What I Remember on Memorial Day

Usually this time of the week I post President Obama’s video address but since one was not produced this holiday weekend, I’ve come up with an alternative.

One of my commenters criticized me for not writing a blog entry about Memorial Day. It fit into his whole “Rutherford is an enemy sympathizer” theory. The following morning I heard an old song on the radio from the 1970’s which I thought quite appropriate for Memorial Day. You can find the lyrics on several places on the net but I pulled it appropriately enough from a site called “Scout Songs”.

One Tin Soldier

by Lambert-Potter, sung by Coven

Listen, children, to a story

That was written long ago,

‘Bout a kingdom on a mountain

And the valley-folk below.

On the mountain was a treasure

Buried deep beneath the stone,

And the valley-people swore

They’d have it for their very own.

Go ahead and hate your neighbor,

Go ahead and cheat a friend.

Do it in the name of Heaven,

You can justify it in the end.

There won’t be any trumpets blowing

Come the judgement day,

On the bloody morning after….

One tin soldier rides away.

So the people of the valley

Sent a message up the hill,

Asking for the buried treasure,

Tons of gold for which they’d kill.

Came an answer from the kingdom,

“With our brothers we will share

All the secrets of our mountain,

All the riches buried there.”

Go ahead and hate your neighbor,

Go ahead and cheat a friend.

Do it in the name of Heaven,

You can justify it in the end.

There won’t be any trumpets blowing

Come the judgement day,

On the bloody morning after….

One tin soldier rides away.

Now the valley cried with anger,

“Mount your horses! Draw your sword!”

And they killed the mountain-people,

So they won their just reward.

Now they stood beside the treasure,

On the mountain, dark and red.

Turned the stone and looked beneath it…

“Peace on Earth” was all it said.

Go ahead and hate your neighbor,

Go ahead and cheat a friend.

Do it in the name of Heaven,

You can justify it in the end.

There won’t be any trumpets blowing

Come the judgement day,

On the bloody morning after….

One tin soldier rides away.

via One Tin Soldier (The Legend of Billy Jack) Lyrics.

Clearly it is important to remember the bravery of countless men and women sent to fight wars fought with varying degrees of righteousness. However, I think it equally important that Memorial Day not be used to glorify war. It’s a good day to remember how truly fruitless most wars are. It’s a good day to renew our commitment to peaceful solutions to our differences.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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56 thoughts on “What I Remember on Memorial Day

  1. Ummm … wow …

    What scares me is that I spent a lot of time over the weekend humming that song. I’m guessing that you didn’t first hear it in the chapel of an Air Force base, but there we are …

  2. It’s a good day to remember how truly fruitless most wars are. It’s a good day to renew our commitment to peaceful solutions to our differences.

    I’d put it to you that any of the other 364 days would be best for that. Some days,some things deserve what they deserve.

  3. “Usually this time of the week I post President Obama’s video address but since one was not produced this holiday weekend.”

    He was too busy playing golf while North Korea tested nukes and threatened South Korea.

  4. Dang. In a totally unpolitcal response – you finally identified a song I had heard as a child 20+ years ago, and never knew the name.

    Strangely, the version I had learned by heart in the 5th grade had very different lyrics involving a prince and a princess and a happily ever after. I wonder if I could track those down… much less poignant, of course.

  5. “A coward is one who in a perilous emergency thinks with his legs.”

    Ironic, that “R” would pick lyrics from a song full of commune love, vision quests of Native American nature, and a utopian lifestyle long ago proven to be a dismal failure – now almost a joke.

    Yet the movie ironic in the fact that the ‘peace loving’ Billy Jack brutally kicks ass through the entire movie. This seems lost on its peace loving fans, apparently failing to recognize their ‘war’ won through brute force.

    Of course, most ironic is that “R” is stuck in the Billy Jack mentality of the Woodstock generation without recognizing that fact. He and his hero are rehashing failed ideas, long ago was shown to be not only a facade, but dangerous in its nature. A generation of lost souls who accomplished little or nothing of value, but left a legacy of amoral behavior, unwanted children, crime, and a drug craze now out of control, killing thousands daily.

    Tune in, turn on, drop out was their mantra…Quite a legacy “R”.

  6. What should he have done instead, Elric?

    What would you have Obama do in response to the events in N. Korea as they stand right now?

  7. 1) When have I ever defended the VAT?

    2) How is a sales tax, present in most states, thuggish?

    3) What does this have to do with the top post?

  8. Didn’t know Obama was a golfer. 🙂

    Elric since you are a very active contributor here and keeping up with your posts alone is a full time job, henceforth I will ignore silly attempts at comedy like this one (unless I think it’s a real knee-slapper). I will however try to address your attempts at honest intelligent debate.

