Lessons Learned from Election Night 2009

With 20/20 hindsight, nothing that transpired last night at the polls should have surprised anyone. Let’s look at some of the lessons learned:

It’s the Economy, Stupid

None of us can forget that day in late September of 2008 when John McCain said he would suspend his campaign until the economic crisis had passed. In particular, he was suggesting that his upcoming debate with Barack Obama be cancelled. Obama responded that a President needed to be able to do more than one thing at one time. Well, ten months into his first term, one has to wonder if Obama has taken on too much at one time. Last night’s election of Chris Christie in New Jersey and Bob McDonnell in Virginia signal that there is one overwhelming concern among average Americans and that is jobs, jobs, jobs. McDonnell ran with the moniker “Bob’s for jobs” and Christie promised to lower taxes. I think it’s fair to say that most people aren’t connecting health care reform with improving the economy. Unless we escalate our war on terror on a par with one of our old World Wars, we won’t see the “war industry” employing lots of people the way it did in the 30’s and 40’s. The push to go green has not yet produced substantial employment opportunities. So with Obama focused on health care, Afghanistan and climate change, many Americans are left scratching their heads on where the jobs are coming from. These gubernatorial elections should send a message to the White House that some economy/job focus needs to happen fast … and show results fast.

Don’t Take Moves from the Republican Playbook

2008 was the year of campaign silly season, led by the Republicans who threw every ridiculous charge at Obama that they could (charges that persist ten months after his inauguration). Sadly, neither the Corzine nor the Deeds campaigns learned that, particularly in serious times, you don’t run trivial campaigns. Corzine made fun of Christie’s weight and ran nasty ads about supposed criminal wrong doing gone unpunished. Deeds made a big stink about some paper McDonnell had written over 20 years ago. If you can’t battle your opponent on current issues, you ought not to be running.

Wash off the Wall Street Stink

This one is easy. Americans hate fat cat wall street veterans with a passion right now. Corzine’s history as head of Goldman Sachs might not have hurt him in his first run, but now it is virtually the kiss of death unless you have a very good story to tell in the “now”. With a very low approval rating, Corzine’s current story couldn’t wash away the Wall Street stink.

Don’t Embrace Endorsements from Ass Hats

In the NY-23 race, the minute Doug Hoffman got his Facebook endorsement from Sarah Palin, he should have known it was over before it started. Then Glenn Beck jumped on the band wagon. Before you know it, Hoffman was being lauded as the Tea Party Candidate. When Republican Dede Scozzafava got pushed out of the race, she had the good sense (and the courage) to back the Democratic candidate, Bill Owens. Hoffman didn’t understand that when people are hurting they want a serious representative to take up their cause in Washington. They don’t want a perceived wingnut. Of course, it is no surprise that Hoffman eagerly accepted the support of Palin. He was essentially a male version of Palin: totally ignorant about the local issues important to his potential constituents. Of course it didn’t help that he was a carpet-bagger. But even carpet-baggers like Hillary Clinton could succeed with hard work, learning about their adopted home, as she did with New York. Hoffman was not that smart.

The RINO You Have is Better than the Wingnut You Don’t

The fact is Newt Gingrich was right this time. Sure Scozzafava was not chosen in the ideal way (i.e. by primary) but the bottom line is no matter how liberal she was, she was unlikely to buck the Republican caucus in the House all that often. She would have been a reasonably reliable vote. Now thanks to the interference of Palin, Beck, Pawlenty, Armey and others, the 23rd district will send a Democrat to the House for the first time since 1873. This should be a wake up call to the GOP that moderation is not a bad thing.

Liberals are Lazy

Without the galvanizing motivation of putting a ground breaking President in the White House, liberals sat on their asses last night. You can’t win if you don’t play.

The Age of the Referen-dumb

If we had decided civil rights for blacks and women by referendum, we would probably still have a Jim Crow south  and women not voting today. Why in the world are the equal rights of homosexuals being decided by “popular” vote? The gay activist groups need to get this issue before the courts quickly so that eventually the Supreme Court can rule marriage discrimination unconstitutional and be done with it.

The overall lesson learned this year is that voters are not interested in right-wing or left-wing extremism or trivia. They are looking to people to solve problems and the biggest problem right now is finding employment and keeping your home. It’s a bi-partisan lesson that better be learned by both parties as we move into 2010.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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136 thoughts on “Lessons Learned from Election Night 2009

  1. Sharia cab in New York City: Muslim cabbie kicks out gay couple

    A few years ago when the Muslim cabdrivers at the Minneapolis airport were refusing to carry passengers who had alcohol, several people pointed out that it would set a dangerous precedent to allow cabbies to select passengers according to Sharia rules. If a cabdriver could reject a passenger who was holding a bottle of whiskey, he could reject a passenger who was eating a ham sandwich, or an unmarried couple, or, as here, a gay couple. And the American principle of equality of access would be overthrown in favor of a religious discrimination that would enshrine Islamic law as a higher law than the law of the land.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/sharia-cab-in-new-york-city-muslim-cabbie-kicks-out-gay-couple.html

    Multiculturalism ROCKS!!!!

  2. Pakistan’s Taliban fighters are deeply opposed to modern education, particularly for girls, and have blown up schools and attacked teachers across Pakistan.

  3. Earlier Wednesday, a group of militants ambushed a van as it traveled near Khar, the main town in the Bajur tribal region, killing two female teachers and wounding two other passengers.

    Approximately 10 militants hid on both sides of a rural road and sprayed the van with automatic weapons fire as it went past, said local official Adalat Khan. The attackers then fled on motorcycles.

  4. Brave Iranians Hold MASSIVE PROTEST Against Regime – Chant “Obama, Obama Are You With Regime Or With Us?” (Video)
    Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 5:38 AM
    Jim Hoft

    Sadly, Thuggy always sides with tyranny

  5. No, Rutherford. The lesson learned last night is there is no referendum for your type. 2008 was a perfect storm of unpopular President, tanking economy, and a wish for some type of change. Obama the small god was a myth. People should have known it when Bomba though Rev. Jeremiah was a “spiritual man”. There was no mandate as I told you last year. You got it wrong again.

    Unfortunately, the type of change the Americans got has been far worse than anything Bush could have done. There were 25 point swings last night – 1/4 of the electorate changed its mind. And last night was a reflection that your side ain’t cutting it. Dismal failures once again.

  6. Sure Scozzafava was not chosen in the ideal way (i.e. by primary) but the bottom line is no matter how liberal she was, she was unlikely to buck the Republican caucus in the House all that often. She would have been a reasonably reliable vote.

    Man, you need to put down the box of “shrooms” and get your head in the game. DeDe was a fan of eugenics – a damn award winner from Planned Parenthood, a tax and spend giveaway gal for the left. The RINO’s couldn’t have picked a more horrific candidate. Might as well nominate Cindy Sheehan for us.

    I’ll take a Conservative, military man named Owens in a military town over some wretched POS like that pig any day – we’re cleaning house Rutherford and are willing to take a bump or two in the road to do so.

    When are you going to get rid of Nancy Pelosi?

  7. The gay activist groups need to get this issue before the courts quickly so that eventually the Supreme Court can rule marriage discrimination unconstitutional and be done with it.

