Brown Insults Teabagger Across the Pond

April 29, 2010 at 12:30 am 152 comments

Gillian Duffy, a retired woman in England could check off many of the membership criteria of the American Tea Party Movement.

  1. She is upset about high taxes.
  2. She is upset about the mounting national debt.
  3. She has a disdain for “the other”, i.e. foreigners.

The exchange between Mrs. Duffy and British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, who was campaigning, showed the woman to be slightly cranky but not sufficiently so to deserve the insult she subsequently got from Mr. Brown. Apparently, her concern about the influx of Eastern Europeans into England did not sit well with the Prime Minister, who got into his limo and called her a bigot, unaware he was still on microphone. Brown later apologized both publicly and at Duffy’s home. (We won’t address the similarity between this and our own recent struggles with the immigration issue.)

On the one hand, it was a real hoot to see a world leader throw politics out the window and call it the way he saw it. On the other hand, his immediate apology proved that what the man says in public does not synch with what he says in private. So, he threw his credibility out the window also.

As for Mrs. Duffy, I am sure she is now a hero to the Tea Party movement here in the US. Move over Susan Boyle, America has found its new idol! I’m just waiting for Sarah Palin to anoint Mrs. Duffy on her Facebook page.

Respectfully,
Rutherford

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  • 1. geoff  |  April 29, 2010 at 2:23 am

    “Teabagger?” How irredeemably crass. It might stun you to know, that despite the Left’s attempts to legitimize that term, Tea Partiers have repeatedly ask that it not be used. Rather than listen to the repeated requests of the vast majority of Tea Partiers, however, Libs have chosen to seize upon a few scattered instances where the term was used.

    It’s inexcusable.

    The only consolation for Tea Partiers is that for every “teabagger” there must be at least one “teabaggee.” Here’s your sign.

  • 2. geoff  |  April 29, 2010 at 2:25 am

    Wow, typo city.

  • 3. an800lbgorilla  |  April 29, 2010 at 5:59 am

    Imagine that, people outside of the GOP don’t like high taxes, mounting debt, or illegal immigration. Hmmm, this must shatter your narrative of the world…

  • 4. an800lbgorilla  |  April 29, 2010 at 6:03 am

    Noooooo, dems never bring race into issues…

    NY Senator: ‘You Racist People In Here’
    Sen. Kevin Parker Hurls Racism Accusations At Colleagues In Albany, Calls Republicans ‘White Supremacists’

    It looks like the circus and childish antics are rearing their ugly head once again in Albany.

    It started as an angry blow-up, and then it escalated. A state senator with a history of anger management issues says his race-based rant was part of his fight against the “evil of white supremacy.”

    Brooklyn State Senator Kevin Parker is a well-documented hothead, and on Wednesday he took to the airwaves to unapologetically defend his latest shouting match.

    “It’s par for the course for what we have to do in Albany – fighting the forces of evil,” Senator Parker said.

    Parker shockingly identified the “enemies” he’s fighting as other senators.

    “These long-term, white supremacist, you know, Republican senators,” he said.

    That followed a free-for-all shouting match in Albany Tuesday where Parker heatedly objected to the questions asked by a white senator, John DeFrancisco of Syracuse, of a black nominee to the New York State Power Authority.

    “John, you are totally out of order, you are out of order,” Parker shouted. “How dare you? You racist people in here.”

    Committee Chair Carl Kruger tried in vain to get Parker to calm down.

    “You’re out of order – why don’t you step outside,” he told Parker. “You’re disrespecting me as chairman. One more outburst like that and I’ll ask you to be removed.”

    Parker didn’t like that one bit.

    “Okay, then get somebody to remove me. Bring people though,” Parker said.

    There have been other temper tantrums involving the senator. Last year he was accused of felony assault after doing $1,000 in damage to the car of New York Post photographer William Lopez and smashing his camera after he snapped Parker’s picture.

    Two years ago, an aide filed charges against Parker, claiming he pushed her during an argument and smashed her glasses. In 2005, Parker was accused of punching a traffic agent in the face. The charges were dropped after parker agreed to take anger management classes.

    Senator Parker is due in court next month on the assault case. Sources tell CBS 2 his attorney is trying to cut a no-jail deal, but the district attorney isn’t buying it.

    The Brooklyn district attorney would like to try the assault case this summer, before Parker has to stand for reelection in a September primary.

  • 5. Tex Taylor  |  April 29, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Not terribly classy of you “R” to continue using homosexual slang term in your title. That’s Curator and Keith Olbermann stuff – leave it alone. You’re better than that.

    You don’t want anyone polluting your blog with sexist, racist and homosexual slang to describe a party, person or thing, do you? You threatened me with banishment one time for calling a fat, black woman ‘Mammy’, remember?

    Leave that kind of junk to the Ugly Kay and Sandi types, who we know are ignorant, partisan hacks. :wink:

  • 6. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  April 29, 2010 at 11:57 am

    “Teabagger” yet again?

    If you insist on continuing with the term, I’m going to have to start asking you how my sack tastes.

  • 7. Alfie  |  April 29, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    Rutherford THIS has now become probably your worse post. Quality,content and level of research are all glaring.

  • 8. Tex Taylor  |  April 29, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    I just had a very interesting conversation with my Hispanic hair dresser – pretty lady, well spoken, not formally educated but smart. Though American born, she is married to a legal immigrant who was granted amnesty back in 1986. So I asked her about the situation and what she thought.

    Here is what I didn’t know. Just to request a form for admittance, the American Embassy charges money. In order for Delores to make request for her stepchildren, she was forced to pay the feds another $4,500.00. It was turned down. Delores explained that there are fees and charges every step of the way with no guarantee of results, and it is actually quite expensive to gain citizenship; especially coming from abject poverty. Impossible really, for most.

    Are you getting the picture? A large chunk of change is required by illegals attempting to make themselves legal. Seems Uncle Sam may share a very large part of the blame, being they want the palms greased for consideration of citizenship.

    This utter bullshit of “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free?” That’s free with a price. Our government is corrupt, inept, inane, and wasteful as hell at every level.

    Perhaps government officials are not real interested in sealing the border? This smacks of the very reasons I am against enlarging the federal government.

    And I will never understand why a reasonably bright guy like Rutherford can’t see that Obama’s path unsustainable, which is really what the Tea Parties are about. And to be honest, neither was Bush’s path sustainable. Obama is just going to beat him to catastrophe a lot quicker.

    Rutherford, I generally think of you an honest guy. But I think to remain honest, you have to turn a blind eye in the name partisan politics. After similar dealings with corporate America that I had, I would think you’d be one of the first demanding real justice, real vindication, and real results.

  • 9. Tex Taylor  |  April 29, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Perhaps Rutherford is confused because he can’t see through the smoke and his screen is fogged. I’m going to do my old friend a favor. I’m going to loan him my personal slave labor without fee because he’s nice enough to let me rant on his blog.

    Clean your screen Rutherford so you can see life more clearly.

    http://www.raincitystory.com/flash/screenclean.swf

  • 10. Alfie  |  April 29, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    @Tex #8
    Yet people come. People line up in front of the embassies and consulates every day. That is why those that skip the line must go

  • 11. Tex Taylor  |  April 29, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Alfie,

    Don’t misunderstand my premise. I agree with you. Illegal means illegal.

    I was just demonstrating that the federal government, the beloved and magnanimous federal government that people like Curator will dedicate their lives serving (if somebody else will pay for it), may not be so benevolent as the Left would like us to believe. And last I looked, a very large part of the Federal government has a big “D” stamped on their asses and on their foreheads.

    Why Alfie, don’ t you know that it is only fear and racism that is driving those people to climb the walls instead of using the benevolent methods as imposed? What’s a little greasing of the palms to a Leftist?

  • 12. LOL  |  April 29, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    I’d like to see some support for this portion of the post:

    “…could check off many of the membership criteria of the American Tea Party Movement….a disdain for “the other”, i.e. foreigners.”

  • 13. Alfie  |  April 29, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    LOL you shouldn’t hold your breath. In his haste Rutherford grabbed the Lions tail to rattle the Eagle and didn’t do either.

    1. She is upset about high taxes.
    Many Britons are although the have very un American perspective on taxes.
    2. She is upset about the mounting national debt.
    This was a big seller in all of the “new thing” leadership debates the UK had for the first time.it is an issue for Labour,the Tories and Cleggs LibDems
    3. She has a disdain for “the other”, i.e. foreigners.
    here is the biggest sourest point imo. The lady in question is actually a Labour supporter but Rutherford and I’m sure the UK version of him too would like to paint her as a crazed BNP member and everything that would be connected to that. Doing that paints the true picture I think one can get and call it R’s intent</em
    Sorry R but I wasn't kidding when I said I found this to be a poor post.

  • 14. Curator  |  April 29, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Imagine that, people outside of the GOP don’t like high taxes, mounting debt, or illegal immigration.

    Listen to her words again Gorilla. She made no reference to illegal immigration. Her beef are with immigrants PERIOD. She seems to have a problem with “eastern Europeans” especially, probably of middle eastern descent.

    So yes she is a bigot. As are many of you here who have a problem with brown skinned Americans who now will have to show papers to prove something we white skinned Americans take for granted.

  • 15. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  April 29, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    a very large part of the Federal government has a big “D” stamped on their asses

    Which is, of course, redundant.

  • 16. an800lbgorilla  |  April 29, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Curator, you’re such a bore…

    Oh, by the way, I’m married to a brown skinned immigrant and she came in legally. You and your ilk play the race card, not me.

    So frankly, you can suck my white skinned cock, and if you ask nicely, I’ll give you the teabag too….

    186 days to go.

  • 17. Alfie  |  April 29, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Curator she is Labour.
    Top immigrant pop=Poland
    2nd = Indian (mostly Christian and Hindu/Sikh
    Middle East isn’t even in the game though the UK Muslim population is overwhelmingly Pakistani
    Labour introduced the ID card for immigrants.
    Point to point to point you are out in the middle of the ocean.

  • 18. Curator  |  April 29, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    I don’t give a fuck what her politics are….she’s a bigot, but somehow Gorilla wants to tie her comments to illegal immigrants when that is not what she said.

    And Gorilla it’s good that you are happily married to a brown skinned immigrant but what does that have to do with anything? Are you so uncomfortable that you have to point that out?

    Did you bring home an Iraqi bride?

    She is American isn’t she? You wouldn’t want Pastor Tex to disown you.

  • 19. dead rabbit  |  April 29, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    This is a great time for the Dead Rabbit, who is made up of 100% Eastern European stock, to jump back into the fray with a big fat Kielbasa for Curator to meat gaze at while he and his boring buddy Rutherford make more tea bagging jokes. In fact, have at my two pirogis while you’re at, you two queer baits.

    Editors note: This tea bagging rabbit loves ad hominid attacks, I’m glad Rutherford’s virtual school yard thrives.

    The woman means Eastern Europeans. Not Arabs. The UK and Ireland has been flooded with Polish and Lithuanians over the last 10 years.

    She also has a right to question illegal AND legal immigration.