  9. Hmmm….Obama inviting Iran to a game of soccer is comedy? I agree, but a tragic comedy.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-05/25/content_11433347.htm

    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1479721.php/Iran_agree_to_football_friendly_with_US_

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-05/25/content_11433347.htm

    BTW Still waiting for Obama’s GPA. You get his grades unsealed yet? If you have trouble, get a Chicago judge, they are great at unsealing people’s private records.

  10. To Wickle, Lily (hey welcome back!) and Tex: a very brief explanation of how this post evolved.

    Waaaay back in the 70’s I was indeed a fan of the movie Billy Jack (or at least I think that was the name of it). I had heard the movie’s theme song back then but really never listened to the lyrics. It was kinda in the category of “folk music” which I’ve only ever half-liked so I didn’t pay the song much attention.

    Fast forward some 30 years and I awake to 70’s music every morning and the streaming music feed I get from my cable company played One Tin Soldier several times in the course of a week. I said to myself if they’re gonna play this song ad-nauseam I might as well listen to the lyrics. I was struck by the “peace on earth” ending but then my wife told me I wasn’t listening carefully enough …. one side in the song is an aggressor against a peaceful cooperative opponent. So I learned the song had more depth than I had given it credit for.

    Speaking of “credit”, Tex you don’t give me nearly enough of it. Don’t you know that every liberal shill is good at information manipulation? The name of the song is actually One Tin Soldier (The Legend of Billy Jack). I unintentionally left the full title in the hyperlink reference but I deliberately removed the subtitle from the beginning of the song because I wanted my readers to take the lyrics on their own terms divorced from the film.

    You are absolutely right that the song does not fit the film. Justice in “Billy Jack” is won through some very serious violence. In fact, the hero kicks ass against the protests of the peaceful community he is protecting. I was hoping no one would make the connection but then again Tex, when I’ve got old-fogies like you on the blog, I should have known better. 🙂

  11. I forgot, you definition of “intellectual” debate is either ignore questions posed to you or dismiss them as silly or crazy.

    Got Obama’s GPA yet?

    Notice you also ignored a possible national sales tax to pay for government health care. I wonder why. I mean, Obama said he wouldnt raise taxes and he wouldnt lie, would he?

  12. You’re not banned. If you ever make a comment that’s on topic, answers other people’s questions, and approaches intellectual honesty, then you’ll get past moderation. You just don’t ever manage to do that.

    I read the tripe that you’ve tried to put in … it’s just that your comments don’t reach that level.

    Your attempt to call Pres. Obama a bully during a blog tour for a kids’ book, for example. THAT, by the way, is a display of bad manners.

  13. I’ve never seen the film. I first heard the song in context of, as I said, a concert in the base chapel. In that context, it happens to be a very Christian message.

  14. “You’re not banned. If you ever make a comment that’s on topic, answers other people’s questions, and approaches intellectual honesty, then you’ll get past moderation. You just don’t ever manage to do that.

    I read the tripe that you’ve tried to put in … it’s just that your comments don’t reach that level.

    Your attempt to call Pres. Obama a bully during a blog tour for a kids’ book, for example. THAT, by the way, is a display of bad manners.”

    Pretty convenient you can say this since none of the posts went through so you can say anything you like since their is no evidence to prove otherwise.

    Bad manners is selling out our kids and grandkids future. But its bad manners to insult the thug in chief.

  15. “R”,

    I was hoping no one would make the connection but then again Tex, when I’ve got old-fogies like you on the blog, I should have known better.

    HEY! That’s ass kickin old fogies like you Tex – Billy Jack style! 😉

    I actually rented this thing a few years ago for 99¢ (before NetFlix) because like you my old fogied twin, I was a fan about 35 years ago. You ought to do the same sometime Rutherford. If you are anything like me (you will never be as cool, of course), you will find your tastes have changed and you will end up laughing at how bad the acting is – catchy tune, though.

  16. Wow. Isn’t Rutherford edgy? He uses Memorial Day, of all days, as a platform against jingoism. An attention getter, to be sure. I

    Rutherford, would you have the balls to go with me to my American Legion post and give the same lecture on Memorial Day? How about at a military funeral? A purple heart ceremony?

    Memorial Day does not remotely glorify war. In fact, it does nothing but remind us of war’s cost.

    Hell, make your little point on July 4th, or something. But, you have no idea how somber Memorial Day.

    In other news, I have decided to believe you that 14% of all ex-cons commit murder. Considering the high black incarceration rate, stay tuned for an interesting post.

    I am going to make the argument that you, sir, need to be locked up in Gitmo. 🙂

  17. Did you agree with his decision to invite Iran to a soccer match?

    Also, depending on your answer, why or why not?