    I really wouldn’t expect you to understand this, R., but you should know that unlike other landmark marriage rights cases (Loving v. Virginia, Zabloki v. Redhail, etc.) there is a startling lack of objective criteria to use as a basis for a pro-gay marriage decision.

    However, as the courts have increasingly become the preferred avenue for achieving results that could not be achieved by legislative means, I do expect that sooner or later, the federal circuit courts, and eventually the Sups will hear a case on gay marriage. Of course, having matters that touch First Amendment issues for gays and nongays alike decided by unelected jurists who increasingly fail to meet their own standards for judical conduct, and have demonstrated an increasing proclivity for deciding cases to get to a predetermined outcome rather than holdings based on sound legal reasoning lead to the rise of referendums as a means for average citizens to regain a voice abdicated by craven legislators and usurped by an unhumble judiciary.

  8. Earlier Wednesday, a group of militants ambushed a van as it traveled near Khar

    I’m beginning to think that Ben=Elric. The same bad habit of posting off topic comments even before trying to address the topic at hand.

  9. What do you care Elric? You don’t support gay rights.

    Because when adherents of a political philosophy that is hostile to western thought and common law are allowed to individually impose their beliefs on members of our society in violation of lawful protections that have been legislatively conferred, it is an attack on our society, and no society has long stood when it either ignores the asp biting it, or actively takes the vipers to its bosom.

  10. BIW,

    Notice that the Sharia cab didnt bother the drone, just attacked me. But then, thats what drones do, attack the messenger, not the message. Very Alinsky

  11. If we had decided civil rights for blacks and women by referendum, we would probably still have a Jim Crow south and women not voting today.

    Ummm actually we passed some Constitutional Amendments to make those things happen. So basically the American people did indeed speak up via the vote for them.

    Liberals are Lazy

    You have to admit that the Obama administration came out for the D-team. Within the past couple of weeks I read how team Obama was on the ground using its accumulated campaign funds to support dems and keep hope alive for his re-election. If that is so where the hell was the Obama base? They didn’t show. The million folks Corzine got were probably die hard D’s and union hacks.
    NY23
    Something I failed to appreciate fully previously was that this was a special election. Lets see if Hoffman stays in there and runs again via the real way,primary and all.
    I will say this though. The anti moderate crowd need to lighten up. Last night was about a lot of stuff not just some conservative phoenix.

  12. BiW, first of all, where is the “objective criteria” to be used as a basis for an anti-gay marriage decision?

    Gay marriage does not threaten heterosexual marriage, nor the institution in general. The prohibition against it is based on nothing but ignorance. The great irony is that the typical criticisms of the gay community (perversion, promiscuity, etc.) are rendered null and void by their eagerness to embrace the grand tradition of marriage and family building. There is no basis upon which to deny them that privilege. When the ignorance of the people holds sway, it is the job of the judicial to enforce justice. That is why the referendums must be turned upside down by some judicial activism,

    Regarding my comment to Elric, when you disrespect the gay community and then hold yourself as a judge of others who disrespect the gay community, you are a hypocrite. Plain and simple. I suspect Elric and the average Muslim have more in common about their attitudes toward homosexuals than they have differences.

  13. Mmmm, Ben is either stoned out of his mind today or has decided to be the RL Blog comic relief.

    I could go a couple of ways here:

    Squirrels = Muslims
    Squirrels = Liberals

    My guess is, Ben would go either way. 😉

  14. Gay marriage does not threaten heterosexual marriage, nor the institution in general.

    No, it threatens somethings far larger – all of society’s norms. It is obviously a perversion and everything about it goes against natural law. Even Obama recognizes this Rutherford.

    Libs don’t have a laissez faire attitude – they have an agenda to ram through every form of unrighteousness.

    The only reason you have become a huge advocate lately for gay marriage Rutherford is everything else you’ve argued for is falling apart. Twelve months ago, gay marriage wasn’t even on your radar. Now to hide the dismal performance of liberalism, you’ve got to find something to adamantly support.

  15. Constitutional Amendments

    Alfie, constitutional protections were ignored until solid civil rights legislation was passed and enforced in the 1960’s I submit we had political leaders (e.g. LBJ) willing to strong arm reluctant legislators to defy the wishes of their ignorant constituents. This current business of civil rights being denied by popular vote is disturbing to say the least.

    If that is so where the hell was the Obama base?

    Like I said, Liberals are lazy. They need to see stuff on Oprah to get excited and get off their ass. I’m very disappointed with their behavior last night.

    The anti moderate crowd need to lighten up.

    On that, we completely agree.

  16. Tex … this is one area in which Obama is dead wrong. I’ve always been troubled by the extent to which his religious concerns influence his public policy. This is not one of Obama’s winning stances.

    Gay marriage got on my radar when Prop 8 was passed in CA shortly after my college roommate had just married his partner of many years. I saw how the whole thing hurt him. He’s a decent, hard working man, a devout Christian (believe it or not … his partner is a minister) who happens to want intimacy within his gender. He doesn’t want to hurt anyone or convert anyone. I don’t see why he should be denied the privileges afforded to other couples who love each other.

    If marriage had nothing to do with f*cking, no one would give a damn about gays getting married. We need to grow up.

  17. Funny how the drones are “concerned” about Thuggy’s “religious” beliefs affecting his policy but not his marxist pro tyranny beliefs.

    Well, Elric, there is a difference between your political views being influenced by political philosophy vs being influenced by what many consider parable and allegory. I can object to Marxism but I can’t deny its intellectual integrity. The same cannot necessarily be said for religion.

  18. If sex weren’t part of the equation, it wouldn’t be called homosexuality Rutherford. 🙄

    This is one of the few issues Obama got right, which says he will cave on this issue too.

    You and Densico still think those tea parties are a bunch of crap after last night’s results?

    Another in a long list of missteps by that MSNBC crowd you like to parrot.

  19. Am I not getting something here?

    Al Gore puffs his chest out and brags that he “puts his money where is mouth is” in response to criticisms that the dude is cashing in BIG time on his environmental shtick.

    The problem is, he’s acting like it’s traditional profit.

    As if he invested in some gadget that sells like hot cakes.

    Is this so called “profit” nothing more then government cash thrown at his pet projects in an arena where Gore gets back room hand jobs?

    He simply cashed in on nothing more then the very government policy he engineered!

    Am I wrong?

    Fucking guy ripped us off, folks.

  20. Rabbit,

    I can understand Rutherford’s lovefest with Obama. I really can because of the politics, the history, the school kinship, etc…

    But in all seriousness, I’ll be damned how anybody can support Al Gore. If there is a bigger hypocrite on this planet, including people like Hugo Chavez, I don’t know where to find them.

    You would think even liberal Democrats would call this despicable man out. And it sure makes the Nobel even less worthy, huh?

    How’s the Mrs. and the little one?

  21. Tex,

    I’ll take a Conservative, military man named Owens in a military town over some wretched POS like that pig any day – we’re cleaning house Rutherford and are willing to take a bump or two in the road to do so.

    You sided with a Democrat who is an upstate, rich, liberal, lawyer committed to health care reform.? A Democrat backed by the SEIU, and the AFSCME unions to the tune of half a million bucks.

