The GOP Didn’t Care Enough to Even Debate Health Care

This is what the Republican members of the Senate did tonight. They voted unanimously that health care reform in this country was not worth debate. Period. No tort reform. No interstate sales of insurance. None of their other supposed solutions that sidestep the public option. Nothing. No debate. Just kill it.

A bunch of irresponsible bastards who will have your children’s blood on their hands if heaven forbid your children 20 years from now can’t get a job with health care and suffer a catastrophic illness. You have today’s ignorant Republicans to blame for your children’s future suffering.

As much as I disdain Joe Lieberman, at least he voted in favor of debate. That’s all we wanted tonight was a chance to carry the ball forward, to debate and amend. That is the American way. Well that is unless you are a Republican dead set on bringing down the Presidency of Barack Obama.

Well guess what, suckers. We had the votes, the votes came through and the debate will commence. I hope the obstructionist punks keep saying no all the way down the line so that true patriotic Conservatives can take notice and throw their sorry asses out of Congress in November of 2010.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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58 thoughts on “The GOP Didn’t Care Enough to Even Debate Health Care

  1. I hope the obstructionist punks keep saying no all the way down the line so that true patriotic Conservatives can take notice and throw their sorry asses out of Congress in November of 2010.

    They will have much company next year and in 2012 when the sorriest ass of them all is thrown out. Big fish to fry in the next three years and you can rest assured millions of us will be doing everything we can to make sure the rotting head of a stinking fish and his cabinet of incompetent thieves are recorded as the biggest mistake the collective American public ever made. We will remind worthless liberals of the mess they’ve made.

    It will be a wonder if we can recover from the putrid environment Obama has created. We’ll fumigate the White House, change the mattress and the carpeting, remove every vestige of his sick existence and history.

    Jimmah Carter will look good in comparison to Obama, and hopefully Obama will be scorned for the rest of his natural existence by the great majority of Americans as a traitor, a puppet, and a racist in the mold of Jeremiah Wright.

    The history books will record Obama as they will Neville Chamberlain – a useful idiot.

  2. I was quite pleased we got to 60, still, we have a long journey ahead.
    The Fox News Party of No proved today they certainly don’t believe in putting “Country First”.

  3. Wow R I don’t want even the slightest credit for inspiring this thing.
    You are so entrenched in your rhetoric it’s astounding. I guess I could give you some props and look at it as passion.
    i wonder when you say

    You have today’s ignorant Republicans to blame for your children’s future suffering.

    Do you have even an inkling of the same disdain for the budget busting,soul sucking idiocy of the Lefts social policies and entitlement programs?
    The dems got the votes to move to the next step. This next step of course is the disgusting portion of American democracy. This is where the line items,amendments and pork gets packed on.We call it debate but it is nothing of the sort.
    I also have to call you out of sorts R. If the Republicans are intent at being against the concept of a public option,big government,Medicare fucking health bill, that one way or another will definitely alter the US economy forever, at what point are they not supposed to offer united opposition? You are clear on the concept of opposition aren’t you?

  4. From the AP wire…
    WASHINGTON – Senate moderates on Sunday threatened to scuttle the health care bill if their demands weren’t met, frustrating rank-and-file Democrats who say their colleagues’ views were out of step with American voters.

    It’s like I’m a freakin genius- huh?

  5. Perhaps Rutherford could reflect on the suffering of our children concerning the horrid public education attributed mainly to liberal persuasion and indoctrination? Another fine job of ruining something good.

    Liberals can’t even raise their own children – those they’ve chosen not to conveniently abort, that is…

  6. Perhaps Rutherford Lawson could justify the $300MM buyout for the Louisiana vote? A state I might add that has received billions in federal aid recently. Is that the transparency and honesty we can expect from our illustrious super majority Democratic Congress to “get the vote”?

    Is that your idea of upstanding and honest public policy Rutherford?

    Please enlighten us with another post about good citizenry and the effectiveness of “good” government. About Democratic honesty and integrity. About Obama’s transparency from the man of Hope & Change.

