the will of the people.
    Rutherford I’ve tried to be level headed when its come to Obama,I’ve gone berserk once or twice but more for a reaction than an actual position. This is getting a bit crazy now though.

  14. So CNN now thinks that global warming causes earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.

    As we have learned, these gases form an invisible barrier that, like a greenhouse’s glass ceiling, keeps reflected heat of the sun from escaping our atmosphere. The denser that gaseous barrier grows, the hotter things get and the faster glaciers melt.

    As they flow off the land, we are warned, seas rise. Yet something else is lately worrying geologists: the likelihood that the Earth’s crust, relieved of so much formidable weight of ice borne for many thousands of years, has begun to stretch and rebound.

    There is just 1 small problem with that theory. Actually, it’s not small. In fact. it’s a rather large problem.

    By volume, water weighs more than ice, not less.

    That isn’t even getting into the fact that the oceans also sit on top of that same crust.

    This is jr. high stuff.

  15. Sorry, Obama is not a media pundit or political spokesperson. When you’re the President and you make such telling transgressions, you have permanently damaged your prick-o-meter. Moreover, this is not his second time. The entire approach to his campaign and presidency is to mock, ridicule, malign and belittle anyoine with a dissenting view. He’s simply showing his true colors (e.g. immature, thin skinned, arrogant, in need of tireless affirmation etc.).

    Like Alfie, I must admit, I Lib calling him out on this is a rarity. I would love to the responses from your posse.

  16. LOL,

    As they flow off the land, we are warned, seas rise. Yet something else is lately worrying geologists: the likelihood that the Earth’s crust, relieved of so much formidable weight of ice borne for many thousands of years, has begun to stretch and rebound.

    😆 Well, at least they got the “stretch and rebound” right. I used to work with a bunch geophysicists that would roll over and die if they read this “new science”.

    And here along, I thought sitting on tectonic plates might be problem. Now I got to worry about melting snow too!!!

  17. I understand tonight that another of the great claims of success of the Obama Admin tonight seems to be a shell game. GM learned well from the Democratic masters…

    GM paid their loan off – from an escrow account made up of taxpayer funds set up to bail GM out. 😯

    So in other words, since we own 61% of GM’s stock, if their stock happens to go up, we get our money back. 🙄 Worse, GM made a commercial I saw yesterday “bragging” of this fact they had now paid the loan off “with interest.” I’m not sure whose “interest” but their you have it!

    Sounds like a Wally Curator solution for success.

  18. I’ve had spotty internet connectivity much of the day so I haven’t had the opportunity to respond to comments. I’m hitting the hay early tonight … got Granddad’s funeral to attend tomorrow (Saturday). He was 89 or 90. Lived a full life, no complaints. WWII Veteran worked hard all his life … even lost his right arm on the job (mattress cutter in a mattress factory). Kind of lived the American Dream. Born in poverty, died with beautiful home in Long Island suburbs. No handouts, no favors …. just back breaking work and an enjoyable semi-retirement.

    We should all live such dignified and satisfying lives. He was a lucky man. (Tex, I think he was the kind of man you would admire. I don’t think he or my late grandmother were big fans of “the welfare state”. 🙂 )

  19. Rutherford,

    Sorry for your loss – sounds like a man I would admire.

    The American Dream to me isn’t so much about what you lived or what you owned, but if you were a good husband, good father or mother, and you died with some good friends.

    You got that and your health, and a roof over your head, and enough food to eat, and some pennies left over to take the grand kids for a treat, you got it all!

    Tell you Rutherford, after pursuing the rat race for a time, I’m not missing it, even while I’m going broke. 😉

  20. Rutherford, instead of venturing out of your element to pick GOP candidates for 2012, maybe you should try picking Obama’s running mate for 2012.

    Because I doubt it’s going to be Joe Biden.

    We’re going to be creating somewhere between 100 and 200,000 jobs next month, I predict.

    Even some in the White House said, ‘Hey, don’t get ahead of yourself.’ Well I’m here to tell you some time in the next couple of months we’re going to be creating between 250,000 jobs a month and 500,000 jobs a month.

    I wonder if those figures are a big fucking deal or bullshit.

    Either way, it’s worth standing up for.

  21. I been meaning to ask the “moderate” and “objective” Curator if he had reservations about Obama White House counsel Greg Craig being just hired by…by….by

    Goldman Sachs?

