For Those Who Want Specifics — Obama Video Address: July 11, 2009

As President Barack Obama’s polling numbers start to fall, it is clear that the country is growing impatient for positive results from the Recovery Act. One clear problem here is simply a matter of public relations. Obama seems to send two messages: 1. He is not happy with the current rate of progress and 2. he is confident that his strategy will reap benefits down the line. Neither of these approaches work with an audience who is thinking “what have you done for me lately?”

Perhaps someone is whispering in his ear because this week’s video address finally spells out some concrete successes and also puts the rate of recovery in a proper context. Obama needs to do more of this, not less. In summary:

  1. A two year plan is being judged as a failure after four months — unrealistic expectations — folks need to get real.
  2. The recovery act has already provided 43 billion dollars in tax relief.
  3. State deficits that would have doubled without the recovery act, have not done so.
  4. 3000 jobs were created in California for a solar plant.
  5. 2600 jobs will be created in Michigan manufacturing wind turbines.

Obama neglected to mention that the rate of job loss although disturbingly high is slowing. The number of jobs lost per month is less than it was six months ago.

While some of his opponents accuse him of spinning too positive (the most vocal of which say he is outright lying), I don’t think he is telling enough of a positive story. With a country hungry for the change they voted for in November, Obama must use every opportunity to present concrete and specific progress reports to the American people.

And now the President of the United States of America:

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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147 thoughts on “For Those Who Want Specifics — Obama Video Address: July 11, 2009

  1. Good luck with that.

    One problem is that the expectations were set very high. Unrealistically high, yes, but the administration does bear a measure of that responsibility. This is campaign rhetoric coming back to bite them.

    Points 2-5 are something to consider. I won’t argue the specifics at the moment.

    To be honest, when I hear the White House right now asserting that some number of hundreds of thousands of jobs have been “saved or created,” I do wonder how they figure that. To an extent, I wonder if they will cite that as long as that many people are employed.

    I’d like to see the WH making a specific case, as you begin, so that I could evaluate it on the merits. I think you’re right, the vagaries at this point aren’t going to be enough. They were enough during the campaign, when running against the trainwreck that was the Bush administration was all it took. Now, people want results.

    I remain very skeptical that any kind of a stimulus CAN work. I think that, at best, it will create another bubble which will burst even more catastrophically down the road. Sooner or later, we need to endure such a burst bubble and rebuild an economy on real money rather than credit. The sooner we do that, the less it will hurt.

  2. “I don’t think he is telling enough of a positive story.’

    Yeah, things are great. What is everyone bitching about? I mean, who cares about the future, anyways.

    Besides, everything is stellar here in Michigan. I can’t believe people are being such “Debbie Downers”. Leftist policy has been awesome here. And the stimulus might help us top out at 20% unemployment.

    Errrr…I forgot about cap and trade.

    You’re right, Obama needs to highlight all the great stuff that is going on. It be cool if maybe instead of a normal speech he did it in sort of a Broadway tune, including his entire cabinet. The Czars too.

    Who cares if 700 billion dollars are essentially unaccounted for. Birds and field mice are being protected. I’m so glad we took that the biggest loan in world history and gave it to the government for them to spend it for us.
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    I also want to point out how courageous Rutherford is for boarding a sinking ship. Looks like he is now in the business of accounting where the billions and billions and billions and billions have gone. Better get a pot of coffee going. Or make it in a hubcap like we do in Detroit now.

    Look dude, the stimulus was rushed. We were told 8%. We spent a lot. We haven’t even started bitching yet.

  3. Wickle, good to see you back although it’s funny that you made your return on this post and not the one that preceded it (which I thought would be of much greater interest to you).

    To Wickle and Rabbit, a rare confession:

    A few weeks ago I heard Joe Biden say that the jobs that HAD been saved or created was based on economic models. I almost lost my breakfast. Like every other American, I’m looking for real jobs saved or created, not some rehash of a statistical model.

    That’s why I say the more Obama presents concrete results, the more confident we all can feel.

  4. “I remain very skeptical that any kind of a stimulus CAN work. I think that, at best, it will create another bubble which will burst even more catastrophically down the road. Sooner or later, we need to endure such a burst bubble and rebuild an economy on real money rather than credit. The sooner we do that, the less it will hurt.”

    Wickle, I won’t bother linking it, (you could find it easily enough if you wanted to) but there is a recent post over at HotAir that talks about that very thing. It says that we are creating another bubble on loans and printed money instead of creating real capital. That capital comes from investments, and people aren’t investing because investers make money from profits, and profits are being turned into a bad thing these days.

    The article ventured on being over my head a bit, but you seem to be in tune with this, so you might find it interesting.

  5. I want some specifics on this anti human “science” czar.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/11/if-you-like-putting-sterilants-in-our-water-and-forcing-undesirables-to-have-abortions-have-we-got-a-science-czar-for-you/

    “They were enough during the campaign, when running against the trainwreck that was the Bush administration was all it took. ”

    Would you consider this administration a train wreck? I know you loath being harsh on marxist regimes but still…..

  6. Genie update. LOL

    “During the phone talks, they would describe themselves as kings of genies who recite Koranic verses, inject fear of Allah among their victims and pretend to know some of their family secrets,” he said.

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/07/bangladesh-dozens-of-koran-reciting-genies-arrested-for-swindling-people-out-of-money.html#comments

    Different country btw
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    Editor’s note:Unless the topic of the blog piece is about religion, I am only going to approve one Muslim related comment from Elric per piece going forward. Elric you’re more than welcome to comment on topic to your heart’s content and I will err on the side of “free exchange of ideas” where you are concerned but I will no longer allow every piece I write to be bombarded with anti-Muslim links. I know you can’t help yourself so I will post ONE of your anti-Muslim links per piece. If you simply MUST continue on your “crusade”, then post to the recent piece I wrote about religion. There your “awareness of the evils of Islam” links are at least on topic. I’ve really resisted exercising any sort of editorial control here but I think things are getting out of hand and hurting the experience of my other readers.

  7. “it’s funny that you made your return on this post and not the one that preceded it”

    To be honest, there were three things at work:

    – I’m running on 2-hour stretches of sleep, so I didn’t want to get too deep.

    – I have had far too many conversations about the concept of religion online that degenerate into each side just repeating itself over and over again … I don’t know if I’ve mentioned my “We don’t speak the same language” theory here before, but I got halfway through the post and decided that it applied.

    – There were already over 100 comments, and I didn’t have that kind of patience.

  8. I wasnt aware posting a news article about muslims being scammed by “genies” was “anti-muslim”. If you would care to elaborate I would love to hear it.

    BTW you would make a great spokesman for the OIC if you think its “anti-islam” 🙂

  9. Oh wait, Dems will specifically oppose a nomination based on race.

    No one expects otherwise. Well, maybe one man does. Miguel Estrada was nominated to the DC Appellate Court by George Bush in 2001, and got filibustered by Democrats in 2003. The reason for their opposition was explicitly racist, as this memo to Senator Dick Durbin in 2001 shows:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/13/sotomayor-day-1-hispanics-promise-lots-of-scrutiny-of-gop/

    I guess if you are a demomarxist, its ok to be racist.

  10. I want specifics on why the demomarxists are weakening our security.

    It was closed down based on the fact that Congressional Leaders were not told that it existed — or was planned to exist. Which makes the program a rogue program run at the discretion of the Vice-President.

    Elric just because you mistrust the Democrats doesn’t make it OK to violate the Constitution.

  11. I want specifics on why demomarxists love to play the race card.

    Actually it is Americans who play the race card more and more everyday, however these days the playing of these “cards” is highly justified.

    You can use the swim club in Philly as an example.

    Seems every time we read a newspaper or blog there is some GOPher like the new chairman of the “Young Republican” conversing on her Facebook page referring to President Obama as a “coon”.