  7. Rutherford,

    Can you now show the honesty to admit that not only have your ridiculous temper tantrums and banning alienated many of your posters, but that the thrill of Obama is gone?

    Can you have the honesty to admit what has driven you crazy the last six months is that you realize Obama has been such a polarizing failure the last six months with the series of bogus world-tour apologies, massive borrowing and deficit spending, health care debacle, and government-take overs of private spheres is causing a ground swell of anger in the electorate?

    Can you have the honesty to admit that this anger has the potential not just to take Obama down, but also your ideology with him for a generation?

    I know you’re angry and scared. But it is time for you to gird up your loins and act like a man.

    It will “liberate” you… 😉

  8. Methinks everyone has gone turkey shopping. Tex have a happy Thanksgiving and feel free to stop by in2thefray any time.
    I don’t know if I’ll be stopping by here much in the future and I definitely don’t think I want to see a Rutherford post inspired by tryptophan.

  9. I don’t know if I’ll be stopping by here much in the future and I definitely don’t think I want to see a Rutherford post inspired by tryptophan.

    😆

    If Rutherford goes to eating turkey, followed by banana pudding during the Thanksgiving buffet, no telling what kind of a snoozer post we might get.

    But with Sarah P. out touring and Obama sinking like a uranium weight tied to the end of the liberal line, I can’t believe that he won’t be back.

  10. Do you mean to tell me R that you think the Dems will gain seats based on Healthcare and the legislation passed thus far this year?

    I just want to write this down for prosperities sake. It’ll be fun to look at in about 12 months…

  11. Regarding comment 2, Ian, welcome to the blog and you are absolutely right, the road ahead is long indeed. And just to be clear, the current legislation is imperfect to say the least. I’d love to see some changes but the idea of not even going through the process to change it … that is what steams me. That is what tells me the Republicans don’t give a damn about health care reform.

    Folks might not like Chris Matthews but lately he’s been asking GOP legislators a fantastic question. If you have an alternative to improve health care in America, where have you been the past 8 years (to say the least … try 30, 40, 50 years)? Where were you when you had a President and a majority? What did you do about health care then? Not a damn thing.

  12. at what point are they not supposed to offer united opposition? You are clear on the concept of opposition aren’t you?

    You offer opposition in debate. You offer opposition by voting down amendments and proposing new ones. You work to create the legislation you want.

    Now, are you telling me the Repub’s unanimously voted against debate because they have no faith in the process beyond that point? If that is true, isn’t that pretty pathetic? If that is true, we should throw the whole bunch of bums out and start over.

  13. It’s like I’m a freakin genius- huh?

    I still don’t think you get the point. Moderate Democrats have every right to threaten to kill the legislation if it has a public option or anything else offensive. You see, they were not afraid to let the matter go to debate. That is the point. They moved the ball foward and now have every right to demand the changes they seek.

    This whole idea of a vote in order to vote is preposterous to me but I didn’t write the legislative rules. Bottom line is Dems said let’s move forward and hash this thing out and Republicans stuck their head up their collective ass and said “f*ck you.”

  14. Perhaps Rutherford Lawson could justify the $300MM buyout for the Louisiana vote?

    You know what? I’m not tickled about the “Louisiana purchase” but I call that seeing how the sausage gets made. Legislation is not for wimps. There are compromises and even a little selling your soul to the devil to get things done.

    As for transparency, if there weren’t transparency Tex, how would you even know about this? It didn’t get hidden. Landrieu herself addressed it in an open forum and said she had no regrets.

  15. In 2019, our bill for paying off the debt will be $709 Billion dollars, right now it is about $209 Billion dollars.

    When this Healthcare bill is examined cost-wise, properly- ten years of income against ten years of expences, its actual cost is $2.5 Trillion dollars.

    Really R, who’s fucking future generations?

  16. You’re so clueless and dishonest…

    You know what? I’m not tickled about the “Louisiana purchase” but I call that seeing how the sausage gets made. Legislation is not for wimps. There are compromises and even a little selling your soul to the devil to get things done.

