My 2014 Predictions

Here are my predictions for 2014.

Good Samaritans will continue to selflessly help others without ulterior motives or agenda.

Psychotic young men will continue go out and kill as many people as possible in as short a time as possible and then most likely kill themselves.

Politicians will work toward noble goals regardless of ideology.

Men and women will pursue politics as a craven dash towards self promotion.

Children will be born and have a loving home with biological or adoptive parents.

Children will not get a chance to be born because their parents lacked the responsibility to do proper family planning and then lacked the courage to give that child the chance to find a loving home through adoption.

Employers will find creative ways to thrive and save the jobs of their employees whom they treat like family, like human beings.

Employers will lay people off with abandon pursuing the bottom line and pleasing the stockholders. Employees are just a “resource”, a cog in the wheel. Disposable.

Men and women of faith will follow the greatest teachings of their creed and will work toward the good of all people.

Men and women of faith will use their religion as an excuse to sow hatred, destruction and death.

I could go on but you get the picture. My prediction for 2014 is that nothing will change. Good will live alongside evil. One will win one day and one will win the next.

To my readers: may 2014 bring more happy tidings than sad. Thank you for taking a bit of time out of your life to read what I write. I truly appreciate it.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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346 thoughts on “My 2014 Predictions

  1. While the shooting rampage stuff will continue and it disgusts me to no end (and in one case gave me what I suspect was some sort of clinical depression) I do find it slightly disingenuous to frame that situation as the cyclical murder theme when we all know who is doing most of the killing and who is doing most of the dying.

  2. Rutherford, you went out on a limb on this one. :wink: Skating on thin ice where angels fear to tread, while dancing on the head of a needle and killing two birds with one stone.

    This is the first year I have actually made no New Year’s resolution(s). I figure why bother? I’ll never change anyway and I can’t think of one time I’ve ever kept them either.

    I like to think of it as a sign of maturity. My kid called it a sign of resignation about getting old and too cynical. :twisted:

  3. My resolution is to have a better attitude at work.

    Very few people love their job. It doesn’t mean they don’t do a good job. I happen to have a job that castrates my competitiveness. However, its sometimes rewarding if you have a good attitude…sometimes even fun.

    The important part is I get paid decently for a job that allows me to spend more time with my family in one summer them most men get their entire life.

    So what if I’m sick of being a Romanian dancing bear for a profession? My buddy is sick of getting burned at the steel mill.

    I’m going to shut up and play the game and concentrate on the massive upside.

    Sorry fellers. My resolution is to sell out.

  4. My resolution is to have a better attitude at work.

    Very few people love their job. It doesn’t mean they don’t do a good job. I happen to have a job that castrates my competitiveness. However, its sometimes rewarding if you have a good attitude…sometimes even fun.

    The important part is I get paid decently for a job that allows me to spend more time with my family in one summer them most men get their entire life.

    So what if I’m sick of being a Romanian dancing bear for a profession? My buddy is sick of getting burned at the steel mill.

    I’m going to shut up and play the game and concentrate on the massive upside.

    Sorry fellers. My resolution is to sell out.

  5. For those who might care I did not just accidentally out Rabbit. I’m not sure who the hell Richard Arum is but he’s not Rabbit.

    DR Occupy Narcissism was one thing but I don’t get the Richard Arum thing.

  6. I don’t know. I thought “Richard Arum” funny as hell.

    I did come up with a New Year’s resolution – no PC, no ‘N’ word, no homophobic taunts going to make this Cracker crumble.

    So pay special attention around the 2:30 mark – because this is my new choice of how to deal with the racialists. :smile:

  7. Tigre to answer your question from the previous thread I have mixed feelings about MSNBC’s racial attitudes. All of the hosts are not the same and I think their motivations vary.

    I don’t watch Al Sharpton. Even though he can put together a cogent sentence and I truly think he has tried to redeem himself, he has too much baggage for me and I find him embarrassing. Just cos you have name recognition doesn’t mean you should have a talk show.

    I think Chris Matthews suffers from the worst case of white guilt I’ve ever seen. I truly feel he carries the burden of slavery, Jim Crow, etc on his shoulders. I think he just wants to make things right.

    I’m not sure ANY discussion of race advances the ball anymore. I think the focus should be on poverty, which drives both whites and blacks into desperate behavior.

  8. Gorilla from the previous thread, you’re smarter than this. Truman left office with low approval and is now considered an above average President.

    You cannot predict how history will judge a president while in the midst of the storm. Even our most disgraced POTUS Nixon looks much better with time.

    Obama will probably be ranked mediocre at worst. Your “worst president ever” makes you look like a fool when we have James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson in the mix.

  9. I have mixed feelings about Snowden. He certainly sparked a necessary debate. Plus, I saw a dude on Face the Nation — I think his name was Drake — who went through all the proper channels to raise his concerns and got charged with espionage anyway.

    If I blew the whistle I might leave the country too.

  10. I have mixed feelings too. In my book he’s the most important whistle blower in American history. I just can’t understand why he had to release info about spying on other countries. Does anybody give a shit if we spied on Merkel? Behind the scenes all the allies know we all spy on one another. Those part of his releases have a wiki-leaks feel to them. I wished he wouldn’t have done this and see know point other to embarrass.

    Pfessor is correct. It’s baffling why America isn’t angrier. Scary, actually.

    I have bad news for you guys. Young people don’t give a shit about privacy. I think that is part of the problem.

    What is horrifying is that technological advancements are creating a situation where it will take unbelievable restraint for the government NOT to trample our liberty in every way. A police state is falling right into their lap. Yet, we have trusting guys like Rutherford fighting on their behalf for us to become more dependent on them.

    This is one time in history where we all need to be libertarians.

  11. Have you guys and gal been following the global warming scientific mission still stuck in the ice?

    A group of climate change scientists were rescued by helicopter Jan. 2, after being stranded in the ice since Christmas morning. But the majority of the broadcast networks’ reports about the ice-locked climate researchers never mentioned climate change.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mike-ciandella/2014/01/02/frozen-out-98-stories-ignore-ice-bound-ship-was-global-warming-missi

    I don’t want anyone to get hurt, but I got to admit I find the situation deliciously humorous. :twisted: Suckas…another set of rubes self identify.

  12. How many times does it have to be stated that climate change concerns encompass extreme and unusual changes in weather, not necessarily just warming. It’s also about climate trends, not the daily weather report.

    Anecdotally I am myself seeing extreme weather variations that I don’t remember seeing in my childhood. It was above 50 here last weekend. It is below 0 now and the high will be below 0 a couple of days from now. I personally find it unnerving regardless of the cause.

  13. I find it unnerving that every model has been blown yet the warmists cling to them. It is undisputed that we have been in a cooling trend for around a decade and despite this, only last year the lie of polar bears clinging to melting ice cubes while raising one bear finger at a time as the sank was being offered right here at the RL blog.

    I find it unnerving that the term “climate change” has replaced “global warming” to perpetuate the alarmists need to feed their cognitive dissonance.

    But I shouldn’t mock. It was not long ago that the Midwest was underwater and GA was suffering the worst droughts in its history. We were pouring ice cubes in urinals and passing the phrase “if it’s yellow let it mellow, if it’ brown flush it down” to help with the water conservation effort. Yep, the climate change gods were angry.

    Perhaps your anecdotal weather observations are all the result of Obama’s causing the seas to recede?

    .

  14. I like your list, Rutherford. Your predictions are safe enough to be true.

    I have been watching the news of the stranded global warmists ,but more importantly, the news media.s failure to mention their agenda. That area has had an expansion of ice for the past several years, and it is now summer there. One reporter mistakenly said it was winter,

    Their expedition honored ? Mawson, an Australian explorer and scientist who nearly died when he was stranded in Antarctica for a winter in 1912. They followed his route,and ice may be thicker now than it was then.

    It has been cold with warm spells since November, but we have had only seven inches of snow this season. Wednesday’s two inches of snow is the second heaviest storm of the winter. Last year, six inches fell on May 1.

    It was -13 last night and may reach freezing today with some of the coldest air since 1996 forecast to be here on Sunday and Monday. it was 60 degrees the day after Christmas.Extremes make the average.

  15. A Manitoba newspaper noted that temperatures in parts of Manitoba were colder than the high temperature measured by the Curiosity rover on Mars.

  16. R, I’ve tried to formulate a fair response to your 14 and find myself at a loss. I think it’s the product of evading the real point by explaining, excusing, then offering a non-concession — of sorts.

    Obviously, my question was an indictment of the motives and effect of the wretched MSNBC race bating that no one could credibly deny. As I said before, I find it neither insightful nor helpful to its pretend goal opening some kind dialogue on race.

    With all of its “dog whistle” bullshit, manufactured controversy, and outright misrepresentations (hell, editing audio and video to project something sinister and racist), it is clear that MSNBC’s agenda is to accuse, divide, and vilify the right, ironically implying that it is motivated by race and racism.

    It is the type of “discussion” offered by MSNBC and the PC crowd (if you want to call it that) that has no value — and in fact harms race relations. The white guilt you claim Mathew’s suffers from is the very objective. I think if you really cared about race relations and constructive dialogue it should be rejected. However, I think we all know it has nothing to do with race relations.

  17. Anecdotally I am myself seeing extreme weather variations that I don’t remember seeing in my childhood. It was above 50 here last weekend. It is below 0 now and the high will be below 0 a couple of days from now. I personally find it unnerving regardless of the cause.

    I think you’re memory is failing you. 1967 Green Bay, WI. The infamous Ice bowl between the Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys on the frozen tundra. But the week before, the weather far more mild than usual.

    In Oklahoma this year, not only have we seen few extremes, it’s almost completely normalized. The world saw fewer tornadoes and hurricanes than any time in recent memory – completely the opposite of what was forecast by the climatologists.

    But you’re missing the real point of the climate extremists and Lefty Chicken Little crowd, Rutherford.

    They think we are doing it and man is responsible. I’m not debating the changes in climate. That has been going on for eons. I’m mocking the fact these self-identified rubes are arrogant enough to believe they have the ability to not only predict the weather, but control the weather.

    As C.S. Lewis once said, “They can no more do that than they can blot out the sun…”

  18. Well, we are experiencing normal weather. Highs in the upper 60s to mid 70s, lows in the 40s at night. That’s why this place is a winter destination. I was out working in a tee shirt and was wishing I had put on shorts instead of jeans by yesterday afternoon. We generally get an influx of folks moving here after these extreme winters in other parts of the country.

    So, to add to your predictions, Rutherford…

    The earth will go through a cooling trend.

    The earth will go through a warming trend.

    It is a season of extremes, so we will likely break records in both directions.

  19. I find it unnerving a Harvard grad anecdotally seeS weather variations IN A PLACE THE DOOOOOOOSH NEVER LIVED BEFORE.

    I assure you the Midwest sees big swings like that all the time. While this is some cold shit…..its not the first time its been cold. It’s called arctic air.

    At the very least, the people who want to restrict liberty are moving the goal posts? No? That doesn’t bug you?

    Outside of the killing a baby in the womb….do you ever give liberty the benefit of the doubt and cast a skeptical eye on those who want to take liberty? Ever?

    Here Rutherford….(I had to do this for Hippieprof once too)….look at the records. Man….Your “anecdotal” variations are wrong. So…this is a start. Repeat…..your wrong.

    http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/daily/USIL0225

  20. I’m mocking the fact these self-identified rubes are arrogant enough to believe they have the ability to not only predict the weather, but control the weather.

    The air force has been working toward that end. I think they are there, but this paper allows them another decade to perfect it.

    I posted a video at the time showing definite microwave interjection into the storm system that landed on the Philippines amassing major devastation and great loss of life. This was performed shortly after announcing to the world that we have the technology to create and sustain a plasma cloud in the ionosphere.

    So yes, we CAN MANipulate™ the weather and have been for decades.

  21. Yeah sure Tex and DR, but it just feels different this time. :lol:

    Has anyone noticed all the strange bowl results? More anecdotal proof in my opinion. What other explanation could there be?

  22. Chris Hayes did a piece last night on the delight that non-science people took with the stranded scientists. I’d post it but you guys dismiss him out of hand.

    The labels, global warming, climate change, etc are silly to fight over. Those thumbing their noses at sincere scientists trying to get to the bottom of this reveal themselves to be ignoramuses.

    If you believe we are the stewards of the Earth then you need to step up. This should not be political.

  23. “If you believe we are the stewards of the Earth then you need to step up. This should not be political.”

    If you believe that you are a steward of the earth, you should step up and know something about the subject upon which you lecture others. You calling anyone here, anyone, a “non science” type is completely laughable. You know nothing other than how to repeat your MSNBC propaganda without one scintilla of knowledge concerning any of the science – pro, con or otherwise. So, you let me know when you want to get started on the science. I’ve held that offer out for years now.

    R, you must talking about this piece of complete stupidity:

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/msnbcs-chris-hayes-complains-of-drudge-fueled-snow-trolling-on-global-warming/article/2541532

    For the love of God, these poor, poor people on the verge of an icy death being mocked. . .

    Fuck. Turn that damn shit off!!!!!!! At some point it gets embarrassing to watch how easily whipped up and led around you are.

    Fuck man!

  24. R, were you in CT during the blizzard of 78?

    More importantly, have you left the house since then?

    What has changed in CT that you’ve observed?

  25. Rutherford what exactly are your climate change concerns? Does “something ain’t right” just about sum it up?

    Matthews needs a therapist not a microhone.Nothing short of 4 days a week on the couch for balloon head.

    And does anyone here know the exact nature of the major bug up Harry Belefonte’s ass?

    What external forces are working against blacks today? Racial profiling? What am I overlooking?

  26. Nothing stupid about it. These guys were doing legit research as far as I know and didn’t deserve to be targets.

    You know Tigre I might be more sympathetic of climate change skeptics if we didn’t live in an age of science skeptics. There is a significant population ready to dismiss evolution out of hand–ready to dismiss immunization out of hand. We are living in a backlash against science. We are living in an age where Rick Santorum says “the president wants everyone to go to college — what a snob!”

    Sorry Tigre this political “climate” makes me look askance at the deniers.

  27. I was 17 in 78 living on Long Island. Don’t remember the blizzard per se but I barely remember yesterday.

    Your point?

    Even in CT summers seemed to be getting progressively hotter and winters progressively colder.

  28. The Left is actually going to whine about people being made fun of for their beliefs?

    Am I reading that right?

    Seriously?…..

    The sad part is that they don’t even see how fucking hypocritical that is.

    Completely clueless….

  29. Rutherford,

    Good science is by definition rational skepticism, requiring a testing of data and proof. That’s why they call the testing the “null” hypothesis.

    Bad science is calling the hypothesis fact when the data doesn’t support the conclusions or before the findings conclusive within a specified normalized distribution, especially when there is an obvious conflict of interest concerning the funding of the projects.

    Remember back to your basic statistics classes and confidence intervals. These people don’t even pose their findings in the applicable scientific manner.

    MSNBC dumbshits that don’t know the first thing about science actually lend credence to the skeptics like me who believe this is completely agenda driven with ulterior motive – power and control, including nefarious jackboots like the EPA.

  30. @#43 – ahh. Now I understand.

    “There is a significant population ready to dismiss evolution out of hand”

    Untrue. What a significant population – something like a third of us – don’t believe in is the mischaracterization of one aspect of the theory of evolution (that humans evolved from apes). I’m pretty sure no one is disputing evolution – if so, point me to it.

    And yet you don’t worry about real stuff.

  31. “The Left is actually going to whine about people being made fun of for their beliefs?”

    Hah. Wish I’d said that.

  32. “What external forces are working against blacks today? Racial profiling? What am I overlooking?”

    Muffy surely you’re not saying racism is dead? Studies have shown that identical resumes, one with Leroy Jones on it and one with Bill Smith, Bill Smiths resume will be chosen.

    The biases are still out there. The question is what remains to be done about it? Have things gotten significantly better enough that we don’t need to change any more hearts and minds?

    Of course discrimination is not limited to race. The long term unemployed are passed over for jobs in favor of short term unemployed (and currently employed).

    Does this just go in the life isn’t fair bucket? Buck up and deal with it.

  33. Tex I fully agree that science without skepticism is bunk. So what do you think that Antarctic crew was doing? Masturbating? They were there conducting research. If they were interested in bunk they could have stayed home and pulled stuff out of their ass.

  34. “I’m pretty sure no one is disputing evolution – if so, point me to it.”

    I think it was Paul Braun in the House. He told a VERY receptive audience that evolution was straight from the pit of hell. He is on the science committee of the House.

    This is why you SHOULD watch a bit of MSNBC because without it you assume the best of a very dumb (and at times dangerous) bunch.

    Muffy some very stupid people are in charge on both sides. I just wish you could take the blinders off and see it on the right.

  35. I notice you all have been mum about the NYT piece that says central Al Qaeda had nothing to do with Benghazi and that the American video WAS a factor.

    That together with Laura Logan getting her ass handed to her on 60 Minutes ought to give you folks second thoughts about whether Darrell Issa was more interested in politics than justice.

  36. James I caught the reference to the urban legend about Obama wanting babies to die on the table. How can you repeat such nonsense with a straight face?

    At the time Obama said very clearly that he felt the legislation was redundant. Letting babies die was already illegal, not to mention prohibited by every medical licensing board in the country.

  37. More from #43 –

    “You know Tigre I might be more sympathetic of climate change skeptics if we didn’t live in an age of science skeptics.”

    “We are living in a backlash against science.”

    “Sorry Tigre this political “climate” makes me look askance at the deniers.”

    Maybe you wouldn’t be so troubled if you accepted that polls are imperfect and the questions flawed. This is certainly the case with the most recent ones I’ve found (Pew and Gallup) on the story of us.

    Be of good cheer – a significant polulation believe that “Creation” and “Science” go hand in hand. Surely you can live with that.

  38. I notice you all have been mum about the NYT piece that says central Al Qaeda had nothing to do with Benghazi and that the American video WAS a factor.

    Once again, rational skepticism. Consider the source…and the agenda.

    And yes – masturbating in the mental sense. It’s what liberals do throughout their lives. :neutral:

  39. “Be of good cheer – a significant polulation believe that “Creation” and “Science” go hand in hand. Surely you can live with that.”

    That’s fine with me. Some of our greatest scientists are religious. If they can reconcile the two (science and religion) who am I to argue?

  40. “And yes – masturbating in the mental sense. It’s what liberals do throughout their lives. :neutral:

    Well that’s some very expensive, not to mention life risking, masturbation.

  41. “Consider the source…and the agenda”

    Yup something I do with virtually every story coming from Fox, Limbaugh and Drudge.

    By the way, someone here, I forgot who, made a reference to the White House feeding stories to MSNBC. Where was the outrage when the Bush admin was doing the very same thing to Fox?

  42. “Muffy surely you’re not saying racism is dead? Studies have shown that identical resumes, one with Leroy Jones on it and one with Bill Smith, Bill Smiths resume will be chosen.

    The biases are still out there. The question is what remains to be done about it? Have things gotten significantly better enough that we don’t need to change any more hearts and minds?

    Of course discrimination is not limited to race. The long term unemployed are passed over for jobs in favor of short term unemployed (and currently employed).

    Does this just go in the life isn’t fair bucket? Buck up and deal with it.”

