When to Turn the Cameras Off and Obama Tone Deaf in New Orleans

When to Turn the Cameras Off

One of the big stories in the past 24 hour news cycle has been that of “balloon boy”, the six year old son of an inventor who was thought to be floating in a helium balloon lost in the skies of Colorado. The boy turned out to have been safely hiding in his parent’s attic the entire time that various Colorado rescue officials were trying  to find him. Now attention has turned to his parents and particularly his father with a suspicion that the entire event was a hoax to get him publicity.

I’m not going to jump on the bandwagon of those criticizing the young boy’s family. There is a far more odious culprit to talk about this evening. That is the bottom feeding hypocritical media that covered this story. On MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”, Mika Brzezinski was practically apoplectic over what she considered to be child abuse. To prove her point she and her co-hosts played video tape of the family’s appearances on “Good Morning America” and “The Today Show”, expressing all sorts of outrage that the parents would exploit their child on TV even when he was so sick that he vomited on both shows.

The point that they missed entirely was that the producers and “journalists” involved in both morning interviews couldn’t figure out when enough was enough. On “Good Morning America”, the child named Falcon, excused himself to go to the bathroom and vomit. Diane Sawyer essentially gave the mother “permission” to go see how the boy was.  It didn’t occur to anyone at ABC, ok folks, interview over? On NBC’s “Today”, the situation was even worse. Falcon could not even get to the bathroom on time and vomited on camera. As he left the room, Meredith Vieira announced she still had a couple of questions she’d like to ask. No, Meredith, the kid just tossed his breakfast, time for the interview to be over!

One has to wonder if the child started choking on a pretzel on live TV, would the cameras have kept rolling or would some anchor or producer have had the decency to stop the tape. The only solace I got out of watching this episode was seeing the reaction of Newsweek Editor and “Morning Joe” guest Jon Meacham, who called Mika and her crew “meta-enablers”. He basically told them, they make the story worse by covering it.

They’re angry that the father might want media attention but to get ratings, they give him all the attention he craves. Hypocrites and bottom feeders, plain and simple.

Obama Tone Deaf in New Orleans

The optics were bad enough with President Barack Obama doing a quick stop in still devastated New Orleans on his way to a San Francisco fund raiser. But things got worse than just bad optics when a young New Orleans resident, Gabriel Bordenave, asked the President why help to the region was still only trickling in four years after Katrina and nine months into what was supposed to be a fresh perspective administration. (The following video is poor quality but the audio is clear.)

When Bordenave says that the foot dragging he would have expected under Bush was still going on now, Obama responded with a defensive posture, going as far as to say if he could write a check now he would. Not to be put off, Bordenave asked “why not?” Obama’s surprisingly snide response was that there was this little thing called the Constitution that needed to be accounted for.

Excuse me? We are pouring trillions of dollars into current and contemplated programs, most of which I support. So, why is it so hard to get money down to the people who need it in New Orleans? When Obama could have said that he was sorry for the suffering still going on down there, he took a totally defensive stance, going as far as to say folks oppose spending except when the money is spent on them. True, of course. The right place and time to say it? Hell no. To make matters worse, Obama’s next stop was San Francisco where couples would be paying $34,000.00 each for a lousy dinner to raise funds for the DNC to get Democrats elected to various offices. Why don’t we do some campaign finance reform and funnel all that wasted money down to New Orleans so hospitals can get rebuilt?

There is no doubt that some retraction of Obama’s comments is on the way. He so misread the time and place to be defensive and sarcastic that it is mind boggling. My prescription for the President is to take a break from health care and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. He needs to find a quiet place in the White House, put his headphones on, and listen to this warning call from The Who:

I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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383 thoughts on “When to Turn the Cameras Off and Obama Tone Deaf in New Orleans

  1. Your not going to believe this, but I know people who live next door to those weirdos. They told me it’s been a media blitz.

  2. Rutherford,

    RE:Excuse me? We are pouring trillions of dollars into current and contemplated programs, most of which I support. So, why is it so hard to get money down to the people who need it in New Orleans?

    I dunno either, but maybe it’s because it’s not his call to make. Maybe he has to ask Nancy Pelosi to put the initiative through some committee first.

    My idea would be to sell New Orleans to China to help offset the $1.42 trillion dollar federal deficit.

    In the face of the absurdities we’ve seen for the last 9 months, that idea pales by comparison.

  3. um, R, I know snide and Obama’s response was not snide and it was a reasonable answer. If that response was snide then I’d expect you to call out most of Obama’s townhall answers during the campaign to be snide.

    Why don’t we do some campaign finance reform and funnel all that wasted money down to New Orleans so hospitals can get rebuilt?

    Apart from possible law breaking and misuse of doing this, they wouldn’t be politicians if they did.

    This post reminds me of when kids ask, “how come we just can’t print off all the money we need?”
    As a side note, I did ask that when I was little.

    Then Balloon Boy story is ridiculous. The dad called the tv station before calling the police about his missing some. These kids are brats and the family thinks we’ve descended from aliens and the father thinks JFK’s murder was a conspiracy and he even made a video in 2008 that shows him staging a missile attack on the US capitol.

    I thought the Meredith thing was hilarious and awkward. The kid throws up and she still felt the need to ask several questions before going to commercial break. If the father wasn’t an attention whore he would have cut the interview short and showed his son a little respect after throwing up on national TV.

  4. R-
    This story is indeed less about the family, the boys, the balloon, the attention seeking and more about the overall state of American journalism which effectively died a long time ago.

    But the media can’t be fully blamed because it’s simply a business with the same goal as all businesses – to make money.

    They provide a service for sale. The customer can choose to buy the product or ignore it.

    Over the years the business learns about the market place and develops a clear understanding about what sells and what flops.

    The consuming public is the driving factor.

    Protest in the only manner they understand.

    Quit being shallow and so easily satiated with sensationalism. Quit watching. Quit reading. Quit buying the pablum.

    To continue to do so allows this sensation market to persist.

  5. I don’t really blame the media on balloon boy. That was a crazy story. It was like some bizarre dream. Some kid is stuck in a inflatable flying saucer floating away at 8,000 feet. (At least that is what we all reasonably thought)The media is just responding to the collective WTF then entire country has for this story. Blame the parents, not the media.

  6. First to get some relative trivia out of the way: It looks like I am two and three degrees of separation from some of the protagonists in my articles. Apparently DR knows someone who knows the “Balloon” family. That’s pretty wild. AND if I’m not mistaken, in the prior thread Tex implied that his daughter was going to meet Obama at Texas A&M during his Bush 41 visit.

    So now the big trivia question of the weekend. When Miss Taylor met Obama did she:

    1. Spit in his face?
    2. Kick him in the balls?
    3. Call him a POS?
    4. Treat him with the same respect any President deserves and perhaps even have her picture taken with him?

    Of course, if she did 4, then the poor girl can never come home again. 🙂

  7. Sensico, you should know if anyone is going to defend Obama it would be me. I don’t see how you can ignore the tone-deafness of Obama’s response at this New Orleans gathering.

    This is very simple. The man told Obama that a hospital needed to be rebuilt and that from the progress made, he couldn’t tell the difference between the Obama administration and the Bush admin. Are you telling me that Obama’s correct response should be a lesson on how a bill becomes a law? “There’s this thing called the Constitution.” Maybe you’re used to being addressed that way but I’m sorry, I call it smug. It is the very quality that conservatives throw in our faces all the time about Obama and we don’t need him adding fuel to the fire.

    There is nothing childish about thinking that $34,000.00 per couple to raise funds to get somebody elected is evidence of a broken system. I was not suggesting that campaign funds be illegally diverted to New Orleans. I was suggesting that campaigns shouldn’t need this kind of funding in the first place. The money is better spent elsewhere.

    I’ll address your take on Balloon Boy in another comment.

  8. Regarding Falcon, the Balloon Boy, Ben I completely agree with you that some of this coverage represents the nadir of journalistic integrity and I also agree that they feed us what we ask for. It says that we live in a Jerry Springer society, which is pretty damn scary.

    But there is a more subtle argument here that most of you seem to have missed. I am not saying the family is without fault. If it was a hoax then the whole thing is detestable. If it was not a hoax, then it still shows evidence of child neglect and the ensuing appearances on TV demonstrate a family’s twisted priorities.

    I am not saying the media should not have covered the initial story.

    What I am saying is that Mika Brzezinski is getting all self righteous about the parent’s apparent desire to be on TV but she does not hold GMA or Today accountable for their coverage. I don’t know if Diane Sawyer and Meredith Vieira have children (I think Meredith does and Diane does not) but I’m sorry, if I’m interviewing you and your kid starts vomiting, I say “time to go to a commercial”. I don’t ask more questions.

    As I said in my article, what if the kid had been eating a snack during the family interview and started choking? Would the cameras have stayed on during the Heimlich, followed by Vieira saying, “oh good, now that that is resolved, can I ask you a few more questions?”

    Perhaps it is the fault of this whole reality-TV craze that we no longer know when to turn off the cameras. Are the participants blameless? Of course not. But I’m addressing an industry and an audience that feeds on sick voyeurism.

    Oh, and before anyone calls me a hypocrite, yes, I do watch Real Housewives of Atlanta … it’s a guilty pleasure.

  9. Are you telling me that Obama’s correct response should be a lesson on how a bill becomes a law? “There’s this thing called the Constitution.”

    he said, “I wish I could write a check” dude says, “why not?”, he said it’s this thing called the constitution. Obviously you’re taking that out of context, in a weird uptight kind of way /snicker.

    It is the very quality that conservatives throw in our faces all the time about Obama and we don’t need him adding fuel to the fire.

    I’m not watching cable news but from what I can tell you’re the only one making a big deal about it, I haven’t seen conservatives complaining about this. I can only imagine that the ones here would feed off your “anger” and bash him over this even though they weren’t thinking about this before.

    There is nothing childish about thinking that $34,000.00 per couple to raise funds to get somebody elected is evidence of a broken system.

    It’s their money….isn’t telling people what to do with their money the same quality that conservatives hammer liberals over 😛

    I was suggesting that campaigns shouldn’t need this kind of funding in the first place.

    yeah, it’s this whole thing called, paying salaries of campaign staff, advertising, running campaign offices.

    The money is better spent elsewhere.

    yeah, like paying to keep a roof over your head instead of spending bill money on a cruise to the Caribbean. Money can always be better spent elsewhere. Whatchagonnado? >_>

  10. Ooooh, sorry for my snide responses. Especially the one about it’s their money…though I meant every word of it. I just wanted to get the basic point across.

  11. R-

    RE:It says that we live in a Jerry Springer society, which is pretty damn scary.
    Yep, and it should make us angry with ourselves for growing it.

    RE:…I’m sorry, if I’m interviewing you and your kid starts vomiting, I say “time to go to a commercial”. I don’t ask more questions.
    You do see of course, that since we live in a Jerry Springer society, to take this off the air is not keeping with the spirit of that society.

    We created the market which creates a company which believes we really do want to see a 6 year-old display what he had for breakfast all over the studio floor. To take it off the air at that point does not serve the company’s interests we created for them.

    In the final analysis, the finger still points back to us.

    RE:As I said in my article, what if the kid had been eating a snack during the family interview and started choking? Would the cameras have stayed on during the Heimlich, followed by Vieira saying, “oh good, now that that is resolved, can I ask you a few more questions?”
    More likely than not.

    RE:But I’m addressing an industry and an audience that feeds on sick voyeurism.
    And the audience created the content for that industry to display to us.

    We’re on the same page.

    Looking deeper, it’s a mirror reflecting what we are as humans.

    Not very flattering, is it?

    Are we capable of rising above it?

  12. You can throw in all the corrupt blue states.

    Hey Elric, why don’t you go the full monty and have all the States that agree with you secede from the union? Who knows, maybe they’ll make you their President? 😉

  13. I haven’t seen conservatives complaining about this — Sensico

    Then you need to watch more cable news, and you don’t even need to go to Fox. Joe Scarborough nearly had a heart attack Friday morning over this, calling the President’s response pathetic. And for once, I was sitting there saying, yup, Joe, this time you’ve got us.

  14. I can only imagine that the ones here would feed off your “anger” and bash him over this even though they weren’t thinking about this before.

    I can’t be concerned about what folks feed off. If I cannot call out Obama when I think he has missed the boat, then I have zero integrity as a blogger. Now do I think that this article will make Elric fall in love with me (wait, I need to puke a minute), no I don’t and that’s not my intent. My intent is to be honest within the limits of my “liberal shill” character. 😉

    yeah, it’s this whole thing called, paying salaries of campaign staff, advertising, running campaign offices. …
    yeah, like paying to keep a roof over your head instead of spending bill money on a cruise to the Caribbean. Money can always be better spent elsewhere. Whatchagonnado

    Now I know it is stereotyping to think that someone your age shouldn’t be so cynical but I am a bit surprised. You don’t find it the least un-democratic that the current campaign finance system really only allows the rich to run for office, or those who can get the most rich people to part with their money? You see absolutely nothing wrong with that?

  15. Harris poll puts Obama approval at 45%
    posted at 11:20 am on October 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

    Barack Obama might have hoped that an unexpected Nobel Peace Prize might halt his slide in the polls. Not so, says the latest Harris interactive poll, conducted over the last week. The survey contacted over 2200 adults on line, and his numbers dropped significantly from September’s poll, giving Obama an unfavorability rating of -10:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/17/harris-poll-puts-obama-approval-at-45/

    LMAO

  16. Are we capable of rising above it?

    Ben, probably not. I know I’m gonna sound like a social conservative saying this but I think in many aspects of our former social normalcy, decency and restraint, the genie is out of the bottle and he ain’t going back in.

  17. He won’t. My bet, he gives about 12-15,000 troops, not the 40-60,000 that McCrystal is asking for.

    Don’t forget, these are the Dems, they fight wars on the cheap. Remeber Clinton?

  18. oh, so the love of your life Joe Scarborough makes a big deal out this statement, and you feel the need to also take it out of context.

    I know you’re crushed over a conservative that at times seems reasonable but the guy is just as capable at taking shit out of context.

    I watched that video 3 times and don’t get the offended feeling that you and your BF/F have. Anyways, I’m over it.

    I can’t be concerned about what folks feed off.

    Yeah, neither does Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. haha, sorry but I couldn’t help it, don’t take that seriously.

    You don’t find it the least un-democratic that the current campaign finance system really only allows the rich to run for office, or those who can get the most rich people to part with their money? You see absolutely nothing wrong with that?

    you mean how like Obama was able to build his campaign off of small dollar donations?? He really didn’t get huge big dollar donations until after he became popular. Anyone can run a campaign, I don’t particularly find it in the American spirit to just give an election win to the riches guy/girl or else Clinton and Romney would have been dukin’ it out.

    My comments were in relation to the suggestion that rich people should be donating to katrina victims. Of course, I’m all for that, but it’s their money. Why force donors to donate to charity? Wouldn’t be charity.

    Anyways, this Katrina issue is also a state problem, I believe it was at that same townhall or another Obama New Orleans townhall that Bobby Jindal was booed loudly. Apparently, he’s not doing something right.

  19. Just read all of Sensico’s comments, this is one of the best examples of how she absolutely refuses to apply any semblance of criticism to Obama. To her, he can literally do no wrong and everyone else who even remotely scrutenizes him, is just a big fat do-do head. True colors shining through…

  20. Don’t forget, these are the Dems, they fight wars on the cheap. Remeber Clinton?

    Wait, so that must means that Repugs bankrupt whole systems in order to fight wars. At least Clinton go to the point where he could have taken out Bin Laden, Repugs spent all this money and we’re still having to look for him. Though, he could just be dead.