    The left loves to censor issues by making certain subjects too taboo to even be a part of the public debate. Heaven forbid someone’s grandma wasn’t eloquent enough for the PC Patrol.

    The lady can ask why the hell so many non-British citizens are roaming her city all she wants. It’s a relevant question.

    When I was in Dublin 3 years ago, Lithuanian “nigers” (as the cabbie called them) were running roughshod slinging drugs and killin’ motherfuckers. I got a good laugh as my Grandpa and Grandma were from Lithuania and quite enjoyed my 10 minute cab ride of minority status. It was odd, I had this strange urge to quit my job and impregnate 5 different women.

    What have I missed since I left this armpit?

    1. I’m stupid for not knowing that the healthcare bill was purposely created in a Byzantine fashion in order to “trick” people into getting healthcare. Awesome.
    2. Rutherford told me any kind of gradual approach to healthcare is inhumane because people are going to die tomorrow. When does the coverage start again?
    3. Obama throws a baseball like such a fucking sissy, I seriously could never take part in any kind of beer summit with him.

    In other words, not much.

    As for the immigration bill in Arizona, the Rabbit doesn’t support it. It’s not up to the state to deal with illegal immigration. It’s up to our worthless and pathetically flaccid Federal government to do it. Cops cruising South Phoenix making people cough up papers is insane. Cart in front of the horse tomfoolery. Throwing them in city jail on the dime of the state of Arizona is letting the Feds off the hook. Any American citizen who gets caught up in this shit because his English sucks should embarrass all of us as Americans. And trust me, it will happen way too many times.

    Build a fucking wall. It’s not rocket science. Seal the border. If Belarus can do it, I think we can. The only good that will come out of this bill is it may force this Administration to do something.

  • 20. Tex Taylor  |  April 29, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Dead Rabbit, damn good to have you back man. I was making fun of Noodle Arm Obama and there was no one to appreciate like you could.

    I knew Obama was not much of a man. No doubt now that Obama is a pussy. :razz:

  • 21. Tex Taylor  |  April 29, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    So yes she is a bigot. As are many of you here who have a problem with brown skinned Americans who now will have to show papers to prove something we white skinned Americans take for granted.

    Oh Gawd. What is this horse shit? Curator, first you insult Gorilla’s wife because you’re too lame and weak minded to one up him in a debate, and now you’re going to drone on about your purity?

    I’ll ask Delores, my pretty Hispanic girlfriend, to wear latex gloves next time she cuts my hair. I want to keep myself pure too, though I had to take my hood off and put my Bible down as I sat in the chair this morning. :roll:

    What happened? Did you flunk your internet final, or did they strip away the COLAs for the administrative help out at the university this year?

  • 22. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  April 29, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Maybe his government union failed to negotiate a seven percent pay increase this year.

  • 23. LOL  |  April 29, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    “I don’t give a fuck what her politics are….she’s a bigot, but somehow Gorilla wants to tie her comments to illegal immigrants when that is not what she said.”

    Who gives a fuck about any facet of this Limey hag? This post isn’t even about her. The only reason we are even discussing her is because Rutherford has used her as a vehicle to take another shit on the Tea Party movement.

    Which is why I am still waiting to hear the connection to point #3. How do you tie this woman’s comments concerning “the other” to the Tea Party movement?

    Nobody here has any problems with brown-skinned people. All that claim is meant to do is to get people to have to deny they are bigots. And that denial falls on deaf ears, anyway. It serves no other purpose. And the people tossing it about know that.

    Who we have problems with are brown-skinned people who are in our country illegally. And the same goes for white-skinned people, yellow-skinned people, and black-skinned people who fall under the same catagory. If you aren’t supposed to be here, it doesn’t matter what color you are, GET THE FUCK OUT! It’s really that simple.

    Until you dipshits learn to distinguish between an immigrant and an illegal immigrant, we cannot begin to have an intelligent conversation about this issue.

  • 24. LOL  |  April 29, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    “It’s not up to the state to deal with illegal immigration. It’s up to our worthless and pathetically flaccid Federal government to do it.”

    I think everyone is in agreement with that.

    Do you have any recommendations on how long we should wait for that to happen?

    30 years ago we gave amnesty to 3 million of those poor folks living in the shadows. That was supposed to cure the problem. 30 years later, what is the cure we are looking at—not a wall, but amnesty for 13 million.

    That wall is never going to be built. You know that. We have to do something in the meantime, or 30 years from now we’ll be discussing amnesty for 23 million.

    Until the fed is ready to do its duty to protect our nation from a flood of people entering illegally, a state’s gotta do what a state’s gotta do.

  • 25. LOL  |  April 29, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    And Alfie is right, Rutherford. This post really sucks.

    You contradict yourself right from the start.

    You bring up the Tea Party movement in the first sentence as you compare them to some Limey bitch who talked shit about immigrants in Europe. And then you say “We won’t address the similarity between this and our own recent struggles with the immigration issue.”

    When you know God damn good and well that that is exactly what you are doing!

    We are not a stupid audience here, Rutherford. A post like this insults us, and is beneith you. We expect better, and we know you are capable of giving it.

  • 26. Curator  |  April 29, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    You’re right LOL the thread does suck ass, but I likes me a good fight. :evil:

    As to you’re claim that there is no link to Tea Party and fear of the “other”, I say there is evidence to it but the “liberal” media has not reported it.

    Tea Party supporter, anti-immigrant, anti-jewish and Arizona State Republican Senator Russell Pearce wrote the damn law and is such a good fried of the White Supremacist groups he attends their rallies and sends emails from the neo Nazi group National Alliance to his supporters.

    Florida Tea Partiers held rallies during the health care debate arguing they would have to pay taxes for immigrant health care…. legal immigrants pay taxes too don’t they?

    William Gheen, head of Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee (ALIPAC) and John Armor, a lawyer associated with the American Civil Rights Union are both immigration restrictionists and they both were key note speakers at Tea Party rallies in North Carolina. Why restrict immigration if small businesses are the economic engine of our economy?

    Ada Fisher, Republican National Committeewoman for North Carolina at a Tea party town hall said,“You cannot be one nation under God when everyone’s speaking something different.” Unfucking believable. Talk about being afraid of speaking in tongues. I would have thought she was for that.

    So the Tea Party is largely a white, non-Hispanic phenomenon where almost 60% of them think immigrants take jobs from Americans, and more than half think immigration from foreign countries should be decreased.

    Remember the first formal Tea Party convention in Nashville?

    What did guest speaker Tom Tancredo mean when he said “This is our country, Let’s take it back! Cultures are not the same. Some are better. Ours is best”?

    How about “Patriot Pastor” Rick Scarborough, who said “If this country becomes 30 per cent Hispanic we will no longer be America”?

    Tea party – ‘It’s our country – let’s take it back’

    Take it back from Whom?

    You can’t stand there and tell me the Tea Party does NOT suffer from a level of xenophobia.

  • 27. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  April 29, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    So what’s the solution in Curator World?

    Do you take the stance that there is no problem to be addressed, and then wonder what happened when the overloaded entitlement system crashes the government and the economy?

  • 28. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  April 29, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Tea party – ‘It’s our country – let’s take it back’

    Take it back from Whom?

    How about those who contribute little or nothing, besides a rapacious appetite for what others create with their own labor?

  • 29. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  April 29, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    Cultures are not the same. Some are better. Ours is best”?

    Yeah, I’m sure you’re correct. All cultures are EXACTLY the same. That’s why we have so many people coming here. Because there is NO difference in the culture.

  • 30. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere  |  April 29, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    So the Tea Party is largely a white, non-Hispanic phenomenon where almost 60% of them think immigrants take jobs from Americans, and more than half think immigration from foreign countries should be decreased.

    I’m sure you have citations for all these assertions…

  • 31. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:07 am

    BiC,

    How about those who contribute little or nothing, besides a rapacious appetite for what others create with their own labor?

    Curator and his rapacious appetite by another name. The assertion below of Curator’s pure hokum – but that is being redundant again.

    So the Tea Party is largely a white, non-Hispanic phenomenon where almost 60% of them think immigrants take jobs from Americans, and more than half think immigration from foreign countries should be decreased.

    Please note the “other” category Wally Numb Nuts – and mainly Hispanic. So send us your personal address so we can direct the illegals, brown, black and white so that you may demonstrate your angelic nature, charity, and charming personality.

    http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/az.jpg

  • 32. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:14 am

    HEY WALLY NUMB NUTS!

    By Gawd boy, you need to get Obama off his puny ass and push for immigration reform right now dammit! Take the damn pulpit Script and get after it! Be a hero and be vocal – it will beat peeling potatoes like you did for the military before they ran you off.

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/04/29/Poll-Most-support-Arizona-immigration-law/UPI-55921272544207/

    Of course, Bongo backed off about this year. Gee, I wonder why?

  • 33. LOL  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:20 am

    “Tea Party supporter, anti-immigrant, anti-jewish and Arizona State Republican Senator Russell Pearce wrote the damn law and is such a good fried of the White Supremacist groups he attends their rallies and sends emails from the neo Nazi group National Alliance to his supporters.”

    That law is about illegal immigration, not foreigners in general.

    “Florida Tea Partiers held rallies during the health care debate arguing they would have to pay taxes for immigrant health care…. legal immigrants pay taxes too don’t they?”

    Yes they do. Can you provide a link to that information, so that I can check and see if they were referring to legal or illegal immigrants? It seems some around here have a hard time with the difference.

    “William Gheen, head of Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee (ALIPAC) and John Armor, a lawyer associated with the American Civil Rights Union are both immigration restrictionists and they both were key note speakers at Tea Party rallies in North Carolina. Why restrict immigration if small businesses are the economic engine of our economy?”

    Would quotas count as restrictions? If so, they are already in place.

    While as of 2010 there are no quotas for immigrant spouses of US citizens, quotas for other types of relatives of US citizens have since been instituted.

    “Ada Fisher, Republican National Committeewoman for North Carolina at a Tea party town hall said,“You cannot be one nation under God when everyone’s speaking something different.” Unfucking believable. Talk about being afraid of speaking in tongues. I would have thought she was for that. ”

    This is an issue about language, not nationality. For example, Brits speak English, yet they are not American. And I hear plenty of red-blooded Americans speaking shit that I cannot classify as English in any stretch of the imagination.

    “So the Tea Party is largely a white, non-Hispanic phenomenon where almost 60% of them think immigrants take jobs from Americans, and more than half think immigration from foreign countries should be decreased.”

    Link needed so I can verify what kind of immigrant is being accused of taking jobs.

    The demographic of the Tea Party means nothing. Show us a Tea Party rally where someone that isn’t white wants to attend and is turned away. Then we can talk.

    “What did guest speaker Tom Tancredo mean when he said “This is our country, Let’s take it back! Cultures are not the same. Some are better. Ours is best”?”

    I don’t know what he meant.

    But it can be argued that he did not mean foreigners in general (which is where Rutherford leaves it), since our Western culture involves more than just the US.