    You make me laugh.

  22. Wally holder of vast Microsoft Certifications,

    You sided with a Democrat who is an upstate, rich, liberal, lawyer committed to health care reform.? A Democrat backed by the SEIU, and the AFSCME unions to the tune of half a million bucks.

    You make me laugh.

    Good, I’m glad I could give a loser and American hatin’, potato peeling, washout like you a laugh. You won’t be laughing about time next year. Truth be known, you’re not laughing now as you see the writing on the wall.

    See Wally, what you fail to understand is, short of a few losers on the left like you, I hate RINOs more than I do Obama. And this pig of a candidate was further left than Obama, masquerading as some representative of smaller government. How many times Wally have you seen me say here that the Republicans need to clean up their own house first? It is necessary to destroy fools like you, which is my ultimate objective.

    Here’s how Big Bill advertises himself:

    http://www.billowensforcongress.com/free_details.asp?id=1

    I know you’re not terribly educated Certified Wally, but your myopic nature would never understand what must seem like madness to a hardcore lib like you. That is, to take two steps forward, you might have to take one step back. 😉

  23. By the way Wally. I noticed you disappeared the other day when I shredded your moronic responses about Obama’s raving successes.

    Much like the service record, looked like you flew the coop before the battle started. 🙂

  24. Hey Rutherford,

    I just took a look at Wally’s site. I noticed you like to leave the occasional post there. Feel honored. You represent about 25% of the comments there the last month. You’re always ragging me about why I don’t have a blog? It would interfere with my time to reading and make fun of blogs like that.

    Looks like Wally’s got a son attempting to live off the spoon his daddy so hates…makes about as much sense as Wally’s family history and being a Jimmah Carter liberal.

  25. So attacking my family now huh bootlick. My son is on his way to Afghanistan in three months. I guess since his politics is much like his fathers you would wish the same hate filled rhetoric towards him that you wished on me not to long ago.

    Tell me bootlick…do you wish for him to get his “ass kicked” while serving in our armed forces? You said as much in one of your past rants about service members who’s politics may be liberal. He is not a conservative that is for sure, so the world would be better off without him. Right Pastor Tex?

    Have you made your pilgrimage to Faithful Word Baptist Church in Arizona so you and the rest of the hate mongers can all jack each other off?

    You backing a rich, union backed, Democratic lawyer because you hate RINO’s makes about as much sense as Joe “You LIE” Wilson voting against H1N1 funding, then bitching about the supply of H1N1 vaccines.

  26. You and Densico still think those tea parties are a bunch of crap after last night’s results?

    ROTFLMAO … ESPECIALLY after last night’s results! The Tea Party singlehandedly sent a Dem to Washington from a traditionally Republican district. It doesn’t get any better than that! LOL LOL LOL 😀

  27. Voting no on gay marriage bad but its ok for gays to get kicked out of Sharia cabs.

    Well, I’ve said this before but it bears repeating. Elric, you’re an ass.

    You know full well I don’t condone gays getting kicked out of “Sharia cabs”. I just don’t think you’re in any position to judge the matter considering the disdain in which you hold gays. Hypocrite.

  28. Rutherford,

    You still haven’t figured out, have you? Politics may be local, but state elections aren’t, and you got your ass handed to you twice over last night.

    I know you’re not a betting man, but would you be willing to place a bet on your sure thing next year big shot?

  29. Wally, Rambo and Certified Oracle assistant,

    So attacking my family now huh bootlick. My son is on his way to Afghanistan in three months. I guess since his politics is much like his fathers you would wish the same hate filled rhetoric towards him that you wished on me not to long ago.

    Who attacked your family? I said it looked like your son was going to be living off the same spoon you so love to bitch about. Feel pretty confident with Obama at the helm now, do you? You shouldn’t.

    Tell me bootlick…do you wish for him to get his “ass kicked” while serving in our armed forces? You said as much in one of your past rants about service members who’s politics may be liberal. He is not a conservative that is for sure, so the world would be better off without him. Right Pastor Tex?

    If he’s a chip off the old block, he’ll be hanging at the back lines. No worries Rambo.

    You backing a rich, union backed, Democratic lawyer because you hate RINO’s makes about as much sense as Joe “You LIE” Wilson voting against H1N1 funding, then bitching about the supply of H1N1 vaccines.

    Like Rutherford, you don’t get it. Owens wasn’t my candidate of choice. I simply said I’d rather have him, even if he’s a flaming lib like Rutherford, than some Planned Parenthood Award winner masquerading for the supposed smaller government party. Besides, it will last one year – and you can’t fuck up worse than Obama has been doing the last 10 months.

    By the way, that certainly makes more sense than you the American hater steering your son to put his ass on the line to defend Pastors like me, huh sport?

    Like to come in and be a prick, even when I’ve tried to take boot off your throat and ignore you, look me up dickhead. I’ll play the game. 🙂

  30. That is, to take two steps forward, you might have to take one step back. 😉

    No, sadly, Tex is missing that this is the first in a long series of steps back. Both Christie and McDonnell were moderate conservatives, not right wing nutjobs. Sarah Palin and Dick Armey will be seen as the sideshow that they are while serious Republicans take on the current administration.

    I won’t sit here and guarantee a Democratic sweep in 2010 but I assure you, if folks are unseated, it won’t be by the Tea Party crowd.

  31. Rutherford,

    You know full well I don’t condone gays getting kicked out of “Sharia cabs”. I just don’t think you’re in any position to judge the matter considering the disdain in which you hold gays. Hypocrite.

    And I don’t see you’re in any position to be judging religion either Rutherford. Not only are you a hypocrite, you’re a coward of the first degree. You’ll screech about Christianity all day long, but the real threat of religion is hanging in your backyard and you’re too frightened to admit it.

    You know damn well Elric speaks the truth and because of some imagined fatwa in your beady head, you ignore the obvious.

  32. Oh Rutherford,

    Do you happen to have any idea where McDonnell graduated from college? And you want to call him a moderate? Completely clueless.

    😆 😆 😆

  33. You backing a rich, union backed, Democratic lawyer because you hate RINO’s makes about as much sense as Joe “You LIE” Wilson voting against H1N1 funding, then bitching about the supply of H1N1 vaccines.

    Curator, Tex reminds me of a conservative talk show host I saw on Hardball last night (can’t recall the name) who said that regardless of the NY-23 outcome it was a win for conservatives.

    You see, Tex and his ilk have a burn the village approach to politics. If things don’t go exactly their way, they burn the whole mofo down. It’s almost as juvenile as “I’m gonna hold my breath till you do what I say”. This approach will continue to bite them in the ass as it did last night in upstate NY.

    Looks like Wally’s got a son attempting to live off the spoon his daddy so hates.

    Tex do you realize that if I read that sentence in a drunken British accent, you sound just like Christopher Hitchens. Or perhaps an effete Oscar Wilde type? Not exactly the image I think you’re shooting for. 😉

  34. Oh … and once again, Tex confuses number of comments with site traffic. You have absolutely no idea (nor do I) what traffic Curator’s blog gets. But as you’ve readily admitted, his gets more than yours does since you don’t have one.