  21. To her, he can literally do no wrong and everyone else who even remotely scrutenizes [sic] him, is just a big fat do-do head. True colors shining through…

    besides your ridiculous, china buys new orleans comments, no other conservatives have come here to address the new orleans “anger”. Theres other crap to criticize obama on, I personally think this is ridiculous. And, I rarely go after R whenever he criticizes Obama, I just find anger over the it’s this thing called the constitution park to be rather prudish

  22. Don’t forget, these are the Dems, they fight wars on the cheap. Remeber Clinton?

    I don’t need to remember back that far. How about Bush and Rumsfeld? C’mon Gorilla, you’re better than this.

  23. oh, so the love of your life Joe Scarborough makes a big deal out this statement, and you feel the need to also take it out of context.

    Well for starters, Scarborough did take the comments out of context to the extent that his producers grossly edited the video. The video I posted is the full exchange and admittedly, Obama says a few preliminaries before he gets to the “If I could write a check, I would” comment. Those preliminary comments concern all that his administration is doing to help. Now, if I say to you, “Sensico, I’m concerned about not seeing this that or the other in my neighborhood” and you answer me by essentially saying, “I don’t know what you don’t see, I can only tell you all the great things I’m doing”, then I’m not going to feel particularly satisfied.

    To top things off, when Obama got around to admitting government incompetence, he rewound to 2005 to do it … i.e. he apologized for Bush’s screw ups. Katrina is no longer Bush’s problem. It’s Obama’s.

    I think I can help you understand where I’m coming from by reminding you of Obama in finer moments. He’s had people at town halls complain to him and his response has been “please get with my assistant after the town hall so we can see if there is anything we can do for you.” I’ve seen him do this. He could have taken a similar approach with the dude who wants his hospital rebuilt. Instead, the dude got defensiveness, excuses, and essentially got blown off. Obama is capable of better. I’m just sayin’.

  24. “R”,

    ———————————————

    1. Spit in his face?
    2. Kick him in the balls?
    3. Call him a POS?
    4. Treat him with the same respect any President deserves and perhaps even have her picture taken with him?

    No, that would be wishful thinking on her Daddy’s part. In fact, you’ll be glad to know that the classy broad I’m married to, never sure what my reaction would be, never even told me until after the fact. How’s that for a smart woman?

    I told her mother had I known, at the very least I would have bought her a box of tomatoes with my name on it, but you’ll be glad to know that she was most gracious.

    Even me, of the MaO Bama disdain found it pretty neat. And as far as I know, nobody else in my family holds MaO in such low accord, so my oldest was unfortunately gracious. I must admit that Barack Hussein no doubt a historical figure. How many 20 year old kids get to shake hands with two Presidents in one day?

    Pretty cool…

  25. Tex, pretty cool indeed! I am jealous! 🙂

    P.S. I’m surprised you would have opted for tomatoes. Wouldn’t it have satisfied you more if she’d thrown a nice high heel shoe at him? 😉

  26. By the way, while we’re on the subject of Presidents, Tex I’m sure you’ll be delighted to know that Bush 41 yesterday called Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, “two sick puppies”. 🙂

  27. R-

    RE:Ben, probably not. I know I’m gonna sound like a social conservative saying this but I think in many aspects of our former social normalcy, decency and restraint, the genie is out of the bottle and he ain’t going back in.

    I fail to see how this makes you sound like a social conservative.

    I hold the view that mores and adherence to traditional norms don’t belong to a specific political party.

    But I agree with you; the genie is out.

    I think the battle against accepting pablum for information begins by being aware of it and recognizing it for what it is when we see it.

  28. RE:At least Clinton go to the point where he could have taken out Bin Laden.

    Yea – twice – and twice, he screwed it up.

    Clinton had been given intelligence reports in 1996 that Al Qaeda terrorists planned using commercial airplanes as bombing missiles. Sudan captured Osama bin Laden and offered him to Saudi Arabia. The Saudis didn’t want him. Clinton could have requested bin Laden from Sudan, but didn’t.

    Some time later, while Bill was watching a golf game on T.V. he was interrupted and quickly briefed on the location of bin Laden and was encouraged to authorize a launch of a strike force already waiting for the word. He stalled and lost the opportunity to launch a direct strike on Osama bin Laden at the confirmed location.

    http://www.amazon.com/Dereliction-Duty-Eyewitness-President-Compromised/dp/0895261405

  29. Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, “two sick puppies”.

    That doesn’t do justice to puppies. Even sick puppies are lovable.

    I would have called them two vile POS(s) worthy of stoning. 😉

  30. I quit smoking three years ago using a Swedish smokeless tobacco called snus. You don’t spit, its discreet and I was comfortable with possible side effects (compared to smoking it’s seriously 99% safer). I even discussed it with my doctor. I am so much healthier since I switched to snus.

    Sure, some of you will call me out for not quitting tobacco. Others will have a knee jerk reaction to anything that is made with tobacco, ignoring the facts. No doubt, my answer to quitting smoking was outside the box a bit. I did it myself, via my own research. I am convinced snus could save hundreds of thousands of lives.

    Now, Nanny Government, being the hamfisted dumb asses that they are, are working hard to ban my solution to a terrible habit.

    For anyone who cares:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/council_votes_to_boost_butts_BI2ZpyE5ZQHnOSO6cGVvAL

    Are we free people?

  31. Rutherford: “I don’t need to remember back that far. How about Bush and Rumsfeld?”

    Then you must remember how that eventually ended.

    Bush learned from the mistake, and successfully corrected it.

    I’ll be surprised if any conservatives fault Obama for giving the General what he’s asking for. Any that do deserve full well the criticism they take for being hypocrites, and I, for 1, will be right there with you pointing a finger at them.

  32. Obama’s National Security Advisor Signs on to be Keynote Speaker at Anti-Israel Conference….

    (American Spectator)- James Jones, President Obama’s National Security Advisor, has agreed to be the keynote speaker at the anti-Israel group J Street’s first annual conference in Washington next week. While the group bills itself as the “pro Israel” and “pro peace” alternative to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, in reality it is a liberal organization actively campaigning against Israel’s right to defend itself. As Michael Goldfarb has noted, other speakers at the conference include Eli Pariser, the former director of Moveon.org, and Salam Al-Marayati, who was quoted in the New York Times in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks saying Israel should be considered a prime suspect:

    ”If we’re going to look at suspects, we should look to the groups that benefit the most from these kinds of incidents, and I think we should put the state of Israel on the suspect list because I think this diverts attention from what’s happening in the Palestinian territories so that they can go on with their aggression and occupation and apartheid policies.”

    The announcement that Jones will speak comes as a growing number of Democratic members of Congress have announced they would drop out of participating in the conference, causing J Street to blame the Weekly Standard for employing a “classic ‘swift boat’ move” by publishing actual statements made by participants in the conference.

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/10/obamas-national-security-advisor-signs-on-to-be-keynote-speaker-at-antiisrael-conference.html

    What a shock. Well not really

  33. Surprise: Obama reverses course, chooses engagement with Sudan
    posted at 8:01 pm on October 17, 2009 by Allahpundit

    Say this for him: His approach to human-rights abusers is entirely consistent. In this case, it simply took him a few years to work up the nerve to acknowledge it.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/17/surprise-obama-reverses-course-chooses-engagement-with-sudan/

    Well its consistent with his avoiding the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. Thuggy hates freedom and free people.

  34. I don’t give a fu*k about snus, and it probably is better, I wouldn’t know. And personally, I don’t care if people kill themselves off smoking tobacco, it’ll control population numbers. All I care is that it’s effecting people that don’t smoke.
    Our school had us fill out this dumbass survey asking questions about the smokers on campus and whether we agree that smoking areas outside school building should be further away from the doors. It’s been a year and everytime I walk into a building I have to go through smelling people’s smoke. So yeah, they’re free to ruin my lungs.

  35. Hey Rabbit, call me slow but does “snus” sound like “snuff” or like “snooze”?

    And by the way, the part I don’t get is why can’t you use the snus to get off the cigs and then taper down the use of the snus to the point that you stop that too? It sounds like the value of snus is to get you off cigs, not get you addicted to something else.

  36. I quit cigarettes (for the last time) only when I realized I enjoyed them. I remembered how my body reacted to taking that first “drag” and knew I had to return my body back to that state of rejection.

    So I changed the brand to something which made me gag at every drag.

    It worked.

    Now I can’t stand being in the same room with an ashtray.

    I’m happy with that state.

  37. “While I cannot swear that Beck runs all that deep, it does appear that unlike some of his peers, Hannity, O’Reilly and even Limbaugh, Beck wants to plumb the depths of academia to support his points. It appears that the man actually reads. He does not, at least on occasion, treat his audience as a league of dumb followers. He presents them with ideas to chew on.”-R

    Exactly what intellectual ideas have Beck presented to his audience that Rush hasn’t?

    I don’t get it.

    And how do you know that Rush isn’t well read?

    And who cares if Rush isn’t well versed in philosophers like Hegel (I apologize about using Hegel as an example every time).

    And what left wing TV/radio personality do you consider to be intellectual?

    Other then your post being an underhanded insult against free market and conservative voices on radio and TV, I honestly didn’t get your point.

    R.J. Pestritto: “But he’s on to something with his [Beck] interest in a serious analysis of liberalism’s patrimony.”

    Patrimony? Here is a definition for you:

    1 a : an estate inherited from one’s father or ancestor b : anything derived from one’s father or ancestors : heritage
    2 : an estate or endowment belonging by ancient right to a church

    This Pestritto guy is claiming that Beck might be special becuase intellectualism is the left’s birth right.

    Free market ideas espoused by, say, Sean Hannity are not intellectual. Only liberal ideas apparently are.

    Hegel: intellectual and deep
    Adam Smith: boorish.

    In one sweep he is claiming conservatism to be non intellectual while also claiming all truly “deep” thinking to be the bedrock of Liberalism. A bedrock that you, sir, are clueless about. Yet, you are a liberal. So is this bedrock an illusion? Or are you a moron according to Pestritto?

    This Pestritto guy is EXACTLY why the right gives the middle finger to academics. He is full of total shit and nothing but a self righteous, haughty college campus asshole.

    I posted this on the current thread becuase I feel you need to answer my questions in front everybody.

  38. Jesse “Shakedown” Jackson to headline CAIR banquet next week

    The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) announced on Friday that none other than Jesse “Shakedown” Jackson will be headlining their annual banquet next Saturday. He will be sharing the stage with 1993 World Trade Center bombing unindicted co-conspirator Siraj Wahhaj.

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199265.php

    Man has no morals

  39. Rabbit,

    It should be obvious to most that not only does the left not have a stranglehold on intellectualism, but in fact have a huge inferiority complex. This is why they must trumpet their intellect. If you’re smart, you don’t have to blow your own horn (excuse the lame excuse at the double entendre).

    On another note, I was thinking the other day about the Rush Limbaugh attempt at being a partner in the purchase of a professional football team. Seems Rush’s points are too controversial? And it got me to thinking about the blatant hypocrisy of our media.

    For instance, I happened to turn on the TV one Sunday evening a couple of weeks ago to see that NBC and the NFL had no problem with Keith Olbermann now being a large part of the Sunday football wrap up.

    Perhaps Wally Curator would like to comment about the justification and fairness concerning this matter? About the selective judgment in from the media?

  40. More proof of my charges as to the why NASA seems to be stuck in the muck of 80s technology, showing little real progress the last 20 years. As I suspected, libs have infiltrated a once great organization publicizing data only when it meets the notion of James Hansen and Co:

    http://townhall.com/columnists/PatrickJMichaels/2009/10/16/deafening_silence_on_real_climate_change

    Is there anything that “progressives” haven’t screwed up and lied about in the country? I can’t think of one right off hand.

  41. Today, reading the news for the first time in weeks reminds me of the one and only great President we’ve had during my lifetime:

    “Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.” ~ Ronald Reagan

  42. Barack Obama’s Anti-Semitic Website

    As noted many times here, Barack Obama has never shown much respect for the freedom of speech, or any interest in protecting it — quite the contrary. However, he shows no interest in restricting genuine and vile hate speech on his own website. “Barack Obama’s Anti-Semitic Website,” by Pamela Geller at Big Government, October 17:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/10/barack-obamas-anti-semitic-website.html

    Thuggy just learn his hate of Jews from his “church”

  43. Excuse me Rutherford, as I will now comment on your post and your video so you not think I am not paying attention.

    You were incredibly critical of the Bush performance after Katrina and his comments about the respective FEMA leadership. How is Obama’s comment about his own great FEMA leadership any different than a “hell of a job” from Bush, which it obviously is not?

    ——————————————

    You want to know my real opinion about New Orleans and Katrina? New Orleans needs to pick it up and help New Orleans – it could learn from Mississippi or Iowa or Missouri or Galveston. This is a waste of monies rebuilding much of what will certainly be destroyed again – that is just a matter of time. If the locals wish to rebuild, let them inherit the risk in doing so. I am sure that sounds heartless and harsh – but that is reality.

    People should have been compensated to the degree possible and much of what is being rebuilt razed.

    This is more stupidity on behalf of our American gov’t caving to demand while pandering for votes, when we are one step from fiscally sinking as a nation. The truth is Rutherford, the federal government incapable of dealing with problems of this magnitude. It is bloated with bureaucrats, corrupt and terribly inefficient/inept. What I don’t understand is that on points like, this you and I can’t come to an agreement as such.

    That is that government can no longer afford to act as benevolent granddaddy to every person, place and thing.

  44. Elric –

    RE:Cracks me up that the biggest whiners about the Katrina response want the same people to control their healthcare. Morons, all of them.

    Good point – if they loved FEMA’s response, wait ’till they get into an emergency room controlled by the same government.

    Tex –
    RE:You want to know my real opinion about New Orleans and Katrina? New Orleans needs to pick it up and help New Orleans – it could learn from Mississippi or Iowa or Missouri or Galveston. This is a waste of monies rebuilding much of what will certainly be destroyed again – that is just a matter of time. If the locals wish to rebuild, let them inherit the risk in doing so. I am sure that sounds heartless and harsh – but that is reality.

    What kills me is that prior to Katrina despite the long calls for funding to build up the levies, the response was always one of ‘not enough money but here is a pittance of what you ask for.’

    After Kartina that same government has no qualms about pouring billions into a swamp bowl where we should have learned a lesson and just bulldozed it over and put a concrete cap over it with a sign which said “Dump idea to build here. Lesson learned”.

  45. You all can fault the media for focusing on this story, but it’s very important that the media finds out if people are being trustworthy or not. If it wasn’t for this “media frenzy” and constant coverage, these parents would have never been looked into further and found out to be liars.

    So, no, the time is not to turn off the cameras. This whole post is a disappointment now 😛

  46. US condemns Iran suicide attack

    The U.S. has condemned a suicide attack that killed five Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps members today.

    Five commanders of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards were killed in suicide attacks in Iran’s southeastern Sistan-Baluchistan province bordering Pakistan, according to reports.

    The Baluch group Jundullah claimed responsibility for the attack, that killed some 30 people.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/laurarozen/1009/Irans_Revolutionary_Guards_killed_in_Baluchistan_suicide_attack.html

    Thuggy is quick to condemn attacks on his thuggish allies.

  47. I wish people had gone to the same trouble of vetting Obama as they have in determining this story to be “trustworthy”. I guess this story just doesn’t have the polish, slickness and charisma to pass muster.

