Notes from the Fringe

October 14, 2010 at 1:23 am 205 comments

What is it about 2010 that each political headline seems wackier than the previous one? Here are some random thoughts on some random wackiness.

Gay is Disgusting but it Pays the Rent

Carl Paladino, Republican candidate for New York State Governor, has a major problem with gays. In fact, he thinks taking your kid to a Gay Pride Parade is one of the worst things you can do — letting your kids see those queers bumping and grinding. After Carl expressed his disgust in public, he then issued an apology to the gay community. Could it have anything to do with his owning properties that house gay bars? Well I have to be honest here. I find Carl and his antics a breath of fresh air. If we overlook this minor hypocrisy, Carl has so far called ‘em like he sees them, politics be damned. Pundits have remarked that this is a by-product of people new to politics not knowing what to say or when to keep their mouth shut. But seriously, how can you resist a guy who in this PC age, says he finds the gay lifestyle revolting, tells a reporter “I will take you out”, and then asks for your vote in the next breath? Plus, if you close your eyes and just listen to him, it sounds like Andy Sipowicz from “NYPD Blue” is running for office.

Speaking of Gays, We Can Give Thanks for the End of DADT to … The GOP?

That’s right folks, the plaintiffs in the court case that may have ended Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, were the Log Cabin Republicans. How lame can our Democratic run government with our Democratic President be that it took a group of Republicans (albeit gay ones) to put an end to DADT? Well this really should not surprise us too much. President Obama has never done a particularly good job of hiding his disdain for the gay community. Whether it is his refusal to recognize gay marriage or his refusal to use the power of his office to end the practice of DADT, it is abundantly clear that gays offend Obama’s Christian sensibilities. It doesn’t win him any points with the moral majority conservatives because being born in Kenya trumps being a fellow homophobe in their book.

Christine O’Donnell Should be Running Against Alvin Greene

It is plain as day that neither Republican Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell nor Democratic Senate candidate Alvin Greene are in a fair fight. O’Donnell, with witchcraft in her past is being slaughtered in the polls by her challenger Chris Coons. No one has yet figured out how Greene won the Democratic primary in South Carolina much less how he could possibly beat Jim DeMint. However, the two are such priceless candidates that it would be much more fun to see them square off against each other.

On Lawrence “Crazy Larry” O’Donnell’s new MSNBC show, The Last Word, Alvin Greene got his opportunity to speak to the issues. No slick subterfuge from this man. To almost every question Lawrence asked him (like where he got the nickname Turtle), Greene replied “Jim DeMint caused the recession.” Never have I seen any politician so doggedly stay on his talking points. DeMint could learn a thing or two from his opponent. Maybe if Jim stayed on a narrow script, he wouldn’t say dumb-ass crap like gays and single women shouldn’t be school teachers.

Then there is my new sweetheart, Christine O’Donnell. For the past two years I have been criticizing Rich Lowry of The National Review for his entirely penis-based support of Sarah Palin. It took some time but when Christine O’Donnell gave me that sideways look while the pretty music played in the background and she said “I’m not a witch. I’m nothing you’ve heard. I’m you.”, well my readers, my heart went all aflutter. In the space of a few weeks, O’Donnell has made Palin yesterday’s news. She’s pretty without the snark. She’s chirpy without the nagging Palin voice. And most of all, she is truly media savvy. After more than a decade of appearing on TV (mostly on Bill Maher’s old show Politically Incorrect), O’Donnell knows how to make love to a camera. I watched a few minutes of her debate with Chris Coons this evening and I have to admit I liked her. Unlike Palin who is dumb and sounds dumb, O’Donnell might not know jack-sh*t but she sells it. When she couldn’t name a recent Supreme Court decision with which she disagreed, it came off as honest, not idiotic. And when Wolf Blitzer volunteered Roe v. Wade, she reminded him that it wasn’t a recent case. I almost want her to win just so I can continue lusting after her for six years. Then again, several insiders say she’s not in this to win it in the first place. She just wants that contract at Fox News. So, heck, I may get to watch her anyway. (Please keep this between just you and me … I don’t want my wife to find out!)

If Only He Had Been a Confederate Soldier

Rich Iott, running for the House from Ohio made a splash with photos documenting his participation in a WWII reenactment “club” that he and his son bonded over. How could a little father-son bonding be a political football? Well it gets a bit tricky when Daddy plays a Nazi soldier in the reenactment and expresses admiration for WWII Germany as the little country that could. The other night, Chris Matthews used his MSNBC show Hardball to call out Iott and dismiss any comparison of WWII reenactors to Civil War reenactors. Sadly, that is where Chris missed the ball altogether. Civil War rebel soldiers are our Nazi’s, civil war era plantations are our concentration camps and blacks of the day are our Jews. You’d never know this by visiting the South. The last time I was in Atlanta the hotel TV advertised tours of plantations to give us a slice of Southern culture, with no mention of the degradation that went on there. I don’t know which is the greater American sin, the peculiar institution itself or our lack of true shame over our past. Perhaps we need to take a lesson from modern-day Germany which shows its remorse and, in fact, makes dressing up like a Nazi illegal. That’s serious regret. They don’t offer nostalgic tours of Buchenwald.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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  • 1. El Tigre  |  October 14, 2010 at 8:33 am

    Dear Lord, did you just refer to the “gay community.”

  • 2. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 10:08 am

    If you believe the projected polling and Nov. 2 becomes the annihilation predicted, it would appear that the Dimocraps have a well established “Alvin Greene community.” I think Rutherford is unfairly singling the man out and being too harsh. If he wins, consider the company Alvin could keep with these upstanding Congressional member of the “black community”, and I won’t even mention Rep. Charles Rangel or Rep. Maxine Waters. And this is a partial list.

    Representative Sanford Bishop (D-GA):- Under Investigation

    Misappropriation of funds at the Muscogee County Junior Marshal program.

    Representative Corrine Brown (D-FL) – Under investigation for numerous violations, including forged documents.

    Alvin Greene is a Rhodes scholar compared to this moron:

    Andre Carson (D-In) – Received a majority of funding from CAIR – found guilty for funding HAMAS terrorist organization wishing to overthrow U.S. gov’t.

    Jim Clyburn (D-SC) – currently under investigation for earmarking taxpayer dollars to line his brother’s, nephew’s and son’s pockets in Five River’s scandal.

    John Conyers, Jr (D-Mi) Dean Congressional Balck Caucus. – charges and suspicions to numerous to list. :lol: His wife is currently serving three years in prison for bribery.

    Danny K Davis (D-IL) Implicated in the Rod Blagojevich scandal.

    Chaka Fattha (D-PA) Federal investigators announced that they are examining a multimillion-dollar scholarship program founded four years ago by U.S. Rep. Fattah which he abruptly announced he was shutting down. Investigation is proceeding.

    Alexander N. “Al” Green (D-Tx) – accusations of sexual assault of a former employee as well as failure to report $300,000 in campaign contributions.

    Alcee Hastings.(D-FL) a former judge, Alcee Hastings was impeached and removed form office for corruption and perjury.

    Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL) – currently under investigation concerning allegations that in the Rod Blagojevich in attempting auction of Barack Obama’s former senate seat.

    Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (D-IL) – Former Chair of the Congressional Black Caucus and mother of disgraced former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick. under investigation for the now infamous Charles Rangle trip to the Caribbean in ’07 and ’08.

  • 3. Rutherford  |  October 14, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Tex, you’re quite the scholar today. Nice research. ;-)

    In a truly representative government it is essential to have at least one Representative with the speaking skills of Ms. Brown from Florida.

    As for Chaka Fattha, what other Rep has a name that trips so beautifully off the tongue? In fact, wasn’t there a song a few years ago that started, “Chaka Fattha, Chaka Fattha”? Oh, sorry, that was Chaka Khan.

  • 4. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:15 am

    “R”, oh but that was just a start – a very partial list. If you weren’t such a good sport, I wouldn’t have bothered.

    But I think you’re unduly harsh on Alvin. The candidate in Oklahoma facing Tom Coburn is white, looks like he lives on the streets and a “professional” panhandler, and will probably lose by 50 points or so, meaning even in Red State Oklahoma, there are plenty of amoral cowards like Graychin still pulling the straight Dimocrap lever.

    When you’ve got millions of rubes you can still count on, all is not lost for Obama. :wink:

  • 5. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Rutherford, my pal. Will you allow yourself to be “pimped?”, being I find you a talented blogger who just happens to be black, yet has a blog dominated by Whitey? :smile:

    Just teasing. Thought you might find this interesting if you didn’t happen to catch it…

    http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/13/white-house-summit-for-black-journalists-doesnt-stay-off-the-record-for-long/

  • 6. El Tigre  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:28 am

    R, I agree with your comments about the tour de Southern culture. Again, I grew up in Boston. When I first arrived in Atlanta and was referred to as a “yankee” I thought it was a joke. Nope. The term is used in routine discourse. My friends sometimes refer to me as Vinnie (from the movie My Cousin Vinnie) — and after 15 years here, I still feel that way.

    There is a “regional identity” (black and white) on level unlike anywhere else I have been in America. Yeah, there was New England and the Midwest, but no collective identity like “The South.”

    Over time I have found that there are many aspects of Southern culture that are pleasant and rightly a source of pride. But there many that are downright shameful and subject to a strange form of amnesia.

    It is just bizarre that there exists such a selective view of their past that is held out with an such epic nostalgia. And Southerners are notoriously (and actually) thin-skinned when it comes to any form of criticism of what they define as their “culture.”

    I’ve wondered whether the Southerners should hang their heads. Maybe have those tours of the facilities like Nazi concentration camps. I don’t know that it would be better that they did tough. I’ve spent time in Germany (believe it or not, pure fortuity had me there when the wall fell), and the inescapable remorse of generations not even alive during WWII is profound, and in many ways (not all) psychologically unhealthy.

  • 7. Rutherford  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:38 am

    I worry greatly about the so-called black media. There is a show called “Our World with Black Enterprise” and when I discovered it, I was so excited, Here was a show, I thought, that would rival the Sunday talk shows but spend more time on views of black pundits. Boy was I wrong. Stupid show spends way too much time on athletes, rappers and other entertainers. It produces so few shows a year that it is never actually current.

    I guess the real lesson is that as more “mainstream” shows feature journalists like Eugene Robinson, Jonathan Capehart, Clarence Page and Cynthia Tucker the less need there will be for shows that showcase black journalists.

    As for this blog, I’d love to see a regular commenter self-identify as black. Alas, I get neither loyal blacks nor loyal liberals and with the recent passing of our friend HP, that’s one less “left” voice in the crowd. :-(

  • 8. Rutherford  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Tigre, I have to agree with you that it can’t be mentally healthy to be the perpetually-regretful-former-victimizer any more than it can be healthy to constantly play the victim. Some balance has to be struck. As you’ve alluded to, I just find an incredible arrogance in the South … selective amnesia as you say. And even though I know my regular readers here dismiss the notion of black rage and find it unjustifiable, I completely understand black rage in the context of a country that deep down feels little shame for its past.

    The best way to understand this is to compare our reaction to the guy who tells Jews to “get over it” vs the guy who tells blacks to “get over it”. The first person is rebuked as a rank anti-Semite. The second one is considered reasonable.

  • 9. El Tigre  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:57 am

    “I have to agree with you that it can’t be mentally healthy to be the perpetually-regretful-former-victimizer . . ”

    The problem is “who is the victimizer” and who is demanding what from whom.

    Do you consider yourself a victim?

  • 10. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    “R”,

    After guess after Rabbit and I stomped you for dropping the word “racist” less than 90 days into reign from Obama hell, I think one of the reasons I like you “R” is that you allow me to shoot straight about race (for the most part) without getting your feathers ruffled. I appreciate that about you. I haven’t met many blacks that are really interested in talking honestly about race, because there’s always their undying suspicion of malicious intent. I don’t find that in you. Having said that…

    I guess the real lesson is that as more “mainstream” shows feature journalists like Eugene Robinson, Jonathan Capehart, Clarence Page and Cynthia Tucker the less need there will be for shows that showcase black journalists.

    Why is there the continual need to frame everything in color for you? Isn’t it enough that you share the same basic mindset no matter the race? Now I’m being completely honest with Rutherford. Some of the best Conservatives out there, and I wish there were more, happen to black. And here’s the difference I believe between you and me – and please note I’m not taking the superior moral position on account of it. There’s no doubt there is much history for you being more aware of your efficiency of melanin.

    If I happen to come across a black Conservative commentator I like, Thomas Sowell for instance, after the initial pause of recognizing he’s not lily white, after a few moments I’m not terribly cognizant of his race. I’m just grateful there is somebody eloquent speaking for me – I don’t give a hoot what race or creed.

    Even you seem smitten with it.

  • 11. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Great post, Rutherford! So much to respond to. You might have made four posts out of it. The theme of “crazy things that candidates say and do” is just too big for one blog post.

    First: As Tex mentioned in #4, I’m offended that Alvin Greene gets all the attention he does, at the expense of Oklahoma’s own Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate, Jim Rogers. Jimbo defeated a guy in the Democratic primary who was actually qualified for the job.

    http://thegreatspot.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/who-is-jim-rogers/

    It just goes to show that a white man can’t get an even break in 21st Century America.

  • 12. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Second: As I recall, George “Macaca” Allen took a lot of ridicule over his Confederate Army uniform-wearing photos during his disastrous campaign for the Senate in Virginia. But I guess that kind of shit is still considered cool in Virginia. (But – about that noose he had hanging in his governor’s office: not so cool?)

    But a Nazi uniform? That’s just creepy. It used to be that if you’re gonna run for office, a picture of you in a Nazi uniform would be the Kiss of Death. But not in 2010. Tea Party Values uber alles.

  • 13. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Third: Carl Palladino is obviously a completely mainstream Republican candidate who just lacks a bit of polish. Despises gays but takes their money? What’s wrong with that? He’s a successful businessman who would run government like a business. (“Would” is a deliberate use of a conditional tense. Cuomo is going to crush him.)

  • 14. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Fourth: I disagree completely that Obama has “disdain for the gay community.”

    (I see that Tiger jumped all over “gay community” in the very first comment. Good job, Tiger! You’re getting there. Slowly, but you’re getting there.)

    But I digress. It isn’t disdain. It isn’t his “Christian values.” Far from it. It’s timidity, pure and simple. I think Obama would suspend military discharges for outed gays in a heartbeat if he thought it wouldn’t offend Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachmann and Newt Gingrich. And John McCain. Obama sometimes avoids doing the right thing when he sees potential political blowback. He’s the freaking President of the United States! Do the right freaking thing, OK?

    Very few who give a hoot about gay rights are going to vote Republican anyway. (What’s with those Log Cabin people anyway?

  • 15. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Fifth: Although I have had a negative gut reaction to Sarah Palin from the first moment that I heard sound coming out of her mouth, I think that Christine O’Donnell is completely charming. I really like her. She makes me smile whenever I see her, and not because I’m laughing at her.

    I fell in love with her when she pointed out that “you can’t masturbate without lust.” That had never occurred to me. Of course she’s not such a deep thinker, but who else would have made the connection? And the WAY that she said it was just…, well…, HOT!

    She’s a mystery wrapped in an enigma: a forty-year-old virgin (and outspoken about it) who lives with a male Christian-rock musician. A semi-regular on the Bill Maher show before she was famous – for anything! Someone with no visible means of support who is a major party candidate for US Senate. “They do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them.” (At least Jim Rogers is old enough for Social Security.)

    How can you not love the woman?

  • 16. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    Oops – I didn’t close the bold correctly after “Fifth:”

    Sorry about that.

  • 17. Rutherford  |  October 14, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Fixed 15 for you Gray.

    Now to your fourth and fifth comments: I would actually prefer Obama’s gay lethargy be due to Christian values than political cowardice. The latter is ten times worse.

    I’m glad you share my O’Donnell lust. When I saw the first “I’m you” commercial my wife got on Twitter and ratted me out to my internet radio co-host, who then publicly threatened me with bodily harm. :-D While not the sharpest pencil in the drawer, I still maintain that O’Donnell is Einstein compared to Palin. Some folks have cited the “All About Eve” analogy where the understudy outshines her mentor. While Palin sneers “how’s that hopey changey stuff working for ya?”, an example of her true hateful demeanor, O’Donnell kidded Coons last night that he was jealous that he wasn’t lampooned on SNL. There is no denying her charm.

    I hate to say it but if McCain had chosen her as a running mate, we might actually have a different President today …. who by the way, would still not build the dang fence. :-)

  • 18. Rutherford  |  October 14, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Why is there the continual need to frame everything in color for you?

    You know, this is really a puzzle for me. I am literally two people in one body when it comes to this. Half of me wants to see the world color-blind. Half of me believes that color plays into almost everything. Those two halves struggle all the time.