    On another note..I love how short our current administration’s memory is.

    Apr 2, 2008

    Sen. Barack Obama, playing campus “Hardball’’ with television’s Chris Matthews, faced that “3 a.m. phone call’’ question today.
    ….
    “Well look,’’ Obama replied, “I am hestitant to engage in hypotheticals like that.’’

    Jun 2, 2009

    INSKEEP: I would like to know which development you think would be more harmful to America’s prestige in the Muslim world, which is worse: an Iranian government that has nuclear weapons, or an Israeli military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities.

    Pres. OBAMA: Well, I’m not going to engage in this hypotheticals, Steve.

    Jun 24, 2009

    DIANE SAWYER: Do you still expect to get health care by the end of the year?

    PRESIDENT OBAMA: Yes.
    ….
    SAWYER: If you don’t, is it over for four years?

    OBAMA: We’re going get it done. So, I won’t engage in hypotheticals in which we don’t.

    6 July 2009

    Asked whether the US would stand in the way if the Israelis decided to launch a military attack against Iranian nuclear facilities, Mr Biden said Israel, like the US, had a right to “determine what is in its interests”.

    White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said Mr Biden was not signalling any change of approach on Iran or Israel.

    The vice-president refused to engage [in] hypotheticals, and he made clear that our policy has not changed,” he was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.

    April 11th, 2010

    Tapper: “President Obama officials say he’s contemplating presenting a peace plan to help jump start the process between the Israelis and the Palestinians. What advice do you give President Obama when it comes to whether or not he should offer a peace plan?”

    Clinton: “Well, I never share advice that I give directly to any president.”

    Tapper: “Well then, hypothetically?”

    Clinton: “Well — and I don’t answer hypotheticals.

    But when it comes to the AZ illegal immigration bill, what words of wisom do we get from our Dear Leader?

    “You can imagine, if you are a Hispanic American in Arizona …” the president said Tuesday at a campaign-style appearance in Iowa, “suddenly, if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you’re going to be harassed.”

    Now I don’t know about anyone else, but that looks pretty damn hypothetical to me.

  • 34. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:39 am

    A quick note about some new habits. Out of financial necessity I will most likely be commenting here at night before bed time while I focus more on my real job during the day. I’ve gotten a bit “lost in being Rutherford” lately and it’s not paying bills that need to be paid.

    I’ll continue to write between one and three posts a week. I am continuing the radio show. I will also check personal mail a few times a day to make sure folks don’t stay in moderation limbo too long. Most of you are old timers who never go into moderation anyway.

    So that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

  • 35. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Now for today’s comments.

    Could we please dispense with the faux outrage about “Teabagger”? The phrase, idiotically enough, originated with the TPM itself. The only difference is they said it with a straight face and libs say it with a smirk.

    FWIW, I avoid using it in the body of posts and comments. It just seemed to add a bit of zing to the headline for this post and writing “Brown Insults Tea Party Member Across the Pond” would have been clumsy and inaccurate. I don’t use the term often so please get over it.

  • 36. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Tex, your “hair dresser”? WTF? You impressed me as a barber kind of guy. Don’t tell me you have a bit of the John Edwards in you. ;-)

    Your anecdote left me puzzled. Your hair dresser gave you enough ammo for you to be VERY empathetic with immigrants and very understanding of those who can’t afford to go legit. So I guess I don’t understand your solution beyond better border control.

  • 37. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Tex, thanks for the screen cleaner … my daughter will get a big kick out of it.

  • 38. dead rabbit  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:50 am

    The Tea Party movement is not the Know Nothing Party. Many in the Tea Party do not support the Arizona bill due it’s libertarian streak that the press loves to ignore.

    @LOL

    Why can a wall never be built? You act like I’m the dreamer? Fishing out illegals AFTER they are here is not the answer. I don’t want the government sniffing our asses like that any ways.

    They arrest a dude who is illeagal, that person should be gone. No doubt about it. But that law was already on the books.

    What’s the purpose of this new law, then?

    A reminder of an old law?

    The old law double strength?

    Or some sort of new approach where Americans have to carry birth certificates on them at all times?

    The Tea Party has shown the power of a grass roots movement.

    Americans overwhelmingly want a wall (or some apparatus that works like a wall), its the business wing of the Republican Party and the race baiting vote sluts of the Democratic Party that don’t.

    The wall can happen if you’re defeatism can step a side for a moment.

    I see it as either two things. An slippery slope expansion of government

  • 39. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:51 am

    I’d like to see some support for this portion of the post:

    “…could check off many of the membership criteria of the American Tea Party Movement….a disdain for “the other”, i.e. foreigners.

    Oh “LOL” newsflash dude … some TPM members are clearly racist. Most, no. Some, abso-fuc*ing-lutely.

  • 40. dead rabbit  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:54 am

    “I see it as either two things. An slippery slope expansion of government”

    awesome 2 pronged argument by the Rabbit. Does sensico still come here. I need that chick around so that I don’t look so stupid.

  • 41. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:54 am

    I love the tactic used by conservatives to vilify their opponent. I say that terminating a pregnancy is complicated and suddenly I am FOR abortion. I say that dealing with illegal immigrants isn’t easy and suddenly I am FOR illegal immigration.

    I have a bit of a problem with the death penalty. I guess that means I am pro-murder.

    Ridiculous.

  • 42. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 12:59 am

    Alfie, the post was not meant to be a thesis on the British eco-political system. It was meant more as a humorous quickie than anything else. Or maybe you really think I believe America will elevate Gillian Duffy to the status of Susan Boyle?

    As I said, I didn’t think Duffy ranted about immigrants long enough to deserve the summary judgment of “bigot”. Still I got a kick out of Brown actually being honest. It was a shame he could only be honest in the back of his limo.

  • 43. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Rabbit, welcome back. The two articles before this might have made you smile a bit … this armpit of a blog did put on a bit of deodorant lately. Give another sniff and get back to me.

    As for the AZ law, I think Rabbit hits the nail on the head, We have fed immigration cops to handle illegals. Local law enforcement should not be bogged down in it. And yes, some ignorant AZ f*ck who can barely string two words together but is as much a citizen as you or I, will end up in jail albeit temporarily. Then he’ll get to sue the cops for wrongful arrest and make a fortune off your tax dollars.

    Anyway, Rabbit for what it’s worth, I did miss you. Pop in at least every few posts so we know you’re dong ok. You are part of this virtual dysfunctional family after all. :-)

  • 44. dead rabbit  |  April 30, 2010 at 1:12 am

    by the way, hi tex, rutherford et al. I’ll be back until I not so dramatically leave in another huff, as per usual.

  • 45. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Rabbit you really do need to read my previous post on the immigration situation. I have made the same argument I think you are making. The AZ law is redundant AND an unnecessary PR nightmare for AZ. The Governor should be impeached if for no other reason than she has thrown her state into the toilet. I haven’t seen any state get this much bad press in a long time.

  • 46. Rutherford  |  April 30, 2010 at 1:24 am

    Gorilla, while I did find Curator’s inquiry disrespectful, you have piqued my curiosity. Is your wife a citizen by virtue of having married you? I ask this only because if that were true, then wouldn’t she have avoided all the citizenship hassles described by Tex in an earlier comment?

  • 47. LOL  |  April 30, 2010 at 1:29 am

    “Why can a wall never be built?”

    It can be. I’d love to see it be. I just don’t think it will be. It’s a bad political visual that is too easily exploited by political opposition, as we are seeing with the rhetoric over AZ.

    “What’s the purpose of this new law, then?”

    Because the old law is a federal law that isn’t being enforced. There was no old law at the AZ state level…so they wrote one. I don’t blame them. You can only wait so long for someone else to protect you before you get to a point where you have to protect yourself.

    Don’t get me wrong. I am all for this being a federal issue. That’s who’s job it is. And instead of building the wall and securing the border properly, we have federal ICE officials pulling people over and asking for birth certificates to make AZ look like pricks.

    The wall will never be built because it might cost a politician some votes. Democrat and Republican. Both have proven they are afraid to do what needs done. And that includes building the wall.

    “Oh “LOL” newsflash dude … some TPM members are clearly racist. Most, no. Some, abso-fuc*ing-lutely.”

    Does that mean you are unwilling to support your blog articles? Or does it mean that you are willing to stereotype an entire group of people based on “some” within it?

  • 48. LOL  |  April 30, 2010 at 1:39 am

    I don’t see what is so damn difficult to understand as to why a state had to pass a law that is supposed to be handled at the federal level.

    You can not like the law all you want. But this “it is redundant” meme is silly.

    When someone isn’t doing a job you need done, what do you do? You can either wait, get someone else, or do it yourself.

    Arizona decided it had waited long enough and that Mexico wasn’t going to do anything about it either. So it is going to do the job itself.

    Arizona is doing the job Americans (politicians) don’t want to do. And I hear that concept is key to the issue of illegal immigration.

  • 49. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 8:31 am

    Rutherford,

    Tex, your “hair dresser”? WTF? You impressed me as a barber kind of guy. Don’t tell me you have a bit of the John Edwards in you. ;-)

    This hairdresser costs me $14.00 bucks and doesn’t get offended when I wear my Klan Hood, carry my Bible, and park my F-150 in front of here beanpole where I sit around and degrade the spics, beaners, and wetbacks while preaching from a chair about God’s word on illegals. :wink:

    Why Curator thought it an insult to own an F-150 is beyond me. I saw one last night and it was better looking that all but a few cars I see on the road. I wished I owned this one.

    Nah, Delores is a talent “barber” and she’s prettier than the guys with the scissors.

  • 50. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Rutherford,

    Your anecdote left me puzzled. Your hair dresser gave you enough ammo for you to be VERY empathetic with immigrants and very understanding of those who can’t afford to go legit. So I guess I don’t understand your solution beyond better border control.

    The point I was trying to make, besides Mexico is such a cesspool I’d be sneaking over the wall too with my family if I lived there, was how bogus our immigration process is and how these fines that are proposed by the phony bleeding hearts to make illegal immigration more palatable while granting amnesty is ludicrous. The illegals don’t have a hundred dollars to their name, but if you can grease the skids of Uncle Sam with several thousand, we can get you moved to the top while you wait, where we will charge you more money you don’t have to live here legally.

    It may surprise you Rutherford, even the reprehensible Curator, that I’m not the hard ass about immigration as you might believe. I have talked and met several of this “illegals” and understand their dilemma better than most Americans.

    First, most Mexicans think a lot more like Alfie, BiC, and me Rutherford than they do you Rutherford when they get here. They are very much like Cuban immigrants of 50 years ago. Generally Catholic and conservative, they don’t believe in aborting children, hate the welfare state, and aren’t homosexually aroused (like liberals). :wink:

    I’ve found most are pretty honest in their dealings. I’ve even befriended a very lonely family who cleans the toilets of a large church late at night, I don’t know what they do during the day, carrying their gorgeous little girl on their hip while they run the sweeper. When my labs were alive, we would sit in the parking lot and the mother would translate between me and the shy father, while the little girl petted my big, easy going dogs. These people who cleaned toilets at night gave me a “Christmas” present because I’d been nice to them. How do you think that made me feel? The little girl, not so little now (maybe 4 or 5) saw me a few weeks back and was very excited about she now had a dog! Yeah, it pulled the heart strings of Tex, as I’m a sucker for little girls.