    These are back rooms deals of libbieland that you live. What you call sausage being made, I call a bribe and theft. That is the difference between you and me.

    As for transparency, if there weren’t transparency Tex, how would you even know about this? It didn’t get hidden. Landrieu herself addressed it in an open forum and said she had no regrets.

    Landrieu discussed it in an “open forum” as you like to call it after she was called on it and was caught. Thanks to the Army of Davids called the internet, you can’t get away with extortion and stealing as easily as you used to. Landrieu would never have said a word had the Drudge Report not picked up on it first. This is simply buying votes…the only policy that works for liberals such as yourself.

    The time of your Caesar and his corrupt policies is coming to an end soon…

  17. I suppose it’s inane for the Rabbit to dramatically quit the blog, only to be outed as a lurker in the stupid Live Traffic Feed.

    Besides, I was so outraged by Rutherford’s support for endowing terrorists with Constitutional rights that I think I made the right decision in not writing anything. I literally could have broken the law.

    Luckily, I have since then put things in perspective.

    1. Most liberals do not remotely support Obama’s and Rutherford’s gift given to Al Queda. I’m not talking about people who go on TV shows. I’m talking about hardcore voting liberals in the street. Northern union fuck sticks. They are as baffled and outraged as I am.

    2. Rutherford will instinctively defend anything with the Obama brand on it. This is so much more then politics to him. Obama breathes fire into an otherwise impotent, disabled, old man’s carcass on wheels. While the concept of deriving my identity from another man’s swinging balls is so foreign to me that I sometimes forget that we all have unique reasons for getting up to face the day in the morning. His happens to be the first black president who is far to the left. I can understand that.

    Thus, I am pledging not to go bonkers over the consistent party line that is found over here. In fact, when completely cornered and peppered by enough virtual flak, Rutherford will sometimes actually apply logic.

    As for his feigned outrage over the filibuster attempt, that was beyond funny. Rutherford says he is slightly miffed about Louisiana being bribed. On the one hand it is sausage making, on the other a great patriotic principal in action. Sometimes sausage fests are not fun. How can anyone be called unpatriotic for not wanting to enter a debate over the government potentially taking over 1/6 of our economy under the shadow of votes beings sold for the hundreds of millions?

  18. What kind of cold meds are you doped up on?
    You say

    Now, are you telling me the Repub’s unanimously voted against debate because they have no faith in the process beyond that point? If that is true, isn’t that pretty pathetic? If that is true, we should throw the whole bunch of bums out and start over.

    but then say

    You know what? I’m not tickled about the “Louisiana purchase” but I call that seeing how the sausage gets made.

    Dude! cut it out!
    You top of the shit sundae with this cherry.

    There are compromises and even a little selling your soul to the devil to get things done.

    How about having the steadfast integrity to say NO,mean it and not waver all the while communicating with your employers (the voters) and getting support for your position.

  19. “You offer opposition in debate. You offer opposition by voting down amendments and proposing new ones. You work to create the legislation you want.” — R

    Vast majority of ammendments put forward shot down, most not even debated, bill written in secret without GOP participation, and yes, there are GOP bills written to address this, and yes, they were written before the Dems. The Dems are intentionally preventing GOP bills from being put on the docet.

    Your full of shit on this.

  20. And oh yeah…

    I still don’t think you get the point. Moderate Democrats have every right to threaten to kill the legislation if it has a public option or anything else offensive. You see, they were not afraid to let the matter go to debate. That is the point.

    No I am a freaking genius as I correctly called out the act and reasons to follow of the politcal play hay. You don’t get the point. Strike that,its worse than that. You get the point but turn away thinking “If I don’t look at it it doesn’t exist”. You know it exists! Man the F#$% up and admit it! In another thread (the rich countries I think) you touched on it. Be straight.

  21. Check this out, poll after poll shows the American people do not support this, some as high as a 16 point split. Tell me R, when the vast majority of the American people disagree, do you care?