  18. “Did you agree with his decision to invite Iran to a soccer match?

    Also, depending on your answer, why or why not?”

    I dont think I agreed with any decision the thug has made while in office.

  19. Sports and such speaking US & Iran:

    The visit and cultural exchange emanated from President Bush’s 2006 call for expanded people-to-people exchanges with Iran. In response, the State Department’s Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs (ECA) has been including Iranians in a broad range of traditional educational, professional and cultural exchange programs for the first time since 1979. Over 160 Iranian artists, athletes and medical professionals have participated in exchange programs in the United States. Through its Sports United program, ECA has brought the Iranian national teams for water polo, weightlifting and men’s and women’s table tennis to the United States. The State Department also sent members of USA Wrestling to Iran to compete in the prestigious Takhti Cup in 2007.

    iranian national team played against various NBA D leagues last summer too.

  20. You sure love carrying water for the thug in chief dont you?

    Funny how you are more willing to mock Sarah Palin and Rush than the guy that will ruin your kinds and grandkids future. Make you feel proud Fray?

  21. I dont hate questions. Im not afraid in answering them unlike Rutherford who dodges everything I ask but for some reason you selectively ignore that.

    But as for who started in, yes Bush started it with a demomarxist majority house. I didnt hear them bitch about it and I surely didnt hear Obama raise a stink about it. And if Obama thought it a bad idea, why did he run with it and quadruple it and start nationalizing everything?

    Am I excusing Bush for starting it? No. But its Obama’s baby now and he is making it a whole hell of a lot worse and he isnt even done yet. We still have cap and trade and non voluntary health care to deal with.

    So quit playing the demomarxist blame Bush game.

  22. and a point to ignore or minimize what a disaster the thug in chief is and that you rush to defend him but love to take pot shots at ppl like Palin and Rush.

  23. Do any of Rutherford’s regulars hate this reply format like I do? Half the time, I have to backtrack to figure out who is answering what…

    “R”, not that my vote means a stinking thing on this blog (you would probably do it to spite me), but I like the old format.

  24. Well, I think that if we put it to a jury, most people will agree that since you STILL can’t answer any questions and STILL can’t bother to be remotely on-topic, my charge stands.

    Moreover, you can’t deny that I gave you ample warning.

    Good bye, Elric … I’ve wasted far more of my time on you than you deserve. Again.

  25. Tex it’s the stacking thing. If you don’t set it high enough the comments get jumbled worse than the old fashioned straight thread.

  26. So if you don’t agree with him inviting Iran to a soccer match, why would you suggest he invite North Korea to one?

  27. Elric, you might want to slow down and catch a clue about this time and realize that Alfie isn’t talking about the bailouts that Bush started and Obama continued, but about the basketball/soccer diplomacy that Bush started and Obama continued.

    Especially since you have advocated its continued use in addressing North Korea.

  28. Isn’t it curious how Fox News, that one conservative bastion of TV news has not lost any sleep over Obama’s GPA? Sorry but as far as I’m concerned, the folks preoccupied with Obama’s GPA are akin to the folks who say our government flew those planes into the WTC to spark a war with Iraq. They’re all in the nutjob faction of political debate.

    I don’t take for granted that his academic records are sealed just because fringe outlets say they are. Give me a solid MSM source that says the records are sealed and I STILL have an answer for you.

    That answer, if I were Obama, would be: “How dare you question my credentials when you haven’t questioned the academic credentials of my white predecessors. Screw you.”

  29. Oh please don’t mistake my having enjoyed the movie back in the 70’s for any nostalgia to see it again. All these years later I remember it as being a bit much … and quite frankly, as an adolescent, the major attraction of the film was seeing one of the peaceniks getting her bra cut off. Sorry to ruin the image, but back then my mind was not on politics. 🙂

  30. On comment stacking: Well Tex, you don’t get a huge argument from me. I’m not thrilled with it either. It’s only advantage is one doesn’t have to constantly resort to blockquotes to put a comment in context (i.e. threading makes it obvious which comment you’re replying to).

    As for Alfie’s suggestion, I think WordPress recommended that threads not be more than 3 levels deep so that is what I went with.

    Since no one has told me they LOVE discussion threads, and now three of you (Tex, Rabbit and Wickle) have said they pretty much despise it, I will disable it and keep my fingers crossed that doing so doesn’t wreak havoc with those discussions that have already been “threaded”.

    Wish me luck … and if this fails guys, I will be one pissed blogger and it will be your fault. 👿

  31. Elric, stop dodging questions.

    So if you don’t agree with him inviting Iran to a soccer match, why would you suggest he invite North Korea to one?