    I told Delores (the hair dresser) yesterday, and I was very frank, that I thought Mexicans had done a very poor job of assimilating into society, and they need to understand that they must learn the English language and keep their neighborhoods neat. America was not the 3rd world country they’d come from and they should expect no special privileges. But by the same token, we gringos needed to remember what drove many of them here in the first place. It’s the same thing that claimed our ancestors – a chance at a better life for them and their children.

    Bottom line Rutherford is there is a huge amount of hypocrisy by both sides of the political aisle on this one.

  • 51. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 9:27 am

    Gad,,,what the hell is petted Tex! :oops:

    Make that pet my dogs. I am starting to sound like inbred Klan.

  • 52. Alfie  |  April 30, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Rutherford #42
    That comment is a total lie.
    Speaking of papers
    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/95235-democrats-spark-alarm-with-call-for-national-id-card

  • 53. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    RUTHERFORD,

    You’ve got time to watch Oprah, but you don’t have time to get here and take your punishment like a man after these insidious posts? You effeminate lib! Get your ass back to work then! :mad:

    Joke for the weekend…

    Jenny Craig For Men

    A guy calls a company and orders their 5-day, 10 pound weight loss program–

    The next day, there’s a knock on the door and there stands before him a voluptuous, athletic,19 year old babe dressed in nothing but a pair of Nike running shoes and a sign around her neck. She introduces herself as a representative of the weight loss company.

    The sign around her neck reads “If you can catch me, you can have me”.

    Without a second thought, he takes off after her. A few miles later huffing and puffing he finally gives up.

    The same girl shows up for the next 4 days and the something happens.

    On the fifth day, he weighs himself and is delighted to find he has lost 10 pounds as promised.

    He calls the company and orders their 5-day/20 pound program.

    The next day there’s a knock at the door and there stands the most stunning, beautiful, sexy woman he has ever seen in his life—She is wearing nothing but Reebok running shoes and a sign around her neck that reads, “If you catch me you can have me”.

    Well, he’s out the door after her like a shot. This girl is in excellent shape and he does his best, but no such luck. So for the next 4 days, the same routine happens with him gradually getting in better and better shape.

    Much to his delight on the 5th day when he weighs himself, he discovers that he has lost another 20#pounds as promised. He decides to go for broke and calls the company to order the 7/day-50 pound program.

    “Are you sure”? asks the representative on the phone–“This is our most rigorous program”.

    “Absolutely” he replies, “I haven’t felt this good in years”.

    The next day there’s a knock at the door, and when he opens it he finds a huge muscular guy standing there wearing nothing but pink running shoes and a sign around his neck that reads. “If I catch you, you’re mine”!

  • 54. LOL  |  April 30, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    I wonder when Rutherford is going to post on all of those peaceful protests going on over the AZ bill.

    After all, a rock to the head doesn’t hurt that much….

  • 55. El Tigre  |  April 30, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Ruhterford @ #41, and here I thought the libs had a monopoly on that strategy. I never realized that I was in favor or poor people dying of cancer and other maladies until I spoke in opposition to the healthcare bill.

  • 56. LOL  |  April 30, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    Remember when Senator Obama said…..

    the President needs to reign in the rhetoric of his surrogates?

    Then he became the President and rhetoric from presidential surrogates didn’t matter anymore.

    Remember when Senator Obama said…

    Federal ICE agents were terrorizing communities, and that the system needed to be changed

    Then he became the President and ICE actions or the failed immigration system didn’t matter anymore.

    Remember when Senator Obama said…

    we are a country of laws and people who break them should be deported?

    Then he became the President and enforcment of our immigration laws didn’t matter anymore.

  • 57. LOL  |  April 30, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Man, it’s a good thing President Obama is reigning in the rhetoric of his surrogates like Senator Obama once suggested.

    And it sure is a good thing that President Obama enforces the law as it applies to immigration like Senator Obama once suggested.

    I am glad we finally has a president who is man enough to practice what he had once preached.

  • 58. LOL  |  April 30, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    WTF?

    My last 2 comments have been eaten.

  • 59. LOL  |  April 30, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    California reaps what Congress sews.

    It started with a 2008 federal court order that stopped water flowing from northern tributaries on a supposed need to protect a small fish — the delta smelt — that was getting ground up in the turbines of pump stations that divert the water south. The court knew it was bad law, but Congress refused to exempt the fish from the Endangered Species Act and the diversion didn’t help the fish.

    After that, the water cutoff was blamed on “drought,” though northern reservoirs are currently full. Now the cry is “save the salmon,” a reference to water needs of the state’s northern fisheries.

    Whatever the excuse, 75% of the fresh water that has historically irrigated California is now being washed to the open sea. For farmers in the southwest part of the valley, last year’s cutoff amounted to 90%.

    “It’s pretty hard to keep crops alive at 10%,” says Jim Jasper, who runs a 62-year-old almond farm in Newman that employs 170. “That’s one irrigation, and trees take 10 to 12 over the growing season from March to October.” Almond trees cost $8,000 per acre and take six years to start producing, so farmers reserved their 10% allocation for mature trees first.

    The cutoff didn’t kill just trees, however. It also devastated the area’s economy. Unemployment in some valley towns has shot up to 45%. Mortgage defaults are on the rise, and food lines are lengthening.

    But the important thing here is that some fish are kept safe, right?

  • 60. LOL  |  April 30, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Obama on March 31, 2010.

    President Barack Obama announced plans to expand off-shore drilling for oil and gas today, arguing that it is critical to the cause of energy independence and thus a matter of national and economic security.

    Expiration date: 30 days

    In a ‘GMA’ exclusive this morning White House Senior Advisor David Axelrod told me that in the wake of the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, no expansion of off-shore oil drilling will take place until any investigation into how this spill occurred is complete.

    “…what the President has said all he has said is he’s not gonna continue the moratorium on drilling but he hasn’t – no additional drilling has been authorized and none will until we find out what happened here and whether there was something unique and preventable here. “

    So he is supposedly going to stop stopping people from drilling…

    He is just not going to let anyone start.

    See the difference?

  • 61. dead rabbit  |  April 30, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    I guess if Tex allows me the pleasure of ripping myself off by buying 5 dollar lattes from Starbucks with out lambasting me, I can give him a break for going to a “hair dresser”.

    I get my hair cut from an 80 year old Sicilian dude riddled with skin cancer on his face. I swear his nose is going to fall off while he is butchering my skull. And man does he fuck me up. He hasn’t given me a good haircut for a decade. I don’t even live by him now either.

    I drive 35 minutes and he usually thanks me for this by making me wait while I hear him blowing the bathroom up. For such a thin door, you would think I would hear the faucet come on afterwords?

    The guys seems like he belongs on a movie set though. Tough fucker.

    He has great Playboy mags from the 1970’s with that vintage bush. I don’t mind a fat runway strip if its circa ’76 for some reason.

  • 62. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    He has great Playboy mags from the 1970′s with that vintage bush. I don’t mind a fat runway strip if its circa ’76 for some reason.

    :lol: Vintage bush – yeah, I still remember perusing my dad’s collection of vintage bush. Here’s my favorite from ’76, even if she married that dweeb Jimmy Connor instead of me.

    http://www.freeweb.hu/playmate/html/7611.html

    Rutherford will probably kick me off his blog for passing porn, but I’ll guarantee you he’ll look before he boots me.

    Man Rabbit, you still buying coffee at $FourBucks? Dunkin Donuts is better.

  • 63. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Damn you Rabbit…

    Now you’ve gone and blown my entire fantasy. I hadn’t thought about Patti McGuire for years, so I went searching. She’s turned into a lard ass. :lol:

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/candid-candace/assets_c/2009/08/DSC07199-thumb-425×313-11822-thumb-425×313-11823.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/candid-candace/2009/08/playboy-playmates-dominate-glamourcon.html&usg=___FOvAnxHLc7fxLz7faYxPwIdhow=&h=313&w=425&sz=117&hl=en&start=14&itbs=1&tbnid=u8Dks-lRNtWB9M:&tbnh=93&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpatti%2Bmcguire%2Bphotos%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26tbs%3Disch:1

    But there is a good thing. My wife is one hundred times better looking than that Jimmy Connors dweeb.

  • 64. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    :oops: :oops: :oops:

    My wife wouldn’t be very flattered if I really thought she was better looking than Jimmy Connors dweeb. That was supposed to say Jimmy Connor’s wife.

  • 65. Tex Taylor  |  April 30, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Hey Rutherford….clear your mind for a minute and think back about eighteen months. Do you remember when Chen was minimizing the punk that hacked Palin’s Yahoo email and thought it funn?. And I told Chen the punk wouldn’t be finding funny one day and Chen said baloney? That day has arrived:

    KNOXVILLE – A federal jury this afternoon convicted Sarah Palin e-mail intruder David C. Kernell of felony destruction of records to hamper a federal investigation and misdemeanor unlawfully obtaining information from a protected computer.

    Ohhh…Perhaps Chen is this guy and that’s why we haven’t seen him. :razz:

  • 66. Rutherford  |  May 1, 2010 at 12:31 am

    That comment is a total lie.

    Alfie, you said that relative to comment 42? Did you get your comment numbers wrong? So you’re saying I intended to write an exhaustive study of British eco-politics and this is the best I could do? Where exactly did I lie?

  • 67. Rutherford  |  May 1, 2010 at 12:34 am

    LOL Tex, great weight loss joke. Oh and BTW, it takes me 5 seconds to tweet about Oprah but considerably more time for me to give all you guys the respect you deserve. :evil: (Oh and I was watching Oprah while eating dinner. That Rielle Hunter is truly a piece of work.)

  • 68. Rutherford  |  May 1, 2010 at 12:39 am

    “LOL” two of your comments got caught in my SPAM filter for reasons I don’t yet understand. I’ve approved both and they should appear shortly …. where in the thread I don’t know.

    Oh, editorial comment for those who haven’t noticed. When I want to “laugh out loud” I say LOL. When I want to address the new incarnation of our old friend, I say “LOL” with quotes. Hope that clears up any possible confusion.

  • 69. Rutherford  |  May 1, 2010 at 12:46 am

    ROTFLMAO …. call me way jaded but Tex and Rabbit, I don’t even call that old Playboy stuff porn anymore. Not with what is easily available now.

    I recently watched William Shatner interview Larry Flynt and old perv Larry said he’d studied statistical data that proved to him he needed to show lots of poontang in his mag and as explicitly as possible.