    Interesting polls Gorilla. As you can guess I’d love to know the demographics on those polls. I also found it interesting how many of them referred to “Obama’s health care reform”. Obama, to the great frustration of many, has no health care plan. He has provided insufficient guidance or prodding. So placing his name in the question prejudices the answer for anyone not already favorably disposed towards Obama. (Yes I know one could argue that with Congress having an even lower favorability rating, mentioning Obama could skew the answer more positively … who knows.)

    There are still polls that say the majority of Americans favor the availability of a public option.

  22. The Dems are intentionally preventing GOP bills from being put on the docet.

    This is the GOP pity party line. The Repubs submitted their “plan” a couple of weeks ago and it didn’t address the problem. And I repeat …. where were they when they had a President and a legislative majority? How much did they care about health care reform then?

    The truth is the GOP owes the Dem’s a bit wet kiss because the Dems don’t walk single file behind an ideology the way Conservatives do. There is sufficient dissent within the Democratic party that it will be very hard to pass meaningful health care reform. Sadly, that’s the opinion of the former DNC chair Howard Dean. So, in the end the GOP will likely get what they want, nothing.

  23. How about having the steadfast integrity to say NO,mean it and not waver all the while communicating with your employers (the voters) and getting support for your position.

    Well, that is what is particularly frustrating about Landrieu is that her employers are suffering big time and yet she is waffling on this legislation. There is no doubt that Reid should have told Mary to pound salt but she obviously scared him enough that he caved.

    The funny part of this is, she claims she will not vote for a public option so the bribe to get her to vote for debate, not for the bill, will be rendered null and void if she does not vote for the bill when the time comes.

    My position here Alfie is simple. I think certain tactics serve the public interest better than others. Trying to get a bit of extra cash for your state seems to me a minor offense compared with sticking your head in the sand and refusing to debate no matter what compromises have already been offered.

    You guys seem to forget that the true left solution is medicare for all. The Repubs have already gotten compromise with the opt out. There is no compromise that will satisfy the GOP and you know it.

  24. Dead Rabbit, thanks for noticing the “live traffic feed”. Sometimes I think when I add features to the blog and don’t actually announce them that they don’t get noticed. To be honest, I don’t think anyone could be sure you were lurking since I think you and Sensico hail from more or less the same neck of the woods.

    Now on your various points:

    Point 1: I always said that the decision was in my estimation a close call but I held suspect the Conservative reaction to it. I won’t re-open that debate in this thread,

    Point 2: Wow you do have a way with words. I assume the old man’s carcass you’re referencing is mine … I walk 98% of the time (using a mobility scooter only for very long distances) so the old carcass is not on wheels. But on top of that, your internal logic is faulty since you don’t feel Obama’s balls swing. In fact, you consider him an impotent leader. So it would be quite odd for me to vicariously be ballsy through him. Doesn’t makes sense. (On the contrary, I think a lot of folks backed Bush back in the day ‘cos they were basement dwelling dweebs who got their hard-on via Bush’s swagger.) But enough with the psycho-babble,

    Thus, I am pledging not to go bonkers over the consistent party line that is found over here.

    What I find tremendously amusing about this is that you, Tex and Alfie have at one time or another in the past few days said you wouldn’t be “stopping by much” anymore, almost as if you expect me to be a conservative blogger. I am a liberal dude. I try to be a rational liberal. I do try to call out liberal BS when I see it. But I am a liberal. The idea that my liberal rants alienate you and “the gang” now, after you’ve read my stuff for the better part of a year (some of you longer than that) defies logic.

    ROTFLMAO … maybe Elric is right. He has commented (yes he still comments) that folks are leaving my blog in droves because they love him more than they love me. Wow, could Elric have been my secret weapon of success? Should I not only un-ban him but invite him to be a co-blogger like The Rigorist in days of old? Trouble is, and you all know this perfectly well, Elric can’t string two sentences together without link dropping. So, I guess that ain’t gonna happen.

    How can anyone be called unpatriotic for not wanting to enter a debate over the government potentially taking over 1/6 of our economy under the shadow of votes beings sold for the hundreds of millions?