    How about the leading conservative voice on the internet called FreeRepublic.com

    Here are the more recent comments from these fine upstanding conservatives.

    About Malia Obama: “A typical street whore.” “Wonder when she will get her first abortion.”
    About Family and Obama Entourage: “A bunch of ghetto thugs.” “Ghetto street trash.”
    About Michelle Obama: “To entertain her daughter, Michelle Obama loves to make monkey sounds.”

    How inclusive and Big Tenty of them. Why do you hear so much of the “race card” being played? It’s because this disease of racism is so evident everywhere you look.

    Anonymous online commenting arenas have become the white hoods of the 21st century. They’d never say these things with their faces showing, in line at Sam’s Club or at the local car wash, but hidden safely behind a screen name.

  12. “Elric just because you mistrust the Democrats doesn’t make it OK to violate the Constitution.”

    Thats funny, Dems saying it violates the Constitution. Where does the Constitution say the president can appoint numerous czars only answerable to him?

  13. Your rant actually didnt answer my question but thank you anyway Curator. And nice that you totally dodged the 2001 memo by the demomarxist leadership calling for torpedoing Estrada just because he is a Latino. Not that I expected anything less from you.

  14. WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The U.S. recorded a federal budget deficit of $94.3 billion in June, pushing the cumulative deficit so far this year to a record $1.08 trillion, the Treasury Department reported Monday.

    Outlays rose in June to $309.6 billion, while receipts climbed to $215.3 billion in the month.

    Among the outlays for June is $11.3 billion in Troubled Asset Relief Program funds, the bailout program for banks and U.S. automakers.

    At this time last year, the cumulative federal budget deficit was just $285.8 billion.

    The Obama administration expects a deficit of $1.84 trillion for the full fiscal year, which ends in September. However, that number is likely to be revised higher later this month, since the economy has been much weaker than when the original estimate was made.

    Can you feel the change yet Dodger and Curator?

  15. From what I know Estrada was not opposed on the basis of his ethnicity or qualifications, but on his ideology, which is an absolutely fair way to assess someone. No?

  16. Well if you read the Dem memo, it was about his ethnic background.

    “but on his ideology, which is an absolutely fair way to assess someone. No?”

    Well yes it is. But the Dems and their advocates are playing the race card.

  17. “Anonymous online commenting arenas have become the white hoods of the 21st century. They’d never say these things with their faces showing, in line at Sam’s Club or at the local car wash, but hidden safely behind a screen name.”-Curator

    You’re kind of arguing against yourself there. The fact that overt racists are pretty much only hidden online amongst youtube teenagers and such is pretty impressive considering 150 years ago I could have fricking bought Rutherford in the town square.

    Dude, there are probably internet forums devoted to solely being pooped on by big beautiful women too. Yeah that’s the ticket. Probably.

    The point is, internet chatter can only be taken so far as a reflection of where mainstream society is going.

    Young people are less racist. The country is less racist. Often times the card is played unfairly while at other times, people are in fact bigots. You’re claim of a trend seems pretty funny considering today’s youth and the fact a black guy is president of the United States.

    Please don’t start pulling an Elric and naming off racist shit that has gone down this week. I know, many people are racist. The important thing is many people are much less prone to be overt bigots and their kids less prone to be bigots at all.

    By the way, what the hell is FreeRepublic.com? Never heard of it.

    I have heard of Rev Wright though. But, in the big scheme of things, he is a relic of the past too.

  18. Please don’t start pulling an Elric and naming off racist shit that has gone down this week.

    I refuse to be silent.

    “Qui tacet consentit” (silence implies consent)

    So, we’ve had the GOP county leader gal who sent out the “Obama Bucks” watermelon-chicken food stamps, the Southern California suburban Republican mayor who sent out the hilarious White House-watermelon garden email, the Florida state committee-woman GOP gal who sent out that “So how did black people travel in airplanes to Obama’s inauguration when they couldn’t get out of New Orleans during Katrina?” email comedy, the Republican mayor in South Carolina forwarding his “just out of curiosity” musings about the Muslim Barack Obama being maybe a character in the Bible (the Devil, in fact), and the Republican mayor of some Georgia town typing a hilarious Facebook status message suggesting Barack Obama should give the Queen of England some typical black-person snacks such as cigarettes and malt liquor.

    Why, with a few more incidents, we may begin to see some kind of pattern emerging!

  19. Curator: “About Malia Obama: “A typical street whore.” “Wonder when she will get her first abortion.””

    That is terrible.

    It kind of reminds me of this comment (Comment #50) you made about Palin’s young daughter a couple weeks back.

    Even though Willow is 14, it’s only a matter of time before she meets her own Levi Johnson and pops out another little Palin bastard named Trick, Prigg, Moose or Comet.

    Notice how it works, everyone?

    Jokes about Malia Obama being a little slut are racist.
    Jokes about Willow Palin being a little slut are fair game.

  20. Wow it’s good to know that it’s only the GOP that has racists in it.

    Although I wasn’t aware Kleagle Byrd switched parties.

  21. Still dont want to talk about that Democrat leadership memo calling for the torpedoing of Estrada specifically because he is a Latino Curator?

  22. Curator,

    Do you honestly think the same kind of vile comments and attitude are not on the left?

    When I was in the service I decided to take a college class at Humboldt State university. This was 1992, the peak of grunge. I remember being so nervous. It sounds corny, but I had never really even been on a college campus before. I stuck out like a sore thumb and wondered if I was smart enough to be a “guest student”.

    So how was I welcomed? My name was put on a list plastered all over the halls. THIS MAN IS A POTENTIAL RAPIST.

    A leftist, feminist group had simply snatched up a list of some of the new male students. I was horrified.

    The point is, vile stereotyping is on both the left and the right. And while this crap sucks, the country as a whole has moved leaps and bounds away from this stuff, despite the terrible things you have pointed out.

    If you think I couldn’t go toe to toe with examples of vile sweeping generalizations from the left your kidding yourself. I live in the Detroit area, man. You have no idea the kinds of things that are said at just a business as usual city council meeting.

  23. Curator,

    Forget I even responded to you. There was no need. Red Pill pretty much successfully proved you to be quite the hypocritical joke.

  24. Red,

    Granted that comment about Palin’s kid was very hypocritical of me, but as for these that was only one out of four comments made by the rabid conservatives. Do you discount the others as not racist statements and just wish to cherry pick my poor attempt at debate?

    Here send this to your GOP friends.

    Dear Conservatives,

    For future reference, when caught sending racist picture emails/facebook/twitter/(choose one), the appropriate fake response is, “Oh, holy shit! I didn’t even THINK of it that way! I was thinking ‘[insert barely feasible explanation here]‘. Goddamn it, I’m such a complete idiot. I am really, really sorry – just forwarded it without thinking. Really, I’m so, so incredibly sorry.”

    That way, you still look like a racist, but a racist who is at least sorry.

    I’m sure all these GOPhers did not think what they did was racist because they were still laughing so hard at that NY Post cartoon of the cops shooting the monkey.

  25. lol…hilarious, the very leftist who is trying to claim the right is full of bigots is point blank quoted as a bigot, himself.

    He then claims he is being “cherry picked” while cherry picking other people.

    But, deep stuff Curator. I’ll answer the question for you. Yes, those guys are racist. Yes, there are bigots in the Republican party.

    There you go.

  26. Curator: We all know there are racist assholes in the world. And yeah, they are going to make racist jokes about our first black president, just as much as they will make jokes about our tenth black president. Just like they made jokes about Colin Powell and Condi Rice. Sure Obama gets more than they did, because he’s higher up the ladder. The nail head that sticks up the highest always gets hit hardest with the hammer.

    They are on both sides of the isle. We all know that. So why try and argue like it is GOP-heavy? If Obama were a Republican, do you think 1 bit of this would be different? I don’t.