  35. Right Rutherford. That’s why I cast my vote for John McCain last November – to burn the village down.

    You, the man who called Joe Liebermann a traitor, preaching to me about burning the village down? Is there a word beyond hypocrite? And yes, I listened to that disaster of a radio program to hear that. 😆

    P.S. I thought you a great admirer of Christopher Hitchens? You know, a fellow Christian hater. Perhaps that should be your next thread. Something mocking Mother Theresa between the Sarah Palin and supposed victories speeches perhaps?

    I think I’ve touched a nerve tonight. Poor Wally gets his feelings hurt (I always know because he refers back to “bootlicker). But you Rutherford, are literally self-destructing before my eyes the last few months. You sure were better at giving it out than taking it. Remember, what goes around…

  36. Do you happen to have any idea where McDonnell graduated from college?

    My research shows he went to Notre Dame for college. But I think you’re probably making a reference to where he got his law degree … one founded by Pat Robertson. Criegh Deeds tried to make hay of that to no avail. The bottom line is McDonnell ran a moderate conservative campaign. In the words of one liberal pundit, “he was a conservative who pretended to be a moderate during the campaign”. So be it. He knew if he came off as a wingnut he wouldn’t get elected.

  37. Oh … and once again, Tex confuses number of comments with site traffic. You have absolutely no idea (nor do I) what traffic Curator’s blog gets. But as you’ve readily admitted, his gets more than yours does since you don’t have one.

    Well, why don’t you show your brilliance and give us the count Big R about Wally’s overwhelming traffic? There was two comments on there the last month where Wally isn’t using some sock puppet to register approval.

    Do you really think I’m going to take the time to create a blog? Why? Like I told Densico, I can leave anything I want on numerous blogs and not do a damn thing besides be a pain in the ass for free?

    If you can convince me it would serve a purpose besides even the ammunition that I can mock the Wally type, I’m game. But you’re going to have a really difficult time convincing me to do so.

  38. Rutherford, the worldly.

    My research shows he went to Notre Dame for college. But I think you’re probably making a reference to where he got his law degree … one founded by Pat Robertson. Criegh Deeds tried to make hay of that to no avail. The bottom line is McDonnell ran a moderate conservative campaign. In the words of one liberal pundit, “he was a conservative who pretended to be a moderate during the campaign”. So be it. He knew if he came off as a wingnut he wouldn’t get elected.

    Still listening to MSNBC – you guys are full of excuses about getting your collective asses whipped. Pure spin and one I predicted for you on the previous thread – and you’ll note the time before you appeared. And you’re not dumb enough to believe Notre Dame moderate either, are you? Damn, you need to get out of the closet.

    You lost Rutherford. Obama got has ass handed to him last night. Buck up!

    But the one thing I can’t figure out about Wally. Why would he direct his son to one of the most conservative outfits in America? There’s something else that doesn’t make sense about Wally, unless it’s to milk the national teat.

  39. Still Blaming Bush…

    Actually, you won’t get much argument from me here Tex. The statute of limitations on Bush is about to run out. The fact is, Bush left a steaming pile of manure in front of the Oval Office but that dog won’t hunt come mid-term elections. Obama needs to drop that line relatively soon.

  40. Bush is looking better by the day. While he may have left a couple of dog piles, it doesn’t measure up to the donkey’s asshole residing there now.

    By the way, I do remember Bush actually adding seats in 2002? Think Bomba can do the same? 🙂

    You better hope for some cataclysm in American before next November “R”. Perhaps Obama can reach for my prediction last year before Nov 2010 – the first sitting President to reside over a major city getting nuked?

  41. I thought you a great admirer of Christopher Hitchens?

    Well the key point there was that you are NOT a great admirer of him so why would you want to sound like him?

    Some of what Hitchens says resonates with me but I do consider him an angry bitter man. I wouldn’t say I admire him, More that I’m very entertained by him.

    I do have a new religious post brewing in my brain right now by the way. I’ll probably publish it in the next couple of days. 😉

  42. You accused me of sounding like Christopher Hitchens.

    But I was trying to sound like Mother Theresa to my love Curator…

    I must have failed? 🙂

    I hang around hoping the sorry SOB will show back up so I can mouth off some more.

    You, I just like to gig. I disdain that worthless POS.

  43. Concerning Curator’s son, Tex you really should be ashamed of yourself. Patriots who serve in our armed forces come in all stripes. They don’t all follow your ideology. Joe Biden’s son did time in Iraq.

    Did it ever occur to you that liberals fight in our armed forces to preserve the America they want to see flourish? An America different from the one you envision, but one near and dear to them.

    I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again, what pisses you off about Curator is that he has lived on your side of the fence and got tired of the stench. Interestingly, you’re kinda like the Muslims that Elric rants about. Your conservative philosophy is no one here gets out alive. Death to the infidels like Curator or Scozzafava. 😉

  44. Quick note to Dead Rabbit … I think I saw Gore on Morning Joe this morning or maybe yesterday and heard some convo about how he spends his money. He said he spends his money to support the causes that matter to him. I’m not sure I understand your beef.

  45. I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again, what pisses you off about Curator is that he has lived on your side of the fence and got tired of the stench. Interestingly, you’re kinda like the Muslims that Elric rants about. Your conservative philosophy is no one here gets out alive. Death to the infidels like Curator or Scozzafava

    You’ve got Curator pegged wrong. Curator was never, ever a Conservative and if he says so, he’s a lying SOB. What I don’t like about Curator is he’s a user. Curator will take every advantage and then have the unmitigated gall to criticize those who made his cushy, little life possible – no wonder he loves Obama. Notice the liar directed his own son down the same path, though. He’s a leech and a traitor in the mold of Jimmah Carter.

    I am ashamed of myself. I forgot to mention I wanted to congratulate Curator’s son for finally getting half a world away from the above mentioned. 😉

  46. I love it when you talk about the stench of Conservatism and the wonders of progressive politic. Where are these good works you do Rutherford? All of your personal generosity you wish to bestow – but always with other’s money? Can you list one thing you do for somebody outside your immediately family? Or does blogging suffice?

    No wonder you’re a big fan of government give away.

  47. Patriots who serve in our armed forces come in all stripes.

    Like the good Muslims who roll hand grenades into their own force’s tents? Like the AWOL type? I can see Curator pulling some stunt like that.

  48. “You know damn well Elric speaks the truth and because of some imagined fatwa in your beady head, you ignore the obvious.”

    Like that director of the new movie “2012”. When he directedr the disaster scenes of the destruction of major religious sites, he omitted one religion due to fear by his own omission. Why are so many people afraid to offend TRWMNBN? Is it a real fear or imagined?

  49. “V” Television Series Mocks Obama Kool-Aid Drinkers and Dem’s Socialized Health Care Plan (Video)
    Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 10:40 PM
    Jim Hoft

    LMAO

  50. “…He’s beginning to look like a Clinton, he looks like a typical Democrat now, hanging out, playing golf, going to rich people’s parties……what happened to the change we can believe in?”