    It’s as dead as can be legislated and as dead as it can be until the life forms carrying around those prejudices fall over dead themselves.

    Rutherford the captive minds will die out if you let them. I realized recently what while a lot of us have been teaching our kids for at least one generation that we’re all equal – a whole lot of others have been teaching their kids that the white world hates them. And owes them. And every character flaw and weakness is justified.

    So I’ve got a message for old Harry Day-O. White people are not your problem Harry.

    Harry is a perfect example of why my most admired public faces of all are black and conservative.

  43. It’s so obvious the days Rutherford gets to catch up on MSNBC viewing.

    He’s a little sprite on those days.

  44. “At the time Obama said very clearly that he felt the legislation was redundant. Letting babies die was already illegal, not to mention prohibited by every medical licensing board in the country.”

    Pre-Gosnell I would have agreed with you but had misgivings that there was more to this than meets the eye – I just didn’t know what.

    Now I do.

    Gosnell’s defense in part to killing living human beings was that they were not alive. He also disputed the gestational age of the aborted. In the opinion of this doctor – the only one in the room by design – he committed no crime.

  45. @#53 – OK R I read what Braun said (in church). He sounds like an extremist. Is he dangerous? In a word – yes. As dangerous as every other extremist in the House and Senate and the White House.

    What you and I regard as the middle is miles apart. Surely you can see how far from Braun the rest of us on the right are. What I can’t see and you can’t show me is how far from the extreme left you and the president are.

  46. Rutherford I found the NYT piece to consist of some actual journalism,something sadly lacking in the US media. That said I find your comment shallow with regards the “that the American video WAS a factor.”
    I find the US story lines on Benghazi to be a spectrum mix of pathetic to disgusting. For example many elected GOP’ers assume AQ in any matter where they see a black flag with Arabic script on it. FWIW these jihad flags were indeed present in Libya and Egypt. On the other side the continued attempts to put the video as the sole or primary antagonist is equally laughable. It gets worse when folks insist on viewing the video story line as the genesis of spontaneous acts. Kirkpatrick himself hints at there being ongoing planning in Libya but unfortunately people take his body of work and isolate two or three lines out of context for their agendas.
    Bottom line Libya was what it was at the time. It is also to be noted that it was not only US assets attacked nor was the violence isolated to Libya. For example Khartoum Sudan saw extensive unrest including the torching of the German consulate.
    Bottom bottom line is that Kirkpatrick is really lays one big truth on us that we still don’t want to hear. America overestimates its power and standing in almost every corner of the globe. This is why we left Stevens there sitting “soft”.

  47. “What I can’t see and you can’t show me is how far from the extreme left you and the president are.”

    We’ve been down this road before. Please explain how his “biggest legislative accomplishment”, a smoochy wet kiss to the insurance industry, makes Obama a left wing extremist?

    Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders, a self described socialist, make Barack Obama look like a Republican.

  48. Alfie I completely agree with you. The author himself has said in subsequent interviews Susan Rice was not completely accurate. But he also debunks this notion that she was going out of her way to deceive.

    Mistakes were made in Benghazi from a security POV. The question is was there any grand conspiracy going on? Is Issa interested in finding the truth or simply collecting liberal scalps?

  49. “I notice you all have been mum about the NYT piece that says central Al Qaeda had nothing to do with Benghazi and that the American video WAS a factor.”

    I notice you still don’t understand the difference between “central Al Qaeda” and an Al Qaeda affiliate group.

    I also notice you failing to mention that there was no protest in Benghazi.

    I also notice you failing to understand the difference between a “factor” and a “cause.”

    I also notice you forgetting we were told “because of” not “influenced by”

    Shall I continue?

  50. “But he also debunks this notion that she was going out of her way to deceive.”

    Then why did Hillary refuse?

    She didn’t “go out of her way to deceive” she was told to deceive by her boss. She’s a diplomat and she did what diplomats do….act as a mouthpiece for a government position. Cut the bullshit, man.

  51. Susan Rice recently answered this question reasonably. Hillary was dealing with dead employees which took precedence over doing a media round robin.

    The better question for me is why Rice? Isn’t there a deputy sec of state or something?

  52. R@#66 – I attribute his failure to achieve single-payer more to his failure as a leader and a negotiator than his ideology. Do we agree that single payer was and remains his goal and the goal of the party?

    Actually I think Obama’s pie in the sky dream is socialized medicine but he doesn’t come out and say that either. Maybe I’m wrong – what do you think?

    Now then.

    How is Liz Warren demonstrably to the left of Obama? What policies, theories, agenda, beliefs, motives, goals, or rhetoric distinguishes them in any meaningful way?

    Not playing games with you R. I think you’re talking shit when you say that Obama isn’t an extreme left winger, and in fact I’ve yet to see that’s there’s a “moderate” element to your party anymore at all. Only rats deserting the ship for the moment but that’ll all change after the midterms.

  53. “Hillary was dealing with dead employees which took precedence over doing a media round robin.”

    What exactly does that mean? Neither Hillary or Obama has ever accounted for their time or presense around the time of the attack. Ask yourself if Kerry would be the guy you’d expect to see if he were the Sec of State under those circumstances.

    I think Hillary gets a pass for being a woman.

    Dealing with dead employees? Was she digging the graves? Embalming the bodies?

  54. “Sorry Tigre this political “climate” makes me look askance at the deniers.”

    Not in the slightest.

    You are completely ignorant of the subject and totally unquestioning of the so-called science you refer to. Like most warmists, I don’t think you even know the difference between terms you use, e.g. climate change, global warming, warming trends, weather pattern, carbon emission or pollution.

    The now disproved warming trend over the last 15years or so was previously claimed by your liberal friends to be the cause of rape trends in third world countries, mental illness, tsunamis, celestial activity, dad polar bears, peanut butter failing to join in the blessed union with milk chocolate, etc. Weather pattern or global warming? Your dumb MSNBC hosts didn’t bother to question the “settled science,” nor did you.

    As always, I’d be happy to supply you with all of the information you want. I am surrounded by and wallow in some of the aspects of the readily available information you haven’t troubled yourself to examine to any degree. Let me know when your ready.

    In the meantime, quit letting Prissy Hayes get you riled up. The irony of the ship being stuck in ice? Humorous as hell. Your failure to find it and go searching for more victimhood and offense (on cue)? Predictable as hell.

  55. “I was 17 in 78 living on Long Island. Don’t remember the blizzard per se but I barely remember yesterday.

    Your point?

    Even in CT summers seemed to be getting progressively hotter and winters progressively colder.”

    I remember it well too. Boston was shut down for about two weeks. No school. I also remember this extreme weather event blamed on the coming ice age.

    So, over what period of time did you observe the temperature extremes expanding in CT? Surely it was long before 2008. I’d like to see the historical data to see if your impressions jive with any documented trends.

  56. “By the way, someone here, I forgot who, made a reference to the White House feeding stories to MSNBC. Where was the outrage when the Bush admin was doing the very same thing to Fox?”

    I said it. Actually, I said the texted during live broadcasts. Hell, they have Gibbs and Axelrod on their staff.

    Because I don’t watch Fox and didn’t know Bush was doing the very same thing, I wasn’t outraged. Similarly, I am not outraged that they employ the evil she-devil, Palin. I don’t watch the show.

    I’ve Google-searched for something about Bush doing the same thing. I didn’t find it but will assume you speak the truth. And I ask, “so what?” How does what Fox does detract from my point about MSNBC?

    In fact you said you don’t trust Fox. Why would you then use its practices as an example of acceptable for a news organization?

  57. Read the Times piece on Benghazi.

    I don’t get it. While I will buy into the importance of distinguishing between international jihadists and local yokels for the sake of tactical security, I don’t understand the importance of this distinction when it came to the administration lying about the nature of the attack.

    It wasn’t spontaneous. It was a fucking battle. Sure, after everything was smoking, looters showed up. Side bar. Nothing more.

    Its was a CIA and State Department fuck up and Obama tried to lay it all on a perfect scapegoat, a YouTube movie that was riling up the stink beards at the time.

    That was all too convenient of play for a president in the middle of a campaign. Just like now its convenient to cloud things up because of some braggart who tried to sell a book.

    They didn’t run on the shows or give speeches to the UN with the main emphasis on how they have made a vow to fix security and hunt the stink beards down. Nope. They blamed a movie. Over and over again. Repeat. There was no demonstration, that day. They lied

    And…..we still don’t know who was at the helm while our guys fell like Spartans.

    Nobody ever takes responsibility. Ever.

    That dolt they put on the Sunday shows was so obviously spinning…..man…..only the biggest rube of them all would buy that heap of crap.

    Bad shit happens. I actually don’t blame the administration for the actual attack and anything else that was FUBARed that day. I despise them because of the cowardice shown, post attack.

    Everything always ends up being cutesy Tammany Hall bull shit with these hacks. Pisses me off.

  58. This is where I still find Rutherford at his dead level worst – even worse than his obsession with Sarah P.

    Susan Rice wasn’t entirely accurate? She lied thru her teeth.

    How do you really debate or befriend somebody so blatantly dishonest? I mean, really? Somebody that demands perfection from one side and no accountability or truth from the other. And we are supposed to find common ground with people like this?

    And then the NYTimes pens some biased shit defending the indefensible and that means we can now put it to rest, as if the NYTimes, a know lying liberal piece of trash, is America’s declared moral arbiter?

    Honestly, this is why I almost find myself rooting against America anymore. My, how times have changed around here.

  59. @ Rutherford 67
    Don’t misread me,I thought then,later and now that both Rice and Clinton were lying at least in the sense that they explicitly were spinning a story they had to know was false.I found this and continue too believe to be tied to their leftish soft attitudes and the Administrations resolve “not to offend others religious beliefs”. Obama as the boss gets the stink on him because of the underlings and his classic Obama slow and deliberate analysis [overanalysis] of the situation.
    From an ideological standpoint you can’t help but see the very credible seeds of partisan fodder on this.
    I just reread the Rose Garden transcript. ( avail here and couldn’t help but see why folks so vociferously assault on the topic of “not calling it terrorism”. Obama implied it softly and that just doesn’t fly. Obama also reinforced the religion/video line. This is part and parcel to what helped fuel the outrage from the right and poorly cover counters from the left.
    Although the boss deserves the buck to stop on his desk (hail Truman) Obama ain’t that kind of guy and we are worse off as a nation for it. Ultimately Benghazi equals why Hillary Clinton CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO BE PRESIDENT.

  60. I remember it well too. Boston was shut down for about two weeks. No school. I also remember this extreme weather event blamed on the coming ice age.
    Man does that bring back memories. The main street was closed,the trolleys were not even available and people were cross country skiing down the street. It was like an industrial age Currier & Ives scene. Snow banks reaching the second story damn fun stuff.
    I also remember getting the science lecture of the coming ice age and how it was believed to be loosely connected to our hair spray cans.

  61. I don’t think Rutherford took the time to read the NY Times piece.

    He’s repeating exactly what MSNBC is saying about the NY Times piece.

    Rutherford, why are you so mum on the NYT piece?

    What a good (but mindless) little team player Rutherford is. Sprite!

    That’s why he makes such a good chew toy.

  62. R – That’s fine with me. Some of our greatest scientists are religious. If they can reconcile the two (science and religion) who am I to argue?

    Don’t kid yourself. Science and religion are deadly enemies; always have been, always will. Only one will prevail. In my work I occasionally cross paths with serious scientists – some are religious; most consider it silly. When questioned, the “creationists” get backed into a corner very quickly and always respond the same: It’s what I believe.

  63. regards Rutherford’s “obsession” with Sarah Palin: She – not Rutherford – has chosen to be a public figure, so she is open to criticism. Rutherford’s is not an “obsession;” when the topic comes up, he simply points out the obvious: she is out of her depth in a car puddle. That is not open to debate, nor is the fact that such a personage has no business in any position of leadership, nice arse or not.

  64. Science and religion are not enemies. Maybe you mean truth and superstition which is not the same thing. It has only been in our ‘modern’ age that there is a separation between science and religion.

  65. When questioned, the “creationists” get backed into a corner very quickly and always respond the same: It’s what I believe.

    Must hang with some really weak Creationists. I’ve never once been backed into a corner, and invariably the discussion ends with the “scientists” and “scholars” mumbling how I am just being obstinate when I start asking pretty basic evolutionary questions they can’t answer – most get really angry when I even question the dogma and then they start up with mocking the ‘Intelligent Design’ folk, even though I never once make mention of that.

    In fact, this Theory of Evolution reminds me a whole lot of the current debate of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Those who question and start asking questions must be demonized and ridiculed for not bowing to the altar of really bad conclusions.

    Used to piss my PHD “evolutionary biology” teacher off so bad and embarrassed her so, she pulled me into her office after class one day and started crying because I had ‘put her on the spot.’ Got an ‘A’ in the class, so it’s not like I wasn’t understanding the argument.

    It’s not that I don’t believe is some forms of mutation and the like – viruses and bacteria prove that. It’s just that evolution in and of itself can’t begin to explain life; not even close, and most honest scientists without the humanist agenda will admit as much.

    Utter bullshit from the blind – kind of like 97% of scientists believe in ‘Global Climate Change.’

    Don’t believe it for a second, gang. That’s what Pfesser Professor Parker wants you to believe, for Creationists are an inconvenience…

  66. What’s your line of work Crocodile Pusser? I cross paths with many religious scientists. Creationism is not a belief held by all “religious types.”

    And obviously you don’t know R very well. His Palin rats are well documented and over the top. There’s a search bar up at the top of the page if you care to be scientific about rather than just saying shit that ain’t true because you rant too.

  67. Alfie, I remember dragging my sled down the street with my brothers to pick up groceries and jumping off roofs into snow piles. I remember seeing the cover of the Globe with a picture of Anthony’s sunk at the pier. And that’s when I knew. . .

    R needed to switch to Tussy to do his part to reduce HFC emissions. :lol:

  68. The study of early civilizations shows similarities in belief systems and describe how alien beings (gods? angels?) came to the planet and shared knowledge with man, even raising man to a level above animal life that at the time occupied the planet. This goes for the Hopi, Maya, Inca, and those of ancient Sumer and Egypt. They even recorded interrelationships between themselves and mankind, which in the biblical account give us the Nephilim Some theorize they gave us these abilities and intellect to mine gold for them. These ‘religions’ also predict a return of these other worldly beings.

    Ancient civilizations/religions also knew a great deal about the solar system and used that science knowledge to plan their entire lives. There was no separation between state and religion or science and faith. We still can only theorize how they constructed the massive stone structures left for us to see. Our modern machinery can’t come close to replicating.

    We are the generation of compartmentalization living in a society of mass deception. The government has the legal right to use propaganda and secrecy to control us in this current Orwellian world.

  69. #84 goes a long way toward putting the remarks made by Congressman Braun (once again, in church) in context for you Rutherford.

    This is a struggle for some folks from both camps who reject the ability to understand while others are reconciled. Like geneticist and NIH director Dr. Francis Collins, M.D., Ph.D.

  70. More predictions…

    Gas prices going up? They started creeping up here after being held low for the longest time, my guess to appease the masses as they continue to rob us and pass more deviant acts. Now they will climb up and up as the value of the dollar goes down, down, down. The dollar is backed by hot air, difficult to muster anymore in this lukewarm pc empire. We’ve been sold out. Our leaders are split-tongued rope walkers and we’ve been their willing safety net. There may be a smarter use for the rope.

    Here’s Br Nate’s prediction that the petrodollar will fail.

  71. For two years I’ve lost my ass in the stock market – or should I more accurately lost opportunity cost in the market, because I was just sure all this crap we were being fed was hot air. I hold a handful of stocks anymore and maybe 20% in indexed funds. Gold ate that up.

    Not the conspiracy stuff Poolman throws around because, yes I am cynical enough to believe American citizens when taken as a collective are that stupid and herd like – vacillating between irrational exuberance and fear.

    But I am forced to agree with Mr. Poolman’s conclusions nonetheless. I got this palpable feeling that I was too early in my concerns because I’m such a cynic of that crapshoot that goes on in markets – fundamentals are apparently of no consequence anymore to the movers and shakers. But you can only rig the game for so long.

    Consider me dumb enough to still believe what can’t go on forever, won’t.

    And when this bubble burst, I still believe 2008 will look like a blip, contrary to what the shills at Merrill Lynch were feeding me last week.

    I’ve got some cash just waiting to buy fallen stocks.

  72. Tex I don’t understand your comment but then again I am reading it on the fly. What stuff do you invest in that you feel you’ve missed opportunities?
    As for a new burst I think there may very well be one but I am betting it centers again in the financials. Too much debt is being played with as an asset,its crazy.
    Pick a handful of the right companies if you’re into big company stocks as they are not the prey,they are indeed the predators.
    Sadly I don’t think America is as close to the next big thing they need to hit to pull upwards and onwards. Still if you’re looking to root for America again you are going to need a major shift in politics.

  73. On a geopolitical kick in the nuts kind of thing. Sunni militants have kicked Iraqi government forces out of Fallujah. How many Marines died there? For what? Who called this?

  74. In answer to Rabbit’s accusation, no I haven’t read the full NYT piece.

    I saw the headline on the Times web site and read enough to see if the headline was misleading or not. My next source was the author himself interviewed on Meet the Press (not MSNBC). The author himself said:

    Rice’s account was not accurate in that the attack was not spontaneous. But the American video did make matters worse.

    Second, Al Qaeda, the org led by bin Laden had ZERO involvement. The attackers used NATO supplied arms against us. In essence we were attacked by those we thought sympathetic to us.

    As far as I’m concerned MSNBC came late to the story. So no, I’m not parroting MSNBC. I’m basing my comments on the little I read in the Times and an interview with the author himself.

  75. The CIA’s involvement in Libya contributed to the spin being dishonest. I might add that there was a story afloat that Stevens himself was actively involved in diverting Libyan arms to Syria to aid those “freedom fighters”. Perhaps out of respect for the dead that thread of the story has been buried.

    The bottom line is Benghazi was complicated and the “truth” would probably not make the left or the right happy.

    As for Hillary, on top of Benghazi she wasn’t a particularly good Sec of State and that should play against her presidential ambitions.

  76. Mmm Tex I honestly didn’t think you considered yourself a creationist.

    You really believe this was all created in 7 days?

    While I am at it, and I think I’ve asked this before. Why did God create Adam and not Jesus right off the bat? Why didn’t he put his son on the scene at the outset?

    Really I’m not being an asshole. It’s one part of the history that doesn’t make sense to me.

  77. A day unto the Lord is like a thousand years to a man. We are earthlings, Rutherford. A day is relative.

    If that is one part of history that doesn’t make sense to you, what parts do make sense? Let’s build on that. If you can believe intelligent man came from apes without extraterrestrial help, then everything left on its own should become intelligent given time. If you find the opposite in that over time things break down, then you have a harder burden of proof. Without supernatural intervention, you are leaving everything to chance or what is the guiding force?

  78. How do you magic bullet people plausibly explain how we have gotten ourselves into such a pickle without any of the more popular conspiracy claims being truth?