  48. NY Times reporter, held captive by the Taliban, gets hit with a giant cluebat

    Able to observe the Taliban close up for an extended period, a New York Times reporter discovers that they aren’t actually the moderate nationalists that his own paper may have led him to believe they were. “7 Months, 10 Days in Captivity,” by David Rohde in the New York Times, October 17 (thanks to Sounder):

    Over those months, I came to a simple realization. After seven years of reporting in the region, I did not fully understand how extreme many of the Taliban had become. Before the kidnapping, I viewed the organization as a form of “Al Qaeda lite,” a religiously motivated movement primarily focused on controlling Afghanistan.

    Living side by side with the Haqqanis’ followers, I learned that the goal of the hard-line Taliban was far more ambitious. Contact with foreign militants in the tribal areas appeared to have deeply affected many young Taliban fighters. They wanted to create a fundamentalist Islamic emirate with Al Qaeda that spanned the Muslim world.

    And beyond. As Beitullah Mehsud put it in 2007, “We will continue our struggle until foreign troops are thrown out. Then we will attack them in the US and Britain until they either accept Islam or agree to pay jazia (a tax in Islam for non-Muslims living in an Islamic state).”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/10/ny-times-reporter-held-captive-by-the-taliban-gets-hit-with-a-giant-cluebat.html

    Oh boy Thuggy is going to surrender to them. Yipee!

  49. Tex, in all seriousness, should we eliminate FEMA altogether? Should all emergencies, of any nature, be handled at the state level? I’m not making an argument right now, I’m asking a question.

  50. The Baluch group Jundullah claimed responsibility for the attack, that killed some 30 people.

    It was a terrorist act. So Elric, now you’re against condemning terrorist acts?

  51. So Elric, the goalposts have changed you’re telling me? Now the Taliban is the enemy?

    Well, if the reporter is right, this spells a long and nasty quagmire for the US, We have to send in lots more troops to “civilize” a country with an illegally elected government that we cannot count on for support.

    Great choice for Obama to have to make … obviously easy choice for CiC Elric.

  52. Rutherford,

    You would get no argument from me about getting rid of FEMA. The disbursement of funds is arbitrary at best and certainly open to abuse. I believe locals could handle the problem much more efficiently.

    With something the size of Katrina where the entire town was affected, the Fed could assist I suppose. I just know that our government in an emergency has proven less than effective no matter who runs the show.

  53. Yeah Sensico, the “Rep for That” video also appears on Curator’s blog. It is absolutely sensational!!! I love it.

    But here is the comment I posted over at Curator’s:

    This was an absolute pleasure to watch. What is troubling however is that none of these people just walked into Congress. They were all elected. This means there are enough nutjobs in this country, to send these loonie tunes to Congress in the first place. Could really keep you up at night if you dwell on it.

  54. So, no, the time is not to turn off the cameras. This whole post is a disappointment now 😛

    Nope, Sensico, you still don’t get it. The fact that it turned out to be a hoax does not mean the cameras should be rolling when the kid is vomiting. Unless you’re saying the vomiting was an “act” too. :-p

  55. Iran blames U.S., vows revenge for suicide attack that killed six top commanders
    posted at 6:54 pm on October 18, 2009 by Allahpundit
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    What’s the bigger news here? That Iran’s willing to make an accusation this incendiary while The One’s trying to warm up to them with nuke talks? Or that there’s a very, very, very slim chance that … they might be right?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/18/iran-blames-u-s-vows-revenge-for-suicide-bomber-who-killed-six-top-military-commanders/

    I guess Thuggy wasnt quick enough to condemn it.

  56. “Unless you’re saying the vomiting was an “act” too.” – R

    lol, well….at least it got child protective services is looking into the well being of the children.

    100% agree with your comment on the vid. I found it especially bothersome that Michelle Bachmann still won after the election. But if you think about it, at least you can tell theres progress when these congressman can no longer skate through elections. Some of them are just now having their first democratic challenger while other face tougher elections.

  57. I found it especially bothersome that Michelle Bachmann still won …

    To this day I am dumbfounded that Bachmann won AFTER appearing on Hardball and saying unAmerican congressmen needed to be investigated by the media. Joe McCarthy is laughing his ass off up there somewhere.

  58. R-

    RE: “…needed to be investigated by the media. ”

    Do you mean investigating like that awesome investigative work “they” embarked upon about ACORN ?

    Yea – I wouldn’t advise that you hold your breath while waiting for that to happen, unless of course, you turn to Fox News. If you can ignore the shrill and emotionally driven protests of your peers, if you did, you might re-discover investigative reporting.

  59. I happened to turn on the TV one Sunday evening a couple of weeks ago to see that NBC and the NFL had no problem with Keith Olbermann now being a large part of the Sunday football wrap up.

    Tex, sometimes your lack of logic is astounding. Where is the parallel of a news commentator being allowed to do sportscasting on his same network vs a news commentator being allowed to OWN a sports team? Makes no sense whatsoever.

  60. lmao, and lets also point out that Keith Olbermann use to be a sports commentator. I mean, I highly doubt NBC let him do that because he was a mean ole liberal.

  61. Exactly what intellectual ideas have Beck presented to his audience that Rush hasn’t?

    Rabbit I’m not quite sure why you have such an intellectual stick up your ass regarding the Beck article. I thought I gave you a sufficient answer in that thread, but let me try again here.

    My impression is that Beck brings scholars on his show now and again to provide background and context for his views. Limbaugh, by his own admission, does not have guests, period.

    You may think Pestritto is a horse’s ass. I won’t argue with that. My article wasn’t a defense of Pestritto. I was making the very simple point, that there was more to Beck the clown than I had realized and that liberals who dismiss him as I had done, do so at their own risk, His arguments need to see the light of day and sufficient scrutiny that well intentioned viewers don’t get led down a path to a wrong conclusion simply because the Beck argument might have a slight veneer of erudition.

    It was really as simple as that.

  62. Obama Drops Plan to Isolate Sudan Leaders

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    Published: October 16, 2009

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has formulated a new policy for Sudan that proposes working with that country’s government, rather than isolating it as President Obama had pledged to do during his campaign.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/17/world/africa/17sudan.html?_r=1&em

    Another lie by Thuggy. But how could he resist? He loves them genocidal islamists.

  63. Unions, Lenin, and the American Way

    My earlier article Obama the Pitchfork Operator: A Remake of the Soviet Classic pointed at the similarities between Obama’s and Stalin’s methods of governing by pitting unions against businesses. Many readers have emailed me asking to write more and compare the roles of the unions under socialism (as it existed in the USSR) and capitalism (as it exists in the USA). This essay is an expanded response to their questions.

    1. Lenin: Trade Unions are a School of Communism
    2. Incoming: Forced Inequality and Economic Injustice
    3. Unions: A Study in Collective Greed and Selfishness
    4. Rigging the Economy in the Name of “Justice”
    5. Want a Financial Crisis? Impose “Fairness”
    6. The Fallacy of “Economic Equality”
    7. Joyriding the Gravy Train of Material Inequality

    http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=4214

    Long but insightful article. Drones need not bother reading it.

  64. Rutherford,

    Tex, sometimes your lack of logic is astounding. Where is the parallel of a news commentator being allowed to do sportscasting on his same network vs a news commentator being allowed to OWN a sports team? Makes no sense whatsoever.

    You are of course right in your assessment. It was a weak analogy on my behalf.

    Being that the owners of the NFL are a small clique and well hidden from the public with I doubt only a small number of football fans being able to name but one or two owners, Limbaugh’s owning a small portion of a team should be a non issue.

    And being that Keith Olbermann being a mainstay of the NFL as announcer and commentator say like Terry Bradshaw, and therefore by definition a recognized face as representation of the NFL, the fact that Olbermann is allowed to be a representative is more egregious

    Thank you for pointing that out. So while you may consider my opinion illogical, I consider your blind eye to the obvious simple stupidity. 😉

  65. Tex, I was about to partially agree with you on the potential conflict of a news commentator also doing sports announcing until I remembered Howard Cosell. As I recall, Cosell (a lawyer by training) was quite outspoken politically. Folks CAN wear different hats.

  66. Disgusting: US Searching For A Way To Announce That They Have Agreed To Allow Iran To Locally Enrich Uranium . . .
    This boarders on treason . . .

    The United States is considering ways to officially announce that it has agreed to Iran’s demand to locally enrich uranium, sources say.

    The US has held private meetings with its European allies in order to inform them about the decision, the sources close to the upcoming meeting between Iran and Western powers in Vienna told Press TV on Sunday.

    According to reports, the US decision has been criticized by Europeans who called it another blow to the United States following its agreement to hold talks with the Islamic Republic without preconditions that included suspension of enrichment activities.

    Experts from Iran, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the United States, Russia and France are scheduled to attend a meeting scheduled to be held in Vienna on Monday (October 19) to discuss Iran’s latest package of proposals.

    The proposal was first introduced on October 1, when Iranian representatives and diplomats from the five permanent members of the UN Security Council – Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States – plus Germany (P5+1) held high-level negotiations in Geneva.

    Iran says it needs nuclear energy as solely aimed at producing electricity, and rejects Western allegations that the country is after atomic weapons.

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/10/disgusting-us-searching-for-a-way-to-announce-that-they-have-agreed-to-allow-iran-to-locally-enrich-.html

    Thuggy’s treason never surprises me

  67. Al-Qaeda Recruitment Rising Even With Obama in Office….

    BERLIN — Midway through a propaganda video released last month by a group calling itself the German Taliban, a surprise guest made an appearance: a cleanshaven, muscular gunman sporting the alias Abu Ibrahim the American.

    The gunman did not speak but wore military fatigues and waved his rifle as subtitles identified him as an American. The video contained a stream of threats against Germany if it did not withdraw its troops from the NATO-led mission in Afghanistan. Although the American’s part in the film lasted only a few seconds, it has alarmed German and U.S. intelligence officials, who are still puzzling over his background, his real identity and how he became involved with the terrorist group.

    U.S. and European counterterrorism officials say a rising number of Western recruits — including Americans — are traveling to Afghanistan and Pakistan to attend paramilitary training camps. The flow of recruits has continued unabated, officials said, in spite of an intensified campaign over the past year by the CIA to eliminate al-Qaeda and Taliban commanders in drone missile attacks.

    Since January, at least 30 recruits from Germany have traveled to Pakistan for training, according to German security sources. About 10 people — not necessarily the same individuals — have returned to Germany this year, fueling concerns that fresh plots are in the works against European targets.

    Rest here>>>

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/10/alqaeda-recruitment-rising-even-with-obama-in-office.html

    They know a weak POS when they see one

  68. Rutherford,

    I really hate to point out the obvious non sequitur as you continue to contradict yourself in responses, sometimes within minutes of each other. I can only surmise you must be sniffing glue again.

    Folks CAN wear different hats.

    Except Rush Limbaugh, right? Once again, your defense rings hollow. Don't quit your day job and head to law school Rutherford.

  69. Tex the trick with your buddy Rush is that he wanted to own a team with a high minority population and he was on record making questionable remarks about minorities. Sure Rush can wear different hats. The folks handing out the hats get to say which ones he wears.

    My guess is if Keith Olbermann used his MSNBC forum to make questionable comments about blacks, he might not only be fired altogether but the company might think twice about putting him in the football broadcast booth.

  70. My guess is if Keith Olbermann used his MSNBC forum to make questionable comments about blacks, he might not only be fired altogether but the company might think twice about putting him in the football broadcast booth.

    Ah, but Metrosexual Overbite does make questionable statements about blacks. Just a few off the top of my head: (1) Clarence Thomas, (2) Michael Steele, (3) J.C. Watts, (4) Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson. Is that straight up racism on behalf of Overbite? Once again, our “intellectual” blog owner shows the incredible double standard in judgment – almost routine now. Surely he could get in some black victimization in there somewhere.

    And does that excuse the feckless Olbermann because his screed is directed mostly at whites, which by the way make up the largest majority of NFL fans Big “R”?

    No, as usual your commentary both mundane and inconclusive.

  71. I seem to be having real problems closing my blockquotes today. Probably because I’m disillusioned with the quality of my opponent’s rhetorical wisdom – being a Harvard man, and all.

  72. So, disappointed, Mike Vike was allowed back in the NFL. His career should end just like Rush Limbaugh’s should. Of course, I get called racist if I don’t think Mike Vike should have a job. And of course I get called racists by Limbaugh if I agree he shouldn’t have owned any bit of the NFL.

  73. Vick paid his dues, why should he banned from performing his trade?

    I believe in giving people a second chance if they pay their dues to society.

  74. Rush got screwed. Professional team owners have historically always been outspoken. Rush wouldn’t have been the first, nor the last.

    Money is supposed to talk and bull shit is supposed to walk. That’s what my pappy always taught me.

    total garbage the man was railroaded because of his beliefs (which are simply witty expressions of traditional conservatism).

    You guys think the man is the devil. You need to read about the real Beelzebub and get a clue of how he truly expresses himself in the world today. It aint Rush.

  75. “Vick paid his dues, why should he banned from performing his trade?

    I believe in giving people a second chance if they pay their dues to society.”

    Well if you cant be part owner of a NFL team over lies, then you shouldnt be allowed to play if you killed a bunch of dogs.

  76. “So, disappointed, Mike Vike was allowed back in the NFL. His career should end just like Rush Limbaugh’s should. Of course, I get called racist if I don’t think Mike Vike should have a job. And of course I get called racists by Limbaugh if I agree he shouldn’t have owned any bit of the NFL.”

    Not racist, just stupid…

  77. 1500 plus pages. I wonder what the dirt bag thieves have hidden in that 15 hundred page monstrosity to dry fuck all of us?

  78. “two wrongs don’t make a right”

    Sometimes they do, especially when you are dealing with leftist hypocrisy. I hope the NFL pays a huge financial price for it. I certainly can do without the NFL.

  79. “1500 plus pages. I wonder what the dirt bag thieves have hidden in that 15 hundred page monstrosity to dry fuck all of us?”

    Better yet, what will they stick in the bill in the middle of the night.

  80. Video: Soldiers Not Happy With Obama’s New Rules of Engagement, Morale Plummets, Casualties Rising….

    As I’ve pointed out before, this is McChrystal’s rules of engagement … the man who you want so desperately for Obama to listen to.

  81. For those who don’t want to keep referring back to the Palin thread, I must update you that a new threat is on the horizon!

    Lord Monckton is warning us that if we sign a climate change treaty at the end of the year, it will mean the end of America as we know it!

    Watch … and be afraid … be very afraid!!

  82. Too awesome for words.

    So was the big chewed piece of bubblegum I threw on the hood of some schmuck’s hood this morning who happened to have a sticker on the back of his/her truck:

    End of an Error 1/20/2009

    After sitting in the sun all day, I’ll bet that son-of-a-bitch was crystallized to the paint. How’s that for being juvenile Rutherford? There’s a little Hope & Change you can believe in!

  83. Zo Responds To ‘Go Back To The Porch’ Comment Aimed At Juan Williams: ‘We’re Not Sell-Outs. We’re Just Out-Out Of The Shackles That You’re Still In’…

  84. Elric,

    That guy speaks truth more eloquently about Black America than I ever could. Add to the fact he too is black, and I believe that about shoots down the argument of how faithful the Democratic party has been for blacks. Note that his list of black conservatives is a recipe of success.

    No Rutherford and Sensico would rather shackle themselves to “black” values, immorality and faux victimization.