    It’s funny, of the three major pornographers, Larry Flynt, Hugh Hefner, and Bob Guccione, only Bob didn’t look totally debased by his 60’s. Maybe cos he spent some of his time publishing Omni? A true Renaissance man! ;-)

  • 70. Rutherford  |  May 1, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Of course Tex, you realize Sarah committed borderline perjury during that punk’s trial, claiming she never used her personal email account for gov business. Oh well, I don’t want her to go to jail anyway. Who would I have to rail against? ;-)

    P.S. Now admit it, since we’ve been discussing naked women, you’d love to see her in a centerfold, now wouldn’t you?

  • 71. Rutherford  |  May 1, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Quick question to Alfie since I didn’t want to clutter your own blog with this question. Why did you disable video embeds on your blog? Beyond curiosity, I’m just wondering if you know something I don’t know regarding any ill effects of embeds.

  • 72. Alfie  |  May 1, 2010 at 10:05 am

    Rutherford first your question. I did it for three reasons.
    1. You Tube adverts and video viral pumping are not why I blog.
    2. I hate unrelated links,I have to draw a line a movies.
    3. They take up too much space in a thread. i don’t get threads like you but I’m still gonna keep what I got neat.

  • 73. dead rabbit  |  May 1, 2010 at 10:12 am

    I think LOL should change his/her name.

    Speaking of unrelated stuff. Big fight tonight. Mayweather vs. Mosley.

    Go Sugar Shane!

  • 74. Tex Taylor  |  May 1, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Rutherford, we need to talk about something more important than oil spills (our largest holding, by the way :sad:) and health care. Something more edgy than tax increases and immigration reform.

    And since Dead Rabbit is back, I think it would be an appropriate time for you to begin addressing the latest Obama scandal. :lol:

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/obama_cheating_scandal_vera_baker_video_/celebrity/68589

    When is the last time the National Enquirer was right about anything? Oh? Rielle Hunter you say? Who was her love puppy?

    Buwahahahahaha…

  • 75. Alfie  |  May 1, 2010 at 10:13 am

    It was meant more as a humorous quickie than anything else.

    Well I took it for than it was meant then. I attempted to give you more credit and that is why my first comment was that I found the post poor.
    Rutherford I took your focus to be drawing relations between the TPM,a Progressive politician and reactions thereof. So either you put forth a half-hearted effort without much thought or I over intellectualized it all.
    Sad since the incident does have true cross Pond similarities,perhaps I’ll post on that and we’ll understand one another better.

  • 76. dead rabbit  |  May 1, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    Tex, I’d be fibbing if I said the 2010 Patti McGuire isn’t still in my wheel house.

  • 77. dead rabbit  |  May 1, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    Oh….I would put a thousand bucks on Obama the narcissist being a cheater.

    Seriously, I’d even give 3 to 1 odds that he might be a homo.

    There is that one weirdo who says he smoked cracked and was gay with Obama.

    I seriously believe 80% of all politicians are sociopaths.

  • 78. LOL  |  May 1, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    Rabbit, I use the name LOL to remind myself to do that once in a while.

    But I’ll consider something else. I wasn’t aware it was causing confusion with others during discussion (though I admit I have had to look at a couple of Rutherford’s comments more than once because of it)

  • 79. LOL  |  May 1, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    “Oh….I would put a thousand bucks on Obama the narcissist being a cheater.

    Seriously, I’d even give 3 to 1 odds that he might be a homo.

    There is that one weirdo who says he smoked cracked and was gay with Obama.”

    I’ll bet Rutherford believes all those stories.

    After all, he believes John McCain called his wife a cunt in public just because some guy wrote about it in a book that got published.

    If someone takes the time to write something, it is obviously true.

  • 80. Bitter Clinger  |  May 1, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Rabbit,

    Tex, I’d be fibbing if I said the 2010 Patti McGuire isn’t still in my wheel house.

    Oh, I’d know you be fibbing if the 2010 Patti wasn’t in the wheelhouse because my libido is right there with you and Rutherford’s. Damn sure doesn’t look as good as it did 34 years ago, however. Hard to believe that much time has passed.

    Of course, about half the women between 18-65 and weighing less than 210 lbs. residing in America are in Tex’s wheelhouse. :smile:

  • 81. geoff  |  May 1, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Could we please dispense with the faux outrage about “Teabagger”? The phrase, idiotically enough, originated with the TPM itself.

    That has already been debunked – in fact I debunked it in the first comment on this post. Why do you cling so dearly to this sort of base insult when you’ve been asked nicely to stop? Obviously it tickles you in some perverse way.

    That will do it for me at this place.

  • 82. Rutherford  |  May 2, 2010 at 12:33 am

    “LOL” you did use another name when you decided to go dark several weeks ago. I can’t remember what it was but I quite liked it. It was a two-word name with some sort of pun embedded in it. Anyway, if you recall it, feel free to return to that one. :-) (If i think of it, I’ll let you know.)

  • 83. Rutherford  |  May 2, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Of course, about half the women between 18-65 and weighing less than 210 lbs. residing in America are in Tex’s wheelhouse. :smile:

    I’d say I’m a bit more particular than that but not much. :-)

    Nowadays you gotta be careful Tex. Some of those 18 year olds are really 17, 16 or even 15. They look older faster these days and thanks to Disney Channel’s family friendly soft core kiddie porn, they learn to behave older too.

  • 84. Rutherford  |  May 2, 2010 at 12:48 am

    While Geoff won’t be back to read this comment, TPM members in the early days talked about “teabagging this” and “teabagging that” so yes, they started the whole silly thing. And Geoff, sorry but your first comment on this post didn’t cite any sources. It gave your opinion which actually doesn’t debunk diddly.

    Here’s a half way point for you — it was a stupid juvenile term for the TPM to start using in the first place, and it is equally juvenile for libs to continue to use it. I will even go so far as to say if someone calls himself an idiot and then subsequently asks you NOT to call him an idiot, then it is wrong for you to continue to call him an idiot.

    So here’s a pledge. I will no longer refer to members of the TPM as “teabaggers”. I hope that makes you and your scrotum happy.

  • 85. Rutherford  |  May 2, 2010 at 12:55 am

    OK, here’s the thing about Obama.

    When I read the article that Tex so gleefully linked to, I definitely had a bad John Edwards flashback. My wife pulled me down from the ledge and reminded me that even a broken clock is right twice a day. And my friends, The National Enquirer is THE broken clock of journalism. So I won’t lose sleep over this just yet.

    However, if the allegation is ever proven true, my Obama days will be over. Everyone knew slick Willie couldn’t control his willie when he got elected. But Obama is a different story. He got elected as a loyal family man.

    It’s sad Tex that you would wish this tragedy upon his family. I do hope it is nothing more than the trash that the NE is known for.

  • 86. dead rabbit  |  May 2, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Yeah, he also was elected as the post racial, bipartisan moderate man.

  • 87. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 2, 2010 at 2:34 am

    “Some of those 18 year olds are really 17, 16 or even 15. They look older faster these days and thanks to Disney Channel’s family friendly soft core kiddie porn, they learn to behave older too.”

  • 88. Tex Taylor  |  May 2, 2010 at 10:32 am

    When I read the article that Tex so gleefully linked to, I definitely had a bad John Edwards flashback. My wife pulled me down from the ledge and reminded me that even a broken clock is right twice a day. And my friends, The National Enquirer is THE broken clock of journalism. So I won’t lose sleep over this just yet.

    :lol: Rutherford, I didn’t “gleefully” link to the article. I don’t even believe it myself as I agree with your wife. I just like to nail your foot the floor and light a fire underneath your derriere to watch you dance around.

    Being a devotee to Marx and Alinsky is more than enough ammunition for me to root for Obama’s demise without his cute daughters being damaged in the process.

  • 89. Rutherford  |  May 2, 2010 at 10:37 am

    Well Tex, that is good to hear …. a human being resides in there somewhere after all. ;-)

    Ahhhh Huck, you rediscovered your old name. For everyone else, Huck and “LOL” are one and the same. I always did like Huck better.

    Thanks for the Tracy Lords link. I haven’t read the wiki bio yet but I am curious … did she get her start on Disney? LOL!

    P.S. Of course we all know that the late Marilyn Chambers got her start as the “Ivory Snow girl”. Truth has always been stranger than fiction!

  • 90. Tex Taylor  |  May 2, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Man, I am glad Rabbit is back is because he reminds me that I’m not the only one who has for all practical purposes given up on politics and politicians.

    I agree that it seems to me that most politicians are sociopaths. Banging someone your daughter’s age in the Oval Office? Male prostitution rings in the basement? Answering your cell phone and turning your back on your audience in a Town Hall? Cheating on your taxes and elected Treasurer? Head of Ways & Means right tax laws, while you’re a tax cheat? Affairs with women in South America while nobody knows where you are, apparently paying for it on the state dole, then when caught, refusing to resign in disgrace? This is textbook sociopathic behavior.

    Then there’s the stupidity factor. Bartering for health care? Think islands might turn over from population density? Think using “shitty” is appropriate language for Senate testimony?

    And we don’t think America is in trouble?

  • 91. dead rabbit  |  May 2, 2010 at 11:43 am

    You got that right Tex.

    It’s sad.

    While George Washington was Utopian in his wish for an America absent of political parties, I swear he’s right. At their very core they now exist as power vehicles for sociopaths.

    The parties are an end to themselves. Rutherford calls their constant hypocritical behavior “sausage making”.

    No, no.

    The parties are parasitic.

    Rutherford and his friends like it this way though.

    They like the machine.

    Why else would they scour the masses at tea parties looking for some regular joe who is a quack but have no problems with a tax cheat running the IRS?

    Normal people rarely run for office.

    You can tell just by looking at the candidates’ bleached teeth and bizarre 700 dollar hair helmets.

    Why do we vote for perverted dandies when we wouldn’t even trust these sick fucks around our own children?

    Ultimately, I blame normal people.

    Normal people aren’t civic minded anymore.

    We don’t even join bowling leagues.

    Why do you think we use the services of the Rutherford Lawson blog so much?

    Because our asses are too lazy to meet people at the Rotary Club, the American Legion, the Masonic Lodge, the Knights of Columbus, the church pancake diner etc. etc. etc.

    Perhaps I’m being overly romantic about all of this. But there was once a time when our opinions required eye contact. And people had the courage to do so. This acted as a filter for some (by no means all) of these professional politician weirdos.

  • 92. dead rabbit  |  May 2, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    What the hell is up with this oil leak? Is this the unmitigated disaster the media is slowly starting to paint it as?

    I don’t blame the late start on this by Obama. What the hell can they do, go to the Super Friends hangout and hire Aqua Man?

    That being said, what a pass he has gotten from the media on this!
    (As usual.)

    I had no idea off shore drilling could wreak so much damage.

    I’m ignorant in this area.

    However, I can’t help but think that maybe the risk-reward element makes off shore drilling not worth it?

    Am I wrong?

  • 93. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 2, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    “Thanks for the Tracy Lords link. I haven’t read the wiki bio yet but I am curious … did she get her start on Disney? LOL!”

    “At the age of 15, she was living with her mother’s ex-boyfriend, Roger. Posing as her stepfather, he helped her respond to classified ads requesting models. Using a fake ID provided by Roger that stated she was 20 rather than 15, she started in the porn industry with Jim South at the World Modeling Agency in Sherman Oaks, under the name Kristie Elizabeth Nussman”

    “What the hell is up with this oil leak? Is this the unmitigated disaster the media is slowly starting to paint it as?”