    By the way, this breaks campaign promise 9,422 of the transitional figure and “Yes, We Can!” man.

    Is that what yes we can meant?

  22. Some fun facts on Social Security…

    Our Social Security

    Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
    Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

    1.) That participation in the Program would be
    Completely voluntary,

    No longer Voluntary

    2.) That the participants would only have to pay
    1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
    Incomes into the Program,

    Now 7.65%

    3.) That the money the participants elected to put
    into the Program would be deductible from
    their income for tax purposes each year,

    No longer tax deductible

    4.) That the money the participants put into the
    independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the
    general operating fund, and therefore, would
    only be used to fund the Social Security
    Retirement Program, and no other
    Government program, and,

    Under Johnson the money was moved to

    The General Fund and Spent

    5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
    would never be taxed as income.

    Under Clinton & Gore

    Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

    Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
    now receiving a Social Security check every month —
    and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
    the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put
    away’ — you may be interested in the following:

    ———— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— —-

    Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
    independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the
    general fund so that Congress could spend it?

    A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
    controlled House and Senate.

    ———— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— —

    Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
    deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

    A: The Democratic Party.

    ———— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— —–

    Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
    Security annuities?

    A: The Democratic Party, wit h Al Gore casting the
    ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the
    Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

    ———— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— –

    Q: Which Political Party decided to start
    giving
    annuity payments to immigrants?

    AND MY FAVORITE:

    A: That’s right!

    Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
    immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
    began to receive Social Security payments! The
    Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
    even though they never paid a dime into it!

    ———— — ———— ——— —– ———— ——— ———

    Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

  23. What a ridicules survey. The first question on the survey should have been, “Are you in a position or have the knowledge to determine whether the stimulus has helped your business?”.

    The stimulus didn’t purport to only help a majority of companies like the NABE’s claim: rather, its effects were focused on areas where government expenditures could legitimately help state and local government. Or don’t you think keeping thousands of teachers, police, and firefighters on the payroll was a bad thing?

    Maybe the ultra liberal WSJ took the same information to conclude: U.S. Firms Raise Hiring on Optimism Over Recovery — NABE Survey
    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2010/04/26/us-firms-raise-hiring-on-optimism-over-recovery-nabe-survey/

    Perhaps Tex if your SOOOOOOO pissed about the stimulus then maybe President Bush should not have proposed and passed your ginormous giveaway?

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  24. Curator, did you graduate from the Christina Romer school of economics? Apparently, Obama did. I give you credit for the hubris of some of your falsity you post, but I couldn’t let this pass.

    The stimulus didn’t purport to only help a majority of companies like the NABE’s claim: rather, its effects were focused on areas where government expenditures could legitimately help state and local government. Or don’t you think keeping thousands of teachers, police, and firefighters on the payroll was a bad thing? – Wally “Script” Curator

    and…

    The federal stimulus act has performed “exactly” as the Obama administration expected it to, Council of Economic Advisers Chairwoman Christina Romer said Sunday.

    Have you already forgotten were told that unemployment wouldn’t go above 8% if the stimulus passed? Remember rube? Check out two graphs detailing the whopper told by you and Christina:

    http://www.agoyandhisblog.com/2010/04/05/romer-america-is-too-stupid-to-understand-my-superfantastic-advanced-math-skillz1/

    It really doesn’t matter what you think or what you can link Wally. There “is” the facts. Dispute this if you can. We are going to prove just how wrong you “public servants” and your perceptions are about the first week of November 2010.

    P.S. – I don’t want to hear you bitch about the costs of the Iraq War anymore. It certainly wasn’t anymore expensive than Obama’s public slush fund, and at least in the case of Iraq, Saddam isn’t there.

  25. YEEHAW! Obama plays the race base card again!

    Rutherford, what happened to that post racial President? African American, Latino get out to voite? Can you imagine the outrage from the hypocrites like Script Curator if some Republican candidate said, “Whites, we need to get out the vote that powered us to victory in 2000 and 2004.” 🙄

    The Degenerate Party is so hypocritical that it doesn’t even astound anymore. Al Gore should have been head of the party…

  26. Whites are already “getting out the vote” in terms of the Neo Nazi organization called the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).

    They and their anti-Hispanic, anti-Catholic, anti-African American sycophants wrote the Arizona Law.

    They actually go so far as to argue that aiding starving Africans is counterproductive and will only “encourage population growth.”

    Hey Tex… I hear they have an opening in Oklahoma on the board of the White Citizens Council.