    If you look at my posts and my comments over the years, you will see times when I take a John McWhorter/Bill Cosby approach to race relations. “Stop complaining … stop making babies without daddies …. get a goddam education and a job and change things yourself because no one else will change things for you.” But then there are times when I do see and understand the source of black rage. Not everyone (black or white) is evolved. Those who are not evolved set back everyone else two steps.

    Let’s look at Corrine Brown for a minute and focus only on her speech pattern. It is possible for a woman who wants to help our country, who is not corrupt and who has good ideas to speak poorly. But there are those who would use her speech patterns to silence her. There are those who would use her as an example of black inferiority. Tex, Tigre, DR, YOU might not do that but you are fooling yourself if you believe there aren’t whites who do. (and probably some self-hating blacks who do it too).

    In answer to Tigre’s question. No … I don’t view myself as a victim. The only time I ever engage in self-pity revolves around my career misfortunes where I believe I was treated unfairly … and not due to disability or race but due to a corporate personality clash that i admittedly mishandled. I truly don’t believe that people who feel like victims can succeed. It is enervating. If I ever played the victim, my mother would kick my ass. That’s why even with respect to my layoff three years ago, I constantly harangue myself for what I could have done to better protect myself.

  • 19. El Tigre  |  October 14, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    R, I like your answer.

  • 20. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    “I would actually prefer Obama’s gay lethargy be due to Christian values than political cowardice. The latter is ten times worse.”

    Agreed.

    “Half of me wants to see the world color-blind. Half of me believes that color plays into almost everything.”

    All of me WANTS to see the world color blind. That’s the way it should be.

    ALL of me believes that color plays into almost everything. Someone who thinks otherwise either is willfully ignorant or isn’t paying attention.

    Some of us would see Eric Holder dismissing charges against scary black men, and automatically assume bad faith – that he’s only doing it to “help out some brothers.” That’s why I believe that color plays into almost everything.

  • 21. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 14, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Sadly, that is where Chris missed the ball altogether. Civil War rebel soldiers are our Nazi’s, civil war era plantations are our concentration camps and blacks of the day are our Jews.

    Once again, our host decides to be the example of why the blind should never lead the naked. Comparing the Confederates to the Nazis isn’t just silly, it is offensive.

    The Civil War was a tragedy because it was us vs. us. One nation with a common heritage, political history, and familial ties split asunder on economic and states’ rights questions…oh and slavery to sweeten the pot, too. It pit brothers against each other, split fathers and sons, uncles, nephews and cousins. Many of the generals were classmates with each other from West Point, and many fought for the Confederacy because they loved their homes, not out of any special love for that “peculiar institution” of slavery. To tar them all with the same brush as the unmitigated evil that was Nazism is both igonarant and reveals a knee-jerk method of thinking that does not become you, R.

    And even though I know my regular readers here dismiss the notion of black rage and find it unjustifiable, I completely understand black rage in the context of a country that deep down feels little shame for its past.

    The best way to understand this is to compare our reaction to the guy who tells Jews to “get over it” vs the guy who tells blacks to “get over it”. The first person is rebuked as a rank anti-Semite. The second one is considered reasonable.

    Rutherford, I really do love you in a non-homo way, so I am going to say this as diplomaticallly as I can.

    Piss off.

    Really; piss off.

    With very few exceptions, the Germans and citizens of most of the nations the Nazi’s occupied rounded up their jewish citizens, stripped them of everything…their possessions, their livelihoods, and their citizenship, herded them into boxcars, and shipped them off to places where they were beaten, starved, and experimented on before being systematically gassed and then stripped of their skin to make lampshades, and rendered for soap, looted for fillings, then stuffed into ovens or rolled into mass graves, and there are still a good number alive today who survived these horrors, and when they have been able, they have brought the perpetrators of these evils to justice.

    In contrast, the Civil War ended slavery in the US. 620,000 Americans died in the conflict that ended it. Many of them were just boys. And for a time, blacks enjoyed this emancipation before Jim Crow came on toward the end of the 19th Century. Even so, there were many opportunities in the North and the West.

    The Civil Rights movement in the 1960s killed Jim Crow, and brought the full force of government coercion behind the enforcement of equality, with integration, forced busing, affirmative action, and its idiot cousin “diversity”, and other means of lowering the bar for one group of people. Some have taken advantage of these opportunities. Nothing is thought of the idea of black representatives, senators, cabinet heads, judges and SCOTUS Justices. Blacks read the news on TV, act in telvision shows, movies, and plays. They teach on univerisity campuses and are professional atheletes.

    However, by and large, they still bitterly cling to a cherished victimhood, and an obscene sense of entitlment that goes with it, fostered by the leaders of their “communities”, who constantly bleat the mantra that “their people” CAN’T. That they CAN’T succeed without their guildance and the assistance of Uncle Sugar, both by continuing to keep the bar low, and with all manner of economic entitlements, and of course the idea that the rest of America owes them that because there was slavery here a century and a half ago, when other minorities came, faced discrimination, and succeeded anyway,
    be they the descendants of the Chinese cooleys who built the railroads, the guy from Guadalahara who came here the right way, and made it, or the Vietnamese boat people who came here with nothing but the clothes on their backs and made lives for themselves. Blaming slavery or Jim Crow for how their lives are just doesn’t cut it in comparision. Not with three generations having a path made for them.

  • 22. El Tigre  |  October 14, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212325538.shtml

  • 23. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    “if McCain had chosen her (O’Donnell) as a running mate, we might actually have a different President today.”

    No way, Jose. As a VP candidate, O’Donnell is only attractive because of the obvious comparison to Palin and the whole crowd of Wasilla Hillbillies.

    Nothing was going to stop the Obama steamroller in 2008. Believe it or not, McCain / Palin was probably the Republican “dream team” for that year. Granted, they were a cranky and past-his-shelf-life old man – and a ditsy neophyte who sent a tingle down the legs of “conservatives” of the Tea Party and religious varieties.

    No, the Republicans gave us their best, although it wasn’ very good. I doubt that even the real Ronald Reagan (not the imaginary one that everyone remembers and loves) could have beaten Team Obama in 2008. Obama wasn’t Carter or Mondale.

  • 24. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 14, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Some of us would see Eric Holder dismissing charges against scary black men, and automatically assume bad faith – that he’s only doing it to “help out some brothers.”

    And some of us would be outraged over the double standards. At having “equality under the law” as a guilding principal only to see one of the nation’s highest ranking law enforcement officials not pursue a case for something that would have been a priority had the offenders had a different color of skin. But then, having grown up under these standards, some of us never bought into the concept that some animals are more equal than others.

  • 25. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Received in an email. This is great stuff! :smile: Maybe even Graychin can understand it. He certainly can’t seem to understand what “overwhelming” means, as it Reagan’s two elections he won be far wider margins that Bongo.

    ———————————-

    Wal-Mart vs. The Morons?

    1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart
    every hour of every day.

    2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!

    3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick’s Day (March 17th) than
    Target sells all year.

    4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined.

    5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people, is the world’s largest private employer,
    and most speak English.

    6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the
    history of the world.

    7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than
    Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep
    in mind they did this in only fifteen years.

    8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.

    9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any
    other store in the world.

    10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the
    USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers;
    this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago.

    11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at Wal-Mart stores.
    (Earth’s population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)

    12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen
    miles of a Wal-Mart.

    You may think that I am complaining,
    but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run Wal-Mart to fix the economy.

    This should be read and understood by all Americans – Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!

    To President Obama and all 535 voting
    members of the Legislature,

    It is now official-you are ALL corrupt morons:

    A. The U.S.. Postal Service was established
    in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right
    and it is broke.

    B. Social Security was established in 1935.
    You have had 74 years to get it right
    and it is broke.

    C. Fannie Mae was established in 1938.
    You have had 71 years to get it right
    and it is broke.

    D. War on Poverty started in 1964.
    You have had 45 years to get it right;
    $1 trillion of our money is confiscated
    each year and transferred to “the poor”
    and they only want more.

    E. Medicare and Medicaid were established
    in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right
    and they are broke.

    F. Freddie Mac was established in 1970.
    You have had 39 years to get it right
    and it is broke.

    G. The Department of Energy was created in
    1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil.
    It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with
    a budget of $24 billion a year and we
    import more oil than ever before.
    You had 32 years to get it right
    and it is an abysmal failure.

    You have FAILED in every
    “government service” you have shoved
    down our throats while overspending our tax dollars.

    AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM?

  • 26. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Tiger @ #22, and Black is White (if I say it is ) @ #24:

    Even as disreputable a source (Tiger’s link) as Jim Kouri, writing in the disreputable Post Chronicle stops short of accusing Holder of dismissing those cases to “help out a brother.” But that won’t slow you two down, will it?

    You know, don’t you, that Mr. Coates is the former section chief of the “voting rights” division in the DOJ of the BUSH administration We are all familiar with that playpen, and know about the Gonzales / von Spakovsky commitment to voting rights and to enforcing the laws fairly. And to firing US Attorneys who wouldn’t play politics with prosecutions.

    In short, Holder’s accuser is a partisan hack.

    Ironically, the alleged favoritism being shown to Scary Black Men is NOT politically favorable to Obama. This could have been comparable to Bill Clinton’s “Sister Soljah” moment for Obama. You can get a lot of political mileage in America by ragging on Scary Black Men. You two are Exhibits A and B. And it’s not like blacks are going to start voting Republican in large numbers.

    I know that your right-wing blogs are all aflutter about this. They have been for months. As for me, I welcome an investigation. When it’s over, you will still be convinced of a grand conspiracy, but you will have to be that way while wearing lots of egg on your face.

    I thank you for confirming my earlier comment: “Some of us would see Eric Holder dismissing charges against scary black men, and automatically assume bad faith – that he’s only doing it to “help out some brothers.” That’s why I believe that color plays into almost everything.”

  • 27. graychin  |  October 14, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    Tex, I wish that your email had included information about General Motors, Bank of America, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, Enron, WorldCom, AIG, Washington Mutual, Chrysler, Pacific Gas and Electric…

    and so many others.

    I also wish that you had included something about Columbia/HCA – the biggest case of Medicare fraud ever. Now THEY know how to run a health care system! :D

    Yeah – great stuff. Just great.

  • 28. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 14, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    I also wish that you had included something about Columbia/HCA – the biggest case of Medicare fraud ever. Now THEY know how to run a health care system!

    You mean like the government bureaucrats who let that and other fraud get by them?

    What is the tally on loss for Medicare fraud and waste right now? $60 billion? And rest assured, the gubmint flunkies who let it happen won’t be looking for work tomorrow. Hell, they prolly got promoted! Whereas the corporate malefactors can be held criminally liable, and civily liable to the shareholders.

    Accountability baby! Accountabliity!

  • 29. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 14, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    I thank you for confirming my earlier comment: “Some of us would see Eric Holder dismissing charges against scary black men, and automatically assume bad faith – that he’s only doing it to “help out some brothers.”

    I said nothing of the kind, but I am glad so see that your reading comprehension is just as faulty as ever.

  • 30. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    I don’t see the relevance of your point Graychin. What’s new?

    Government Motors is a disaster (see the Volt :smile: ) and still owes the American public $50Billion, Lehman Brothers gone, Enron’s former advisor your economic genius and lib Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman, Merrill Lynch a huge Bongo contributor, Chrysler – bond holders literally and figuratively screwed in the rectum because of Bongo Gov’t, etc…

    You didn’t mention, Citigroup – I note how you don’t claim Robert Rubin the greatest treasurer anymore either, or Fannie, or Freddie.

    But you could add everything you listed x 10 and it would still pale in value of the El Bongo debt alone. And thank you for mentioning Medicare fraud – another program proving gov’t can’t find their ass with both hands. Did I mention that Medicare is 842% more expensive that originally estimated? And you want them to manage health care?

    Did I mention you are the only person I’ve ever met in the last 20 years that thinks the post office does a good job? Even my mailman thinks they suck. Says “it’s embarrassing.”

    Anything else you want to talk about? :smile:

  • 31. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    that/than…

    I don’t even proofread anymore – it shows.

  • 32. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    I just reread a couple of my prior posts – my brain does not work in conjunction with my fingers any more. A disgrace. I couldn’t find my cell phone today either – my car keys. :oops:

    It just goes to show that a white man can’t get an even break in 21st Century America.

    Was there a pun here, or did you mean black Gray? Without going to your blog, wasn’t Rogers opponent black, and wouldn’t that hint that Dims in Oklahoma are…are…are…

    prejudiced? Or is it racist, since whites have all the power? :smile:

  • 33. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    :lol: or or or or or or my car keys. I don’t know why I’m leaving at entire words or phrases anymore, but virtually every post now reads short hand.

  • 34. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Not only is Victor Davis Hansen incredibly brilliant, he has this dry humor that just cracks me up – especially when he speak about Obama. This man has Obama pegged and I am honored that I think much like this man…great article.

    A few wealthy liberals are starting to do some basic arithmetic and, lo and behold, are discovering that they are on the wrong side of the new economic Mason-Dixon line of $250,000 and are suddenly counter-revolutionaries, and thus scheduled for a $20-40 thousand “contribution” in new income, capital gains, health care, and state income taxes to achieve “redistributive change.” (That monstrous Obama ’08 sign on the lawn, much less the fading Obama/Biden bumper sticker, does not count with the IRS.) They remind me of ‘reformers’ who thought throwing out Louis XVI would put them at the forefront of a reasoned revolution and now find themselves on the way to the guillotine, the sympathetic “rich” that Robespierre and the Committee of Public Safety still didn’t like. :lol: Justice, baby!

    Read the rest..

    http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/anatomy-of-petulance/

  • 35. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Man, this article will probably piss Rutherford off and send Graychin into a state of hypothermia.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zsxlCHg1bwIJ:www.ebonyjet.com/browning_of_gop.aspx+%22browning+of+the+GOP%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us#idc-cover

    Graychin, what are you phonies from the elitist, lily white Left who hob nob with exactly zero blacks going to do if the light bulb suddenly comes on that you jackboots have been lying and pandering for votes every two years, in reality doing nothing to better the standard of living for black America?

    I still believe in my lifetime, blacks are going to make a sea change of political thought, and when it happens, it will happen very quickly. And when it does, and assuming you’re still with us, you’re going to be shitting pumice bricks at just how irrelevant you lying, progressive scumbags become.

  • 36. dead rabbit  |  October 14, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    Holder doesn’t give a fuck about blacks. He cares about Dem votes and polls. If he could do it over again, I would bet a million bucks he would try those thugs. They just didn’t want to open that can of worms the first 100 days and under estimated how much those thugs would piss people off (on the old left, the right and the apolitical).

    They are grossly out of touch and underestimate all the time.

    Obama doesn’t have a beef with gays. He could care less about them. When it becomes expedient, don’t ask don’t tell is history.

  • 37. dead rabbit  |  October 14, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Greychin called me racist again? lol. Motherfucker elects to retire to some Aryan fortress and then busts my balls.

  • 38. El Tigre  |  October 14, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Regardless of who wrote the article, the civil rights division reopened the case and there’s plenty of testimony that the policy of dropping cases was biased. Calling people racists doesn’t change that or raise your I.Q., G-chin. If it didn’t happen, it didn’t happen. If it did, it’s a problem. And your attempt to reconstruct you prior comment about “scary black men” isn’t fooling anyone. Nobody thinks you’re enlightened. You’re a dumb hick. Stop digging.

  • 39. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    I can’t believe any of you attorneys didn’t call the insufferable Graychin and his bullshit in calling Chris Coates a partisan hack. That’s got to be parody…

    This Aryan fortress mofo :lol: and deluded old man must have forgotten the so-called partisan hack Coates worked for the ACLU’s Voting Rights Project and was even the recipient of the Thurgood Marshall Decade Award by the NAACP.

    Coates is as about as “progressive” as it gets, and even he recognizes the DOJs blatant double standards in judgment and fairness.

    You guys should have ripped the real partisan hack’s shriveled balls off for his blatant lying.

  • 40. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    You guys should have ripped the real partisan hack’s shriveled balls off for his blatant lying.

    Calling him out for not knowing what the hell he is talking about at this point would be like condemning water for being wet, or shouting at the wind to quit blowing.

  • 41. Rutherford  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    Before returning to politics, I wanted to give an update to those of you who might not have subscribed to HippieProf’s final thread.

    His obit can be found here. Tributes should be emailed to the funeral home.

    BiW, please pass this info onto your friend at The Hostages who expressed an interest.

  • 42. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    Calling him out for not knowing what the hell he is talking about at this point would be like condemning water for being wet, or shouting at the wind to quit blowing.

    No, No, No. Wrong-headed thinking. You let one roach hang around, thousands will be crawling around.

    Lift the rock, take your ball peen hammer, and smack the shriveled little roach balls. Rutherford is not a roach; Hippie was not a roach; Graychin is a roach; Yeller Dawg is 4-winged fruit fly and of no consequence because of the genetic dead end.