    Seems that it is. I guess an oil rig caught fire and then blew up. Now there is a oil pouring from the hole it left in its drilling. 10’s of thousands of barrels worth a day.

    Yeah, Obama has gotten another free pass this week. He was yucking it up at a dinner last night while floods were killing people in Tenn., oil is destroying the Gulf, and bombs are being left in Times Square. Chock up another “what if Bush had done it?” for the press.

    Speaking of Tenn….This is not the first time people have been killed by flooding there during Obama’s short watch.

    Why does Barack Obama hate the people of Tennessee? Where is Kanye?

  • 94. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 2, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Just heard on Fox News… a 7′ wide hole that is 5,000 feet under water needs to be capped.

    Thanks a load BP. You have set back our domestic drilling at least 25 years.

  • 95. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 2, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    A 6th flooding death in Tenn. as Obama heads to the Chocolate City for an oil spill that has killed nobody.

    If only Tennessee voters had voted Obama in 2008….

  • 96. Tex Taylor  |  May 2, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    I have a little personal beef with BP right now besides leaking oil. Like 970 shares of it that aren’t going to be worth a dime if they don’t get their act together. Another giant rip off from the Tex’s retirement account.

    I swear, one more and I am going to start holding up banks, selling drugs, pimping and join the rest of society.

    But I think there is more to this story than is being reported. Like how it happened.

  • 97. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 2, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    I was at a conference in this hotel just a month ago.

    Another bomb plot foiled by terrorist ineptitude. The system continues to work!

  • 98. Tex Taylor  |  May 2, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Hucking,

    Nice hotel, isn’t it? Glad I wasn’t paying on my own dime when I stayed there.

  • 99. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 2, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Hotel is nice but the elevators are a nightmare. And thankfully I wasn’t on my own dime, either.

  • 100. Tex Taylor  |  May 2, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    I hope Curator watches this tomorrow so I don’t have to keep repeating my argument here about his claims of saving teachers, and firemen, and policeman, and script writers, and blog owners, and and and…

  • 101. an800lbgorilla  |  May 3, 2010 at 6:02 am

    I’ve been traveling, but it doesn’t look like I’ve much.

    Curator, you- not I- made the comment that we- conservatives- have a problem with brown skinned people. I point out that no, we do not. You further claim we’ve an issue with immigrants, and again I point out that no, we do not.

    It is you and your left wing union asswholes who loath immigrants- keep your facts straight.

    As long as Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck continues to magically vote for Dems consistently and repeatedly every election cycle, I’m not going to fucking trust you frauds with something as important as immigration. You’ve already demonstrated a clear lack of math skills, as defined by Social Security, Medicare, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and any other system of handouts. You are the one that treats social programs as a political piggy bank to by all the votes you can and there is little to no doubt that you have every intention to use illegal immigrants for the same.

    You’re are the fucking bigot. You pretend that somehow you give a fuck about these people, but you don’t. As long as they pull the lever for the right folks, you’ll pretend to give a shit, except that all those little things we find somewhat important, like a knowledge of our founding, ENGLISH, and ability to support the nation- all that is drivel to you. Have you ever taken the time to actually look at the requirements for citizenship? It is very clear that you on the left would consistently fail the test- hint: government handouts isn’t one of the answers…

    So again, fuck you. No one in this country has any reason to trust anything you on the left says. You’re liars, consistently and continuously.

  • 102. an800lbgorilla  |  May 3, 2010 at 6:04 am

    Rabbit, good to see you back…

  • 103. Tex Taylor  |  May 3, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Compare and contrast to Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rev. Al Sharpton, and Rev. Jesse Jackson

    Five Immutable Truths of the late, great Rev. Adrian Rogers (from 1984)

    1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

    2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

    3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

    4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

    5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

  • 104. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 3, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Boy, how about all of those peaceful protests against AZ this weekend.

    Had that level of violence gone on at a Tea Party rally, we’d be reading a new post here today.

  • 105. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 3, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Here is some research for the post that Rutherford is certainly busy writing as we speak.

    First, a couple of pictures for the article…

    This one advocates anarchy and violence against law enforcement, complete with the anarchists symbol.

    This one is advocating revolution as part of reconquista, as does this one. (Yeah, we feel your outrage, Curator. But why aren’t we reading it?)

    But enough of visuals. Let’s give Rutherford some quotable material.

    Here is a story on a violent rally in Santa Cruz, CA.

    A May Day rally in Santa Cruz erupted into chaos Saturday night when about 200 protesters, some with torches, stormed the city’s main street. Some smashed windows and spray-painted anarchist graffiti, police said.

    Here is a story about people being attacked at a “mostly peaceful” rally in San Francisco.

    LISA AMIN GULEZIAN, REPORTER: Allan, for the most part the event was peaceful, but just about an hour ago, three people were attacked and two others were arrested. The people who were assaulted were part of the Minutemen demonstration in favor of Arizona’s new immigration law.

    They said a large group of immigrants’ rights supporters followed them to the BART station on Market Street and started punching and kicking them, and calling them names.

    And here is some info on violence at a Manhattan protest.

    About an hour later we were heading to a concert on the NYU campus, and started walking down Broadway toward Astor Place. We started hearing lots of police sirens all at once, and then looked straight ahead. There were young guys with baseball bats and Che signs pinned to their backpacks running down the street smashing store windows, all on the west side of Broadway. We stopped dead on a corner, because there were police cars coming from so many different directions the street lights were rendered meaningless. As soon as we stopped, about 6 NYPD units pulled up to our exact corner and the cops jumped out and tackled two of the vandals literally TWO FEET in front of me. Some other officers arrived, jumped out of their cars, and started a crazy foot pursuit of another guy who started running in zig-zags down the middle of Broadway. They tackled him as well, in the middle of the freakin’ street, as cars kept almost hitting everyone involved. It happened incredibly quickly. There were tons of eyewitnesses, and I even saw a few people videotaping, but of course I can’t find mention of this incident anywhere online or in the media….

    You’re welcome.

  • 106. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 3, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Regarding the comment I just wrote that is awaiting moderation…

    It just occurred to me that the violent protest in Manhattan was on the same night that someone tried to set off a car bomb just a few blocks away in Times Square. A car bomb that was obviously thrown together by someone who didn’t know what they were doing, to the extent that their fertilizer was non-explosive.

    Is there a connection to the May Day violence; who knows?

    But you can damn well be sure that if it were a Tea Party protest going on in Manhattan at the same time, we’d be hearing speculation about the incident that wasn’t limited to Comedy Central.

  • 107. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 3, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    As I was saying….

    “If I had to guess, twenty five cents, this would be exactly that,” Bloomberg said. “Homegrown maybe a mentally deranged person or someone with a political agenda that doesn’t like the health care bill or something. It could be anything.”

    Words of wisdom by the mayor of New York.

    Nevermind that the former owner of the vehicle claims he sold it 3 weeks ago to a man he describes as looking “Arabic or Latino,” and there just happened to be a violent May Day rally going on blocks away that same day.

  • 108. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 3, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Democratic party strategist Bob Beckel weighs in:

    I think it could be a right-wing militiaman involved in this. I mean, you never know.

  • 109. Rutherford  |  May 3, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    We don’t even join bowling leagues.

    That’s why I’ve missed Rabbit. Yeah dude, you are a romantic.

    Of course, you are right to some degree. The Internet which was supposed to democratize speech and opinion and bring the world closer together has created a bunch of people (me included) who disguise our real names and rant without any real fear of being held to account for our opinions.

    I may have said this before, but I chose a pen name very deliberately. There are some real nutjobs out there and I have more to protect than just me. I have a family that bears my real last name. I wanted to be able to write with total honesty and not fear any repercussions. Now, it just so happens that as time has gone on, I’ve become less obsessed with this secrecy and the truth is a little research starting on this very site, would reveal to anyone interested who I really am.

    But I digress. Rabbit is right about the lack of face-to-face. Yet even some of the face-to-face is covered in cowardice. Last year I posted a picture of a TPM member with a nasty sign. I was contacted via email and threatened with legal action if I did not take it down. I should have called his bluff but I got spooked and complied. But here is the interesting fact …. assuming the email was legit, dude was SO proud of his behavior that he wanted the evidence of it removed from my site. A f*cking coward. And I told him so when I responded to him (under my pseudonym’s email account :lol: )

  • 110. Rutherford  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Rabbit, Obama may have gotten some slack on “speed to action” but Bill Maher (ok, maybe that’s not the “media”) tore Obama a new one last Friday night for giving a thumbs up to off shore drilling in the first place.

    I don’t know where to go on this oil thing. Every energy source seems to carry risk. Nuclear facilities leak radiation and can kill thousands. Coal mines explode. Oil rigs get f*cked up and even if you just import the stuff, the tankers can get f*cked up. Hell, I just heard today that wind turbines kill birds.

    I’m lost on this one.

  • 111. Rutherford  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:06 am

    He was yucking it up at a dinner last night while …

    Huck, sorry dude, that was just plain dumb. The White House Correspondents Dinner is supposed to be canceled because all is not right in the world? I guess you’re pissed everyone showed up at the Kentucky Derby too? Should have all been home in a silent vigiil for the oil rig.

    C’mon..

  • 112. Rutherford  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:12 am

    A 6th flooding death in Tenn. as Obama heads to the Chocolate City for an oil spill that has killed nobody.

    You’re on a roll tonight. First I resent the racist implication that Obama prioritized blacks over rednecks … your insinuation, not my opinion.

    Second, make up your f*cking mind. Either Obama needs to be excoriated for not acting on the oil disaster or he is supposed to act on it. You can’t have it both ways.

    Third, I’m sure that the survivors of the 11 people who were killed in the oil rig explosion will be comforted by your assessment that “no one was killed”. (By the count you gave, more people killed in the oil incident than in the Tennessee floods.)

  • 113. Rutherford  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:16 am

    But I think there is more to this story than is being reported. Like how it happened.

    Oh goodness gracious …. please Tex don’t tell me you’re going all Limbaugh on us?

    OK … truth … sabotage has crossed my mind before the Rushster opened his big mouth. It didn’t occur to me to blame tree-huggers for it.

    I haven’t gotten through all the comments so maybe you clarify your position later on. I just hope you’re not jumping to an anti-liberal conclusion. :-) (You know I’d never do that in reverse.)

  • 114. Rutherford  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:21 am

    Tex, I just drove by a bridge reconstruction site yesterday with a sign prominently displayed that the bridge fix was stimulus financed.

    This University dude so upset about professorial salaries doesn’t erase what I saw with my own eyes yesterday.

  • 115. Rutherford  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:31 am

    Huck, as I just wrote over at Alfie’s place, anyone who draws conclusions on the origin of the car bomb when only 5% of the evidence is in, is just being a dumb-ass. I learned this lesson the hard way last year when I got in a huff over the census worker who died in Kentucky. When it turned out to be a suicide, I had a hot fried egg on my face and damn did it burn.