    The tingle is gone LOL

  51. You’ve got Curator pegged wrong. Curator was never, ever a Conservative and if he says so, he’s a lying SOB.

    Never said I was a conservative. I said I was a passive Republican, which means I voted Republican because that is what the perception was. Military = Republican.

    I guess since I am not conservative I must not be worthy of being a Republican? No wonder your party is getting smaller and smaller. What is it now 20% self identify?

    Notice the liar directed his own son down the same path, though.

    WTF??? The same path? He joined the military fer crying out loud. Is that the cushy path you speak of? Is the GI Bill some sort of freebee handout that is unearned, or are some in our military just unworthy of these types of “advantage”?

  52. “The bottom line is McDonnell ran a moderate conservative campaign. In the words of one liberal pundit, “he was a conservative who pretended to be a moderate during the campaign”. So be it. He knew if he came off as a wingnut he wouldn’t get elected.” — R

    R, I find this rather interesting. I disagree with your moderate comment- he’s conservative and the closer we got to election day, the more conservative sounding he became. What’s interesting is that Obama did the exact same thing- the closer he got to election day, the more conservative he sounded.

    McDonnell has always worn his conservative beliefs on his sleeve, he just didn’t harp on them during the campaign because he didn’t need to prove he was conservative. That’s important to note, he was able to focus on the issues and while Deeds was trying to attack his ideology, McDonnell was able to point to the vacuum of Deeds policies. The lesson here is that conservatives- real conservatives- have an advantage in that they can focus on issues instead of trying to convince folks they are conservative.

    McCain is a great example of this. He had/has a deficit of conservative credentials, so he had to try and prove he is a conservative. Likewise, Obama had to try and sound conservative to get independents- clearly if he had sounded out his true liberal colors, he would have lost the election.

    Per Gallup, Conservatives outnumber liberals 2-1 and have consistently done so for years. Dems made gains in ’06 by pushing conservative dems, which is ironic since Pelosi is about to push either push them or herself off the cliff with this healthcare vote.

    And you’re wrong on NY-23. The RINO’s departure happened too late, so the ballots couldn’t be changed and there are 10,000 absentee ballots that won’t/didn’t reflect the dramatic changes that occurred 3 days before the election. Owens won by some 5,000 votes, while the RINO had near 7,000 (last I saw in the count) and this isn’t counting the absentee ballots. Suppose she pulls out a month earlier and the ballots have time to be fixed- what happens? So you guys can try and spin this however you want, but you should be scared out of your shorts. There are now 4 or 5 House seats in Virginia that are in jeopardy, and if Pelosi/Reid/Obama continue with their no-holds-barred business-as-usual attitude, we’ll see one of the most dramatic political changes in decades.

  53. “Never said I was a conservative. I said I was a passive Republican, which means I voted Republican because that is what the perception was. Military = Republican.

    I guess since I am not conservative I must not be worthy of being a Republican? No wonder your party is getting smaller and smaller. What is it now 20% self identify?” — Curator

    Conservatives vote Republican and the principles of the party tend to hold to conservative ideals. If you don’t hold to conservative ideals, then frankly, yeah, I’m glad you’re out of the party- we don’t need RINOs.

    In the arena of ideas, conservatives consistently win. This is a center right nation, that has not changed since ’06, and that realization was driven home Tuesday and through the polls the last several months. Simple fact.

  54. I hope he is safe in Afghanistan. Where’s he headed and what’s his MOS?

    He is a USAF crew chief on a HH-60 Pavehawk. I assume he is going to Bagram Air Base.

  55. I guess I considered myself a “Log Cabin Republican” even though I was indifferent for LGBT rights.

    I was more interested in ideas of equality over bigotry, and fairness over discrimination, individual freedoms over oppression be it government or any other. Government should intrude in the lives of its citizens to the minimum possible degree, yet be big enough to get the job done.

    Thanks for pointing out that there is no room in the GOP for me and the millions like me. Good luck with your 20%.

  56. That would be 40%+… and I’m not sure I’d reference the Log Cabin GOP as my ideological motivator…

    As a side note, 2/3s of independents went for the GOP Tuesday, so not sure where you think there isn’t any room.

  57. Curator,

    You must not have been scanning the board recently, because I have made it abundantly clear here that I don’t give a damn what happens to the “REPUBLICAN” party – if it is going to be made up of DeDe whatever her name types, I hope it dies today and I’ll be one of them pushing it over the cliff. In a way, I already am.

    You are proof that party affiliations are meaningless. If I were to read the tea leaves, I would have thought you were cut out of the Gorilla mold – irreligious but not hateful and a patriot. Conservative for different reasons than me. And I’m okay with that. I don’t expect everybody to conform to my faith – to each their own.

    But being that you and I appear to be about the same age since I have kids in college too, what I can’t quite get a handle on is that when Dimocrats have been in positions of authority in the past, the military has tended to be gutted. Jimmah Carter is one, and then we had Bill Clinton loathing the military.

    Are you honestly naive enough to believe that Obama, the man whose performance is been completely abysmal so far including in Afghanistan and Pakistan (and even many Democrats are admitting that openly now) is going to be any different?

    The man can’t even make a decision about troop deployment Curator without thinking about himself first. He literally was waiting until after the Tuesday elections to decide to send more troops which he will. And yet that simple fact that your candidate just played politics with the men and women already over either escapes you, or you are willing to overlook it for reasons only you know.

    Now, about your son. Of course I hope nothing happens to him. I wish somehow the experience is a positive one for him in his career for the simple fact of inconvenience. I admire young men who sign up for duty – there is no better work experience college included. I would pray for his safety, but since his Daddy thinks the concept of God a figment of the imagination, and likes to openly mock about it, then I choose not do so. So I wish him luck…

  58. Video: Michelle on schools teaching Obama songs
    posted at 8:48 am on November 5, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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    How creepy are these videos surfacing of children singing the praises of Dear Leader? A couple of them are more silly than creepy, such as the one you’ll hear that just consists of hosannas set to “Go Tell It On the Mountain” — ironically, a gospel song that in its original form would probably get banned in public schools today for the line in its refrain about the birth of Jesus Christ. Most of them, though, don’t just hail Obama as a generic secular leader but actually praise his policies as well, which sounds like both a personality cult and a political indoctrination at the same time. Michelle, as usual, makes the most solid point of all:

    Are test scores in these schools so good that these kids can afford to take this much time off to memorize lyrics praising Barack Obama … essentially for winning an election? It’s precisely this kind of brainwashing that has made an industry out of the home-schooling impulse and fuels the demand for school vouchers and charter schools, where parents have much more control over the education of their children.

    As Sean Hannity notes, it does seem more than a little strange that the same schools that shriek at the insinuation of Christian beliefs on their campuses want to make Obama into an object of worship. And thanks for the shout-out, Sean.

  59. I would have thought you were cut out of the Gorilla mold – irreligious but not hateful and a patriot. Conservative for different reasons than me. And I’m okay with that. I don’t expect everybody to conform to my faith – to each their own.

    I would pray for his safety, but since his Daddy thinks the concept of God a figment of the imagination, and likes to openly mock about it, then I choose not do so. So I wish him luck…

    So it seems you have a problem with my religious beliefs. Why should you? Aren’t we all free to worship or have an indifference towards religion as wee see fit? Isn’t one of the bedrock principles of conservatism individual freedom?