    Think it just a rash of bad politics? Just curious…

  79. Poolman I’m far from an expert on evolution but I’m pretty sure no one ever said a human baby suddenly emerged from an ape’s vagina. I’m pretty sure the theory is more complex and subtle than that. Doesn’t make it right but it does make it less preposterous than you imply.

    As for history in general, it is to be viewed with great skepticism. It is full of lies, as they say, written by the victors. It’s why the older I get the less I like history as a subject. (I never much liked it.)

  80. “R”

    I believe it is indeed six days, not seven. But not as you and I understand days – Poolman’s input is essentially correct, in fact is biblically correct . But that doesn’t mean 6,000 years as the humanists want to accuse. I accept the universe billions of years old – but I also know it to be finite in age and created – making me by definition a ‘Creationist.’

    I choose to believe it means time is irrelevant to God, as God created the concept of time – as Poolman stated.

    I need to find the supporting documentation if really interested, but metaphorically the concept of days and weeks in ancient eastern culture and Hebrew doesn’t translate well into our definition of absolute time.

    For instance, the 40 days of rain during the flood? I was taught 40 days from the ancient Hebrew translation is metaphor and not absolute, and would better be read as ‘a considerable period of time.’ Though I find the Bible infallible, I also understand the period and culture it written. For instance, to this day in Eastern culture, they speak in metaphor. Example: We would say God is omnipotent, omniscient. Talk to somebody in say Syria and you would likely hear God is my rock; God is my fortress, Christ is Living Water instead of Christ is my salvation.

    From the very beginning of Genesis, 3rd chapter to be exact, it hints to Jesus coming in the ‘fullness of time.’ Why that moment in time, Rutherford? I can’t answer that – as it would only be speculation.

    As to Jesus being first? He was there from the beginning – it says so in many places, the most famous being the first Chapter of John. Once again, from the beginning in reference to Jesus and God being one.

    But Rutherford. Since Christ himself said his mission to save us from our sins, had Jesus been first, who was it He was going to save, and exactly who would have been His executioner? Doesn’t Jesus being first condemn us before the crime committed? :smile:

    You know. I do understand the doubt. If people like Pfesser doubtful instead of mocking, respectful while not believing, I would have more measure of understanding. But he doesn’t go seeking to debate – Pfesser goes seeking to offend.

    Te subject is so beyond our comprehension, like the formation of the universe, I can get lost in the contemplation. I would be lying if I said there weren’t certain things I take entirely on faith and I most certainly can’t prove. I won’t even make the attempt.

    It really comes down to this, Rutherford. Pfesser is right about this, though he doesn’t stage it this way:

    C.S. Lewis said, the one thing Christianity can’t be is moderately important. Either Christ was God or Christ was a lunatic. Either the Bible true, or it the cruelest hoax ever perpetrated and should not only be dismissed, but condemned.

    For me, I am willing to believe Jesus is who He said He was. I cannot call Jesus a liar. If that makes me a simpleton, so be it. I believe in faith. But it is not a blind faith as many suggest.

  81. “But the American video did make matters worse.” -R

    How is that? Seriously, why do you say that? Because the New York Times simply suggests it? Use your mind! By the time the small crowd showed up of looters, everybody was dead. Am I wrong?

    Until last night, I never knew that speculating over the involvement of international jihadism vs homegrown was a sticking point. ( I guess I was in the dark on that one)

    In fact, I always suspected exactly what the NY Times piece said: local jihadists killed our ambassador with our own damn weapons!

    Pretty embarrassing during a campaign, no?

    Hell….much worse then Al Queda. The exact kind of thing an insecure president would freak out about.

    The NY Times piece is a good narrative but uses a slight of hand that works like magic on people like you and the bumper sticker left. The following terms are overused among us nerds, but it’s a classic example of strawman and red Herring tricks.

    And that’s why it was important for you actually read the thing you mocked us for avoiding.

    Again. You can deflect all you want. I challenge you to contest this:

    1. They sent a high profile woman on all the Sunday shows to deceive the American public.

    2. They repeatedly gave speeches, one in front of the UN, finger wagging we the people for using our 1st Amendment rights irresponsibly. (That infuriates me, personally).

    3. Lastly, the Buck stopped nowhere. No where. The fallen deserved better.

  82. Tex, interesting article.

    As I’ve mentioned, I’ve bought my own little hide out. I am trying to get it off the grid and I give a lot of thought to the issue.

    That being said, I find these dooms day preppers to live in an absolute fantasy land when it comes to their vision of safely hiding their families from society for countless reasons.

    Man can’t live that way. It was impossible even when the bad ass Presbyterians tracked off into the American wilderness with more handy man talent then even the most able American has today.

    In light of a SHTF event (or more literally lack of), either old communities hold together, new ones form very quickly or we’re fucked. My shitty off the grid cabin or the former Congressman’s grand estate only targets.

    That being said, like many Americans, I have the means to go Mad Max if I have to. Unlike the movies, that shit gives me and my family a 45 minute life span. At least we rabbits will go out with a boom boom boom.

  83. I read the New York Times article, and it was as rabbit so well described. It may be the first step sin rehabiliting Hillary for the next election.

    I wrote a day or so after the attack that Obama should be impeached and I still believe so. He has accumulated a body of work which qualifies him for worse by now.

    I haven’t had time to read any but the last comment. We are home now and facing the coldest air in years. Wind chills may fall to -50 with our forecast low to be about -17 with wind to 30 MPH. My wife will probably return to Omaha after we attend a meeting and election tomorrow afternoon. I may stay home in case pipes freeze and maybe to bring our dog inside.

    I did ski this afternoon, but stayed out of the wind. I am typing on the new lap top computer our daughter and son in law gave us for Christmas out of gratitude for what we are doing for them and our grand daughter.

    I told you all that our daughter’s insurance bill increases $5,000 per year and she may yet lose her policy. A co- worker makes $900 every two weeks, and her insurance premium is now $700 a month.

    That dirty little liar did this.

  84. So since Rutherford failed to really stretch himself in his post but stepped in a bit of pooh in the thread I was wondering if I could connect some dots.
    2014 in my opinion will see a lot of conflict and tensions circa the 20th century version of ’14. Domestically though we have all ready seen the opening salvo in the democrat primary I’d the polishing of the Hillary turd. Will Lizzie Warren run against her. Some chatter says this depends on if the liberals feel emboldened by the likes of deBlasio.

  85. I know politicians lie but Warren has already definitively stated she’s not running.

    I never thought my blog would become home to survivalist nutjobs. Rabbit get your sanity back.

    James, as our elder statesman here I love you man but Obama did nothing to you. Are there any Dem representatives in Nebraska or wherever you are? If so, THEY (led by Nancy Pelosi) did this to you. Last time I looked, Obama is not a dictator contrary to what you might read in World Nut Daily.

  86. “How is that? Seriously, why do you say that? Because the New York Times simply suggests it? ”

    And Rabbit what are your sources? You got inside info from the State Dept or the CIA?

    Now I’m basing this statement on the self published bios of everyone here (all of which may be falsified) but everyone here is a pretty ordinary Joe. We are ALL relying on sources that tell some mixture of truth and lies. I tend to defer a bit to Huck on foreign affairs because of his studies. Same for Alfie who I think has a broader reading palette than most of us.

    What I’m getting at is it is sometimes pretty absurd that we play armchair experts. So let me be the first to say I am not an expert. Frankly half the time I don’t know WTF is going on. I find accounts that align with my political instincts more credible than those that don’t.

    I suspect the same could be said of most of us.

  87. Oh … regarding my comment to James, before someone goes there…no I’m not letting Obama off the hook. He pushed this thing and HE would like to take credit for it but it is still the case that he needed Congress to pass it (dirty means or not) and eventually he needed the Supreme Court to uphold it.

    Finally he needed the American people to make sure Mitt Romney didn’t kill it. So my message to James is there is a lot of “blame” to go around.

  88. Come on now…..its cool being semi off the grid!

    I now have my own cabin in the woods. (Pre Fab on a slab). It’s a big deal for me!.

    I’m also gonna put that camper trailer on there with the goal of having it run off of solar and propane only. Its will be a guest house/shortwave radio shack.

    Its basically a hunting camp close to lots of lakes and fun shit.

    If the power goes out I’m a two hour drive away from a little home that will be fueled by wood and/or propane. I also have my own well (I’m going to try to hook up a hand pump this summer so that my water isn’t reliant on electricity).

    Its ugly and only 7 acres but its a bow hunting dream there. Next to hundreds of acres of swamp and woods and also next to a lot of farm land. Ton of deer. Geese, Turkey and ducks too!

    A place to fire my guns I’m the summer.

    I agree most of the preppers are delusional. However, being completely dependent on the grid is crazy too.

    Shit can go south, Rutherford.

    My little dump is a dream come true for me.

    Dude….I’m a red blooded Michigan white boy. This is what we do!

  89. Lol…..The crowd doesn’t go all “spontaneous” on us when the fucking RPG’s and rifle fire is flying in all directions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just a hunch.

    But…lets say that amazingly…there were a few crazy, local fuckers NOT part of the Islamic militia who happened to be pissed about the movie so they briefly ran around mooning people during a gun battle with their angry faces on…………so fucking what?

    Please see the three things I asked you to contest.

  90. “Last time I looked, Obama is not a dictator contrary to what you might read in World Nut Daily.” -R

    Oh the irony. The last time I looked Obama was dictating changes in the very law you speak by of. Some of them grand sweeping in nature. Motherfucker is issuing fatwas like the Grand Mufti.

    If its not his law why is the law his personal play ground, Constitution and Congress be damned?

  91. By the way…..you are making excuses, fan boy. Obama was on that stump for a year straight lying to a people who for the most part loved him.

    James’ family is hurting because Obama is a dirty liar. There is no way around that.

  92. By the way, I’m not survivalist, “R.” The big one hits, let me be at ground zero. I have no desire to live in a world of Mad Max.

    What I was suggesting is when and if the lights go out, we are totally unprepared and few will know how to operate without juice.

  93. “If its not his law why is the law his personal play ground, Constitution and Congress be damned?”

    Do we need to bring in an expert on executive powers? What if I said the changes made were necessary to enforce the law, which is the role of the executive branch.

  94. “James’ family is hurting because Obama is a dirty liar. There is no way around that.”

    That defies logic. The law was what it was before during and after the lie. Do you believe Pelosi when she said we’ll find out what’s in the law after we pass it? Maybe that was Obama’s playbook too? Or maybe they were all lying?

    And for all the criticism and repeal attempts, I don’t recall GOPers calling out that lie until folks already started losing their plans.

    So hell, I’ll up my ante and say James has the GOP half of Congress to blame too.

  95. FWIW gentlemen and lady, job subsidized health care is a beautiful thing. My wife got laid off and COBRA keeps getting subsidized by IBM for six months. After that it’s COBRA without the subsidy and all hell breaks loose. And that has NOTHING to do with Obamacare.

    Health insurance is expensive. I’m not sure Obamacare can make it much worse. It’s already a bitch.

  96. ” What if I said the changes made were necessary to enforce the law, which is the role of the executive branch.”

    Then we’d laugh in your face, like this….

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    He’s not changing the law in order to enforce it. He’s changing the law in order to NOT enforce it!

    “And for all the criticism and repeal attempts, I don’t recall GOPers calling out that lie until folks already started losing their plans.

    So hell, I’ll up my ante and say James has the GOP half of Congress to blame too.”

    Yep. It’s the GOP’s fault because they didn’t call out a lie until it actually was proven to be…a lie.

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  97. LOL……that video was great^^^

    Rutherford, this is seven acres within Michigan’s version of Appalachia.

    30 grand. I put a chunk down and have a land contract. People buy cars for more them that.

  98. Rabbit: “I’m also gonna put that camper trailer on there with the goal of having it run off of solar and propane only.”

    There is quite a large amount of lost lore about living simply; things your great-grandfather knew in his bones you are going to have to learn de novo.

    Takes a lot of solar panels to generate much electricity, and an alternator will go thro’ a large tank of propane very quickly. Be sure to go to LED lights – abt 1/5 the power usage of incandescent for same # of lumens. Also, unlike compact fluorescents, they just get dimmer as your battery voltage drops, rather than just going out.

    “Its will be a guest house/shortwave radio shack.”

    You have a ham license? Long distance balloon pilots, aircraft, etc use low powered HF (3-30 MHz) On toward the upper end of the band (American citizen’s band – 27 MHz) is very short range without big antennas and amplifiers and I assume you don’t want to be too conspicuous. Ham operators can talk around the world on a wire antenna and 75 Watts power. The know-how alone is worth the work in studying for a Ham license.

    “If the power goes out I’m a two hour drive away from a little home that will be fueled by wood and/or propane. I also have my own well (I’m going to try to hook up a hand pump this summer so that my water isn’t reliant on electricity). ”

    How deep is your well? If over about 25′ deep, you need a deep-well, windmill-type pump. (It can be run by hand, also.) These guys are probably the best American source of off-the-grid-living old-time products:

    http://non-electric.lehmans.com/hardware/Deep%20Well%20Hand%20Pump

  99. Rutherford, none of the Republicans voted for the Affordable Care Act. Your favorite Republican Sarah Palin warned us of “death panels” before the bill became law. I had read the bill and knew though her description was over- wrought and dramatic, it was right.

    Conservative writers told us the bill would not be as advertised, while Obama promised everyone could keep their old policies and their doctors. Obama and most Democrats knew it was a lie and decided their mendacity was important to insure passage of the law.
    Nebraska Rep Lee Terry said on KFAB radio that it was a bad bill and would damage the health care and insurance system. Our doctor told me we would be in a world of hurt with passage of the law.

    Obama IS a dirty little liar, and so are many of the Democrats who voted for this law. Either that or they are too incompetent to hold office..Republicans have committed their own sins, but Democrats not Republicans gave birth to ObamaCare. Republicans were more like Obama with a surviving aborted baby, willing to let him/her die without care.

  100. Rutherford: “While I am at it, and I think I’ve asked this before. Why did God create Adam and not Jesus right off the bat? Why didn’t he put his son on the scene at the outset?

    Really I’m not being an asshole. It’s one part of the history that doesn’t make sense to me.”

    Arguing this nonsense is just a waste of time, R. The way myths are produced is that you start at the end and then go back and make the “facts” and legend fit whatever outcome you want. These guys saw a nice train and got on it and rode it to unimaginable power and profit, all on the backs of the credulous. Who was your guys’ philosopher? P. T. Barnum? I like W.C. Fields’ version better: It is immoral for a sucker to keep his money.

    Hell, R, NONE of it makes any sense. Why does the unspeakably powerful need the worship of a few hairless monkeys? What does that do? Such insecurity is a human emotion, not a god’s. Why are gods a certain sex? They don’t need a tallywhacker or a snapper, since they just create people and things out of nothing. To piss through? Give me a break…

    You’re just wasting your time, R. Be patient. Time and technology will take care of superstition; it’s just hard to realize that, in terms of human habitation on this planet, we are at the VERY VERY beginning of civilization. Patience, my friend. Patience. Take the long view. Thousands of years. Superstition is fueled by fear of death, just like sexual mores were fueled by fear of pregnancy. The pill solved problem one; puss flows like water these days, now that the shelias are not afraid of pregnancy.

    Once death is conquered by science, superstition will shrink to vanishing, and humanity will get squared-away. Unfortunately, none of us here is going to make the cut.

  101. No matter what happens, rabbit, I think buying land you can afford is a good idea. Property values have risen so fast here the return on investment is better than the stock market. However, our land now seems overvalued, and it will soon lose value. We bought most of our productive farm land for $460 per acre, and now it averages $8700 per acre in our county.

    If you like us don’t plan to sell for a profit, the listed value is irrelevant unless you plan to borrow money on it. Lower valuation also means lower property taxes.

    Coast to Coast discussed people near Los Angeles who forsook the city for rural self sufficiency.They built their own solar and wind power sources, and raised their own food. Recently the county has taken notice and invaded the enclaves with notice of code violations. One man cleared brush as ordered, but he was later ordered off his land. He could own the property but couldn’t live there.

    Speaking of Coast to Coast which I just did, UFO Phil Listening to Coast to Coast on YouTube video might amuse you.

    It is -2 this morning, close to our high for the day. Tonight, it is supposed to reach -17 with a wind chill of -40 to -50. As bad as this is, we have seen worse. In December, 1983 we had over a foot of snow on the ground, and the temperature stayed below zero for over ten days. The extremes were from around -5 to -30 degrees. Christmas Eve would have tried Santa. The high was -18 with wind gusts up to 35 MPH and near zero visibility in very light snow and blowing snow.

  102. The British version of the Tea Party is gaining strength. Perhaps, in a few years, they will do what the British did to our Rock and Roll music, reprocess it and return it to us.

  103. I believe in a supreme being, but the God we worship is of our own creation. We created God in our own image. He probably understands because the reality may be beyond our comprehension.

    You know that some stories tell us Lilith was Adam’s first wife. She was so head strong Adam asked for a replacement. Lilith and her progeny still hector the world. The Easter Lilly represents Lilith and or a gate way to the underworld.

  104. Hey Pfessor…….I currently have a couple antennas that are probably 25 feet tall. I think they are 2 meter? I also have a 70 foot give or take long wire that I could throw up in a tree.

    While I have a Ham radio, I’m just a “DXer’. I don’t have much interest in transmitting. In fact, I don’t know crap about radio. I think that adds to the mystery when I scan the bands for weird and far away stuff. I was thinking if I wasn’t hooked up to electricity, I could run the radio off a car battery.

    My camper runs off 12 volt and propane. The heat and fridge is propane.

    When I say solar powered, I only mean keeping the lights on. I did not know that LED’s dim with the battery. That’s cool they dim before they die.

    I was thinking two panels and the inverter thing would be more then enough? In fact, I wasn’t going to even mount the panels because I’m petrified of drilling holes in my camper roof and theft when I’m not up there.

    Yeah….I actually don’t know how deep my well is. Man…..I hope I don’t need a fucking windmill!

    The water pump is my goal for this summer. I hope its not too hard.

    This is the cool thing about owning a little cabin….forces you to learn more.

  105. James….isn’t land crazy?

    I hope the bubble pops.

    My brother (the pharmacist) is going to try to buy the larger sections of land next to my property. Problem its not for sale. (I bought my place off my wife’s uncle).

    In fact…..4 of my brothers now want to buy next to me!

    Its just so damn expensive. Having a place “up north” was very common a generation ago. Even the line workers had their cabin on the lake or 50 acres hunting land. Really tough for the middle class to buy land like that now. Its kind of a glaring example of the middle class not having the purchasing power it used to. They don’t seem to care. I guess they like cheap tablets to play on instead of looking at the stars away from the city.

  106. Rutherford trust me,you can’t take a politicians word especially a (D) regards staying in the Senate,just ask Obama.
    The buzz for 2014 for your side is the new,new Left. There is some poli-sci behind this and if the chips stay the way they are its gonna happen.

  107. dead rabbit you have a front row seat to what large swathes of the USA and indeed the world is experiencing. Cities are making a comeback and part of this relies on tech/consumer culture prevailing. The folks that are being left behind in the suburbs and exurbs are starting to experience something many of them never imagined. For example the rise in distressed communities are now centered on ‘burbs as opposed to cities.
    An alternative is smart folks taking a shot at rural property. You just have to hope you have an area that the elites aren’t competing with you. Sounds like parts of MI have ample room. I imagine its hard to get anything near the Lakes though.