    This speaks volumes about your approach and does not surprise me because you’ve said as much in the past.

    You feel certain things are not worth debate. Not worth consideration. Right or wrong. Done deal. You consider most so called intellectuals navel gazers who don’t stand for anything. So it is perfectly logical for you to feel that government intervention in our health care system (beyond Medicare and Medicaid) is not worth further discussion. Your approach does not surprise me.

    Welcome back DR. By commenting you really did blow your own cover cos I didn’t know you were lurking. I took you at your word after a couple of days that I’d lost you until 2010. 🙂

    P.S. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

  25. Really R, who’s fucking future generations?

    Gorilla, let’s accept your premise as correct. Now I weigh on one side a healthier but more in debt citizenry or a citizenry with no deficit and a rank in the 30’s of most healthy nation. I like the former scenario better,

  26. Do you mean to tell me R that you think the Dems will gain seats based on Healthcare and the legislation passed thus far this year?

    There are a couple of answers to this. First, yes health care reform in some way or another must get passed to get Obama and the Dem’s a notch in their belt for 2010. If they fail at this, they will be deemed impotent by the base and they will be in trouble.

    But mind you, when I say I hope Conservative throw their asses out of Congress in 2010, I’m not suggesting a mass conversion from GOP to Dem. I’m saying that Conservatives may actually wise up and start installing the Dede Scozzafava’s of the world who can work across the aisle and get things done.

    One thing I have said consistently is that the only way for the GOP to be productive is to be moderate. The far-right just say no party will get nothing but resentment as conditions worsen and they are seen for not contributing to a solution.

  27. I know you’re angry and scared.

    Tex, I’m not sure I’m all that scared (at least on a macro level … my current personal situation scares me a bit but that’s a different story). But I am angry. I see Congressional gridlock because people care more about ideology than solutions. Yes, that royally pisses me off.

  28. Ehhh Tex, I’m almost afraid to ask but how are liberals to blame for the state of public education? I thought “no child left behind” was a Bush invention.

    One of George’s stupider moves if you ask me in a weaker moment to appease and “work with” the drunk and murderer Teddy Kennedy and other worthless Dimocrats. However, this just provided more additional funding to the NEA and company. But hey, I’ll admit a huge mistake on the Republican party and we can give that funding back to the taxpayers. How about it?

    Rutherford, if you’re concerned about the state of public education which sucks and ranks dead last in industrialized nations as you scold us about health care, why don’t you cut the duplicity and give your supposed free spirited, open minded, pro-choice party your permission to support:

    (1) Vouchers to parents for education
    (2) Renounce the NEA – a shill left-wing hatchet organization
    (3) Demand that the Department of Education funding be rerouted elsewhere and the Dept. be disbanded?

    Did you know that the bastion of left-wing politic, which grants more money per child for public education is the D.C. area? Did you know that they also have the poorest U.S. test scores and a graduation rate of less than 50%? Did you know who is #2 in the flunky list? How about MaO Obama’s home turf?

    Congratulations MaO…

  29. Specifically to NCLB it had great merits until government bureaucracy got its hands on it. It was needed due to liberal agendas and actions as well as other left wing crap like unions.
    Good bye Rutherford. You will be a hard habit to break but one that must be kicked. Have a good life-honest and best wishes yadda yadda. -Alfie

  30. “R”,

    Guess we are going to find out which one of us was right Rutherford. Your claim that about 50/50 of the victims of 9/11 would support Holder’s decision. Or my claim that you couldn’t be more wrong and a large majority of the victims will fry Holder at the stake. Well deserved, I might add.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/23/911-families-issue-call-to-action/

    And just when I thought the faction of the party you support couldn’t get anymore dumb, I read they have now proposed a surcharge on the sale of stocks, bonds and derivatives to “create jobs”. I’m sure that will create millions of new jobs… 🙄

    Please, please Rutherford I do beg of you. Keep riding down the path you are following. You will go down as a supporter of the laughing stock of American history.