  27. JERUSALEM – A small group of officials working mostly from the White House are tightly controlling U.S. foreign policy, bypassing other government agencies and making decisions without employing their expertise, according to diplomatic sources speaking to WND.

    The sources said some of the decisions may be jeopardizing U.S. security.

    A senior Middle East diplomatic source said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently apologized to a Mideast leader, explaining to him U.S. policy regarding his country is being dictated by the White House and not her agency.

    The diplomatic sources all confirmed Clinton has been largely cut out from the decision-making process, as have U.S. National Security Adviser James Jones and other top figures.

    The diplomatic sources identified the White House group largely controlling foreign policy as consisting of President Obama; White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel; top Obama adviser David Axelrod; and National Security Council Director Denis McDonough. Also, Mark Lippert, chief-of-staff of the National Security Council, is involved.
    A senior U.S. official referred to the group as a “politburo,” using the term for the executive committee of communist political parties.

    The source said the so-called politburo is making decisions that bypass other agencies.

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/07/source-obamas-politburo-which-includes-emanuel-and-axelrod-bypassing-top-foreign-policy-officials-in.html

    Gotta love change

  28. Why did the top leadership in the Dem party torpedo Estrada’s nomination because he was a Latino?

    They didn’t. It was because he was too conservative. Democrats at the time didn’t dispute Estrada’s qualifications, but argued he was too conservative for what many believe is the second-highest court.

  29. Second, yesterday’s meeting focused on identifying the most controversial and/or vulnerable judicial nominees, and a strategy for targeting them. The group singled out three — Jeffrey Sutton (6th Circuit); Priscilla Owen (5th Circuit); and Caroline Kuhl (9th Circuit) — as a potential nominee for a contentious hearing early next year, with an eye to voting him or her down in Committee. They also identified Miguel Estrada (D.C. Circuit) as especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment. They want to hold off Estrada as long as possible.

    Tell us more Curator.

  30. They are on both sides of the isle. We all know that. So why try and argue like it is GOP-heavy? If Obama were a Republican, do you think 1 bit of this would be different? I don’t.

    Sorry, I can’t think of any liberal Democrat calling the President a “coon”, can you? I also can’t think of any liberals sending out racist pictures of White House lawns covered in watermelon, can you think of any?

    I also didn’t hear of any Democrats discussing in an email that Michelle Obama talks like a monkey to her kids and has relatives in the gorilla exhibit at the zoo, did you here from any?

    I’ll readily admit that you can find racism anywhere, it is just far too easy to find it in conservative circles rather than liberal ones.

  31. Ohh and btw did you complain when libs compared Bush to a chimp? Was that racist? How about when Jackson or was it Sharpton said that Bush was killing blacks in New Orleans after Katrina.

  32. The more I read about this Estrada, the more I wonder why the Bush administration didn’t want to release his memos when he worked for the Solicitor General’s Office. Senator Leahy requested them due to Estrada thin paper trail. This was done for the Bork nomination and three other lower court nominees but DOJ won’t do it for Estrada.

    Why didn’t Estrada give his opinion on several specific and landmark cases that have dealt with controversial issues like the right to privacy and abortion. There was no body of record that Senators could refer to in trying to figure out what exactly Estrada’s views were.

    Isn’t it important to know where an appointed justice will stand, regardless of what side of the aisle they played on before being brought to the bench?

    I found this op-ed very eye opening.

    http://www.communityrights.org/Newsroom/OpedsLetters/ProJo2-27-03.asp


    Estrada is a 42-year-old lawyer in private practice. He has no judicial experience and thus no rulings or decisions. He does not appear to have published a word since law school. He has never taught a class and he has made few public comments on his legal views. His legal experience has been largely confined to the criminal area; he apparently has no experience in environmental law and has relatively little experience in the civil and administrative law cases that comprise most of the docket for the D.C. Circuit.

    Moreover, the Justice Department has refused to release any legal memoranda written by Estrada during his five years as a lawyer in the Solicitor General’s office, even though similar documents have been produced during the confirmation proceedings for prior nominees. And the administration has instructed its judicial nominees “not to discuss court rulings, past or present, unless they have already expressed a view about a case in writing before being nominated.”

    Given this sparse record and the troubling comment by his former supervisor in the Solicitor General’s office, Paul Bender, that Estrada is so “ideologically driven that he couldn’t be trusted to state the law in a fair, neutral way,” it’s not surprising that members of the Senate Judiciary Committee repeatedly asked Estrada about his judicial philosophy. They were repeatedly rebuffed, even on the most mundane matters.

    The difference party affiliation and ideology have made in D.C. Circuit decisions, coupled with the Bush administration’s eagerness to unravel environmental protection, should worry anyone who cares about public health and the environment. The Supreme Court hears less than one percent of the numerous cases in which review is sought. If Estrada is confirmed without being required to make his views and record clear, more troubling decisions than ever before could slip through.

  33. This is really frightening.

    We warned Americans Barack Obama is a Marxist who would govern through dangerous people. Obama’s new Czar, for “Green Jobs” Anthony “Van” Jones freely admits he’s a proud San Francisco Communist with an arrest record.

    Because the media has no integrity and works against us, except for Fox News, we have heard little or nothing about this. The amount of damage this confirmed member of Obama’s secret “cabinet” will do as “Green Czar” is frightening to the core. With his signature this radical unelected party apparatchik will be able to crush America’s economy to help Obama’s plans to destroy our country.

    Comrade Jones is Black and green on the outside but deeply red on the inside.

    The East Bay Express, an Oakland area Black on line magazine reported Comrade Czar Jones, the man who will put the final nail in our coffin, became a communist when he became enchanted with “these young radical people of color — I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, … I need to be a part of[them].”

    He met them in jail, how inspiring!

    Jones proudly says he spent the next ten years working with the people he met in jail in April, and “by August I was a Communist.”

    His website “Green for all” carries this telling quote from Comrade Jones on his new position, “… we’re going to be in an economic slowdown for a couple of years. So to take three months, four months, six months to spend this money the right way-we’re not going to get a chance to spend a trillion dollars again! Ever. So let’s do it the right way!”

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/07/obamas-green-czar-proudly-admits-hes-a-member-of-san-francisco-communist-organization.html#comments

    Change we can believe in comrades

  34. Palin on cap-and-trade: Job-killer
    posted at 10:11 am on July 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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    Sarah Palin takes on Barack Obama on his home turf, so to speak, by penning an op-ed in the Washington Post. On Sunday, Obama’s own Post column attempted to defend his stimulus package and plead for patience, promising that new jobs will arrive over the next two years. Two days later, Palin assails his cap-and-trade bill as a job killer that will wipe out many more jobs than Porkulus could ever create:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/14/palin-on-cap-and-trade-job-killer/

    With TOTUS in the hospital, thuggy had no comment.

  35. Still wont touch that he was targeted for being a Latino? Oh well. Your silence is an answer in itself.

    Read #18, thanks for playing.

  36. Curator: Of course liberals are not going to say that stuff about Obama—because he is a fellow liberal.

    As I said, do you think it would be any different if Obama were Republican? The only thing that would be different is the side doing it.

  37. “Read #18, thanks for playing.”

    LOL Is that how you when a argument? I posted the memo from top democrats that stated he was targeted because he was a Latino. Not good enough for ya?

    Thanks for playing

  38. Red,

    My point is Obama is our first black president, regardless of political party, and the only evidence of racism comes from conservatives right wingers.

    Maybe most Conservatives aren’t racists, but most racists seem to identify with the southern conservative GOP (Tennessee). This has been true since Dixiecrats left the Democratic party in droves in 1964 all because Johnson signed the Civil Right Act.

    If Obama would have been a Republican I think conservatives would have kept their mouth shut. Pure speculation on my part but I highly doubt we would have seen liberals stoop to such lows. Their base has always been minorities, unions, and environmentalist.