  108. I’m not sure Obamacare can make it much worse
    Ummm yeah it can. It’ll be about access now which ironically only will hurt those it was meant to help. On a solid note of irony both MA and OR have released studies that shows contrary to the technocrats thoughts Emergency Room use has actually increased or returned to prior levels.

  109. Time and technology will take care of superstition; it’s just hard to realize that, in terms of human habitation on this planet, we are at the VERY VERY beginning of civilization.

    Well, except Pfesser the Scholar has a few of his facts completely wrong, “R.”

    First, the world is now more “religious” than ever. Do you know what is the best selling piece of literature in the world, by 500% last year over any New York Times best seller, and has been since they begin keeping records?

    The Bible.

    Just heard this morning, last year 60 million Bibles were purchased, or more than 164,000 a day. That doesn’t include things like Gideons – just people walking in or ordering across the internet to make purchase.

    Ever wonder why our children so disrespectful anymore, so amoral? Why should they be?

    If they’re nothing but refined, hairless apes, why shouldn’t they be?

    And Pfesser’s science, contrary to his claims, has opened up more questions than answers and the findings total contrary to what secular scientists preaching as their own dogma even 20 years ago. Apparently, even the premise of their former supposed proof, ‘Junk DNA’, isn’t junk at all, and in fact is absolutely necessary to the basis of life – the ability to perform mitosis via the cell cycle – a complex so utterly profound, we are only beginning to understand how complex even a single cell division is. You’ve got 75 trillion of those making you – all smart enough somehow to differentiate into exactly form and function.

    And the cell once thought simple protoplasm, aka the former foundation of Darwinian evolution? Think again. Buwahahaha.

    Like I said, yesterday. Pfesser is not only wrong in his facts; he’s wrong in even his basic conclusions – in fact, the polar opposite of truth. I hope that last bit of tripe was evidence of what I said yesterday about the Pfessers of the world – their beef is agenda driven – like Global Climate Change only for a more insidious reason; rank propaganda, based solely on their selfish desires live without borders or rules.

    But let me ask you a more basic question, “R.” What hope does Pfesser provide you to the situation you find yourself in? What words of comfort can Pfesser’s mindset provide you in time of need?

    Time and technology will take care of superstition; it’s just hard to realize that, in terms of human habitation on this planet, we are at the VERY VERY beginning of civilization.

    Anybody believe now that we’ve split the atom with the ability to devastate millions of lives at one time, we are only now at the dawn of civilization? The ability to not know your neighbor and befriend a person in China? Anybody here really that naive?

    Superstition is believing nature left to its own accord works magic. That’s real faith – in superstition.

    No gentleman and ladies…we humans are quickly approaching our apex – the climatic end as we know it. How arrogant and weak we are when we begin to believe in only ourselves, foolish enough to think we are the end all…in only the things seen.

    Choice is yours, “R.” You can believe this is all there is, or you can decide like me to believe in Hope. The choice is yours.

    “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book UNTIL the time of the end, many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall increase greatly.” ~ Daniel 12:4

  110. R – this just in. Bill Nye to debate the founder of the “Creation Science” museum located in that Mecca of science……….Kentucky, US.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/bill-nye-science-guy-debate-evolution-kentuckys-creation/story?id=21409963&.tsrc=sun?date6000360006000600

    Thus quoth Mr. Nye: “I say to the grown-ups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, in your world that’s completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that’s fine, but don’t make your kids do it because we need them.”

    Mark your calender. Buy your popcorn.

  111. Bill Nye, the science guy? :lol: Yeah, Rutherford. There’s your proof, buddy.

    By the way, Mr. Rutherford. Allow me the liberty to brag for one moment, as it provides a measure of proof just how transparent these “scholars” really are in their presentation of how impeding we ‘Creationists’ are to good science.

    This creationist’s kid? Attending Christian schools her entire K-12 education?

    She was recently asked to give presentation on how to study for Step 1 of the medical boards…to the University of Texas Medical Students.

    Worse, this kid is a…a…a…Devout Christian.

    Yes, God does have a wonderful sense of humor…

  112. Without a doubt, the Christian kids seem to be more successful and happy.

    The ones living in Dad’s basement after high-school……no ambition, no goals….just playing Call of Duty….these types are less likely to be from a Christian family.

    Obviously just generalizations…..

    I want to send my kids to Catholic School and keep wavering back and forth. Private High-school is so damn expensive I would have nothing left for college. And…we live in a pretty good public school district. The local Catholic high school is bad ass though…..kind of Spartan in nature….tough…academically and athletically victorious.

  113. rabbit are you considering just private high school for the kids or elementary also?

    IMO the education is worth the money and the sacrifices you’ll need to make for it to happen. I’m actually thrilled for you that the local one has the added allure.

  114. The pettiness exhibited by the atheists is seriously pathetic. Anyone experiencing waves of excitement about an essentially pay per view “debate” between two cranks needs help STAT! Nothing comes of this other than mutual ego stroking and legitimization that a debate on the topic exists.

  115. Christian education is as much a toss up as secular education is. What appears to be a universal truth with religious education institutions is that the ones with the best reputation emphasize academics found elsewhere,work on character issues,and ultimately only provide faith teaching in what can safely be termed “lite” mode.
    There are some seriously woeful theological based schools all across the k-12 spectrum and obviously the difference between Oral Roberts or Liberty compared to an Ivy or a number of state schools is wider and deeper chasm than the Grand Canyon.

  116. “I say to the grown-ups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, in your world that’s completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that’s fine, but don’t make your kids do it because we need them.” -Bill Nye

    Science neither proves nor disproves the Creator.

    Interesting remark about needing the kids though. It’s clever at first, but ultimately sinister for its obvious insecurity. Almost like he doesn’t trust the evidence to win the smart kids over in the end.

  117. rabbit mentioned a badass local Catholic high school known for excellence in both academics and athletics and he didn’t mention a badass competetive public high school. So I took his wavering to be in the abstract with the only concrete factor a badass Catholic high school.

  118. Christian education is as much a toss up as secular education is.

    As in most things America, this is true, Alfie. Like the old good advice of ignoring dips and valleys and concentrate on trends, the rule applies also to education – most private schools beat public schools; but not always. Parent’s discretion (loving parents) is always the best guide. And there are some great students still coming out of public schools.

    But don’t discount ORU, Alfie. In my MBA years back in the stone ages, where it was still esteemed and somewhat difficult to get in populated mostly with engineering students, there were two students in a class of 34 that stood head and shoulders above the others. This was a class that included students from Columbia, Princeton, Duke, and some of the more illustrious state schools.

    The two best students by far were from ORU and Purdue. Before Oral Roberts pulled his 700ft tall Jesus stunt and was summarily mocked off the stage (well deserved), ORU was academically probably the most prestigious college in Oklahoma, surpassing even TU in academic achievement. That may not be rated with Ivy League – but TU at one time was called the Ivy League of the Plains.

    At one time, ORU had one of the best medical universities in the South – that dried up pronto after the fall of the founder. It’s a shell of its former self now – but 30 years ago, it was well respected globally.

  119. I want to send my kids to Catholic School and keep wavering back and forth. Private High-school is so damn expensive I would have nothing left for college.

    You do what we did, D.R.. You pay as you go. Crap, my youngest daughter’s college education cost us $3,000 a month alone. We saved for college – but much of it was paid by my wife simply paying month-to-month as her worthless husband kept a clean house.

    The private education, K-12, was paid month-to-month through a loan program the school had set up which was virtually interest free over a nine month period. While a few of the parents who went to school with my kids had wine cellars in their house, no kidding, few parents I know who sent their kids to my children’s schools did so without some assistance – either monetary or monthly payment. It simply becomes a part of your budgeting and you get used to it.

    We didn’t live in a fancy house, but both my children have since told me the greatest gift we ever provided to them has their K-12 education. Truthfully the older I get, the more a house becomes more of a pain in the ass. Why would I want a bigger one to pay taxes?

    My children were so prepared for college, that most of it was a cakewalk – my oldest told me here Calculus class at A&M was easier than her Calculus class in high school. She had CLEP’d out (sp?) through AP with a 5, but at the time, I told her to take it anyway because I truly didn’t know how AP classes truly ranked vis-a-vis college classes.

    If your kids do score well in the AP classes, don’t do what I did. Take the hours and run.

  120. Anecdotally speaking I can’t think of anyone I know that went to parochial school and sent their kids to public school but I can think of many examples of the reverse. I even know people who were miserable in high school and still wouldn’t consider sending their own kids to public school.

    I’m not implying anything beyond that I find that interesting and certainly true for me personally. Hah – my headstrong niece begged my sister to send her to public high school and they did and my niece lasted two weeks. :lol:

  121. Man…..I taught AP for 6 years (scary thought I know). AP is by far more rigorous then the university counterpart. The professors hate on AP due to elitism. AP have a great system. The tests are fair, too.

    K-4 will be public for my boys as my backyard butts up against the playground and its a good school.

    5th grade we’re thinking about switching to Catholic school.

    Parents empower private schools. Parents weaken Public Schools. Simple as that.

  122. Rutherford how come you never have any questions about dogmatic atheism? Or if you are an atheist – on what do you base your conclusion? How much do you know and understand about the theory of evolution – is it more or less than you know about faith? Does science prove to you that there’s no creator? Or are you of that mindset that refuses to accept the demands of burden of proof?

    You keep asking questions but the answers never seem to move you – you neither argue the response nor are you evidently enlightened. So does that make you “just curious?”

    Are you an atheist or an agnostic? I used to assume you were agnostic but I asked you once and you allowed others to answer for you at the time and their replies stood uncorrected. So are you an atheist then – which is what others claim for you?

  123. Did you guys ever hear the gay rumors about Aaron Rogers? I’m (to my own surprise actually) more than a little bothered that he’s being asked about this. It seems to be coming from the gay community too as I understand it.

    Is this really what we’ve come to?

  124. “Almost like he doesn’t trust the evidence to win the smart kids over in the end.”

    Interesting observation Muffy. We don’t live in a world where kids grow up without adult influence.

    Such an experiment is impossible but I do wonder what would happen if every child were left to come to his or her own conclusions. How many children would say, as I did in an earlier comment, “that just doesn’t make sense” concerning God, Jesus, Allah, Buddah and other religious matters.

  125. “Parents empower private schools. Parents weaken Public Schools. Simple as that.”

    Not to challenge your professional opinion Rabbit but I think it’s more than that.

    It’s “anyone can come” vs “pay to play”. Any system that can winnow out the population to those who can pay (up front or on time) is going to have a different environment than a free system.

    The other thing not mentioned so far is that some private schools are sanctuaries for public school rejects. I attended private school grades 6 thru 8 because in 1972 no public school would mainstream me. I was there because of my disability but lots of my peers were there cos they were loonies.

    I have fond memories of those days but it was a bit of an asylum. LOL Then again Jr High (or middle school as some call it) is a crazy time anyway.

  126. It’s “anyone can come” vs “pay to play”. Any system that can winnow out the population to those who can pay (up front or on time) is going to have a different environment than a free system.

    A crutch to feign excuse for the excesses and the miserable failure of liberalism in education. If it’s not selection, it’s money. We spend more money per public education than any country on earth. The results vs. the financing are deplorable – it should outrage everyone.

    I know two kids the entire time that were kicked out of my children’s private school – no one is winnowed. I know hundreds who received financial assistant so not everyone is rich.

    You had a higher caliber parent, indeed and a dearth of the Pfesser elitists – and our kids always kicked the shit out of his elite kids test scores – especially in the math and sciences.

    Only in the public sphere of propaganda do progressives win anything.

    But Muffy does ask an interesting question, Rutherford. She touches on something that you don’t want to admit.

    You choose to turn the blind eye. You never ask a question about the hyperbole and conclusions of atheism or evolution – never. Why is it so hard to admit you’re Pfesser without the attitude? You like it this way.

    Do you know that I was thinking today about progressivism while watching the waste of green energy and the arrogance of men like you on 60 minutes – abjectly stupid assholes from Silicon Valley thinking Facebook is the same as refining – as they’ve wasted billions in tax dollars. And it occurred to me…

    You Ivy League, coastal types really do think we are troglodytes. There’s a profound arrogance about of atheists and libs. They lie to themselves to convince themselves they are better. But it is not our cities failing bankruptcy, or looting Walmarts, or playing knockout. What a shithole libs have made of their locale, hiding behind community gates.

    Progressive types have failed at everything. And I do mean everything but entertainment.

    Here’s a fun fact for today. This supposed recovery is the first time in U.S. history where during a ‘recovery’, wages have gone down. And who do these elitists blame? The job creators.

    We don’t really need these POS anymore – we ought to cut them loose.

  127. Three things and I have to say it cracks me up that we as a group get into these topics.
    #1 nothing is as uncivil as the radical gay agenda crowd when they decide you are to be out. The irony and hypocrisy is insane.
    #2 Rutherford 154 captures the spirit of something that bothers me about the anti-religion types. Regardless of any mainstream upbringing countless people alter their personal faith paths. One doesn’t need a vacuum lifestyle to come to terms with a deity or to denounce the concept either.
    #3 Although I appreciate Rutherfords experience and point re education there are a number of things that challenge it. Charter schools for starters. Don’t get me wrong I know there are plenty of them that suck but the majority have a basic truth going for them. That student and parental choice positively impact education. I would add that schools like Boston’s SSAT Exam schools offer the same dynamic. (Boston Latin,Latin Academy & what ever they call Boston Tech these days)
    I thoroughly believe no school or teacher creates a great student/ graduate they help what is all ready there. The same can be said about the opposite,nothing can force someone to achieve goals they just don’t want.

  128. Sorry. I’m having a hard time typing – my middle finger on my left hand is really messed up right now – actually hurts to type.

    You’re going to have to live with the typos for a while.

  129. Rutherford noted: “Such an experiment is impossible but I do wonder what would happen if every child were left to come to his or her own conclusions. How many children would say, as I did in an earlier comment, “that just doesn’t make sense” concerning God, Jesus, Allah, Buddah and other religious matters.”

    Sure – if you have to corral your flock for a couple of hours every week, and sometimes on Wednesday, to keep pouring your propaganda on their heads so they won’t backslide, then you don’t have a very convincing institution, do you?

    Your Mark Twain had a pretty good POV on it: ref: Satan. “A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race, and political head of the whole of it, must be granted the possession of executive abilites of the loftiest order. In his large presence the other popes & politicians shrink to midgets for the microscope. He hasn’t a single salaried helper; The Opposition employs a million.”

    And they still only convince a minority. Hmmmm……….What’s wrong with this picture?

  130. Rutherford,

    You should listen to Pfesser and take his advice. He’s of course, always right.

    Voltaire, the noted French infidel and one of the most fertile and talented writers of his time, used his pen to retard and demolish Christianity. Of Christ, Voltaire said, “Curse the wretch!” He once boasted, “In 20 years Christ will be no more. My single hand shall destroy the edifice it took twelve apostles to rear.”

    Give up the search before you even start – you can sit in your own bleakness, without hope, always content in your own imminent death that this is all there is. You said it yourself – you’re convinced there’s nothing more.

    IMO, you would do better to condemn than provide anymore of the pretentiousness of your own act that you follow the evidence. Muffy, didn’t say it, but she is right in the insinuation. Your own biases are evident. You do not recognize this, but it provides the path to all of your decisions.

    And I will not bother to answer another of your ‘philosophical’ questions – an utter waste of my time. But I tried.

    Believe as you must.

  131. Lol…..What the hell did you do to your middle finger? Do we even want to know?

    Rutherford, I agree with what you said about private school. That’s the point!

    Sounds like you went to what we call an “alternative” school around here.

    Charter schools around here are awful but compared to the savage Mad Max inner city Public Schools are a Godsend.

    I don’t want to send my kid to any private school. I want to send my kid to one of the best private schools.

    Why is it so good? Because like minded parents want it to be the best and agree discipline is a good thing, everyone getting A’s a bad thing. I want some fire put on the ass of my kid.That can not happen in public school.

    Warning. Rant.

    The pressure we get from parents and administration for giving even a B for a grade is astounding. The parents always side with their kid and administration almost always sides with the parents. Last year I had a kid who came to school 5 times all semester. Administration acted like I was a bad guy for failing her. In fact…..I found out she received credit anyways.

    The shit never ends. Its like fighting city hall. Impossible.

    I don’t even no where to begin when explaining how fucked up public schools are. Forces pull you in opposite directions at the same time. Politicians want it to be more rigorous but also want all curriculum modified to accommodate every single kid who gets an ADHD diagnosis ( which the kids wear as badge of honor, I shit you not). Do you guys have any idea how many kids are on mind altering drugs prescriptions?

    It used to be you got accommodations if you were special ed. (That supposedly meant you perform at a lower level then your IQ due to a handicap…although that has never been the case). Then you got accommodated if you simply were diagnosed with a learning disability. (That takes about 20 minutes and a 100 bucks). We’ve reached the point where you get accommodated upon request. By accommodation I mean things like you get to take tests over again. Tests read to you. Turn in work any time you want, no dead lines. Notes printed out. In some cases you don’t even have to write or read. Assignments shortened. One time they tried to make me put special light bulbs on my room. I have one kid this year who, by law, gets to listen to his iPod all hour in class because it “helps him concentrate”. Of course he is failing because he can’t hear a word I say. Speaking of which, the latest trend, much of it stemming from common core, is against me saying much at all!…..but that is another can of worms.

    Would you guys believe deadlines are frowned upon in public school! I shit you not!

    Meanwhile…..money is pissed away. The evaluation process of school and teachers nonsensical. Standards and benchmarks redone every two or three years at the tax payers expense. Data used so poorly it would make any one with a D or better in a stats 101 class bust out laughing. Common assessments in which they stuff us in a room and force us to make these rushed, horrible tests in one day and then dissect the data with real serious faces for years.

    The worst teachers are glorified by administration because they don’t question the madness and volunteer for every futile committee.

    I feel dirty even being associated with it. The time off and the money too good. I deserve your ridicule.

  132. “I’m throwing my name into the local MS/HS substitute teaching pool tomorrow. And it’s a shallow pool. Any tips, DR?”

    Just be yourself and don’t try to impress. Baby sit them. Keep them in their seats. (Seriously).

    Say you want a kid to sit down, just tell him to sit down and then walk a way. Don’t stick around for any confrontation.

    Don’t be emotional. Never challenge….you always lose.

    Try to keep everything in house. Try not to kick kids out of class. But if some crazy goes down….report it instantly.

    Don’t try to teach them but tell them you are interested in what they are learning. Help them when they ask for it.

    Don’t worry if they are blowing the lesson off. It doesn’t have to be silent.

    Don’t be creepy with the chicks.

    I was a building sub for three years. Survive the day, dude.

  133. Our once sacred institutions are rotting from the inside. It has been a long term plan successfully executed by tptb. Those with good intent are losing the battleground, I fear. Too many within them prioritize personal gain over principle, jockeying for space on bandwagon. Psychopaths run things. If you have moral objections you won’t grease any wheels by voicing them. It will cost you, big time. The end goal is not and has not been liberty and justice for all.