  • 43. Tex Taylor  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    “R”,

    That was eerie listening to Hippie’s voice – whoever is playing the lead guitar is pretty good I might add.

    But I got to thinking what song did Hippie’s remind me of – in fact, who did Hippie remind me of in his rock & roll garb. Then it hit me:

  • 44. Rutherford  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    LOL yeah you’re right Tex. HP would have fit right in with the BTO. :-)

  • 45. Rutherford  |  October 14, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    “Rock and Roll will save my soul and everything will be alright.” — Jim Dougan, the Hippie Professor

  • 46. Rutherford  |  October 15, 2010 at 12:04 am

    I really don’t feel like researching this but if I’m not mistaken the folks who originally decided to let prosecution of the NBPP slide were under the Bush administration post-election, pre-inauguration. So before hanging Holder out to dry, why don’t we go to the original source of the laxity. (Is that a word?)

  • 47. Rutherford  |  October 15, 2010 at 12:06 am

    BiW, regarding #21, I’m going to bed. But I will revisit the comment sometime tomorrow. Reading it, I found it very hard to believe you read the comment you were responding to.

  • 48. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 15, 2010 at 12:53 am

    “Obama wasn’t Carter…”

    That remains to be seen.

    Regarding the reenactment thing…without seeing the context, it sounds like much ado about nothing.

    I’ve known a more than 1 guy who has done that and the whole deal is, there have to be “bad guys” for the “good guys” to fight. And staying in character is a big deal to some of them.

    Taking the part of the Nazi and talking up Germany doesn’t necessarily the person agrees with what Nazis did. More than likely he’s playing a role not much different than Darth Vader of one of his Imperial stormtroopers.

  • 49. El Tigre  |  October 15, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Tex, I am kind of like BiW on this when it comes to G-chin. He just says it — everytime. Accuracy is never a factor. I think he knowingly says things that are false so that he can be corrected like an insolent child lloking for attention. Frankly, I thought we covered Coates ad neaseum already anyway. The latest is the gamesmaanship that was played with the subpoena and active efforts to prevent testimony. The whole thing stinks.

    R, I think you mean laxative.

    BTW, everywhere I turn now I hear about the “black community.” Obama has addressed and referred to it extensively in his speeches over the last several days. And here Beck called him racist. Turns out he was just a self-loathing African American. Thanks for the insight Rutherford.

  • 50. graychin  |  October 15, 2010 at 9:18 am

    Huck @ 48:

    You’re absolutely right. A guy dressing up in a Nazi uniform and re-enacting WWII battles (vs. the Soviets as the “good guys” in this case) does not imply agreement with Hitler or with genocide. Far from it.

    But would you agree that maybe it’s kinda weird? It sure seems that way to me. If I had a next-door neighbor who did that on weekends, I think I would tell the grandkids to avoid him. At least he isn’t running TV commercials of himself wearing his Nazi uniform, looking into the camera saying “I’m you!”

    It’s definitely not the sort of thing that someone who wants a career in public life would usually like to have on his resumé, but these aren’t usual times. The weird seems to be mainstream today in one of our major political parties: Sharron “Forty-one to” Angle, Rand “Aqua Buddha” Paul, Carl “Porn Pal” Palladino….

    And Christine O’Donnell, who doesn’t want you to have sex – with yourself.

    Weird. It’s the new normal.

  • 51. Tex Taylor  |  October 15, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Hey Gray,

    Remember just a few weeks back when you told us that Rand Paul and Sharron Angle were toast when people figured out how “radical”, “extreme”, “tea bagger”, “stupid” both were? Take your pick of the lib pejoratives.

    I understand that the stupid, extreme radical, teabagger Ms. Angle cleaned the floor with the soon to be ex-Majority Leader Harry Reid yesterday in a debate. Even the pinko Vegas Sun said as much. You should read the comments from the Left – reads like Yeller Dawg. :smile:

    You still holding out hope that Bongovision and BongoCare are going to carry the November election as you cast that vote for Jim Rogers for Senate?

  • 52. Rutherford  |  October 15, 2010 at 10:55 am

    Comparing the Confederates to the Nazis isn’t just silly, it is offensive.

    No, BiW it is not silly and it is offensive only to those who lack true remorse for our country’s most obvious sin.

    Let’s start with part 1 of your analysis. Oh booo hooo, my heart just breaks for the families torn asunder .. the West Point graduates suddenly fighting against each other. Oh the tragedy. Bullsh*t. The Civil War was about a bunch of bigots trying to sustain an economy fueled by bigotry. You can scream states rights till the cows come home. We had a North (who had held slaves) willing to abandon the practice and a South refusing to. Blacks were property. Blacks lived at the pleasure of their masters. Mind you, I didn’t say worked at the pleasure of their masters … I said lived at the pleasure of their masters. Killing a slave was no different from tossing out a piece of unwanted furniture.

    Part 2 of your analysis attempts to give me a lecture on the horrors of the Holocaust. Not necessary. I took history classes. One of the worst examples of man’s inhumanity to man. Anyone to argue otherwise would be a fool. The same fool that would argue about the inhumanity of loading a bunch of Africans into the bottoms of ships … some who didn’t survive the journey because they were packed like livestock. Then stripped of their identity, treated like property, whipped and tortured. Need I go on? And the persecution didn’t last for six years … it lasted for more than 100 years. It left such a lasting mark on our country that to this day blacks still struggle to find dignity in certain venues of American life.

    Your citing the Chinese and Vietnamese is just more bullsh*t. They didn’t arrive here by way of kidnapping. They just had the misfortune of thinking that the American Dream was synonymous with a hearty healthy welcome. Our country doesn’t welcome ANY minority initially. Italians, Chinese, etc. all faced discrimination when the got here because Americans are as xenophobic as the next guy. You are right that by hard work, many of these minorities endured and eventually gained acceptance. Might I remind you, hard paid work which enhances self esteem vs slavery which is hell bent on destroying self esteem.

    Your problem BiW is that you suffer from the worst case of American Exceptionalism Syndrome of anyone I’ve ever met. We are a flawed country with great ideals. When we are wrong, we need to admit it. When there is a dark chapter in our history, we need to show remorse. I personally find it sad that it took legislation to change behavior in the South. They should have been sorry and cleaned up their act. Instead they were a bunch of bigots bragging about their culture. It’s disgusting.

    P.S. I suppose you are angry that we recently apologized to Guatemala for infecting their people with VD. After all, America can do no wrong. :evil:

  • 53. Rutherford  |  October 15, 2010 at 11:00 am

    Regarding the reenactment thing…without seeing the context, it sounds like much ado about nothing.

    Huck, I actually agree with you on this. My bigger gripe was with Chris Matthews defending the cultural underpinnings of dressing up like a Confederate soldier.

    I consider all weekend warriors to being in a child hood game. It’s like when we were 9 or 10 and we played war or cops-and-robbers. It’s juvenile but if it’s how you get your kicks, more power to you. You’re right, in a reenactment, someone has to be the enemy.

    My only point is if we’re gonna get our panties in a knot over faux SS soldiers, then we should also get our panties in a knot over faux Confederate soldiers.

  • 54. Tex Taylor  |  October 15, 2010 at 11:13 am

    Rutherford, I’ve never been one to say you don’t make some valid points. However, a fair question. Are you glad your ancestors caught the ship, or would your prefer to be in the Sudan right now?

    Your problem BiW is that you suffer from the worst case of American Exceptionalism Syndrome of anyone I’ve ever met. We are a flawed country with great ideals.

    Man is flawed Rutherford – libs most of all. Where you scold BIC for his American jingoism, a syndrome I willfully admit I too suffer, you suffer from American Imperialism Syndrome – never missing a chance to point out all of America’s historical and egregious sins. This is a major difference between us. You used the Iraq War to bash Bush for six years, but not once have I ever read you admit that Bush also freed 23MM Iraqis, half of them abused women, from a thug that continually thumbed his nose as 16 U.N. resolutions for twelve years. Instead what I read is the tacit hint that Saddam moderated the country and kept the peace – never minding he also started three regional wars, killed millions of innocent Muslims that you so espouse, gassed the Kurds twice, and launched bombs at our ally Israel. Did I mention we have documented proof that Saddam was paying $25K for each suicide bomber?

    Ironic coming from a Harvard graduate, bright yes, but probably not so bright he would have been admitted were he white that he would scold his country as inhumane.. So I ask again, would you have preferred to have communed with the blacks that captured your ancestors and sold them into slavery? Or are you glad your ancestors, mistreated as they were, made it to America, lived through slavery with their legacy graduating from some of America’s finest schools?

  • 55. Rutherford  |  October 15, 2010 at 11:40 am

    but probably not so bright he would have been admitted were he white

    First let’s dispense with the affirmative action supposition which came close to the mark but missed. If I was the beneficiary of any affirmative action it was based on disability not race. In fact, I can assure you that the Harvard alumni interviewer thought she saw a disabled white kid come through the door. (Remember I suffer from “black-man melanin deficiency” :-) ) But this also betrays an assumption on your part which contradicts your usual better sense. About 1% of Harvard admittances are geniuses. The rest are high achieving students who won the lottery …. yes, with the number of folks who apply vs get in, it is a lottery. Those with alumni parents have a distinct edge. Minorities have a slight edge (in the name of creating a diverse class). Again in the name of diversity, those with a special skill have an edge. But I assure you, smart white kids have nothing to worry about … they get rejected from Harvard, they get into Yale or Princeton, or at worst Amherst. ;-)

    Now to your suggestion that I should be grateful for slavery cos I’m the lemonade that came from the lemon. It’s a nice way to make peace with history. Probably a good tactic for a feel-good psychologist to use on a depressed minority (not a self reference). But it’s a false choice.

    I would prefer that blacks were in this country because their ancestors willingly fled Africa for better opportunities, faced the same discrimination that other minorities have faced here, and worked their way through it. Slavery f*cks up the entire scenario.

    By the way, I knew you or someone else would bring up the Africans complicit in the slave trade. Hey, when did I ever say an African couldn’t be an assh*le?

  • 56. Tex Taylor  |  October 15, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    I would prefer that blacks were in this country because their ancestors willingly fled Africa for better opportunities, faced the same discrimination that other minorities have faced here, and worked their way through it. Slavery f*cks up the entire scenario.

    Oh, you were the beneficiary of some type of quota Rutherford – Ivy Leagues are notorious for their push for “diversity” to demonstrate their ‘humanity’, while hitting up families like the Kennedy Klan to fund it. I can give you one example of my youngest daughter’s best friend who scored a 2320 on her SAT, a perfect score on her PSAT, only to be rejected by all Ivy League institutions upon application; NOT that her parents being middle class and not having millions to add to the endowment would have had “anything” to do with it. Nod, nod, :wink: :wink:

    But that is not the historical reality – blacks leaving for greener pastures. They’ve stayed right there for thousands of years making in a perfect hell on earth. And while you minimize the complicity of Africa, the fact of the matter is, when your adversarial tribesman weren’t shrinking your granddaddy’s heads to hang on the mantle, they were selling you into Mr. Cracker to be packed like sardines in cargo. By the way, that would be a physical impossibility and illogical. Those kidnapping barons had every intent of getting their “cargo” there to pick a little cotton.

    I’m just wondering when you and Barack are going to demand that your ancestors be asked to grovel to the Jews for 400 years of bondage? When is Barack Obama going to stand up and apologize for the sins of all history that only his goodness, his majesty would allow, complete with Styrofoam Greek columns?

    Also what you fail to mention is that millions of whites fought the bloodiest of American battles to free black families – many black men, women and children assisted not only by Northerners, but assisted by Southerners as well? And many of those leaders were the ancestors of Christians you disdain, including the most influential ones that lead to the abolition of slavery. You know, those evil abolitionist type of Christians.

    What I have witnessed in my own lifetime is the “black community” murder a disproportionate number of fellow citizens, make up a disproportionate amount of other violent crime, make up a disproportionate share of the prison population. Or if they feel an injustice has been done, for burn down their own neighborhoods (must be a traditional thing) while taking aim at Korean grocers for pre-Civil War grievances.

    I’m having a real difficult time churning up any tears for your tacit claim as legacy to victim.

  • 57. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 15, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    By the way, I knew you or someone else would bring up the Africans complicit in the slave trade. Hey, when did I ever say an African couldn’t be an assh*le?

    Or how they still trade in slaves? But again, I’m sure it doesn’t count, because the outrage over the practice continually occurring seems to be at a considerably lower volume. Funny, that.

    Have you reserved some of your ire for the British? After all, they are the ones who primarily brought the slaves here (after other Africans “kidnapped” them), or at least until William Wilberforce and his allies outlawed the slave trade in Britain, or do they get a pass?

    And the North didn’t abandon the notion of slavery out of empathy or altruism; they abandoned it because it wasn’t economical.

    Your problem BiW is that you suffer from the worst case of American Exceptionalism Syndrome of anyone I’ve ever met. We are a flawed country with great ideals. When we are wrong, we need to admit it. When there is a dark chapter in our history, we need to show remorse.

    And how long is long enough for the expectation of sackcloth and ashes? Really, it’s a damn curious tack for a self-proclaimed porogressive to take. Afterall, if the ideal of progressivism is constantly change and improve (at least that is what they seem to believe), then how are we to accomplish it when people who had NOTHING to do with slavery or Jim Crow are constantly expected to atone for it in one fashion or another to people who ALSO had nothing to do with it.
    As a result, we still have people who talk seriously of “reparations” when the injured parties are long-since dead, rather than simply focusing on improving themselves based on their own efforts.

    Might I remind you, hard paid work which enhances self esteem vs slavery which is hell bent on destroying self esteem.

    And might I remind you that after the Emancipation Proclamation, there were no more slaves in this nation. Over One Hundred Fifty Years of paid work hasn’t built esteem? Don’t answer that, because I’m not sure that you actually understand the history. Instead, I’ll simply pose a few questions for you to mull over.

    Was there a time in the not-too-distant past when black families that had both parents in the same household and one of them was usually gainfully employed?

    And if so, can you tell me approximately when that changed, and when there was a rise in all the social ills and “low esteem” that affect these households today?

  • 58. El Tigre  |  October 15, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    BiW, ooh, ooh, I know, I know. . . ( but I won’t blurt it out — it’ll ruin the surprise).

  • 59. an800lbgorilla  |  October 15, 2010 at 2:04 pm

  • 60. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 15, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    It left such a lasting mark on our country that to this day blacks still struggle to find dignity in certain venues of American life.

    The only place one can “find” dignity is within themselves. Looking to others for affirmation makes you beholden to them, but I suppose I should expect no better from someone who still clings to the notion that government should be looked to as a solution for all problems.

    Either you never saw this, or the philosophical implications of it were lost on you:

  • 61. dead rabbit  |  October 15, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    Rutherford, 3 out of 4 of my Grand parents were born in Europe. Am I off the guilt hook? Then again, one of my Grandparents fought a 3 day war against American blacks, so maybe not.

    Quick Rabbit quips.

    I think slavery was an example of genocide if one looks at even the low ball numbers on the deaths from the voyage itself.

    But, pinning it on just the South is silly.

    Hell, Brazil kept importing slaves until almost the 20th century.

    Portuguese, Spanish, Venice, arab traders, the French, America, North and South, Irish coveting shitty jobs, various African kingdoms and tribes.

    All guilty…rabbit drum roll…hundreds of years ago.

    However, if Rutherford can’t get over the past that he barely takes the time to learn about, at least we can look forward to an intense blog on what the Turks did to Aremenia

  • 62. Tex Taylor  |  October 15, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Contest: Guess Which One Is Ahmadinejad’s Wife
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    The comments are funny as hell…

    http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/10/contest-guess-which-one-is-ahmadinejads.html

  • 63. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 12:09 am

    I’m torn on the black anger/victim thing.

    When I worked in corrections my partners (“assistants”) were mostly black dudes around 55 to 65 years old.

    They all made 15 grand less then me despite decades of experience, as they were not college grads. While they all blamed themselves to some extent, these dudes most certainly got screwed by Jim Crow.

    I know I’ve wrote about this before. One saturday afternoon this old black dude gave me the insider’s tour of Richmond, VA. He seriously wasn’t trying to make some grand statement by doing so, but he ended up showing me all the places he wasn’t allowed to go to as a man in his twenties. I’m not sure I could have shaken that shit off like my buddy did. I would have ended up taking scalps.

    Collective defiance, such as telling pollsters OJ is innocent, is to be expected.

    What is truly disheartening isn’t a streak of anti-establishment mindset, victim-hood group think or “hate whitey-ism” sometimes found in the black community. It’s the destruction of the black family by the welfare state and the black on black violence that is way out of whack when even taking in consideration a historic economic disadvantage or legacy of racism.

    I will say it again. Go back and count the blogs Rutherford has written about black on black violence. Sure, we get a ton of blah blah about nuanced racism. And greychin will type off accusations towards the rabbit from the Aryan fortress.