    There are a few like Zo that get it.

  85. Tex,

    They also want to shackle themselves to the state. Dont know how being a slave to the state is that much different than the plantation.

    Also notice Rush gets smeared for things he didnt say but no outrage over the blatant racist statement towards Juan Williams.

    Disgusting on so many levels

  86. That guy speaks truth more eloquently about Black America than I ever could.

    Yeah, I can picture it now, Tex. You and your homie strolling through the ‘hood sticking wads of chewing gum on the cars of Obama supporters.

    WORD!

  87. Yeah, I can picture it now, Tex. You and your homie strolling through the ‘hood sticking wads of chewing gum on the cars of Obama supporters.

    They act like animals enough and are generally doing much worse to their bro’s car than bubble gum. They wouldn’t notice the piece of bubblicious baking on the hood, as that would only add color. That wouldn’t represent change you can believe in.

    Odds are pretty good this was a honkey car, being 98% of the campus whitey. And you of all people should know of my color blindness when it comes to MaO supporters – they are equally shameless in my book. A good Conservative never discriminates in their disdain of Obama anything…. 😉

    SHAZAM!

  88. R,

    This Zo guy is great. I had never heard of him before.

    Why isn’t MaO over in Poland explaining to the Polish why they don’t need a missile shield?

    What part of that could you possibly agree with, besides libs are cowards?

  89. Tex,

    Thuggy wont even go to Berlin for the 20th Anniversary of the fall of the Wall. I guess the freeing of so many people was too traumatic for him. Thuggy hates freedom.

  90. SHAZAM!

    LOL that was good!

    Actually you caught me in a bigoted moment. When I pictured you and Zo in the hood, I was thinking more about where he might roam (with you following) vs any antipathy you might have for black-owned vehicles.

    Of course, given Zo’s views, he probably hangs with way more whites than blacks. 😉

  91. Why isn’t MaO over in Poland explaining to the Polish why they don’t need a missile shield?

    You mean why they don’t need a missile shield that is outmoded and won’t work. 😉

  92. “Listen Bobby [five year old], it’s perfectly ok for Timmy [five year old classmate] to want to stick his wee-wee up your bum-bum. Have no fear.”

    ROTFL … one thing I love about this new administration is that it is driving conservatives batshit crazy! Every conservative nightmare, from trying to turn enemies into allies, to teaching tolerance towards gays is coming true simultaneously. And the best part is that a good number of Obama staffers have made an offhand statement (liberals that they are) that while completely preposterous, still sends conservatives running for their Quaaludes!

    Don’t worry Elric, I don’t think we’ll be teaching kindergartners any time soon about the specifics of homosexuality.

    P.S. Get that self-identification of gay-ness off your MySpace page yet? 😉

  93. Poll: Economy more important than health care, climate combined
    posted at 2:55 pm on October 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

    And note that this Public Strategies poll has a bit of skew in it as well towards Democrats in its sample. Even with a ten-point gap for Democrats over Republicans, though, the economy takes center stage for voters, leaving health care and climate change in the dust. As Politico reports, as a partner to Public Strategies in this poll, pro-business sentiment has increased since Barack Obama took office, which makes the effort to regulate less popular now:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/20/poll-economy-more-important-than-health-care-climate-combined/

  94. Video: What would the federal deficit buy?
    posted at 2:20 pm on October 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

    When we hear about deficits exceeding $1.4 trillion for both FY2009 and FY2010, the number gets so large that it becomes unreal. We may as well be talking about bazillions, for all of the relating we can do to it. Nick Gillespie at Reason.tv helps us out with a short video explaining exactly what all of that money could be buying us, if we still had it, and if we still wanted to spend it if we did. And some of these options sound much better than the pork projects that the federal government will fund with the money now:

  95. Sebelius: I’m all for single-payer system, eventually
    posted at 11:36 am on October 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

    Behold yet another political Rorschach test on video, from our friends at Verum Serum, who do a great job of finding them. When Kathleen Sebelius told an audience at the JFK Center at Harvard in 2007 that she was in favor of “a single-payer system, eventually,” does that negate the earlier statement that she finds dismantling the existing system to get there unproductive? You make the call:

  96. RE:money wasted in Iraq

    Pfft. For that money you call “wasted” I see it well spent to get rid of an asshole who embarked upon campaigns of political oppression, ethnic cleansing, religious persecution, the Dujail Massacre and the abduction of some 8,000 members of Barzani’s clan, including hundreds of women and children, assumed that most were slaughtered. Thousands have been discovered in mass graves in southern Iraq.

    The worst human rights abuses of Hussein’s tenure took place during the genocidal al-Anfal Campaign (1986-1989), in which Hussein’s administration called for the extermination of every living thing–human or animal–in certain regions of the Kurdish north. All told, some 182,000 people–men, women, and children–were slaughtered, many through use of chemical weapons. The Halabja poison gas massacre of 1988 alone killed over 5,000 people. Hussein later blamed the attacks on the Iranians, and the Reagan administration, which supported Iraq in the Iran-Iraq War, helped promote this cover story.

    Hussein did not limit his genocide to identifiably Kurdish groups; he also targeted the predominantly Shiite Marsh Arabs of southeastern Iraq, the direct descendants of the ancient Mesopotamians. By destroying more than 95% of the region’s marshes, he effectively depleted its food supply and destroyed the entire millennia-old culture, reducing the number of Marsh Arabs from 250,000 to approximately 30,000. It is unknown how much of this population drop can be attributed to direct starvation and how much to migration, but the human cost was unquestionably high.

    In the aftermath of Operation Desert Storm, the United States encouraged Kurds and Shiites to rebel against Hussein’s regime–then withdrew and refused to support them, (we couldn’t; it would have been a violation of the U.N. resolution with the expressed purpose of expelling Iraqi forces from Kuwait after its invasion and annexation on 2 August 1990.) leaving an unknown number to be slaughtered. At one point, Hussein’s regime killed as many as 2,000 suspected Kurdish rebels every day. Some two million Kurds hazarded the dangerous trek through the mountains to Iran and Turkey, hundreds of thousands dying in the process.

    As I see it, that money was well spent and if you have any ideas about the value of ending tyranny directly responsible for genocide and the gassing of its own people, perhaps you should, too.

  97. You mean why they don’t need a missile shield that is outmoded and won’t work.

    Where do you get your technical information, “R”? People Magazine? Oprah? The View? Keith Overbite?

    For something that doesn’t work, Putin certainly seemed to have concerns that it did. In fact, he was just sure of it. Do you have something to share that nobody else knows?

    More lies from the leftist.

  98. Where do you get your technical information, “R”?

    Here are articles covering it from military oriented sites (hardly sites written by peaceniks):

    A good easy to understand article, albeit with a poltical bent:
    http://www.allourmight.com/?p=762

    And a better article, without the politics and a bit more detail:
    http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1408

    Sorry Tex, folks who know more about national defense than you or I say the old system would not work. Just accept it and move on.

    P.S. I might argue that we should not have surprised Poland and Czech Rep with this … I take it that it was a surprise. We should have given them a full briefing so that they could come forward with us to present the new approach.

  99. You didn’t answer my question Rutherford, as usual when you don’t have an answer. Any moron can find links to support his agenda. Want to bet I can find numerous links that says it does work bigshot?

    Why was Putin so insistent that we remove the shield if it doesn’t work Rutherford? Can you riddle me that?. As usual, MaO has been caught with his small dick and his hand and his ball suckers like you are busy making excuse for his incompetence.

  100. As I see it, that money was well spent and if you have any ideas about the value of ending tyranny directly responsible for genocide and the gassing of its own people, perhaps you should, too.

    Sadly, you and I both know that is not how the war was sold to us. Iraq was supposedly a threat to us … horsefeathers!

    Now if we’re in the business of wiping out tyranny, well that will keep us busy 24/7. Let’s send those troops into the Sudan pronto!

  101. Here’s a generic comment from your feckless leader about short-range missile shields. Obviously MaO thinks they work:

    “To put it simply, our new missile-defense architecture in Europe will provide stronger, smarter and swifter defenses of American forces and American allies,” Mr. Obama said.

    I guess you forgot about the missile shield that blew a satellite out of abort, hey? I did my eyes deceive me too?

    ————————————————

    Here’s who agrees with you and President Feckless:

    “This is a recognition by the Americans of the rightness of our arguments about the reality of the threat, or rather the lack of one,” from Iran’s missiles, Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the international affairs committee of Russia’s lower house of parliament, the State Duma, told state television. “Finally the Americans have agreed with us,” he said.

    Sounds like you have great comrades Neville. Perhaps you can help get another 20MM Europeans slaughtered as your track record really solidified.

    Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125317801774419047.html

  102. It first has to be sold to us and we must then feel duped and reports about how much of a waste the war is must be published so that political support for the next one can be undermined.

  103. Here’s a generic comment from your feckless leader about short-range missile shields. Obviously MaO thinks they work:

    Yeah, the sea-based system does work. That is what Obama is referring to, We’re not scrapping strategic defense. We’re replacing an outmoded system with a 21 century solution which by the way, recognizes that the cold war is over.

    I know it’s hard for you to give up the fight against the “commies” but your hero Ronnie Reagan won that fight for you. Like I said, it’s time for you to move on.

  104. It first has to be sold to us and we must then feel duped and reports about how much of a waste the war is must be published so that political support for the next one can be undermined.

    Yup, if I understood your comment correctly, this is the problem precisely. The boy who cried wolf. When our government lies us into one war, it’s hard to believe them when they make the case for another war,

  105. Want to bet I can find numerous links that says it does work bigshot?

    Put your links where your mouth is unless that is you’re afraid of looking as much like a “moron” as I. 😉

  106. Mumford,

    Yeah, the sea-based system does work. That is what Obama is referring to, We’re not scrapping strategic defense. We’re replacing an outmoded system with a 21 century solution which by the way, recognizes that the cold war is over.

    Oh, I see. The sea-based system does work but the land based one does not? I get it…it must be the roiling sea that balances everything out, right? I believe this one ranks up there with minorities incapable of being racist.

    Gawd Mumford, you are an insult to intellect.

  107. which by the way, recognizes that the cold war is over.

    If nothing else comes out of my presence here, I hope I play a small part in exposing how dangerously naive the idiocy of the left is.

    They will end up getting many, many innocent people killed before this is through. A shame that they learn nothing from history.

  108. RE: It first has to be sold to us and we must then feel duped and reports about how much of a waste the war is must be published so that political support for the next one can be undermined.

    Yup, if I understood your comment correctly, this is the problem precisely. The boy who cried wolf. When our government lies us into one war, it’s hard to believe them when they make the case for another war,

    You see it as the ‘boy who cried wolf’ allegory. I see it differently. I’ll explain my original statement above:

    By the time the Desert Storm – the one where we had a U.N. mandate to kick Hussein out of Kuwait – was over, I said to colleagues we would be back in 5 years. I said that because I believe Hussein was not going to take a lesson an play nice with the world. I believed he was evil incarnate. I was in error by 5 years.

    After 9/11 hit us, I was ready to nuke everything over there and would be happy to see a glow in the dark ashtray. Would that be wrong? No matter.

    The world’s intel told just about every country Iraq was working on WMDs and we were in no frame of mind to push those intel reports away and dismiss them. The American psyche was ready and willing and for many good reasons beyond the many atrocities already committed by the man. I would bet that anyone facing the same circumstances would have made the same decision. It would have been irresponsible to ignore Iraq when we started the so-called war on terror. My only beef is that we didn’t hold Mecca hostage as per Tom Tancredo.

    The enemies from within our country already has us to the point where we now don’t trust our own intel. That’s by design. The will soon have you to the point where you won’t even support going into Sudan. It’s called subversion.

    Someone has to do the right thing and I’m happy it was us.

  109. And so how are republicans not ashamed of this shit. My favorite part is what the guy wear socialist obama face paint gets in his tiny energy efficient foreign car lol

  110. Ben,

    Check out that 5 part series I left on the Palin thread. I would suggest drones like Densico watch it but they wouldnt care how their ancestors were treated by the “religion” that shall not be named.

  111. uh, yeah Ben the video you posted in #177 was posted here before and I followed up by showing GOP idiocy. Seriously, we could play this game all day…

  112. That’ it? That’s your response to morons begging for “free” Obama money, uncaring of where it came from or how it will affect anyone else. Ladies and gentlemen, the Democrapic party, where membership requires either no brains or no conscience…

  113. RE:we could play this game all day…

    ROFLMAO – if you keep putting up lame counter-points which don’t prove anything, much less identify who they are, in addition to not even speaking to the topic of the need to have informed voters who know what the hell they’re doing while behind that voting booth, you’re on!! !!! LOL…. bring it… please, bring it!!!! Stop it, you’re killin’ me….

  114. You read some of her real jewels, like when she arrogantly explained to all that taxes are charity, oh but she doesn’t give to charity 😉 True statement, swear to God. She has the IQ of a fence post. I’ve met rocks sharper than her…

  115. in addition to not even speaking to the topic of the need to have informed voters who know what the hell they’re doing while behind that voting booth,…

    Oh no he didn’t!! Ben, you don’t wanna go there. When I suggested several threads ago that lots of Americans shouldn’t be anywhere near a voting booth, I was almost drawn and quartered as un-American.

    Puhleeeze.

  116. Taxes are charity? OMG! Haha-hahahahaaa.. LOL… Oh momy it hurts so bad.. .. STOP IT! I implore no… I BEG you … please stop — I can’t take much more of … glurk!

  117. Really, after that you need specifics? That is the bar for what you are doing to this country- damn the successful and rush to the bottom so we can all be miserable together.

    Those are Obama’s shining stars, he’ll never lose their votes…

  118. who cares about Rush’s lost bid. STFU, move on, unless it’s something new to that story then conservatives need to accept that their lord Limbaugh has failed at something.

  119. RE:that lots of Americans shouldn’t be anywhere near a voting booth…

    You did? Honest? you did? well. Well now it’s not funny anymore.

    I believe that too. Take for example those adult morons in that video who haven’t got the brains to do some deep research into the candidates on their own. They would rather rely on sound bites and skits on SNL to get educated. When they do that they subject themselves to propaganda which is often used to subvert belief systems such as your own…. and theirs.

    When I walked away from the TV and started my own research I was able to identify Obama as the man he is and I’m sure you’ve heard the characterizations before so I won’t have to repeat them.

    Bottom line: while we won’t see a day where people are prevented from voting based upon knowledge of the candidates, what remains true is the incredible responsibility we have when we exercise our rights to vote. This country is too important to just hand it over to the idiots who believe in redistributing wealth and socialist forms of government which history shows over and over it only serves to subjugate its population and breeds mediocrity on multiple levels of society.

    There is a reason this country is the greatest country this planet has ever seen and none of those reasons come from the belief system Obama clings to.

    My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join me as we try to change it. – Barack Obama

    If I am sitting pretty and you’ve got a waitress who is making minimum wage plus tips, and I can afford it and she can’t, what’s the big deal for me to say, I’m going to pay a little bit more? That’s neighborliness. – Barack Obama, Sept. 8, Fox News interview with Bill O’Reilly

    This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably. Trade has been a cornerstone of our growth and global development. But we will not be able to sustain this growth if it favors the few, and not the many. – Barack Obama

    To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists. – Barack Obama

    Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. – Barack Obama

  120. “See, dumbass, this is why you’re a dumbass- you simply don’t learn…” -Gorilla

    um, yeah while I go to work for a few hours, you think of something better. Toodles 😉

  121. RE:Ben, your avatar belongs to dimwit, only inserted into her fourth point of contact….

    I selected that avatar with the idea that during a debate it would be irritating to some to actually argue with an emu.