    Prepare to be assimilated. Join the nwo collective. Resistance is futile.

  134. Well I don’t know what family health issues are effecting Liz Cheney but I’m glad she’s out of the Wyoming race. I would have preferred to see Enzi beat her ass but at least we won’t be seeing her in the Senate.

  135. If it makes you feel any better Rabbit, 99% of the time we assume the teacher is right about our daughters grades. Yes there is that 1% when we scratch our heads and say WTF but we resist bitching about it. And our daughter is big on Mommy and Daddy minding their own fucking business and letting her get on with it.

  136. Really pathetic, D.R.. I think I have told you this before, but Tulsa Public Schools, about 40/50 years ago some of the very best in the nation if you believe in that sort of thing about ratings and at the height of oil boom when money plentiful, now churn out so many ‘exceptional darlings.’ that a few years back, it was published in the T-World that one out of seven attending college doesn’t need remedial work to start college – only God knows how bad it is for those who don’t even attend college. Remedial work for college? My question is, how did they get accepted to begin with?

    Reads like we are well on our way to raising a generation of imbeciles, assuring there will be more Obamas for President along the way for as long as it lasts.

    ———–

    I have overworked my finger, “R.” Not for anything pleasurable, though. :smile: My bird finger on my left hand is causing the biggest problem. I went to the dermatologist a few months back to discover that the distal digits of the middle three fingers of my left hand had eczema – painful but livable. Nasty – my skin is literally cracking and the tips of your fingers are sensitive for reason. Started on my left thumb three years ago while I was building a fence, then disappeared on its own.

    Dermo said it was occupational – use your hands long enough with wet or abrasive material, especially in cold, and if you are susceptible to that sort of thing, you develop it. They believe it’s an autoimmune disorder.

    Gave me a cortizone shot, purchased a tube of Elidel (outrageously expensive stuff with the absolute strongest warning the FDA issues), and within two weeks I was back to normal. Or so I thought.

    Installed that wood floor and it came back worse than ever. Diagnosed myself, took some prednisone tablets I had left and it got better. Then it came right back again. Frustrating, to say the least.

    I’m getting old – I’m even starting to look old. :mad:

  137. Parents empower private schools. Parents weaken Public Schools. Simple as that.” – DR

    I think it depends on the school. My boys are in public elementary school, and the school is a fantastic school. IB. 9 out of 10 on the great schools chart. We’re heavily invested in the school, because we believe in it. In fact, we bought the house we have because of the school(s) it is tied to, and we won’t move–even though we’d like too–because of the schools.

    I think that if the school demonstrates that it is willing to hold itself accountable–and ours does–as well as the students accountable, then it is easier to get parental buy-in. That said, there are a lot of parents in our school who take it for granted, but every school event is packed with parent participation.

    I say this though willing to, and having in the past, put my kids in private school. I’ll not chance a fucked up school and will invest in their education.

  138. Been saying this for how long?

    Michael Meyers, executive director of the New York Civil Rights Coalition, told The Daily Caller that Melissa Harris-Perry and MSNBC engage in racial McCarthyism to silence mainstream black voices.

    “I’m an African-American, and I’m a liberal,” said Meyers, longtime former member of the ACLU’s Board of Directors and onetime aide to legendary NAACP executive director Roy Wilkins. ”I shook when I watched that segment where they were calling out the African-American grandchild of Mitt Romney. I was really appalled.”

    MSNBC host Harris-Perry apologized Saturday for a segment in which she and her guests mocked the adopted black grandson of Mitt Romney and said that Romney having a black grandchild was indicative of the Republican Party, which finds token black people for photo ops.

    “I’m shocked that [MSNBC president] Phil Griffin is condoning it. I’m a little surprised it’s coming from Melissa Harris-Perry because she ought to know better. They focus entirely on race and calling racism where it doesn’t exist, and it’s time for the liberal community to call them out,” Meyers said.

    “It’s ideology. I believe that Melissa Harris-Perry and Michael Eric Dyson and Toure and these folks who are supposed to be the representatives, the so-called voice of the African-American community, are a strident errant voice. It is so ideological and so radical and I’m surprised that it’s becoming mainstreamed on MSNBC. There are responsible African-American voices but you never see them on MSNBC and you barely see them on CNN.”

  139. Thank God for kids like your daughter. For real Rutherford…..thank God for her.

    By the way…I don’t have a problem with kids or parents questioning grades. Dude…they demand grades.

    I hope I’m not painting a picture where I’m walking around all pissed off at work. I’m not like that.

    Its all and all an easy gig if you don’t give a fuck about the big picture

  140. R’s daughter being able move past all of the negative liberal influences at home is a testament to her intellectual abilities. :lol:

    Oh I pray she’s rebellious enough to permanently reject he parent’s liberal bent. It would be just. :smile:

  141. Gorilla,

    I hear what your saying. Both the Public School I now work at and the district I live in are highly rated. So…it makes it a tough decision.

    But…. witnessing the all boys Catholic academically and athletically was an eye opener ……man…..I’m telling you…..its impressive. And being fully aware of how the sausage is made in even good schools when it comes to the school “grades”…..I don’t know.

    The culture is totally different. Some of this might just be a personal preference thing that is unquantifiable.

  142. I think that whole MHP apology was so contrived to be laughed at. What did it take? Four days to get the point of the groveling, sniveling shit so wail for forgiveness?

    Sorry, I ain’t buying it – she should be scorned and her career should be over – not fired – scorned.

    Oh, this piece of trash was sorry and the crying was real. But not for the reasons she gave while she cried. That was baloney, easy to see thru. Because MHP is fraud, a race hustler, and racialist who markets in the worst of accusation and double standard.

    See, I still believe the MSNBC hosts are the absolute most despicable people on earth. But there comes a point even political ideologues like Rutherford can’t stomach watching children and their adopted families be mocked, even if it was the Romneys, lily white and hated by black ignoramuses who never experienced real love.

    All but the lowest of libs would not defend this shit.

    No, MHP was busted for phony, conniving bitch she was because her supported slithered away. And when she looked behind for minions to attack and cover her stinking flesh, they were cowering because even the attack dogs of MSM didn’t have their backs.

    Like Alec Baldwin correctly asked, “Do I get my job back if I cry?”

    MHP a human piece of filth, marketing in strife for personal wealth, and an untalented character assassin. Don’t be fooled by the tears. She’s a black pawn to sell hate for an unwatched network – too stupid to realize, they’ll sell her out one day when her act grows old.

  143. The culture is totally different. Some of this might just be a personal preference thing that is unquantifiable.

    Was for us – and it is more innate than quantifiable. Call it a gut feel. My wife and I most definitely wanted our children to have daily reminder of the importance of the unseen. And it has served them well.

    I’m sure Gorilla’s kids will get a good education, because I am sure Gorilla and his wife involved parents – and that is the real magic of any kid’s education, public or private. It’s the parent’s responsibility to stay on top of the situation.

    Mine did not in my formative years, when I needed it most. I rebelled, went through the motions, and it haunted me for the remainder of my adult life while I played catch up in college.

  144. What is it with liberals and people’s kids? They do that kind of stuff all the time. Weird.

    Remember Rutherford going on and on about Palin’s kid, even questioning if it was hers. Oblivious to the fact that the topic of discusion as a whole is weird as hell.

    Oh…but she is about family values…..or is proud of her family….she deserves it.

    They even brought up Cheney’s daughter in the debates, revolting most of America.

    I don’t know why…..but that is one thing I haven’t seen conservatives pundits do.

    Gore’s kid….Biden’s kid….

    Who posts a picture of someone’s little kid national television and mocks it for 5 minutes.

    Didn’t McCain do it once?

  145. “Well I don’t know what family health issues are effecting Liz Cheney but I’m glad she’s out of the Wyoming race. I would have preferred to see Enzi beat her ass but at least we won’t be seeing her in the Senate.”

    Yeah, because it’s your business who someone else selects to represent them in the senate.

  146. I’m watching something called the Ed Show on MSNBC. Holy shit I feel brain cells dying.

    It really is an absolute echo chamber.

    Fox at least will frog March some odd ball liberals in and argue with them.

  147. “I’m watching something called the Ed Show on MSNBC.”

    Rabbit back away slowly and don’t make any sudden movements. Try to avoid eye contact as the Ed will take that as a sign of aggression. If the Ed charges you – DO NOT turn and run. Crouch down and the Ed will run past you.

    rabbit don’t be a hero.

  148. “Such an experiment is impossible but I do wonder what would happen if every child were left to come to his or her own conclusions.”

    I read Tigre’s #172 as a terrific response to this, though I’m not entirely sure you meant it that way, ET.

    In any case we teach our children accountability. When they reach the age of reason they come to their own conclusions.

  149. Speaking of Star Wars…..I think I screwed up. I remember going to see the first Star Wars when I was 4.

    My boy is 4 now and I figured he would be OK to watch it. Now, take in mind that I don’t really let him watch anything with violence in it, including those super hero cartoons. (Although, for some reason we do watch hyenas and lions tear shit up on Animal Planet).

    Any ways….Empire Strikes back was the one that happened to be on TV so we watched it together over a series days. Big mistake. While my boy was enthralled with the action and lasers and shit, he seems really bothered about the whole Darth Vader is Luke’s father bit. The concept has disturbed him. He keeps talking about it.

    Dad’s can be evil motherfuckers?

    Damn it!

    I went ahead and showed him Return of the Jedi where Vader stops breaking bad at the tale end of the movie. That did seem to help. But nonetheless, I sense a disturbance in the force. A small chink in my armor of infallibility.

    Stupid dark side.

    I also, upon being asked point blank, told him the tooth fairy is fake. I just couldn’t help it. This parent at conferences told me I should have simply responded with “what do you think”? I think he might be right. In other words I didn’t need to shit on his parade. (Evidence of Rabbit narcissism…I talk about my own kids during conferences).

  150. Folks, I’m gonna be off the blog for the next few days. My Dad is dying. He’s expected to pass tonight.

    Thanks in advance for your kind thoughts. As pathetic as it sounds this blog kept me from going crazy after my layoff and you all have been part of that.

    I’ll be back in a few days.

  151. That’s pretty heavy, Rutherford. I feel for you. Hard to carry, for sure. I pray for peace that passes all understanding over you and your dad. Strength and comfort to the family, I pray.

  152. Dead Rabbit @ 162. I saw a great explanation of the American school system on another blog:

    It’s like a giant school bus, where the driver has a brake and an accelerator pedal.

    The bus is filled with passengers: pupils, parents, administrators, teachers’ union, service personnel union, parents’ lawyers. All these passengers each have only a brake pedal; should ANY one of them get their knickers in a twist – to the least degree, about ANYTHING, they can jam on the brakes and the bus slides to a halt. Notice the teachers themselves are not on the bus. They have no power of any kind.

    So the only way the system can move from day to day is completely without pissing off a single passenger. That means that no matter what happens, the administration takes a shit on the teacher and moves on.

    Sound about right, DR?

  153. Rutherford, I am sorry to hear that your father has passed on. I’m sure you have many fond memories that will comfort you during this time. May this time be a celebration of his life rather than a mourning for you and your family.

  154. I left my own condolences to Rutherford on a personal note. So I will only say I am sorry here publicly for Rutherford as I would be any of you, and I think everyone can agree, political and theological differences aside, that any parent would be proud to have raised a kid like Rutherford – even if “R” is a flaming lib. :twisted: I believe Rutherford provided his dad the best gift a child can give a parent.

    He honored his father.

    Parker is right. Losing a parent leaves you feeling surreal. It’s as if a part of you dies with them when they are gone and things are never quite the same. Especially around the holidays.

  155. Hell yeah Rutherford’s Dad died a proud man.

    Forget how Rutherford talks it, he walks like I want my kids to when they grow up.

    There is no way Rutherford could be the way he is without his old man.

  156. Pfessor, ‘

    That is a great description. The only thing I would had is the bus gets 2 miles per gallon.

    And 60% of the teachers cheer the bus when it goes by.

  157. Rutherford – Sorry to hear of the loss of your dad. My condolences to you and your family. Losing one’s parents is like the last step in growing up. You are now the head of your family. Very scary! I lost my parents in my 30’s.

  158. Something weird happened after my father died at age 95. His mind was sharp, but he needed 24 hour care at our home in his last year. Then, he was in the hospital. He wanted more than any thing to help our children celebrate their birthdays and to help with one more harvest.

    He watched our daughter turn 14, and our son 16 two days later. in July, He laughed about our son’s being a potential menace on the road “now” that he could get his drivers license. My father died two hours after midnight on the next day.

    That September, it was dusk, and my wife and children were still at school. I drove forward to attach the bean head to our combine. A man stepped from the brush and began waving his arms to direct me forward to line the combine with the bean head. His manner looked familiar.

    After the bean head was attached, I climbed from the combine to tighten some connecting bolts and to visit with the neighbor who had stopped by. But no one was there. I had imagined the whole thing.

    A week or so later, I was combining beans around midnight five miles from another human being. As I approached the end of the row, dust lowered the visibility. I missed having my father remove bean straw from the bean head as he had done, but then I saw “him”, a shadowy figure in the dust with his hand on the bean straw.

    A month before my father died, he was in the hospital. He slept near my wife and me, and I got up in the night to help if he needed anything. He would cal “JIM” for what ever it was. In the wee hours, I heard JIM so loudly my wife woke up too. Our children came from down stairs because they also heard it . Of course, my father was in a hospital 16 miles away.

    Several years later, when our children were in college, I was combining at home around 11PM.when a light appeared on the lane.In later years, my father had walked down the lane for exercise and to check our harvest progress after he quit for the night.I thought my wife was bringing me a sandwich since the light stopped directly ahead of my. When I reached the lane, no one was there. I told my wife, and she said I was seeing things. I saw the light on another year.

    One night, my wife was riding in the combine with me, and I said “I told you so” because she saw the light too.Our daughter was home from college for a weekend a year of so later. My wife was riding with me, when we saw a light bobbing down the lane. We assumed our daughter was bringing sandwiches as she often did. We couldn’t explain the second light about forty feet behind the first.

    We asked our daughter who was at the house with her. “No one.” Then who was carrying the lantern right behind her? She went white.

    I think our minds played tricks on us as they replayed what was familiar. But what if I am wrong, and my father was actually looking after us for a while. Rutherford, your dad may still be looking after you. He’s probably gone, but the remote possibility that he might be watching may comfort you as it did us.

    I have been home alone because of the cold and the danger of leaving space heaters unattended. A pipe froze and is leaking. My grand parents built our Sears Roebuck house over a hundred years ago, and they raised five children here. My aunt who sold the house claimed she could hear her dead parents talking at night. Another aunt said any ghosts wouldn’t frighten her because only our family had lived in the house.

    Our dog and I are over two miles from the nearest human, and if any family members are watching me, I don’t feel it.

  159. My Grandpa visited me in a dream the day after he died to say good bye. The only dream I remember from childhood. He gave me a hug and I cried and told him I don’t want him to leave. He told me everything would be OK.

    I’ts amazing how the mind will act on its own to help you out, sometimes.

    Funny thing is when I think of all the crazy memories I have of my Grandpa (he owned a bar and a liquor store in the Hood) the first thing that jumps in my mind is that damn dream.

  160. That’s a spooky story, James. Would make for a good movie. I’ve never had an out of body experience, a visit from a loved one, even a vision that I was cognizant.

    About as strange as it gets for me is to have a premonition I am to meet someone that I have been thinking about. Happened 15 years ago, with a guy named Jeff Wilson who I was not close to, or even particularly liked. But he had been on my mind for days. And in an off the beaten path, of an industrial complex, on the sixth floor of a mostly empty building of empty offices, in a city 100 miles away, I heard the gravelly voice. And he rounded the corner.

    And that has happened before to me. It’s as if I sense I’m in proximity of people. Weird.

    The strange thing for me is I seldom even dream of family and seldom of friends. What dreams I do remember anymore are more acquaintance, or missing a test, or forgetting to drop a class and not realizing it to the end of the semester. I woke up the other night in a cold sweat, trying to remember what day my chemistry class was, realizing I hadn’t been in attendance in months, and knowing I had missed the last few tests. And sometimes I dream of doing the dirty with some stranger, but something always interferes along the way or I wake up with this horrible dread I finally committed the act of adultery. :oops:

    I talked to “R” tonight in a letter. Considering the circumstance, he seemed in good spirits – even still had his twisted sense of humor with an Obama mention.

    Apparently Rutherford’s father and I shared at least one rock solid, core value – about Barack Obama. :lol:

  161. I remember only one dream from childhood, Rabbit. And to this day, I still remember it so clearly. I had to be at least 12.

    It was about the Coming of Christ, as I saw Him descend from the clouds. The earth shook and lightning flashed just like the story from ‘The Revelation’. Scared me so bad, I actually woke my mom up and we talked about life and death. I will always be grateful to my mother for that night.

    And the ironic thing is, my oldest daughter had the same dream, about the same age, with the same vision and story. My wife and youngest daughter were gone that night for some reason. Daughter #1 woke me up, told me the dream and it could have been mine. Speaking of deja vu. I have often wondered if children’s brains are somehow hardwired like their parent’s brains because of that occurrence, the age, and the similarity of detail.

  162. I should add that I had not seen Jeff Wilson in at least 20 years in that first story above and we were nothing more than fraternity brothers in an otherwise forgettable period of time. That’s got to more than coincidence…

    Figure we are all connected in ways we don’t yet understand?

  163. Very interesting. I read that so called visitations of dead loved ones in dreams or otherwise are not uncommon. I also think it might be possible for us to transfer vague genetic memories or or attitudes toward the next generation. It would have good survival value.

    Crows, for example, don’t forget the scientists who tag them for research. They somehow communicate their fear and hatred of specific individuals to other members of the flock and to the next generation,

    Another thing about my father was his near death experience. I was hauling corn when my wife came out with the cell phone. She said my father had died and was on life support. I talked to the doctor who advised me to let him go. He would probably be in a vegetative state. My wife said the same thing. I called my brother at work, but he said he agreed with whatever I decided.

    My father had told me he wanted to be revived in spite of the earlier pressure medical staff had put on him to change his mind. I didn’t want to betray his trust in me, so I told them to wake my father.

    An ambulance took him to a larger Sioux City hospital, and we beat it there because a tire had blown out and sent the ambulance into the median. As we passed it, I joked “there’s Dad.”

    I was in the room when he woke. There were so many tubes that it was hard to see his face, but we locked eyes, and I knew my father was still home.

    Later, he walked down the hospital halls each day for excercise and flirted with the nurses. They called him a fine old gentleman.

    I asked what happened when he explored the edges of death because we have all heard of near death experiences. My father was a rational man trained as a mechanical engineer who gave up his career plans to save the farm after an auto accident killed his father.

    Had my father seen a vision or visited with angels. “No,” he said “there was nothing.”

    On the other hand, my aunt said my grand father was scheduled to attend a board meeting of a drainage district, because he was a board member. My aunt said he couldn’t sleep that night because he had a premonition that he would die after the meeting. He did die the next evening at dusk in a cold rain when an old man didn’t see him in time and hit him.

    Do any of you write the stories of your experiences? They might help the younger generation someday.