    Are Democrats pure? Of course not, but a racist is a racist and political party affiliation would not have stopped anybody from participating in what they believe in. Where are the recent examples of liberal Democrats calling the White House the “Black House” such as Diann Jones, a vice chairman of the Collin County Texas Republican Party who spoke about the “black house” where Obama is plotting against Americans, an email she sent to all the Republicans in “local Republican clubs”.

  39. LOL Is that how you when a argument? I posted the memo from top democrats that stated he was targeted because he was a Latino. Not good enough for ya?

    Why are you lying? The memo was not FROM top democrats. It was from a senate staffer TO only one top democrat who I think was Durbin.

    Tell me Elric…Why was so many Hispanic groups against Estrada’s nomination?

  40. “My point is Obama is our first black president, regardless of political party, and the only evidence of racism comes from conservatives right wingers.”

    Obama isnt black, he his biracial.

  41. “Why are you lying? The memo was not FROM top democrats. It was from a senate staffer TO only one top democrat who I think was Durbin.”

    So you are saying the memo came from a Senate staffer without that Senator’s knowledge?

    “Tell me Elric…Why was so many Hispanic groups against Estrada’s nomination?”

    If you mean racist groups like La Razza, well it would be more difficult to pursue their racist agenda if he made it to the Supreme Court.

    Because you know conservatives tend to look at people as individuals not groups.

  42. 1 Curator is clueless about old school, union-Irish Democrats. And I mean clueless. I’m telling you, the old “”union guard” of the northern Democratic party have some of the most racist people I have ever known. Many of them powerful people in high positions.

    2. Curator probably defines racism as something that only occurs against people of color. The bigotry towards white males, Christians, “red necks”, townies etc. is mostly found on the left but doesn’t add up to anything of merit. Hell, his own comments prove this. So while I agree that your common brand black hating Klansman is more prone to be conservative, I disagree what constitutes as bigotry as a whole.

  43. Sotomayor has done what I asked. Cleared the goofy statements up. Republicans lost the election, now it’s time to pay. Put her on, and move on.

  44. Well done Rabbit! I’ve been too distracted by paying work lately to delve as deep into the confirmation as I wanted to, but I hear Sessions made a real ass of himself and Lindsay Graham made a couple of real choice comments.I think in retrospect they’re both probably wishing Biden was still on the committee to ask one of his 15 minute questions. 🙂

  45. While we’re on the topic of Estrada and Obama and other folks of color, wouldn’t it have been damn interesting if Colin Powell had run for and won the White House? Libs would have to watch their words for fear of being accused of racism and Repub’s would have their man in the White House and couldn’t very well dis him on racial grounds.

    THAT’S what we need to finally put an end to racial controversy in this country … a Black Republican President! 😀

    Alan Keyes in 2012! 👿

  46. Curator is clueless about old school, union-Irish Democrats.

    While I hate to disagree with Curator, who always has my back in these matters, I must remind him that it was not long ago that we were involved in the Hillary vs Obama battle and a good number of racist Dem’s made Obama’s eventual victory seem uncertain at times.

    Rabbit is right that Pub’s hardly have a monopoly on racism. I think they just tend to look dumber in their expression of it. 😉

  47. Referring back to comment 55, I know how we can get old Alan in the White House. Have him run as VP on the Palin/Keyes ticket. Then when Sarah resigns the presidency after a year and a half, it will be President Keyes!

    Hey Elric, how’d you like that batsh*t crazy dude running the country?

  48. Obama isnt black, he his biracial.

    Elric, we’ve been down this road before. Three words:
    One
    Drop
    Rule

    This from former San Fran Mayor Willie Brown from his column in the Chronicle:

    Like the other day, when a little black kid who was with a group of students walked past the president at the White House.

    The kid, who couldn’t have been more than 7 years old, stopped and asked, “Mr. President, are you really black?”

    “Yes, I am,” the president said.

    “Is your hair like mine?” the kid asked.

    Believe it or not, Obama got down and had the little cat rub his head. The boy smiled, gave a thumbs-up and walked away.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/21/BA7I18AALI.DTL

  49. The source said the so-called politburo is making decisions that bypass other agencies.

    Elric, bypassing other agencies. Hmmmm yoiu’re strangely silent about former VP Cheney’s cloak and dagger activities. You know, I really want old W to enjoy the rest of his years in peace down there in Dallas but I’ll be at the front of the line cheering when they bust Cheney’s ass. And while I am at it, his daughter Liz pisses me off enough to almost forget about Sarah Palin.

  50. Jokes about Malia Obama being a little slut are racist.
    Jokes about Willow Palin being a little slut are fair game.

    Red Pill this provides an excellent opportunity to hammer home what I’ve said before. Please find me Obama’s outraged statement about the Malia-slut comment. Can’t find it can you? Because unlike Palin, Obama does not dignify such trash with commentary, he spares his kid further embarrassment AND he doesn’t need the political mileage so desperately to exploit his kid for it. Thank you.

  51. The fact that overt racists are pretty much only hidden online amongst youtube teenagers and such is pretty impressive considering 150 years ago I could have fricking bought Rutherford in the town square.

    Rabbit, I assure you that anyone who would’ve sold me to you for hard slave labor would have been violating “the lemon law.” 🙂

  52. I have heard of Rev Wright though. But, in the big scheme of things, he is a relic of the past too.

    With this I agree … and Rabbit you might recall that is the very message Obama communicated in his Philadelphia “race” speech during the campaign.

  53. Well, just because racists are in decline doesn’t mean the President of the United States should have had him on his campaign website as “spiritual adviser”, listen to the man on Sundays for 20 years and have the guy personally baptize his children.

    My fault, this is all a conspiracy cooked up by the Joooooos! (Elric esque, I admit)

    Come Rutherford, you don’t think a little baggage should come with that disturbing 20 year alliance?

  54. “Rabbit, I assure you that anyone who would’ve sold me to you for hard slave labor would have been violating “the lemon law.”

    I would have bought you and got all Tom Jefferson on that ass.

  55. “Red Pill this provides an excellent opportunity to hammer home what I’ve said before…. ”

    Rutherford, you are comparing a comment some anonymous idiot left on a blog to a comment by a nationally-televised comedian during his broadcast.

    When Barack Obama ignores Jimmy Kimmel cracking wise about Malia being a typical street whore, then we’ll talk.

  56. “Libs would have to watch their words for fear of being accused of racism and Repub’s would have their man in the White House and couldn’t very well dis him on racial grounds”

    Sorry but once Powell endorsed and voted for Thuggy, he relinquished all claims on being a Republican.

  57. “Elric, bypassing other agencies. Hmmmm yoiu’re strangely silent about former VP Cheney’s cloak and dagger activities. You know, I really want old W to enjoy the rest of his years in peace down there in Dallas but I’ll be at the front of the line cheering when they bust Cheney’s ass. And while I am at it, his daughter Liz pisses me off enough to almost forget about Sarah Palin.”

    Are you really comparing a program to assassinate jihadists to thuggy’s numerous czars and attempts to bypass Congress on numerous issues.

    You really do have a problem with conservative women, dont you?

  58. Obama isnt black, he his biracial.

    Elric, we’ve been down this road before. Three words:
    One
    Drop
    Rule

    I really dont give a damn about that racist rule Dodger. He is biracial and to deny his white heritage is racist. Though attending that racist church for 20 years its understandable why he would.

  59. You really do have a problem with conservative women, dont you?

    Now that you mention it, for the most part, I do. I have a problem with Republican women and minorities. Simple reason: they sign up for membership in a “club” that does not value them, a club whose platform is not in their best interests.

    I had a brief moment of joy (very brief) when Michael Steele was chosen to lead the RNC. Then I discovered he’s a horse’s ass and worse a bigoted horse’s ass, against his own people. His latest nugget of wisdom … he’ll lure blacks into the GOP with “fried chicken and potato salad”. Surprised he didn’t mention chitlins and watermelon while he was at it. Damn fool. But then he’d have to be in order to belong to a group that at its core does not care about him.