  122. Regarding 176, actually, I don’t get the problem. She is obviously having economic problems which she thinks Obama will help with, So what? Lots of folks voted for Obama for economic relief. This video is not equivalent to 172.

  123. “You read some of her real jewels, like when she arrogantly explained to all that taxes are charity, oh but she doesn’t give to charity”-Gorilla

    My favorite is when sensico thought the latest liberal talking point was supposed to be a denial that the Libyan terrorist got a hero’s welcome at the airport.

    She posted this underneath the raw video of a band playing and a big crowd cheering for the guy.

    Sensico went on to explain to us that defining a hero’s welcoming is totally subjective and it depends on what your definition of is is or some shit.

    I always picturing her posting that while the actual audio of the home coming band was blaring through her speakers.

    If she was conservative, Rutherford would have a field day with her.

  124. “I won’t have to worry about gas in my car or my mortgage”? We could assume she was speaking to the greater macro economic situation of the country, but she doesn’t stike me as the macroeconomic type…

  125. RE:Regarding 176, actually, I don’t get the problem. She is obviously having economic problems which she thinks Obama will help with, So what? Lots of folks voted for Obama for economic relief. This video is not equivalent to 172.

    She said she believes she will no longer have to pay for her mortgage or gas; Obama is going to pay for everything now.

    She’s about to pee in her panties over the euphoria of not having to worry any more.

  126. “uh, yeah Ben the video you posted in #177 was posted here before and I followed up by showing GOP idiocy. Seriously, we could play this game all day…”

    Sensico played that game all summer. Get a barf bucket and scan through her blog starting from May. You will find one regurgitation of an Obama speech, word for word, and the rest all video clips of individuals she deems wacky.

  127. RE:Sensico went on to explain to us that defining a hero’s welcoming is totally subjective and it depends on what your definition of is is or some shit.

    You mean like the Anita Dunn flap where some can’t see the difference between merely quoting someone and declaring them as your “favorite political philosopher” and one you “turn to most” for inspiration?

    I’m starting to see a theme of the left where they can’t tell the difference in a whole spectrum of issues and sometimes not even being able to determine the things that are right for this country and the things that are wrong for her.

    Certainly those dolts in that video who get their information from SNL don’t know the difference.

  128. UN: Counter-terrorism measure could hurt the feelings of trans-genders

    Forget transgenders … what about butt-ugly women? Seriously, you don’t find it a bit problematic to strip search a woman who looks like she might be a man in drag? I think the situation could get pretty sticky.

  129. RE: …Farakahn and Wright are good friends

    That’s the biggest theme running through the whole Obama administration; Obama has aligned himself with a cornucopia of radicals, Marxist thinkers, Weather Underground terrorists, reverends that are damning… no… wait… reverends that are God damning America and making speeches in foreign countries to give apologies as if it were some prearranged concession to get European backing yet 53% of apparently ignorant dolts voted for this train wreck of a community organizer having absolutely no experience what-so-ever. I’m not the brightest hammer in the box of crayons but even I can see this guy does not have America’s best interest in mind.

    Having Obama as president is tantamount to send Dr. Dvorkian over to see you sick grand-ma. There’s only one outcome.

  130. “I won’t have to worry about gas in my car or my mortgage”? We could assume she was speaking to the greater macro economic situation of the country, but she doesn’t stike me as the macroeconomic type…

    F*ck macroeconomics. It’s a call for economic relief from someone who is suffering … that’s how I SPIN it. You can spin it any way you please.

    And if she were a conservative, she wouldn’t have voted for Obama in the first place … so no she wouldn’t have said what you consider to be “stupid sh*t”.

    Sensico was right, you’re going to get no where fast if you’re going to engage in a “who’s stupider” contest between libs and cons. We can easily go tit for tat all night long. Dumbass Americans come in all stripes. I’m not quite at the point of Bill Maher who thinks MOST of America are dumbasses. I just think a sizable portion are.

  131. Today at work, I witnessed millions of your tax dollars wasted. You can thank Bush for this one.

    No Child Left Behind has created a massive bazaar for professional “educrats” to pawn standardized tests.

    They get paid big money to get together in long lasting committees and create these things.

    Now, since it is so lucrative, guess what? The standards literally change every two or three years. That and the PC police are always finding some new way to word things. This, of course, means more committees and all new tests. On our dime. Over and over and over again.

    Just the logistics to administer the state tests alone cost millions upon millions of dollars.

    Today, due to 8 multiple choice questions on world history that might appear on a standardized social studies test , we begin to spend countless hours creating “common assessments”. These questions we come up with are then put in goofy and overly complicated software run by a person who has been hired to oversee the complicated and goofy software (she is looked after by a curriculum director who makes over a hundred grand a year). This data will be essential in improving on how we do on these 8 multiple choice questions, you see.

    The confused looks at our union meetings these days are priceless. You mean the NEA has given campaign contributions and suckered us all in voting Democrat for the very same people who now are talking about taxing our “gold plated” health insurance plan? The one we fought so hard for? No, it can’t be?

    I’m sure the conservatives here have a ton of ammo to bash me and my union status. All I’m saying is the day my benefits and Union disappear is the day the Rabbit find’s a real man’s job. Someone else can deal with your spoiled, effeminate teenagers. (“Your” is by no means implying you guys, personally.)

    Its hard doing a job where your Union is hijacked at the top by liberal wankers while the right feels the normal laws of supply and demand for a labor market magically don’t apply to such a “noble” profession.

    The union at my district is great. It makes the job worth working. However, it does serve as a money collecting scheme for the far left.
    Why do the Republicans think the Fed could change education for the better?

    Why do the Democrats believe that money thrown at schools (not teachers) could change education for the better?
    Mom and Dad. You are our only hope. Only you can prevent forest fires…err…make your kids productive and smart.

    Want to know a secret? School districts with parents that care are competitive with schools found anywhere in the world.

    It’s lonely being the Rabbit sometimes.

  132. “Sensico was right, you’re going to get no where fast if you’re going to engage in a “who’s stupider” contest between libs and cons.”-R

    Unbelievable. Have you read your own blog the last 6 months?

  133. She said she believes she will no longer have to pay for her mortgage or gas; Obama is going to pay for everything now.

    Sorry but that is NOT what she said. She said “I’m not gonna have to worry about putting gas in my car or paying my mortgage” This can very easily mean Obama will lower taxes and make it easier for her to pay her bills. “If I help him, he’s gonna help me.” — the very essence of participative democracy … she does her part and Obama’s policies will reward her for it.

    Sorry Ben … you cannot nail her on this one.

  134. I think you make a good point with the “worry” part. She was obviously caught up in the moment.

    While Ben is probably correct about her, that she thinks she will be getting free hand outs from Obama, we don’t know for sure. I say she deserves some slack.

    There is clearly a difference between her and my fellow Detroiters standing in the cash grab line.

  135. Farrakhan: Swine Flu Vaccine Developed to Kill Black People….

    Mmmmm, I could’ve sworn that someone in one of these threads posted some doctor saying that we would be quarantined and forced to take the swine flu vaccine and how this was terrible because vaccines are unproven and often kill people.

    So, which is it? Is forcing us to take the swine flu vaccine a fascist plot, or do we now love the vaccine and hate Farrakhan’s brand of paranoia? Funny how when a white doctor tells us how dangerous the vaccine is, her paranoia goes down real easy.

    Please.

  136. Are we sure that Densico had made any dumber statements than some of the beauties the poet Rutherford has laid on us this year, starting with you can’t be racist if you’re in the minority and not empowered?

    When MaO started a free fall in the polls when people finally figured out how dangerous and weak MaO Boma was, Rutherford became Densico’s twin brother.

    It’s been tragic to witness the derangement this year.

  137. “Are we sure that Densico had made any dumber statements than some of the beauties the poet Rutherford has laid on us this year, starting with you can’t be racist if you’re in the minority and not empowered?”-Tex

    Yeah. That was more of a parrot echoing what it was taught from a Sociology 101 class. A funny statement to make during the term of the valid election of a black man. But, it was coherent.

    Nobody here comes close to taking sensico’s championship belt of glorious nonsense.

  138. #218 Wow. All this time I’ve been taking the English language and the printed word literally. I’ve been wrong. Instead I should be thinking in parables and abstract allegories.

    I had no idea that ““I’m not gonna have to worry about putting gas in my car or paying my mortgage” literally means “Obama will lower taxes and make it easier for her to pay her bills.”

    It’s a brand new day. Tomorrow, when I go to the dentist, I’m going to tell Dr. Smith D.D.S. that my butt whistles when I skydive. He’ll know exactly what I mean.

    I just hope I get charged appropriately.

  139. #220 The difference is that one is credible. The other isn’t.

    It starting to sound like you like to take an opposing view just to be argumentative.

  140. Dems Lock GOP Out of Committee Room to Protect Colleagues From Investigation
    Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 7:44 PM
    Jim Hoft

    Here’s the Latest From the Pelosi Swamp–
    House democrats locked Republicans out of a committee room today to avoid a subpoena vote. Democrats for months have refused to launch an investigation into Countrywide Mortgage’s reported sweetheart deals to VIPs.
    The Hill reported:

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/10/dems-lock-gop-out-of-committee-room-to-protect-colleagues-from-investigation/

    Most ethical congress evah!!!!!!!!!!

  141. RE:Most ethical congress evah!!!!!!!!!!

    Politics as usual. I swear, if my mom ever let me walk around as a kid with a diaper as full of sheet as congress is, she’d be put away for cruelty to a diaper.

  142. Ok – we need to post a thread about cross breeding guppies to improve resistance to algae infection so we can talk about Sarah Palin again.

  143. those bastards. Sweet heart deals while the Rabbit laboriously pays Country Wide/Bank of America for a house worth half it’s value.

  144. All this time I’ve been taking the English language and the printed word literally.

    I took her literally also. Not having to worry does not mean she expects Obama to pay her bills. Did you hear her say “Obama will now pay my bills.”?

    Ben you’ve earned a shot on the radio show tonight. By the time you read this, you’ll have to listen to the replay. 😉

  145. Rutherford,

    You didn’t answer my question about Putin and his concern about the missile shield.

    Why would he worry if the missile shield doesn’t work?

  146. Actually Tex, I don’t think Putin will like the sea-based system any better and that won’t stop us from doing it.

    The decision was not made to appease Putin despite the poor optics. It was primarily an economic decision … don’t pour money into a system that won’t work.

  147. btw, I never saw the hero’s welcome video. I can’t see any videos in this comment thread unless I choose to. I was thinking, you thought a little parade in the street would reflect a whole country opinion.

    Thanks again for advertising my blog DR. Even I don’t remember that it twas mid-May that I put conservative hypocrisy and lies on blast.

    show me the comment where I suggested, “you can’t be racist if you’re in the minority and not empowered”. That doesn’t seem like something I’d write cause I think any idiot can be a racist or have so innate racial biased. We all do to a certain degree, it’s only when you act on those racial stereotypes that it becomes a problem.

    And while Ben regurgitates his balls intestines from laughing so hard, you all know that charity comment was not to be taken seriously.

  148. btw, R did you say anything in your chat room before I left? That chat thingy has an annoying delay on it I think. Hopefully you’ll consider some new radio music, it’s extremely annoying

  149. Sensico, if you read carefully you’d notice Tex was poking at me, not you, about minorities inability to be racist. What I presented was the concept that:

    racism = prejudice + power

    In your words, any idiot can be prejudiced but racism involves the power to enforce your prejudice on someone else. The construct suggests that blacks can be prejudiced against whites until the cows come home, so long as it is whites keeping blacks out of a job, or not picking up blacks in taxi cabs, then black prejudice against whites is meaningless.

    It’s more of an academic approach to racism and it held more weight 10 or 20 years ago than it does now since blacks (as witnessed in the ascent of Barack Obama) have more power in this country than ever before.

    As for the music on my show …. BlogTalkRadio doesn’t let you use “real” music … there’s this nasty thing called royalties to worry about. 😉 (Hey if you run across a “podsafe” piece of music you think is better, send me the link and I’ll consider it.)

  150. Man Rutherford,

    Ball sucker doesn’t do you justice. You have got to be one of the most gutless, snake tongued of debaters as you still didn’t answer my question for about the fourth time.

    Obama yanked the shield. Putin was delighted as he was more than convinced it worked, as his insistence in removal and manner prove. The fact you think some sea-based system does work but a land based system doesn’t is such a joke, it only worth the bother to make fun of and point fingers at your gullibility – the same failing system that blew a satellite out of orbit that supposedly doesn’t work. No wonder you’re a Keith Olbermann worshiper.

    You and Densico deserve each other. I now officially put you in the same camp of deep thinkers. Congratulations.

    😛

  151. Hey Tex …. I notice no links to support your point. I know you can’t be too lazy to do the minimal research since you have to do research on a daily basis in your current endeavor.

    C’mon … let’s see the link about the land based system being 21st century cutting edge and while you’re at it, let’s see that link about the land based system that hasn’t been deployed yet shooting a satellite out of the sky.

    Like I said many comments ago … put your links where your mouth is. 😉

  152. now, now, don’t get all jealous when two people agree on some political issues. I’m sure you can salvage your relationship with Elric. Seems like he’s straying away and hooking up with Ben….so sad, I really thought you two had something there.

    Guess it twas all a fantasy, apparently Tex gave 100% and Elric was only gave 50% effort. *sigh*

    You two should work on fixing that relationship…for the kids at least.

  153. Sensico …. LOL that was just too good! Elric is one fickle mofo! Tex one minute, Ben the next. But hey, if I suddenly “saw the light” and launched a campaign against all of Islam, I’d be Elric’s boy toy too! You see, that is his sweet spot. 🙂

    I’m going to bed now while I’m still chuckling. Thanks Sensico! 😀

  154. Densico,

    I think you have me confused with “linking” with anybody. Of course, as butt ugly as you are in that gravatar of yours, I can see can see where your lack of “linking” would be confused. Let’s see our lackey Rutherford get a big hoot out of that one?

    ———————————————

    Okay Rutherford, I’ll take your challenge. But let us make it worth our time. Place your bets and your link challenge will be conducted. What’s it worth to you Bro?

  155. By the way Rutherford. That’s dodge #5 in your avoidance of answering my question.

    I’m going to try to keep asking until you can make the usual lame attempt to answer my question, and on this one the bet is free and no links from lefty, pinko, ball sucking Obama sites are required.

    Why did Putin “fear” the defense shield of “old” technology if it doesn’t work?

  156. “And while Ben regurgitates his balls intestines from laughing so hard, you all know that charity comment was not to be taken seriously.”– Sensico

    Bullshit. Here’s the discussion that that little jewel came from.