  164. I’m stretching a point, but I think Kerli- The Old Times Youtube video can apply to the discussion. She grew up in Estonia and attempted suicide with a pair of rusty scissors. She said she stopped cutting when she realized her inner pain was greater than what she was inflicting on herself.

    Now, Kerli is a pop singer living in Los Angeles.

  165. My father died when I was 18, some 38 years ago. Mom went to the stable where he kept his horse to see what was keeping him and came upon his body. He had had a massive heart attack. He was 41 at the time. When I hit 42, I sighed in relief, almost like it was some major feat of survival. Being a firstborn child, I’ve often felt I was paving the way of sorts. I’ve had a few dreams over the years that dad was in. The guy never ages. lol. I hope to see him again, as we have lots to catch up on. He never met my wife or any of his grandkids.

    Dreams are interesting things. I have a journal where I have written many down and some have been premonitions. On several occasions I find myself in a situation that I realize I have done this before and it was a dream I had experienced. It is neat when you realize that in the midst of it and then know what will happen next. Once I even purposely changed things to prove to myself I could. That was a weird and almost scary experience.

    Sometimes I wake up in the morning with a song playing in my head or a specific person on my mind. Sometimes I wake in the night with someone or some situation on my mind. Anymore it prompts me to pray it through and then I’m generally back asleep. Occasionally I will get a confirmation from someone of an event that coincides with the time.

  166. This is how Rutherford’s buddy Chris Christie plays….

    “(CNN) — E-mails emerged on Wednesday purportedly from top aides to New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie bolstering the case that access lane closures to the George Washington Bridge were borne from a political vendetta against opponents of the governor, and were not the result of an incompetent traffic study as his administration claimed.
    [...]
    On the second day of the lane closures, at 8:04 am, Sokolich sent a text to Baroni. “Presently we have four very busy traffic lanes merging into only one toll booth. … The bigger problem is getting kids to school. Help please. It’s maddening.”

    Seeing that text, a person whose name has been redacted from the e-mails and text messages writes to Wildstein: “Is it wrong that I am smiling?”

    “No,” Wildstein responds.

    “I feel badly about the kids,” the unknown person writes.

    “I guess,” he or she adds a minute later.

    Responds Wildstein: “They are the children of Buono voters.”

    Barbara Buono was Christie’s Democratic opponent in the gubernatorial election that the governor won handily in November.”

    Why do I get the feeling that underneath the ink of that redaction is the name “Chris Christie”?

  167. “…or missing a test, or forgetting to drop a class and not realizing it to the end of the semester. I woke up the other night in a cold sweat, trying to remember what day my chemistry class was, realizing I hadn’t been in attendance in months, and knowing I had missed the last few tests.”

    Tex we even dream the same dreams. :lol: Do others have this very dream? I’m wondering if it isn’t about that “catching up” you talked about earlier in the thread regarding your parents losing track of you when you needed them to be on top of things the most. Something similar happened to me – through no fault of their own and due to one child needing much more of their resources than the rest of us – and I too played catch up in college. And I have those very dreams, just like you described.

    I had a most vivid dream recently that a really large bear – like a brown bear or a kodiak – was lumbering in my direction on a dirt road in a wooded area. I knew I wasn’t supposed to run and so I tried to veer off the road unnoticed. Suddenly this prey animal – seems like it was a cross between an elk and a cow – is running at top speed past me and I see that the bear is chasing it. I look around at the thin tree trunks and sparce brush and then off in the distance I see a high chain link fence enclosure of some kind – and I think that I can climb that fence while the bear probably can’t. But it’s too far away for me to get to if this becomes a foot race.

    So I turn back to see the bear has stopped chasing the prey animal and is sniffing the air. And I have this sickening feeling that that the bear is about to look right at me and the only thing I know for sure is that I’m not supposed to run. I remember the sensation that came over me that I’m probably about to be mauled.

    I woke up just then feeling as afraid – physically terrified – as I’ve ever been.

    I spent the next few days reading about dreams and bears. :)

  168. Drifting into class at the end-of-the-semester exam when you realize you forgot to go all semester is very, very common dream.

    Ditto “super baby” dreams for new parents: the baby can suddenly run all over the house on two legs and is getting into all the cabinets and behind the fridge.

    Ditto automatic cars that drive themselves.

    Ditto flying dreams where one begins to run faster and faster and suddenly realizes he can intermittently pick up his legs, then retract them completely like a landing gear, and fly. All very common.

    Ditto dreams about lost loved ones, where one realizes — inside the dream — that something is wrong and that the person is dead – thence realizes it is a dream.

  169. I’ve dreamed I am in college and have forgotten to attend a class or take the tests. I have also forgotten the location of my dorm room. Variations of such dreams seem to be common.
    One is that I realize I have forgotten to plant a field of corn or soy beans.

    Sometimes, I dream I am back in the Air Force. or that my parents are alive.

    A few years ago, when I had a high fever and was on the verge of pneumonia, I relived our wedding day and my taking our daughter to college

    I have learned I can control some dreams. I certainly would have tried to control that bear.

    Gov Christie is probably dreaming about traffic jams tonight.

  170. Coast to Coast and other sources tell us some water near San Francisco is much more radioactive than normal. The source may Japan’s wrecked nuclear reactor.

    “Radioactive” by Imagine Dragons seems appropriate. “I’m radioactive…Its a revolution, I suppose.This is it, the apocalypse.I’m waking up I feel it in my bones. Welcome to the new age.”

  171. I have a oh fuck I’m back in the military and my wife is gonna kill me dream about once every 4 or 5 months.

  172. Happy Marc Lamont Hill, Phd – idiot extraordinaire, making excuses for the indefensible. If it’s not thug culture, what is it? Child abuse, pure and simple.

    And Happy Marc thinks this is unique? I guarantee there is a high occurrence going on in every demographic.

    In fairness, I’ve witnessed deplorable behavior from white trailer trash – perhaps not to the egregious degree here – doing much the same thing, as if their kids live in a bubble and don’t see and hear to learn.

    I know one time I went off on a rant when my youngest hit a new car with a broom and Mrs. Taylor went ballistic on me. Looking back, she had every right to be disgusted with me. If she’d been any bigger, she should have knocked me out.

    Anybody know when thug became affiliated with racial overtones?

    Marc Lamont – smilin’ cracka hater.

  173. First thanks to all of you for your good wishes.

    So between death and funeral you don’t mourn 24/7. There’s still time for politics and I HAVE to share this.

    The Christie fiasco fascinates me for the following reason. MSNBC is covering this all night every show. Is it because they are truly outraged by the traffic snarl? Of course not. They want to knock out the ONLY Republican who is polling to beat Hillary Clinton. It’s so obvious it’s embarrassing.

    But here’s the rub. A lot of conservatives including several of you guys think Christie is a RINO so they’re basically saying “MSNBC have a field day! ”

    Maybe I missed it but where’s the outrage here on the board that Christie has been accused of killing a 91 year old woman? I thought you guys hated that kind of liberal hyperbolic propaganda?

  174. Maybe I missed it but where’s the outrage here on the board that Christie has been accused of killing a 91 year old woman?

    Maybe because the family of 91 year old woman already said the charges were bogus?

    It’s probably cause we’re all so used to MSNBC representing Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap, we’ve all become accustomed to ignoring the continual claptrap.

  175. A perspective appropriate to your comment:

    For those that think we should not criticize wrong doing in the Christie administration because it will lead to Hillary, you are wrong both on moral and strategic grounds.

    We cannot act like Democrats who seek to whitewash everything done by Obama, because we act on principle and we have to stand for the law and the Constitution, that’s what we should be about.

    Moreover, what we say matters in calling out Democratic wrong doing because the media is complicit in covering it up. Yet, what we say as to wrong doing as regards Republicans matters almost not at all, as the media will track down, blow up and exploit any wrong doing by any Republican, no matter how small. What we say matters not strategically, it does matter what we say morally.

    If, with the election over two years away, you believe that he is the best and there are no other choices, then yes, we are truly in trouble if that is all we have. Strategically, the media was setting him up to be the candidate in order to knock him down.

    I’d rather be right in every sense of that word. Right, done right, is embracing, as was Reagan. Reagan never allowed the Left to pigeonhole him, as the Left has done to present day Republicans with the “evil white male racist women haters club” refrain. That refrain sticks, not because of truth, but because a lie repeated often enough, not properly refuted, stays.

    We have over two years, we need to get on the horse now and pick the best candidate out there….

  176. Now that we have your attention, allow us to explain. Governor Chris Christie apologized to New Jersey on Thursday for aides who closed traffic lanes in order to punish a Democratic mayor, and he fired a deputy chief of staff. We mention the IRS because Mr. Christie’s contrition contrasts so sharply with President Obama’s handling of the tax agency’s abuse of political opponents and his reluctance to fire anyone other than a military general for anything.

    Assistant editorial page editor James Freeman on leaked emails suggesting the New Jersey governor’s top aide caused traffic problems for political gain. Photos: AP

    In his long press conference in Trenton, Mr. Christie was properly contrite, saying he had been “lied to” by the senior aide he proceeded to fire. He also said he is withdrawing his support for his former campaign manager to run the state Republican Party because the man had shown “callous and indifferent” behavior toward the people inconvenienced by the traffic-lane closures. If Mr. Christie really didn’t know about this cheap exercise in political payback, and nothing new emerges, the incident shouldn’t interfere with the Governor’s expected presidential run.

    That doesn’t mean Mr. Christie shouldn’t learn from the experience. One lesson is that he’s going to have to upgrade the quality of his advisers as he moves onto the national scene. The traffic-lane-as-vendetta ploy is so dumb and petty that anyone who would attempt it isn’t ready for prime time. Never mind putting it in email.

    Mitt Romney was supposed to be a crack manager, but he surrounded himself with campaign lightweights and he suffered for it. One of Mr. Christie’s selling points for the White House will be that he is an executive who has run a sizable state, so the media will descend on Trenton even more than it did on Wasilla, Alaska, for Sarah Palin. Better to clean out the hack loyalists now.

    Which brings us to the Obama Administration, which quickly leaked to the media that the U.S. Attorney is investigating the lane closures as a criminal matter. Well, that sure was fast, and nice of Eric Holder’s Justice Department to show its typical discretion when investigating political opponents.

    This is the same Administration that won’t tell Congress what resources it is devoting to the IRS probe, and appears to be slow-rolling it. It has also doubled down by expanding the political vetting of 501(c)(4) groups seeking tax-exempt status. Lois Lerner, who ran the IRS tax-exempt shop and took the Fifth before Congress, was allowed to “retire,” presumably with a pension. Acting IRS commissioner Steven Miller resigned under pressure but no other heads have rolled. Yet compared to using the IRS against political opponents during an election campaign, closing traffic lanes for four days is jaywalking.

    We raise this mostly because our media friends have been complicit in dismissing the IRS abuses, and for that matter every other legal abuse during the Obama years. The exception is the Edward Snowden theft of National Security Agency documents, which so far have exposed not a single example of law-breaking.

    Not that this should make Mr. Christie or any other potential GOP candidate complacent. Republicans operate under a double media standard that holds them to a much lower scandal threshold. In that sense the pathetic New Jersey traffic-lane scandal may be, as Mr. Obama likes to say, a teachable moment.

  177. Maybe I missed it but where’s the outrage here on the board that Christie has been accused of killing a 91 year old woman? I thought you guys hated that kind of liberal hyperbolic propaganda?

    I didn’t have to resort to hyperbole to talk about why it is a problem.

  178. @223 Rutherford there really isn’t any rub at all. You think people were all about “ABO” you ain’t seen nothing yet regards opposition to Hillary
    As for Christie all the “conservatives” hate him and will use this episode to bash on him. They are the same people who live in a false utopia and only believe the likes of Palin or Santorum can: “Save the Union”! They are delusional or pollyanna’s or both. I haven’t decided but they are the biggest reason I am not a registered (R) any more.

    You are right about the msnbc/Hillary link though. Remember that just in case anyone has the stones to challenge her. Hillary has been anointed by everyone but the voter but the machine doesn’t care about them

    There are certain realities in politics and those realities hang heavier the bigger the game. People bashing Christie and Romney on their advisors whilst hailing the holy grail of The Reagan seem to conveniently excuse the same. Hypocrisy veiled in false innocence is stupidity.

  179. Unlike Obama, Christie actually fired people.

    Unless we know Christie knew or approved what happened, I don’t think conservatives should be too hard on him. It is possible Christie might be the only politician to beat Hillary. For all of his faults, Christie would be a better president.

    At least some of the folks who think Palin or Santorum are the only ones to save the country would rather be right than elected while congratulating themselves on their ideological purity.

  180. R, I thin it is largely explained by the purpose behind our comments. They’re not the same as yours.

    Incidentally, this shit compared to the IRS being unleashed on political adversaries? MSNBC needs to shut the fuck up. Even its dumbest viewers might start scratching their heads.

    (just kidding)

  181. @ James the trouble with that is that absolutely ZERO of those running for office are ideologically pure. I’ll even up the ante and say that specific to so called conservatives none of them are pure or in touch with basic government realities. The fallacies of the Right and Left are something I am completely done with. Hell its likely the only resolution I can stick to.
    Candidates will forever throw red meat at the various masses. This is mere distraction for deep down the candidates know they are going to be hand tied on any number of the issues.
    For a great example go out and buy a 100 watt incandescent bulb. You can’t. That is not Obama or Bush’s fault. Plenty of pols especially ones on the Right try to make this a plank albeit a minor one in their platforms. It is what (watt lol) it is because of the bureaucracy of government. Show me someone actually doing something about that.

  182. I don’t get the beef some conservatives have with Christie. I don’t agree that all conservatives hate him, but I can’t say that I understand the rigor of some of the remarks made by prominent conservatives (Mark Levin comes to mind). Christie doesn’t strike me as a “great man” with a great mind. But such men don’t seem capable of overturning the tables of the liberal pharisees either.

    BIC I read your article – excellent as usual. One thing that struck me was that it underscores the difference between constituents and fans.

    I thought Christie handled things fine. I don’t give a shit what the drones say either way. I just wish an anvil would fall on Debbiewassermanshultz on principle.

  183. That fat pig’s closest advisers are the kind of people who cause massive traffic jams on purpose. Wtf?

    People are pawns to these assholes.

    I hope his career is over. I don’t think a “I’m sorry” cuts it.

    Even if he didn’t know why the traffic was jammed up, he had to know his advisers look at us as pawns.

    That fat pig can go to hell with Obama.

  184. Marc Lamont Hill is just one more person failing the kid in the video. Good for Don Lemon and good for the woman countering Hill’s nonsense – they have it right.

  185. I’m really neither hot nor cold on Christie. I like his in-your-face style and the butt kicking of corrupted union members delicious; I find the arm-in-arm with the fraud Obama repulsive and deplorable.

    If Christie would have put a fist upside Obama’s nappy head, dunked his scrawny head under the waves, or simply put a work boot up Obama’s ass and broken off the fat foot, I would have jumped off a bridge for Christie, naked. That cavorting with forked-tongued snake is hard to forget.

    My motto is the same as it was in 2009 – anybody but that POS Dimocratic Party and its Marxist affiliation.

    We blew it gang as a country in 2012. There won’t be anybody more qualified than Romney to run in 2016 – no matter the party. Nobody worth a crap is going to subject their own family to Washington Pravda. Ignore Rutherford’s mindless MSNBC parroted tripe. They’re too stupid to come in from the cold, and Rutherford has let his formerly sufficient brain go empty listening too much Chaz.

  186. “But here’s the rub. A lot of conservatives including several of you guys think Christie is a RINO so they’re basically saying “MSNBC have a field day! ”

    Maybe I missed it but where’s the outrage here on the board that Christie has been accused of killing a 91 year old woman? I thought you guys hated that kind of liberal hyperbolic propaganda?”

    I’m still trying to figure out what Rutherford is after.

    We’re not up in arms over msnbc trashing Christie…and? We’re not surprised either. Who didn’t see that coming?

  187. “That fat pig can go to hell with Obama.”

    I’m not sure what to make of this either.

    Color me puzzled.

    Tex, I agree that the country blew the chance in 2012 to do something about a very bad scene. The only question is – was that the last chance. Nothing has happened since to ease my mind on that. Quite the opposite in fact.

    I’m just slowly packing I guess.

  188. “I’m really neither hot nor cold on Christie. I like his in-your-face style and the butt kicking of corrupted union members delicious; I find the arm-in-arm with the fraud Obama repulsive and deplorable.”

    Re: “in your face style” – yea, I agree. I’m with anyone willing to take on the union swamp.

    And I watched part of his presser live and thought “he speaks from the heart.” I’m not talking about his heartbroken sad sack stuff – that I thought was TMI. I just mean he doesn’t seem to be lying.

    It was striking how different he and Obama are in that regard, along with actually taking action. Obama always looks like he’s lying. Period, end of story. Obama’s a cool liar and promotes others for lying for him, but i don’t get that vibe from Christie. He’s not a cool anything.

    The buddy buddy stuff with Obama was sort of blech, you’re right about that. I figure he was just being tactful with someone who makes everybody’s skin crawl (except the msnbc-ites and the fat grannies). I don’t think he meant to negatively impact Romney.

  189. “I must have missed where it had been determined to be factual that there was no stupid traffic study.”

    A “traffic study” is sitting on the side of the road and count cars, the peak hours, timing congestion etc. so to speak. The GW is a b*tch to cross in non rush hour traffic. What did they expect to “study” by forcing three lanes into one? The level of road rage? Whether traffic would back up to the Delaware Water Gap? How many people showed up late for work?

    This was not how you run a traffic study. You notify drivers, the towns, police etc. ahead of time.

  190. Lurker – oh, so the existence of the study isn’t in dispute it’s the stupid way it was done. Or rather that level of stupidity renders the study itself suspect.

    Well maybe now you can see how I would take Christie at his word, yes?

    “The GW is a b*tch to cross in non rush hour traffic.”

    Oh I know it. You’d think I was embellishing if I told you my horror story of one Friday afternoon with the temperature gauge on hot.

  191. No!

    Bridget Kelly – “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee”

    If you consider this to be a proper way to prepare and run a traffic study then I suppose you could you believe CC.

    “Oh I know it. You’d think I was embellishing if I told you my horror story of one Friday afternoon with the temperature gauge on hot.”

    Muffy I would believe every word as truth! I have my own horror stories.

  192. And Lurker makes the point.

    Anybody taking up for Christie???

    Muffy’s observation is fair. She’s not taking up for him. It’s the difference between you MSNBC types and the others here — which is why R is confused.

    If the closing of lanes was planned in advance, then the emails take on a different meaning (i.e. here it comes — ha ha). If not, then they are what they appear to be.

    Excuse making no matter what is what YOU do. No one is defending deliberate bullshit. Give it a rest.

  193. There are things I like about Christie…and things I dislike about him. Ultimately, I think he’s too hotheaded to be the Commander-in-Chief and “Leader of the Free World.” People see him as a “straight shooter”…I see him as a loose cannon. I don’t want him anywhere near our military or diplomacy. Especially with the precedences set by Obama.

    As for this whole bridge thing…while I do suspect he is probably more than just a little bit involved, at the end of the day..I don’t live in New Jersey so I don’t give 2 shits about how he or his staff treats people from New Jersey. They elected him, let them live with the consequences of their election. When his decisions and those of his staff affect me, then I’ll care about them.