    But the real tragedy of black America is never willfully discussed by libs.

    I wonder how many black kids will have bullets in their heads tonight? I know, R. You told me before. This is a political blog.

    God knows if what I wrote makes sense. I need to chuck this blackberry.

  • 64. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Dammit Rabbit, just when I’m about to pound you, you go and write something that shows me you’re THINKING about what I had to say.

    The reason I don’t write about black-on-black violence isn’t simply because this is a political blog. On the contrary, I like to think of this as a social commentary blog and that subject would fit right in. I don’t write about it because, frankly I don’t understand it. I can’t wrap my head around it. And the more I think about it the more it leads me to group-based conclusions that I don’t want to come to.

    It’s been a tough week in blog-world with the death of Hippie weighing heavily on me so I might as well end the week very frankly. This is probably going to be used against me down the line but so be it.

    I grew up in one of the most anti-black bigoted families you can imagine. Yes … a black family bigoted against blacks. The theme I heard over and over growing up was “black people make no sense”. We always lived in new neighborhoods that were middle to upper middle class and they were always new so we wouldn’t be the family integrating an established neighborhood. My family had ZERO interest in living in the so-called black community. My Dad worked in a ghetto school for more than 30 years and hated most of it. When I was a kid I couldn’t listen to James Brown cos my parents considered him profoundly ignorant.

    With that said, while my parents felt black folk “made no sense”, they still had empathy and compassion for them. Each of my parents suffered discrimination in different ways. Even though they had no love for the “black community” they never forgot they were black.

    I guess I’m telling you all this to explain that I come from a complicated place racially. I get angry at blacks just as often as I get angry at some whites for their attitudes. But my bottom line still comes back to this. Rabbit said earlier in the thread:

    However, if Rutherford can’t get over the past that he barely takes the time to learn about …

    The day you tell Jews to “get over the past” is the day I’ll jump on board with your telling blacks to get over the past. It’s as simple as that.

  • 65. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Black crime is a house of cards for you. There is no way you can explain away the direct correlation of the Welfare State to the murder rate. So you choose to ignore it. Its as simple as that.

    On another note, doesn’t it almost feel wrong that we kind of just go on bickering about the issues when one of our own here is gone forever? Not
    that hippieprof would care.

    I didn’t get a chance to know hippieprof’s online presence like you and Tex. In fact, I’m pretty sure the guy didn’t care for me much on here.
    However, I can’t get over that one day we can be on here as such cerebral beings and the next day gone forever.

    I also have given some thought for why we feel the need to do this stuff online at all. What do we get out of it? Is it fun? Is it healthy?

    Weird world.

  • 66. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 16, 2010 at 2:12 am

    So I went to see the doctor today for the first time since he told me I was close to Type II Diabetes.

    Diet and exercise took away 34 lbs, removed my immediate risk for Type II, and lowered my total cholesterol by a whopping 50 points.

    I’m still about 5 lbs away from my target weight, and I’d like to cut another inch or 2 from the gut. But I can now say that the effort was worth it.

    I guess the moral of the story is….listen to your doctor if/when he tells you to get up off your ass and don’t stuff your face so much.

  • 67. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 3:31 am

    Damn, R.

    No James Brown? That’s harsh, man. He was a musician. No one has any business expecting him to be profoundly intelligent. I don’t expect that from any musician. In fact, I like it much better if they would all shut up and sing or shut up and play.

    R, I realize that this has been a tough week for you. Consider this a gift from me to you…one of my favorite James Brown tracks:

  • 68. an800lbgorilla  |  October 16, 2010 at 7:02 am

    I’ve been more or less unplugged all week, so I’ve missed quite a bit.

    I am truly saddened to hear that HP has passed. I am going to miss his commentary and his intelligent criticism- we rarely agreed, but he made a sound effort. I have long shared the opinion of Tex and BiW that HP and R are the two libs on this blog that I could enjoy a beer with. Chin, only if I could hit you with the bottle afterwards…

    This was on the last post:

    If I may butt in, it seems to me that both of you are hung up on the idea of a “black community.” I tried to make fun of that concept in an earlier comment when I referred to the “white community” as if whites were a unified, homogeneous group. They aren’t. Neither is the “black community.”” – Chin

    Is there a ‘White’ Congressional Caucus?
    Ivory Magazine?
    ‘White’ Entertainment Channel?

    Need I go on? Should I quote Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson in their use of the term ‘Black Community’? To say that there isn’t a ‘Black community’ is frankly delusional- it is marketed to by industry, by politics and by themselves.

    DR made a couple observations- the destruction of the black family and the black-on-black violence- as key issues. So what came first, the chicken or the egg? I see the ‘Black community’, from a commercial standpoint, to be very materialistic. From clothes to cars, what you have seems to be the most important thing. Watch a hip hop video and tell me that message isn’t being pushed hard. Further, you can’t have a family if the other half of the equation is dehumanized. After all, we don’t think of mothers as bitches and ho’s. I really have a hard time with the Hip Hop scene, followed closely by the NBA. Both, in my opinion, do nothing to demonstrate ethics, morality and personal responsibility.

    Chin went on to say that, “ Tiger, when you obsess about something as inconsequential as the New Black Panthers (or whatever they call themselves), it might lead some of us to believe that you have more of a problem with alleged nutcases who are black than with alleged nutcases who are white.

    Heaven forbid it might actually have something to do with the fair and equal prosecution of the law.

    Another jewel from the last post by Chin- “ We hear that the Chamber of Commerce is funneling tons of money from anonymous sources into attack ads against Democrats. I think that the Democrats are fighting back with the wrong arguments when they complain about possible foreign sources.

    They should be pointing out the cowardice and possible sinister motives of people who spend that kind of money to influence our elections while being unwilling to take responsibility for what they are doing. We we have no idea about the real agendas of these generous but anonymous sugar daddies. Good government? Maybe.

    Then R said this, “The Dems should just beat the GOP at its own game. Surely we could stop whining and spend that time soliciting our own anonymous donors.

    R and Chin will attack the messenger, because neither has a refute to the message- the right has been pointing to Obama’s foreign contributions for some time now. George Soros? I’m sure he’s interested in what the American people want… Right?

    Holy shit. I need to get a FM-G9

    The first thing that came to my mind is that I will finally get me that 12 point buck….i can shine and then mow him down at 3 in the morn’!” – DR

    If you’re using a 9MM to hunt deer, well, that’s probably your first problem. Secondly, you’re probably hunting in the wrong areas. I hear the abandoned neighborhoods of Detroit are teeming with deer. On second thought, if you’re wondering the abandoned neighborhoods of Detroit, you’ll probably need that 9MM. ;)

    And to close this out.

  • 69. an800lbgorilla  |  October 16, 2010 at 7:31 am

    You can’t make this shit up…

    I have a FILTHY tattoo of Obama’s face on my gut. How can I remove it?

    I’ll admit that I got swept up by the Obama hysteria last year…and that’s why I got his tattoo on my gut. But I have now seen the light…and Obama ain’t nuttin but an Uncle Tom. And wit all my pregnancy stretch marks, his face sho be looking ugly on my gut. How can I get the tattoo removed?

  • 70. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 10:31 am

    ROTFLMAO …. G, I think I’ve asked you this before but where do you find this stuff? :lol: If you click the link you’ll see Yahoo Answers’ sensibilities were upset and the question has been deleted. :-)

    Hey, it’s the story of anyone in love who gets that tattoo they later regret. :-D

  • 71. Tex Taylor  |  October 16, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Damn, you guys were on a roll last night, and Gorilla continued with it this morning. I’m still laughing about the tattoo. Even some of Rutherford’s post was funny, though he wasn’t intending it to be. For some reason, I can hear Rutherford’s dad telling his young son James Brown is profoundly ignorant – “R”, you’re dad was right. :smile: Abject stupidity knows no racial lines. Maybe that’s why the “R” is my favorite liberal buddy. Sounds to me like his folks weren’t too awfully different than my folks.

    So another funny:

    PARKING TICKET

    Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting.

    Well, for example, the other day my wife and I went into town and went into a shop. We were only in there for about 5 minutes. When we came out, there was a cop writing
    out a parking ticket. We went up to him and said, “Come on, fella!! How about giving a senior citizen a break?”

    He ignored us and continued writing the ticket. I called him a turd. He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having worn tires. So my wife called him a shithead.
    He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he started writing a third ticket. This went on for about 20 minutes…

    The more we abused him, the more tickets he wrote…
    Personally, we didn’t care. We came into town by bus and saw the car had an Obama sticker… We try to have a little fun each day now that we’re retired…

    It’s important at our age.

  • 72. Tex Taylor  |  October 16, 2010 at 10:41 am

    “R”,

    I think you have proven my point (at least in my mind) that the real demographic divide in America really isn’t about race but mindset, eventually leading to education and economics.

    The generational divide may have caused a division between your dad and me if we had talked politics, religion, history, segregation, because I think history would have made both of us uncomfortable. But with you, I’m perfectly comfortable because frankly, I’ve always pretty much considered you my polar opposite soul mate.

    The further removed we get from Jim Crow and that abomination, I think the more you’ll find race in the middle to upper middle class becomes less important. Your own daughter may not recognize what you’ve recognized, like you removed from your dad’s generation. There’s been one or two jet black kids stroll my home through my daughter’s lives with dad having a stroke, and neither one of my kids to the best of my knowledge heard the dreaded “N” word under this roof.

  • 73. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 10:42 am

    BiW, every now and then my parents could be real hard-asses. They also banned Led Zeppelin on the grounds I was already way too invested in rock and roll, having a pretty complete Alice Cooper and Rolling Stones collection. Ironically, Zep’s music has some of the least offensive lyrics around, a lot of it mysticism and of course some real old fashioned blues. In any case, once I got my “freedom” the Godfather of Soul was added to my collection. While I appreciate that cool obscure cut offered up by you, one good tune deserves another and this is my favorite chestnut:

  • 74. Tex Taylor  |  October 16, 2010 at 10:47 am

    Arrrggghhhhhhh….

    Taylor Dad did NOT HAVE A STROKE when the black kids strolled through his Living Room…

    I’ll never live that one down with Graychin. :neutral:

  • 75. Tex Taylor  |  October 16, 2010 at 10:52 am

    “R”,

    Man, you read more like Jimi Hendrix than James Brown. You were an Alice Cooper fan? :lol: No wonder your mom wanted you to avoid the white trash.

    Funny thing is, short of Nugent, I don’t think there’s a more Conservative rock and roller than Alice. His was purely show and an underrated musician.

    Alice is a heck of a golfer by the way.

  • 76. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 10:55 am

    On another note, doesn’t it almost feel wrong that we kind of just go on bickering about the issues when one of our own here is gone forever? Not
    that hippieprof would care.

    Well of course, one man’s bickering is another man’s debate. I considered absenting myself from the thread for a few days in HP’s honor and just let you guys go at it but as trite as it sounds I don’t think that is the way HP would have wanted me to play it. I also considered devoting a post to him but in an odd prophetic way, I already wrote about losing cyber-brothers a couple of weeks ago … never imagining the loss would cut even closer to home. The dude I wrote about then I hadn’t heard from in ages. HP cut much closer to the bone.

    Alfie, who has been silent on the subject here, wrote a memorial yesterday.

  • 77. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:04 am

    Oh Rabbit … one more thing.

    I also have given some thought for why we feel the need to do this stuff online at all. What do we get out of it? Is it fun? Is it healthy?

    Well one of the things we get out of it is we get to know some people. As i wrote a few weeks ago, there are those who come here and spout platitudes devoid of any personal context. That’s their prerogative. But most here share a bit of themselves as they defend their positions. The result is we gain a respect, perhaps sometimes a begrudging respect ( :-) ) for each other. There isn’t enough human connection in this world. Many of us walk around isolated, even when surrounded by people. Alone in a crowd is the common phrase. While it was never my intention, if this venue gives us a chance tor some much needed connection, that’s a good thing. Hippie’s death drove home that the connection is possible … even among people who don’t know each other’s real names.

  • 78. an800lbgorilla  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:04 am

    I think HP would be the first to champion any and all discussion of music- especially the classics.

    I’m not sure what it means when I start hearing Nirvana played as a classic…

  • 79. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:13 am

    His [Alice Cooper] was purely show and an underrated musician.

    Amen to that brother. Get a hold of “Halo of Flies” for a friggin tour de force. Great stuff. I still try to play the drum solo from that song.

    Doh … what am I thinking? The joys of YouTube:

  • 80. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:14 am

    I’m not sure what it means when I start hearing Nirvana played as a classic…

    It means you’re getting old dude. :-)

  • 81. Tex Taylor  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Rutherford,

    Thought the same thing. That is, maybe I should just cool my jets and lay off for a few months. I was hacked at myself for never sharing with The Professor how much I had enjoyed our conversations – even the intense ones. The finality of knowing I would never get to do as much sickens me. But I will forever be grateful that Jim shared those last two posts of his.

    And it confirmed for me what I had always suspected – that the Professor and my story I shared with you last year of my friend in Washington were much the same people. And like Mike, Jim’s completely unexpected announced death gave me a more profound sense of loss than I would have ever anticipated.

    I took that lesson to heart this week with you. :wink: You remember what I said when the battle gets heated, because it was from the heart. If we part ways for whatever reason or get lost in the shuffle, I’m honored that you’ve let me play a part in your blog the last two years.

    It’s been a blast….goes for the rest of you that frequent here.

    It will no doubt never be as fun now without his presence.

  • 82. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:21 am

    Personally, we didn’t care. We came into town by bus and saw the car had an Obama sticker… We try to have a little fun each day now that we’re retired…

    While in utterly poor taste, that was funny. I feel so bad for the dude who owned the car. And what an asshat of an officer to not verify whose car it actually was.

  • 83. Tex Taylor  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:27 am

    It was in an email I received accompanied by a picture of an elderly couple that could be plastered on one of those insulting greeting or birthday cards you get when you hit a magic number.

    I’m sure it was made up – but it was still funny! Would you have liked it better if I had substituted the word Palin for Obama?

  • 84. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:30 am

    “Hey, it’s the story of anyone in love who gets that tattoo they later regret.”-R

    When I got inked with my wife’s name, everyone told me it was a curse. Wrong. It helps me stay on the straight and narrow better then a ring. I can take the ring off.

    The weird thing is I did it as a joke because I couldn’t think of what to get her for her birthday. She actually liked it!

    Tattoos are so damn cheesy. I remember thinking when I enlisted in the Navy I had license to get as many as I wanted.

    Sailors, Marines, convicts and bikers. That was the rule.

    Now dick head CEO’s get some motivating symbol in Chinese on there shoulder blade. I got robbed. Too bad I’m addicted to the damn things. it’s my answer to a shitty day. Go to my buddy’s house and get inked. So damn corny.

  • 85. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:51 am

    This folk singer from Michigan is an unlikely story. He claims to be a folk singer who is Christian and not Christian folk singer, if that makes any sense. Amazingly, he’s become hip to the college kids across the nation. .

  • 86. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    Can someone explain to me what it means when the Feds buy back bonds. I really don’t get it.

  • 87. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 16, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Not me. I know just enough about monetary policies to give me a headache and make it not fun to think about. And so far Google isn’t giving me any kind of dummied-down explanations.

  • 88. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 16, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    DR, as a teacher, do you find the need to keep your ink covered? Is it all in locations where that isn’t an issue? Or (in your experience) are people not so uptight about tattoos anymore that it no longer matters?

  • 89. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Can someone explain to me what it means when the Feds buy back bonds. I really don’t get it.

    Start here:

    http://www.eternityroad.info/index.php/weblog/single/whatd_he_just_say/

  • 90. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    As I understand it, Rabbit, it means that we are buying our own debt. We aren’t buying our own debt to retire it, because we keep issuing the debt. We also keep printing the money necessary to buy the debt. This means our debt is worth less, so we have to issue more, and print more money to buy it, which drives down the price, which means we have to issue more, and print more money…and eventually, we reach the point where there are too many dollars chasing too few goods (inflation), only this next time, it will likely be hyperinflation because of the sheer volumes of money we have printed. By hyperinflation, I mean “wheelbarrows full of $1,000,000 bills bundled in stacks of 100 to buy a loaf of bread” hyperinflation.

    Put simply, it will be teh suck writ large.
    The good news (such as it is) is that I will be able to pay off my student loans with those inflation dollars really cheaply.

  • 91. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    This, BTW, is the one thing that really does concern me about the upcoming elections. I have a feeling that we will have a SHTF moment with this stuff sooner rather than later, and that many of the candidates who are going to be elected in November haven’t talked about this at all, so they haven’t begun to condition those voting for them to the idea of what is likely to happen.

    On the other hand, the only hope of praying off our debt with real dollars will be to massively slash federal spending, and the current crop of candidates is the first group in decades with the right ideas of how to do that…start with the things the federal government has no business being involved in, kill them if they are legislative agencies, and starve them financially if they are executive agencies, rather than focusing on holding the things they should be doing hostage until the things that are not are fully funded.