    Gorilla:Sensico, I’m curious, do you buy lunch for everyone else at school?
    Maybe you only do it for the “poor”? How do you tell when one is poor and when one is not poor?
    Tell me, how do you think you’d feel, forking out lunch for folks all day long because they can’t afford it, but then you seen one or two of them walking around with a Coach handbag. Maybe they bought, maybe someone else bought it for them, but you can’t get one because it costs too much, and besides, you’re too busy buying floks lunch.
    That’s kind of what it is like for those who have a job and pay taxes, we’re forking out a significant portion of our earnings, more and more, to suppiosedly buy “lunch” for those who can’t, but we’re about to hand them Coach handbags in healthcare.
    The numbers boil down to about 11 million- not 48 million- who want/need but can’t get healthcare. About 89% or American have healthcare and the vast majority of them like the plans that they have. So why aren’t we talking about, if anything, just catastrophic plans for these 11 million, versus the cadilac version the Dems want to push through? There’s no common sense to this thing and I’m sorry, the Dems are not being honest or forthcoming in what it is they plan to do.
    Hoyer and Pelosi wrote an op-ed calling the town halls “un-American”. Bullshit. They’re the most American of all political discourse, just like the tea parties. This nation was founded on the principle that the people controlled government. Not we have unions, environmental groups and populist politicians interested in merely buying votes with other peoples money.
    “When people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”- Benjamin Franklin

    Sensico: I understand the lunch food analogy, I believe in my effort to mock Rabbit, I did admit to being a victim of lunch food bureaucracy lol. I’m not much of a giver anyways, but when the poor is lifted in this country then it benefits all of us. More people paying taxes, means better infrastructure, schools, so on. Places like the secretary of state would function for more days in the week so I can get my license plate on time! The post office would be funded so that they would have awkward hours. More safety with more police on the streets where needed and the fire departments would be adequately funded. I could go on, but you should get the point by now.
    I don’t see what’s wrong with giving health care to those in need. Employers would have more efficient employees and I wont have to be disgusted when I see some sick kid in the McDonald’s drive thru because they couldn’t see the doctors!

    Gorilla: “I’m not much of a giver anyways, but when the poor is lifted in this country then it benefits all of us. More people paying taxes, means better infrastructure, schools, so on.” Sensico
    LOL!!! By all means dear, lift up! See, this is the kind of crap we can all expect from the left, I don’t give, but EVERYONE else should.
    I’m hoping that you have a basic understanding of stratification of governmental responsibility. This means that the Federal government has a responsibility as defined in the Constitution, the States then have their responsibilities as defined in their Constitutions, then Counties, then Cities, etc. The role of the Federal government is not the same as the role of municipal government, in fact, the federal government is limited to only those things specifically cited in the Constitution- EVERYTHING else is left to the states to regulate. So tell me, where is the healthcare mandate for the Fed in the Constitution?
    “Places like the secretary of state would function for more days in the week so I can get my license plate on time! The post office would be funded so that they would have awkward hours. More safety with more police on the streets where needed and the fire departments would be adequately funded. I could go on, but you should get the point by now”. Sensico
    The point is that things like the post office, which is run like a business but can’t make a profit, Amtrak- can’t make a profit, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc, etc, etc- they are all hemorrhaging money. We’re not talking some losses here and there, we’re talking billions of dollars, and while the left may think “billion” is an adjective, those of us who pay taxes know it is a great big fricking noun.
    You don’t pay taxes, so to hear you spout off some mantra about higher taxes is just crap. It’s easy to do when it is someone else paying more taxes.
    “I don’t see what’s wrong with giving health care to those in need. Employers would have more efficient employees and I wont have to be disgusted when I see some sick kid in the McDonald’s drive thru because they couldn’t see the doctors!” Sensico
    Really? You see a sick kid in the drive thru and you instantly jump to nationalized, single payer healthcare and government intrusion into the most private element of our lives? How about the fact that the kids at McDonalds? Heaven forbid we don’t hold parents accountable for at least feeding their kids something healthy! My kid gets to got to McDonalds, maybe, once or twice a month. Not once though did I ever sit back and say, you know, this requires a government anal probe to solve…

    Sensico: Gorilla, you are just having a field day with my comment aren’t you lol
    First, I’m not much of a sharer/giver but I don’t mind paying taxes. Just don’t expect to see me do much more since I do consider paying taxes charity work.
    And I do pay taxes, I believe I have implied that in several comments. I’d like to see your proof to back up your claim that I don’t.
    Obviously I don’t vote for any old GOPer on the ballot. But if I find a republican I like better then a democrat, I’ll vote for them. I actually don’t think its out of the ordinary for people to vote both parties on the ballots whether for school boards or councils.
    And though I may not agree with republicans, that doesn’t mean they aren’t doing a good job in the area of checks and balances. Even the White House would have to admit that.

  157. Thuggy responds to Fox

    That News Called Fox

    Recently, I’ve taken some hits for my War on Fox News. Some journalists have actually implied that I am acting childishly. I AM NOT BEING CHILDISH!!!!!!!!!!!

    That news called FOX!
    That news called FOX!
    I do not like that news called FOX!

    I cannot watch them on the air!
    I cannot watch them anywhere!

    Would I? Could I? On Sunday?
    I would not, could not on Sunday.
    I would not watch them any day!

    I do not like that man called Beck.
    I do not like when they fact check.

    Make them stop, Anita Dunn!
    Don’t you stop until we’ve won.
    As President I get to pick
    The news reporters in my clique!

    I do not like FOX on the air.
    I do not like FOX ANYWHERE!

    SO THERE! Childish… Harrummph!

    http://whitehouse.gov1.info/blog/blog_post/blog-foxnews.html

  158. RE:Ben you’ve earned a shot on the radio show tonight.
    That’s just terrific – flamed on the radio and not able to retort, right?

  159. you can call into the show, that’ll be fun to hear.

    Oh, and I know you don’t think I’m ugly Tex. I forgive you, I know you’re going through tough times between you and your man and you may not feel like you’re good enough or pretty enough. Let me tell you, you don’t let no man tear you down or break your spirit.

    Also, acting like Elric by constantly asking the same question over and over again will not get Elric to run back into your arms. You need to learn how to survive in the world without a man by your side.

  160. Collaborators in the Campus War against Israel and the Jews:

    Boston University historian and Professor Emeritus of Political Science Howard Zinn is the author of more than twenty books, most notably A People’s History of the United States (1980). Painting America as a nation whose chief contributions to humanity consist of repression, racism, imperialism, and genocide, this Marxist tract ranks among the best-selling history books of all time. A devoted admirer of Mao’s China (which he calls “the closest thing, in the long history of that ancient country, to a people’s government”) and Castro’s Cuba (which he says “had no bloody record of suppression”), Zinn takes a much darker view not only of America, but also of America’s closest ally in the Middle East, Israel.

    http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/21/collaborators-in-the-campus-war-against-israel-and-the-jews-howard-zinn/

  161. Department of Propaganda?
    posted at 10:12 am on October 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

    Maybe this is the Hope and Change we were promised. One official government website now includes a form to express support of Dear Leader President Obama’s effort to overhaul the American medical system, a clear violation of laws against executive-branch propaganda through public channels. Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) sent a letter demanding an explanation from HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, on whose website this form appears:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/21/department-of-propaganda/

  162. Leftist Students Shout Down Geert Wilders During Speech at Temple University….

    Amid a firestorm of contention, several hundred people heard Geert Wilders, a controversial Dutch parliamentarian, speak last night at Temple University.

    During his approximately 30-minute speech, Wilders called the Quran “an evil book” and said that the United States was facing Islamization.

    A question-and-answer session was cut short, and Wilders was escorted out of the lecture hall after some students began shouting insults at him.

    Before the speech, held in Anderson Hall, more than 50 protesters had denounced the appearance of Wilders at the school.

    Members of All Sides, an organization that seeks to promote peace between Israel and Palestinians, held pink pom-poms and shouted, “Hey Hey, HO, HO, this racist bull—-’s got to go.”

    Standing next to them with signs decrying Wilders’ views were members of the Student Senate, Democratic Socialists and the Feminist Majority Leadership Alliance.

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/10/leftist-students-shout-down-geert-wilders-during-speech-at-temple-university.html

    Good ‘ol tolerant left

  163. If you believe that every group has a right to exist, even though that group has designs to kill you, that group will indeed do just that.

    Their existence will be allowed to persist while those who have aided them will not.

    Said another way. Islam, enabled by liberal thinking and policies, will be the demise of Western civilization.

  164. Daffy Densico,

    Also, acting like Elric by constantly asking the same question over and over again will not get Elric to run back into your arms. You need to learn how to survive in the world without a man by your side.

    Have you ever heard the old cliche’ of I wouldn’t touch that nasty with a 10ft pole? Concerning you, make mine 20′. 😉

    But there is one thing you could certainly teach all of us that I most certainly agree with you. That is, how to survive in the world without a man by your side as you’ll have a lifetime of experience before it’s through.

  165. RE:A question-and-answer session was cut short, and Wilders was escorted out of the lecture hall after some students began shouting insults at him.

    I see Wilders as taking a lesson out of history’s Nazi-Germany. He is attempting to bring attention to and stand up against a rising radical and authoritarian political and religion based ideology.

    The pattern is already set; immigrate into a host country, accumulate a recognized mass, organize that mass, protest against preexisting policies, customs and beliefs which they see to be incompatible to theirs, threaten the lives of those who stand in the way of their advancement crying they are being persecuted and oppressed, demand Sharia Law, demand political representation, extend its population, encroach, rebel and overtake.

    It’s all a matter of time. Those who live in the now cant’ see.

  166. … and the left stand there like the Rodney King they are, drugged and drunk, getting the ever-lovin’ crap beat out of them be Islam and all they can do is ask “Can’t we get along?”

    If the left can not see Islam for what it is, I wish they would either join Islam or get out of the way so we can address it.

    As long as I can draw breath I will never see it as a religion. No religion I know of has leadership espousing and teaching death to non-believers. No religion I know of has a book which encourages beheading and amputation of non-believers.

    It is an ideology which nees to end.

  167. “It falls upon the Muslim leadership to tear out the hateful verses from the Quran. Muslims want you to make way for Islam, but Islam does not make way for you. The Government insists that you respect Islam but Islam has no repesct for you. Islam wants to rule, submit, and seeks to destroy our western civilization. In 1945, Nazism was defeated in Europe. In 1989, communism was defeated in Europe. Now, the islamic ideology must be defeated. Stop Islamisation. Defend freedom.” – Fitna

  168. Okay Rutherford, I’ll take your challenge. But let us make it worth our time. Place your bets and your link challenge will be conducted. What’s it worth to you Bro?

    LOL let me see if I get this straight … I provided my links for free but I’m supposed to pay you to supply yours? I don’t think so.

    Tex, seriously man, quit the med school thing and go the entrepreneur route. You are always trying to make a buck … might as well do it full time! 😉

  169. Ben,

    Its more a political system. And the left in general know. They just see a partner in bringing down the West. The left hate the West, Free markets, capitalism and Christianity so they need islam to help pull that off.

  170. But there is one thing you could certainly teach all of us that I most certainly agree with you. That is, how to survive in the world without a man by your side as you’ll have a lifetime of experience before it’s through.

    cute, but I always have a man but definitely know how to get by without one. Unlike you, you seem to be going the desperate route with yo man. As you seem to suggest in that comment, you don’t know how to survive without a man. I was trying to help you out, then again, I don’t have time to be your Dr. Phil.

  171. Why did Putin “fear” the defense shield of “old” technology if it doesn’t work?

    I don’t buy the premise of your question. I don’t think fear has anything to do with it. Why wouldn’t Putin disdain any type of militarization (defensive or offensive) in a neighboring country? It’s the same reaction we have to any kind of militarization in Cuba. Regardless of the effectiveness of the technology, it is viewed as antagonistic.

    Let’s not forget Putin is old time KGB … any steps we take of a military nature are viewed suspiciously by him.

    The only reason you’re persisting on this is you can’t admit you’re busted. This isn’t a defense of Obama …. Gates is fully behind the new approach.

    (Yes … I know Gates is a “tool” of Obama … he suddenly became a “tool” when Bush left office.)

  172. Poet,

    I’ve already got the links to slam you. I never make a bet I can’t win.

    The only reason you’re persisting on this is you can’t admit you’re busted. This isn’t a defense of Obama …. Gates is fully behind the new approach.

    😆 I don’t agree with the premise of your statement. I’m simply proving to the world you’re clueless outside the confines of regurgitating MSNBC. If you’re so sure, place your bet sport.

  173. Rutherford I’m unclear what your point is on the missile defense system:
    1. I agree the sea based system is a better one for the wars to come on the short term horizon. I also like naval assets since I’m a firm believer in the theories of Mahan.
    2. You don’t actually believe the u turn on the land based system was void of Obama blinking and best wishes for Russia ? Please don’t tell me you’re that naive. O was PUNKED
    3. The land based technology isn’t so 20th century. This is the point I’m really lost on. It is also very much proven technology as the Czech based system has been in service since 2000 with success and ongoing 21st century improvements.
    4. As for linkage try this one

    http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/html/mdalink.html

    I’m also lost in the woods on a post based point. Have we and by that I mean the taxpayers,charities,private citizens combined literally already poured tons of $$$ into N.O. ?
    I’m sorry but I think Obama probably realizes this and further realizes that NO is a by product of so much corruption and human waste he’s not falling for the old line which basically translates to Gimme Gimme.

  174. OK R, you’re going to have to explain this to me and how this somehow makes sense and falls within the premise of Dr. Kings criteria of character…

    …The letter, written by Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King, flatly asserts that the decision was made on the assumption that the town’s citizens use race as the primary consideration in voting.

    “In Kinston elections,” King wrote, “voters base their choice more on the race of a candidate rather than his or her political affiliation, and without either the appeal to party loyalty or the ability to vote a straight ticket, the limited remaining support from white voters for a black Democratic candidate will diminish even more.”

    The Justice Department analysis was based partly on the opinions of local officials in Kinston, the letter said.

    “Numerous elected municipal and county officials confirm the results of our statistical analysis,” she wrote, “that a majority of white Democrats support white Republicans over black Democrats in Kinston city elections. At the same time, they also acknowledged that a small group of white Democrats maintain strong party allegiance and vote along party lines, regardless of the race of the candidate.”… http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55818

  175. That’s just terrific – flamed on the radio and not able to retort, right?

    Hey, feel free to call in next week. BTW, don’t worry about flaming … 1) I didn’t flame and 2) Even if I did only my vast audience of about 2 live listeners heard it. 😉

  176. The UCC takes a lot of stands they would actually be hard pressed to defend using a Bible R. Not aware of any given story line you maybe holding on but…
    After my post I saw your response regards Putin. You’re wrong.

  177. cute, but I always have a man but definitely know how to get by without one [Read night stand…;)].“– Sensico

    How about your little slip up on the just-kidding-tax/charity bit- caught, red handed…

  178. a clear violation of laws against executive-branch propaganda through public channels

    You cannot be serious. So was every public speech Bush made about the Iraq war propaganda? Was that illegal?

    When Obama’s term(s) are up, whatever will you do with all the free time?

  179. That is, how to survive in the world without a man by your side as you’ll have a lifetime of experience before it’s through.

    Yeah, Tex, doing the dozens with a college student. Between the gum on the car and this, you just look more mature every day.

  180. Once again, Elric doesn’t completely read his links … click on the link within WZ, nimrod, and you’ll see his lawyer says he is still alive. As usual, WZ twists facts in its headlines.

    When a reliable media outlet says he’s dead, then you can “celebrate”.

  181. I agree the sea based system is a better one for the wars to come on the short term horizon.

    This is the point I was making. My understanding is the land based system is not fully deployed, won’t be for some time to come, and just becomes less cutting edge as the days go by.

    I clicked your link and saw references to sea based systems. Don’t mean to be dull, but could you provide a more specific link that supports Tex’s position? (Editor’s note: Really sad, Tex that Alfie has to do your work for you.)

    I’m sorry but I think Obama probably realizes this and further realizes that NO is a by product of so much corruption and human waste he’s not falling for the old line which basically translates to Gimme Gimme.