    What I do care about is another month of shit job reports, labor participation at a..what…40 (?) year low…and an economy that has completely stagnated under the man who was supposed to lead this country to prosperity 5 years and 2 elections ago.

    I care about health insurance companies saying today that if they ever get denied a bailout that it will lead to single-payer..JUST LIKE WE SAID IT WOULD!!!

    I care about a media that scrutinizes governors and their administrations with more vigor than they use to scrutinize the president and his administration.

    These are the things I care about. Not some loudmouth wannabe.

  194. I care about a media that scrutinizes governors and their administrations with more vigor than they use to scrutinize the president and his administration.

    Huck, I don’t offer much in the way of real commentary like you do anymore, because after Nov. 2012, I gave up on the American people.

    I will drop the pretense of doom for a moment as it going as I projected five years ago, and see if I can muster the energy. Your effort desires to be discussed as you make great argument. You’re one of the few here that still makes effort, because I believe most are disgusted as I am – perhaps even the blog owner.

    If this country isn’t in a malaise, what else would we call it? I meet no one anymore that believes this country on the right path. No one. Not even the Left who is still serious about real discussion.

    ———-

    I understand that we’ve got a federal investigator, who just happens by chance to be a Dim campaign donor, to investigate the New Jersey bridge brouhaha, less than 24 hours after it became a controversy. But we just this week, we had another Dim Campaign Donor assigned to ‘investigate’ the IRS scandal, assigned by an Attorney General that is obviously racist and corrupt – and has no fear to thumb his nose at half the country. It only took over a year to proceed.

    I understand according to media watchdog, our media of ABC/NBC/CBS lent itself 17 times more coverage of Bridgegate in 24 hours than they have the IRS Scandal in about what? 300 days?

    I would be curious if these kinds of events even give people Lurker pause? Perhaps some introspection about how twisted and one sided the application of federal laws have become?

    Because I’m to the point of believing even our laws are assigned by political affiliation now. If that is the case, these are facts that really do require us to split as a country. How can we tolerate for much longer one party being able to do as it pleases, the other held to a different set of rules and standards? That’s not a Republic. That’s fascism.

    If the Republicans should win the Senate in November, it is way overdue to begin impeachment proceedings against Eric Holder for abuse of office and dereliction of duty. Eric Holder has been rotten since long before Obama. The Marc Rich affair clearly showed Holder to be an immoral man.

    As to the economy, it will not come back as long as Barack Obama is President and the Senate controlled by Dimocrats. That’s just the way it is, gang. Private business is going to hunker down because they realize American gov’t grossly inept and there is no faith or trust in its leader.

    What is our foreign policy? Al Qaeda now rules over cities that U.S. military shed blood and won. Sunni Muslims refuse to fight, because they feel betrayed and abandoned by the U.S.. U.S. soldiers feel betrayed because the CiC doesn’t care and called it an unnecessary war; a bad war. Iran continues its march to obtaining fissile material and nobody seems to notice. Russia and China flip America the bird.

    Here’s a stunning fact I heard tonight. In the five years Barack Obama has been President, fully 1/3 of Americans have moved at some time into poverty. And yet these are the same voters that in large part put Barack Obama into his Presidency. They are scared they can’t survive without government assistance. They live in fear.

    But all the egregious sins and incompetence Barack Obama is guilty of and has demonstrated, I believe there is one above all others that is unforgivable.

    Barack Obama, mired in a dead ideology, doesn’t seem prepared to do anything but prolong the situation of despair, offering nothing but platitudes, more division and campaign speak. He is completely devoid of ideas besides trying to equalize outcomes instead of opportunity.

    For millions and millions, the idea of the American dream is dead and they are without hope.

  195. This is not the first time traffic jams have been used for political effect. Al Gore’s adviser who now is helping Hillary engineered a traffic jam to keep Bill Bradly voters from arriving at the poling places in time to vote in the 2000 New Hampshire primary. Gore was irate until his adviser told him most of the suppresed voters favored Bradly.

    Thanks largely, I believe, to Democratic policies, millions of people (maybe 93 million) have left the work force, but we see no upwelling of anger sufficient to change anything. For one thing, many of the unemployed don’t make a connection with Obama’s policies. For another, our network of safety nets is so extensive that most of the unemployed or “disabled” survive pretty well. The Roman’s “bread and circuses” is a winner we use today.

    I fear it may take a violent or voter revolution to change our descent into Hell.Someday, I think enough people say “I’m waking up. I feel it in my bones. Enough to make my systems blow. Welcome to the new age,,,Its a revolution, I suppose. This is it, the apocalypse, I’m waking up. I feel it in my bones. Welcome to the new age.”

    Radioactive by Imagine Dragons describes the public mindset we need. If you want to see a talented wannabe star, Google .Radioactive Imagine Dragons The Macy Kate Band YouTube video, You won’t, but if you did, you would see a nancent music star. She and her band mates have developed a plan to make themselves stars by building a YouTube fan base and making videos their new fans ask for.. They work eight to ten hours a day to research which songs to cover and to practice.

    They now attend virtual high school and have tutors,.

    Macy is only a 14 year old ninth grader, and her band mates are still in high school. Their band is only one of thousands who have learned how to bypass traditional economic and business powers to shape their careers. She reminds me of Rush Limbaugh who said when he was a young teenager, he knew he was born to talk,a and until he found his niche he was just marking time..These kids were born to sing and they are as determined as Rush to fulfill their destinies.

    They give me some hope. What were YOU doing in ninth grade?

  196. “As for this whole bridge thing…while I do suspect he is probably more than just a little bit involved, at the end of the day..I don’t live in New Jersey so I don’t give 2 shits about how he or his staff treats people from New Jersey.” -Huck

    You should care. In my opinion, even if the traffic study was pre planned, some of his closest home boys laughed at our collective misery. I say “our” because I’m guessing there were license plates from probably 30 different states on that bridge.

    He serves the people of New Jersey. Maybe one day serving all of us. Yet, at the very least, we have fool proof evidence his team took pleasure in our misfortune over politics? Fuck him. He’s done.

    Lets see what we have learned in just the last couple of weeks.

    Obama and Clinton admitted that politics was more important then creating a more secure Iraq (big surprise I know). The blood of our warriors took a back seat to their politics.

    Christie’s inner circle took delight in the misery of people they serve. A traffic jam isn’t just an annoyance. It causes a butterfly effect of real damage.

    Kathleen Sebelius unleashed a corrupt web site on people that she she knew was neither functional nor secure because of politics. The misery of the people she serves didn’t matter.

    Obama lied to people of this country countless times so that he get a political win.

    I get that we ultimately deserve who we vote for. I also get some controversies should remain localized. But apathy by us plebs is exactly what they count on.

    We must at least attempt to root out this disgusting political culture in which we the people are sheep to be slaughtered.

    I’m ok with mistakes. I have zero tolerance for these entitled politician assholes that surround themselves with a team that giggle while fucking us over.

    This isn’t Boardwalk Empire. It’s not an HBO series. It’s real life.

    I swear they don’t fear us. They take delight in fucking with us.

    Tammany Hall needs to burn and these motherfuckers need to tremble.

  197. “Maybe one day serving all of us.”

    And then, as I said, I will care.

    The bottom line is, I don’t want him as our president even without the bridge thing, so that has done nothing to change my opinion. That he is vindictive just adds to the attitude that comes from his big mouth.

  198. “There won’t be anybody more qualified than Romney to run in 2016 – no matter the party.”

    Can’t agree. They say Jeb is giving serious thought to it. Then there’s Rubio, Paul, maybe Jindal. I think the GOP bench is pretty deep. The Dems are in big trouble if neither Clinton nor Warren run. That’s all they got.

  199. “I’m still trying to figure out what Rutherford is after. ”

    When they said Romney killed a cancer patient you guys went batshit crazy. So I was wondering why similar hyperbole über Christie didn’t engender the same response, that’s all.

    P.S. My editor popped that German word in there and I decided I liked it so I kept it.

  200. “Yes, our host is a malignant narcissist. :lol:

    It’s funny Tex I had a version of today’s eulogy that I realized was too much about ME and I canned it.

    Narcissistic tendencies? Could very well be. :-)

  201. FWIW while I do find some of the coverage entertaining, I am a bit disturbed by the full court press of MSNBC against Christie. It’s nonstop. All Christie, all the time. Even if the worst is true of Bridgegate, it doesn’t merit this blanket exposure.

  202. Another chapter in your life begins, Rutherford, as the patriarchal yoke makes its transfer.

    The words of our parents never leave us. Often we find ourselves regurgitating them to our own kids decades after the fact. They are ever a part of us as we are of them. It does give nice closure to have mom and dad parked in the same place. I am blessed that my mom is still healthy and we have a very good albeit long distance relationship.

    As for the activity dying down and having to live with a loss of friend and father, I can understand. It especially depresses those that need to have a lot of activity or prefer having others around all the time as opposed to solitude.

    But nothing in life operates in a vacuum. Everything works in concert. When a void opens there are a myriad of fillers at the ready. It will be interesting to read this chapter in our future.

  203. Yes, Rutherford, the hard part comes when all of the mourners have left to get on with their lives.

    Our lawyer who was a family friend worked with me as exececture of my parents’ estates said “You occupy a lonely position, You have moved to the head of the line.”

    260 Rutherford, I have noticed it too. I think they are laying the ground work for Hillary since Christie is major competition.

  204. “Now comes the hard part where all the activity dies down and all you’re left with is one less friend in the world.”

    What a nice thing to say about your dad.

  205. “I am a bit disturbed by the full court press of MSNBC against Christie. It’s nonstop. All Christie, all the time. Even if the worst is true of Bridgegate, it doesn’t merit this blanket exposure.”

    Yes I tuned in to Ms Harris-Perrywinkle this morning. Lovely woman.

    If msnbc didn’t talk about conservatives/Republicans they’d have nothing to say. Nothing at all.

    It’s like they’re dissecting a lower form of life. Like a gathering of serial killers talking about women.

  206. “It’s funny Tex I had a version of today’s eulogy that I realized was too much about ME and I canned it.”

    I would love to hear that version. (Consider that a compliment :) )

    (And a hint….)

  207. Man Rutherford. I know this provides no solace, but I’m envious you are friends with your Dad.

    I don’t have that kind of relationship.

    Don’t get me wrong. There is no drama. But it feels like a job dealing with my old man. Kind of like mowing the lawn without the job satisfaction and relaxation from the hum of the two cycle.

    I have no real bond with my Dad.

    I’m pretty sure its not might fault but maybe it is and I can’t see past myself.

  208. “Now comes the hard part where all the activity dies down and all you’re left with is one less friend in the world.” -R

    Yeah Muffy…that got to me too. The truth is I’m an emotional guy. That was an awesome thing to say about his old man.

    That is the goal. Spend a couple decades being a father so that your son can one day be your friend. Doesn’t get any better then that.

  209. Do you accept your dad, rabbit? One day I realized that I didn’t accept my pa. It was an eye opener.

    I saw the light with one question to myself – What Are You Waiting For??

  210. My father and I were good friends. and better yet, we trusted each other. He gave me life and I saw him into the next world. My mother and I were close too, and we shared secrets, but our relationship was more complex.

    Something weird happened when we took vacations, I was about twelve and watched my dad’s hand on the steering wheel. It was lean, tanned, and muscular with pronounced tendons. About Twelve years ago, I looked down as our daughter and I took one last road trip together,.I realized to my surprise that my father’s hand was on the steering wheel.

    Our daughter and her husband took their honeymoon in Wisconsin. She kept meticulous records of distance driven and what they spent in each town where they stopped. Her husband asked why she was doing it. “OH MY GOD!! i’VE TURNED INTO DAD!!!”

  211. “There’s no time to kill between the cradle and the grave
    Father Time still takes a toll on every minute that you save
    Legal tenders never gonna change the number of your days
    the highest cost of living is dying.that’s one everybody pays
    So have it spent before you get the bill. There’s no time to kill

    If we’d known ten years ago today would be ten years from now
    Would we spend tomorrows yesterdays and make it last somehow
    Or lead the cheers in someone else’s game and never learn to play”
    .
    No Time to Kill

    Clint Black

  212. “My mother and I were close too, and we shared secrets, but our relationship was more complex.”

    I wonder if that isn’t often the way. I was an emotional wreck after my mother died. She and I had a very complicated relationship with deep affection accompanied by anger. When I deferred her medical care to my Dad until it was too late, I blamed myself for her death. She was only 67.

    Today is very different. 99% of anger issues with my Dad resolved before he passed. We’d trade stories about our ailments like two old men. We loved talking about old TV shows. It’s not that we talked frequently. We’d go months with no communication. But it was more what I call social laziness than neglect.

    Rabbit, you’re not necessarily friends after the 20 years of raising. The friendship develops, if it develops, during the next 30 years of both being adults.

    I was so ashamed after all the money and time he invested in me, to end up a low wage AAA operator. But the funny thing is I think he respected that more than the 5+ years I spent chasing the entrepreneurial dream. Go figure.

    The notion that, barring my unlikely entrance into heaven, I shall never see him again hurts right now. I know it will get better but today I’m real raw. I promised myself that I would get through today’s interment cool as a cucumber and I did. But I’m paying the price now.

  213. That was a nice thing to say about your Father, Rutherford.

    Isn’t that kind of true about all our meaningful relationships in life? With my daughters, especially my oldest one, it’s hard to come to grips she’s not my little adoring girl anymore. I’m not even the closest male in her life these days – superseded by the long time love.

    But we sure do have a nice relationship. Somewhere along the way, my little girl went from my little girl to mature, accomplished adult. I’m not sure when that happened. :smile: My joys come from children’s successes. Frankly, I consider my own life pretty irrelevant now. Not sad irrelevant – kind of like you’ve done your duty, finish the course, move on and enjoy yourself for your remaining days. Seize the day, for you do not know how many more you’ve got.

    And after 26 years of marriage, I know realize I’ve never had a better friend in my life than my wife.

    That’s the crappiest part about living if you ask me. About the time you figure out what’s really important, you’re rounding the curve for home.

  214. I know it will get better but today I’m real raw. I promised myself that I would get through today’s interment cool as a cucumber and I did. But I’m paying the price now.

    Then you are human after all. :smile: Huck’s right. It is not the man that mourns that is weak, but the man who refuses to do so.

    ———

    To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

    A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

    A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

    A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

    A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

    A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

    A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

    A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

    What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?

    I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.

    He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

    ————

    At the end of days, a man is ultimately not defined by his career, but the generosity of his heart. Your father provided that generosity to you because he loved you – you being was thanks enough.

  215. My mother had congestive heart failure and near the end, blood didn’t always adequately supply her brain. Sometimes, she didn’t understand why she was staying with us or even that she was in her eighties. At times, she thought she was still living in her teenaged home. She was also half blind with macular degeneration. An eye doctor asked me “Why isn’t she walking into walls?”

    My father had cared for her as best he could, and at 92, he still helped with the harvest.

    We, especially, my wife gave her one last Thanksgiving with most of the family there and with all of the food for which my mother was famous. The family shared old stories into the night, and I taped some of them. Mom was happy.

    My father developed a bad cough, but he still unloaded grain. It was a bad year with a good crop but cold snowy weather. We didn’t finish the harvest that year until April. The next Sunday, my mother and wife came home from church to see my father face down on the floor.

    Doctors thought he would soon die, but he was home by Christmas. We moved them into our house, and coped with several of my father’s emergencies which required fast trips to the hospital. We were sure he would soon die.

    I stopped harvest to take my mother to the funeral of her friend, She wanted to make a cake for me. I took her to the store, and it was like the old days for her.

    Mr father was near death again, but he was rallying. We wondered how my mother would stand it when my father was dead. She had one of her “spells”. My wife had engineered her kidnapping, and I wasn’t much of a man because I was under my evil wife’s control. She threw a plate at my wife.

    Coping with two teenagers, my parents, teaching school, and the harvest was a challenge for my wife. Her own father was dying of Alzheimers. Home Health Care helped, but no one told us my mother’s condition, though we asked. We were sure my father would beat her to the grave.

    My father returned home after his latest emergency,and he was beginning to rally. My wife took me aside and said “I’m drowning.I don’t think I can do this much longer.” Neighbors were planning a wedding anniversary celebration for us within two days.

    The next day, my mother got sick after church and couldn’t keep much food down,We thought it was the flu. I stayed up with her that night, and we watched Star Trek The Next Generation followed with Christmas Vacation.

    The following morning, I measured snow and melted it to report to the Weather Service. When I came in my mother was gasping for breath, so I called the rescue unit. My father felt well enough to be alone, so I sat by my mother for awhile in the hospital after I had called the family.

    Then, I got a call. ER people asked my permission to break into my aunts’ house. I also had medical power of attorney for her. She had missed church and no one had seen her for a couple of days. I drove to her home as they carried her out. My aunt had the flu and had fainted. She broke her shoulder and no one heard her say “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up.”

    I got my aunt checked in and told her my mother was dying. My aunt was 94 and had once taught my 83 year old mother in school. “But she is so young!”

    My mother slipped into a coma, but no one told me what to do about it. I was shocked and scared. I overheard a surgeon brought in say “MY GOD! HOW COULD THEY LET HER GET LIKE THIS?” Later, a doctor told us it was not our fault. No one had told us much. But that didn’t help. My reaction was to save her at all costs.

    My mother rallied as our minister sat with us. she died at 11:15PM, and someone said we could see her. I hurried ahead of the rest and was alone in the room with a woman who resembled one big multi-colored bruise.The doctor ushered me out quickly. I told her she had put up a good fight, and that she was brave. She probably didn’t hear me.

    Welcome to your own private Hell,Rutherford. People will be supportive,and they will try to help, but they can’t change reality.You will live with the loss of your father and the loss of your self as his son for the rest of your days. You will think of something you want to tell your father, and suddenly realize he is gone. As my father said, “everybody dies.” Give it a year or so. You will be fine in the end, but you will be different.

    In a way, Radioactive describes your new situation . ” I feel it in my bones, enough to make my systems blow. Welcome to the new age.”

    Our parents and grand parents coped with as bad or worse, and they survived. You are strong enough to do the same,.You will be a good example for your children.

    My wife and I thought our lives were winding down, but our grand daughter has changed that.She needs us now. I told you about Macy Kate. She and our grand daughter shared some superficial similarities as babies. Wouldn’t it be great to watch grand daughter turn into someone like Macy?

  216. “A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;”

    As though we haven’t been through enough we just gave Dad’s dog to her new owner and my kid hasn’t stopped crying since. Hell we were all crying. Keeping the dog wouldn’t have been right for the dog. She’s 12 years old and I’m not even sure the trip back to IL might not have made her sick.

    2014 can only go up from here.

  217. This one does affect me….

    Remember all that sniveling Christie did about his disaster relief getting held up for a couple days? Remember Rutherford’s outrage over the delay?

    “CNN has learned that federal officials are investigating whether Christie improperly used some of that money to produce tourism ads that starred him and his family.
    [...]
    In the new probe, federal auditors will examine New Jersey’s use of $25 million in Sandy relief funds for a marketing campaign to promote tourism at the Jersey Shore, New Jersey Democratic Rep. Frank Pallone told CNN”

    This line, taken from the LA Times link above, really stood out…

    At another point, he said of Republicans in Congress: “We’ve got people down there who use the citizens of this country like pawns on a chessboard.”