    Same thing goes for women,

  60. I really dont give a damn about that racist rule Dodger.

    ROTFLMAO … Well I assure you that Obama does care about it. If he walks into the wrong neighborhood and encounters a less than savory sort, he’ll be yelling “I’m a mulatto” all the way to the morgue. LOL

  61. Oh and here is a bit more information on Cheney’s “secret” program.

    Nice try Elric. A hit list is not the same as the formal program to utilize that hit list. The program is what is at issue and Cheney’s order to keep Congress in the dark is the bigger issue.

    It does not bother you in the least that a man elected to break ties in the Senate and wait for Pres to die, was basically running the show from a national security perspective? There can be no doubt, Dick Cheney was the most powerful VP we have ever had and it’s scary that the President himself never put him in check. In fact, it was only when W refused to pardon Scooter that he finally showed some backbone in dealing with Dick.

  62. Yeah…liberal policies have been so great for black people. Lets celebrate them.

    Take a time line chronicling the African American family structure and put it next to a time line of welfare and “progressive” liberal policies and you will see something that is no coincidence.

    Sad. Black people used to defy all odds and proudly keep up a strong family tradition throughout slavery and most of Jim Crow.

    Enter welfare, and it’s a diseased, emasculated culture.

    Look at Rutherford. I am willing to bet his success comes from family traits that are outside normal, present day African American cultural norms: An emphasis on education, an intact family with a male role model.

    Weird isn’t it? Fathers were fathers and black people didn’t kill one another back before the era of the urban reservation.

  63. Rutherford, you are comparing a comment some anonymous idiot left on a blog to a comment by a nationally-televised comedian during his broadcast.

    I was not aware of the origin of the Malia comment so I take your point. However I maintain, if Jimmy Kimmel did it, Obama still wouldn’t say a thing. (There would be countless others who would speak on Obama’s behalf.)

    And just to cover this ground one more time, I believe Letterman when he said he was making the joke about Bristol, not Willow, and on that basis Red Pill, though you hate to hear this, Malia has hardly gained the sexual “reputation” that Bristol has. Age difference? Of course. Could Malia wind up preggers some day? Of course. But for now, there is no comparing Malia Obama to Bristol Palin.

  64. Don’t get me wrong, the Republican party was no friend to blacks either and just counted on their Lincoln vote for far too long. But to even hint that liberal policies some how benefited black people is outrageous.

    What do you think the Nation of Islam exists? It’s a conservative, uniquely black answer to the Rutherford’s welfare state that has neutered black culture.

    Don’t take the Rabbit’s word for it, simply listen to the Nation (omitting the antisemitism and alien space ships of course).

  65. “Simple reason: they sign up for membership in a “club” that does not value them, a club whose platform is not in their best interests.”

    Like you would know.

    “It does not bother you in the least that a man elected to break ties in the Senate and wait for Pres to die, was basically running the show from a national security perspective?”

    No more than it bothers you that thuggy is appointing numerous czars and kissing up to our enemies and doing everything possible to weaken us.

    “ROTFLMAO … Well I assure you that Obama does care about it.”

    “I maintain, if Jimmy Kimmel did it, Obama still wouldn’t say a thing. (There would be countless others who would speak on Obama’s behalf.)”

    Of course he would. He would get his goons like Axelrod to dig into Kimmels records to dig up any dirt on him.

    Of course. He earned his racist views from Wright

    “Weird isn’t it? Fathers were fathers and black people didn’t kill one another back before the era of the urban reservation.”

    You can thank liberal policies. Hows it feel?

  66. “Obama still wouldn’t say a thing. (There would be countless others who would speak on Obama’s behalf.)”

    And the mainstream media would serve the same role for Palin?

    The people who would defend Palin are nobodies to you and your party. They are mocked and don’t have a voice. Dumb Christians, hick small towners.

    You guys mock the way they dress, what they eat, their hobbies. They certainly are not hosting NBC news and most definitely don’t have access to the MSM. When they finally do assemble, the MSM didn’t listan to what they said. No, hipsters like Rutherford call them “nut sacks” and racist fraggles.

    Palin has no choice but to be her own voice.

  67. Oh really?

    Mmmmm, Red Pill, Obama was asked about the attacks on his wife. He responded. I don’t recall Palin’s Letterman related protests starting with a question from the media, “hey Governor Palin, did you hear what Letterman said about your daughter?” But even so, I always maintained that Palin had the right to quickly, and relatively discretely condemn Letterman’s joke. Instead she made it a cause celebre and implied he was a pedophile.

    You do realize this is going to be one of those “let’s agree to disagree” points?

  68. This has trainwreck full of C 4 written all over it.

    Elric, for goodness sake, the damn chart was created by the GOP. If that were the Dem’s chart, I might cut you some slack but c’mon.

    I will give Weasel Zippers some credit though for coining a new term:
    assploding 🙂

  69. “Elric, for goodness sake, the damn chart was created by the GOP. If that were the Dem’s chart, I might cut you some slack but c’mon.”

    Right because its only legit if the Dems show how insane their plan is.

    So again, why do you want to force Medicare/Medicade on everyone when its broke as it is?

  70. A quote from one of thuggy’s czars

    But for a true outrage, consider new Czar of Science, John P. Holdren, who, in a stunning display of unabashed evil, has actively advocated “compulsory abortion”:

    There exists ample authority under which population growth could be regulated…It has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/enough_is_enough.html

    Make ya feel proud Dodger? You voted for and still support this “change”.

  71. Briefing Room)The President and CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce (NBCC) tore into Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) Thursday for what he said were “condescending” and “God awful” racial statements at a hearing.

    NBCC head Harry C. Alford took strong exception to Boxer having referenced an NAACP report favoring climate change legislation during a hearing of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, of which Boxer is the chairwoman.

    “Madam chair, that is condescending to me,” Alford said. “I’m the National Black Chamber of Commerce, and you’re trying to put up some other black group to pit against me.”

    Boxer defended including the report, however, saying the report reflects a “diversity” of support behind climate change legislation facing the Senate.

    “If this gentleman were here, he would be proud he’s being quoted,” Boxer said in defense of the NAACP support.

    Alford, however, struck back against Boxer, accusing her of “getting racial” in the climate change debate.

    “All that’s condescending, and I don’t like it. It’s racial. I take offense to it. As an African-American and a veteran of this country, I take offense to that,” he said. “You’re quoting some other black man — why don’t you quote some other Asian or some other… You’re getting racial here.”

    “You’re speaking on behalf of the black community?” Alford asked. “Why are you doing the colored people association’s study with the black Chamber of Commerce?”

    He finally concluded:

    “We’ve been looking at energy policy since 1996. And we are referring to the experts, regardless of their color. And for someone to tell me, an African-American, college-education veteran of the United States Army, that I must contend with some other “black group” and put aside everything else in here — This has NOTHING to do with the NAACP, and really has nothing to do with the National Black Chamber of Commerce. We’re talking about energy. And that — that road the chair went down, I think is God awful.”

    LOL They even play race with so called “climate change”. 🙂

  72. I am being consumed by Poison Ivy. It has completely taken over my upper torso now. It’s bubbling on my right arm, bubbling around my groin, all over my chest. This as gone from a minor nuisance to a major event. Fuck I itch so bad. I tried getting drunk and it just made me scratch more aggressively. Oh Sweet Jesus, the itch. Shit the doc is giving me seems to just chase it to a different part of my body. I got to go play a double header in softball and then I’m heading straight to the ER demanding a shot or something.

  73. Regarding comment 92, Rabbit, that comment actually got caught in my comment filter. I approved it assuming you’re among friends. If you don’t want your suffering to be documented here for posterity, just let me know and I’ll delete the comment.

    P.S. Hope you feel better dude.