    I think the new class is going to have to get to it toute suite, because if the inflationary spiral happens first, the impact will be a lot harder.

  • 92. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    tout de suite

    Geez. Madame Powell is giving me the dirty look from wherever she is at this moment.

  • 93. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Hucking, that really is an accomplishment. I remember you were pissed off when the doc broke the news. But you were a soldier about it. Dropping 35 pounds is no joke.

    I have kind of quit dieting and cardio for the last 6 weeks. The good news is I have kept the weight off and have gotten way stronger lifting weights. The bad news I sometimes have been eating like shit

    Eating meat is like steroids for me. If I eat a huge plate of ham, I am significantly stronger.

    Softball ended last night. I am going to concentrate on losing another 20 while getting stronger in the weight room.

    It’s a tough line to walk, losing weight and getting stronger.

    As for the tats, I don’t let the kids see them and have to wear long sleeve shirts. Sucks when it gets hot.

  • 94. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    BIC,

    So, we are just printing money? We pay off the Chinese with printed money and then they loan us more? Why would they do this? That link talks about mortgages. I don’t get what that has to do with bonds.

  • 95. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    the current crop of candidates is the first group in decades with the right ideas of how to do that.

    BiW, I do love you (in a non-homo way) but pray tell … what are these right ideas you speak of and who is saying them?

    Sharron Angle can’t spell “right idea”.
    Rand Paul is a waffler …. originally a serous libertarian, now just Karl Rove’s puppet.

    Anybody else give you hope? You know when you first talked about that SHTF moment, I thought you were gonna say something profound like “what the hell are we gonna do when these loonies I support actually have to deal with a crisis?” LOL

    If November comes out the way you want, your gang will be too busy trying to impeach Obama to have any time left over to deal with anything serious.

  • 96. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Mortgages are only part of the securitization puzzle, DR. But think of it this way. Now that Fannie and Freddie are in the benevolent hands of the Government, all those mortgage-backed securities are government debt now, which, unlike our t-bills is actually backed by something, namely, the real estate those mortgages underwrite.

    And the Chinese aren’t really on board with Lil’ Turbo Tax Timmah’s plans, which is why he, and Larry Summers and others have had to go there, hat in hand, and say some exceedingly stupid things (kind of like “If you like your insurance, you can keep it) in order to incentivise them into continuing to underwrite all the various slush funds “stimulous” spending.

  • 97. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Huck, let me second DR’s congrats on your health progress. Medicine is the easy fix … but when your doctor tells you you need a lifestyle change, that is not pretty.

    Interestingly, while no doctor has ever said this, I suspect my lifestyle changes would involve eating MORE and getting more sleep.

  • 98. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    what are these right ideas you speak of

    You mean like “Stop spending money we don’t have?”
    I’m pretty sure they ALL are saying it.

    I’d be careful about underestimating Angle if I were you, R. She ended up eating Reid’s lunch earlier this week, and that was the conclusion of the Vegas print media earlier this week.

    and who is saying them?

    Well, one example would be BJ Lawson, who is running for the House in North Carolina. I’ll let his opponent, who is clearly out of touch with his constituents, tell you more:

    *eliminate the Department of Education (hmm, remove the feds from something that isn’t their jurisdiction…a good start)

    *withdraw from the UN (excellent, we don’t need to provide the place and the money for the world to come and condemn Israel for defending itself, or to be lectured to on human rights by places like Syria and China. If we wanted to engage in the theatre of the absurd, we have the Democrats and C-SPAN)

    *Militarize the SW border (Well, normally, when countries are being invaded and occupied by foreign nationals, the response is usually to send in the military)

    *Refuse to take a stand on DADT? (Well, typically, I’m not generally in favor of the Feds interferring in something that is not their specific prerogative. The military can contol every aspect of its members lives…when to sleep, when to wake, what to wear, what to eat, when to shit and how, and every detail of how they perform their duties. If they say having a desire to literally be a buddy fucker is damaging to morale and good order, then it is their decision to make, and Congress, and the Left can get bent.)

    (and the out-of-touch Congressmen was comedic GOLD at around 4:34)

    Other Candidates have advocated disbanding the Dept. of Energy as well. I’d add the EPA to that list as well.

  • 99. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Man, BIC, where can I vote for that guy!

  • 100. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Rabbit, you live in the heart of leftist Michiganistan. I don’t know if there is such an option for you there.

  • 101. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    We will have a Republican Gov in November…believe dat

  • 102. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Rabbit, are we talking about “Michigan” Republican a la Bill Miliken or Republican a la Chris Christy?

  • 103. dead rabbit  |  October 16, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    Real deal. Google the “nerd”.

  • 104. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    BiW, on your David Price video, let’s start with an inaccurate editorial slide that was stuck in. The slide says:

    “Mr. Price does not know his fellow Congressmen after 22 years? He may have meant Ron Paul instead of his son Rand Paul.”

    No, actually Price said exactly what he meant to say. Price could not come up with the name Joe Barton (on the Commerce Committee) who famously apologized to BP. As for Rand Paul …. yes he meant Rand Paul, who said that we were inappropriately putting the boot down on the neck of BP.

    If you’re going to editorialize a video with slide commentary, at least get it right. DavidZDavid, the video auteur also seems to have delusions of grandeur. His comment on the YouTube page accuses YouTube of disabling his hit counter. Funny, I can see clearly how many hits the video got.

    More in a bit.

  • 105. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    R,

    In the spirit of one of the things we both can enjoy, here is the band that I love that my parents hated me listening to when I was in High School:

    Its one of those songs that it doesn’t matter where I am or what I’m doing. I hear the opening strains, and the foot starts tapping, the head starts bobbing, and I have to fight the urge to so shout “HELL YEAH!!!”

  • 106. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    If you’re going to editorialize a video with slide commentary, at least get it right. DavidZDavid, the video auteur also seems to have delusions of grandeur. His comment on the YouTube page accuses YouTube of disabling his hit counter. Funny, I can see clearly how many hits the video got.

    More in a bit.

    R, youtube is notorious for disabling hitcounters on conservative videos. Its a phenomena that has been observed by many, and it usually happens shortly after one “goes viral” through the auspices of a well-trafficked conservative site embedding or linking it( like Ace of Spades HQ, Michelle Malkin, RedState, or Hot Air)…then it just stops working, and then miraculously becomes “unstuck” a few days later.

  • 107. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    BiW, on your David Price video, let’s start with an inaccurate editorial slide that was stuck in.

    And it isn’t “mine’. I take things to task in text. I used it merely to answer your question, having watched it and gotten a good chuckle when DPUD posted it earlier this week.

  • 108. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Another of my favorites:

  • 109. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    I’d be careful about underestimating Angle if I were you, R.

    Oh you misunderstand me my friend. I don’t underestimate her at all. She is a nutjob dingbat who will very likely get elected. From what I’ve heard of her debate with Reid, Reid acted like a wet noodle. I would not be at all surprised if she wins. So much the worse for Nevada and our country … unless once in the Senate she realizes she is in way over her head and she keeps a very low profile.

    Now let’s get back to what my brother from another mother, BlowJob Lawson had to say. Oooooh I forgot, the video actually didn’t tell us much of what he had to say. OK let’s deal with how Price characterizes Lawson.

    *eliminate the Department of Education (hmm, remove the feds from something that isn’t their jurisdiction…a good start)
    What exactly does the Department of Education do that impinges on the jurisdiction of any locality? They don’t set curricula, they don’t hire or fire teachers, etc. What exactly are they doing that is so egregious?

    *withdraw from the UN (excellent, we don’t need to provide the place and the money for the world to come and condemn Israel for defending itself, or to be lectured to on human rights by places like Syria and China. If we wanted to engage in the theatre of the absurd, we have the Democrats and C-SPAN)
    A most mature position. If we don’t like the way an organization to which we are a long standing member (and founder) is behaving, we just take our marbles and walk away. Sends a fine message to the international community. You do realize BiW that isolationism has never worked in the past. We do actually have to work with other countries.

    *Militarize the SW border (Well, normally, when countries are being invaded and occupied by foreign nationals, the response is usually to send in the military)
    I am for increased border control but I’d also like the current state of affairs not exaggerated. We’re hardly being invaded and occupied. Then again if my brother BJ is listening to Sharron Angle, he believes folks are being decapitated right there in Nevada. :lol:

    *Refuse to take a stand on DADT?
    Ahhhh I see. So when DADT was legislated back during the Clinton admin you were all for legislative intervention in military affairs but now that we’re thinking of letting those horny queers have their way with our men in uniform, suddenly you’re against legislative intervention. LOL BiW of all your stances, this is the one where you are most clearly on the wrong side of history. (Well, that and health care reform.)

    I have to tell you, I am actually beginning to reconcile myself to any eventuality on November 2. If you boys do as well as you expect, then I can enjoy the next two years writing about how you’re screwing things up. I’m beginning to think any way this turns out, as a blogger, I win.

    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha :-D

  • 110. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    Whatever happened to the Black Crowes?

  • 111. Rutherford  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    LOL Johnny Diesel and the Injectors. Never heard of them but what a great name! :-)

    For those of you with a serious nerd streak, here’s a pretty good song played in a most nerdy fashion (I’ve already installed the drum kit):

  • 112. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 16, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    What exactly does the Department of Education do that impinges on the jurisdiction of any locality? They don’t set curricula, they don’t hire or fire teachers, etc. What exactly are they doing that is so egregious?

    Education isn’t one of Congress’s (or the rest of the Federal Government’s) duties (Thank God!) so why is there a Department of Education at all? I mean, it spends billions (with all the strings to go with it) and hasn’t managed to improve a damn thing.

    A most mature position. If we don’t like the way an organization to which we are a long standing member (and founder) is behaving, we just take our marbles and walk away. Sends a fine message to the international community. You do realize BiW that isolationism has never worked in the past. We do actually have to work with other countries.

    Don’t give me the “isolationism” two-step, R. The UN is a joke. We had nations looking the other way and profitting through “Oil-for-food”, so much so that some of them actually resisted doing something about all the resolutions that Iraq was violating whenever the hell they felt like it. The graft and corruption would make veteran Democratic Congressmen blush at the brazeness of it all, and when they started to let some of the worst national violators of human rights start taking turns overseeing human rights, it simply finalized a decline that started with UN troops raping little girls in countries they were stationed in to protect decades ago. The fact that they have also become a “Blame Israel First” club in addition to the rest is simply the icing on their clown faced cake.

    I am for increased border control but I’d also like the current state of affairs not exaggerated. We’re hardly being invaded and occupied.

    Except for the parks in Arizona that are officially no-go zones for US citizens because of the armed “southern tourists” who are squatting in them and ventilating people who are getting too close, and the landowners along the border who keep finding themselves on the wrong side of bullets fired by hard-working undcoumented workers who are doing the work no Americans want to do. Then there are the guides printed by the Mexican consulates giving instructions on how to flout US law and come here and occupy “their land”. But aside from those things, you are absolutely correct, R.

    Ahhhh I see. So when DADT was legislated back during the Clinton admin you were all for legislative intervention in military affairs but now that we’re thinking of letting those horny queers have their way with our men in uniform, suddenly you’re against legislative intervention.

    Actually, when Clinton was in office, I didn’t care one way or the other. I was trying to figure out how it was a President could purjure himself under oath and suffer no greater consequence than being disbarred, especially when he did have sex with that woman, and he was married to HER. The fact that he survived that is a testament to her unbridled ambition. However, I meant what I said, and if the best you can say in response is “you’re on the wrong side of history with this one”, then I accept your concession.

  • 113. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 17, 2010 at 12:01 am

    Ok, the vid is pretty funny.

  • 114. dead rabbit  |  October 17, 2010 at 12:04 am

    ” What exactly are they doing that is so egregious?” -R

    Wasting billions of dollars.

  • 115. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 17, 2010 at 12:05 am

    Apparently the Crowes are still playing, R.

  • 116. dead rabbit  |  October 17, 2010 at 12:35 am

    When will Nanny just give up when it comes to weed? I used to think those pot head legalization hippies were just a bunch of stoners with a messed up priority list.

    I’m not so sure anymore.

    Why do we give a shit about someone electing intoxication from cannabis over beer so much that we would spend billions, prop up Mexican cartels and arrest millions.

    Is it a free country or not?

    Weed is boring. Legalize the dumb stuff.

  • 117. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 17, 2010 at 1:15 am

    Thanks for the kudos, guys, but I really just wanted to stress to listen to your doctors and all the mumbo-jumbo that says diet and exercise.

    Funny thing is…what motivated me was that I dont have insurance and can’t afford to have diabetes. It wasn’t the health factor, it was my wallet. Diet and exercise is cheap. Test strips aren’t.

    Piss on ObamaCare. It’s going to make people less healthy, you watch.

    “withdraw from the UN (excellent, we don’t need to provide the place….”

    It’s my understanding that the property was privately owned and donated to the UN by Rockefeller.

    I don’t see what the UN hurts (In the area of diplomacy. “Peacekeeping” is dumb and dangerous). Plus, Israel’s FP sucks and they deserve to get called out. They foolishly insist on taking the bait they are given.

    DR, will be interesting to see if Prop 19 here in CA passes. Will Obama sue CA for preemption? (rhetorical question)

  • 118. dead rabbit  |  October 17, 2010 at 1:23 am

    You voting for Prop 19?

  • 119. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 17, 2010 at 2:45 am

    Without having yet read the voter guide, the best I can say is probably.

    I still have to see what it is “they” aren’t telling me. Which is always something with these CA propositions.

  • 120. an800lbgorilla  |  October 17, 2010 at 6:36 am

    *eliminate the Department of Education (hmm, remove the feds from something that isn’t their jurisdiction…a good start)
    What exactly does the Department of Education do that impinges on the jurisdiction of any locality? They don’t set curricula, they don’t hire or fire teachers, etc. What exactly are they doing that is so egregious?” – R

    Let’s use Hawaii as an example. For every dollar that Hawaii sends to the federal government for education, they get back .88 cents. That’s a 22% financial loss, God only knows how much time is lost, for something they could simply funnel directly into the schools, which are falling apart by the way. The last numbers I heard when I was there a few years ago was that the school population had grown some 30% over the last 20 years. The School Board of Education- Hawaii has one school district- has grown over 300%. Hawaii is ranked 42 in the nation.

    *withdraw from the UN (excellent, we don’t need to provide the place and the money for the world to come and condemn Israel for defending itself, or to be lectured to on human rights by places like Syria and China. If we wanted to engage in the theatre of the absurd, we have the Democrats and C-SPAN)
    A most mature position. If we don’t like the way an organization to which we are a long standing member (and founder) is behaving, we just take our marbles and walk away. Sends a fine message to the international community. You do realize BiW that isolationism has never worked in the past. We do actually have to work with other countries.” – R

    Do you actually think for a second that if the UN was gone that we’d be isolated? Tell you what, you list the successes of the UN and I’ll list the failures- who do you think is going to have the longer list? In fact, I’d be interested in hearing a single accomplishment of the UN.

    Considering the volume of cash we put into the UN, I think we should expect a bit more from it…

    *Militarize the SW border (Well, normally, when countries are being invaded and occupied by foreign nationals, the response is usually to send in the military)
    I am for increased border control but I’d also like the current state of affairs not exaggerated. We’re hardly being invaded and occupied. Then again if my brother BJ is listening to Sharron Angle, he believes folks are being decapitated right there in Nevada. “ – R

    Really?

    Phoenix police battle wave of abductions
    Phoenix police are aggressively trying to reduce the number of near-daily home invasions and kidnappings, which helped earn the city the title of “kidnap-for-ransom capital” of the U.S.

    *Refuse to take a stand on DADT?
    Ahhhh I see. So when DADT was legislated back during the Clinton admin you were all for legislative intervention in military affairs but now that we’re thinking of letting those horny queers have their way with our men in uniform, suddenly you’re against legislative intervention. LOL BiW of all your stances, this is the one where you are most clearly on the wrong side of history. (Well, that and health care reform.)” – R

    R, would you be comfortable changing in front of women, let alone gay men? How about a nice steamy shower?

    Have you ever been in a confined, stressful environment for weeks or months at a time? You’ve never answered my question to you: why do we separate the sex’s now? Why a separate boys and girls bathroom? Answer that, and based on that answer, tell me how that doesn’t apply to gays.

  • 121. an800lbgorilla  |  October 17, 2010 at 7:39 am

    Oh snap!!!