  32. “I guess you cant recognize mocking the thug and chief and sarcasm.”

    Which in turn means that you are dodging the initial question.

    So let me repeat it for you.

    What would you have Obama do in response to the events in N. Korea as they stand right now?

  33. “R”,

    You’re a mensch…or something like that. Since you’re such a good lib, I decided we need some humor and perhaps a demonstration of why public education might be struggling:

    NO PARENT LEFT BEHIND….

    Spellings have been left intact and provided by parents from the Memphis school district.

    1. My son is under a doctor’s care and should not take PE today. Please execute him.

    2. Please exkuce lisa for being absent she was sick and i had her shot.

    3. Dear school: please ecsc’s john being absent on jan. 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and also 33.

    4. Please excuse gloria from jim today. She is administrating.

    5. Please excuse roland from p.e for a few days. Yesterday he fell out of a tree and misplaced his hip.

    6. John has been absent because he had two teeth taken out of his face.

    7. Carlos was absent yesterday because he was playing football. He was hurt in the growing part.

    8. Megan could not come to school today because she has been bothered by very close veins.

    9. Chris will not be in school cus he has an acre in his side.

    10. Please excuse ray friday from school. He has very loose vowels.

    11. Please excuse Lesli from being absent yesterday. She had diahre dyrea direathe the shits.

    12. Please excuse tommy for being absent yesterday. He had diarrhea, and his boots leak.

    13. Irving was absent yesterday because he missed his bust.

    14. Please excuse jimmy for being. It was his father’s fault.

    15. I kept Billie home because she had to go Christmas shopping because i don’t know what size she wear.

    16.Please excuse jennifer for missing school yesterday. We forgot to get the sunday paper off the porch, and when we found it monday. We thought it was sunday.

    17. Sally won’t be in school a week from friday. We have to attend her funeral.

    18. My daughter was absent yesterday because she was tired. She spent a weekend with the marines.

    19. Please excuse Jason for being absent yesterday. He had a cold and could not breed well.

    20. Please excuse mary for being absent yesterday. She was in bed with gramps.

    21. Gloria was absent yesterday as she was having a gangover.

    22. Please excuse brenda. She has been sick and under the doctor

    23. Maryann was absent december 11-16, because she had a fever, sorethroat, headache and upset stomach. Her sister was also sick, fever an sore throat, her brother had a low grade fever and ached all over. I wasn’t the best either, sore throat and fever. There must be something going around, her father even got hot last night.

  34. Tex, Rutherford…..just wanted to point out that the Rabbit has absolutely no idea what you two Viagra-popping, potential prostate cancer in the poop shoot, middle aged, baby boomer has-beens are talking about.

    Seriously geezers, leave the pop culture to hip cats in their 30’s like the Rabbit.

    One of the Rabbit’s favorite past times is to watch you boomers dance. You’re the last generation to snap your fingers while cutting a rug. Nothing funnier then watching you tools scare off women in their 20’s on a wedding dance floor snapping your fingers to that KC and the Sunshine Band song. “Celebrate good times Come on! There is party over here…..”

    (Editors note: The Rabbit hates dancing and looks like a combination of a large droid and a North Korean Soldier.)

    What the hell movie are you talking about again? And why was the song so memorable?

  35. Nice, Tex … It’s tough to choose a favorite out of those. I’ve seen a couple before, but some of those are new. #16 is absolutely hysterical.

    Filed under “sad but funny.”

  36. Tex, Rutherford…..just wanted to point out that the Rabbit has absolutely no idea what you two Viagra-popping, potential prostate cancer in the poop shoot, middle aged, baby boomer has-beens are talking about.

    Seriously geezers, leave the pop culture to hip cats in their 30’s like the Rabbit.

    😆 Damn, my prostate constricted reading that one. But Brother Rabbit, I’m a rock and roller – I don’t do the jive turkey or disco scene. Now about dancing, I have to admit I’ve got white man’s disease. But in my younger day, I could jump like the black guys – just not dance like the black guys.

    I think I’m too inhibited and to be honest, dancing not only looked dumb, it felt awkward. I couldn’t drink enough to get comfortable as I never was a big drinker.

  37. In what has to be a very freaky moment …. as I write this comment, “Celebrate” has just come on the radio. Scary.

    Rabbit, I hate to ruin your cool quotient but “Celebrate” is not by KC and the Sunshine Band. It’s by Kool and the Gang. Difference? Kool and the Gang is a black band. KC and the Sunshine Band is lead by the blackest sounding white man in the history of popular music. 🙂

  38. Rabbit, speaking of viagra popping, you need to pop over to the Jihad thread where your own prodigious proportions were paid a tribute by me and Tex. 😉

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