  74. “That is why I have moved quickly to work with my economic team and leaders of both parties on an American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan that will immediately jumpstart job creation and long-term growth.” …

    ” There is no doubt that the cost of this plan will be considerable. It will certainly add to the budget deficit in the short-term. But equally certain are the consequences of doing too little or nothing at all, for that will lead to an even greater deficit of jobs, incomes, and confidence in our economy. It is true that we cannot depend on government alone to create jobs or long-term growth, but at this particular moment, only government can provide the short-term boost necessary to lift us from a recession this deep and severe.”

    President Obama on the eve of the now famous “Rushed Weekend”.

    Damn good link, this time Elric.

  75. Durbin: DC tops in abortion because its residents are black

    This is some really bizarre logic. Not sure why you posted this Elric but if you’re looking for me to defend Durbin, I have to disappoint you. Tying abortion rates to black populations makes no sense as far as justifying the practice. What is he saying? That if we don’t subsidize abortion in DC we are discriminating against blacks? That’s just plain crazy.

  76. Am I getting this right? This black business guy shows up and bitches about the Democrats’ energy policy. Senator Boxer, the most unlikeable person on Earth, tries to tell this black guy that he needs to get on the same page of other black folk, and suckle from the teet. Business guy gives a wtf! “I’m here to talk about energy, why do I care what other black people say?”

    I understand exactly what this guy is trying to say.

  77. In the past few days, President Barack Obama has told us that our economic crisis will become a catastrophe if we do not act NOW. I’m sorry but when a liberal strikes fear into the masses, it carries no more weight than when a conservative does so. There are good reasons why we should be in no rush to spend 800 billion dollars.

    Liberals want to spend money but there seems to be no clear consensus on when this infusion of money will result in economic improvement. To make matters worse, there is this sense that the recovery plan is a grand cathartic experience for liberal congressmen who have suffered under the suffocating watch of the Bush administration. Normally I tow a liberal line but I heard something earlier this week that really disturbed me. Arianna Huffington was on “Morning Joe” saying that the economic stimulus package was not going far enough. Do you know what she wanted in it? She wanted educational reforms to properly certify teachers. Excuse me? In what universe does that create more jobs or provide economic relief to anyone? The Huffington’s of this country want the stimulus package to solve all the nation’s problems. The result will be a big fat unmanageable bill that will be impossible to track and will get nothing done. It is this kind of over the top approach that caused the House Republican shut out earlier this week. You don’t reach across the aisle to Republicans by throwing every social program you’ve ever wanted into the recovery package.

    Sadly, conservative are no better. After eight years of wrecking our economy by betraying their conservative ideals, they are suddenly talking religion again. “No spending! We can’t buy ourselves out of this mess.” Their answer? Tax cuts. Will tax cuts get anyone employed? No. Will tax cuts stimulate buying? No. Will tax cuts allow the rich to keep more of their money? Absolutely. Yet again, the Republican party can’t see beyond corporate America and get into the heads of the common American citizen who is struggling right now.

    Several pundits have said, and I agree, that Obama should have been on top of this bill before it ever left the House. Obama and Rahm Emanuel should have been all over Speaker Nancy Pelosi to ensure that this bill was not a social program wet dream. They should have had a laser focus on putting in this bill primarily those elements that would create immediate relief and then secondarily those items that position us strategically. Instead, Obama appeared to have said, “I’ll let the Dem’s run with it and I’ll make nice on the Republicans in the hope they come on board.” He got a rude awakening when the GOP said, “thanks for lunch Mr. President. We’re still not voting for the bill.”

    The fate of our nation is now in the hands of the moderates. People like Democrat Claire McCaskill who admits the original bill in the House was weighted down with easy targets for the Conservatives, and Republican Olympia Snow who seems ready to say that tax cuts don’t solve everything.

    President Obama needs to work with moderates like this if our problems are going to be solved. Only moderates can be truly bi-partisan. Everyone else is an ideologue. The last thing the President wants is a year or two down the line for people to look back and say that Obama’s mushroom cloud was no more real than Bush’s and he rushed us into a bad deal that just made things worse.

    Respectfully,
    Rutherford Feb 08

  78. “Damn good link, this time Elric.”

    Thanks

    “Not sure why you posted this Elric but if you’re looking for me to defend Durbin, I have to disappoint you.”

    Not at all. Hate the guy since he compared our military to Nazis.

    DR,

    Didnt I tell this forum the Dems love to play racial politics and lo and behold, Boxer and Durbin support my accusation. 🙂

  79. Obama appointee wants to gag the Internet

    The Internet has served as the source of samizdat in the defense of the Free World against the global jihad. While the mainstream media moves in ever more craven lockstep, insistently retailing Islam-Is-Peace fantasies no matter how much the evidence mounts that there is a violent and supremacist imperative within Islam that must be addressed if it is ever going to be ended, one can still find the truth on the Internet, if one knows where to look. But if Obama and the OIC get their way, and I don’t see any reason why they won’t, this springtime won’t last much longer.

    Free Speech Death Watch Alert: “Gag the Internet!,” by Kyle Smith for the New York Post, July 11 (thanks to Paul):

    When it comes to the First Amendment, Team Obama believes in Global Chilling.

    Cass Sunstein, a Harvard Law professor who has been appointed to a shadowy post that will grant him powers that are merely mind-boggling, explicitly supports using the courts to impose a “chilling effect” on speech that might hurt someone’s feelings. He thinks that the bloggers have been rampaging out of control and that new laws need to be written to corral them.

    Advance copies of Sunstein’s new book, “On Rumors: How Falsehoods Spread, Why We Believe Them, What Can Be Done,” have gone out to reviewers ahead of its September publication date, but considering the prominence with which Sunstein is about to be endowed, his worrying views are fair game now. Sunstein is President Obama’s choice to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. It’s the bland titles that should scare you the most….

    Czar is too mild a world for what Sunstein is about to become. How about “regulator in chief”? How about “lawgiver”? He is Obama’s Obama.

    In “On Rumors,” Sunstein reviews how views get cemented in one camp even when people are presented with persuasive evidence to the contrary. He worries that we are headed for a future in which “people’s beliefs are a product of social networks working as echo chambers in which false rumors spread like wildfire.” That future, though, is already here, according to Sunstein. “We hardly need to imagine a world, however, in which people and institutions are being harmed by the rapid spread of damaging falsehoods via the Internet,” he writes. “We live in that world. What might be done to reduce the harm?”

    Sunstein questions the current libel standard – which requires proving “actual malice” against those who write about public figures, including celebrities. Mere “negligence” isn’t libelous, but Sunstein wonders, “Is it so important to provide breathing space for damaging falsehoods about entertainers?” Celeb rags, get ready to hire more lawyers….

    And not just the celeb rags.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/026941.php#respond

    Isnt the power of an Obama czar great Dodger? Thats ok, I know you wont comment on this either. I can imagine how difficult it is to be an Obama supporter but cant find anything substantial to defend in a way except in vague platitudes.

  80. Isnt the power of an Obama czar great Dodger?

    Now I didn’t read this too closely but I’m a bit surprised that this bothers you. This is just the kind of approach that will stop all that photo-shopping of Trig Palin. 😉

  81. In the past few days, President Barack Obama has told us that our economic crisis will become a catastrophe if we do not act NOW.

    LOL … somehow those words sound familiar. Has someone been combing through my archives? 🙂

    Hey, I said it then and I do stand by it. To the extent that the stim bill meets its intended purpose, I support it. To the extent that it tries to solve all the world’s problems, I’m against it.

    The big rush on health care is also something to be concerned about. Still I know why the rushing is going on … because there is a tendency in Washington (and in life in general) to procrastinate and then nothing gets done.

    But anyway DR, thanks for the quote. Nice to see someone is reading my old stuff. 🙂

  82. BTW, the funny thing about the post that Rabbit quoted is that it was one of my most popular ones (not by number of hits or number of comments but by the content of the comments). It is also noteworthy for being, I believe, Tex’s first visit here after he met me in the chamber.