    Seems like your kinda people.

  27. Curator, hits a little close to home about your personal hypocrisy, hey? I’m kind of surprised you had kids. I didn’t take you for the fatherly type and just assumed abortion was your choice of method.

    But ironically, with your shared characteristics of the purposeless driven life, agnosticism and hater of religion, the bitter and failed military ex, I just assumed you were a part of that crowd. I mean, the Lyndon LaRouche type – conspiratorial and anti-Semitic. Like you, they hated Bush too.

    I was trying to guess which one you were on the YouTube video. 😈

  28. Rutherford, 😆

    NO NO! Don’t kick me out of the closet.

    No, I screwed up. I meant to title myself “Bitter Clinger” with my Caesar Obama ID for the clueless Curator.

    You’re a good man. I forgot to change in my identifying email address. That was the old yahoo address. 😈

    You can kick me out of the closet. Did you get my message about contacting Dead Rabbit? I haven’t heard back, but I’ll let you know if I do.

  29. LOL Bitter, back in The Chamber you used that other email address and I actually thought it was a different person. Also made me wonder about your sexuality. 😉

    And yes, I saw your msg regarding reaching out to DR. I hope he responds to you.

  30. Should I take my (US) passport if I visit Arizona?

    Requires a reasonable attempt to be made to determine the immigration status of a person during any legitimate contact made by an official or agency of the state or a county, city, town or political subdivision (political subdivision) if reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the U.S.

    I think the answer to my question is “yes”.

    Regardless of what protections the law may intend to provide in terms of profiling people, I would carry identification or plan on becoming an example of cops erroring on the side of screwing your world up.

  31. …and now it starts.

    AZ Truck Driver Handcuffed, Forced to Show Birth Certificate

    PHOENIX – A Valley man says he was pulled over Wednesday morning and questioned when he arrived at a weigh station for his commercial vehicle along Val Vista and the 202 freeway.

    Abdon, who did not want to use his last name, says he provided several key pieces of information but what he provided apparently was not what was needed.

    He tells 3TV, “I don’t think it’s correct, if I have to take my birth certificate with me all the time.”

    3TV caught up with Abdon after he was released from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in central Phoenix. He and his wife, Jackie, are still upset about what happened to him.

    Jackie tells 3TV, “It’s still something awful to be targeted. I can’t even imagine what he felt, people watching like he was some type of criminal.”

    Abdon was told he did not have enough paperwork on him when he pulled into a weigh station to have his commercial truck checked. He provided his commercial driver’s license and a social security number but ended up handcuffed.

    So pulling into a weigh station is reasonable suspicion?

    1070 is bad law on many levels.

  32. Arizona is an example of what happens when you continue to enlarge the federal government from the public largesse without complaint.

    Nothing gets done to solve the problems, but you spend a hell of a lot of money getting there before you figure it out.

    Curator is willing to let 12MM illegals hang around as long as we grant them citizenship so they can vote for Obama through ACORN, and as long as it is somebody else getting shot and kidnapped.

    What is of paramount importance is the Curator his COLA out at the university. 😉

  33. Wall Street banks are practically throwing suitcases full of money at Mitch McConnell and his GOPhers, to include Warren Buffets favorite stooge Ben Nelson from Nebraska. These same asshole banks now have to testify in front of Congress are the same people who have been sending armies of lobbyists to Washington to kill the Regulatory Reform bill, which is the same bill that the Republicans are trying to block debate on.

    The Democrats here are not clean either for having taken so much money in the past from Goldman and banks like Goldman. It just may be that the Democrats, after years of partnership and backscratching with these firms, have finally decided to go in a different direction for the sake of needed reform.

    Tell me again who is in the pockets of Wall Street banks? Who is blocking debate?

  34. ACORN is gone idiot, or don’t you read.

    What is of paramount importance is the Curator his COLA out at the university.

    P.S. Work on your sentence structure, cause you suck at it. 😉

  35. Curator #38 and the ENTIRE left side of the blogosphere…..
    The questioning & detaining of Abdon was the work of ICE. They are federal agents and their actions are in no way dictated by Arizona state law.

  36. Wally,

    ACORN is gone idiot, or don’t you read.

    That’s news to Big Bertha, head of ACORN. Send her the message, will you Wally?