  31. “But on top of that, your internal logic is faulty since you don’t feel Obama’s balls swing. In fact, you consider him an impotent leader.” -Rutherford.

    Good point. I stand corrected.

    “I am a liberal dude. I try to be a rational liberal. I do try to call out liberal BS when I see it. But I am a liberal. The idea that my liberal rants alienate you and “the gang” now, after you’ve read my stuff for the better part of a year (some of you longer than that) defies logic.”-Rutherford

    You really are not a liberal. You are an Obamaist. If you were a liberal your blogs would be full of outrage over many of Obama’s failures.

    In fact, a true liberal would be outraged over the lack of legal rights the stink beards will be getting in Federal Court and stunned over the mutilation of our court system for the sake of politics and foreign policy.

  32. The Rabbit is correct Rutherford – I have mistakenly been calling you a liberal. For the most part, you really don’t qualify because no matter how clouded their judgment, liberals have standards.

    About right now, you should be screaming that poor Khalid has already been convicted in the court of public opinion – that he stands no true chance of acquittal. This is the KKKos way.

    What you really are is a straight up Obama rube like Keith Olbermann without much personal regard for critical thinking. What ever Obama believes, you believe. Whatever Obama says, you say. Click your heels and salute Comrade Rutherford – Obama needs you for the cause.

  33. About right now, you should be screaming that poor Khalid has already been convicted in the court of public opinion – that he stands no true chance of acquittal.

    Even though I don’t want to get back into a lengthy KSM discussion again, I do want to address this point that you, Gorilla and Rabbit have made.

    The fundamental premise behind our criminal justice system is that it is better to let 10 guilty men go free then to imprison one innocent man. That is why we have the “innocent until proven guilty” approach. That is why the burden is upon the prosecution. In every day application, this translates to “you know he did it, I know he did it, we all know he did it, BUT you still have to prove it”. In reality every man is tried in the court of public opinion. For 90% of criminals we use the word “alleged” as a form of politeness and legal correctness when we know full well the dude did the deed.

    KSM is no different. We all know KSM is guilty. What makes our country great is that we have to prove it before we jail him or kill him.

    So when you and your “ilk” jump on Holder and Obama for the “forgone conclusion” that KSM will be convicted you’re being disingenuous. Every prosecutor says the accused is guilty. That is nothing new.

  34. As for my being an Obama rube and not a liberal, one could say I should beat up on Obama for not being far enough left. I haven’t written any articles on it but I am disappointed that he hasn’t moved the ball forward on don’t ask don’t tell, for example. Or that he is continuing the practice of rendition.

    But let’s look at the past few posts:
    GOP Didn’t Care … how is that about Obama other than the fact that the GOP wants to bring Obama down at any cost? Liberals (sadly) seem to be the only ones really interested in health care reform. The article is liberal … no pro-Obama.

    Sanity and Tea Parties: Liberal … and nothing to do with Obama.

    Prosecution of KSM: An article about conservative hypocrisy. Liberal.

    5 Rich Countries: Again, health care … nothing about Obama.

    Muslim problem: Again, absolutely nothing about Obama.

    I could go on. I submit it is you my dear Tex who is obsessed with Obama to the point that you can’t even see how your own party is in self-destruct mode and is DOING nothing to further your interests.

  35. Rutherford,

    My “allegiance” to the Republican party pales to your cocksucking of MaO. It is sickening how much of a toady you are.

    Just as Obama’s poll numbers continue to sink lead weight, so does the character and content of your blog. You are a propagandist not interested in facts – this place has become pure spin. You’ll learn the hard way in about ten months how wrong you and the feckless Curator are with respect to reality vis-a-vis your opinions.

    As far as Curator’s ignorance about the economy and “Mao’s success”, I’ve addressed it so many times about how Curator is completely clueless, I’ll just say this: one trillion stimulus dollars spent – 3,000,000 jobs lost. No matter what scale Curator wants to pick for his “graphs” to skew facts, those are the hard numbers.