    Anyway, nothing like not acting like a hairy-arm-pitted extremist liberal to get conservatives coming to your defense! That post was a rare instance. 🙂

  83. Hey, I said it then and I do stand by it. To the extent that the stim bill meets its intended purpose, I support it.-Rutherford

    That is why I have moved QUICKLY to work with my economic team and leaders of both parties on an American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan that will IMMEDIATELY JUMP START job creation and long-term growth.-Obama

    but at this particular moment, only government can provide the SHORT TERM BOOST necessary to LIFT US from a recession this deep and severe.”-Obama

    IMMEDIATELY JUMP START
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  84. This bill was sold to the American People as a lie. The proof is in the changing time frame, the changing acceptable unemployment numbers and, the lack of actual stimulus. 5 months later, Rutherford is desperately trying to spin this lie and, according to his own posts, lying himself.

    Rutherford was aghast over the tea parties. Yet, was this bill, one that we will be paying for two generations or more, sold to us as a fix 2 years down the road? Was that ever said? The unemployment is now higher then the projected unemployment IF WE DIDN’T GO WITH THE BILL.

    I suppose there is room for some economic debate over the role of this stimulus. (Although I would argue one would be on some laughably shaky ground defending it)

    However, I can not see how anyone could argue the American people weren’t manipulated on the eve of this bill.

  85. “Still I know why the rushing is going on … because there is a tendency in Washington (and in life in general) to procrastinate and then nothing gets done.”

    You don’t think it has anything to do with reports, like the recent CBO report, that says this is an unsustainable idea? Or the multiple polls that show public approval for the plan tanking day by day?

    We are being warned this is a bad idea. The public is beginning to believe this is a bad idea. So that sounds like a reason to Rahm through another BS plan before the public starts to influence their representatives.

    Remember, this is being put forth by the same folks who have done so well in putting their finger on the pulse of America’s economy.

    Then again, it looks like people are starting to remember that, which is why we hear the call for expediency.

  86. “Now I didn’t read this too closely but I’m a bit surprised that this bothers you. This is just the kind of approach that will stop all that photo-shopping of Trig Palin. ;-)”

    Of course I dont. These 30 plus czars bypass the Constitution, the voters, and Congress. I guess you do because you cant defend it and go off on some meaningless tangent as usual.

  87. DR,

    This gives a whole new meaning to the word CHANGE. Im beginning to think Dodger really loves thuggy and his band of fascist czars. I really thought their was hope for Dodger but he seems to be a drone like most who voted for the thug. Thankfully the so called independents are jumping ship in droves. They see thuggy for what he is. If thuggy’s little unelected shadow government doesnt give Dodger pause, nothing will.

  88. Here is a little piece on thuggy’s “science” czar. Pretty damn disturbing unless you are a drone and will support a thuggish, fascist leader no matter what.

    Progressives, Eugenics, Holdren and LGF
    Filed Under (Global Warming, Healthcare, LGF, Leftists, Liberal Fascism, Science) by Rodan
    July 16, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    John Holdren who is now a Science Czar co wrote a book calling for Eugenics. The idea that the Earth’s population must be controlled through forced sterilization is an old one. It dates to the Late 19th Early 20th Century Progressive movement. The Progressive movement which today is back with full force, spawned the ideologies of Fascism, Nazism, Communism and Socialism. In politics right now, the Progressives are the most powerful and best organized force.

    As you will see below the Progressives have been the driving force behind Eugenics.

    What is less well known is that eugenic thought deeply influenced the Progressive Era transformation of the state’s relationship to the American economy. Progressive Era economics, like the regulatory state it helped found, came of age at a time when biological approaches to social and economic reform were at their high-water mark. Reform-minded economists (and other social scientists) argued that the labor force should be rid of unfit workers–whom they labeled “unemployables,” “parasites,” and the “industrial residuum”–so as to uplift superior, deserving workers. Immigrants, blacks, and those deemed defective in character or intellect were regarded by leading labor legislation activists less as victims of industrial capitalism than as threats to the health and well-being of deserving workers and of society more generally. Mostly neglected by historians of American economics, these invidious distinctions crucially informed the labor and immigration reform that is the hallmark of the Progressive Era (Leonard 2003a). (2)

    http://www.littlegreenfootballs2.com/2009/07/16/progressives-eugenics-holdren-and-lgf/

    Feeling proud Dodger?

  89. More thuggery by thuggy

    PRESIDENT Obama promises that “if you like your health plan, you can keep it,” even after he reforms our health-care system. That’s untrue. The bills now before Congress would force you to switch to a managed-care plan with limits on your access to specialists and tests.

    Two main bills are being rushed through Congress with the goal of combining them into a finished product by August. Under either, a new government bureaucracy will select health plans that it considers in your best interest, and you will have to enroll in one of these “qualified plans.” If you now get your plan through work, your employer has a five-year “grace period” to switch you into a qualified plan. If you buy your own insurance, you’ll have less time.

    And as soon as anything changes in your contract — such as a change in copays or deductibles, which many insurers change every year — you’ll have to move into a qualified plan instead (House bill, p. 16-17).

    http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nypost.com%2Fseven%2F07172009%2Fpostopinion%2Fopedcolumnists%2Fos_broken_promises_179667.htm

    Can you feel the fascism Dodger?

  90. It sucks so bad. I busted my ass for 12 years without benefits so that I could get a job with awesome health insurance, just to have my own asshole government ruin it for me.

  91. DR,

    I am sorry about that. The good news is the majority of Americans dont want this National HealthCare scam. Bad news is thuggy doesnt give a damn, he will try to ram this through like the good fascist that he is.

  92. Rabbit, I can’t guarantee that you won’t have to make adjustments to your health insurance but the idea is for lots of other folks who don’t have any to finally have some. Quite frankly, as a self employed person with a meager income, I’m hoping the reforms might enable me to get some health insurance … and in my case not being rejected for “pre-conditions” is damn important.

  93. Funny, when I was without, and you were clocking three figures, I never came to you begging. Swear to God, it never crossed my mind.

    And I paid for years for my ER/ambulance rides. Never came to you Rutherford.

    Your house is twice the size of mine. Sell the damn thing, move into a reasonable sized house that’s not sucking our environment dry, and take the money you are now saving and buy fricking insurance.

    You see the slippery slope? Only in your world could I give such advice.

    What do you think Rutherford? 5 times the global foot print as Rabbit?

  94. “On this Elric you are again mistaken. Recent polls show 70% of Americans favor a public plan.”

    Which polls?

  95. You know what, I’m going to keep running with this. Why do you get such a big house? What right do you have to a fucking 3000 square foot house? A family of 3? I want to know. I bet it’s so spacious. Do the rooms echo? You obviously deem yourself more important then the Rabbit when it comes to allocation of our resources, so environmental concerns be damned.

    I demand an answer. Why do you get to have such big house? If you merely cut down to a measly 2000 square ft crib, do you realize the resources we now could redistribute so that someone can move out of a roach infested, section 8 trailer park?

    And, I’m talking about health issues. They could escape all the violence, the prostitution down the block, the cock roaches, the needles by the swings, stray bullets.

    Hell, just take your energy costs for 4 years and compare them to mine. That would be enough to buy a house for someone!

    I know what your going to say. “Rabbit, I may lose this house”.

    And what Rutherford? Move into a cramped apartment like the one the Rabbit lived in for a 9 years? Why would it be such a tribulation for you, but not me? Or anybody else?

  96. Well you know DR, libs are the biggest hyopcrits around. I mean come on, thuggy couldnt nominate anyone without tax problems. I thought paying taxes was the highest form of patriotism.

    Dodger is drone and he is hell bent on supporting this trainwreck no matter who gets hurt. And sadly, his kid will pay a steep price for what thuggy, the demomarxists and his unelected czars will do.