    That’s an interesting defense of Obama. If that is the case, then he would have been better off skipping NO altogether and just going off to SF for the multi-thousand dollar a plate banquet.

  182. Today, the U.N. proposed a radical reworking of counter-terrorism policies, insisting that the U.N.’s member nations “abandon the ‘war paradigm'” and “enshrine the principles of gender-equality and non-discrimination in the design and implementation of all counter-terrorism measures.”

    Among the proposals:

    • “Repeal all counter-terrorism measures” that sanction the ill-treatment of women and children as a way to put pressure on terror suspects within their families.

    • Loosen terror financing laws to ensure “safe and effective channels for funding … of organizations devoted to gender equality”

    • “Repeal restrictive immigration controls” that violate human rights by “unduly penalizing transgender persons whose personal appearance and data are subject to change” as their “self-defined gender identity” changes.

    Critics say the suggestions are part of an “absolutely insane” agenda at the U.N. that too often seems intent on undermining efforts to blot out terrorism across the globe.

    —————

    Apparently to be effective at counter-terrorism, we’re going to have to first “blot out” the U.N.

  183. Ben,

    First you have to get rid of the 5th columnists in our political system and schools. Hard to fire across the battlefield when you have some marxist or islamist sympathizer stabbing you in the back.

  184. OK R, you’re going to have to explain this to me …

    Sorry Gorilla you’re asking the wrong person. The notion that a white guy would vote for a black democrat but not vote for a black un-affiliated person, is possible but pretty much preposterous. If a white democrat in this NC town is truly a bigot, no party affiliation will make him vote for a black guy.

    Besides that, it is illegal to keep blacks from voting. It is not illegal for people to vote based solely on race. It’s a shame, but it’s not illegal. If a brotha can’t get elected in Kinston, maybe it’s time to move elsewhere.

  185. RE:Hard to fire across the battlefield when you have some marxist or islamist sympathizer stabbing you in the back.

    Exactly. Maybe the sympathizer will only stop sympathizing when the next domestic bombing takes out one of their own.

    I say “maybe” because the biggest thing the left has taught me; you should not believe they want to help you defend America.

    Bill Ayers, Bill Maher, Janeane Garofalo, Ward Churchill, Martin Sheen, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Dixie Chicks, and their ilk, all senators, including the R.I.N.O.s, who voted against the Iraq War, i.e. Daniel Akaka (D-HI), Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Robert Byrd (D-WV), Lincoln Chafee (R-RI), Kent Conrad (D-ND), Jon Corzine (D-NJ), Mark Dayton (D-MN), Richard Durbin (D-IL), Russell Feingold (D-WI), Robert Graham (D-FL), Daniel Inouye (D-HI), James Jeffords (I-VT), Edward Kennedy (D-MA), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Carl Levin (D-MI), Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Patty Murray (D-WA), Jack Reed (D-RI), Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), Debbie Stabenow (D-MI), Paul Wellstone (D-MN), Ron Wyden (D-OR), et. al.

  186. Ben,

    When we are attacked again, they will blame us and say we deserved it. The traitors in Congress are removing what little safeguards we have to ensure it happens. That way they can have their big crisis to take over what private industries we have left.

  187. R…All I’m saying is that link does have a number of things about the land based system. I had some stuff saved from them. I don’t have a link to the pages I’ve previously viewed,I’m firm in stating that the land based system isn’t without merit.
    And as for any support from me for Obama. Yeah I’ll say it. He’s getting the same shaft Bush got albeit a variant. I think New Orleans should be taken into receivership if it wants any more money for it clearly has squandered previous dole outs. Obama can’t even make face time there to let them know they’re not forgotten ?
    Fuck them they’re coming off as ungrateful and that’s toe to toe with the reality that they got screwed by mother nature and father bureaucracy back in the day. If I was living in the 9th ward back in the day I would’ve told Nagel to bite me,stolen a school bus (ya know the ones that drowned in their parking spots) and drove my crew inland. Sure when II got back I’d be like where’s the jobs,rebuild but I think I’d also be willing to go Robin Hood on the reality that there has/is obviously money there.

  188. In the summer of 2007, Lincoln Chafee (R-RI), left the Republican Party and became an independent. Chafee was a prominent supporter in Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential bid. On April 6, 2009, Chafee announced the formation of an exploratory committee for a possible run for governor of Rhode Island in 2010.

    It should underscore the need for a meaningful party oath. … one which has teeth in it.

  189. 1. In Spain, an actress told an overseas crowd, “It is an embarrassing time to be an American. It really is. It’s humiliating.” Who is this actress?

    Sandy Duncan
    Jessica Lange
    Kate Hudson
    Jane Fonda

    2. What singer told a crowd in London she was “ashamed that the President of the United States of America is from Texas”?

    Chrissie Hynde
    Cher
    Annie Lennox
    Natalie Maines

    3. Who told a crowd of New Yorkers: “The horrendous energy that we’re all feeling, and the possibility of turning it into more violence, and revenge, we can stop that. We can take that energy and … turn it into compassion, and to love, and to understanding.”

    Richard Gere
    Sean Penn
    Robert Altman
    Tim Robbins

    4. “I find George Bush and Dick Cheney frightening, Donald Rumsfeld and John Ashcroft frightening.” What major Democratic supporter and award-winning singer said this?

    Answer: ( Two words, or just surname)

    5. “If I were President, Howard Stern would get kicked out of the country — and Roman Polanski would be allowed back in!” What controversial singer said this quote?

    Answer: ( One Word)

    6. “Before our kids start coming home from Iraq in body bags and women and children start dying in Baghdad, I need to know, what did Iraq do to us?” Which Oscar-winning actress said this quote?

    Jane Fonda
    Susan Sarandon
    Whoopi Goldberg
    Kim Basinger

    7. This director called the President “fictitious” in his Oscar acceptance speech for his documentary “Bowling for Columbine.” Who was this director?

    Answer: ( Two words, or just surname)

    8. Which director said: “We should look to Castro as one of the Earth’s wisest people, one of the people we should consult.”?

    Oliver Stone
    Robert Altman
    Spike Lee
    Martin Scorcese

    9. “I know that’s a harsh thing to say, perhaps, but I believe that what happened in 2000 did as much damage to the pillars of democracy as terrorists did to the pillars of commerce in New York City.” The same actor who said this quote also claimed he would leave the United States if George W. Bush were President. Who is this actor?

    Answer: ( Two words, or just surname)

    10. “I don’t care. Charlton Heston is the head of the National Rifle Association; he deserves whatever anyone says about him.” Who said this?

    Danny Glover
    John Cusack
    Edward Norton
    George Clooney

  190. 1. Jessica Lange.
    2. Natalie Maines
    3. Richard Gere
    4. Barbara Streisand
    5. Madonna
    6. Susan Sarandon (she did not protest a Bill Clinton war)
    7. Michael Moore
    8. Oliver Stone
    9. Alec Baldwin
    10.George Clooney (Clooney even compared the Bush administration to the Sopranos. This comment was made in response to Heston having Alzheimer’s disease.)

    I wonder what Clooney would have to say about Obama’s administration being filled with cronies with the stench of Chicago politics, Mao followers, advocates of revolution, students of Castro, conspiracy theorists, those who believe in socialism and judges who legislate from the bench. Yea – he would probably applaud.

  191. Ben,

    A party has to have some sort of common beliefs. Why else have a political party if anyone is accepted. Insane.

    Thats why I am returning a RNC survey and telling them I will donate to specific candidates not to the toothless RNC. Its really odd. When we moved up here, I registered as an independent and my wife registered as a Republican but I get these letters from the RNC and not her.

  192. I say “maybe” because the biggest thing the left has taught me; you should not believe they want to help you defend America.

    I don’t know if you’ve been hanging with Elric too long or I gave you too much credit for common sense. You surely cannot believe this. So the left wants to die? Is that what you are suggesting? This is utter foolishness.

    Just because a group of people want to achieve an end by different means than you do does not mean they don’t want to reach the same end that you do.

  193. That way they can have their big crisis to take over what private industries we have left.

    I can hear the black helicopters now!

    See you guys later, I’m headed down to my bunker.

  194. US reversing itself on missile defense … again?
    posted at 2:15 pm on October 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

    In what has become a dizzying display of the diplomatic Hokey Pokey, the US has reached an agreement with Poland to install land-based missile interceptors. Vice President Joe Biden went to Poland to smooth ruffled feathers and apparently to execute a second reversal in the last six months from the Obama administration:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/21/us-reversing-itself-on-missile-defense-again/

    LOL

  195. Elric, maybe the RNC is trying to convert you? They obviously already have your wife on board.

    BTW, just curious, does your wife know you called yourself gay on your myspace page and does she think it is as funny as you seem to think? Inquisitive minds want to know.

  196. RE:You surely cannot believe this. So the left wants to die? Is that what you are suggesting? This is utter foolishness.

    Tell it to them. It it they who indulge in utter foolishness, not I.

    Bill Ayers, Bill Maher, Janeane Garofalo, Ward Churchill, Martin Sheen, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Dixie Chicks, and their ilk, all senators, including the R.I.N.O.s, who voted against the Iraq War, i.e. Daniel Akaka (D-HI), Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Robert Byrd (D-WV), Lincoln Chafee (R-RI), Kent Conrad (D-ND), Jon Corzine (D-NJ), Mark Dayton (D-MN), Richard Durbin (D-IL), Russell Feingold (D-WI), Robert Graham (D-FL), Daniel Inouye (D-HI), James Jeffords (I-VT), Edward Kennedy (D-MA), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Carl Levin (D-MI), Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Patty Murray (D-WA), Jack Reed (D-RI), Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), Debbie Stabenow (D-MI), Paul Wellstone (D-MN), Ron Wyden (D-OR), et. al.

    When you are faced with an enemy who states at every turn they want to kill you, to rape your wives and daughters unless you succumb, surrender and convert, it is extremely important to know who your friends are. It should be clearly understood that those among the list above and their ilk are no friends to be counted upon.

    There is no room for nonsense, no room for acquiescence, no room for appeasement.

    They are the fools. Either get serious or get out of the way.

  197. Leftist Crank Krugman Admits Dem’s Plan Will Result In Nationalized Health Care System
    Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:00 AM
    Jim Hoft

    Starting in April VerumSerum.com blog has uncovered many prominent advocates of health reform revealing the hidden agenda behind the public option. Most prominently Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) and Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), but also Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), and HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. Even Rahm Emanuel got into the act.

    Today at Big Government Verum Serum’s Morgen Richmond unveiled another leftist crank in support of the public option. Paul Krugman admitted in a speech last year that even without a public option the system would largely look like a single payer system based on the subsidies for lower wage earners, and the fact that everyone else is paying for these with taxes on top of their insurance premiums.

    Big Government has the audio.
    It should be clear to everyone by now that the democrat’s main goal is to swallow up the nation’s health care system.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/10/leftist-economic-guru-krugman-admits-dems-plan-will-move-us-towards-nationalized-system/

  198. RE:Careful you are being Alinskized now. Congrats 🙂

    I suppose I should have recognized that possibility when I read R’s response. Dang. Totally missed it as such.

    It would suggest then that R is reading from the book of Saul.

  199. Ben,

    Its what they do when they cant dispute facts. Just look down a thread and just see how he responds when he does. Typical leftist tactics. Densico is the same way.

  200. Maddow/Olbermann Invited to White House Chat with Obama, But Fox Isn’t a News Organization?
    By Chris Ariens on Oct 21, 2009 12:58 PM

    Here’s a curious turn in the White House vs. Fox News fight.

    On Monday, MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow were among several people who attended an off-the-record briefing with Pres. Obama at the White House. Sources tell us other attendees at the two-and-a-half hour chat included Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post, Maureen Dowd of the New York Times, Gwen Ifill of PBS and Gloria Borger of CNN. Perhaps not surprisingly, no one from Fox News was in the room.

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/maddowolbermann_invited_to_white_house_chat_with_obama_but_fox_isnt_a_news_organization_140839.asp

    I wonder if Thuggy patted them all on the heads like good little doggies.

  201. RE:Free Speech for some

    Did you notice the guy at the mic held by the woman and her disgust as he called Geert a few names?

    There there were those who left the assembly toting middle fingers.

    These responses to Geert’s warning that no Islamic state grants total freedom serves to makes his point, in that they would be happy to shut him down.

    The other point belongs to the idealistic youth with such malleable minds. It’s apparent they are not ready to fathom the depths of this problem, children that they are.

  202. What do Venezuela and America have in common?

    While Venezuela’s President Chavez has made moves to tighten government control over her national media, America’s President Obama has embarked upon a similar campaign, but one focused upon a single outlet – Fox News.

    Recently, MoveOn.org has launched a campaign to encourage Democrats to stay off Fox News. The MoveOn’s Noah T. Winer launched it with this posting on their site:

    http://ourobamanation.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/what-do-venzuela-and-america-have-in-common/

  203. Ben,

    How many of these leftists opposed that genocidal dwarf Immadinnerjacket? Oh wait, he wants to kill the Jews, nevermind.

    You would think at least the feminazis would have at least applauded Geert for standing up for the rights of women in islamic nations. Oh wait, the feminazis could care less about women’s rights, they are all about abortions.

  204. Hey, feel free to call in next week. BTW, don’t worry about flaming … 1) I didn’t flame and 2) Even if I did only my vast audience of about 2 live listeners heard it. 😉

    —————

    To recap, the woman in the video says: “I’m not gonna have to worry about putting gas in my car or paying my mortgage” and your interpretation is : “Obama will lower taxes and make it easier for her to pay her bills.”

    Is it Obama’s promise of redistribution of wealth which he made during his campaign that planted in the heads of many, including this woman, that they will be “taken care of” through social programs.

    Since his inauguration, we have had a taste of what he has in mind. We’ve seen the Cash-for-Clunkers program and other spending programs which are supposed to help the economy.
    (but they aren’t : http://ourobamanation.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/the-stimulus-didnt-work/).

    We have long heard Obama’s message about the potential of the success of little people being minimized and even oppressed by big bad business.

    The point to the above is that it is clear the message of moving money out of the Treasury and into the hands of us peasants has been firmly planted in the heads of most, including this lady.

    In fact, judging by the looming tax increases we’re staring at to pay for a bunch of social programs which will compromise America’s future and oppress us even more, I’m sure that lady has already received that rude slap in the face that she “ain’t gettin’ nothin'”.

    I wonder how excited she is now.

    So, with the many messages we heard from the campaign and the policies we’ve seen to support that message, your interpretation could not be what she actually meant.

    This guy speaks directly to the point.

    I yield the floor.

  205. Walt Whitman Rutherford,

    Really sad that somebody else is doing my work for me? Are you kidding you dolt? 😆

    Alfie is my bud, though he stealing some of my thunder as I wanted to take your money first. All I’m doing is holding my cards before I pull out the 20lbs. sledge hammer to smash your head like a tent stake. That feels as good as the 300 yard drive. All you feel is a “click”.

    You still haven’t answered my question about Vladimir…still waiting for that response from Olbermann about how to respond? 😉

  206. Damn,

    On Monday, MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow were among several people who attended an off-the-record briefing with Pres. Obama at the White House. Sources tell us other attendees at the two-and-a-half hour chat included Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post, Maureen Dowd of the New York Times, Gwen Ifill of PBS and Gloria Borger of CNN. Perhaps not surprisingly, no one from Fox News was in the room.

    What a room full of deviants, misfits, Obama ball lickers, various other dregs. Not a frickin’ room temperature IQ in the bunch.