    And nobody, not even the Dimocrats, are trying to spin the stock market recovery as Obama’s doing – not even some stretched rectum like Barney Frank makes that claim. That is the biggest joke of them all. Only a true comrade rube like Wally would try to pull a stunt like that.

    Your time in power draws short Rutherford – better pick up the pace of lying, because it obviously isn’t working in the largest part of America. Obama’s only hope is that he gets a Conservative Congress in 2010 to rectify the problems and he gets to take partial credit like the serial raping President Clinton while it is being fixed. Don’t think it is going to happen, though.

    The fact is that Bill Clinton, although a scumbag and liar, is a million times smarter and more talented Jeremiah Jr.

    Too bad for you…

  36. By the way Wally,

    Why don’t you look up these facts for us concerning Afghanistan. Actually, one will do as we check how well MaO Bama conducts war as the military turns against him too:

    The number of American casualties in October 2008 vs. October 2009.

    If I were you, I’d be instructing my own son to go AWOL as Obama sells him down the river. That’s your flesh and blood hanging out there on the line, and if Obama’s mismanaging the war on terror has not given you pause, then you’re even dumber than I thought.

    Glad it ain’t my kid fighting to save Obama’s worthless ass reputation…

  37. Is the fact that the GDP grew by 2.8% in the third quarter another “hard number” you choose to ignore? Where does that credit belong?

    Funny… AWOL American troops fighting Bush’s occupation of Iraq where called traitors by the non-serving wingnuts not too long ago.

  38. Moonbat Curator,

    Do you honestly believe that the GDP “growth” – which by the way not too many months ago was considered stagnant and not growth at all, is attributable to Obama and his policies.

    Tell you what. I’ll give Obama credit for the 2.8% growth in the 3rd quarter when you give George Bush and his policies credit for driving the S&P and Dow Jones to record levels two years ago with no unemployment. Fair enough?

    I was just wondering if you considered yourself a tool for sending your own flesh and blood into harm’s way when you’ve got a CiC that not only has not served either, but considers the military at best a photo op, too “brilliant” to follow his own general’s advice? Now if your son happens to get mowed down, will it be George Bush’s fault, because I have a really hard time following along with your rationale and conclusions many times?

  39. Your flippant attitude towards our military is all I needed to hear to understand you didn’t have the balls yourself to serve in the military. What was wrong??? Did you have a boil on your ass like El Rushbo or other priorities like Cheney? I think President Obama just doesn’t shoot from the hip like your hero Boy George did, and that just doesn’t give you the hard on like it used to under W.

    Obama’s “photo” op is on the tarmac at Dover AFB saluting the casket of a fallen solder while Bush wraps himself in his mission accomplished banner for his photo op on the USS Lincoln. That is some comparison. Thanks for reminding me.

  40. My “flippant” attitude has little to do with the military and everything to do with you. You hide behind your service because it is the only noble thing you might have accomplished, or will ever accomplish in your miserable existence.

    You didn’t answer my question as to whether you will have misdirected your son into harm’s way under the gutless leader that didn’t need the excuse of boils on his ass to not only not serve, but didn’t even need to follow the law to enroll in Selective Service. So your gutless hero is not only gutless, but a felon. That puts me one step ahead of Obama. And that is all I need to understand, that although I don’t care to know about your balls, I know all I need to know about your head.

    So will it be Bush’s fault Rambo if something bad happens?

    It came down to that difficult choice of higher education or peeling potatoes for the platoon slash cranking the wrench to remove helicoptor rotors?

    When it I was your son’s age, the worst President of all time (until Obama) had so gutted the military, that during military exercises men carried broomsticks during training exercises.

    It was a difficult choice to be sure: be like Curator, or not to be?

  41. Damnit R, first I didn’t even know you wrote two posts since the last one I comment on and since someone else mentioned it, I’m not necessarily thrilled by you having this Live Feed widget on your blog. It makes coming here undesirable. With that said, it doesn’t give the exact city location I’m in, except…recently! The widget sucks, take it down, please, for my sanity.