    Let’s see what develops here before we go off the deep end. One thing is for sure. There are enough pissed off parties around lately to make every event like this look like an Agatha Christie novel. The Times Square car bomb, could be a pissed off liberal (over AZ or something else), a pissed off conservative, a pissed off Muslim, or just a run of the mill looney tune.

    Lots of anger to go around lately huh? Kinda scary if you ask me.

  • 116. Rutherford  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:48 am

    I just posted this cartoon to BiW’s place. Something to think about:

    http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/S/P/3/Show-Me-Your-Papers.jpg

  • 117. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Rutherford,

    Oh goodness gracious …. please Tex don’t tell me you’re going all Limbaugh on us?

    I don’t know. What’s all Limbaugh on us supposed to mean? I don’t mean eco wackos, if that is what you are insinuating. They’re too stupid to pull something like this off. Besides, it 75 miles out to sea.

    No, I want serious background checks on everybody that was working that rig. I’m no conspirator, but there are so many safeguards that didn’t work and should have, I don’t think I’m pushing the envelope to have some suspicions of sabotage.

    I know the chances small, but I don’t feel unreasonable to have some serious request for legwork done by authorities to rule it out.

    You find that unreasonable?

    P.S. – I’ll bet not a dime out of a dollar went to improving infrastructure concerning the public slush fund. If you can prove me wrong, I’ll apologize.

  • 118. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 4, 2010 at 1:06 am

    “First I resent the racist implication that Obama prioritized blacks over rednecks … your insinuation, not my opinion.”

    Sorry, but Kanye West wasn’t weighing in on the subject in a timely manner, so I spoke for him.

    “Second, make up your f*cking mind. Either Obama needs to be excoriated for not acting on the oil disaster or he is supposed to act on it. You can’t have it both ways.”

    I mentioned 3 different things going on while Obama was doing his stand-up comedy.

    “Third, I’m sure that the survivors of the 11 people who were killed in the oil rig explosion will be comforted by your assessment that “no one was killed”. ”

    My mistake. I did not realize anyone was killed. Did Obama wait so long to comment to help their families with their greiving?

    “Lots of anger to go around lately huh? Kinda scary if you ask me.”

    Some of us have been feeling the anger for years. It stings at first, but you’ll get used to it.

  • 119. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 6:56 am

    Huck,

    “First I resent the racist implication that Obama prioritized blacks over rednecks … your insinuation, not my opinion.”

    Sorry, but Kanye West wasn’t weighing in on the subject in a timely manner, so I spoke for him.

    Oh, that is such a spectacularly good point. Where are the Hollywood stars? Where’s Reba McIntire or somebody pointing out that Obama hates fishermen and guys dredging for shrimp? Where’s Mayor Ray Nagin to criticize the slow response? Where’s Sean Penn paddling a leaky row boat to lay out a boom?

    Man, most of the Left are a bunch of phonies.

    If there is one good thing that has come of Obama being President, it’s that George Bush is really starting to be vindicated – especially being that Obama, for all intents and purposes, has followed Bush’s lead in the two wars. Only Bush was far more successful.

    But I’m willing to cut Rutherford a wee bit of slack on this one. He wasn’t near as shrill as some of his compatriots like Chenzhen, who bailed on Rutherford about the time it came time to take the heat.

  • 120. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 8:29 am

    From Instapundit: (more in the name of the new regime’s political correctness run amuck ) concerning whatever the new name for terrorists is:

    [“The man, Faisal Shahzad, 30, was taken into custody at Kennedy Airport on board an Emirates flight to Dubai, according to the airline and an early-morning statement Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. delivered at the Justice Department in Washington.”]

    “As per Mayor Bloomberg’s prediction, I am just glad they caught Mr. Shazad before he flew back to Pakistan, so we can all learn about the specifics of his policy differences on the healthcare bill. In fact, as we have been giving unsuccessful terrorist names (like the She Bomber, Undiebomber, etc. ) recently, I propose we call Mr. Shazad the Healthcare Policy Bomber. Bravo Mayor! You hit it right on the head!”

    While we chastise Rev. Franklin Graham for speaking truth, let us remember to talk softly and nicely about those who would kill us. :roll:

  • 121. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 8:48 am

    Another example of political correctness run amuck trying to recapture the Jewish vote after the current regime has crapped on Israel.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0510/White_House_drops_Christian_dating_for_Jewish_proclamation.html?showall

    This kind of stuff is really personally offensive, as much for its blatant phoniness, as it is for spitting at our traditions. Even Jefferson, the man the godless in American always invoke, ended his writings with “The Year of Our Lord.”

  • 122. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    Hey Rutherford, my pal. I know a few assholes friends from another site more my locale who like to edit and censor responses, so I challenged them to come to your blog and witness a lib with the guts to allow responses to remain as submitted.

    Hope you don’t mind. They’re even Lib Rutherford! About a 1/10 as smart as you, but far more of the rank propaganda. You’ll love them! One of them not bad, the other a border line moron. Figure we’ve been teaming up on you enough.

    If that’s a problem, mea culpa and I’ll move them to Chen’s.

  • 123. graychin  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    That would be me. I wouldn’t call “Tex” my friend exactly, just someone who would rather namecall at liberals than discuss policy. (I see he caught himself in the first line of his comment. – Maybe he can be housebroken after all.)

    Tex was just whining over at my blog (thegreatspot.wordpress.com) about using the double-entendre “teabagger” to refer to those fine folks who wear tea bags dangling from their hats. I’m glad to see that you folks here don’t have such delicate sensibilities.

    Actually Tex (aka “Bitter Clinger”), a blog with 122 comments on the first article I read sounds too much like a TW food fight for my taste. But I’ll give it a shot.

    Moderated, eh? Too bad.

  • 124. Rutherford  |  May 4, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    Welcome to the blog Gray. Only the first comment of a new visitor is moderated. Now that you’re in, you’re in so long as you don’t go changing handles or IP addresses on me. :-)

    Sorry for my ignorance but what is a TW food fight? Oh and “you folks” would be me and maybe two other people. Most of the regulars here hate everything I stand for. Hope you feel right at home. ;-)

    Tex, how could you re-route these people to Chen’s when it is a ghost town? Did Chen start a new blog?

  • 125. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Good Graychin. You made it. I’m so glad you took the invite.

    Graychin considers himself an intellect, far above any teabagger, winger, religious nut, etc… I’ll let you guys be the judge as you proceed. This is about as rank a propagandist as I’ve found on the net, and I fully expect Graychin to last possibly a week when worked over once or twice.

    He’ll leave mad with a comment such as “food fight”, “ad hominem”, “wingers”, or something along those lines. At least that’s my bet.

    Now you Conservatives be careful with Graychin as he has profound sensitivies. He’s already left one board in a huff and started his own, where he edits, modifies, deletes, and other assorted “gifts” to those his sensitivities.

    So everyone be respectful. :smile:

    Graychin is fond of terms like teabagger, Faux News, is a huge fan of MSNBC (you’ll love him Rutherford), perceives himself to be a gentlemen in a room of loons everywhere he goes.

    So, I thought to myself, hey. Graychin perceives himself the intellectual policy wonk. Let’s go at it where assumptions aren’t measured.

  • 126. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    R.

    Tex, how could you re-route these people to Chen’s when it is a ghost town? Did Chen start a new blog?

    Nah, I was just looking for a place that Graychin doesn’t control. I knew Chen wouldn’t mind, but I thought you might like some company. You’ll love Graychin and I would like to observer the “intellect” out of his comfort zone. You and Wally will be in heaven.

  • 127. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    I’ll be back tonight.

  • 128. Curator  |  May 4, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    My chin turned gray years ago.

  • 129. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 4, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    This timeline should give everyone a warm, fuzzy feeling inside.

    Oct . 7, 2009

    Taliban say they’re no threat to other countries

    The Taliban insistence that it would pose no threat to other countries appeared aimed at countering suspicions that the Islamist movement would support al-Qaida’s global jihad if they returned to power.

    October 08, 2009

    Official: Obama to Send Enough Troops to Keep Al Qaeda at Bay

    WASHINGTON — President Obama is inclined to send only as many more U.S. troops to Afghanistan as are needed to keep Al Qaeda at bay, a senior administration official said.

    The official, in an interview with The Associated Press, also added that the president is prepared to accept some Taliban involvement in Afghanistan’s political future, reiterating what Obama said in March.
    ….
    Members of the president’s national security team argued that the Taliban in Afghanistan do not pose a direct threat to the U.S., officials told The New York Times. It was unclear if everyone in the war council accepted the premise.

    May 2, 2010

    Pakistani Taliban claim failed New York bomb attack

    “The Pakistani Taliban announces its responsibility for the New York attack in revenge for the two leaders al-Baghdadi and al-Muhajir and Muslim martyrs,” said a statement on a website commonly used by Islamists.

    Al Qaeda’s Iraq leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri — also known as Abu Hamza al-Muhajir — and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, the purported head of its local affiliate, the Islamic State of Iraq, were killed last month.

    May 4, 2010

    Pakistani American man under arrest for NYC car bomb attempt

    A Pakistani American man is under arrest trying to set off a car bomb in Times Square.

    Authorities say Faisal Shahzad drove an SUV loaded with explosives into Times Square Saturday night, with the intent to kill Americans.

    The Pakistani born US citizen was arrested Monday night while trying to leave the country. As the plane he was on for Dubai pulled away from the gate at Kennedy Airport, police ordered the plan back and took Shahzad into custody.

    May 4, 2010

    UPDATE 5-Pakistan makes arrests connected to NYC bomb attempt

    ISLAMABAD, May 4 (Reuters) – Pakistani police arrested several people on Tuesday in connection with the failed Times Square car bomb attack in New York, security sources said.

    “We have picked up a few family members” related to Faisal Shahzad, the chief suspect in the attempted attack, a security official in Karachi said. A friend of Shahzad was also arrested.

    Let’s recap.

    Last fall, the Taliban tried to convince us all that they were not a threat to other countries.

    Barack Obama agreed with them, forming a policy that potentially included them in a post-war Afghanistan.

    Last weekend someone left a car bomb in Times Square that failed to go off. Taliban members in Pakistan claim responsibility before anyone is arrested.

    A person from Pakistan is arrested in US. Members of his family arrested in Pakistan.

    The Taliban told Barack Obama that they were not a threat to the US, and the man who is charged with keeping us all safe believed them.

    Remember that in Nov. 2012.

  • 130. dead rabbit  |  May 4, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Cool.

    We have another person who snickers at the word “tea-bagger”.

    When liberals invoke that image, I always think of some decadent and powdered aristocrats giggling mischievously in Versailles completely oblivious that the Bastille is about to be torn the fuck down .

    Hey Greychin……Here’s some new homoerotic talk that will be a nice change of pace from the normal lib metaphors about being face planted by a leathery sack.

    Nah…It doesn’t matter that its old shtick.