    Why one one hand you state “to each their own.”, yet four paragraphs later state your intolerance for my religious beliefs?

    Can’t one have spiritual beliefs in Jesus Christ yet not believe everything written in the Bible? Can’t one be a non-religious person or be non-committal in absolute faith, yet still be a good citizen of this country? Your intolerance for my non-religious beliefs goes against one of the very principles of this country, or isn’t Freedom of Religion a founding principle? Your hostility towards me must have derived from my comments about Israel. I get hostile towards Israel’s control of our Middle East foreign policy, but shouldn’t anyone want our policy directed from the White House instead of Tel Aviv?

    You have much more anger in you than just this beef about what I do or don’t believe about God or you would not have hoped for “Liberal” soldiers to get their “asses kicked” in combat. What does that have to do with religion?

  60. “I get hostile towards Israel’s control of our Middle East foreign policy, but shouldn’t anyone want our policy directed from the White House instead of Tel Aviv?”

    Picture gets much clearer now

  61. Curator,

    First your questions:

    Can’t one have spiritual beliefs in Jesus Christ yet not believe everything written in the Bible?

    Sure. The devil himself has a belief in the Risen Christ. But what is your point? There are many parts of the Bible that nobody would profess not to believe – the golden rule being one. However, Christ said it to be better to be hot or cold. You either believe in none of it, or all of it in other words. To adopt only those virtues you find appealing is vapid.

    Can’t one be a non-religious person or be non-committal in absolute faith, yet still be a good citizen of this country?

    Absolutely…Christ certainly made that distinction. Of course, where you and I would differ is exactly who is at the top of the hierarchy. I’m sure in your mind, you’re a patriot and great citizen. However, you must believe government the highest calling to formulate your opinions – otherwise, you’re even more confused than I first thought.

    ————————————————

    You have mistakenly defined the word intolerance and confused with acceptance. Christians are the most tolerant stripe in America. You think I’m wrong? We are vastly in the majority, at least those calling themselves Christian, yet allow every walk of life to live amongst us without persecution. We have allowed your ilk to push our faith out of the public square, though that was never the Framers’ intent. Yet when we don’t approve of the way you vote and will openly vote against you, you call us intolerant. I believe it is you that is demonstrating intolerance.

    There is a canyon wide difference between Gorilla’s approach of calling himself irreligious, and you openly mocking Christ. Exactly which “spiritual part” do you profess – exorcism, or the worship of Caesar? 🙄

    You are absolutely free to worship and you mistake my own profession as some form of proselytizing. What you really don’t like is I don’t play doormat and it enrages you when I have the audacity to quote scripture as a defense. Curator, your knowledge of the Word is quite thin. That part you should leave well enough alone.

    Yes, I do believe you hate the Jews and that does in part explain my dislike for you. But there is a whole lot more to it than that…have you not figured out even if I have so much as told you that I consider you the enemy? In addition, you give rubes like Rutherford ammunition to continue with his typical blather as he counts you as one time among the brethren. I think you’re a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    It’s really pretty simple Curator. And don’t have a pity party as we do share one thing in common – an intense dislike of the other. You came in looking for a fight with me, and when you got one in return it enraged you. It took me about a day to figure out how to push your buttons and when you become enraged, you’re transparent as hell. You’re just not used to a Christian who will get down and dirty like you do. You want to hold that against me, feel free. However, you’re not my judge either, so I will put little value in your “opinions”.

    Like I said, best wishes to your son…

  62. Why should Israel sign a non-proliferation treaty Curator? They’ve got sworn enemies who have as much as stated they will destroy Israel given the chance. Should they placate Mahmoud like you ask Christians to placate you?

    Israel wasn’t a country for 24 hours before they were attacked from all sides from those folks you continually side. Add to the fact it was those Jews you hate Curator that created the bomb in the first place, ironically you might not be here if weren’t on account of them.

    I do find something delicious in the fact that it was Jews who left Europe that in turn developed the very bomb Hitler was trying to create and ending the war.

    Don’t think for a moment Curator that the same fate doesn’t await Israel’s enemies. That will eventually include you if you fail to recognize that fact. 😉

  63. Tex,

    I came in here cause it was on Red’s blog roll over at Cadillac Tight, and Joe Tobacco banned me for speaking my mind. But if you want to think I came here just to pick a fight with you, be my guest. It must stoke your e-ego somehow.

    I’ll post later, I’ve got some parent/teacher meeting.

  64. “I do find something delicious in the fact that it was Jews who left Europe that in turn developed the very bomb Hitler was trying to create and ending the war.”

    I also find it ironic that Europe ran out the Jews and in a generation it will be the Euros that will be the new Jews.

    Also was nice to get a new insight into Jerkator. I suspected as much since he is a leftist.

  65. At least 12 people were killed and 31 others were wounded in a mass shooting incident Thursday at Fort Hood, Texas, military officials said. The shooter was shot to death, they said.

    More shots were reported later in the afternoon, reported NBC affiliate KCEN-TV of Waco, which said no further details were immediately available.

    A senior administration official told NBC News analyst Roger Cressey that the suspect who was in custody was an Army major with an Arabic-sounding name. The official said the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

    Arabic sounding name? I am so shocked.

  66. Curator,

    But if you want to think I came here just to pick a fight with you, be my guest. It must stoke your e-ego somehow.

    To debate with the likes of you “stokes” my ego? Not hardly Wally. 😆

    But I do find you interestingly confused concerning your mindset, mildly amusing and because you’re both arrogant and nasty in your approach, you make for an inviting punching bag.

    And I do receive a measure of joy of watching Elric drive you nuts with his numerous references. Like Rutherford, you never answer a difficult question which I finding revealing enough. But no doubt you add value to Rutherford’s blog – I give you that.

  67. Tex,

    Interesting you mentioned the grenade rolling muslim with this attack at Fort Hood just happening. I wonder if the drones will get it yet. I also wonder if Jerkator’s is at Fort Hood. Probably will blame the joooos.

  68. Elric,

    I watched Obama’s speech about Ft. Hood a moment ago. There are very few times that I find myself speechless, but the man’s approach at this tragedy bordered between flippancy and a campaign speech. I am utterly amazed at how callous this SOB is.

    That wasn’t even pathetic with the big smile. It was ludicrous.

  69. 12 Soldiers Killed and 31 Wounded in Fort Hood Shooting
    Suspected Gunman Is Identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan
    By EMILY FRIEDMAN
    Nov. 5, 2009

    Twelve people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting spree at a Texas military base by what officials believe was possibly carried out by an Army officer.
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    Gunman kills at least 7 and wounds 12 at Fort Hood.

    The suspected gunman was identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. He was killed and two other suspects have been apprehended, Lt. Robert W. Cone said.

    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938

    Ummah comes first.

  70. Thank God Im retired. I could not serve under such a friggin POS like him.

    You’d serve under him and love it. He’d say jump and you’d say “How high, SIR!” I just wish I could put this to the test to show what an Internet-blowhard you are. 👿

  71. Within minutes of learning about the Fort Hood shootings, I saw some bozo on Twitter blame Obama claiming that our delay in deployment to Afghanistan was at fault. I didn’t follow his logic but then again, I doubt he had any logic, Twitter doesn’t weed out imbeciles.