    Despite stories to the contrary, Lewis recently told NPR that ACORN was not disbanding, only transforming itself into a “leaner and meaner” operation so that it could continue its work. Lewis explained: “Some of our state chapters have chosen to go their own way. We haven’t been able to maintain the resources, state-by-state, that we had, so we have gotten a little bit smaller.

    See, I don’t need to know if you read. It’s what you read that is inaccurate Wally.

    P.S. Work on your sentence structure, cause you suck at it.

    A guy that can’t spell lecturing me on sentence structure. Irony of ironies. Even better this beauty from the incomparably ignorant Curator while lecturing me on sentence structure (please see #27):

    What a ridicules survey

    What survey was ridiculed again Curator? Guess I’m not the only one that needs to work on my sentences, hey Wally?

    😈

  37. Show a progressive this video next time they are lecturing you about the environment and the white trash at Tea Parties.

    😆

  38. Took a year and a half, but I actually see the first signs of possible humor.

    Yeah yeah….fucked up my adjective. We both suck.

    It would help me if (1) we had a preview key; (2) our blog master would enlarge the font in the text box. It’s a bitch to be accurate when you can’t read what you’ve typed. Ahem, Rutherford.

    ACORN Closing in Wake of Scandal

    Yeah, like Egyptian Islamic Jihad and its transformation opening under the new franchise of Al-Qaeda. 🙂

  39. My no-line bifocals work rather well.

    More on this Wall Street shit storm.

    Last year, J.P. Morgan’s PAC gave most of its donations to Dems. This year, most of its donations are going to Republicans.

    Last year, Morgan Stanley gave most of its donations to Dems. This year, 80% of its donations are going to Republicans.

    Goldman Sachs has been a reliable Democratic supporter, until this year, with most of its PAC money going to the GOP.

    GOP blocks reform.

    Is American Idol on tonight?

  40. WTF?

    Is this ignorant asshat serious? What about the billions in federal transportation funding they would lose if they dump the multi-language exam? This guy and his supporters are conservatives, yes? I believe so since his Dad was a one-term Governor and pal of Wallace in Alabama. Then they shouldn’t want that dirty federal money anyway!

    Alabama has a lot more serious issues than what language the driver’s test comes in. How about a 15% literacy rate?

  41. Curator,

    Your comment provides further proof of my ongoing commentary, which is of course, antagonistic to the Derangecratic’s claim of big business being in bed with Republicans.

    It’s been my experience big business is apolitical, with their intent of which side allows them to maximize their own executive portfolio.

  42. Curator that would be ILliteracy rate. Of note though your outrage is misplaced since he isn’t gonna win. It will likely be Byrne and of further note the leading (D) is a House member who voted against ObamaCare.
    Leave the windmills alone, ok?

  43. I’m sorry to have to be the one to inform some people, but most of the controversial stuff ion the AZ bill is stuff that is….wait for it….already the law!

    For example, it has been the law for more than 2 years that legal immigrants are to carry proof of their immigration status on their person at all times.

    Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

    Furthermore, it already is the law that American citizens are to produce identification when requested to do so by a law enforcement officer who has reasonable suspicion that they have been involved in a crime.

    This is a tricky issue. As a general principle, citizens who are minding their own business are not obligated to “show their papers” to police. In fact, there is no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind.
    ….
    From here, ID laws only get more complicated. In Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, the Supreme Court upheld state laws requiring citizens to disclose their identity to police when officers have reasonable suspicion to believe criminal activity may be taking place. Commonly known as “stop-and-identify” statutes, these laws permit police to arrest criminal suspects who refuse to identify themselves.

    The AZ immigration law law also mandates reasonable suspicion before asking for ID.

    All this is doing is applying the same laws to illegal immigrants that legal immigrants and American citizens have had applied to them for years.

    Aint life a bitch?

    @Curator: “AZ Truck Driver Handcuffed, Forced to Show Birth Certificate”

    A link would be nice. That way I can read the entire article to see if said driver was told they need to produce a birth cert. Because all your quote says is that she thinks she does.

    Plus there is the fact, as Alfie pointed out, that it was federal law “enforcement” that pulled that pulled over that person.

    Little details like these are important to some of us. Evidently, they are less important to others.

    “Tell me again who is in the pockets of Wall Street banks? Who is blocking debate?”

    The party who doesn’t want to pass a bill that has unending bailouts for banks is who is stopping debate. Tell us, Curator, do you have some kind of problem with banks not being allowed to have unending bailouts?