    Tea Party Not Racist After All
    Ekins photographed about 250 signs, and more than half of those she saw reflected a “limited government ethos,” she found – touching on such topics as the role of government, liberty, taxes, spending, deficit and concern about socialism. Examples ranged from the simple message “$top the $pending” scrawled in black-marker block letters to more elaborate drawings of bar charts, stop signs and one poster with the slogan “Socialism is Legal Theft” and a stick-figure socialist pointing a gun at the head of a taxpayer.
    There were uglier messages, too – including “Obama Bin Lyin’ – Impeach Now” and “Somewhere in Kenya a Village is Missing its Idiot.” But Ekins’s analysis showed that only about a quarter of all signs reflected direct anger with Obama. Only 5 percent of the total mentioned the president’s race or religion, and slightly more than 1 percent questioned his American citizenship.
    Ekins’s conclusion is not that the racially charged messages are unimportant but that media coverage of tea party rallies over the past year have focused so heavily on the more controversial signs that it has contributed to the perception that such content dominates the tea party movement more than it actually does.

  • 122. Tex Taylor  |  October 17, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Piss on ObamaCare. It’s going to make people less healthy, you watch.

    Very true. It will also be vastly more expensive.

    It’s been my experience that people believe so-called preventative care is the key to greater health. Though I’m a big believer in preventative care for selfish reasons, I also believe it gives people a false sense of security and can create a greater degree of apathy and personal irresponsibility.

  • 123. Tex Taylor  |  October 17, 2010 at 10:47 am

    I have give one great reason the U.S. should not only withdrawal from the U.N., but should become the enemy of the U.N. – never mind we finance 22% of this corruption.

    U.S. sovereignty….

    Here is a short, sweet article explaining as much.

    http://www.thebatt.com/2.8482/america-should-withdraw-from-the-united-nations-1.1202737

  • 124. dead rabbit  |  October 17, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    Agreed. You don’t need a doctor fora ton of preventative care. We all know whats healthy and whats not. When I started smoking at the age of 12, I was 100% aware of the risks.

    Hell, they should sell home cholesterol checks at Wallgreen’s..

    I also think 75% of physical therapy is over priced bunk shit that you could do by yourself. Just give someone a DVD.

    Obviously there are exceptions to this….particularly in the realm of cancer checks.

    But, people blow insurance money on dumb shit.

  • 125. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 17, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Sorry but that article stinks and the author didn’t do a lick of research before he started writing it, or a lick of support after he started.

    The sovereignty of every member state in the UN is guaranteed by Article 2 of the UN charter.

    How exactly has the UN ever threatened US sovereignty? The author of the article seems to think writing “…and undermines the sovereignty of the United States” is enough. He must have gone to the Obama school of accusation.

    And this is just stupid…. “The United Nations does not need to be reformed or improved to correct its flaws. It is diametrically opposed to the American system of government…”

    The UN is a friggen democracy, for crying out loud. Pure democracy. Not much goes on without a vote. I’d like to know what part of our system of government the democracy of the UN is opposed to. Again, the author thinks saying it is enough.

    And seriously… people are complaining over $30 billion over the course of 65 years? That’s chump change, folks. There’s thousands of other things I could think of cutting to save us $400,000,000 a year. Many of them contain the word “shovel-ready.”

    In today’s globalized world, a venue like the UN is more important than ever. And we have no way of measuring what good it does, because that good may very well be in what doesn’t go on because of diplomatic efforts rather than what does. And negatives can’t be measured any more than they can be proven.

    Personally, I think all this noise about the UN is much ado about nothing.

  • 126. dead rabbit  |  October 17, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    and, pre-UN debate that I have a feeling is about to ensue, I give you some shtick that that never gets old: My favorite Rutherford post of all time.

    http://rutherfordl.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/republicans-today-whigs-tomorrow/

  • 127. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 17, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    And this is stupid too…

    “The problems are not reserved to foreign countries. The organization often pursues anti-American policies that are grossly contrary to the Constitution. If approved by the U.S. the U.N.’s International Criminal Court (ICC) would restrict Americans’ right to a trial by a jury of their peers. The ICC contains no provisions to confront one’s accusers, and the writ of habeas corpus isn’t guaranteed.”

    Right there it shows how sovereignty is respected. The US has to agree to take a case to the ICC for anything the ICC says to matter. If both parties do not agree to take a case to the ICC, and to abide by its ruling, the case isn’t heard.

    And don’t even get me started on his whole “God given rights” silliness.

    “According to its Web site, the United Nations is in favor of creating an International Tax Organization and levying international taxes on certain items and transactions. This would allow the United Nations to operate with impunity because it would no longer be dependent on the $300 million annual contribution from the United States.”

    Why hasn’t it done this yet? Could it be that pesky sovereigny and UN democracy we heard doesn’t exist?

    “Even though the United Nations is corrupt, some fear that severing ties with it will lead to a new era of American isolationism. These concerns are unfounded, especially when one considers the situation in Iraq where the United States developed a coalition without the help of the United Nations.”

    He uses that as a reason why leaving the UN doesn’t matter. Isn’t that also a reason why staying in it doesn’t matter?

    This guy really should have done his homework. We have college freshmen who know this shit after 1 week in our world famous (no joke) Model United Nations program. ;)

  • 128. Tex Taylor  |  October 17, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Huck, for the same reasons you allowed yourself to become a prime candidate for heart attack, your glucose levels to balloon, and your misunderstanding of cholesterol, you are equally clueless about the real premise of U.N., which I suppose you will have to learn the hard way – but not at my family’s expense. All I really need to say is “League of Nations…”

    There’s no sense me arguing with you because I decided after Hippie, like Jim Dougan you on occasion provide some excellent information, never understanding value of what is most dear – your soul. I will no longer be party hastening your demise, as like Hippie, I generally like you – even with you bullheadedness and occasional blindness.

    Since I don’t even bother arguing with you because of your rabid Jew hatred which blinds you to a great many things, let me help you out with your prognosis, because you need to completely understand this and your writing above didn’t lead me to believe your explanation entirely sound.

    Cholesterol count is generally meaningless, unless you suffer from familial hypercholesterolemia. The ratio of HDL to LDL is what you need to focus. Because you let your weight balloon, it wasn’t so much what you were eating as the fact your cell receptors were overloaded with LDL lipoproteins created by your overabundance of adipose and production of glucose.

    And the fact there is now some indicators that obesity not only affects insulin levels but can also affect the ability of cellular membrane receptors to allow intracellular glucose reuptake.

    Cholesterol is an absolute necessity to life. It makes up a great percentage of every cellular membrane, and is a requirement for many hormones, including testosterone. While it is true that the higher your HDL, generally the less likelihood of myocardial infarction, you should focus more on your triglycerides, which generally parallel low density lipoprotein production and are more directly related to diet and exercise.

    Most cholesterol problems are genetic and difficult to control without assistance, helping to explain why even skinny folks still suffer from excessive LDL protein levels.

    Statins work as competitive inhibiting enzymes reducing the production of cholesterol.

  • 129. dead rabbit  |  October 17, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Out of boredom, I clicked on sensico’s blog (which apparently has moved to facebook). I shit you not she is still going on and on about “Tea Bagger” signs. Even if there was validity to the story she is framing since the summer 2008, you would think even a 95 IQ would be enough of a catalyst to move on. Talk about not progressing intellectually. Rutherford, you mentor the girl. Help her, man.

  • 130. Tex Taylor  |  October 17, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    you would think even a 95 IQ would be enough of a catalyst to move on.

    See, you answered your own question about Sensico – faint praise at 95.

    I’m guessing Sensico scores somewhere around room temperature IQ. :twisted: She still hasn’t realized like Graychin, who is also still using the term of endearment, that makes them the teabaggee – something I suspected about AC/DC Chin. I’m guessing he does a little ogling of the lake boys.

  • 131. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:05 am

    In no particular order:

    Tex, I think most folks (laymen) when they talk about a cholesterol problem really are referring to the HDL/LDL ratio. In fact wouldn’t you agree that most doctors tell their patients to watch their cholesterol (generic statement) rather than specifying the true menace?

    As for Sensico, she and I exchange the occasional quip on Twitter. I wasn’t aware she had left “the WordPress community” (God I’m using that word community a lot lately … where is Tigre when I need him to give me a good kick in the ass?). I’ll have to check out what she’s doing on Facebook. Of course, those few bloggers who know me on Facebook (Hippie did, VirgoMonkey, Fakename2) also know my “true identity” GASP!

    I’m barely in any condition to mentor my daughter much less anyone else. LOL. I haven’t seen a political Tweet from Sensico in a while. I’ll go check out what she’s up to.

    By the way I gave a brief tribute to Hippie on my radio show this afternoon and signed off with his song “Knight Job”. Anything to keep the legacy alive boys!

  • 132. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:21 am

    Actually, Rabbit I went back and read that gem you unearthed from my oeuvre from a year ago and what I found the funniest was the second comment …. Elric complaining about Muslims when the article had nothing to do with Muslims. ROTFLMAO! I’ll say this, of all the qualities you guys possess, loyalty is probably your most virtuous. Not a single one of you has sold out ole Elric even after all this time. (Well, Alfie did finally kick him off his blog.) :-)

    As for the article itself, what a difference a year makes. Then again, that remains to be seen. I’ll eat a full plate of crow on November 3 if need be.

  • 133. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Every now and then I get a fun caller on my show. Today in defending Colorado’s Ken Buck, our caller “Joe” told Sandi that 25% of date rape accusers are lying. You guys got a get yourselves a show if only to savor moments like these. :-)

    Oh my fav from Joe was actually when I asked him to say his name and location and in a solid New Yawk accent he said “yeah yeah yeah, I’m Joe…” with the kind of attitude of “stop pretending you’re a radio host assh*le and just let me talk”. ROTFLMAO :LOL:

  • 134. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Yeah, I am the Head Delegate for a world renowned, award-winning team that takes part in diplomacy competitions modeling the real UN, and am being primed to run my own team at a different university. But I am clueless about what the UN is really all about. Please don’t tell anyone. I’d hate for real the real diplomats who think I know what I’m doing to discover our little secret.

    “There’s no sense me arguing with you because…”

    Because you don’t know what you’re talking about. That’s why you had to offer that lame-ass article (that is years old) and now you can’t even defend it. Instead, having to resort to childish, unsubstantiated accusations of “Jew hatred.”

    As I told you the last time we went down this road…stick to biology.

    “Cholesterol count is generally meaningless, unless you suffer from familial hypercholesterolemia”

    I do.

    “The ratio of HDL to LDL is what you need to focus.”

    I am.

    I’ll be sure to tell my doctor not to bore me with all of his garbage information next time, because a guy on the internet who dropped out of med school has informed me that it isn’t important.

  • 135. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Huck, did you not read comment 131? I think it kinda made your swipe at Tex unnecessary. I don’t often come to Tex’s public defense but in this case I think he was trying to provide genuinely helpful information with his usual poor bedside manners. like Jim Dougan you on occasion provide some excellent information Do you know how hard it is for Tex to say that given some of your prior squabbles?

    As for the United Nations argument, I’m with you on that one. I tend to find your take on foreign affairs and comparative religion a bit more credible around here.

  • 136. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Yeah, I am the Head Delegate for a world renowned, award-winning team that takes part in diplomacy competitions modeling the real UN, and am being primed to run my own team at a different university. But I am clueless about what the UN is really all about. Please don’t tell anyone. I’d hate for real the real diplomats who think I know what I’m doing to discover our little secret.

    ** GUFFAW **

    Do you have secret fraternal organization too, where you make up names and talk about girls you’ve kissed? I’ll be sure to add it to my list of your famous world class expertise. World renowned, head delegate at Podunk U. Your claims of greatness struck me particularly funny.

    Here, defend this…

    A quick glance at the council’s membership roll should disabuse any objective observer of the seriousness of the UN’s preeminent human rights body. Libya joins such human rights paragons as China, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia to sit in judgment of other countries’ human rights abuses.

    The same logic that made you a lard ass, is the same fine reasoning making you a big fan of the U.N.

    That’s why you had to offer that lame-ass article (that is years old) and now you can’t even defend it.

    Updated 2008 – years old. Don’t take any math classes, hey? You want more links? I picked a simple one, but I can provide everything from the NYT to Jewish papers documenting the fecklessness of the U.N.. Take your pick.

    Instead, having to resort to childish, unsubstantiated accusations of “Jew hatred.”

    A blind man can see this – rabid Jew hatred.

    As I told you the last time we went down this road…stick to biology.

    I did. :wink: And it’s biochemistry – not biology. I don’t care if you discard what I told you but…I’m just telling you that a total cholesterol number doesn’t tell you much.

  • 137. El Tigre  |  October 18, 2010 at 10:22 am

    R said: “God I’m using that word community a lot lately … where is Tigre when I need him to give me a good kick in the ass?”

    Don’t worry. I’m keeping track. It’s gonna hurt later! ;)

  • 138. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Here’s some facts about the U.N. for our CEO of the world-renowned “diplomatic” expertise conglomeration of Double Secret Probation Society..

    While innocent political prisoners suffer in North Korean concentration camps, slavery still persists in too many parts of the world, and millions are murdered in Africa, the UN Human Rights Council’s attention has been obsessively focused on Israel.

    In 2007, of the nearly 200 countries in the world, Israel garnered the most actions taken by the council. In 2008, the council’s number one target was Israel. In 2009, the council’s number one target was Israel. Guess who has been the council’s number one target so far in 2010?

    Sudan? No, it is Israel.

  • 139. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 10:43 am

    Tex, seriously, why is it that anyone who questions Israel’s foreign policy is a Jew-hater? I fear your American exceptionalism is bleeding over into Israeli exceptionalism. ;-)

  • 140. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 10:46 am

    Assuming your stats in #138 are correct, then I grant you that on the surface the UN’s priorities do seem skewed. I still don’t think that makes them Jew-haters.

  • 141. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 10:48 am

    And THAT my friends is why theocracies are so dangerous. Yes, Israel is a democracy but what do we think of when we think Israel? We think Jewish. A Jewish state is just as toxic as a Christian state or a Muslim state. When we mix politics and religion we get into heaps of trouble,

  • 142. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 11:00 am

    “R”, no need to defend, if that was a defense. :lol:

    I was simply trying to help Humpty Dumpty out in case his M.D., most who are notorious for either talking over their patient’s heads or not spending ample time with patients, hadn’t been clear about what the test results meant. I always hear the generic term “my cholesterol count is…” with 200-300 always being the magic number, which is meaningless unless the count above 300.

    What I have always thought was ironic in my foes slamming me being “medical school” dropout, was the fact I was in medical school. I wonder if they have any idea the number of people who are accepted into medical school of choice – especially the non-traditional routes? In my own state of 4MM, only 238 applicants get accepted each year (in addition to 10 bridge students who didn’t qualify from their MCAT scores) and you can’t even apply if you don’t get an average score or above. I didn’t get into medical school being a marginal student. Oh well. :neutral:

    But at least now you can see why it’s difficult being completely cordial and reasonable on a blog.

    As I gave thought to Jim last week and how much I will miss our conversations, it occurred to me that many people may take this debate far more seriously than I do. I do this out of sheer boredom, and unless it’s something personal one shares, I forget about it at the end of the day.

    I have been wondering after getting hit in the gut about Hippie’s death, if I had actually been a positive or negative force in Jim’s own life. It occurred to me I could have been much more helpful if I had set my mind to it. These are after all, real folks I’m taunting – and if I really wanted to change minds (I could care less), it would be far more effective to adopt Jim’s approach of being a gentleman.

  • 143. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 11:13 am

    Tex, seriously, why is it that anyone who questions Israel’s foreign policy is a Jew-hater? I fear your American exceptionalism is bleeding over into Israeli exceptionalism.

    I don’t. It’s what Israel’s enemies like Huck question that I question. Israel has a right to a peaceful existence and the right to be sovereign. It has every right to protect itself. Both have been threatened from the 1st day of her new creation. It’s very much like your double standards that you hold in politics.

    Your analogy about theocracy above is laughable. Do you have any idea how many Arabs reside within Israeli borders? If you really were honest and your concern wicked theocracies, why do you fail to mention Saudi Arabia, or Yemen, or Libya, or Syria? I mean, your analogy is beyond wrong; it’s perfectly silly.

    My facts listed above are correct.

    Rutherford, if you had any idea the the absolute prophetic accuracy of the eschatology of what is happening right now in Israel, more specifically Jerusalem, I guarantee you would change your tune and your stances. I’m telling you that you are on the wrong side of this equation.

  • 144. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 11:26 am

    no need to defend, if that was a defense. :lol:

    LOL, with defense attorneys like me, who needs prosecutors? ;-) (I’m sure BiW and Tigre will appreciate that one.)

    Tex, regarding Hippie … I’ve been meaning to write you offline and hopefully will get around to it today.

  • 145. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 11:30 am

    I did mention Muslims states in my comment above. Plus, I think I read somewhere that Iran has the largest Jewish population in the area outside of Israel itself. The fact that a theocracy allows other faiths to reside within it makes it no less a theocracy.

    Now, again, I understand Israel is a democracy. All I am saying is when any country is identifiable with one religion then it becomes impossible to separate criticisms of state from criticisms of religion.