  207. Elric,

    Though only other word that came to mind was high value target. 😉

    I mean with this room of sheep shaggers, it was like MaO Bama was attempting to make example of America’s worst nightmares and finest traitors. Throw Paul Krugman, Michael Moore and a few Dim Senators in there and you’d find more class in an Al-Qaeda training camp.

  208. “We gonna flip it around. We’re not gonna have to pay no bills”

    It’s a skit, but it serves to underline the message understood by the majority out there which was planted into the heads of those who believe in entitlements.

    Unless you can provide evidence to the contrary, you interpretation would appear to be in the minority.

  209. TEX. wasn’t looking to steal any thunder but that probably goes without saying. You’ve always been cool with me even when you have had a different view than mine. I especially remember your comments at Chens once when I posed an honest question/comment set and Kay went berserk.You took up some arms,much belated thanks.
    Also I would really like to see/hear the view on the Fox News v Obama WH from the R,Sensico,Curator triad. Anything on offer folks ?
    I see Tex,Ben and Elric and I have to say I don’t think this is a healthy thing for America. Such a blatant tactic from the POTUS or just his press sec. is shameful. I’d be really interested in the triads view. btw I realize Curator hasn’t been on this thread but a triad just sounds cooler and R deserves some coolness lol

  210. TEX. wasn’t looking to steal any thunder but that probably goes without saying. You’ve always been cool with me even when you have had a different view than mine. I especially remember your comments at Chens once when I posed an honest question/comment set and Kay went berserk.You took up some arms,much belated thanks

    what is this!? Oprah or something. If Alfie wants to let out his inner emotions then maybe he can send an email.

    I was gonna write a post about WH v. Fox News. In a way, it gives Fox News the power to say that the other news channels are loved by the WH and therefore might have bias in reporting. On the other hand, that really only works among the conservative base who already think that. This battle gives the WH something to be against and Obama is best when he has a person or organization he is up against that’s spreading smears about him.

    And, the guy at Fox News saying that this battle with the WH only boosts their ratings only gives the white house power to say they’re in it for the money and are apart of the rightwing establishment. Many people only watch FOX News for entertainment, lets face it, it’s fun to laugh at the losers. I think the WH has a bigger audience because, republicans mainly makeup 20-23% of America. Fox News campaigning for the tea party and crap like that only helps the WH’s case against Fox News.

    This battle could give Obama some steam and more passion but both the WH and Fox are preaching to an audience that already believes them.

    dude, the word triad doesn’t even sound cool enough to bring coolness to this blog. Only my presence seems to bring coolness and even then, it’s not enough lol
    Curator has his own blog, btw, Hippie Professor has been missing too.

  211. RE:spreading smears about him
    Please quantify the news organization spreading smears which implies a deliberate and knowing alteration of truth to make the president look either stupid, bad, disingenuous or otherwise.

  212. RE: republicans mainly makeup 20-23% of America.

    You have your numbers turned around.

    According to a set of Gallup polls done from January to May of 2009, 40% of people polled nationwide identified themselves as conservative, compared with only 21% as liberal.

    “This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004,” writes Lydia Saad concerning the nationwide poll.

    In a June poll, Gallup found that 39% of Americans say their political views have become more conservative since 2004, as compared to only 19% who say they have become more liberal.

  213. If we split hairs, as of Dec 2008, number of Americans that consider themselves Republican jumped to 34.2% and the number of Americans that consider themselves Democrats fell to 36.3%

  214. RE:What smears? Beck has a red phone. So far no one has used it to call Beck to correct any of the “smears”.

    Exactly.

    I also note that since the installation of that direct link to the WH and Anita Dunn, that phone has not rung once.

    Contrast that to the smear campaign the WH is engaging in to marginalize Fox News.

    http://ourobamanation.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/what-do-venzuela-and-america-have-in-common/

    I don’t care which side of the isle you’re from, you should be damned concern that we have a government as willing and able to get involved with how a news organization runs its business and to shut down free speech as this one does.

    Indeed we have a banana republic president taking a page from Venezuela’s Chavez dirty tricks book.

    Again, it’s “I don’t like the message so I will kill the messengers.”

    If anyone deserves marginalizing, it would be Obama.

    So, there we have it.

  215. I’m not going to get into another annoying battle over polls. btw, I wasn’t referring to conservative vs. liberal. Just go to my blog and I mention it there and I refute a similar suggestion by you, made by someone else in the comments section.

    Obvious republican v. democrat would produce different numbers. Though I generally equate conservative with republican, from an ideological context, there’s conservative democrats, I personally don’t think most the country would call themselves liberal.

  216. RE:GOP party ID is at around 20%,

    I don’t see where you able to dispute a thing and believe the Red Pill’s claim that the poll is skewed stands on firm ground.

    You should probably post more than 1 poll to illustrate that you understand poll results are directly related to the nature and construct of the polling questions which vary from poll to poll.

    In my argument above I make a distinction between conservatives/liberals and Reps/Dems.

    Someone said (was it here?) that polls are stupid, don’t prove a thing and are a waste of time.

  217. obviously, you didn’t read shit. Theres polls on the site I posted showing party ID of the GOP is around 20%. I dont have time to go through all the comments but I’m pretty sure I don’t remember saying polls are stupid. They have validity and purpose to some degree.

    Your argument makes no sense when looking at polls. Anyways, my turtles look like they’re trying to mate so I’ll be out for a while trying to prevent them from doing the do lol

  218. [Print] [Email]
    Obama hits opponents with Chicago brass knuckles
    By: Michael Barone
    Senior Political Analyst
    October 21, 2009
    (AP)

    “His father was a great friend of my father.” The reference to William Ayers’ father was how Mayor Richard J. Daley began his defense of Barack Obama for his association with the unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist. Daley’s father of course was Richard M. Daley, mayor of Chicago from 1955 until his death in 1976. Ayers’ father was head of Commonwealth Edison, the Chicago-based utility, from 1964 to 1980.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Obama-hits-opponents-with-Chicago-brass-knuckles-8415163-65077847.html

  219. I think Densico has finally found something she is not only completely qualified for, but should give serious thought to making a career: preventing turtles from mating.

    Perfect…

  220. I wish I could have prevented you from mating and passing your inadequate genes onto the the next generation.

    I know. But unlike you, my children are pretty, smart and you’re too late. 😉

    After looking at your pic, I can understand your affection for turtles.

  221. After looking at your pic, I can understand your affection for turtles.

    seeing as how I have more pictures of me on the web to prove my un-uglyness as you’re suggesting, I’m going to chalk that up to jealousy and lashing out. Ya know, you’re lashing out at the wrong person, ya need to be lashing out at Elric for ruining y’alls relationship. btw, why are you lashing out at my beauty all of the sudden, anyways? Don’t hate me cause I’m beautiful 😉

    Maybe you and Red Pill, can talk about my looks while you two are at the corner bar fantasizing about what’s in some old hag’s nightstand. Chew on those words 😛

  222. Elric,

    And to think Densi always had a love that we never expected. I must admit, she has taken me off guard with her love.

    Tommy the Turtle

    Something tells me the texture of the touch is about the same.

  223. I can’t believe I’m being ridiculed for have pet turtles. This is the most idiotic shit I’ve seen on this blog thus far. If R doesn’t start a separate page listing these dumbass comments then he’s not capitalizing on the goldmine of idiots on this blog, except me of course, I’m no idiot.

  224. Its nice though Densico has “come out of her shell” and shared her love of turtles. A shame she has come between the love of her turtles.

    😆 😆 😆

    I figure Densi is one of those snappin’ turtle types…

  225. Happy to see I was able to reunite you guys over your shared hatred of me. Am I invited to the wedding in Maine this year. My gift for Elric is a whip, leash and buttplug, my gift to Tex is collar and ankle straps. oh, and don’t forget to video tape it 😉

    OMG, R start a new thread, seriously this could go on forever lol

  226. Dens…

    Apparently you fail to recognize this isn’t just a love affair of Elric and Tex, but a shared family affair, as each of us who post here frequently in our own unique way find you comically ignorant, incredibly naive, and obviously young.

    You’re the bat girl who stepped out on to the field to play without ever catching a ball.

    But I am glad you found two turtles that are capable of loving you and you alone. Everyone deserves “true love” – and you obviously have found your calling: observing the mating of two turtles…

  227. Sensico, go ahead and comment all you want about what I actually say. But I have never made a comment on your appearance, so kindly keep my name out of that discussion.

  228. Contessa Brewer calls Rev. Jesse Jackson Al Sharpton!

    *** GUFFAW ***

    Did you see that frog faced maggot’s reaction to being called Rev. Al? Oh Elric, that one is a classic. I wished they had simply left out the balloons. The expression on the phony irreverent face was all that needed to make that funny!

    Thanks for the laugh!

  229. “Someone said (was it here?) that polls are stupid, don’t prove a thing and are a waste of time.”

    That was probably me. Or at least something to that effect.

    I don’t put an ounce of stock in polls, regardless of who is conducting them, or their findings.

    This country is much too diverse to be narrowed down to the opinions of 1000 random individuals.

  230. That’s cute Tex, how about you grow up.

    btw, I know u didn’t make comment on my appearance Pill, I just found the childishness similar. Before scanning the blog to see if your screen name was mentioned, how about you comment on the topic of the post.

    back on topic, completely agree that Fox News is operating as a radio show outlet, not a news organization.

  231. I do have one admission to make to the “progressive” persuasion this evening as I listen to Chuck Grassley talk about “is taxpayer money being used efficiently?”

    Moral platitudes aside, his acrimony is equally retching as an Obama speech from the Greek columns.

    There you go Rutherford…don’t ever say I wasn’t an equal opportunity “vomiter.”

  232. “Before scanning the blog to see if your screen name was mentioned, how about you comment on the topic of the post.”

    Are you the Topic Czar now?

    You are carrying on about buttplugs and gay sex and you’re going to tell me about staying on topic?

    “F-U you hypocrite!”

  233. Red,

    “F-U you hypocrite!”

    😆 😆 😆

    You’re dealing with somebody of the competence of “Valley Girl.” I am just waiting for Densico to “lash” out a gag me with a spoon screed. But I do admire your patience in trying to explain simple academics.

    This is what happens to libs when they are given the chance to perform. They always fail as they have no sense and apparently no useful purpose on earth, can only operate in criticism mode, and become unglued when you point out their abject failure in leadership and accomplishment.

    As Obama drops in the polls, it will only become worse and they will become more militant and radical in nature. I knew we were headed south when Rutherford starting throwing out accusations of “RACIST” 75 days into Obama’s reign.

    I probably owe everyone but Rutherford and Densico an apology as I’m the most guilty for baiting these two before they become completely unhinged, then the thread bounces off to parts of the Twilight Zone.

  234. Are you the Topic Czar now?

    depends how much R’s willing to pay me

    You are carrying on about buttplugs and gay sex and you’re going to tell me about staying on topic?

    lol, well Tex was talking about random shit, it was bound to become about fetishes and gay sex. He gives off the “vibe” that he’s into that.

    I’m never unhinged, that’s lame anyways. Who the hell gets angry behind a computer screen over what some idiot says online. I for enjoyed taking this thread to another topic and bringing Elric and Tex back together.

  235. RE:completely agree that Fox News is operating as a radio show outlet, not a news organization.

    News is news. Fox reports on the news.

    Having said that, Fox also has a commentary format which the competing stations also have. Obama’s beef is about the comments and opinions coming form these shows i.e. the 5pm and 9pm slots.

    Therefore, for Obama to make the claim Fox is not a news organization, by definition, he also includes MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, et. al.

    In other words, Obama is pretty much a cry baby and a dangerous one at that.

    While some may find it amusing, I contend that Obama is going down a slippery slope. He is breaking a bit of new ground by focusing upon negative opinion about the effectiveness of his policies.

    If you agree with Obama’s tact of marginalizing Fox News, then you have no moral ground to stand upon which allows you to complain when the next Republican president attempts to marginalize MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, et. al. simply because they disagree with opinion.

    Obama’s behavior is childish, but I suppose it is to be expected from an inexperienced, untested, under-qualified community organizer.

    Of a larger concern, if he cries foul over a little negative opinion and threatens to take his ball and go home like some school child, how will he behave when the going really gets tough with his failing foreign policies?

  236. First, an apology for coming back to the discussion so late. I had a professional dinner meeting last night and then spent some time on my latest post.

    Now:

    This guy speaks directly to the point.

    Ben I hope that Chris Future is not your alias cos the guy in the video is a butthead. First, how you take anyone seriously who is yelling at you under a glowing light bulb in his “bunker” is beyond me. But again, Chris misses the friggin point! Chris is one layoff away from foreclosure. He is an arrogant prick who thinks he can judge others. The fact that he is already, by his own admission, scrimping in order to pay bills means that a layoff will be devastating to him.

    He is no better than the fat cats on Wall Street who just took their bonuses one year after they sent our country into economic Armageddon. He is the “I’ve got mine and screw the rest of you” crowd. I stopped watching his vid half way through. He’s not worth my time.

  237. Also I would really like to see/hear the view on the Fox News v Obama WH

    Well, Alfie, I don’t want to chase it down but buried somewhere in this thread I did say something to the effect of:

    Obama vs Fox News: dumb, dumb, dumb.

    There are two schools of thought here. The first is you don’t fire down at an insignificant opponent … all you do is elevate them, That is my position. There is another school of thought that the whole feud is a deliberate attempt by the Obama white house to distract us from health care, while they actually get the job done. The MSM and many of the dolts who watch it, love the latest cat fight. By the time everyone gets their heads out of their collective asses, a reform bill will be all but passed.

    I still think in the balance it only serves to make Fox more exotic. Fox deserves to be ignored by anyone sane. The WH makes a mistake by shining a light on them.

  238. I also note that since the installation of that direct link to the WH and Anita Dunn, that phone has not rung once.

    You’re not serious are you? Direct link? The phone is a prop to prove a point. There is no direct link.

    Please don’t tell me you believe in Batman too?

  239. I don’t remember saying polls are stupid.

    Sensico once again you are taking heat for something I said … which was actually that we could do polls wars all night long.

    That of course is funny as hell based on the the article that follows this one, based on …. polls. LOL OK, I was inconsistent. Sue me.

  240. This is too much. I look in my inbasket and see a crapload of comments only to discover half of them are devoted to inane discussion of turtle love.

    Gotta love it.

  241. R- I guess it was too much to expect you would actually read the post and opt instead to watch the vids.

    Should have known.

    I win the discussion by default. 🙂

  242. Sensico, go ahead and comment all you want about what I actually say. But I have never made a comment on your appearance, so kindly keep my name out of that discussion.

    I’m obligated to say here that while Red Pill loses his cool now and then as we all do, he does maintain some modicum of class.

  243. “he does maintain some modicum of class” -R

    yeah I agree, to a certain degree, but him losing his cool is funny to me especially since recently on this blog he has taken to attacking on very stupid irrelevant things. So there you have it, and so what I brought him in the convo, sue me

  244. “I also note that since the installation of that direct link to the WH and Anita Dunn, that phone has not rung once.”

    And if were a prop, the White House would have called it out, which they havent.

  245. RE:Fox news = talk radio!

    And using the same definition, that would automatically include MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, et. al.

    Love it even better!!!

  246. I guess it was too much to expect you would actually read the post and opt instead to watch the vids.

    I read your comment in its entirety, as well as its rehash on your blog. When you use videos to illustrate your point, you can’t fault me for commenting on the videos.

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