  218. I have been fantasizing about Romney making another run of it in 2016. I know he said he wouldn’t. But if he changed his mind, I wonder if the stigma of losing the last election would keep him out, or whether the predictability of Obama’s failures would make Romney a viable candidate.

  219. You guys, he complained about a system where 47% have no skin in the game. That was so insulting (read second sentence with a lisp for effect ).

    Affect? Effect? I never did learn that one.

  220. Effect is the right one there. Rmoney would be nuts to want to endure that circus again. But then, I suppose they are ALL a bit tweaked. It has to be the power thing. Never underestimate the power of the dark side…

  221. You blokes need to lighten up. Courtesy of Cole Porter, as performed by the incomparable Miss Ella Fitzgerald:

    Love for Sale

    When the only sound on the empty street
    is the heavy tread of the heavy feet
    that belong to a lonesome cop
    I open shop

    The moon so long has been gazing down
    on the warward ways of this wayward town
    my smile becomes a smirk, I go to work

    Love for sale
    appetizing young love for sale
    love thats fresh and still unspoiled
    love thats only slightly soiled
    love for sale

    who will buy
    who would like to sample my supply
    who’s prepared to pay the price
    for a trip to paradise
    love for sale

    let the poets pipe of love
    in their childish ways
    I know every type of love
    better far than they
    if you want the thrill of love
    I have been through the mill of love
    old love
    new love
    every love but true love

    love for sale
    appetizing young love for sale
    if you want to buy my wares follow me and climb the stairs
    love for sale

  222. z like the song.

    Poolman, a week ago, our temperature fell to-16 and stayed below zero all day with wind gusts to 35 to 40 MPH,. We were in a wind chill warning and a wind advisory,Schools closed because of the cold. Our water pipe froze.

    Tonight, temperatures west of us are in the forties with showers and a little thunder., The risk of fire is higher than normal, and we may have wind gusting to 45 MPH tomorrow.

    The wind may reach 50 MPH on Thursday.The wind farms should generate a lot of power this week.,

    I don’t think Romney is another Nixon or Harold Stasson for that matter,. I think he is done. Why should he and his family endure the problems?

  223. Thanks boys and girl for giving me a much needed chuckle with your faux Romney outrage.

    I know you think Double Down is a piece of crap based on the authors but here goes anyway:

    Romney thought looooong and hard about the 2012 run after his unpleasant experience in 2008. One of the driving forces in making him run the second time was that he truly felt he could fix things. As the clown car filled to run against him his conviction only grew.

    At current rate and speed things will still need fixing in 2016 BUT some A-list talent will be running, not second-stringers. That may rule out another Romney attempt.

    Could one of our resident historians refresh my memory? Was it Adlai Stevenson who ran for POTUS like 20 times (I exaggerate) and never won?

  224. Adlai Stevenson I was VP from 1893-97. He ran for pres. in 1896 and 1900.

    His grandson, Adlai Stevenson II, ran in 1952, 1956, and 1960.

    Yes, I Googled it. ;)

  225. Thanks, Huck.

    Tex. It is 32 with a northwest wind gusting to 45 MPH. Maybe we can send it down to you.

    The best to Rabbit’s wrestling son.

    PJ media “Top Secret Benghazi Docs Prove that After Stevens et al Died, Obama and Clinton lied.” I told you Obama should be impeached.

    Did you hear Peyton Manning yell “Omaha, Omaha” in the football game. I didn’t but the city is considering hiring him for a tourist ad.

  226. Huck, can’t wait to find out if that gets political. LOL Back in 2007 a fight almost broke out among my daughters pre-k crowd over the then brewing pres primaries. Teacher had to tell the kids to calm the fuck down, well not in those words. :-)

  227. Can someone who is following the news, as I don’t closely anymore, tell me what in the hell we just negotiated in Iran? What exactly did we get out of this deal?

    All of you know I hold Obama in low opinion. But even I didn’t think Obama would be enough of an imbecile to get rolled by the mad mullahs.

    Laying wreaths on terrorist tombs as a goodwill gesture was the thanks we receive for our leniency?

  228. I haven’t been following that, Tex, since it came out that we say the deal is 1 thing and Iran says it is something else.

    And frankly, with the record of lies by Obama, I don’t know which to believe.

  229. Holy crap Huck. You should be able to become a regular at the H.S. if you tell them you prefer secondary.

    I have no advice for you. Your are screwed! :)

    Good luck and pray nobody shits their pants!

  230. http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/crime-study-no-rise-in-mass-shootings-despite-media-hype/article/254211

    So mass shootings NOT on the rise and most NOT done with a rifle. I’m guessing these cold facts will be ignored.

    Reason 453 why I despise liberalism. Take freedom away and ask questions later. Actually….I just gave them too much credit. They don’t really ever ask questions. Just move on to the next liberty they deem too dangerous for the collective.

    Is there anything more “establishment” and square then a lib? How they pull off the Hipster thing is beyond me.

  231. Rabbit, serious question. Do you think marrying the person you love has anything to do with liberty?

    I’ll grant you this. Give the average lib a soapbox and he will be self righteous as hell. But the same can be said of SOCIAL conservatives.

  232. Tex unless you’re referring to some very recent development, this is what I get out of Iran deal.

    Basically they’ve got six months to prove they have ceased producing weapons grade uranium. WE say they cannot continue refining it. THEY say that is not what they agreed to. What they get in return for demilitarizing their uranium production is an easing of sanctions.

    Congress (with hawks on both sides of the aisle) wants to vote in tougher sanctions to take effect in six months if Iran reneges. Obama admin doesn’t want Congress throwing threats into the mix.

    Bebe says the entire thing is a clusterfuck.

    If anyone has a better version for Tex, please correct me.

  233. Your version sounds about right to me Rutherford. After Obama announced the so called break through, Iran said our side was lying and misrepresenting the agreement. I tend to believe the Iranians.

    The negotiators are branding this agreement as a total defeat for the west, but that may be a maneuver to counter even more radical elements of the Iranian government.

    Given Obama’s record, I don’t know how involved he is. I do remember the Gazabo to nowhere when Obama was an Illinois representative. Lets hope he is merely reading about the negotiations.

  234. I’ve mentioned her before. You can learn a lot by reading Betsy’s Page. She is a history and government teacher in North Carolina.

  235. Pj Media. reports what we already know. The Obama administration put its own wants and needs above the safety of its employees in Benghazi.

    Another article tells us how the “occupying regime” Sami singer Sofia Jannok’s words) wanted to make the sequestration as painful as possible. The article focused on denying aid for rural schools, but we remember how the administration refused to let WW11 veterans visit their monument.

    If the administration and its allies follow the pattern, I think negotiations with Iran will end badly for us. We are screwed, and we did it to ourselves–at least some of us did.

  236. As MSNBC likes to say, Obama has spent his “political capital” a/k/a credibility internationally and domestically. The Iran situation would have an entirely different dynamic if Obama wasn’t such a shameless liar making him so easily played.

    And as Israel’s defense minister pointed, Kerry is just a tool.

  237. “Do you think marrying the person you love has anything to do with liberty?”

    Is that just for rabbit or can I say that If liberty be the goal then I would think that civil unions would have been sufficient.

    “I’ll grant you this. Give the average lib a soapbox and he will be self righteous as hell. But the same can be said of SOCIAL conservatives.”

    Disagree and the key word is “self.”

  238. “The Obama administration put its own wants and needs above the safety of its employees in Benghazi.”

    Even Dianne Feinstein says the New York Times is full of shit.

  239. “Yeah but we got Rouhani to delete a controversial tweet!

    If history the judge of predictability, soon that would be considered another victory by the Obama Administration and called the greatest act of bravery they have ever witnessed by at least two of the Obama cabinet members.

  240. Gorilla, my finger slipped on my iPhone and I accidentally spammed your comment on “regime” and Obamacare. I’ll restore it as soon as I get to my PC.

    The one thing you said with which I whole heartedly agree is start small and move from there. I think you’re wrong to exclude preventive care because it can defray the much higher costs of illness later.

    Now this whole business of contraception being preventive care. Since when was being pregnant a disease? I’ve got some qualms on that one.

  241. As I spend my first full day back home I’m taking in all the brouhaha over Bob Gates new book. Seems like the press is pouring gasoline on a tiny spark.

    I haven’t read the book but it appears that Gates is dismayed by Obama’s ambivalence over decisions that Gates actually agrees with. That’s about the extent of Gates criticism of Obama.

    The folks who really appear to take a pounding are Hillary and Uncle Joe.

    Question for the table: is it wrong to write this book while CIC is still running the war? I could go either way.

  242. My biggest bitch with Gates, who buy the way daughter #1 said was an excellent college President, is why didn’t Gates voice these complaints loudly while holding the office?

    Frankly, I find that kind of gutless.

    Which one of us didn’t know Joe Biden monumentally stupid and Hillary Rotten Clinton a self-absorbed, pathological liar and skunk?

  243. It depends, Rutherford. If someone is self-servingly acting on old grudges, he/she should keep quiet until later,

    If something threatens the security of this country and or lives the person has a duty to tell us.In this case, Gates should have resigned and told us why with flashy documentation.

    Like you, I can go either way.

  244. Rutherford,

    I don’t believe marriage is possible between two of the same sex. I also realize that living in a free country requires I sometimes have to permit people to do things I deem wrong.

    The argument against gay marriage seems to have some “separate but equal” aspects to it despite the fact it boils down to semantics (civil union vs marriage).

    More importantly, I don’t think its a fair for you to compare lying or hiding facts to make an argument (illogical liberal reasons for gun control) to an argument based on a widely accepted moral code ( those against gay marriage).

  245. Its official. Al Queda lead the attack and they knew it wasn’t a movie before that asshole went on the talk shows. Its also obvious our pathetic leadership were and still are more interested in covering their asses for the sake of an election in ’12 and an election in ’16 then getting to the bottom of what happened. Disgusting. Pathetic.

    Rutherford…wtf, man.

  246. Huh? Official from who? I’ve read about the Senate report issued today and I didn’t see anything about CENTRAL al Qaeda leading the attack. The report did say the attack was not spontaneous but was also “opportunistic”, perhaps indicating that with shit going down in Cairo the terrorist thugs saw their chance to make a statement.

    I’ll look for the article I found on WAPO and post a link. It’s a mixed bag Rabbit and not nearly as damning of Obama as his adversaries would like.

  247. One problem I see with the “bipartisan” report is that, like a Supreme Court decision, it isn’t a consensus report but rather a combo of differing takes, influenced by political biases.

    I’d like to see what a truly independent investigation would yield, if such a thing were possible.

  248. LOL…..Jay Carney and Rutherford Lawson. The only two people who give a fuck about the distinction between CENTRAL Al Queda and….uh….Al Queda.

    The President and his band of jackals lied to the American people and remain hidden under earwig infested rocks when we ask where our leaders were that day.

    Rutherford…..you always get pimped. Always.

    I think maybe its all that corporate kool aide you drank for more then half your life. Its just so damn easy for you to intellectually whore yourself. By this point in a man’s life, I suppose its just your nature.

    Go team!

    I used to assume you drooled because of your handicap. Now I know its the drool of an old loyal coon dog.

  249. “R”

    There’s one thing you choose to ignore or ignorant of concerning Benghazi.

    How do protect Obama from the one thing not in question? His self-appointed cabinet was grossly incompetent and he is the boss? Does Obama get a free pass that other leaders don’t get?

    Had this been George Bush and not Barack Obama, you’d have been on this like white on rice.

    This has to be at least the 10th scandal that has either been marginalized or swept under the rug under the Obama Presidency and our obviously corrupted media. From Fast and Furious to the IRS audit, nobody is ever held accountable in the Obama Administration. Ever…And apparently, nothing is ever corrected either.

    I expect the double standards in application. I don’t understand why you turn the blind eye to such fundamental ineptness time and again.

  250. Rabbit the distinction is worth making. When opponents of the Obama regime ;-) talk about Al Qaeda they want you to believe that we have not made progress against the bin Laden lead organization. That simply isn’t true. Just ask any Al Qaeda third in command if you can chat with him before he gets whacked.

    To borrow a phrase from Rabbit you can’t go into that part of the world and throw a rock without hitting a pissed off stinkbeard. These groups are offshoots and loose affiliates.

    So we DID kick central al qaeda’s ass. But we still have a major terrorist problem. If you want to call that a distinction without a difference, be my guest.

  251. I agree with rabbit and Tex about distinctions.

    Obama bragged that his administration had put Al Quiada into full retreat. He implied the terrorists were on the run, It was one rational for not increasing security around Benghazi. Added fire power would cast doubt on Obama’s campaign strategy.

    Other reports tell us Al Qaeda is still very strong,and the distinction between it and its allies is the difference between a Chicago and a Reno McDonalds, Obama’s bradadocio was misleading to win an election,

    Part of the cover up was the lie about the video.

    Where is the responsibility?.
    I’ve heard Hillary has taken responsibility, but what does it mean? if I borrowed your car and accidently wrecked it, would you be satisfied if I apologized, said it was my responsibility, and left without paying you a dime.

  252. Rutherford, go sing your fucking bullshit about important distinctions to the people of Yemen. AQAP isn’t “central al Qaeda” either, but that doesn’t stop us from slaughtering innocent people there while we try to drone that AQ franchise.

  253. I think we need to have Candy Crowley send Rutherford the rose garden transcripts of his boy, Obama, saying Benghazi was a terrorist attack.

  254. Within hours they knew it was a terrorist attack. Within 24 hours they knew it was al qaeda. The video played no role in it.

    The distinction is Jay Carney level bullshit. He lied. Susan Rice lied. Hillary lied and hid and acted out in an attempt to scare away the questions. Obama lied everytime he opened his mouth on the subject.

    Evidently their parents didn’t teach them well.

  255. Man…..I came back thinking maybe I took it too far, particularly account of what you have been through.

    Thankfully you still appreciate quality hand crafted insults.

    You are excusing the administration’s bull shit lies about the video and their stonewalling because some people were unfairly hard on the president?

    Can you do me a favor and just quit pretending you care about much of anything then defending the team?

    Dude…the team don’t give a shit about you.

  256. “Obama, saying Benghazi was a terrorist attack.”

    Terrorist does not equal Al Qaeda. But your point on AQAP is well taken. Although even you acknowledge we are actively striking against AQAP.

    Do any of you agree that our practice of having locals protect our embassies/consulates worsened the situation?

    James you are right that Hillary needed to show her ultimate responsibility by doing something, like firing whomever was in charge of monitoring security in Benghazi. To my knowledge no one has paid a price for this. I could be wrong.

  257. I’m not defending anyone. I’m striving for fairness and avoiding hyperbole. Frankly I think its a shame politics has boiled down to teams. An adversarial system only works to a degree. Our society has gone too far.

    On a different topic, could someone explain to me Fox’s slogan “We report, you decide.”? WTF does that even mean? I decide what? Whether or not they’re lying?

  258. It means that unlike msnbc Fox will report on stories that don’t fit the media’s narrative of racism, wars on wimmins, etc.

  259. “On a different topic….”-R

    There we go…..the phrase everyone of your loyal fans knew they would promptly hear in light of today’s Benghazi news.

  260. “The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the ‘devil’ only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism…The country behind this propaganda is the US . . .”

    “Bin Laden was, a product of a monumental miscalculation by Western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally “the database”, was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujaheddin who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.”

    “Al Qaeda” is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. AL-QAEDA was never anything more.”

    http://henrymakow.com/2014/01/Al-Cia-da-is-False-Opposition%20.html

  261. Poolman, we can take it back further. LBJ, a Democrat expanded the ‘Vietnam War because of a lie. Either, he know the Gulf of Tonkin attack was bogus, or like Obama, he wasn’t paying attention.It was a dark night, and a nervous sailor fired at shadows. Others fired. They were attacking themselves, if what I read from an eye witness is true.

    Our government micro- managed the war and refused to counter the enemy with anything like the counter insurgency surge we used in Iraq. We did have a surge, but we built up pressure gradually which gave the Viet Cong time to react and adjust. It was like giving a person an inoculation against a disease.

    Nixon took us out with the promise that we would continue to help the South. Democrats seized their chance during Watergate and stopped aid. We left people we promised to help to suffer at the tender mercies of the winners.I’ve met some of them.

    The Soviets were embolden as our demoralized military and country retreated. They created local uprisings across the world. They invaded Afghanistan Jimmy Carter, said I think,that the Soviets had fooled him, and that we needed to stop them. I think he finally began to rebuild our military forces, and we also boycotted the Olympics held in Russia.

    Muslm extremists took control of Iran, in part because of Carter’s policies, and they held our people hostage.

    Reagan didn’t have the resources or the national will to mount a military offensive in Afghanistan or the Middle East. He used surigates. One was Muslim insurgents who hated the Soviets. People like Osama beat them, but then they turned their attention to us.

    Liberals gave us Al Quiada. I’m overstating it, but much of the blame lies with them.

  262. “Liberals gave us Al Quiada.”

    That made no fucking sense. You wrote that right after you wrote that Reagan gave us Osama, the LEADER of Al Qaeda.

    Please explain. My brain is hurting.

    Also could you explain which Carter policies inflamed the Iranian nutjobs?

  263. Rutherford the confusion clearing blast is in the details. First one should not confuse Mujahadeen with AQ and jihadists who only pursue power based in Islam. The Mujahadeen ,based in tribalism,actually had deeper and more layered loyalties. The Taliban kind of falls in the middle of these two groups. Islamist to a fault for sure they also recognized a level of sovereign rights akin to national interests we in the West readily promote daily.
    This doesn’t discount the regional influences though such as Pakistan.
    The history of the Soviet invasion was actually not the Red v West thing we have been fed. The Soviets had internal factors since the 1940’s that dictated domestic policies regard relations with the ‘Stan’s with a cyclical focus with Afghanistan specifically.
    The USA (read Reagan & neo-cons) response was classic red scare stuff with a steroid level. I could concede a degree of some human rights stuff as well but that seems more an outcome/ un intended consequence kind of thing.
    As for the USA creating Islamist factions worldwide for chaos,I can’t swallow that one. Again we overestimate our own importance in matters we don’t fully understand. Iran for example is a place we helped fuck up but that wasn’t our creating Islamist factions,it is more our complicity in Ajax. The USA seems to be stuck in 1979 regards Iran just like we were stuck in 68-72 regards Vietnam for the longest time. This is emotionally understandable but Realpolitik FP stupidity. Case in point the UN invite disinvited Syria talks thing. FUCKING IRAN are the ones that are right regard Syria. Cue us yet again overestimating our importance…..

  264. @ huck and James. I don’t share your optimism that A) the dems are on the ropes or B) the GOP is winning on the debt ceiling thing
    The challengers in a number of races will assure (R) losses both in real races and principle.

  265. “the dems are on the ropes”

    I think they are. I also think there will be plenty of Republicans who will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    “the GOP is winning on the debt ceiling thing”

    I never suggested that they were winning. I think I suggested that they lose the messaging that one, which is why now is not the time to take on that fight.

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