    While BiW might differ on this, to my mind, a criticism of the United States is NOT a criticism of Christianity nor is it ever perceived that way. But a criticism of Israel is perceived as a criticism of Judaism. There’s a problem there.

  • 146. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    While BiW might differ on this, to my mind, a criticism of the United States is NOT a criticism of Christianity nor is it ever perceived that way. But a criticism of Israel is perceived as a criticism of Judaism. There’s a problem there.

    I did not mention Iran in my comparison above, because there is a small Persian Jewish population. But that it is less than 1/2 of what it was before the revolution.

    “R”, I believe the hatred of Jews, more specifically Jewish Zionists, is what drives the irrational hatred of Israel, but like the U.S., the Israeli government is secular. Zionists might be a more apt description.

    Can you name me one country on earth where the following statement is made within days of speaking in front of the U.N. (two weeks ago), and then receives an ovation on the U.N. floor?

    the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime

  • 147. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    a criticism of the United States is NOT a criticism of Christianity nor is it ever perceived that way. But a criticism of Israel is perceived as a criticism of Judaism. There’s a problem there.

    Again, I don’t feel that is an apt comparison. Israeli was formed four years after half of the Jewish population was murdered, with the final solution specifically to eliminate all Jews. In addition to recent history, there is about 3,800 years of Jewish history in Israel.

  • 148. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Back on topic.

    Is Harry Reid even lucid? I can not believe this worm somehow managed to make it to Senate Majority head. Ay yi yi…

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/18/harry_reid_obama_like_the_chilean_miners.html

  • 149. dead rabbit  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Rutherford, I couldn’t stand Elric, and let that be known. Your dead wrong.

  • 150. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Rabbit, you’re the exception that proves the rule (again ;-) ).

  • 151. dead rabbit  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Oh man. Being Zorastrian, Ba’hai, Christian, Jewish or 5er Shitte is not fun in Iran.

  • 152. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    I mean, your analogy is beyond wrong; it’s perfectly silly.

    Tex, that, and his “community” kick are two things that he seems stuck on lately.

  • 153. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    “R”,

    Can you answer a question for me? This is a serious one. Well, kind of serious. But first, let me state that while I think John McCain a man with an admirable war story, I also know he’s not terribly bright. And that alone cost him the election against a charismatic but very weak Obama – possibly two of the worst debaters I’ve ever witnessed on the public stage. We have better debates here over part-time city council jobs.

    Having said that, I don’t watch network news anymore. I mean never. So when did a dumb Senator’s even dumber daughter become a folk hero? Meghan McCain is so dumb, listening to her is like listening to a Valley Girl. Watch George Will civilly eviscerate Meghan. Even more outrageous, listen to how objective the lackey and fellow Huck Jew hater Christiane Amanpour is in her questioning.

    This is so bad, it ought to pass for Saturday Night Live. George Will, if you read this, what in the hell is a smart man like you doing on this stage?

    http://www.breitbart.tv/george-will-handles-christine-amanpour-and-meghan-mccain-on-this-week-round-table/

  • 154. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    I have some news for Matthew Dowd and Meghan McCain. You don’t understand the Tea Party movement; you don’t understand the anger; you don’t understand much of anything Conservative. And you need to change your party affiliation to Progressive, Pinko, or Poverty before we savage your sorry asses further.

    Because they/we/them/us are not only mad at Washington D.C. and Barack Obama, and corrupt business and CEOs, and welfare both corporate and personal, we are mad at you.

    Time for you to return to your small circle of no influence and hide – especially you Meghan, because frankly if you weren’t a Senator’s daughter, nobody would give a shit what you think.

    Jim Dougan was right. The former Republican party was chock full of dumb asses. And they are now experiencing what it is liked to get mowed. If it weren’t for the Tea Party types, Rutherford would have gotten his wish that the former flunkies who head the Republican party would have joined the Whigs.

    Shut up Meghan; shut up Matthew. Your days are over…

  • 155. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Since I like to share information, my story of my coffee table my daughter waxed with her toe nail polish remover, and for anybody looking for a fun hobby.

    For almost two weeks, I have fought restoring a coffee table that my youngest daughter made with nice foot mark – a perfect removal in a foot/toe shape made with acetone on the finish. The professionals wanted $400 to refinish it. I did it for about $75 and a million dollars of headache and learning experience, being I had to sand it back to wood “twice”.

    Here’s a heads up for you guys that like to do this and are rank amateurs like me. If you ever strip a piece of oak furniture, I learned at least three things the hard way.

    First, after you’ve stained the piece and are satisfied, and assuming you are using oil based stain, let it dry three times the length the manufacturer tells you to. I’ve had perfect drying conditions of about 75 degree Fahrenheit and 30-35% humidity, and still it wasn’t dry enough after 24 hours, causing “fish eyes” on the first polyurethane finish – bleed back through the polyurethane that leads to something that actually does look like a fish eye.

    Second, once you are sure the staining is dried, the sealant sold isn’t worth a crap and may not even be compatible with your finish, no matter oil based. An old timer taught me a simple lesson. Using an oil-based brush, paint on a thin coat of mineral spirits over the stain, then let it dry thoroughly. This will close the wood pores and prevent bleed thru of the stain through the polyurethane finish. I assume this holds for any oil based finished like shellac or lacquer.

    Finally, there is only one hope of no brush marks or bubbles in your polyurethane finish if your brushing. I ruled out trying to use my Wagner Power Painter. No matter what you read, or what anybody else recommends, thin your polyurethane with mineral spirits and minimize your brushing. At first you will see brush marks – but as the finish begins to evaporate and dry, these will disappear if your mix thin enough. This last one has caused me two weeks work of frustration. I’ve found about a 1/3 mixture of mineral spirits to 2/3 polyurethane works best.

  • 156. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    Now Tex, I know its unseemly to ask you to reveal your daughter’s potentially bizarre behavior but I’ve been wondering since this “story broke” how your teenage daughter’s foot wound up on the coffee table in the first place.

  • 157. an800lbgorilla  |  October 18, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    You will have to provide a picture of this work of art!

  • 158. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    Jim Dougan was right. The former Republican party was chock full of dumb asses.

    I hear teeth gnashing in a cloud directly over my house right now. Since Jim has been silenced, I shall correct you on his behalf. The “dumb asses” that Jim would (and has) identify/identified would be Sarah Palin, Christine O’Donnell, Jim DeMint and a host of others. I strongly suspect Jim would admire Meghan McCain who despite being raised by an assh*le has emerged as a voice of sensible moderation.

    I watch “This Week” religiously so I saw the episode about which you speak. Matthew Dowd always seems out of place since he is a conservative hiding his light under a veil while George Will is very clear about his ideology. I happen to like George Will although he is often wrong. Will brings much needed intellect to the debate.

    Meghan McCain is your only hope dude. Without Meghan McCain Republicans will be full of only old farts like yourself. You need young voters and Meghan might be able to bring them to you by telling her following not to give up hope on the increasingly loony GOP. I’ve not yet read your Breitbart article, but then it’s Breitbart. ;-)

  • 159. an800lbgorilla  |  October 18, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-radio-flyer-car-092910,0,1784245.story

  • 160. an800lbgorilla  |  October 18, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Jim would admire Meghan McCain who despite being raised by an assh*le has emerged as a voice of sensible moderation” – R

    Where’s that laugh track link?

    Like Ms McCain critiquing Christine O’Donnell for her lack of experience- that kind of moderation? Sounds rather Demish to me, Demish meaning hypocritical. Meghan McCain’s list of experience is ZERO. She hasn’t done shit but live off of others. That alone makes her great Dem material.

    Sorry R, you can have her…

  • 161. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Meghan McCain is your only hope dude. Without Meghan McCain Republicans will be full of only old farts like yourself. You need young voters and Meghan might be able to bring them to you by telling her following not to give up hope on the increasingly loony GOP.

    I consider this prediction on par with the rest of your predictions – null & void; lest we forget one year ago this month you announcing the Republican party going the way of the Whigs if they didn’t listen to you? You certainly nailed that one!

    You really do need to get out of that Connecticut cocoon you live “R”. I can assure you having two daughters not much younger than Meghan McCain, that Megan about as representative of real young Americans as John John Kennedy was. ABC must really be hurting for guests.

    And having Meghan Dingbat McCain on This Week is equivalent to nviting the “expert” cosmetics lady at Wal Mart to provide “professional” commentary. No, less. At least the powderpuff at Walmart had to pay her own bills.

    How did my daughter get her foot imprint on the coffee table? Now when your little Buttercup turns about 13 or 14, if she is like most teenage girls, she will develop this tendency to paint her toenails about once a day. And to get a really good gander at those little piggies for the perfect paint job, she’ll need to elevate her foot somehow. Right? And somewhere along the way, at the most inopportune of times and on the piece of furniture or car dash you hold most dear, your daughter will do one of two things:

    She’ll either paint your counter or dash with red toe nail polish which won’t come off without making a hideous mark on the counter, or she will remove your finish with the toe nail or finger nail polish remover in a most artistic and anatomical perfect outline of foot or hand.

    You can count on it because my sister did the same thing to my parents.

    I’d get a good insurance policy now while you still have the chance. :smile:

  • 162. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Gorilla,

    Where’s that laugh track link?

    ** GUFFAW **

  • 163. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    G, I’m a bit surprised this distinction escapes you.

    Meghan McCain is:
    not running for office.

  • 164. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Tex, LOL … my daughter already wants her fingernails painted which my wife obliges much to my consternation (the girl is six). She has attempted it herself already with minor messes so we’ve told her only Mommy applies the polish.

    This is what I’m up against gentlemen:
    Every now and then my daughter cajoles me into playing pretend with her and her “My Little Pony” set. (OK, macho men you can stop laughing now.). So yesterday we are doing our usual thing and my pony “DayBreak” says hello to her dog “Max”. Max replies “Wut up?” Mmmmm, didn’t learn that from me. I’m already on edge. DayBreak asks Max “what do you do for fun?” Max (my daughter) replies “Pick up hotties.” Thinking like a six year old, I say “pick up potties?” She replies “No, pick up hotties.”

    After I picked my jaw up from the floor, I asked her what that meant. She replied, “I ask cute girls to ride in my car.” WTF??? Where did she learn that sh*t? We sure as hell didn’t teach it to her.

    This is six years old gentlemen. And Tex is lecturing me about 14 year olds. F*ck that. I’m already doomed. :shock:

  • 165. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 18, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Every now and then my daughter cajoles me into playing pretend with her and her “My Little Pony” set. (OK, macho men you can stop laughing now.).

    No laughter from me. My six year old still wants me to play “Thomas the Tank Engine” with him, and now that he can actually speak and make himself understood, its pretty hard for me to say no. The ten year old still wants Dad to get in jedi lightsaber duels with him, and I do that too, just because it’s fun to mock him with my Yoda voice while I school him.

  • 166. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Every now and then my daughter cajoles me into playing pretend with her and her “My Little Pony” set. (OK, macho men you can stop laughing now.).

    Stop laughing? Shoot, I was right there with you. I played Barbie many a time – including them applying make up on dad. Love ‘um while you can Mr. Rutherford, because you will treasure those moments.

    One of my best memories is planting a little tomato garden with my then seven year old. We pampered these beefcake tomatoes (cost me a fortunate in bug spray alone) – and then after we had several tomatoes on the vine, our labs got on through the fence and took bites out of all the green tomatoes but two! :lol:

    Even my little girl (at the time) laughed. Female lab had the runs for a week. Those were great times. Last night I saw my youngest for the first time in six weeks, and then it was to bring her laundry home, which I did for her.

    Remind me and I’ll tell you a damn funny story about my oldest daughter bringing a “chick” home from school for us to take care of – the damn thing got diarrhea and I spent a small fortune nursing Rosie “the Rooster” back to health. Almost killed it forcing water down its throat. Afraid I’m no farm boy.

    I wanted to turn it into a “frier.”

  • 167. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    Or is it fryer? Hell if I know.

    So you do Yoda voice too BiC? I used to be able to make my little girls laugh at making that voice…

  • 168. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    it’s fun to mock him with my Yoda voice

    You ever try that in court? Might be effective. ;-)

  • 169. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Before my tracheotomy I could do a pretty good Mickey Mouse. Damn botched intubation completely took out my upper register (falsetto).

  • 170. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    Before my tracheotomy I could do a pretty good Mickey Mouse. Damn botched intubation completely took out my upper register (falsetto).

    Look at the bright side – you can be Demi Moore without trying. :eek:

  • 171. Hucking Fypocrites  |  October 18, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    “World renowned, head delegate at Podunk U. Your claims of greatness struck me particularly funny.”

    Like I said before. I have to drive to my university. It isn’t near my home. I’m sorry your online college didn’t give you that experience.

    You don’t know jack shit about where I go to school. Or that it has been named one of the “Best in the West” by USA Today. And our MUN program is one of the oldest and most successful in the world.

    “Updated 2008 – years old. Don’t take any math classes, hey?”

    Check your calendar, asshat.

    2010 – 2008 = 2

    2 makes something plural. Plurals end in “s”.

    Like the word “years.”

    So before you criticize my math, you might want to work on your English. You seem to have forgotten some since you dropped out.

    And so what that some rouge country was put on the SC? Again I ask..how does that effect the US? Has the SC stopped us from doing anything we really wanted to do? No. it hasn’t. Go ask Saddam Hussein if you don’t believe me.

    I’ve never denied the UN to be toothless or to have tunnel-vision tendencies. My entire point of all of this is that it doesn’t hurt the US to be a part of it.

    Until any of you can prove that being in the UN actually hurts the US, keeps us from doing whatever we want, and infringes on our national sovereignty, you have not made a good argument as to why we should not be a part of it.

    You folks with dual citizenship or whatever it is that drives your undying love for Israel can include Israel in your argument about the US and the UN all you want. It is a red herring that has no place in the discussion, and its only purpose is to make up for the fact that you cannot answer the questions I have posed now more than once.

    Rutherford, I was going to give Tex a break and not make him look like a yard bitch. But his “jew hating” bullshit pissed me off. Plus, experience has shown that Tex kicks and screams like a child when someone disagrees with him, so I figured preemption was the best course. And I was right.

  • 172. dead rabbit  |  October 18, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    damn….check out Barny’s boyfriend. He says “dude” more then I picture other political spouses saying.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/17/barney_franks_boyfriend_heckles_gop_opponent_after_debate.html

  • 173. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Humpty Huck, you’re such an enigma to me. Politically, you’re generally pretty intuitive – even clever with Rutherford sometimes in your response. But this rim licking your have with anything Muslim is really contradictory. You’re more like Joy Behar in your assessment. So I call you on your Jew hatred – and you do hate Israel and have since I’ve met you.

    Like I said before. I have to drive to my university. It isn’t near my home. I’m sorry your online college didn’t give you that experience.

    Normally, I would mock you. But this was so lame, it doesn’t require a retort.

    Check your calendar, asshat.
    2010 – 2008 = 2
    2 makes something plural. Plurals end in “s”.
    Like the word “years.”

    Your ignorance is again on display. Just admit that’s why you’re a psychology major and be done with it. Years generally indicates many, as in poly. Two does not constitute many – it doesn’t even constitute few. Therefore, I’ll let your stupidity stand on its own.

    I’ve never denied the UN to be toothless or to have tunnel-vision tendencies. My entire point of all of this is that it doesn’t hurt the US to be a part of it.

    Yeah, it does. You’ll make a great school teacher – right up the NEA poop chute. Spending $1.08 billion dollars a year is not chump change and the U.N. has been absolutely worthless to the U.S. More often then not, this POS has been adversarial to the U.S. – from the oil for food scandal, to the blue helmets running from the fight in Somalia, to the rabid Jew hatred, to really bad diplomatic behavior including getting away with murder, to the mass rape in the Congo, to a joke of a Security Council, to providing a microphone for despots around the world to bad mouth America in America, to providing absolutely no support in Iraq when Saddam thumbed his nose at 16 U.N. resolutions. Now you tell me what we are getting for our 22% of the U.N. budget Humpty?

    It is a red herring that has no place in the discussion, and its only purpose is to make up for the fact that you cannot answer the questions I have posed now more than once.

    Oh please. Red herring my ass. I ought to go get a bunch of my Jewish friends to come over here and rip you a new asshole for sheer stupidity. They’d chew you up and spit you out. And you’ve never given me a question that even rated challenge, much less one I couldn’t answer.

    Go play Double Secret Probation about the U.N. at school pinko. Only a dishonest creep like you would minimize Cuba and China being on the U.N. Security Council. Creeps like you minimize Katyusha rockets falling in Israeli schoolyards too. No wonder you’re running to play catch up.