    Then I come here and sure enough, Elric has his Muslim tie-in. Hey Elric … tell me the truth … just how much were you keeping your fingers crossed that one of the shooters had an Arab name? You happy now? Well I have a confession … I was hoping it was some right-wing militia wingnut. So I guess we both have our prejudices.

    We’ll see how this unfolds. (I haven’t seen Obama’s statement yet … I’ll withhold comment until I do.)

  72. I love the hypocrisy of those in this forum who revel in Israel victim-hood but think blacks are the lowest, laziest, race-baiting excuse makers on the planet. Shame that only certain folks are allowed to play the victim.

    P.S. I just wish historically that more blacks had Israel’s balls. I never understood why blacks protest by burning down their own neighborhoods. They need to march to the rich folks hood and set a few of those estates on fire. 😉

  73. Hmmm no post yet on the jihad killing at Fort Hood. I guess because the murderer was a muslim convert, nothing to worry about. I guess the spike is continuing as I stated before.

  74. “R”,

    You going to give credit where credit is due to Elric since apparently he called it right about the “peace loving” military man from the religion of pieces? Looks like Elric was right and you were wrong. Malik doesn’t sound much like a radical right wing Christian name. Do see a bunch of libs running around with that proper.

    Do you see any Jews that keep leeching off the public teat, unless you consider the well spent $2B a year we give Israel to do our dirty work welfare? To me, money well spent. I don’t know a one that requires welfare. In fact, I don’t think it would take much insight about intellect and abilities to contrast Jews and some other unnamed group as the top and bottom of the caste, unless we are talking about professional sports. You know what I mean? You don’t think the Most Reverend Jesse called it Hymietown for nothing, do you in his jealousy? 🙂

    They need to march to the rich folks hood and set a few of those estates on fire.

    The only good part of the O.J. riots and militant black racism? Watching Korean grocery keepers mow the thugs down from the roof while the thugs were dancing in the street. Great entertainment.

    Keep groveling.

  75. Curator=banned because you were continually abusive and a distraction to dialog.
    Curator & others= Not for nothing but one of the things that bothers me about those that criticize log Cabin Repubs is the notion that a gay person can’t possibly like safer streets,lower taxes and a strong FP. Wassup with that?
    The NPT…The thing is a freaking joke folks- come on!
    They need to march to the rich folks hood and set a few of those estates on fire. Wow ! One could run with that one in so many ways.

  76. I just watched Obama’s remarks and all I can say is how happy I am that Elric is retired. I’d hate to think the protection of our country could be in the hands of someone as mentally challenged as Mr. E.

    Obama was speaking at a Native American summit, dingbat (and dingbat’s disciple Tex). He cut his speech short to address the situation at Fort Hood. The “shoutout” had to do with the assembled audience and the purpose for which they were gathered. As soon as he concluded a brief comment on the progress of the summit, he acknowledged the tragedy in TX, and then gave a concluding remark germane to the audience there.

    If Obama ate f*ckin’ apple pie while driving his Chevy, on the way to order 120,000 troops to Afghanistan and another order to drop the bomb on Iran, you’d still find some reason why he’s lame.

    I repeat what I said before. Thank goodness Elric is retired.

  77. “They were telling him that one guy was shouting something in Arabic while he was shooting”

    Hasan.jpg

    Fort Hood Jihad Update: “Local soldier: Fort Hood shooting ‘a bloody mess,'” by T.J. Aulds for The Galveston Daily News, November 5 (thanks to Constantine):

    “They were telling him that one guy was shouting something in Arabic while he was shooting,” Tom Hunt said. “He couldn’t say much more than that.”

    There is also this from Pamela:

    “Malik Nadal Hasan, the jihadi that led the attack on Fort Hood, was quoted as saying “Muslims have the right to rise up against the US military” “The Malik Nadal Hasan Muslims have a right to stand up against the aggressors” “maybe we should have more of these where people strap bombs on themselves and go into Times Square” – this according to Col Terry Lee who worked with Muslim convert.

    The mainstream media, of course, is still searching for a motive.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/they-were-telling-him-that-one-guy-was-shouting-something-in-arabic-while-he-was-shooting.html

    Im sure he got a few “allaha akbars” in while killing the kafirs

  78. Curator=banned because you were continually abusive and a distraction to dialog.

    Alfie, you’ve GOT to be kidding! Ole’ Joe Tobacco must have some thin skin from all the smokin’ cos the criteria you mentioned would have gotten Elric banned from this blog ages ago. Did Curator hurt somebody’s wittle feelings? Please, point me to the thread so I can see what he unleashed. 😉

  79. Elric’s disciple here. 😆

    He’s ripped you so many times this week including this prophetic tragedy, I must admit have become an admirer. Disciple, I’ll be.

    When you going to lead the riots Rutherford? I’m polishing up as we speak?

    Obama’s speech was not inappropriate, but outrageous. Acting like Howdy Doody after a tragedy. What’s he going to do for an encore if God forbid, something like 9/11 happens.

    Break dance for us? Rap a little? Dunk over the goalpost?

  80. Seeing Obama’s shitting eating grin while speaking at a tragedy today, I’m reminded of when he was campaigning. I was just sure Obama was going to jump in the mosh pit last year while standing in front of the columns like Zeus. I found myself disappointed when it didn’t happen cause I was just dying to know what Rutherford looked like down there carrying his god on his shoulders.

  81. Seeing Obama’s shitting eating grin while speaking at a tragedy today,

    He wasn’t speaking at a tragedy. What drugs are you smoking?

    Obama’s speech was not inappropriate, but outrageous.

    Again, you’re on drugs. Find a different pusher cos he’s giving you some bad stuff. Oh I forgot. Your pusher is Elric.

  82. Tex,

    Thanks for the praise but Im not worth of worship like Thuggy. 🙂

    But give Thuggy some credit. He didnt wait for 2 days like the last time some muslim scum killed a soldier on US soil.

    Now if some guy mowed down 12 abortion doctors, Thuggy would have looked more solemn.

  83. Elric,

    Can you imagine Bro. Rutherford’s chagrin if George Bush, upon learning the towers had been hit had said, “Hey, let’s give a shout out to Keith Olbermann – he used to work for ESPN!! I’ll get back with you after I finish this children’s book! Yeehaw!”

    Rutherford is blind to Pres. Howdy Doody’s trivial, clueless nature as everyone but Curator realizes here. Obama is the wooden Indian statue you used to see on the street corners when called upon for the appropriate response without the teleprompter – a real deer in headlights look to go along with the shit eatin’ grin. I think Obama might be related to Nancy Pelosi. Do you think he can shed some tears for the camera?

  84. “Can you imagine Bro. Rutherford’s chagrin if George Bush, upon learning the towers had been hit had said, “Hey, let’s give a shout out to Keith Olbermann – he used to work for ESPN!! I’ll get back with you after I finish this children’s book! Yeehaw!””

    We would have 10 posts in a row about that.

    I wonder how this latest jihad episode this year on American soil will play into his so called religious post he is suppose to do.