    The taint. What a weird part of one’s body! It taint my balls but it taint my ass!

    drum roll!!!!

    Heyooooooo!

  • 131. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Rabbit,

    I liked BiW’s response. Next time I’m called “teabagger”, I’m going to ask the accuser how my sack tastes. Dumbasses from the Left still haven’t figured out who that makes the teabaggee.

    Graychin makes Curator look sane. At least Curator asked some difficult questions. Graychin and some of his toadies (and a few of them are complete idiots and I don’t mean in just opinion; real idiots), if they’re not censoring your answers are propagandists out of the Goebbels mode.

    Hell, they’ve got one post over there actually making sport of the drilling rig burning, killing eleven, as if somehow this will be favorable to Obama and their agenda. I kid you not. This is how frickin’ wicked these assholes are and I invited them to a board where I can debate without modification or deletion.

    And I do thank Mr. Lawson for that. Seriously….Rutherford. I’m indebted.

  • 132. Curator  |  May 4, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    We have another person who snickers at the word “tea-bagger”.

    From the people who hang tea bags from the brims of their hats. *snicker*

    Lets remember this is the “movement” that originally embraced the “Teabagger” label.

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/05/04/todays-manufactured-outrage/

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • 133. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Curator,

    I’m having trouble finding the humor. Obama calls a collective group “teabaggers” and that’s worth a yuck yuck? It’s not the Tea Party crowd looking classless.

    Dick, prick and queer used to be a common word without sexual connotation too. So since some 80 year old grandmother doesn’t understand slang, one that refers to one queer dipping the scrotum in another’s mouth, therefore it becomes acceptable for the supposed leader of the free world to use this in a quote/book?

    I’d be real careful about opening that can of worms by continuing to use a word you’ve been asked not to use – especially by Obama. There’s a lot of words now considered taboo that we can quickly restore to normal jargon, a few racial epithets added for effect if it comes to that.

    Sure you want to continue to play crass?

  • 134. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Here Curator – you should read this. It will tax your brain how to make excuse and put a positive spin for your side.

    Truth be known, it would appear your side is not only not looking too good, but actually desperate.

    http://www.examiner.com/x-45728-Boston-Tea-Party-Examiner~y2010m5d4-A-tale-of-two-groups

  • 135. Curator  |  May 4, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    I’m simply calling you and your ilk what you named yourselves from the start. You have a problem with your name? I leave sexual connotation out of it and will call a teabagger a teabagger.

    You don’t like it… blame yourself.

  • 136. Tex Taylor  |  May 4, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Curator,

    I’m simply calling you and your ilk what you named yourselves from the start.

    Looks like your ilk is shared by your Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama, who also finds it clever enough to use in quote.

    Now I expect that from losers like you and your idiot son, but I was hoping the President could do better. I held little hope as he has shown such little positive impact, and in fact, has so polarized the country, there won’t be any reconciliation back without blood shed.

    I’m no “teabagger”, but if I do decide to prop my nuts over a broken body and do a little dipping, you’d be near the top of my list as Platoon Queen, being no doubt in my mind you’ve had vast experience at queer submission while serving.

    One never knows if the Taliban still prefer goats or inbred sons. Sooeeyyyy!

  • 137. Alfie  |  May 4, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    dishonest and dumb

  • 138. Curator  |  May 4, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Great, bring my son into this.

    I’ll be sure to tell him to spread the word that shit-for-brains, never served in uniform GOPher teabaggers, think he and his 58 other UH-60 Pave Hawk squadron mates who deployed to Bagram AB three weeks ago, are nothing but bitches for Taliban goat fuckers. I’m sure that will instill pride in their hearts that some Americans think so highly of their service.

    My nephew just joined the Army a month ago so there is another of my inbred military family you can poke fun at. Maybe you can spout of some more like you did last time about our troops getting their asses kicked.

    You are such a good American hater Tex … I don’t know what our country would do without you.

  • 139. Rutherford  |  May 5, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Another example of political correctness run amuck trying to recapture the Jewish vote after the current regime has crapped on Israel.

    Careful Tex. You wouldn’t want Elric to label you an anti-Semite now would you. ;-)

  • 140. Rutherford  |  May 5, 2010 at 12:24 am

    Huck, I’m not sure why you’re so filled with Obama-hate lately. Obama does not dictate Afghanistan policy. Karzai has not rejected the Taliban and on the contrary has “threatened” to join them in a recent huff.

    I know you’d like to say the explosive SUV was bought by Obama. Fortunately he had a pretty good alibi that night. :roll:

  • 141. Rutherford  |  May 5, 2010 at 12:29 am

    And I do thank Mr. Lawson for that. Seriously….Rutherford. I’m indebted.

    Well, on the one hand, you’re welcome. On the other hand all your trash talk may have already scared Graychin away. I’ve checked my moderation and spam filter and he has not returned since his first and only comment.

    I’m looking forward to seeing what he has to say.

  • 142. Tex Taylor  |  May 5, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Curator,

    You don’t like it… blame yourself. From now on, every time you bring up the word teabagger, the subject of your inbred kin will again be broached. And since you invoked the word tea bagger again, your idiot son isn’t a goatfucker – he’s the goat getting fucked.

    That’s for Gorilla and his wife you insulted asshole.

  • 143. Rutherford  |  May 5, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Alfie you get points for brevity but not accuracy. I’ll give you an equally brief reply:

    Dishonest? No
    Dumb? Yes :-)

  • 144. Rutherford  |  May 5, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Tex, I actually am a bit disappointed that G didn’t answer my more polite version of Curator’s question. As I pointed out when I asked the question, if G’s wife became a citizen by virtue of marriage (no shame in that at all) then she did not go through the hassles that you described for other immigrants. I would have liked G to shed more light on it.

    Of course, it is his personal business … so be it.

  • 145. Hucking Fypocrites  |  May 5, 2010 at 12:49 am

    “Obama does not dictate Afghanistan policy.”

    Rutherford, is there something about the concept of a quote that you don’t understand? I didn’t pull that stuff out of my ass. Read this quote again, and then tell me what Obama does and doesn’t do in Afghanistan.

    “The official, in an interview with The Associated Press, also added that the president is prepared to accept some Taliban involvement in Afghanistan’s political future, reiterating what Obama said in March.”

    As for the rest, I don’t know how much more clear I can make it for you. Read the quotes.

    “The Taliban insistence that it would pose no threat to other countries…”

    “Members of the president’s national security team argued that the Taliban in Afghanistan do not pose a direct threat to the U.S….”

    ““The Pakistani Taliban announces its responsibility for the New York attack….”

    Looks pretty clear to me. Barack Obama is wrong. The Taliban is a threat to the US. Do their bombs actually have to explode for you to believe it?

    And yes, Virginia…there is a Taliban/al Qaeda connection. Lest you forget why we went into Afghanistan in the first place.

  • 146. Rutherford  |  May 5, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Huck, Obama is hardly the first one to say that al Qaeda and the Taliban should not be confused/conflated. Many so called experts on the subject have said as much.

    The bottom line is that the Taliban exhibits terrorist behavior within their own countries (acid in young girl’s faces, etc.). So it should never have been a stretch to think they could strike outside of Afghanistan/Pakistan.

    My guess is that any embrace of the Taliban by Obama is an attempt to deal with the lesser of two evils. Sometimes there are no good choices.

  • 147. Tex Taylor  |  May 5, 2010 at 1:48 am

    Graychin’s a blowhard and I knew that.

    If Graychin comes back, he comes back. I was looking forward to him not having his little pack of sycophants glorifying his every word and watching him stand up to multiple scrutiny. He’s used to boards dominated by atheists, Marxists, socialists, communists, lackeys, and other lesser progressives, generally mixed with a couple of idiot lapdogs to stroke the ego.

    I dared him to post some place not moderated and baited him here, so he had to make some effort to save face. He knew he was being baited and had no other choice but to appear if he wasn’t going to delete my challenge. Graychin will be reading this to be sure, so he might appear again because his reputation to his toadies is “scholar” and intellect. They follow his lead and Graychin has a reputation to sustain.

    But Graychin doesn’t venture past the echo chamber much. If two were to slam him simultaneously, which is going to happen here, I predict he will leave in a huff and fold. Graychin made his required token appearance, thinking he called my bluff. Graychin will flee under the guise of uncivil behavior – never noting his own continual, insidious attacks on boards where he has complete advantage.

    Graychin’s game is this. He stirs the pot and gets his sycophants to cover who provide him continual adulation – the insecurity requires constant stroking. He then singles out the least of the opposition and will debate them, only making passing recognition of the more capable challengers. Graychin is more the tacit bully. But when the wolves begin to show up, Graychin feigns insult, and claims someone of his profound capability and scholarly manner will not be bothered with bad manners. Like the advertisement on his own board – a nauseating double standard and complete sham.

    I’ve debated with Graychin before. The minute you start shoving fact and opinion his way that don’t cohabitate with his own bias, Graychin will first resort back to cognitive dissonance complete with link from leftydom, followed by accusations of ad hominem – standard lib fare. He hasn’t changed since the first time I met him.

    Graychin’s a narcissist, propagandist and solipsistic soul seeker – a variable smorgasbord of cut and paste from Salon, The Nation, KKKos, MSNBC, and PuffHo and anything else he can dredge up as support. He’s actually pretty effective with this technique.

    Graychin shares one thing with you though, Rutherford. He’s got some expertise in certain fields and can be a very worthy challenger. If he had your balls, Graychin could be an asset to offset the continual bombardment you receive here. :smile:

  • 148. Curator  |  May 5, 2010 at 7:33 am

    That’s for Gorilla and his wife you insulted asshole.

    By asking if his wife is from Iraq?

    But, I can see how you would take that as an insult.

  • 149. Tex Taylor  |  May 5, 2010 at 9:35 am

    Curator,

    For once in your life, act like a man – you didn’t simply ask if Gorilla if his wife from Iraq. You mocked that she might be from Iraq – like he’d brought home some paid for Russian bride.

    The only bigot I’ve read here is you…

  • 150. graychin  |  May 5, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Just in case any doubt remains about how the term “teabagger” got applied to the tea party movement:

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/05/04/todays-manufactured-outrage/

    It’s nice to see that “conservatives” have discovered political correctness.

  • 151. Tex Taylor  |  May 5, 2010 at 10:25 am

    Graychin, meet Wally. You guys parrot the same words, make the same rounds, blab about the same things, “borrow” from the same sites to attempt at something deep and intellectual. Never an original thought.

    See #132.

    Rutherford, see what I mean about barking parrots? They travel the same path, seldom adding anything new to the conversation.

  • 152. Rutherford  |  May 5, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    Graychin, you’ll probably need a score card to keep track of some of this stuff.

    “Wally” is Tex’s nickname for Curator. It comes from the office dweeb in the Dilbert cartoons. It bothers old Tex that Curator is not the usual limp liberal who can’t dish it out. Curator dishes as well as he gets it. One of the RL Hall of Famers here. :-)

    Of course, I can’t play Tex cheap either. He is in my Hall of Infamy. :evil: :-)

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