  • 174. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Look at the bright side – you can be Demi Moore without trying. :eek:

    Holy sh*t. Either I said this on some long ago blog thread or you have friggin’ ESP Tex. On a business call shortly after my acquiring my trach, a woman colleague told me I sounded like Demi Moore. After a pregnant pause she said “I mean that in a good way.” ROTFL :lol:

  • 175. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Tex, you’ve leveled one helluva of a litany against the UN. While I tend to believe Huck’s version (toothless but not malignant) your list makes me wanna do a little research. It sounds like the kind of anti-Democrat propaganda you usually spout.

  • 176. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    BTW FWIW (how’s that for multiple abbreviations?): I too find Huck a bit of an enigma. I’ve never met a staunch conservative so clear headed about religion. ;-)

  • 177. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    I need to correct my last post.

    In my zeal to mock Humpty, I mistakenly said Security Council – Human Rights Council should have been provided.

    P.S. – Rutherford; I think I told you some time back while listening to your radio show, you sounded like Demi Moore and you thought it funny… So did I.

    Was last weeks any good. I’ve got two days to kill and am NetFlixed out. :wink:

  • 178. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Rutherford,

    Tex, you’ve leveled one helluva of a litany against the UN

    That’s a very partial list Rutherford…the U.N. is an abomination. And Humpty’s support of it is almost as ignorant as his supposed “clear headed” vantage on the worth of an immortal soul. He’s one missed tick from eternity and his concern is the U.N. :roll:

    It’s hard for me to believe what just happened with Hippie and you are so arrogant to not contemplate, “What really happened?” Do you have any idea with the value of what you are playing with Rutherford?

  • 179. dead rabbit  |  October 18, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    “You’ll make a great school teacher – right up the NEA poop chute.”

    with no disrespect to Red Pill, for some reason that made me laugh out loud

  • 180. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    With respect to my pal Rabbit, I meant no disrespect to the teaching profession – but I abhor dishonest hacks like the NEA. Tex’s little sister:

  • 181. dead rabbit  |  October 18, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    I kind of miss having internet battles with Tex. I’m going to start one with him this weekend. I just need to find the topic.

  • 182. Tex Taylor  |  October 18, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    I’ll talk like this to you Rabbit if you do. :lol:

  • 183. dead rabbit  |  October 18, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    lol….Tex…even if I did take disrespect to the comment, which I didn’t in the least, the poop chute part would still have made me laugh out loud.

    To be honest, I’m starting to get disgusted with the profession myself. Another teacher got busted from the high-school I went to as a kid for having relations with a student.

    It’s sickens me. I now know the embarrassment the few good people in the clergy must have felt on the eve of Marten Luther.

    I almost miss being lambasted by you.

  • 184. dead rabbit  |  October 18, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    your on a roll tonight. cracking up, for realz

  • 185. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    Talk about revisionist history … in what alternate universe has the Rabbit and Tex ever been at each other’s throats? Musta happened on another blog cos it sure as hell never happened here.

    LOL In fact I remember back in the day accusing Rabbit of being Tex’s crony and the response was akin to “I follow no man!”.

    Heck Rabbit … Tex is even patient with your religious ambivalence (if that is the best way to capture it).

    Speaking of religion, Tex, if death up close and personal was enough to bring me to the Lord don’t you think I would have arrived by now? While I miss Hippie greatly, he is hardly my first loss.

    Let me share a bit of video I saw recently … not sure where to find it on the net. It was video of Pat Tillman’s funeral. A few of the mourners there expressed their belief that he was in the loving arms of God. His brother got up to the microphone and said (I paraphrase but I’m very close):
    I thank everyone here but let’s be honest. Pat didn’t believe that stuff. He’s f*ckin’ dead. That’s all. He’s f*ckin’ dead.

    Now lets not fool ourselves, part of what motivated Pat’s brother’s anger was the lies that had been told about his brothers death. But still, in the face of a great loss, he wasn’t buying the heaven thing.

    On the other hand, you know what is odd? When I closed my show yesterday I said “Hippie, you’re rocking and rolling in heaven buddy.” Now strictly speaking, I don’t believe in heaven. But I have to tell you, it gives me comfort to believe he’s up there … maybe even getting my Mom and grandparents up to date on my blogging “career” that started after they departed. :-)

    P.S. Yeah Tex, if you’ve got time to kill you might wanna give the last episode a listen. You’ll love the dude who called in at the end named Joe. LOL

  • 186. Rutherford  |  October 18, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    OK first … yeah the mofo hit Monopoly right on the head. The longest damn game play time in history and how it’s lasted this long is amazing.

    But second, one thing that bothers me and I noticed something similar on TV the other day: The video starts with “All strong cuss words are bleeped”. From what I could hear, only f*ck was bleeped. More to the point n*gga and bitch got through clear as day.

    The other day on TV someone said something like “goddam bitch”. The goddam got bleeped but the bitch got through. BTW, it wasn’t a black person talking at the time. Anyway, I do have to wonder what has happened to society that bitch has currently become ok to say on free TV. I’ve pretty much surrendered to hearing the N word. Can’t fight it when brothers themselves are stupid enough to say it. But there is too much bitch going on nowadays.

  • 187. Tex Taylor  |  October 19, 2010 at 12:24 am

    Rabbit and I duked it once on Chen’s blog, before we had each other laughing so hard at the other’s put downs, we decided we liked each other. At least I confess to like the Rabbit. Only he knows what he thinks of the Tex. Rabbit is the one I would choose to have a beer with if I could only pick one of you, mainly because I think we share the same interests and our humor similar in nature. Was Lee good tonight, or what Rabbit?

    Rutherford, man I love you buddy, but I need to take this particular subject off the board, because I simply do not want to say what I need to say in a public forum.

  • 188. Tex Taylor  |  October 19, 2010 at 12:27 am

    P.S. Yeah Tex, if you’ve got time to kill you might wanna give the last episode a listen. You’ll love the dude who called in at the end named Joe.

    I’m impressed you get people to call in. I figured this blog radio thing would never take off and you and the Misandrist would be left talking to each other. Maybe I “misunderestimated” the possibilities of the forum.

  • 189. El Tigre  |  October 19, 2010 at 8:15 am

    Waaaaaay off topic, but R, you said: “The video starts with “All strong cuss words are bleeped”. From what I could hear, only f*ck was bleeped. More to the point n*gga and bitch got through clear as day.”

    All I could think of was one of the funniest Onion videos ever. Notice which words they bleep and don’t:

    http://www.theonion.com/video/use-of-nword-may-end-porn-stars-career,14174/

    (I apologize if this is too crude — it’s just funny as hell to me).

  • 190. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  October 19, 2010 at 11:31 am

    Now lets not fool ourselves, part of what motivated Pat’s brother’s anger was the lies that had been told about his brothers death. But still, in the face of a great loss, he wasn’t buying the heaven thing.

    R, you’re old enough to understand that funerals are for the living, not the dead. Tillman’s brother wasn’t comforted by it, and that’s fine, I can even identify, but I’d also wager that there were others present who took some comfort from it.

    I remember sitting at my Dad’s funeral service, listening to my uncle speakikng from the pulpit, in the church that my Grandfather built and led for so many years, and wondering just who he was talking about. Then I looked over and saw the looks on the faces of my grandparents and my aunts, and I let go of my own take on the situation. My Dad’s religion was science, despite it’s inherrent inability to answer any of the difficult questions, and the irony of him being in that building was not lost on me. On the other hand, it wasn’t like he had any say in the matter, either.

    While it’s lead to a few awkward moments since when talking to the boys (Heir No. One at least remembers visting Grandpa in the hospital, Heir No. Two was only a baby), I’ve managed to make my peace with it after a few conversations with my father-in-law about it.

  • 191. Rutherford  |  October 19, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Tigre … from your Onion video: “It’s filthy and disturbing … in a bad way” ROTFLMAO …. as opposed to the good way of being filthy and disturbing!

    The Onion always gets it right! :-)

  • 192. Rutherford  |  October 19, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    Well BiW, you might remember from one of my old posts that I’ve had my own adventures with funeral situations. Ultimately, you are right … they about and for the living, not the dead.

  • 193. dead rabbit  |  October 19, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Man…every now and then I long to go back to Iceland. They were really into this tripped out electronic music at the time (which I’ve come to respect). They would play these songs right in the town square of Reykjavik. I can clearly remember this song in particular. And man…the chicks……wow.

  • 194. Tex Taylor  |  October 20, 2010 at 12:47 am

    I actually took a few minutes tonight to watch Butch Madcow – some masochistic tendency I suppose.

    However, I was so happy to find that MSNBC’s dismal ratings have forced Butch to actually invite “conservatives” on the show. And who is Conservative in Butch’s book?

    Meghan McCain. :lol: Now she’s got somebody on that worked in the McCain program bad mouthing Sarah Palin – Nicole Wallace or something like that.

    This is actually so bad a show, it’s pitiful – and Butch is absolutely gleeful with herself.

    MSNBC will follow Newsweak one day – sold for $1.00. Some buyer will be getting ripped off in the process.

  • 195. Rutherford  |  October 20, 2010 at 12:59 am

    Tex, it always saddens me when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Maddow has had any conservative with the balls to accept the invitation. Rand Paul announced his candidacy on her show. He also got eviscerated by her on a subsequent broadcast.

    I usually listen to Rachel at night while I’m going to sleep (take any sexual implications from that that you like :evil: ) so I will enjoy her interview with Nicole Wallace tonight. Nicole was the only member of the John McCain Female Woman Hater’s Club whom I ended up liking . I always see a little gleam in her eye that tells me she’s just in it for the money and she knows what gobbledeegook conservatives spout. :-)

    Sarah sucks Tex …. how many folks (even some conservatives) have to tell u that before you accept it?

    (Hee hee …. “Sarah sucks Tex” :lol: )

  • 196. Tex Taylor  |  October 20, 2010 at 1:15 am

    Gawd Rutherford, you’re such a pitiful little figure now that Bongo has been deemed by the American public epic failure.

    Maddow has had any conservative with the balls to accept the invitation.

    Butch is the 2nd biggest coward on TV, the first being the queer Olbermann. Going on Butch’s show is like going on The View and discussing issues with Joy Behar.

    Rand Paul announced his candidacy on her show. He also got eviscerated by her on a subsequent broadcast.

    So eviscerated you’ll be saying Senator Paul in two weeks. Butch Madcow has about a 1/5 of the audience that Sean Hannity does – correlating to the miserable ilk that still aren’t ashamed to call themselves the euphemism “progressive.” :wink:

    And finally…

    Of course you would like some Benedict Arnold like Nicole Wallace. Listening to her was like listening to Meghan McCain – gag me with a spoon. Guess I got her name right. You and your wife are so obsessed with Sarah Palin, you literally go to bed thinking about her. Sorry, but I find your obsession humorous – you’re both like groupies.

  • 197. an800lbgorilla  |  October 20, 2010 at 5:37 am

  • 198. an800lbgorilla  |  October 20, 2010 at 5:56 am

    I’ve never denied the UN to be toothless or to have tunnel-vision tendencies. My entire point of all of this is that it doesn’t hurt the US to be a part of it.” – Huck

    Well, let’s look at that for a second.

    The UN’s tunnel vision isn’t about focusing so much on one issue that others fall to the wayside by accident. It’s about a focus on one issue and deliberately ignoring any other issue, especially those that will contradict the claims or position of those wedded to the first issue.

    The anti-Israel position of the UN prevents it from addressing issues anywhere else- not because they don’t have the time to do it, but because it will damage the anti-Israel meme. Case in point, the UN can’t agree on what the definition of terrorism is because if they do, it will hurt a number of causes, most importantly the Palestinian cause.

    As for it not hurting us, how many issues have we had to get involved in outside of the UNSC because it couldn’t/wouldn’t get involved?

    Sure, we can call it toothless, but when we’re suppose to depend on their teeth for international security, well, being toothless does hurt now doesn’t it…

  • 199. Tex Taylor  |  October 20, 2010 at 9:33 am

    You know NY is in very serious trouble when another Cuomo is going to be governor – same with California and Brown; you can kiss them goodbye as you knew them in 10 years or less. Public unions are going to put them out of business, and I believe it is a matter of time before millions start bailing from these cesspools. Make provisions to protect your own state, because these parasites are going to come looking for a bailout.

    I watched part of that NY debate. And far and away the most qualified people in no particular order were the madame, Mr. McMillan, and the Libertarian.

    That’s the truth.

  • 200. Rutherford  |  October 20, 2010 at 10:43 am

    Mmmm Tex, I’m surprised you’re not rooting for the convicted felon, the Madam of Spitzers call girl ring. She’ll bring big money into NY with legalized pot, and legalized gambling. There’s change you can believe in! :-)

  • 201. Rutherford  |  October 20, 2010 at 10:47 am

    So eviscerated you’ll be saying Senator Paul in two weeks.

    God man your political depth rivals that of a kiddie pool.

    That interview with Maddow ended Paul as we knew him. After that Karl Rove and the machine got hold of his ass …. told him to shut the f*ck up and homogenized him.

    The Paul that will beat Conway is not the Paul that won the primary. I will give you this much. Conway’s latest attempt to discredit Paul with the “aquabuddah scandal” is desperate and won’t help him one damn bit.

  • 202. Rutherford  |  October 20, 2010 at 10:56 am

    Could someone tell me why McMillan was wearing gloves? Was it that cold in the auditorium?

    Also could someone decipher for me Jimmy’s closing comment in the video? Something about marrying someone?

  • 203. Tex Taylor  |  October 20, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    That interview with Maddow ended Paul as we knew him. After that Karl Rove and the machine got hold of his ass …. told him to shut the f*ck up and homogenized him.

    Baloney.

    All it did was magnify for most that Rachel Maddow is even more of a liberal hack than people had suspected. Maddow has mastered gotcha politics and nothing else. You say I have a thing for Sarah Palin, even after I admitted she’s certainly not my candidate of choice and a media whore? I say you’ve got this hero worship thing with an incredibly overrated Rachel Maddow.

    Something you seem to ignore. As recently as six months ago, Maddow had lost 1/2 of her viewing audience since the 2008 elections. Her schtick had run its course. It will pick up for a time as the election nears, and then drop precipitously off the cliff again once the election is over. That is what separates her from some real talent like Limbaugh. Anybody with half a brain with a little bit of research can drop a bombshell in a candidate’s lap and make the smartest of people ramble when surprised.

    You take Rachel Maddow and put her on a stage with somebody like Limbaugh, or Mark Levin, or Charles Krauthammer in an open debate, and Rachel Maddow would be destroyed. You’re lying to yourself now. Yes, she’s smarter than Keith Olbermann – who isn’t? But I recognized Maddow as superficial fluff when she went off about the “proof” of why we couldn’t drill in ANWAR during the BP fiasco. She thinks Meghan McCain, the Paris Hilton of politics, representative of the Conservative party? :lol:

    I thought to myself, “Butch doesn’t even understand simple physics.” Maddow is the definition of superficial sophistication.

    And surprisingly, that’s why I think a even blockhead like you a hell of a lot more talented than Rachel Maddow. I’m only half kidding when I tell you that Barack Obama could do himself a favor and get you a job. You realize the need for immediate damage control much quicker than the so-called experts from the lefty media – Maddow included. She ought to be taking her cue from you.

  • 204. an800lbgorilla  |  October 20, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    Madcow…Madcow…Oh yeah, now I know why I was thinking of the bitch, because she’s a lying bitch…

    Ethics-averse Rachel Maddow did exactly that on her MSNBC show last night. After disparaging Republican candidates for their gall in criticizing reckless federal spending and government-controlled health care, Maddow made this jaw-dropper of a claim –

    MADDOW: Yes, this has happened to a smaller degree before. In 1994, in the first mid-term election after the last Democratic president was elected, we got a slate of candidates that included Helen Chenoweth of Idaho and Steve Stockman of Texas. These two were so close to the militia movement in this country that Mr. Stockman actually received advance notice that the Oklahoma City bombing was going to happen.

    … and by that, Maddow implies, Stockman consigned 168 innocent people to death. Except that Stockman received no such prior, uh, “notice” (note how Maddow did not say “warning”) , which explains why Maddow neglected to attribute this outlandish assertion to a source, any source.

    Hate and Change at its finest…

    P.S. The rest of the story…

    That Stockman received the fax after the bombing was also reported in a June 22, 1995 column in the Houston Press by Jim Simmon, titled “God, Guns and Kombucha: Is Steve Stockman a committed crackpot, or just a hapless goofball?”As its headline suggests, this was hardly a puff piece favorable toward Stockman. Nonetheless, Simmon wrote –

    Contrary to suggestions in some earlier reports, Stockman’s office had received the fax after the bombing and promptly passed it on to the FBI. (Ironically, the initial misunderstanding about the fax was propagated by the National Rifle Association, Stockman’s chief patron.)

  • 205. Rutherford  |  October 21, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Ehhhh G, thought you might like to know the awful lying b*tch corrected her Stockman statement on last night’s show saying that she was mistaken in using the word “advanced notice”.

    You see this is what happens when you dudes don’t actually watch her program. You crap your pants without finding out later that the woman has integrity.

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