    And I could care less how big his house is, I just dont like the hypocrisy that comes with it. And dont worry, he will lose his house after thuggy is done.

  97. “I can’t guarantee that you won’t have to make adjustments to your health insurance” -R

    Odd. Because I did get a guarantee. By my own president!!!

    I was lied to.

    I demand Rutherford at least admit Obama straight up lied to me. He even ran negative campaign adds against McCain in which he promised, PROMISED, not to hurt my family.

    And lets be clear. This will hurt my family.

  98. Red Pill, here is an article that slices things a number of ways. While only a slim majority (52%) feel that a public plan is “necessary”, some 70% feel a public plan would be effective.

    Seven in ten (69%) feel that a public health insurance plan would make the overall of healthcare for them and their family at least as affordable as it is now, if not more so.

    So it is overly simplistic to say the public option does not have the support of the American people.

  99. I want a poll that asks “Do you trust a government that bankrupted Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid with your healthcare and the healthcare of your children?

    How would you answer that Dodger? Oh wait, you dont answer tough but reasonable questions. You are just a drone.

  100. Prediction.

    Rutherford is either yawning or chuckling over my response critiquing his disproportionate use of resources/energy compared to most of America.

    Yet, the Obama is saying that I also disproportional use resources (medical) compared to the rest of the country and I must be punished.

    How bombastic the Rabbit is. So dramatic.

    What Rutherford doesn’t understand is that when you review my income, my health benefits are the most valuable asset I own. The core of my salary.

    Too mess with my health benefits is akin to the government messing with Rutherford’s most valuable asset, his monstrous, energy, sucking house. (Yeah, I know, not the most lucrative investment at the time…but the quality of life sure must be sweet)

    Now, I’m sure there are many on this board that would dispute the very fact I have them at all. No doubt, collective bargaining reaped Blue Cross Blue Shield. But that’s a different conversation for a different day.

    I bet Rutherford has not given one iota of thought over how valuable my benefits are, when put in proportion with my salary. I bet Rutherford hasn’t given any thought that stealing my resources, my benefits, is a major tax on the Rabbit. It’s simple Math.

    Masters Degree. Certification. Student loans. Continuing education at my cost (6 credits every 3 years). As much schooling as a lawyer.

    40 grand a year and….the big “and”…..the massive “and”…BENEFITS!

    Oh, I forgot, Rutherford. They are “adjustments” when the slice of pie comes out of my ass. Would it be “adjustments” if it was out of yours?

    But no biggie, right Rutherford? I should share my benefits with you, so that your ass can stay comfortable in your mansion.

    These are the kind of arguments only leftist policy can flame.

  101. DR: Holy crap, I wish I could say that. It was 92 degrees at 9:00 this morning where I live.

    One question. Did I miss the post where Rutherford said he has a 3000 sq. ft. house?

    Rutherford: “So it is overly simplistic to say the public option does not have the support of the American people.”

    I think what your link shows is that it is overly simplistic to say that 70% of Americans “favor” a public plan. Saying something is as cheap or cheaper than something else is not saying you favor it.

    A Hyundai is cheaper than my car. Does my saying so mean I favor Hyundais to my car?

    Here are some alternative figures to that 70% claim we’ve been hearing for 3 weeks.

  102. Rutherford brought it up before.

    3000 square feet! That is massive.

    The funny thing about conservatives and liberals: If I had a 3000 square feet house I’d be bragging about it. Strangely, Rutherford as one and it somehow becomes ammunition against him.

    The house itself really isn’t the best example as he pays property taxes. I meant to stress that he is gobbling up limited resources maintaining the mansion.

  103. and that, too, wasn’t in English. Where is Tex? Dude used to piss me off. Now I get a strange sense of calm when he is here.

  104. Editor’s note:Someone posted a link to one odd friggin’ gay dating site (something about a gay beach) which for some odd reason has a cross post to this blog entry. In any case, I’m not approving the link posting and I’m praying the damn site didn’t drop a nasty virus on my computer. As for the poster … you know who you are. Thanks a lot. 😦

  105. OK,. about my 3,000 sq foot house: Anyone who bothers to read through the long threads on this blog will know that I have not been the least bit cagey about this overindulgence. I wanted to buy the biggest darn thing my money (and mostly the bank’s money) could afford. The bank was a damn fool for letting me do it. I was a damn fool for thinking I could handle it (see the chapter in my life titled “Arrogance about possibility of getting laid off”).

    Rabbit, if you think 3 in a 3K sq foot house is disgusting, think about the elderly empty-nesters across the street from me with the same foot print. It’s the American Dream man in all its vulgar excess.

    P.S. It’s amazing how a few throw rugs cut down on the echo. 😉

  106. Eww.

    To quickly change the subject, I downloaded your radio show, Rutherford. Listening to it this minute.

    In it you comment about California using its stimulus for projects that create jobs.

    Of course, there is absolutely no proof that those projects are creating any jobs. Or saving any, for that matter. But on to my point.

    Ironically, 1 of those projects runs right by my house. They are repaving about 13 miles of road that doesn’t need repaving. Some of it has even recently been laid down. So they will be repaving over fresh asphalt in those areas.

    Of course, none of that has to do with Obama, but it does show how much money is being wasted on some of these “shovel ready infrastructure projects” we keep hearing about.

    The worst part is that I have to see those damn propaganda signs every time I leave my house. I especially hate the one that says “Putting America to work” while we have 12.8% unemployment here. (Not as bas DR’s area, but bad none the less)

    Anyway, I am a glutton for punishment, so I will be a regular listener. 😉

  107. Anyway, I am a glutton for punishment, so I will be a regular listener

    LOL … thanks Red … you and about one other person. Anyway dude, “keep the faith!” 🙂

  108. CBO: House version of ObamaCare adds $239 billion to deficit
    posted at 9:54 am on July 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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    As if the White House hadn’t heard enough from Doug Elmendorf and the CBO this week. Their new analysis shows that the House version of ObamaCare not only is not deficit neutral, but the actual hit to the federal deficit for this program alone exceeds $239 billion over the next decade. Democrats immediately pledged to address it — by finding new ways to cook the books:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/18/cbo-house-version-of-obamacare-adds-239-billion-to-deficit/

  109. A nugget of truth here I guess. This is from an interview Obama did with Air America in November of 2004. Tell me this is not the epitome of hypocracy…
    BARACK OBAMA: …When you rush these budgets that are a foot high and nobody has any idea what’s in them and nobody has read them.

    RANDI RHODES: 14 pounds it was!

    BARACK OBAMA: Yeah. And it gets rushed through without any clear deliberation or debate then these kinds of things happen. And I think that this is in some ways what happened to the Patriot Act. I mean you remember that there was no real debate about that. It was so quick after 9/11 that it was introduced that people felt very intimidated by the administration.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2009/07/27/obama-2004-bush-rushed-legislationthrough-congress-without-allowing-ti

    His entire Administration seems to be based on rushing through massive amounts of legislation without anyone having the benefit of reading it. Stimulus, Omnibus, Cap & Trade and potentially Healthcare. Wow…

  110. “Now, does something like this concern you? Does me…”

    Of course, caught it the other day. But then, Im normal and expect people to read and understand a piece of legislation before they vote on it.

    Drones dont

  111. The problem with the government stimulus plan is that jobs created are temporary. For example, there is a program to weatherize homes. When the money is spent the jobs will disappear. Then another stimulus program will be required. Private companies “employ” people, while government “makes Jobs”. Making jobs today that will disappear in the future is like building a road to nowhere.

  112. SuperMegaStar, first welcome to the blog and glad you made the transition from the radio show.

    This point on the temporary nature of some of the jobs is valid and has been made elsewhere. Ultimately, the economy must be stimulated such that employers start hiring again.

    P.S. I took the liberty of copying some of our radio discussion into the blog (see my latest blog entry). You already have questions there waiting for you to answer. 🙂

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