    “Do you think he can shed some tears for the camera?”

    I think he could if he concentrated on the muslim psycho being gunned down by those evil American soldiers.

  85. It bothers me so much that the wives are right there, right in army housing. They could only show up a find out that their husbands were murdered in cold blood on their home base.

    Then I come on here and find Rutherford indignant over Elric posting plain as day facts.

    Fucking Muhammadan vermin. Their culture sucks so damn bad. Only ones that are cool are the ones that don’t buy into their own medieval legacy.

    Go to a mosque. At the very least, these people are bigoted, sexist assholes. At the very worst, cowardly savages.

    The only cool Muslim is one who really isn’t much of a Muslim in the first place.

    Elric will keep posting away until Rutherford and friends concede the obvious.

    Only then can we figure out what to do with these animal fucks.

    Rutherford, admit that Islamic culture is diseased to the core. We can’t do shit until you and your Utopian pussy friends come to this conclusion.

  86. Can you imagine Bro. Rutherford’s chagrin if George Bush, upon learning the towers had been hit had said …

    Oh no, no, no. You’re NOT gonna go there? In all my time blogging (more than 2 years now) I’ve never gone after Bush for the famous 7 minutes (or was it 10 or 15) that he sat in front of those kids like a deer in the headlights after being told our Nation was under attack.

    Tex … you went threre dude … I didn’t.
    Bwahahahahhahahahahahaha 😀

  87. Rutherford, I know you’re a completely self-absorbed lout, but let me ask you a fair question.

    Upon watching 9/11, did you immediately react? Or did you sit there trying to absorb what you were watching to try and determine if it was an accident or deliberately planned? Then when the second plane hit and it became apparent we were under attack, what was your initial reaction? I’ll bet you sat there trying to gather information, didn’t you? John Kerry, your Purple Bandaid Purple Heart winner you’re so proud to drag out as a war hero, said he sat down and nearly cried, paralyzed for 30 minutes trying to determine what action to take.

    Now, I know how brave you are (cough, cough). But if you ask me, no matter how you want to mock Bush and some of it deserved, he was pretty darn brave the days following 9/11 and the nation apparently thought so too, giving him four more years and a very high approval rating that even Obama at his zenith has never matched.

    So far, Bomba hasn’t shown much in the way of bravery. In fact as I noted to Curator this morning, Obama has been completely gutless and completely political concerning both wars. Curator failed to address my question as to why Obama felt he had to wait until after Tuesday’s elections so he didn’t lose the hard left. Literally leaving men at risk on the battlefield to cover his base. How’s that for bravery? If I were Curator, I’d be telling my own son to get out when he can to save his own skin before Afghanistan blows because of Bomba’s failed war policies. We haven’t discussed how he’s obviously blowing that one to any degree.

    This is why I pretty much don’t take you seriously as an opponent anymore and continually resort to simply making fun of you and your blog. You’ve become a little, bitter man with so much of yourself being lived and sold through a dismal showing of your elected President. You have completely lost what objectivity you had – which was never much to begin with.

  88. Rabbit, call me naive but I honestly don’t understand why you’re griping about the Fannie-Mae rental deal. It sounds like a good way to keep people in their homes and not have their lives disrupted.

    As for Islam, you obviously haven’t been reading the comment threads too carefully. I have stated that a disproportionate amount of violence is committed in the name of Islam. I have stated I am particularly disturbed by Sharia law. I have also stated that I don’t know how we deal with this without risking the freedom of religion upon which our country is founded.

  89. Rutherford, I know you’re a completely self-absorbed lout, but let me ask you a fair question.

    LOL … Tex, you laid your own trap there. I have ALWAYS thought that the criticism of Bush’s “7 minutes” was overblown and unwarranted. What did we expect him to do? Jump up and scream to the kids “run for your lives, our country is under attack”?

    I only took a swipe at him because you had the nerve to bring up Bush and his reaction to 9/11 in the face of huge criticism that he’s gotten over those initial few minutes.

    I happen to agree with you, believe ir or not. I think the days immediately following 9/11 were Bush’s finest hours. It’s just a shame he had assh*les advising him that made him take his eye off the ball (Afghanistan) leaving us where we are today.

  90. DR,

    Thanks. I just post the obvious about TRWMNBN. I could post more important things like the latest on Palin or Bachmann but to my recollection, they havent murdered 12 Americans in cold blood.

    Still amazing no drone has shown any outrage over this.

  91. Ben,

    Who cares about some muslims murdering 12 soldiers? Michelle Bachmann told the American people to look their congressman in their eyes. Now thats terrorism.

  92. Ft. Hood suspect reportedly shouted `Allahu Akbar’

    By JEFF CARLTON, Associated Press Writer Jeff Carlton, Associated Press Writer – 27 mins ago

    FORT HOOD, Texas – Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.

    Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for “God is great!” before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091106/ap_on_re_us/us_fort_hood_shooting

    Hmmm how did I guess that he said that before slaughtering people? I guess because I am an “islamophobe”

  93. THE prime example of how Islam justifies to a Muslim that killing is perfectly appropriate against infidels i.e. those who adhere to a religion other than one’s own or whose actions insult Islam.

  94. Ben,

    Funny how the drones here arent talking about it. Seems Bachman and Palin are a topic worth talking about but not an “American” muslim slaughtering American soldiers on US soil in the name of allah.

  95. The actions of this American born Muslim are treasonous. He betrayed his fellow servicemen and his country. He deserves the court martial coming to him and further deserves the firing squad our country’s PC-minds won’t let happen.

    As I say in the post above, Islam overwhelmed normal moral and patriotic sensibilities and values.

    It is designed to work that way. It’s in the Qur’an.

  96. RE:2008 was the year of campaign silly season, led by the Republicans who threw every ridiculous charge at Obama that they could (charges that persist ten months after his inauguration).

    Ridiculous charges would refer to those which are contrary to nature or which might defy common sense, right? I suppose that label may belong to the so-called “birthers”. It’s the lack of evidence which fuels that fire. For them (I omit myself from that group of fringe of thinkers.) it will only change when the evidence is presented. It turns ridiculous only after the evidence is presented which contradicts what they believe they know and they begin adopt the all-to-familiar conspiracy theory models based on fabricated evidence presented by the government with the obligatory cover-ups. Like UFO believers clink to.

    The left isn’t immune. The cling to their conspiracy theory that Bush “stole” the presidency from Gore even after the facts contrary to their beliefs have been ferreted out and laid before them. They’re in the same group that our government conspired and played a roll in the 9/11 attacks on the WTC.

    To build credibility it’s rather important to avoid slinging out blanket statements about “Republicans who threw every ridiculous charge at Obama that they could” without actually quantifying them.

    RE: Deeds made a big stink about some paper McDonnell had written over 20 years ago. If you can’t battle your opponent on current issues, you ought not to be running.

    The fact remains that a proper vetting process includes a look into the past. Your resume is an example of that. (Try getting a job without one.) To dismiss judgment of character and values by avoiding a look into a person’s past is irresponsible. The fact we have Obama in office today underscores what happens when you don’t carefully consider past decisions, associations and experience.

    Your ball.

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