  44. Per the Wall Street Journal: (Link is to Hot Air because the WSJ piece is only available by subscription)

    Another possible purpose for the FDIC’s borrowing power is to enable the agency to provide what it calls “open bank assistance.” Here, instead of liquidating a failed bank, the agency keeps it in operation by paying off its creditors and avoiding the disruption a bank closing might entail. This practice is a straightforward bailout of all creditors, and it has been criticized extensively by Congress over the years. Yet here it is, back again, in the guise of an innocuous power to make additional payments to some creditors, coupled with virtually unlimited authority to borrow from the Treasury.

    So let’s hear from all those in favor of perpetual bank bailouts.

  45. The GOP is blocking debate btw. They are actively participating in democracy and blocked a vote on what is a flawed bill.
    also in the vein of tilting at windmills…

    The study by the non-partisan watchdog Center for Public Integrity found that four of the five biggest bundlers of campaign contributions among lobbyists were Democrats who raised a combined $1 million for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee alone.

    Reuters
    Don’t ya just love the smell of “democracy” in the morning? (or should I say mourning?)

  46. Here, instead of liquidating a failed bank, the agency keeps it in operation by paying off its creditors and avoiding the disruption a bank closing might entail. This practice is a straightforward bailout of all creditors, and it has been criticized extensively by Congress over the years.

    So let’s hear from all those in favor of perpetual bank bailouts.

    Oh…good catch, but like you said hasn’t this been around for years, or do you claim this is something new? Doesn’t seem like it is very popular in reform efforts. Maybe this is why Obama’s FDIC Chairwoman Sheila Bair wanted to get rid of it back in September.
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fdics-bair-says-open-bank-aid-should-be-blocked-2009-09-18

    “So-called ‘open bank’ assistance for large complex firms should be prohibited,” Bair said at an event Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business. “This assistance puts the interest of shareholders and creditors before that of the public.” .

    I’m glad Obama’s administration is not in favor of those perpetual bank bailouts.

    Thanks for reminding us.

  47. Bair says:
    Regulators can only do so much; and if the bank or the investment bank’s customers aren’t demanding better behavior, it’s going to be difficult for the regulators to do it by themselves.
    Sadly Sheila and her minders won’t focus productively.

  48. @Curator: “…but like you said hasn’t this been around for years?…”

    Has it?

    If I am interpretting your link correctly, the open bank assistance is part of “the FDIC’s Temporarily Liquidity Guarantee Program.”

    “Temporary” is the operative word there.

    Do you think this proposed legislation includes the word “temporary” when discussing this? I am betteing it doesn’t. And I don’t think we should have to pass it to find out….do you?

    Let’s look at what else Bair said…

    “Bair also said the agency could consider borrowing from the Treasury to stock up on its deposit-insurance fund. The FDIC collects fees from retail banks that are used to pay depositors of failed banks. However, the agency is slowly running out of capital for the fund as a growing number of banks default every week.

    “We are carefully considering all options” including borrowing from the Treasury, Bair said to reporters after her speech, according to The Wall Street Journal.”

    Gee where have I seen this before? Oh yeah…my link.

    “Yet here it is, back again, in the guise of an innocuous power to make additional payments to some creditors, coupled with virtually unlimited authority to borrow from the Treasury.”

    Saying is 1 thing, doing is another. Let’s let Obama show how much he is against this practice by refusing to sign a bill that includes it.

  49. I think we’ve made a break through on why the left doesn’t understand the AZ law.

    Imagine that, those folks at MSNBC helping the rest of the left understand the main premise of the bill…

    Two words

    FUCKING

    STUPID

  50. Yeah, spin = fail actually means you have no argument against what I have pointed out, so you aren’t even going to attempt it.

    Smart play.

  51. @LOL

    So you see something wrong with collecting fees from investment banks, insurance companies, equity firms and hedge funds who would pay for their own bankruptcy instead of the taxpayer?

    The FDIC is for retail banks, not these other idiots who ran a casino on Wall Street.

  52. Just a few comments before I go to bed:

    Tex, your middle-aged eyeballs have been bitching about my blog for over a year. Press Cntl and + at the same time and it should increase the fonts of the entire page including the comment box. (Unless you’re on a MAC … in which case you get what you deserve. 😉 ) (NO, I don’t hate Apple … in fact I love my iPhone).