  42. LOL Sensico, I would never have pegged you as paranoid as Rabbit. I could have sworn you were from Canberra, Australia or Tacoma, Washington. 😉 😉

    Sorry my friend … this is actually one of my favorite widgets and I don’t spend ANY time trying to match comments to locations (besides I can get an approximation on that just by doing a WHOIS on IP addresses if I really cared). I get a major kick out of seeing where around the globe people are stumbling upon the blog. It also confirms what I already knew. Most people who read blogs don’t comment.

    So relax, unless you blow your own cover, your undisclosed location is safe, Ms. Cheney. 😀

    Now, while you’re here you might want to weigh in on the abortion question. With any luck you’ll spice things up and turn out to be a pro-life woman. That’ll get the boy’s tongues wagging.

  43. damn right I’m paranoid, I hate widgets like this. As far as all of you are concerned, I’m just some girl in a midwest undisclosed location. Anyways, I probably won’t relax, but I guess I’ll deal with it.

    As far as abortion goes, Tex’s argument is false, obviously. There’s just a fundamental difference on when a small ball of cells in the womb is considered a human being. I’m sick of arguing with conservatives about it. I will say that it’s so convenient to say you’re against abortion. Meanwhile the democrats have ideas and ways to work on keeping the kids that are here, safe, clothed and educated. Unfortunately this can hardly go that far when another important party (GOP) has no concept on how to improve life for children that are already here.

    I don’t care if there’s misspelling in my comment either, I’m not double checking it cause I’m leaving to go to sleep. It’s Thanksgiving, hope you all had a nice one 🙂

  44. Densico,

    There’s just a fundamental difference on when a small ball of cells in the womb is considered a human being.

    With the exception of you, every human being ever born was a small ball of cells in the womb.

    You were that little “cling on” stuck to your mother’s ass that slipped in to the mix. Helps to explain why your hair looks like shredded Charmin mixed in with a fecal stream.

    I’ll approve of any abortion, including the numerous one you’ve already had, if you’re the breeder.

  45. There’s just a fundamental difference on when a small ball of cells in the womb is considered a human being.

    Really? I find that to be such a compelling argument, even when the Supreme Court has had its share of difficulties in trying to decide where exactly that line is, but please, by all means, turn the spigot on your font of wisdom and enlighten us, please.

    Perhaps while your at it, you can tell us why the “choice” of a mother to murder her child is sacrosanct, but the choice to use birth control has no bearing on the discussion when in both cases, you’re still contemplating an act that would create a life incapable to speak in its own defense as part of the process.

  46. Meanwhile the democrats have ideas and ways to work on keeping the kids that are here, safe, clothed and educated.

    And isn’t that funny that only their ideas on the subject are those they deem worthy of serious debate. And the fact that such ideas continue to marginalize and shut out any solution that doesn’t consider government, and its “morality” as the answer? And when the existing examples are called out for their failure to do anything other than embody waste, and to turn the beneficiaries of the government’s largess with other people’s money into dependents and the politically beholden, the only answer from those who would defend such failure is that “we need to expand such programs, and spend more, and somewhere along the way, we will fix those problems.”
    And in so doing, they take more from those who believe differently, limiting their ability to decide whom and how they will help, while growing the ranks of their own political slaves who have been so inadequately educated that they are simply incapable of recognizing the shakles on their wrists and ankles which chain them to their government “benefactors”.

  47. BiW,

    Its useless talking to her. She won’t respond with anything substantive. She’ll call you ignorant and then run back to her propaganda hole.

    The “small ball of cells” argument is ludicrous and nonsensical from the get go. Really, will that “small ball of cells” turn into anything other than a human? Can someone document for me when that “small ball of cells” came out as a canine or a feline or anything but a human life?

    And you are right about the intellectual dishonesty she’s displaying about dems and children. Dems have no interest in debating theories, and they certainly have no interest in reviewing the success or failure of their policies. Dimwit would be challenged to defend the War on Poverty but has no qualms in continuing the faulty premise of redistribution. After all, taxes are charity to her… 😉

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