    “LOL” I’ve acquired a whole new respect for you. You actually acknowledged that Hot Air is a rag and the only reason you quoted it was you couldn’t get to the original WSJ piece. BRAVO!!!! If only Elric were here to see it. 😆

    Read my next post to see how I weigh in on the Arizona debacle. There’s also a little red meat for you Obama-haters out there!

  53. Rutherford,

    And here I came in late to check up on you. You’re hardly heard from, and now you go and insult my old age. It’s not my middle aged eyeballs – it’s my middle-aged lens.

    Tex, your middle-aged eyeballs have been bitching about my blog for over a year. Press Cntl and + at the same time and it should increase the fonts of the entire page including the comment box.

    Yes, that is better. I won’t bitch so much anymore. 😉

    Are you suffering from blog burn out? Are you working? Are you twittering? Babysitting? Where have you been? We’re lucky to get to insult you three times a week anymore.

  54. So you see something wrong with collecting fees from investment banks, insurance companies, equity firms and hedge funds who would pay for their own bankruptcy instead of the taxpayer?
    Yeah I do!. They pass expenses onto the consumer are an industry that regardless of size deserve to fail if they do indeed fail.
    Can’t we as a nation grow up? This is the society you get when every kid regardless of talent/ability gets a trophy. America dies.

  55. For Bitter Clinger,

    I don’t know you, nor do I care who you are.

    Do you generally categorize all those one, two, or three hitch military types as bitter and failed because they didn’t serve till retirement? Make sure you visit Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) iava.org and tell all those thousands how you feel ..mmmkay?

    Types like you are not hard to figure out. You and your fringe pals are very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to your dullard leaders, Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, half-term Gov. Sarah Quitter, Orly Taitz, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions). The Birthers and the Tea party crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and gray than the black and white that you simpletons make it out to be, and that my friend is the point.

    Arizona can pass race based laws, pass Birthers laws and the state can continue to boycott Martin Luther King Day, while the rest of the Country boycotts the state of Arizona and spanks them where it hurts them the most… their pocket book. Their phony patriotism is sickening, they are just racists going by another name. You probably are just itching to put a sheet on your head and join them.

    Why don’t you do something worthwhile and investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love”.

    Here is a list: Assemblyman, Michael Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC).

    Maybe you can single handedly re-establish your family values party, but that’s like saying that the Catholic Church cares about the welling being of children in their care, too late for that.

  56. ““LOL” I’ve acquired a whole new respect for you. You actually acknowledged that Hot Air is a rag and the only reason you quoted it was you couldn’t get to the original WSJ piece. BRAVO!!!! If only Elric were here to see it.”

    And I am equally proud of you, Rutherford. You have finally admitted that Barack Obama is a thin-skinned hack that isn’t worthy of the title President of the United States of America.

    If only your 4-year-old were here to read it.

  57. “So you see something wrong with collecting fees from investment banks, insurance companies, equity firms and hedge funds who would pay for their own bankruptcy instead of the taxpayer?”

    Are you having trouble with reading comprehension these days, or did you just not click the link?

    FDIC wants to borrow from Treasury to give failed banks an “orderly liquidation.” (Sound familiar?).

    Where does Treasury get its money?—Taxpayers

    Is there any assurance that money is going to be paid back?—No (unless the payback is funded by a different bailout bill, as with GM).

    I don’t give a piss what Bair said 7 months ago. This is the reality of what is going on now. And the reality is that this bill will allow FDIC to borrow taxpayer money to bail out bank investors. Money that we may well never see again…ever.

  58. Curator,

    To prove how incredibly “SLOW” you are, see this comment you made?

    Types like you are not hard to figure out.

    Well yeah, undoubtedly I am. Because my ‘Bitter Clinger’ name was a “joke” referring directly at your bile published by you from above of which Rutherford and I had a laugh over. I didn’t hide who I was, including the damn Caesar Obama avatar right beside the Bitter Clinger name.

    You’re such an easy target, I don’t even attempt to be clever anymore. I just wing balls at the monkey cage and watch you jump around. I know you think you’ve been stiffed in life and that you’re brilliant, and the world just doesn’t know it yet.

    But if you can’t even figure out the obvious, like who the hell just responded to you, then why in the world should we believe you are qualified to psychoanalyze anyone and debate difficult issues? Half the time, you can’t even do basic math here on the board, your science and theological knowledge neonatal, and your Klan characterization now status quo in virtually every response.

    Now go hunt for some new material and insults and get back with me…

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